The gentleman from the CIA is a real CIA operative. Ducking questions and still giving the impression that he is disclosing the whole truth while in fact saying nothing. Congrats.
Don't Forget Joe also Offered himself up to the CIA to become a SHILL inorder to learn what they know about E.Ts I really liked Joe till he started doing that ND then he started getting more publicity for many controversial topics of discussion but I can never let that go because it's really hard to figure out if he did become a SHILL for the CIA to be used for Psyop missions or Not?
My father was tested on during vietnam. He and his buddies were told they could sign up for “ weapons testing” to get some time out of the jungle and so he did it. They ended up locking them in a gym for a week didnt allow them to sleep and gave them glasses of water that were dosed with “ BZ (unidentified chemical) LSD and a third unnamed unidentified chemical.” After dosing they were given tasks to complete and radar screens to look at and tested interrogation techniques on them. My father years later sent a foi request to try to find out what the other two chemicals were because of cancer and other things he thinks came from that or the agent orange and the govt sent a letter back saying basically “ when u signed up for the weapons test you signed a document stating you would never request this information.” Its insane that this shit is real
The chemicals given were probably LSD to spark thought and the other chemicals were inhibitors of memory, like a chemical lobotomy so that all that is remembered is what they were told while on the LSD which is the basis of mk ultra mental programming
What they Did to Your Father is absolutely Repugnant !! It's Violation of the Nuremberg Code just like forced Vaccinations !! Agent Orange was eventually exposed .. Just like PTSD .. These so called world leaders who Are in Violation of the Nuremberg Code ..
@Brad Fuller I wonder if people get training to be able to speak that much while saying nothing, or if that's a skill that some people just naturally have, that makes them suitable for government work.
@@lockandreload No, I'm sure they do, along with training people how to resist questioning and all that other stuff. More broadly, I'm wondering where the skill itself comes from. Like has this guy always been able to talk like this to one degree or another, or did he learn all of it while working for the CIA? I asked it that way because my question goes beyond just the CIA, and covers any type of career politician as well.
Everyone always talks about the drug side of MKU but nobody talks about the other half of MKU that is still classified to this very day that dealt with Radio Frequencies.
A world-class lesson on how to talk about a very sensitive subject, for over 20 minutes and not say anything secret. Once a spy always a spy. Class act.
Lol 😂 something you grow in family where you learn to be like this for life or forever rolling or plotting lol or playing life game or something else lol lord lord bless lord lord never trust no one but your Doberman pincher love love Doberman pincher love you love love y’all love you love love you daddy love love y’all love love you 😍 😅🎉😂❤😢😅❤😅❤
And an fyi most CIA agents get killed for saying any truth, you think there wasn’t a cia group watching this show waiting for one thing to be said then boom cut the stream and power to joes building wait for Mike to leave the building and once he is in his car make him disappear
@@djtekitizi the problem is that he only talks about things you can freely find on the internet and most of it is also incorrect which I believe he is doing on purpose. Put that all together anf it makes this interview full of shit.
Honestly, his body language and his stuttering and running and ahhing comes off more like he's uncomfortable talking about this stuff. When he's talking about subjects he's passionate and well informed, he doesn't do that. If I had to guess, I'd say he just doesn't really know much. I mean, think about it. If he was as well practiced at lying, would he be showing signs of discomfort? I wouldn't be surprised if he was way lower on the totem poll then people think.
@@BooYaa253deffinitely. it honestly makes me doubt conspiracies. I mean either you gotta do mental gymnastics to make sense of the "he's a misinformant" theory, which at that point is just confirmation bias, or just treat him the way he presents himself, as just a fairly normal dude who worked for a government organisation. Not all that crazy when you think about it like that.
Man it seems like some people were watching a different video. The guy explains the cold war context, how it was funded through cutouts, talks about the lack of understanding of psychoactive drugs at the time, and says after the program was over almost all the files were destroyed. That seems like it would be the limit of his knowledge of a code word classified program that ended when he was 3 y/o. I mean what are you guys expecting? Him to admit he's a trained assassin through the art of hypnosis and LSD? This guy was probably a case officer out of an embassy who played detective in a foreign country. I doubt he would be on JRE if he was in a black ops unit or some other code worded program.
