It gets even creepier. One of the quest items from the Island Expeditions in BfA describes a vision. In that vision, you're drawn to a pool of black water. When you look down, you see the black goat staring back at you. Suddenly, you're the one trapped in the pool, while the goat is looking from outside. This means Y'shaarj is in the Void, staring into the mortal plain and waiting to make return. But it also means, to quote Bran Bronzebeard in the Ulduar trailer: "It's gonna come after us, and we're gonna be the prisoners".
Pisses me off to no end that the creature whose known for having "7 heads with 7 sets of eyes, 7 mouths that begat 7 despairs with its 7 breaths" and each head formed one of the prime 7 sha....has only 1 head in all its artwork Ffs blizz
that some bible shit. wouldn't wont to piss off anyone and cut into their precious money. (even tho it also has Lovecraft themes. 7 heads in revelations, 7 deadly sins. blah blah)
@@briankeys5941 oh ya cause the Angels isnt to much The 7 thing is taken directly from the game No, it was likelybthat the person who did the artwork...didnt know
Ever stopped and thought about how many of these 'old gods' there has to be throughout this universe? They were randomly thrown out into space, and FOUR of them reached the same planet? Either it's a tiny, tiny, TINY universe, or there has to be billions, if not trillions of them. The vast, vast majority still hurtling through space.
maybe there is a correlation or mechanism between the magical powers eminating from a world and the inherent pull it has to attract void powers even from great distances like the outer reaches of the universe where the void lords reside. Its established that the titans originally found Azeroth because they sensed the immense arcane powers from across the cosmos, and maybe if old gods have some small ability to nudge their trajectory just a little bit as they are shot through space it would explain why 4 managed to land on Azeroth. Either way, I hope they make sure to add a chapter on celestial Newtonian arcane mechanics in the next Chronicles. How much spacetime mana goes into each unit of acceleration times mass? This is low fantasy folks! very mathematically rigorous and not retconned at all.
It was mentioned somewhere that Sargeras and the burning legion had wiped out the majority of planets out there so id imagine that they killed a lot of them but probably not all of them.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and in strange aeons, even Death may die." ~ H.P. Lovecraft, creator of the Cthulhu Mythos, inspiration for the Old Gods
@@briankeys5941 i agree with ur statement, but the old gods themselves aren't a ripoff. If blizz just added a recolored Cthulhu instead of making 4 individual old gods and minions with a sht ton of lore then yea it'd be a ripoff, but they created their own ideas off of Lovecraft's base work. Which is inspiration. Sadly the BfA/Ny'alotha end cinematic WAS just a ripoff of the Lord of the Rings/return of the king ending where all of Sauron's stuff disintegrates after he dies with the ring. THAT was a ripoff on blizz's part. The sheer lack of creativity and it's disgusting. Inspiration is fine if you are original enough with your creations to barely see where you got the idea from. Just redoing a movie climax scene as your end-of-expansion cinematic is total bullshit.
I personally believe N'Zoth is still alive and my reason for this is there is still a very large piece of him that has been left alone this whole time. And it just so happens to have a temple/shrine above it that the Tidesages use.
it's called Mist of Pandaria, you know the one where you fking laugh because it has fking Pandarens as a race even though the Horde and Alliance have a fucking Cow, Furry and Space Goat as a race. and now you have a fking another furry trash as a playable race.
ya know, garrosh really did pandaria a solid in the long run. Absorbing the last of Y'Shaarj and cleansing its plight from the land putting it into his own visage. he may have only done it for the power but it sure did help pandaria move forward and past the sha
Could we maybe get a series of videos on the individual aspects? We’ve always got videos from creators on the aspects as a whole, but I want to know the finer details behind what happened to them before and after they became aspects. We already know the whole galakgrond business but there is always more to know
3:48 Just realized that this shot of Wrathion is nearly identical to the shot of Anduin emerging from the cloud of darkness to stab the Archon in the Chains of Domination trailer.
As a lore-nerd, myself, I'm super disappointed with how they handled the Old Gods.. They had been built up with stories and hints for so long, and then just kind of rushed through and swept under the rug.. I really needed a Black Empire expansion between BFA and SL
Bro elune is heavy in this xpac. And Yshaarj is chillin on the moon, with or in elune. Who Tyrande is channeling rn. Plus azshara, sargaras, wrathion, illidan are creating a new pantheon as we speak.
It's a case of if its not my idea I don't want it in the story. Blizzard has been doing that a lot recently. Before it felt like we were champions. One of the few that could do anything. And now nothing just another foot soldier. Doesn't feel special anymore. Everything that was years build in the making gone or not important anymore
When Aman'Thul plucked Y'Shaarj from Azeroth, its remains were brought to a titan facility on the moon and reshaped into Elune, a prototype for the Naaru. The aqir were flesh-shaped into Zandalari, but the descendants of the mantid were naturally drawn toward their god on the moon and the wound that was left behind when it was torn from the world. The symbol of the Darkmoon Faire is Y'Shaarj. Dark Moon. When Ysera died, Elune grew sha tentacles and plucked out her soul. Most sha are pure black with white around the edges, like an eclipse. Mantid and night elves are both nocturnal forest dwelling races centered around giant trees, they both have matriarchal societies, and they both hybernate for extended periods of time. The Night Warrior! Poq'yith mazzka awan ki uhnish'philfgsh. The crooked serpent with no eyes is watching from the endless sky. Crooked: (synonyms)twisted, warped, deformed, disfigured Serpent: Y'Shaarj No eyes: its seven eyes were plucked out and became the seven prime sha Is watching: present tense, as in is still alive From an endless sky: on the moon I can keep going if anyone would like me to. I can write pages. Blizzard has been heavily hinting at it since at least vanilla.
