Lol. That’s cheating man. But yeah, you’re right, it must be nice sitting back in the quiet silence of pre-post contemplation of firstness. (Although, I should say, I once heard a piece of wisdom from a legit samurai that ‘the source of all low self esteem is comparison of self to others. No judgments - Only observation - Of self and others.’ Just thought I’d share. PS: you were great.)
You may not realize it, but I feel like your piece is something that Agent Orange would play as an interlude. You really made it seem like something natural and normal.
@@duskmare0000 It could totally be the Creature from the Black Lagoon's theme song. Or...what was that one MST3K movie? (looks it up) "The Horror of Party Beach". Would totally work for those monsters.
It certainly gives the feeling of a monster doing surfing, but in a way that themes around the monster they are and is still menacing. The vampire surfs on brains and gets close to a person as if they were to suck that person’s blood. The skeleton crashes and falls apart on his board made of bones but when the wake comes in he is reformed. The voodoo person has put people under his spell and the people are his board, but when the surfing is done the spell is undone and the people are unharmed.
Everyone: incredibly talented, pulls off amazing feats with great-sounding music. Nahre: whips out a Debussy/Sakamoto/Hisaishi masterpiece straight out of a bestselling movie or videogame. mind=blown.
Right!? Nahre took it to deep mood territory. Melancholy dreamy jazzy float is a particularly targeted and skilled theme to wield correctly. All were great, the industrial has my heart... But hers made me question if I was actually so affected like wtf it can do that? "Oh. Oh my...." Showed how far it could go. She gets my blue ribbon hands down.
Yo now that I'm listening to it "locrian hollow knight ost" is the literal best way to have defined that wtf lol They were all so good tho, I would not have expected such a weird sounding scale to be used so well
There’s definitely a quality to Nahre’s song that sounds like Christopher Larkin’s work but it almost sounds more like something from Zelda, or Scarlet Forest from deltarune. I love the more minimalist approach to that one.
On my second watch, I just realized Sammy G said "If you wanna have good time writing in Locrian, just raise the 2, 3, 5, 6 and 7 degrees and you'll end up writing something you enjoy" LOL
@@ljvanb1706 Haha i DID get it, I'm NOT the stoopid bass player Glenn Fricker always SAYS I am, not not NOT ;( In th-cam.com/video/7mKCFFIvlNA/w-d-xo.html - He's REPLACING us - with ROBOTS !
I am still in line at the pharmacy waiting for them to finish scanning all the Lysol wipes I'm buying to deal with this NASTY video! Thanky for the stanky!!!
I love how in basically every collab ever there's people going about things rather cautiously and carefully and then there's Ben Levin with something completely on the nose... Until the day when he basically gets asked to do that, in which case he does a full 180 and makes something ultra delicate like that one video on David Bruce's channel with the musical meme pieces
Like in David Bruce's video where everyone had to write music using only 3 notes, and David used every trick in his Profeesional Classical Composer™ toolbox to make something that _almost_ sounded sophisticated. Meanwhile, Ben Levin just leaned into the frustrated monotony and made something wonderfully, fittingly grating.
I can't believe Nahre's composition was all, exclusively, Locrian.... she obliterated the challenge because she made it sound the least like Locrian by being confined to exclusively use Locrian... the amount of harmony and thus emotional diversity and intensity she was able to squeeze out of the constraints is nothing short of masterful.
3 years after the fact and I still listen to her piece. It's such an incredibly moving passage of music. I'm not certain Nahre even realizes how brilliant and perfect the song is both as a challenge and as a standalone piece of music! I absolutely love it.
@StephenChapman Ithink she cheated in a way. Some of the lines are very strongly lydian feeling, which is not completely unexpected. Assuming her piece is in B locrian, try playing a Bb pedal tone under it, aside for the chromatic B you get exactly the notes of Bb lydian. Still an excellent rendition but I think this is the reason why people dont smell locrian in her piece. The 15:05 timestamp… clearly lydian
Locrian seems like the perfect mode to represent the feeling of frantically staying busy to avoid the anxiety of your inner voice. When it's moving, it's darting around and you don't notice it and when it's not, the unease sets in and you're forced to either forcibly relax and accept it or start moving again.
THIS! It's that way not just in the Locrian mode but also with any discordant use of diminished chords in general. I think that's why I've always connected to the really nasty side of mathcore (like, the screamo and hardcore side of things). Bands like Fear Before The March of Flames, Botch, The Chariot, and Converge know how to make you feel enclosed in that unstable tonality. To me, the diminished one chord still sounds like a resolution, probably because I've exposed myself to it so much that I've grown culturally acclimated to it, but it's a different kind of "home chord." If your one chord in other modes feels like a home, the home in Locrian is like a rusty cage or dark basement as opposed to a nice house. It's where you resolve to if you want your mood to reflect fear, anxiety, despair, anger, or being trapped in an emotional cage where nothing eases your doubt. It's a resolution similar to a major 7 sharp 5. I know that's a little off since the one chord in Locrian uses a minor third but I get the same "vibe" from it. It's that kinda home base.
The Nahre Sol piece sounded like following someone around a small town in France while they run errands and take a break at a coffee shop but there's nobody else around and then at the end it pans up and the person has been a lonely puppet the whole time.
Nahre's piece need to get on a soundtrack for a film or a game idc what, it just needs to, it's so atmospheric and it really feels like it's telling a story
Its sad to see such a little amount of people mentioning Ben's piece. It was the coolest by far in my opinion. Really glad that this video exists cus its all my favourite musicians making cool music in my favourite mode
@chaintech it opinions are subjective and you can think what you want about his peace but you didn't have to be a prick. He wasn't covering up the dissonance his peice was just different there are styles of music similar I'm sure. On top of that I'm sure he's More than qualified to make the peice considering that's his job I'd like to see you try. Long story short if you don't like it don't be an arse. there's a fine line between being a critic and being a fuckwit
I keep coming back to this just for the Ben Levin bit. Everyone was an absolute genius with this composition, but Ben Levin's bit is...visceral. Real. Deep. An absolute revelation.