@@JohnDoe69986 I love all the knowledge and facts these detectives have on social media platforms so they can accuse people of being shills liars operatives and distractions
My father was a victim of the MkUltra program. He was a helicopter pilot in the US Army who was admitted to a VA hospital after falling off the wing of an airplane while refuelling it... supposedly... That was not his job and he would have had no business performing such. After 18 months in hospital he came out a completely different person. He had been transformed into the perfect soldier, gun-ho and completely willing to throw himself into whatever suicidal task was presented to him, even after leaving his official military position, but a totally dysfunctional and violent alcoholic on civy street. He spent the 60s and 70s in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malawi, Rhodesia, Mozambique, and virtually every other 3rd world hellscape imaginable, flying choppers as a much sought after mercenary known in relevant circles as "The Maintenance Man". I never knew him. He was never around. He met his end in 1985, when while working as a carpenter, he fell off the scaffolding after suffering a heart attack... alone... with nobody to call 911 or take him to the emergency room... supposedly... There are no witnesses to confirm or deny the official record.
Sorry for your situation and how these incidents strongly affected your fathers ability to be a soldier as opposed to a father. My thoughts are with you my G❤️
Yeah that was definitely no accident. Tying up loose ends and liabilities so there’s no witnesses or proof and they claim plausible deniability smh evil
MKULTRA programming is more prevalent than ever. They just changed the name (Project Monarch). It was not disbanded and countless Americans and many celebrities have been subjected to it. It's imagery can be seen throughout movies, TV and music videos which are intended to trigger programming.
Yeah they figured out how to shape and control society without chemicals, kinda genius. Most in the USA are too busy fighting left vs right to realise its them vs the govt.
Yeah I heard the M in MK was for monarch also reference to the butterfly because it has some innate directional instinct to fly to the same place annually. So I guess they figure if people have all seen the same "programming" they will all respond the same also? Some nostalgia perhaps? Obviously some people are more susceptible to suggestion than others though.
Does anyone else find it difficult to take what a "former" CIA Agent says seriously? These guys are the best manipulators in the world, EVERYTHING is a con with them. I feel like I'm being mind-fucked every time I hear one speak!
All of these interviews with them are the same. They are pro at talking for hours and saying nothing new or that isn't already public knowledge. It's like they all took a class on talking in circles. Lol
@@dangbro2589 , actually it's not really, as long as you're not cursing the Lord or using his name in vain. Besides, you can't be all THAT worried about it if you're watching Rogan's podcasts. That guy curses like a drunken sailor!
He is slow slick with answers. Much respect, he gets a direct question but side steps it and answers another question without taking a breath, an Joe may or may not notice. Love this.
This stuff does absolutely happen. I've seen similar things, not quite on this level, happen in my home town. Being in the dope game you see a lot of things that others dont
@@crichey56 I have definitely been know to be a user. However I've also seen first hand how the feds and city police work while investigating the dope game and what happens when the FBI comes to town when somebody in the game dies.
I wrote a paper on the MK-ULTRA project. All of what he is saying is publicly available, and it's not that hard to find. So maybe he's trying to inform the lay man, but he has provided nothing more than publicly available information. He's really just dancing around/trying to remember what's publicly available and what's not.
I mean they have a gun with dissolving bullets that makes it look like you have a heart attack if i was a glow i would be towing that line like a tightrope unicyclist too
That’s probably because he doesn’t know anything else that’s not public knowledge. Just because he worked for this govt agency, does not mean he’s aware of all their secrets. That’s a stupid assumption.
👉👉Watch Mike Pompeo BRAG about how he and other CIA agents learned to lie, and did it frequently, as if its a game! These LITERAL "deep state" intelligence and covert military departments are guilty of things RIGHT NOW that make MK ULTRA look tame by comparison! 😖 ✔They figured out mind control a while ago, and they can remotely torture people, influence their thoughts, put them to sleep instantly, cause ANY type of pain imaginable, and they are testing it on US citizens NOW! 👎😡👎
Agreed. There is no way that the CIA could let someone be an "ex". Just like the nuclear scientists, they would, at the least, be dropped in on, surveiled, interrogated, threatened, coerced, etc. or just kept on the payroll and used for controlled opposition.