Love your lore videos. My only exposure to WoW is from hearthstone and thanks to your videos i know a lot about the game lore without even playing it once
Nobbel, I think you do one of the best jobs in bringing the Warcraft Universe to life! I admit, I am one of the players who plowed through quests and not until the last expansion did I pay more attention. however, I think Blizzard could do a better job at bringing the lore to life in game then they do now! If I am wrong with this, someone can tell me. Peace!
I just want an expansion where the Titans return to Azeroth and see all the damage that's happened to it since they last saw it and be like "Yeah, we need to wipe out all the races and start over." I really just want them to freak out because there's a giant sword sticking out of the face of the planet.
the loregod returns, i love the videos and i am literally sad every time i see a video that contains spoilers for my current PoV in WoW x.x so happy to hear your delicious voice once more!!
Why is it that Garrosh saying he 'answers to no one' hits so much harder than Sylvanas saying she 'will never serve'? I think the earliest issue that Shadowlands had is that they opted out of utilizing the Scourge directly in the introduction of the covenants. What role did the San'layn have in Denathrius' plan? Why is scourge death magic different from Maldraxxi fleshcrafting? I think that by trying to introduce the covenants in a more sudden manner, they ended up hiding those plotlines behind macguffins no one cared about, which in turn painted peoples opinion of the story before any of it was discussed
it's weird but some of the names used in wow are some names I wanna name my kids with... can you imagine in class... "Is there a Y'Shaarj here..." LMAO
So expanding our in game knowledge is bad? Hell, in the real world we are always learning, but I guess in game we should remain in the dark ages and never expand our minds.
Yknow.... It's kind of wild that *FOUR* of the old gods landed on azeroth. Cosmos is huge, chances of even one landing are astronomical, and it happened four times? Unlucky
The way he pronounces his Rs still make me want to kill myself, however his videos are just too good of quality, I still keep comming back and liking the video watching them from start to finish
I...just realized that the way Anduin stabs the Archon is the same or a call back to how Wrathion stabs N'zoth. Hmm call back to the prior expansion for some reason or Blizzard really likes that emerge from the smoke and stab something bigger than yourself stunt
Its all cool and all... but i expected way more from Nzod. Its a shame how it all ended really... I get it.. C thun was vanilla, they didn't know what they were doing. Now its 2020... and yet we still get this meh efford.
i refuse to accept the old gods are just gone from azeroth, so much build up for a character we interacted with once, stupid sexy wrathion, to shoot a laser beam and everything is back to normal after 5 expacs of hype to this moment
Blizz writing in a nutshell. N'zoth was meant to be this incredibly secretive and unknown danger teased over the years with clues pointing to him and his kingdom under the sea - considered the weakest physically but also the strongest due to his planning abilities (similar to Yogg'Saron)... We had all this excitement going into it and they just patched him in and ended it all. Talk about anti-climax... Power of friendship beam = too strong for an old god. Sigh... For me, once they retconned how strong the old gods actually were I lost my respect. They had this amazing idea of how strong these old gods were and what an achievement it was to take them out then all of a sudden "No, actually they weren't really THAAAAT Strong". Once they said even Sargaras would beg for the mercy of death when confronted by them - now its like he'd rip them a new asshole. Uggh
@@jcmahrt5100 - If I remember correctly, part of the warrior class hall story is uniting some titan keepers with Odyn in the Halls of Valor, and this quest includes a trip into Ulduar where Yogg-Saron still has some small influence and can summon a few Faceless to attack.
maybe not lazy, i have whitnessed some things where the writers of games etc "said in interviews" "oh yeah char X is dead dead dont worry" just to later reveal they planned their return, and the "false" outing as "dead dead" was just to build up that unexpected turn thing since we as the players "already killed them" . i mean Andrew Hussie with Homestuck, Scott Cawthon with Fnaf and another smaller franchise i looked at that i dont remember the name of rn bc im bad with names and numbers, did verry verry similar things just to keep their fans on their toes. sadly the Homestuck took a drastic BS turn when fanfiction writers literally replaced the original author, in fnaf scott literally hid a secret noone figured out so he patched it away becouse he wasnt glad with the presentation any longer, we still dont know what it was. i mean something like that is what i would deffo do, tho i would do it a bit more sneaky then blizz.
The Paragons were against their old queen because to succumb to the Sha of Fear and fall victim to its influence is to show weakness. More than anything, even more than their loyalty to the Old Gods, the Mantid hate the weak.