"Locrian is kinda like Warheads candy, where you start sucking on it and it's like ughhh and then you suck it a little more and it's like hahaha yeah and you suck it a little more and it's like whoaa" -Levin, ben
Debussy was one of the few composers who actually used Locrian *relatively* extensively in his pieces (least when compared to virtually everyone else). Nahre herself though is an excellent composer and incredibly talented
The fact that the songs each outline their differences so well: Sammy G's eclecticism, Ben's insanity, Paul's catchiness, Nahre's finesse and Adam's quintuplet lo-fi bass-centric style are all very well represented! Beautiful video!
I know this wasn’t a competition and they were all REALLY good but I think Samurai Guitarist completely knocked it out of the park in terms of making locrian feel natural. The surf rock idea was really genius.
Those are planar headphones (I'm not sure the model, maybe Audeze LCD-2), pretty expensive, but many people swear by their sound. Sadly, I've never tried them myself.
I am not surprised Nahre Sol just blew it away with unrelenting beauty and creativity. No over-production, no other instruments, just "simple" and yet so amazing.
Locrian sounds SO good in progressive metal, it capitalizes on the vibe of the mode. Superlocrian bb7 is also super dope and both sound great paired with whole tone
the different levels of locrian: nahre sol and samuraiguitarist: "how do I work with that weird harmony" paul davids: "Imma just not play that flat 5 in the tonic chord" ben levin and adam neely: "whatever just put a drone in the bass"
I love the way Nahre just wrote some shimmering beautiful piano track because she operates at the level of completely altering the character of fundamental building blocks of sound, in her head, because she's a frickin genius. Without actually changing anything about the mode, lol
honestly I didn't feel it like locrian, I noticed that maybe she was playing with the center she used E Locrian but due to the repetition of C sounds like a Cmaj
I'm back 2 seasons later just to concur, because it's flat out worthy of remembering... this little rushed, toss away challenge piece. A comedy improv. Her "this is nothing" baseline. Her 1st prize is by a friggin landslide. And I don't shock easy. It's been a long time.
That was legitness! I love each of these for different reasons, and I'm so impressed with the creativity and discoveries. I haven't played with Locrian in a few years. Feeling inspired...
One thing I feared going into this video is actually liking the tracks they made and then realizing most of them wouldn't be available to listen to on their own, at least not for a while.
In fact with Phrygian, if you take Eb Phrygian, and make tonic D natural, you end up with something not quite Locrian or Phrygian. I like calling Phrygian Diminished.
Man, normally with these "multiple composers write music with X restriction/parameters" I find you get one or two which either don't hit you quite as well or that you connect with so much more than the others, it's unfair. But here, every single one of these pieces are bangers and have definitely opened my eyes to what's possible with my own songwriting. Fantastic job everyone 👍
2:30 The Surfin' Detective 5:33 Is this the new American Gods intro? 10:42 Lawrence of Traprabia 13:50 Christmas Time is Fear? 17:30 Pretty sure this is just a Tony Grey song from like 2004, would fit straight on one of his records
I love how Nahre’s piece used the VI7 chord it’s just so pretty, so lush, chord changes like that are what I live for and that’s immediately what I thought of when I thought about locrian sounding good
Nahre Sols track sounds like the soundtrack of a dark Chrismas movie, like a scene where a kid goes out to find a suitable gift for a demon haunting Chrismas
Props to Samurai Guitarist, for the handy tip for using locrian: "raise the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 7th!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Keep the music jokes coming; we can never get enough! 😂🤣😂😂
@@TomDytorn He suggests that the way to make the scale work better is to alter 5 of its 7 notes, changing it into a major scale. That's like saying you like to ride bikes, but only after adding two more wheels, an engine, steering wheel, seating for five, enclosed body, etc.
@dangelobenjamin She will be! But she needs to evolve more. When I first heard her jamming on Sound Field (PBS), she sounded like Mr. Rogers. However, ever since a year or so ago, she started composing like, and still composes like, Link is fighting a guardian in Breath of the Wild.
what's extra fun is like, as someone who knows nothing about music theory I have no idea what 'smelly' means, all of this just sounds like regular music. it's neat to hear people who clearly know what all of this means talk about something on a dimensional level I can't comprehend
if it helps, think of it as a way to describe the "ugh" or "eesh" feeling you get when you hear someone play a wrong chord or hit a bunch of wrong notes on a solo run. most people will scrunch up their nose as if they just got a whiff of a good one. we seem to be wired to really prefer smoother natural tones rather than ones that sound unresolved or that need to be followed by a root or something.
Locrian is a mode, a mode is a scale that starts at a different point than the root note. Imo its pretty inconsequential, your scale still matters more also the notes you choose. Also consonance and difference between notes.
I love how the guys' pieces have all in-your-face types of sounds and the Nahre comes with such a beautiful polyrhythmic piece. Do one of this for each mode, please!
nahre’s piece sounded so.. familiar? it sounds like a beautiful video game soundtrack, like the ambient music that plays while exploring. it’s so beautiful and whimsical and present
Double harmonic major and locrian don't have many notes in common though. It sounds familiar in this genre because it's like a blues scale without the 5th. The b5 serves the same function, it wants to resolve to the p4.
For me Nahre’s piece conjured the image of several empty white rooms in a house that was once a home. In my mind’s eye I could see myself tracing the sheetrock, kicking up wisps of dust as my shoes echoed across the mahogany floorboards. Nothing in the house suggested that people had lived there, but I knew the truth. I knew that these corridors had witnessed the mischief of children and the hushed pleasure of forbidden lovers. They had seen the beginnings and endings of lives, the victories, the defeats. Now they were observing me, a trespasser, trying to reconstruct my memories of the place. I remembered why I wanted to come back, and why I never should have returned.