It WAS used against Americans by the USSR. In the last days of WWII America ended up with most of the technical documents while the USSR got most of the psy-ops documents including effective brain washing techniques and were using them on political opponents and POW's alike. The CIA was trying to bring that gap by researching from the ground up got cleared to do it by any means necessary. I cant stress enough how heinous their actions were but understand how crazy the situation was. Russia brain wash a fucking arch bishop and put him on national radio in a full cathedral and for him to admit to murdering babies and leading a treasonous, anti-communism terrorist organization like it was nothing just to push out the church and solidify their power base like any other tyrannical government. Unlike other tyrants, they had a massive nuclear arsenal and one of the largest populations on earth. "The Men Who Stare at Goats" looks into the far more ethical army version of the MK Ultra program and how that evolved into the horrible privatized armies of today.
@@notchomomma239 Imagine believing the USSR brainwashing propaganda LOL. What a dummy you are. Russia got us to attack our own people based on nothing but speculation.
@@cezerelecrucio9717 is called "history." When you don't believe something, some people will Google it just to verify they're not about to post a dumb comment while others will blurt out whatever comes to mind no matter how dumb it is... did you look before you leaped? Of course you didn't, that would require effort. One last concept tho, the USSR doesn't exist anymore so I'm talk about history, not current events. Prussia didn't kill your dog anymore than Rome killed your cousin.
Ikr, always in the back of your mind you thinkin' what kind of shady or even fucked up shit he's done workin' for the CIA. Messed up man, but hey one or the other you chose that path. Unfair or not.
I’ve met a few select individuals in my lifetime who are familiar with and practice the art of saying everything while saying nothing . . . .none however have reached this man’s level. Peak bs-ing. 👌🏼
Manson was a pimp prior to his incarceration. It’s not unreasonable to assume that he learned mind control through some CIA experiment and was able to take his pimp game to a whole new level.
He never mentions that they were also using the hookers & LSD to set people up for blackmailing. I know someone that was involved, unwillingly. This 'retired' CIA dude is a joke.
@TraumaFree TV I agree on all stated. I know some of the people you mention, but you just gave me some new names. Thanks. Noted and I'll be looking into them. I found the daughter to the madam online. She's sharing all kinds of first hand information, plenty of documentation too, photos, etc. I personally think Zuckerberg, Musk and some others have been through a MKUltra type program. Do you know about the Sabbatean-Frankists?
Remember guys; projects don't end - they become new projects based on what was learned in the first MK-Ultra as a program finished - the activity continues to this day
Geral sosbee FBI Whistleblower Richard lighthouse NASA whistleblower Ted gunderson FBI whistleblower All countries have targeted individuals being experimented and tested with direct energy weapons like voice of god weapon and dream manipulation technology
Some are born into the program some were protestors, direct energy weapons can be done remotely. Existed since the 50s that’s where the tinfoil “joke” came from it’s recently being recognized as Havana Syndrome
I always say the same thing about Project Stargate. They've just switched the topic to astral projection and remote viewing. The Cold War never ended; it's just gotten advanced enough to where most people don't even see it.
Everytime he says “ I’m sure everyone knows this but for those that don’t” take a shot 😂 this guy really gave no information or even a single cool story while talking non stop about nothing at all
He definitely read up on what was publicly available before talking on the show here lol And what's more likely is that while he was in the CIA he wasn't very aware of all this stuff going on and is just using his ex CIA employment to get legitimacy so he can talk shit and make some money. Most CIA projects are all kept separate to avoid leaks and most employees don't know what the others are doing in their projects or if there even IS a project He never brought anything new to the table he just talked about stuff you can find yourself online
Basically around 9:35 they're describing Bill Haders character from Pineapple Express in the into, kicking back smoking a cigarette watching someone smoke weed 😅
Absolutely. This interview makes it seem like they were just given some acid and observed. There were children tortured to break their personalities and create mulitples. They used extreme trauma with these kids to do this. One of the darkest stains on history of our country.