Hey Nobbel, I know you’ve busy with lore and speculation of Shadowlands but you ever thought of doing a lore of Hamuul Runetotem? For becoming a hero in the next hearthstone expansion.
Ehh.. they are pretty different, Sargeras wasent 'corrupted', he just wields the power of Fel energy. He is just extremely stubborn, extreme and stupid.
@@iHaveGrudgeAgainstUT - Let's hope they don't try to spin it so he was actually corrupted by our "unseen guests" the dreadlords... Shadowlands seems to be taking that story in some uncomfortable directions.
@@mokarokas-2138 I think its clear that Sagaras was 'MANIPULATED' and not corrupted. Its like making friends with doggey bankers who give you exagg erated informations and cause you to make decisions beneficial to their agenda
@@JamailvanWestering why not? People who think they hold all the power think you could never find out the truth. Remember history books are always written by the winners
i love your videos but i actually get a bit triggerd by alle the s you hang on to the words idk why i get triggerd by that but your content is still great
since dreanor an outlands have shown examples of old ones on other planets (later on were shown a 100% corruption planet looks like during a boss fight) an since the natherzeim have shown the ability to enter an leave at will through the shadow lands. Does taht mean the old ones too can enter an leave it at will or perhaps has one of them even decided to set up shop there.
A Video On " Xalatath The Fifth Old God" Observing Every Dialogue And References To The Idea , As In Like That Book Which Featured 5 Old Gods Instead Of 4
Old Gods should be relevant again in some way. Weather its another one coming to Azeroth(Ev en if its way smaller to make it fit on the planet) would be fine . Find some way Blizz
Looking at his chin tendrils and some of his goat like features makes me wonder if he was somewhat responsible for the emergence of the Eredar/draenei through direct or indirect means. N'zoth had his agents doing his bidding while he was still imprisoned, so did C'huun. Y'shaarj surely would've been able to extend his reach beyond Azeroth as he was more powerful. "Face tentacles?! We DO NOT have face tentacles. That would mean that Draenei are emmisaries of the void, infiltrating your society so we can bring about its end! And I'm _sure_ you're not implying that, _are_ you?"
Yess thank you i needed more episodes. ♥️ When I click on ur channel it says there's like 1500 episodes but when I go on your channel it adds up to around 700 or so, is there more wow lore videos I'm missing? I've watched every shadowlands, I've watched chronicles 1-2-3, Nd lore quick fixes. I love your videos so much they are super clear fun and interesting with always a true passion of humor from your self thrown inbetween.
It's a shame how they dealt with C'thun and Yogg. The just left a note on the fridge "btw. The other old god's are already dead" after years of saying they were just pushed back into their prison. So much potential wasted ...
Blizzard royally screwed up and ruined Old Gods so bad that it’s honestly depressing. The underwhelming delivery of N’Zoth was monumental and catch all statement of saying they are all officially dead after saying for the longest time that we just killed manifestations of them before is such a horrible retcon and writing. Blizzard used to care about good storytelling and having mystery in WoW. Now it’s been shot to hell and it basically started after Wrath. I love this game so much and the storytelling anymore just makes me sad because of how awful it is.
I’ll never forgive Blizz for rushing the N’zoth fight to the point where we literally fought a mini nzoth head inside nzoths head… fucking pathetic. Then bam laser beam, then bam down goes the eye of Sauron. The carapace of nzoth boss was supposed to be part of the final fight. So sloppy. I might never get over it.
I always wanted the story to go in a direction where the Old Gods completely take over Azeroth and we need to deal with living in a ruined world full of eldritch horrors.
That was what I really hoped for as well, can't they just have at least one expansion where the current "big bad evil" is clearly winning? Especially the Old Gods. I want my Black Empire dammit!!
It's sad that we haven't fought or seen that God anywhere in the game, and we propably won't. Even Sargeras himself which was mentioned since Warcraft 3, was shown eventually in an in game cinematic. All that backstory for the most powerfull of the old Gods, and all we have is one artwork?
@@Nobbel87 Never heard it spoken by any character in-game, but I only played Hearthstone, never played Warcraft or WoW, so just always seemed weird when I heard someone say Yasheraj instead of Y'shaarj. Thanks for the clarification.
I didnt think we ever actually killed the old gods, just locked them away for a while before they would resurface. Always been told defeating them was nearly impossible, especially considering the implications it had on azeroth.
Even Nobbel says 4 old god. When you play classic there is an ingame book telling you that there are 5. Either blizzard retconned that shit like the whole helm of domination story from wotlk for shadowlands or they will be slick about introducing a 5th after claiming there are only 4 for a long time now. Inb4 Xal'atath was the 5th old god all along.
It's been less then 1min into the video but did Anyone else hear "before the mortal racists" instead of mortal races? Both definitions are not wrong 😂😅
Perhaps is Ysaarj locked up in the maw, empowering the Mawsworn. Seems a coincidence the Sha are the exact oposite of the Bastion paragon, and the Mawsworns first paragon is that of doubt.