Samurai guy is really just head over heels in love with the Locrian scale, he made that abundantly clear. I think he wrote a mish-mash of 60s and 70s movie and TV show themes, thinking Hawaii Five O/ Mod Squad/Bond as a few that come to mind. It was pretty cool, though. It was really difficult to resolve what I was seeing and hearing on that organ...I never realized judicious arm slams and random looking runs were a thing, but it pretty much worked. Levin's was just trippy. I don' know what he was saying either, but I'll bet it would fit some gaming worlds well, at least the if relative 'themes' were chosen for the right moments. Creative that dude is in Yoda speak. "I hope you ended up winning that fight with that bear" says the Ninja...appropriate, on at LEAST two levels. I tried fixing it (Locrian)...LOL. Paul's was VERY inventive. He really went all out. Nahre's....just plain awesome. New agey, kind of tone poemish. I really liked her treatment. "In quintuplets...of course it was" Yeah, nothing better than hairy bass...what the ...? Locrian lo fi hip hop. "A bass trying to be a guitar" Can anybody say Charles Berthoud? And a banjo, and most anything else you can think of. Funny. Sounded more jazz than hip hop to me Adam, and I really liked it. The things you can do now, via the internet, are amazing. This video is an excellent example. Great stuff. I'll finish it with Nahre's "that made no sense...hold on....CUT." Definitely fits my entire comment.
As a non-music theory person I have, and I cannot stress this enough, no idea what anyone is saying. But I enjoy seeing everyone’s musical abilities & collaboration. Hearing everyone’s different interpretations and tracks is awesome. 🙏
Paul Davids is a whole producer! I’ve loved his guitar channel for a while but he is even more versatile than I thought. Nothing but respect. Everyone snapped in this video!
"IT'S NOT THE WORLD YOU'RE CONFINED TO!!!!!! THERE IS NO BOTTOM OF THE EARTH!!!! YOU BREAK A PIECE OF A DAYDREAM!!! FOLLOW IT BEFORE YOU CROSS!" Thank you so much for that, Ben!
my first thoughts especially once i was hearing the surf rock was that this would sound completely in place in some really distorted heavy metal stuff. When ben's piece broke into the lighter part I was hoping it would go even deeper and throw in some distorted guitar... but what he did was still beautiful
While using the b5 and the b2 is really common in metal, you rarely have pure Locrian riffs. A lot of the time, those riffs include some chromaticism, and they also use the perfect 5th scale degree that makes the tonic a lot more stable. So, metal does take advantage of the "dark" sounding b2 and b5, but it rarely does that without including the perfect 5th or the major 2nd.
I'm pretty sure I've heard "army of me" (in another music theory video) bit I don't remember it, so these are really the only five songs I've ever heard in locrian
Nahre has made my favorite composition out of them and I think that she's the one who really succeeded in this challenge, she doesn't mess with the timbre of the instruments, she really made you hear the scale explicitly (Adam and Sam too but their compositions weren't as explicit and they emphasized more the groove than the scale).
Nahre: that doesn’t make any sense, sorry
Ben: daddy mayonnaise
Ben is certified one level more chaotic than Tantacrul lol
@@guiAstorDunc I checked out his channel in the past thanks to David Bruce's 5 Composers 1 Theme videos. After that, I was never the same again.
DADDY MAYO
Lollll
The best thing about being first is no one says "wow every other song was so much better". Well done all and a true pleasure!
You were first before the video was public cheater :P
Yo that better not be Mr Samuel G-man putting himself down
Lol. That’s cheating man. But yeah, you’re right, it must be nice sitting back in the quiet silence of pre-post contemplation of firstness. (Although, I should say, I once heard a piece of wisdom from a legit samurai that ‘the source of all low self esteem is comparison of self to others. No judgments - Only observation - Of self and others.’ Just thought I’d share. PS: you were great.)
You may not realize it, but I feel like your piece is something that Agent Orange would play as an interlude. You really made it seem like something natural and normal.
I want a full version of yours
That locrian surf rock sounded like when you're happy out of spite.
I imagine it's like normal surf rock but for monsters. I had a distinct picture of Dracula living in a beach resort rather than a castle.
@@duskmare0000 It could totally be the Creature from the Black Lagoon's theme song. Or...what was that one MST3K movie? (looks it up) "The Horror of Party Beach". Would totally work for those monsters.
It certainly gives the feeling of a monster doing surfing, but in a way that themes around the monster they are and is still menacing.
The vampire surfs on brains and gets close to a person as if they were to suck that person’s blood. The skeleton crashes and falls apart on his board made of bones but when the wake comes in he is reformed. The voodoo person has put people under his spell and the people are his board, but when the surfing is done the spell is undone and the people are unharmed.
@@duskmare0000 th-cam.com/video/3-OyMU5I1uA/w-d-xo.html
I read this as “when you’re happy out of sp**r**ite” and it actually took me a second to read it correctly
Everyone: incredibly talented, pulls off amazing feats with great-sounding music.
Nahre: whips out a Debussy/Sakamoto/Hisaishi masterpiece straight out of a bestselling movie or videogame. mind=blown.
reminded me of coraline's ost
Right!? Nahre took it to deep mood territory. Melancholy dreamy jazzy float is a particularly targeted and skilled theme to wield correctly. All were great, the industrial has my heart... But hers made me question if I was actually so affected like wtf it can do that? "Oh. Oh my...." Showed how far it could go. She gets my blue ribbon hands down.
is it just me or it reminds me of snowdin town from undertale?
As that went on, that piano piece became ridiculously beautiful.
That's a hit.
At first I thought that it wouldn't be very good, but then... omg...
locrian surf rock, locrian trap, locrian dubstep, locrian hollow knight ost, and locrian lo-fi jazz hip hop fusion
we are in the superior mode
Yo now that I'm listening to it "locrian hollow knight ost" is the literal best way to have defined that wtf lol
They were all so good tho, I would not have expected such a weird sounding scale to be used so well
You mean "Pop Country"
There’s definitely a quality to Nahre’s song that sounds like Christopher Larkin’s work but it almost sounds more like something from Zelda, or Scarlet Forest from deltarune. I love the more minimalist approach to that one.
how about Locrian rubbish?