@@LetsGoGetThem I hear you I just think it's rare that someone expresses outrage over the fact those doctors and Intel agents got off scot-free. And most people have never heard of MK-ULTRA. The government is obviously trying to conceal it as best as they can from the mind of the public. I'm just angry that no one was held accountable for those very real human rights violations.
He's only allowed to talk about what it is already public knowledge. There's also confidential information that even most CIA agents aren't allowed to know. If he knew something that was classified, it would be really stupid for him to talk about it on the biggest podcast in the world. Big ups to Mike Baker for having to courage to come on the show, I'd be worried about letting something slip that would cause my house to have a mysterious gas leak.
Cia ops are compartmentalized. He wasn't on these ops, so he don't know shit about them. But he marginalized and deflects as some sort of denial that these abuses could've ever happenned. He's a Cia pr hack.
There is no need to destroy assets when they can just be institutionalized as schizophrenic or dismissed as part of the conspiracy theorist smokescreen.
Yeah, I wonder if he even read the book. The book had a few shortcomings, but a lot of stuff that really makes you question the real motives. He didn't even talk about Jolly West and David West, Completely jumped over the Haight Ashbury clinic. Joe should've brought of Reeve Witson.
100% I was literally about to say - Gotta love it when Joe, possible CIA operative, Rogan brings Shills on to push an agenda saying that our gov. intelligence agencies were just a couple of goofy creepy dudes who liked to jerk off while watching people fuck prostitutes on lsd... and definitely NOT committing horrible atrocities on adults and children using extreme torture & drug use to see how they could break the human psyche into multiple pieces for mind controls purposes & military intelligence.... It definitely wasn’t that at all... 😒😒😒
"body language experts" have been thoroughly debunked by real science, and you still pay for FBI training in it... Its literally just some dude giving an opinion... lmfao
I dunno I think they got a lot of success with mind control with television and phones. Go on a bus, train, or walk downtown the street and see how many people and controlled by their phones
@Տςհաҽҽժվ ᏖᎧᎴᎴ like what? 😂 it’s human nature. We will replace them and then fear will cause us to create another CIA . You gotta oppress the poor and undesirables and do dirt to spy on your enemies .
Good, but bad. As citizens, we cant fix problems that we dont know exist yet. All we know is the mainstream narrative is a lie. But what's real? Who knows. So then wtf are we gonna fix.
Dawg, you still being manipulated by someone. You gonna read or ingest information somewhere and your brain will form opinions based on that information. If they can infiltrate that information then they can influence your opinions, and nobody really knows too much about their operations or what they have their hands in.
@@MasteIsIllmatic ya know, as much as I want to disagree and say it’s wrong it is the truth. Just wish there was maybe a little bit more moral oversight and essential “reigning in of the dogs” to stop the unknowing population being effected you know? Any alphabet boi/agency is going to do something bad whether they planned it or not, but I do believe some of these people need to be held for their actions
I mean think about it: If something is seen as crazy, out there, or ridiculous, psychologically most people won't want to associate with it for fear of looking more ridiculous than is the social norm. Nobody wants to be ostracized
@@Arythmatix 95% of the comments have their fat asses sticking out the top of the rabbit hole. Idiots calling real skeptics idiots and saying “this guy is lying about everything, vaccines yada yada, brainwashing yada yada, something something JEWWWWSSSS, don’t read books!!!” It’s just sad.
I love how quickly everyone caught on to the truth and straight up called this guy out lmao 🤣 it’s hilarious and also awesome to see everyone completely aware of the truth
B T paid agent, thats why they banned him on everything. Thats why he exposes them every change he gets. This know more news channel that you told me about in another comment supports him. So wtf are you even talking about. Come with some facts on what Icke is wrong about then.
B T he’s not with him, thats why he has him on as a guest and supports his book heavily. I don’t believe in Q and certainly am not looking for trump to save me. We can only save ourself by reaching a higher consciousness from within.