So wait - if Y'Shaarj is the one that got ripped out of the planet and caused the Titans to need to make the Well of Eternity - who is the 5th old god? It's always said in lore that there were 5, and one was defeated before the imprisonment was required and the Well was created. Is there just 4 and Y'Shaarj is 2 in 1 to make the unnamed 5th? Or am I missing something?
You know I think there is a lot more lore to tell. I think Xal'tatath found Azeroth first, and was doing a symbiotic thing with her, then Yash and the others came by, teamed up on her and devoured her then locked her in the dagger. Ever notice how she showed no love for the other old gods despite being from the same faction. Her message "Tt is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C'Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y'Shaarj, and... well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be. " Notice she cut off after the word 'and' ? I have a feeling we have 1 more old god on Azeroth and we have yet to see what she is going to do.
Two thing Y'Shaarj clearly has 9 eyes in the art Weren't the Sha confirmed to be from Shaohao cleansing his burdens and Y'shaarj's curse on the land manipulating emotions and spawning the prime Sha from Shaohao?
“The beast with seven heads” doesn’t need to be literally interpreted with having 7 heads...The old god hungered on the emotions and the most used in MoP are the 7 deadly sins - bad emotions. Not a very voidy thing to do...but who knows what these Old Gods actually are...maybe they aren’t at all related to void 🥸
The whole "Yog is gone, C'thun is gone, because N'zoth is gone" makes no sense. That's like saying: Van Cleef is dead, Vanessa too now without actually having killed them (yet). The whole expansion ended so abruptly, it's a bit underwhelming.
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Y'Shaarj felt especially creepy when he was described as "the black goat that stares from outside the window".
like lovecrafts "the black goat of the woods." the most ripped off man in history lol.
Black Phillip.
It gets even creepier. One of the quest items from the Island Expeditions in BfA describes a vision. In that vision, you're drawn to a pool of black water. When you look down, you see the black goat staring back at you. Suddenly, you're the one trapped in the pool, while the goat is looking from outside.
This means Y'shaarj is in the Void, staring into the mortal plain and waiting to make return. But it also means, to quote Bran Bronzebeard in the Ulduar trailer: "It's gonna come after us, and we're gonna be the prisoners".
@@stormstrider1990 wtf kinda Of quest are you talking about?
lmao it's "the black goat with seven eyes that watches from the outside."
Pisses me off to no end that the creature whose known for having "7 heads with 7 sets of eyes, 7 mouths that begat 7 despairs with its 7 breaths" and each head formed one of the prime 7 sha....has only 1 head in all its artwork
Ffs blizz
that some bible shit. wouldn't wont to piss off anyone and cut into their precious money. (even tho it also has Lovecraft themes. 7 heads in revelations, 7 deadly sins. blah blah)
@@briankeys5941 oh ya cause the Angels isnt to much
The 7 thing is taken directly from the game
No, it was likelybthat the person who did the artwork...didnt know
maybe it that head is always just one of 7, but showing lall 7 would be too muich of a copy/paste clusterfuck so they whent with 1 instead?
Maybe all the artworks show only one of 7 Heads ? I always imagine Y'Shaarj as a Hydra
I’ve always figured it’s one of 7 heads of the monster
Ever stopped and thought about how many of these 'old gods' there has to be throughout this universe? They were randomly thrown out into space, and FOUR of them reached the same planet? Either it's a tiny, tiny, TINY universe, or there has to be billions, if not trillions of them. The vast, vast majority still hurtling through space.
maybe there is a correlation or mechanism between the magical powers eminating from a world and the inherent pull it has to attract void powers even from great distances like the outer reaches of the universe where the void lords reside. Its established that the titans originally found Azeroth because they sensed the immense arcane powers from across the cosmos, and maybe if old gods have some small ability to nudge their trajectory just a little bit as they are shot through space it would explain why 4 managed to land on Azeroth.
Either way, I hope they make sure to add a chapter on celestial Newtonian arcane mechanics in the next Chronicles. How much spacetime mana goes into each unit of acceleration times mass? This is low fantasy folks! very mathematically rigorous and not retconned at all.
Or maybe Azeroth its just a very unlucky and very lucky place for it to get so many mighty heroes and so many bad evil guys
Yep! Like in the intro quest for VE and the BE heritage quest, you see that the Void wants to take over the Sunwell. They want to consume all power
It was mentioned somewhere that Sargeras and the burning legion had wiped out the majority of planets out there so id imagine that they killed a lot of them but probably not all of them.
Or they get gravitated by world souls?
Nobbel, do the lore of nobbel the noble. From humble beginnings to lore legend. Make it happen!
The young lad's first words were, "hello, everyone."
What kind of gear do you think he drops? If corrupted gear was a thing surely..... nobel gear ? :D
Any gear would have a chance to be Loreforged.
This right here
would be amazing
"That is not dead which can eternal lie, and in strange aeons, even Death may die."
~ H.P. Lovecraft, creator of the Cthulhu Mythos,
inspiration for the Old Gods
yea getting pretty tired of blizz not even trying to hide the constant rip-offs. dont get me wrong a ton of games do it... there usually bad.