@@marcosaraujo3555 kkk
my name's Adam Neely, and here's how this musical concept can be demonstrated by lo-fi hip hop with a quintuplet swing
LOL
honestly lol
side note im so fuckin tired of lo fi hiphop/quintuplet swing
Ooh burn
Bruh, this is infuriatingly accurate xD
more people than I thought are seeing this; just want to clarify I ❤️Adam and his lo-fi hip hop
the Locrian scale is the one weird kid who's always by himself, but actually turns out to have really interesting hobbies once you get to know him
Love how you're always in Adam's comments section, so random
Ey Omicron
"Interesting" like sniffing glue
@@Xen0vox no randomness in consistency
@@ernestogarcia3193 repetition legitimizes
On my second watch, I just realized Sammy G said "If you wanna have good time writing in Locrian, just raise the 2, 3, 5, 6 and 7 degrees and you'll end up writing something you enjoy" LOL
i dont get it
@@ljvanb1706 You get the major scale
@@ljvanb1706 Haha i DID get it, I'm NOT the stoopid bass player Glenn Fricker always SAYS I am, not not NOT ;(
In th-cam.com/video/7mKCFFIvlNA/w-d-xo.html - He's REPLACING us - with ROBOTS !
I raise all 5 of those except the 3 and 7.
@@petegaslondon Because you were the bot the whole time
"As I expected, Adam Neely just went and did straight-up pop country."
I feel like this line is underappreciated.
And he really Neely'd it
I had to rewind that line because I thought I'd misheard it. I chuckled pretty hard.
I nearly choked on my beer when he said that
I almost spewed my beer on that line!
I am still in line at the pharmacy waiting for them to finish scanning all the Lysol wipes I'm buying to deal with this NASTY video! Thanky for the stanky!!!
Your heavy stuff is awesome man
Hi Ben ☁🌲
❤️
Ben!! Was the dreamy section microtonal??
Yeah man. That’s some dark sh!t!!
“Daddy Mayonnaise, which is a superhero from the 1930s that I just made up” Never change Ben, never change
also his piece was pure beauty in insanity,right ? his creativity always blows my mind.
I love how he can say shit like that with a completely straight face
I tried looking this up and it's not a real thing. Disappointed. But there is a twitter account @DaddyMayonnaise
I didn't know who this guy was before this video and now i want to be in his friend group
I loved the comparison to warheads hahaha
It's one thing to hide the "locrianness" in the music, and other to completely embrace it and create a banger. Awesome job by Sami G.
Yeah man!! I loved listening to these tracks so much. An honor to be in this video, and who knew locrian held so much beautiful music 🤯
The production on your track was so good!
"trying to be a guitar" hahahahahahha
Besides for the always great music... the visuals on your segment... that editing... mmmm. Great stuff!!
You fucking killed it dude
Please tell me your track is available to buy or stream. I need it. Take my money
Me: "I'm wondering what Adam wrote"
Adam: "Lo-Fi Hip-Hop in Quintuplets"
Me: "I can't say I am surprised"
It was the most Adam Neely thing ever 🤣
@@Ildskalli tbf I was waiting for the locrian licc
@@SantaCarlaDrums the world is not ready for the locrian licc
This was great fun -- thank you Adam!! It was a pleasure to listen to all of the great locrian tracks!! 🧡 You all are awesome!!
I DIDN'T LISTEN TO YOUR COMPOSITION BUT I'M SURE IT WAS COOL AND GOOD OK BYE
@@amaice ok lol
I got chills and i havent even watch the video yet
your bit was really cool!!
I thought your piece was incredible it had some Just Melody era Nils Frahm sounding chords in it. Great Job!
I'm just scared that if Ben at the end of his life donates his brain to science, they might actually weaponize it...
lmao
Haha great comment 😂😂
You know they will
"so my tune was this lofi hiphop groove in quintuplets"
of course
What else could it be ? 😂
not again..
He's becoming a meme of himself, should we hold an intervention for him?
@@samuel_excels yes!!!!
@@cnonymous n o
I love how in basically every collab ever there's people going about things rather cautiously and carefully and then there's Ben Levin with something completely on the nose... Until the day when he basically gets asked to do that, in which case he does a full 180 and makes something ultra delicate like that one video on David Bruce's channel with the musical meme pieces
Like in David Bruce's video where everyone had to write music using only 3 notes, and David used every trick in his Profeesional Classical Composer™ toolbox to make something that _almost_ sounded sophisticated. Meanwhile, Ben Levin just leaned into the frustrated monotony and made something wonderfully, fittingly grating.
@@A.F.Whitepigeon That was the one which had "Frustrated Beethoven" or something of the sort as an instruction too wasn't it
that dirty sax solo, still playing it in my head from time to time
I can't believe Nahre's composition was all, exclusively, Locrian.... she obliterated the challenge because she made it sound the least like Locrian by being confined to exclusively use Locrian... the amount of harmony and thus emotional diversity and intensity she was able to squeeze out of the constraints is nothing short of masterful.
3 years after the fact and I still listen to her piece. It's such an incredibly moving passage of music. I'm not certain Nahre even realizes how brilliant and perfect the song is both as a challenge and as a standalone piece of music! I absolutely love it.
@@StephenChapmanliterally same
@@StephenChapman same
@@StephenChapman same
@StephenChapman Ithink she cheated in a way. Some of the lines are very strongly lydian feeling, which is not completely unexpected. Assuming her piece is in B locrian, try playing a Bb pedal tone under it, aside for the chromatic B you get exactly the notes of Bb lydian. Still an excellent rendition but I think this is the reason why people dont smell locrian in her piece. The 15:05 timestamp… clearly lydian
Locrian seems like the perfect mode to represent the feeling of frantically staying busy to avoid the anxiety of your inner voice. When it's moving, it's darting around and you don't notice it and when it's not, the unease sets in and you're forced to either forcibly relax and accept it or start moving again.
Oh my god that's a FANTASTIC analogy! Wow
😦 wow.
I really, REALLY like this analogy! Thank you!