I hate it Here it’s mid to upper management at these agencies...Kiki’s own supervisor in Mexico was taking bribe money and didn’t testify against his killers in federal court. Thing you’re thinking about was Eric Holder AG under Obama’s first term ordering the ATF to allow assault rifles to flood into Mexican drug cartels...one which later killed a border patrol agent Brian Terry
I hate it Here DEA agents years ago tried to go to Afghanistan and set up there...some agents “crashed” into the side of a mountain and haven’t been back since
I hate it Here Bush Sr and Clinton were buddies...Bill visited Bush Sr on his death bed down in Houston right before he died. Political parties don’t mean shit...corruption doesn’t start and end with either republicans or Democrats
I can remember hiding under our desks even during the lated 70's when I was in kindergarten. I went to a different town halfway through kindergarten and they didn't bother doing that stuff
The gentleman from the CIA is a real CIA operative. Ducking questions and still giving the impression that he is disclosing the whole truth while in fact saying nothing. Congrats.
I dont know why Joe invites that guy onto his show, its like he's making crap up to make the CIA look like a loving organization.
It's an art
Don't Forget Joe also Offered himself up to the CIA to become a SHILL inorder to learn what they know about E.Ts I really liked Joe till he started doing that ND then he started getting more publicity for many controversial topics of discussion but I can never let that go because it's really hard to figure out if he did become a SHILL for the CIA to be used for Psyop missions or Not?
@@samhema620 after that most of the ET episodes stopped
@@CM-qi1xs cause their not aliens
No such thing as “former” CIA agent.
Why that ain't the truth.
😵
Pretty obvious. This guy does not seem to say anything genuine at all.
Sure there is. Only thing is that you have to die to become one
Facts, I always laugh when a "former" intelligence officer is treated like an honest human being
Mk ultra didn't stopped at 64', it still continues in the music industry and others
It's moved on to biological weapons, look at what has happened in the UK with Russia as well as COVID.
because you would know 😂
Absolutely! They perfected how to completely control people's lives.
@@cxnt.2861 We all should know! Look into scopolamine. Scary shit!
Look up targeted individuals, they are modern day mkultra test subjects
I've met used car salesmen that were more straightforward and honest.
Speaking articulately without saying anything is an art
I agree he's not saying anything but does he have a responsibility to? Can he not just be one of Joe's podcast buds who happens to be "ex" CIA?
bingo! you said it
And Obongo is the massa of it!!!
Politicians disease !
i agree
My father was tested on during vietnam. He and his buddies were told they could sign up for “ weapons testing” to get some time out of the jungle and so he did it. They ended up locking them in a gym for a week didnt allow them to sleep and gave them glasses of water that were dosed with “ BZ (unidentified chemical) LSD and a third unnamed unidentified chemical.” After dosing they were given tasks to complete and radar screens to look at and tested interrogation techniques on them. My father years later sent a foi request to try to find out what the other two chemicals were because of cancer and other things he thinks came from that or the agent orange and the govt sent a letter back saying basically “ when u signed up for the weapons test you signed a document stating you would never request this information.” Its insane that this shit is real
Ps those hookers obviously got disappeared. Thats why they use throwaway people. Every single time.
The chemicals given were probably LSD to spark thought and the other chemicals were inhibitors of memory, like a chemical lobotomy so that all that is remembered is what they were told while on the LSD which is the basis of mk ultra mental programming
Yeah bro I 100% believe u
Probably shouldn't have went to another country to burn down villages then I guess.
What they Did to Your Father is absolutely Repugnant !!
It's Violation of the Nuremberg Code just like forced Vaccinations !! Agent Orange was eventually exposed .. Just like PTSD .. These so called world leaders who Are in Violation of the Nuremberg Code ..
Once an agent, always an agent.
They've been subtely noggin rinsed to say alot but say nothing of issue.
Any time you hear the phrase.."retired navy seal" they are talking about a current CIA field agent.
Seals got them loose lips. They can’t become cia lol
This guy’s family at the dinner table don’t even believe him.
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And if they do, they’ll never tell.......