@@briankeys5941 i agree with ur statement, but the old gods themselves aren't a ripoff. If blizz just added a recolored Cthulhu instead of making 4 individual old gods and minions with a sht ton of lore then yea it'd be a ripoff, but they created their own ideas off of Lovecraft's base work. Which is inspiration. Sadly the BfA/Ny'alotha end cinematic WAS just a ripoff of the Lord of the Rings/return of the king ending where all of Sauron's stuff disintegrates after he dies with the ring. THAT was a ripoff on blizz's part. The sheer lack of creativity and it's disgusting. Inspiration is fine if you are original enough with your creations to barely see where you got the idea from. Just redoing a movie climax scene as your end-of-expansion cinematic is total bullshit.
Which also inspired A Song of Ice and Fire.
Y’Shaarj is definitely the cutest old god.
I’ve been waiting months for a non Shadowlands video. Now that it’s here, it’s on an old god. This day just improved by 10,000%.
I personally believe N'Zoth is still alive and my reason for this is there is still a very large piece of him that has been left alone this whole time. And it just so happens to have a temple/shrine above it that the Tidesages use.
I wish we got a real old god or void expansion.
I actually wish we would go back to simpler times, where we dont fight a god and call it a Tuesday.
@@SimplyVanis that was BFA
(cries in Shath'Yar)
@@JamailvanWestering look what they did to my boi, N'zoth! They killed him with a sparkly necklace!
it's called Mist of Pandaria, you know the one where you fking laugh because it has fking Pandarens as a race even though the Horde and Alliance have a fucking Cow, Furry and Space Goat as a race.
and now you have a fking another furry trash as a playable race.
"I'm going to need a bigger fryer to make this SOB into calamari..."
ya know, garrosh really did pandaria a solid in the long run. Absorbing the last of Y'Shaarj and cleansing its plight from the land putting it into his own visage. he may have only done it for the power but it sure did help pandaria move forward and past the sha
Could we maybe get a series of videos on the individual aspects? We’ve always got videos from creators on the aspects as a whole, but I want to know the finer details behind what happened to them before and after they became aspects. We already know the whole galakgrond business but there is always more to know
3:48 Just realized that this shot of Wrathion is nearly identical to the shot of Anduin emerging from the cloud of darkness to stab the Archon in the Chains of Domination trailer.
You have such awesome voice. It makes me feel easy and calm when I hear it.
As a lore-nerd, myself, I'm super disappointed with how they handled the Old Gods.. They had been built up with stories and hints for so long, and then just kind of rushed through and swept under the rug.. I really needed a Black Empire expansion between BFA and SL
Bro elune is heavy in this xpac. And Yshaarj is chillin on the moon, with or in elune. Who Tyrande is channeling rn. Plus azshara, sargaras, wrathion, illidan are creating a new pantheon as we speak.
Dont worry, its not end for Old Gods yet, just wait till next expansion
It's a case of if its not my idea I don't want it in the story. Blizzard has been doing that a lot recently. Before it felt like we were champions. One of the few that could do anything. And now nothing just another foot soldier. Doesn't feel special anymore. Everything that was years build in the making gone or not important anymore
16:11 The servant of N’zoth, you are a true champion of Azeroth!!
Nice relaxing video before bed! Thanks :)
When Aman'Thul plucked Y'Shaarj from Azeroth, its remains were brought to a titan facility on the moon and reshaped into Elune, a prototype for the Naaru.
The aqir were flesh-shaped into Zandalari, but the descendants of the mantid were naturally drawn toward their god on the moon and the wound that was left behind when it was torn from the world.
The symbol of the Darkmoon Faire is Y'Shaarj. Dark Moon. When Ysera died, Elune grew sha tentacles and plucked out her soul. Most sha are pure black with white around the edges, like an eclipse. Mantid and night elves are both nocturnal forest dwelling races centered around giant trees, they both have matriarchal societies, and they both hybernate for extended periods of time. The Night Warrior!
Poq'yith mazzka awan ki uhnish'philfgsh. The crooked serpent with no eyes is watching from the endless sky.
Crooked: (synonyms)twisted, warped, deformed, disfigured
Serpent: Y'Shaarj
No eyes: its seven eyes were plucked out and became the seven prime sha
Is watching: present tense, as in is still alive
From an endless sky: on the moon
I can keep going if anyone would like me to. I can write pages. Blizzard has been heavily hinting at it since at least vanilla.
Hmm. I've believed dark moon fair was old God related for a while. A lot more to think about
Love your lore videos. My only exposure to WoW is from hearthstone and thanks to your videos i know a lot about the game lore without even playing it once
This is great. Do you plan to do videos on the other Old Gods, ending with N'Zoth?
Hi Nobbel! Hope you’re having a good day!
Nobbel talking about Y' Shaarj and all I am seeing is N' Zoth.
Y's to N'z: what the hell man? You are stealing my screen time.
A lot of rolling R's in this video.🤣
Hey Nobbel, what about that Deathwing video ? There is a serious lack of lore videos from Cayaclysm.