THIS! It's that way not just in the Locrian mode but also with any discordant use of diminished chords in general. I think that's why I've always connected to the really nasty side of mathcore (like, the screamo and hardcore side of things). Bands like Fear Before The March of Flames, Botch, The Chariot, and Converge know how to make you feel enclosed in that unstable tonality. To me, the diminished one chord still sounds like a resolution, probably because I've exposed myself to it so much that I've grown culturally acclimated to it, but it's a different kind of "home chord." If your one chord in other modes feels like a home, the home in Locrian is like a rusty cage or dark basement as opposed to a nice house. It's where you resolve to if you want your mood to reflect fear, anxiety, despair, anger, or being trapped in an emotional cage where nothing eases your doubt.
It's a resolution similar to a major 7 sharp 5. I know that's a little off since the one chord in Locrian uses a minor third but I get the same "vibe" from it. It's that kinda home base.
.... you nailed it. The perfect explanation.
Thug: “What..what are you?”
Our hero: “I’m Daddy Mayonnaise”
Now that's a kind of trolling, but in God's mode.
daddy mayo is the hero we all fear
*throws jar of mayonnaise at felon*
He knows mayonnaise IS an instrument.
The Nahre Sol piece sounded like following someone around a small town in France while they run errands and take a break at a coffee shop but there's nobody else around and then at the end it pans up and the person has been a lonely puppet the whole time.
That is so oddly specific but also spot-on
Fin
chills literally
It snatches you away to somewhere else, by the roots. You have no say.
As a french, I can confirm. This happens everyday, and this is the music you hear when it does.
Nahre's piece need to get on a soundtrack for a film or a game idc what, it just needs to, it's so atmospheric and it really feels like it's telling a story
it sounds as if it were straight out of Genshin Impact music
It feels familiar oddly. Im getting elements of minimalism mixed with Australian composers like Carl Vine, Ross Edward's piano sonatas. I dig it.
@@mymo_in_Bbi would have Said Legend of Zelda breath of the wild 😅
@@MegaFrozenMan I'm not too familiar with that soundtrack, only with a few tracks
i feel like adam has josh bailey hidden in his closet and only lets him out when there's a drum part to record
poor josh
can confirm. he also has a shawn crowder locked in the other closet
@@calebfudrums how many closets does he have
This Nahre Sol should totally write soundtracks for movies!
I’m seeing a very mature, adult focuse animation, like Red Turtle.
haha temp tracks go brrr
Wow I definitely agree. That was phenomenal.
I agree, I can totally picture her piece as part of a soundtrack for a movie introducing a character whose life is OK, but has some quarky snags.
It does sound like a piece from a Studio Ghibli movie.
I need a new genre called Locrian Surf Rock
or just surf rock
It’s called trash metal
Its called black metal nigga
I am sofa king we todd ed
Bumper music for the TV series, "Private Eye Surfer."
Its sad to see such a little amount of people mentioning Ben's piece. It was the coolest by far in my opinion. Really glad that this video exists cus its all my favourite musicians making cool music in my favourite mode
That shit opened my mind :p
@chaintech it opinions are subjective and you can think what you want about his peace but you didn't have to be a prick. He wasn't covering up the dissonance his peice was just different there are styles of music similar I'm sure. On top of that I'm sure he's More than qualified to make the peice considering that's his job I'd like to see you try. Long story short if you don't like it don't be an arse. there's a fine line between being a critic and being a fuckwit
@chaintech it you know nothing about proper fx or sound design & it's apparent
its like Noise music
@chaintech it You will have a heart attack if you listen to clowncore
Amazing interpretations by everyone! This was so fun to watch and listen to.
I would also like to listen to your locrian improvisation.👍
Yes, I enjoyed it too a lot!
I think this means you have to do one too
@@jerrodshack7610 they got her on the Ugly Lydian one and it’s so much more than you could ever have expected
Please listen to this piece( purely locrian) and share your thoughts. th-cam.com/video/RkIK4JRFb7w/w-d-xo.html
Ben’s animation progress is inspiring. Last year they looked funny and silly, and now they are maturing nicely.
Yeah, his animation on "drunk" was mesmerising
Everyone: academical response
Sammy G: very nice
19:20 very academic response 😌🤣
I keep coming back to this just for the Ben Levin bit. Everyone was an absolute genius with this composition, but Ben Levin's bit is...visceral. Real. Deep. An absolute revelation.
*Adam Neely:* "The Locrian scale sounds like it smells bad."
*Me, not knowing a thing about music:* **nods like Kermit the frog**
a lil music theory never killed anyone
im allergic to music theory :( send thoughts and prayers pls
It sounds like ugly squares
"Locrian is kinda like Warheads candy, where you start sucking on it and it's like ughhh and then you suck it a little more and it's like hahaha yeah and you suck it a little more and it's like whoaa"
-Levin, ben
I feel like that also applies to microtonal music
@@treehann yeah
...😆, I thought that was hilarious!
Yeah, I guess I'm a long way into the ...oh, I like this, phase...👍
ha-ha, Ikr? XD
Bruhh what are talking about?👀 cause reading this made me think about what my gf did to me in my room
_Everyone:_ Chill locrian tunes~
_Ben Levin:_ *[Pulls a Code Orange type beat]*
Much better than any of the orange songs...
Ben makes it very clear how he feels about the locrian scale in his track.
Swallowing the Rabbit Whole moment for sure. lol
I thought it was just me hahaha
@@samuel_excels the animation literally has a person trapped in a cage.
Nahre's piece is giving off strong Debussy - Saint-Saens vibes
Debussy was one of the few composers who actually used Locrian *relatively* extensively in his pieces (least when compared to virtually everyone else). Nahre herself though is an excellent composer and incredibly talented
16:07 That must be one of the most Adam Neely sentences ever to be spoken
Lmao
so true
Sammy G: If you're thinking about making music with Locrian, make it Ionian.
I thought that was hilarious too 😂
you noticed that too ! hahaha !