But i’m sure his family isn’t disappointed by what the agency pays this ‘former disinfo/misinfo agent’.
Mike "I never actually answer a question" Baker
@Brad Fuller I wonder if people get training to be able to speak that much while saying nothing, or if that's a skill that some people just naturally have, that makes them suitable for government work.
@@scottcantdance804 you think? You think the CIA doesn't train people in the art of bald faced lying?
@@lockandreload No, I'm sure they do, along with training people how to resist questioning and all that other stuff.
More broadly, I'm wondering where the skill itself comes from. Like has this guy always been able to talk like this to one degree or another, or did he learn all of it while working for the CIA?
I asked it that way because my question goes beyond just the CIA, and covers any type of career politician as well.
Yeah, no way Mike would or could answer this question honestly. Unless he wanted to go on a permanent vacation. Lol
God Bless Corporate Intelligence
Feels like MK Ultra is in full swing right now 😬
Yeah, no shit
Everyone always talks about the drug side of MKU but nobody talks about the other half of MKU that is still classified to this very day that dealt with Radio Frequencies.
What happened???
I'm intrested
You a freemason r what
or*
It's still classified because it worked.
A world-class lesson on how to talk about a very sensitive subject, for over 20 minutes and not say anything secret. Once a spy always a spy. Class act.
Fluffy questions get Fluffy answers, makes you think what Joe's intentions are
Not really
Lol 😂 something you grow in family where you learn to be like this for life or forever rolling or plotting lol or playing life game or something else lol lord lord bless lord lord never trust no one but your Doberman pincher love love Doberman pincher love you love love y’all love you love love you daddy love love y’all love love you 😍 😅🎉😂❤😢😅❤😅❤
And an fyi most CIA agents get killed for saying any truth, you think there wasn’t a cia group watching this show waiting for one thing to be said then boom cut the stream and power to joes building wait for Mike to leave the building and once he is in his car make him disappear
Not say anything about anything.
What a circle talker.
Lots of body language inflection drama.
Total spook.
Yeah this dude was clearly ex-cia. Dances around every question he's asked.
I went straight to the comment section hoping someone would say this.
@@djtekitizi the problem is that he only talks about things you can freely find on the internet and most of it is also incorrect which I believe he is doing on purpose. Put that all together anf it makes this interview full of shit.
Honestly, his body language and his stuttering and running and ahhing comes off more like he's uncomfortable talking about this stuff. When he's talking about subjects he's passionate and well informed, he doesn't do that. If I had to guess, I'd say he just doesn't really know much. I mean, think about it. If he was as well practiced at lying, would he be showing signs of discomfort? I wouldn't be surprised if he was way lower on the totem poll then people think.
@@stevedasbru spot on. The guy doesnt know much if anything
@@BooYaa253deffinitely. it honestly makes me doubt conspiracies. I mean either you gotta do mental gymnastics to make sense of the "he's a misinformant" theory, which at that point is just confirmation bias, or just treat him the way he presents himself, as just a fairly normal dude who worked for a government organisation. Not all that crazy when you think about it like that.
This guy is expert in answering a question without answering
He'd make a great press secretary for the Biden white house
CIA needs to be shut down.
Midnight climax sounds like a cooler way to say wet dream
Sounds way more literal to me... like you’re literally climaxing.... in the middle of the night
😂
@@sharktiff1 ya moms did
Lmfaooo ive never had a wet dream. Are they real?
I like nocturnal bust personally lol
Mike “ I talk a lot but don’t actually say anything” Baker
I guess that was what his job was all about since the beginning
He doesn't have time to say anything with Joe constantly interrupting!
Of course he is not gonna say anything
Man it seems like some people were watching a different video. The guy explains the cold war context, how it was funded through cutouts, talks about the lack of understanding of psychoactive drugs at the time, and says after the program was over almost all the files were destroyed. That seems like it would be the limit of his knowledge of a code word classified program that ended when he was 3 y/o. I mean what are you guys expecting? Him to admit he's a trained assassin through the art of hypnosis and LSD? This guy was probably a case officer out of an embassy who played detective in a foreign country. I doubt he would be on JRE if he was in a black ops unit or some other code worded program.