Btw great video as always
Nobbel, I think you do one of the best jobs in bringing the Warcraft Universe to life! I admit, I am one of the players who plowed through quests and not until the last expansion did I pay more attention. however, I think Blizzard could do a better job at bringing the lore to life in game then they do now! If I am wrong with this, someone can tell me. Peace!
I just want an expansion where the Titans return to Azeroth and see all the damage that's happened to it since they last saw it and be like "Yeah, we need to wipe out all the races and start over."
I really just want them to freak out because there's a giant sword sticking out of the face of the planet.
the loregod returns, i love the videos and i am literally sad every time i see a video that contains spoilers for my current PoV in WoW x.x so happy to hear your delicious voice once more!!
Why is it that Garrosh saying he 'answers to no one' hits so much harder than Sylvanas saying she 'will never serve'?
I think the earliest issue that Shadowlands had is that they opted out of utilizing the Scourge directly in the introduction of the covenants. What role did the San'layn have in Denathrius' plan? Why is scourge death magic different from Maldraxxi fleshcrafting?
I think that by trying to introduce the covenants in a more sudden manner, they ended up hiding those plotlines behind macguffins no one cared about, which in turn painted peoples opinion of the story before any of it was discussed
it's weird but some of the names used in wow are some names I wanna name my kids with... can you imagine in class... "Is there a Y'Shaarj here..." LMAO
I thought it was the case with the old gods that we can defeat them, but we don't have the power to kill them.
Great video :D. You did an amazing job of connecting the dots.
Ohhh, appropriate time for some Y'Shaarj *wink wink*
I will miss THE OLD GOD Q.Q they were cool and creepy
This is a thumbnail appreciation post.
The thing in the stained glass window with the side buns is N'raqi, not Y'shaarj.
video in a nutshel:
yasharaj
genuinely cant believe how they just killed the old gods off screen
@Nobbel87 I have a question It's not about the old gods, but the question is who is the guy that has a statue in Burning Steppes?
anduin lothar
Anyone else remember when the twister nether and great dark beyond was the same thing?
So expanding our in game knowledge is bad?
Hell, in the real world we are always learning, but I guess in game we should remain in the dark ages and never expand our minds.
People have a theory that there is another Sha at the darkmoon fair.
-just look at the eyes-
Yknow.... It's kind of wild that *FOUR* of the old gods landed on azeroth. Cosmos is huge, chances of even one landing are astronomical, and it happened four times? Unlucky
The way he pronounces his Rs still make me want to kill myself, however his videos are just too good of quality, I still keep comming back and liking the video watching them from start to finish
Damn I'm early. Too bad my phone is dying lmao I'm going to have to come back for this
I...just realized that the way Anduin stabs the Archon is the same or a call back to how Wrathion stabs N'zoth. Hmm call back to the prior expansion for some reason or Blizzard really likes that emerge from the smoke and stab something bigger than yourself stunt
First hell yh/// informative video👍
next expansion will be WoW: Darkmoon (does that seem fair)
Could it be that the name "The Sevenheaded one" was only after his death?
Its all cool and all... but i expected way more from Nzod. Its a shame how it all ended really... I get it.. C thun was vanilla, they didn't know what they were doing. Now its 2020... and yet we still get this meh efford.
i refuse to accept the old gods are just gone from azeroth, so much build up for a character we interacted with once, stupid sexy wrathion, to shoot a laser beam and everything is back to normal after 5 expacs of hype to this moment
Blizz writing in a nutshell. N'zoth was meant to be this incredibly secretive and unknown danger teased over the years with clues pointing to him and his kingdom under the sea - considered the weakest physically but also the strongest due to his planning abilities (similar to Yogg'Saron)...
We had all this excitement going into it and they just patched him in and ended it all. Talk about anti-climax... Power of friendship beam = too strong for an old god. Sigh...
For me, once they retconned how strong the old gods actually were I lost my respect.
They had this amazing idea of how strong these old gods were and what an achievement it was to take them out then all of a sudden "No, actually they weren't really THAAAAT Strong". Once they said even Sargaras would beg for the mercy of death when confronted by them - now its like he'd rip them a new asshole. Uggh
Yogg is literally part of a legion quest, Blizz is just getting lazy with the lore and their storytelling. I miss the good old days.
Which Legion quest would that be?
@@jcmahrt5100 - If I remember correctly, part of the warrior class hall story is uniting some titan keepers with Odyn in the Halls of Valor, and this quest includes a trip into Ulduar where Yogg-Saron still has some small influence and can summon a few Faceless to attack.
@@mokarokas-2138 Actually, it was part of the Legion pre- event, where Magni takes Bran, Khadgar, and us into Ulduar and reveals Azeroth is a Titan.
@@stormstrider1990 - Thanks for the correction! ^^
maybe not lazy, i have whitnessed some things where the writers of games etc "said in interviews" "oh yeah char X is dead dead dont worry" just to later reveal they planned their return, and the "false" outing as "dead dead" was just to build up that unexpected turn thing since we as the players "already killed them" . i mean Andrew Hussie with Homestuck, Scott Cawthon with Fnaf and another smaller franchise i looked at that i dont remember the name of rn bc im bad with names and numbers, did verry verry similar things just to keep their fans on their toes.
sadly the Homestuck took a drastic BS turn when fanfiction writers literally replaced the original author, in fnaf scott literally hid a secret noone figured out so he patched it away becouse he wasnt glad with the presentation any longer, we still dont know what it was.
i mean something like that is what i would deffo do, tho i would do it a bit more sneaky then blizz.