@@FaustinaFalcon8 🤣🤣
@@coryrad9575 😂🤣
That was so funny! Raise the second, the.......
The fact that the songs each outline their differences so well: Sammy G's eclecticism, Ben's insanity, Paul's catchiness, Nahre's finesse and Adam's quintuplet lo-fi bass-centric style are all very well represented! Beautiful video!
Wow you nailed those descriptions. Damn
Couldn't have said it any better
Ben Levin's composition is sooo cool omg :o The others too but this one literally blew my mind, especially with the unexpected transition
Ben's interpretation deserves to be in a museum. So much expression and complexity in such a short amount of time.
But like Paul David's was really cool too
It caught me completely off guard and kinda blew my mind.... bens was amazing
That basically gave me a panic attack. But like a pleasant one?
"That makes Locrian kinda like Daddy Mayonnaise, which is a superhero from the 1930's that I made up." This, is why I love Ben Levin.
I just adore Ben. lols
Yeah, I almost spat out my coffee when he said that. "Daddy Mayonnaise" sounds so wrong! lol
Daddy Mayonnaise sounds like the Superhero Costume Mitt Romney wears over his temple garments ...
Everyone is talking about Nahre, Adam and Ben. Can we appreciate how amazing Samurai did?
Sammy G is so underrated. he’s my favorite youtuber for sure lol
God damn - Ben should soundtrack a sequel to SOMA.
The song's atmosphere oozes a nightmare of mechanical flesh.
Yeah mechanical flesh and existentialist dread
I know this wasn’t a competition and they were all REALLY good but I think Samurai Guitarist completely knocked it out of the park in terms of making locrian feel natural. The surf rock idea was really genius.
Yes, I’ll probably agree on that!
Id played 0-3-5
This was Surf Rock with switchblades, leather jackets, and a guy with spikey bleached hair smoking a spliff...
Alan Barnett The Gorch would listen to this music th-cam.com/video/-4ZkmgU32GU/w-d-xo.html
Sammy G absolutely murdered it! In the best way possible (in case anyone thinks I’m hating)
Replay
2:30 Samurai Guitarist
5:34 Ben Levin
10:41 Paul Davids
13:49 Nahre Sol
17:30 Adam Neely
Ty
Way to go Champ!!
Thanks! :)
What I love about this TH-cam era is that these wonderful musicians from all walks of life are able to find each other and collaborate! So cool!
I agree!!
Nahre Sol's piece was honestly amazing... I need the whole thing!
It's on her channel: th-cam.com/video/8HpVobJs1FQ/w-d-xo.html
Sounds straight out of Zelda BotW
Ben Levin does NOT look like the guy I would think would compose that
Having watched Levin for a while, his composition was exactly on brand
@@Khifler the accuracy of both these comments 🤣💀
oh, he does. he's exactly the kind of experimental, strange dude.
Ben's that kinda guy
one would think Trent Reznor
I love that Paul is wearing 10-inch cabinet speakers as headphones.
Those are planar headphones (I'm not sure the model, maybe Audeze LCD-2), pretty expensive, but many people swear by their sound. Sadly, I've never tried them myself.
They’re the audeze lcd-x, I have the same ones and and they weigh as heavy as they look!
I believe they are Hifiman brand (Sundaras, maybe?). Really good sounding cans, I own a pair and highly recommend them.
@@AMitrovic1 they’re definitely audeze lcd-x, I have the same ones
@@alyxgonzales no, thanks
I am not surprised Nahre Sol just blew it away with unrelenting beauty and creativity. No over-production, no other instruments, just "simple" and yet so amazing.
Locrian sounds SO good in progressive metal, it capitalizes on the vibe of the mode. Superlocrian bb7 is also super dope and both sound great paired with whole tone
the different levels of locrian:
nahre sol and samuraiguitarist: "how do I work with that weird harmony"
paul davids: "Imma just not play that flat 5 in the tonic chord"
ben levin and adam neely: "whatever just put a drone in the bass"
me: III VI II sounds nice in locrian ;-)
everyone: describes in detail reaction to tonality, chord changes, and production
samuraiguitarist: "thats nice"
My mom walked in the room when Nahre Sol's piece played and said it was pretty. I loved them all, but Nahre's was my fav.
She should compose&perform a whole album with one song dedicated to each mode.
The conversation between the high and low parts in Nahre’s comp was amazing. The subtle answer and response between them was beautiful.
I love the way Nahre just wrote some shimmering beautiful piano track because she operates at the level of completely altering the character of fundamental building blocks of sound, in her head, because she's a frickin genius. Without actually changing anything about the mode, lol
Nahre Sol's piece sounds like something that would perfectly fit in BOTW
YES
Felt alot like Undertale to me
honestly I didn't feel it like locrian, I noticed that maybe she was playing with the center she used E Locrian but due to the repetition of C sounds like a Cmaj
Felt like Hollow Knight to me, tbh.
I was super thinking that too
"I mean - as I expected, Adam Neely just went and did straight up pop-country, and uh... you know he really nailed it." -Sammy G
I laughed so hard.
Now I really want to hear some locrian pop-country!
The surf's up locrian was my fav along with Nahre's beautiful chords almost like impressionist.
Nahre's track is just magnificent. You can tell that her understanding of music is at a very,very high level.I absolutely loved it.
I loved how after Narhe Sol song everybody just settle down and spoke very calm and softly, very cool!
Nahre’s almost made me cry, it was absolutely gorgeous.
I'm back 2 seasons later just to concur, because it's flat out worthy of remembering... this little rushed, toss away challenge piece. A comedy improv. Her "this is nothing" baseline. Her 1st prize is by a friggin landslide. And I don't shock easy. It's been a long time.
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Lol I love that Ben described his as "safe". I know he means in terms of keeping it locrian but the actual song is really experimental and awesome.
I feel like Ben Levin should release an emotional dictionary of musical concepts. The "warheads candy = locrian mode" metaphor was just pure genius.
That was legitness! I love each of these for different reasons, and I'm so impressed with the creativity and discoveries. I haven't played with Locrian in a few years. Feeling inspired...
I'd love to see what you do with it, I love your stuff!
I need Paul Davids' full song. I can't stop listening to that clip.
PLEASEEEEE
Yaaaass! Pls make this happen :)
Yeah props to him for making Locrian sound "pretty" not just good.
One thing I feared going into this video is actually liking the tracks they made and then realizing most of them wouldn't be available to listen to on their own, at least not for a while.
I've always been baffled by people hating the Locrian mode. It's literally my favorite and sounds beautiful.
honestly i hate major the most from how overly saccharine and emotionless it usually sounds. even locrian i prefer over it
Please listen to this piece( purely locrian) and share your thoughts. th-cam.com/video/RkIK4JRFb7w/w-d-xo.html
I have a special affinity for Phrygian and Phrygian dominant. I'm a sucker for flamenco.
In fact with Phrygian, if you take Eb Phrygian, and make tonic D natural, you end up with something not quite Locrian or Phrygian. I like calling Phrygian Diminished.
My favorite modes are Minor, Harmonic Minor and Dorian
This was absolutely tremendous you all. Seriously great!
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Man, normally with these "multiple composers write music with X restriction/parameters" I find you get one or two which either don't hit you quite as well or that you connect with so much more than the others, it's unfair. But here, every single one of these pieces are bangers and have definitely opened my eyes to what's possible with my own songwriting.
Fantastic job everyone 👍
2:30 The Surfin' Detective
5:33 Is this the new American Gods intro?
10:42 Lawrence of Traprabia
13:50 Christmas Time is Fear?
17:30 Pretty sure this is just a Tony Grey song from like 2004, would fit straight on one of his records
I love how Nahre’s piece used the VI7 chord it’s just so pretty, so lush, chord changes like that are what I live for and that’s immediately what I thought of when I thought about locrian sounding good
Yeah, Nahre was more honest at using the half-diminished as home.
Nahre Sols track sounds like the soundtrack of a dark Chrismas movie, like a scene where a kid goes out to find a suitable gift for a demon haunting Chrismas
Definitely, it was so awesome
coraline OST stuff
It definitely made it sound wintery
It sounded like a video game soundtrack to me
Sounds like she was channeling Steve Reich. Peace.
I love Nahre's expression through Ben's piece
nahre sol's piece was so very enjoyable. i'd never thought i say something like that about locrian.
Ben's track starkly turning into a weird relatively quiet drizzle of notes is the kind of musical madness I live on. I love when songs do that.
Props to Samurai Guitarist, for the handy tip for using locrian: "raise the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 7th!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Keep the music jokes coming; we can never get enough! 😂🤣😂😂
Yeah!!! That joke went under the radar!
Can you explain it to me? I genuinely want to know
@@TomDytorn he basically changed the mode altogether out of Locrian
@@TomDytorn He suggests that the way to make the scale work better is to alter 5 of its 7 notes, changing it into a major scale.
That's like saying you like to ride bikes, but only after adding two more wheels, an engine, steering wheel, seating for five, enclosed body, etc.
@@Gregorypeckory basically it's not locrian anymore
Nahre Sols song sounded like the song that plays in breath of the wild when you encounter a guardian
Yeah she's a great musician, have you heard Alice in Wonderland by her?
Absolutelyyy. She will be a household name composer for many.
@dangelobenjamin She will be! But she needs to evolve more. When I first heard her jamming on Sound Field (PBS), she sounded like Mr. Rogers. However, ever since a year or so ago, she started composing like, and still composes like, Link is fighting a guardian in Breath of the Wild.
what's extra fun is like, as someone who knows nothing about music theory I have no idea what 'smelly' means, all of this just sounds like regular music. it's neat to hear people who clearly know what all of this means talk about something on a dimensional level I can't comprehend
David Bennett piano has a few really good videos on modes and especially the locrian mode if you're interested!
if it helps, think of it as a way to describe the "ugh" or "eesh" feeling you get when you hear someone play a wrong chord or hit a bunch of wrong notes on a solo run. most people will scrunch up their nose as if they just got a whiff of a good one. we seem to be wired to really prefer smoother natural tones rather than ones that sound unresolved or that need to be followed by a root or something.
it's cool that you still wandered into this corner of the internet!
I think it’s fascinating that you can’t detect dissonance in music! I don’t know that much music theory, but stuff like that always sticks out to me
Locrian is a mode, a mode is a scale that starts at a different point than the root note. Imo its pretty inconsequential, your scale still matters more also the notes you choose. Also consonance and difference between notes.
This was educational and entertaining! Locrian to me feels like painting a picture only with colors of the green and blue part of the spectrum.
So... the default windows wallpaper?
I get greens and yellows maybe oranges
Muted blues and greens and browns through a murky lake. Yes.
i get oranges and reds, like western sunset colors
There's just so much class in Nahre Sol's tune that we should all raise funds for her to release this as a song.
I agree she won this without question
@@anuvette I saw your comment and heard it again after a year. Blew me away again.
@@VladimirBrown same I've been listening to it consistently since last winter and it brings me to tears every single time
I love how the guys' pieces have all in-your-face types of sounds and the Nahre comes with such a beautiful polyrhythmic piece. Do one of this for each mode, please!
The Iron Chef of Music. Today's ingredient: LOCRIAN.
Brilliant
@@jmpsthrufyre is it though? : P (sorry just nitpicking)
coz' this is more like an exhibition than competition. They are clearly all winners.
...Fukui-san...
yesss?....
nahre’s piece sounded so.. familiar? it sounds like a beautiful video game soundtrack, like the ambient music that plays while exploring. it’s so beautiful and whimsical and present
Adam: *uses bass to play melody
Paul: haha bass... trying to be a guitar!
Also Paul: *used a guitar for a bassline
xd
@@mangekyo_sharingan_ xd
XDXD that is TOO FUNNY :D
Lmao
@@gniewomircioek6845 xd
The Byzantine scale of Miserlou has a flat 2nd degree, so maybe that's why Locrian surf rock sounds half way familiar
Double harmonic major and locrian don't have many notes in common though. It sounds familiar in this genre because it's like a blues scale without the 5th. The b5 serves the same function, it wants to resolve to the p4.