The Paragons were against their old queen because to succumb to the Sha of Fear and fall victim to its influence is to show weakness. More than anything, even more than their loyalty to the Old Gods, the Mantid hate the weak.
Hey Nobbel, I know you’ve busy with lore and speculation of Shadowlands but you ever thought of doing a lore of Hamuul Runetotem? For becoming a hero in the next hearthstone expansion.
"Corrupting fully-grown titan was proven to be impossible"
Sargeras:
Ehh.. they are pretty different, Sargeras wasent 'corrupted', he just wields the power of Fel energy. He is just extremely stubborn, extreme and stupid.
@@iHaveGrudgeAgainstUT - Let's hope they don't try to spin it so he was actually corrupted by our "unseen guests" the dreadlords... Shadowlands seems to be taking that story in some uncomfortable directions.
@@mokarokas-2138 I think its clear that Sagaras was 'MANIPULATED' and not corrupted. Its like making friends with doggey bankers who give you exagg
erated informations and cause you to make decisions beneficial to their agenda
I’m pretty sure we while find out the Titans are as evil as they are good and stories they have told us are just stories to paint them in a good light
Oh god no that wouldn’t make sense
@@JamailvanWestering why not? People who think they hold all the power think you could never find out the truth. Remember history books are always written by the winners
@@anitabonghit266 except in this case there aren’t losers or winners
@@JamailvanWestering what makes you think that??
@@anitabonghit266 because there was no real war or fight
I hope ysharraj comes back as a boss, his character form will be awesome and badass
Once there was an old god named Y'Shaarj.
And then there wasn't.
The end.
blizzard -titans cant be corrupted lets lets corrupt Sargrus.
Why wouldn't the Old Gods appear in Shadowlands? They are not demons so they wouldn't be revived in the twisting nether.
i love your videos but i actually get a bit triggerd by alle the s you hang on to the words idk why i get triggerd by that but your content is still great
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since dreanor an outlands have shown examples of old ones on other planets (later on were shown a 100% corruption planet looks like during a boss fight) an since the natherzeim have shown the ability to enter an leave at will through the shadow lands. Does taht mean the old ones too can enter an leave it at will or perhaps has one of them even decided to set up shop there.
A Video On " Xalatath The Fifth Old God"
Observing Every Dialogue And References To The Idea , As In Like That Book Which Featured 5 Old Gods Instead Of 4
"the birth of the beh-lack empire"
Are all the all gods gone?? I thought there still was 2 left
C'thun and Yog are still in their prisons. Whether or not N'zoth is dead dead is debated.
Old Gods should be relevant again in some way. Weather its another one coming to Azeroth(Ev en if its way smaller to make it fit on the planet) would be fine . Find some way Blizz
Looking at his chin tendrils and some of his goat like features makes me wonder if he was somewhat responsible for the emergence of the Eredar/draenei through direct or indirect means. N'zoth had his agents doing his bidding while he was still imprisoned, so did C'huun. Y'shaarj surely would've been able to extend his reach beyond Azeroth as he was more powerful.
"Face tentacles?! We DO NOT have face tentacles. That would mean that Draenei are emmisaries of the void, infiltrating your society so we can bring about its end! And I'm _sure_ you're not implying that, _are_ you?"
Yess thank you i needed more episodes. ♥️ When I click on ur channel it says there's like 1500 episodes but when I go on your channel it adds up to around 700 or so, is there more wow lore videos I'm missing? I've watched every shadowlands, I've watched chronicles 1-2-3, Nd lore quick fixes. I love your videos so much they are super clear fun and interesting with always a true passion of humor from your self thrown inbetween.
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It's a shame how they dealt with C'thun and Yogg. The just left a note on the fridge "btw. The other old god's are already dead" after years of saying they were just pushed back into their prison. So much potential wasted ...
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I would love an expansion were the resurrected him to his true form. Also I never understood why we help the mantis or nerubians in Northern
Blizzard royally screwed up and ruined Old Gods so bad that it’s honestly depressing. The underwhelming delivery of N’Zoth was monumental and catch all statement of saying they are all officially dead after saying for the longest time that we just killed manifestations of them before is such a horrible retcon and writing. Blizzard used to care about good storytelling and having mystery in WoW. Now it’s been shot to hell and it basically started after Wrath. I love this game so much and the storytelling anymore just makes me sad because of how awful it is.
There is a 5th one somewhere so 🤔
I’ll never forgive Blizz for rushing the N’zoth fight to the point where we literally fought a mini nzoth head inside nzoths head… fucking pathetic. Then bam laser beam, then bam down goes the eye of Sauron. The carapace of nzoth boss was supposed to be part of the final fight. So sloppy. I might never get over it.