@@beanzthumbz You also get a major seventh on the tonic with double harmonic major, which is quite a difference
Why no one gonna talk about how amazing Anuka’s voice is in Paul’s track
"ain't it funny how Paul and I made a track, locrian turned into trap"
Totally and completely amazing voice!!!
🙂
For me Nahre’s piece conjured the image of several empty white rooms in a house that was once a home. In my mind’s eye I could see myself tracing the sheetrock, kicking up wisps of dust as my shoes echoed across the mahogany floorboards. Nothing in the house suggested that people had lived there, but I knew the truth. I knew that these corridors had witnessed the mischief of children and the hushed pleasure of forbidden lovers. They had seen the beginnings and endings of lives, the victories, the defeats. Now they were observing me, a trespasser, trying to reconstruct my memories of the place. I remembered why I wanted to come back, and why I never should have returned.
Are you synesthetic or just descriptive, because that was beautiful
@@shanekayat3217 Thank you!! That made my day. Nah just descriptive. I mostly write poetry :)
That happened tome yesterday
that's so beautiful
So a FFX level? Cuz it has serious Final Fantasy vibe to me 😂
14:12 Whooooa, this busy piano sound works perfectly in Locrian! Fantastic work.
Samurai guy is really just head over heels in love with the Locrian scale, he made that abundantly clear. I think he wrote a mish-mash of 60s and 70s movie and TV show themes, thinking Hawaii Five O/ Mod Squad/Bond as a few that come to mind. It was pretty cool, though. It was really difficult to resolve what I was seeing and hearing on that organ...I never realized judicious arm slams and random looking runs were a thing, but it pretty much worked.
Levin's was just trippy. I don' know what he was saying either, but I'll bet it would fit some gaming worlds well, at least the if relative 'themes' were chosen for the right moments. Creative that dude is in Yoda speak. "I hope you ended up winning that fight with that bear" says the Ninja...appropriate, on at LEAST two levels.
I tried fixing it (Locrian)...LOL. Paul's was VERY inventive. He really went all out.
Nahre's....just plain awesome. New agey, kind of tone poemish. I really liked her treatment.
"In quintuplets...of course it was" Yeah, nothing better than hairy bass...what the ...? Locrian lo fi hip hop. "A bass trying to be a guitar" Can anybody say Charles Berthoud? And a banjo, and most anything else you can think of. Funny. Sounded more jazz than hip hop to me Adam, and I really liked it.
The things you can do now, via the internet, are amazing. This video is an excellent example. Great stuff. I'll finish it with Nahre's "that made no sense...hold on....CUT." Definitely fits my entire comment.
Nahre's piece evoked a mysterious forest populated by curious and strange creatures.
It sounded a lot like a place in a Zelda-like RPG
@@Bronze_Age_Sea_Person bro I was thinking the exact same thing, i closed my eyes and I was in kokiri forest
full mushishi mode
Gave me Opeth "the devil's orchard" vibes
@@Sebastian_ignasi0 Eyyy, the music is truly fitting
As a non-music theory person I have, and I cannot stress this enough, no idea what anyone is saying. But I enjoy seeing everyone’s musical abilities & collaboration. Hearing everyone’s different interpretations and tracks is awesome. 🙏
Paul Davids is a whole producer! I’ve loved his guitar channel for a while but he is even more versatile than I thought. Nothing but respect. Everyone snapped in this video!
“Locrian surf rock, a glimpse into a history we never had”
It reminds me of The Munster’s theme, making me wonder if that was locrian
"IT'S NOT THE WORLD YOU'RE CONFINED TO!!!!!!
THERE IS NO BOTTOM OF THE EARTH!!!!
YOU BREAK A PIECE OF A DAYDREAM!!!
FOLLOW IT BEFORE YOU CROSS!"
Thank you so much for that, Ben!
I don't know what he meant but I felt it on a spiritual level
that track was insane
Alternate title: Non-Metalheads Write in Locrian for the First Time
I was JUST thinking that. Cuz I've used Locrian a lot. Fuck, I've used crazier scales... but if they did metal, it would probably be cheating.
Honestly if you add distortion to the surf rock one and combine it with Ben Levin's, you'd get some pretty cool industrial metal
Yeh a low B on an 8 string would have been cool, could have mixed in some A harmonic minor flavours and gone all proggy/epic.
my first thoughts especially once i was hearing the surf rock was that this would sound completely in place in some really distorted heavy metal stuff. When ben's piece broke into the lighter part I was hoping it would go even deeper and throw in some distorted guitar... but what he did was still beautiful
While using the b5 and the b2 is really common in metal, you rarely have pure Locrian riffs. A lot of the time, those riffs include some chromaticism, and they also use the perfect 5th scale degree that makes the tonic a lot more stable. So, metal does take advantage of the "dark" sounding b2 and b5, but it rarely does that without including the perfect 5th or the major 2nd.
Nahre's piece sounded like a time lapse of a flower growing with a few rain drops every now and then.
whenever i think i know what people are gonna come up with in these videos- i’m always dumbfounded by how crazy talented everyone is
The best 5 songs in Locrian I've literally ever heard.
I'm pretty sure I've heard "army of me" (in another music theory video) bit I don't remember it, so these are really the only five songs I've ever heard in locrian
@@iamdigory check out Juicebox by the strokes
Its funny how nobody realises that a large ammount of master of puppets is in locrian.
@@dragongamer4753 E phrygian
@@joaovictor3312 really its all chromatic, but the main riff from the verse is in locrian.
What the actual hell, each of these songs is my new favorite song now
Nahre has made my favorite composition out of them and I think that she's the one who really succeeded in this challenge, she doesn't mess with the timbre of the instruments, she really made you hear the scale explicitly (Adam and Sam too but their compositions weren't as explicit and they emphasized more the groove than the scale).