We mortals still fear, hate, doubt and despair.. and most of all, we feel pride. Y'shaarj is far from dead...
"H.P. Warcraft"
Im sure there will be more old god stuff in dragonflight with nozdormu and friends
I always wanted the story to go in a direction where the Old Gods completely take over Azeroth and we need to deal with living in a ruined world full of eldritch horrors.
That was what I really hoped for as well, can't they just have at least one expansion where the current "big bad evil" is clearly winning? Especially the Old Gods. I want my Black Empire dammit!!
It's sad that we haven't fought or seen that God anywhere in the game, and we propably won't. Even Sargeras himself which was mentioned since Warcraft 3, was shown eventually in an in game cinematic. All that backstory for the most powerfull of the old Gods, and all we have is one artwork?
Why does everyone pronounce it "Yasheraj?" It's spelled Y'shaarj, which should be pronounced "i-Sharj."
because that's the pronounciation they've given it as heard from characters like Wrathion.
@@Nobbel87 Never heard it spoken by any character in-game, but I only played Hearthstone, never played Warcraft or WoW, so just always seemed weird when I heard someone say Yasheraj instead of Y'shaarj. Thanks for the clarification.
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Do yog sarron!
I didnt think we ever actually killed the old gods, just locked them away for a while before they would resurface. Always been told defeating them was nearly impossible, especially considering the implications it had on azeroth.
To me it’s disappointing he is the most powerful, looks like a catfish that came from Chernobyl
Even Nobbel says 4 old god. When you play classic there is an ingame book telling you that there are 5. Either blizzard retconned that shit like the whole helm of domination story from wotlk for shadowlands or they will be slick about introducing a 5th after claiming there are only 4 for a long time now. Inb4 Xal'atath was the 5th old god all along.
It's been less then 1min into the video but did Anyone else hear "before the mortal racists" instead of mortal races?
Both definitions are not wrong 😂😅
Perhaps is Ysaarj locked up in the maw, empowering the Mawsworn. Seems a coincidence the Sha are the exact oposite of the Bastion paragon, and the Mawsworns first paragon is that of doubt.
Old gods dont go to the shadowlands when they die
yasharaj? i thought it was Y'Shaarj
Old gods couldn't corrupt a full grown titan but dreadlords could? Dreadlords more powerful than Old God's confirmed?
Not the same level or type of corruption. Dreadlords are just manipulative and persuasive. The old gods want to reconstruct the beings entirely.
So wait - if Y'Shaarj is the one that got ripped out of the planet and caused the Titans to need to make the Well of Eternity - who is the 5th old god? It's always said in lore that there were 5, and one was defeated before the imprisonment was required and the Well was created. Is there just 4 and Y'Shaarj is 2 in 1 to make the unnamed 5th? Or am I missing something?
I miss the old gods bfa did the old gods no justice
You know I think there is a lot more lore to tell. I think Xal'tatath found Azeroth first, and was doing a symbiotic thing with her, then Yash and the others came by, teamed up on her and devoured her then locked her in the dagger. Ever notice how she showed no love for the other old gods despite being from the same faction. Her message "Tt is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C'Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y'Shaarj, and... well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be. " Notice she cut off after the word 'and' ? I have a feeling we have 1 more old god on Azeroth and we have yet to see what she is going to do.
N'zoth? that you fought on bfa
and n'zoth was always considered the weakest of the old gods... people say that we didn't win on bfa and are trapped on a n'zoth spell
@@makemwet2488 remember though with Xal's talking she always referenced N'zoth.
Bro the MoP Cinematics look way better than our current ones wtf
Comment for the greater old gods👌
Two thing
Y'Shaarj clearly has 9 eyes in the art
Weren't the Sha confirmed to be from Shaohao cleansing his burdens and Y'shaarj's curse on the land manipulating emotions and spawning the prime Sha from Shaohao?
“The beast with seven heads” doesn’t need to be literally interpreted with having 7 heads...The old god hungered on the emotions and the most used in MoP are the 7 deadly sins - bad emotions.
Not a very voidy thing to do...but who knows what these Old Gods actually are...maybe they aren’t at all related to void 🥸
At their full power they are stronger than Titans so. I bet they are coming from some outside Universe thing
What if maldraxxus is the body of yshaaraj ?
What why🤣
I do wonder if we ever will get to see a corrupted titan that was corrupted somewhere else where the old gods actually succeeded
Sargeras was successful with corrupting Argus...might be possible for other planets as well
@@OrangeHead28 i will say that Argus was more demon corrupted rather then by the void which sargeras hated so would be interesting to see more of it
@@nagashtheundyingking4404 Very true - we will have to wait and see I suppose
Wait so the old gods are dead not just defeated?
But whats the story behind everyone pronouncing the name with an I in it?
I figured it was just Nobbel's accent - I thought it would be "EE - SHA ARJ"
The whole "Yog is gone, C'thun is gone, because N'zoth is gone" makes no sense. That's like saying: Van Cleef is dead, Vanessa too now without actually having killed them (yet).
The whole expansion ended so abruptly, it's a bit underwhelming.
and people say Pandaria was not a dark expansion.......