@@JohnDoe69986 I love all the knowledge and facts these detectives have on social media platforms so they can accuse people of being shills liars operatives and distractions
My father was a victim of the MkUltra program. He was a helicopter pilot in the US Army who was admitted to a VA hospital after falling off the wing of an airplane while refuelling it... supposedly... That was not his job and he would have had no business performing such. After 18 months in hospital he came out a completely different person. He had been transformed into the perfect soldier, gun-ho and completely willing to throw himself into whatever suicidal task was presented to him, even after leaving his official military position, but a totally dysfunctional and violent alcoholic on civy street. He spent the 60s and 70s in Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, Malawi, Rhodesia, Mozambique, and virtually every other 3rd world hellscape imaginable, flying choppers as a much sought after mercenary known in relevant circles as "The Maintenance Man". I never knew him. He was never around. He met his end in 1985, when while working as a carpenter, he fell off the scaffolding after suffering a heart attack... alone... with nobody to call 911 or take him to the emergency room... supposedly... There are no witnesses to confirm or deny the official record.
Sorry for your situation and how these incidents strongly affected your fathers ability to be a soldier as opposed to a father. My thoughts are with you my G❤️
Yeah that was definitely no accident. Tying up loose ends and liabilities so there’s no witnesses or proof and they claim plausible deniability smh evil
wow i’m so sorry… sending love
MKULTRA programming is more prevalent than ever. They just changed the name (Project Monarch). It was not disbanded and countless Americans and many celebrities have been subjected to it. It's imagery can be seen throughout movies, TV and music videos which are intended to trigger programming.
I know. Every time I watch Lizard Lick Towing I have the urge to assassinate the prime minister of a foreign nation. Not sure which one, though.
Yeah they figured out how to shape and control society without chemicals, kinda genius. Most in the USA are too busy fighting left vs right to realise its them vs the govt.
Yeah I heard the M in MK was for monarch also reference to the butterfly because it has some innate directional instinct to fly to the same place annually. So I guess they figure if people have all seen the same "programming" they will all respond the same also? Some nostalgia perhaps? Obviously some people are more susceptible to suggestion than others though.
This guy would be a good politician, constantly meandering and never actually saying anything noteworthy
With his background he has to be careful about what he says. He has signed legally binding NDAs about his experiences/knowledge.
Reminds me of a line from RDR2 "I swear he talked the whole way but didn't say a goddamn thing"
@@Spookie425 Correct.
@Cocaine Cowboy lay off the meth dude
If he has legally binding nda's then nothing he says can be true. But he's out saying things anyway. Do the math
Does anyone else find it difficult to take what a "former" CIA Agent says seriously? These guys are the best manipulators in the world, EVERYTHING is a con with them. I feel like I'm being mind-fucked every time I hear one speak!
Well and comments like that make any former CIA agent hesitant to come forward. I find it difficult to take what anybody says these days.
All of these interviews with them are the same. They are pro at talking for hours and saying nothing new or that isn't already public knowledge. It's like they all took a class on talking in circles. Lol
Cursing is a sin
@@dangbro2589 , actually it's not really, as long as you're not cursing the Lord or using his name in vain. Besides, you can't be all THAT worried about it if you're watching Rogan's podcasts. That guy curses like a drunken sailor!
I think it’s crazy how they always assign current agents to the deathbed of former agents, so they don’t give any deathbed confessions… stupid CIA
He is slow slick with answers. Much respect, he gets a direct question but side steps it and answers another question without taking a breath, an Joe may or may not notice. Love this.
The very fact that Joe even has this liar on his show is evidence that Joe is complicit with all this. No surprise.
This stuff does absolutely happen. I've seen similar things, not quite on this level, happen in my home town. Being in the dope game you see a lot of things that others dont
You a end user 😂😂
@@crichey56 I have definitely been know to be a user. However I've also seen first hand how the feds and city police work while investigating the dope game and what happens when the FBI comes to town when somebody in the game dies.
@@ryanmckee6971 yeah me too, just kidding man 👍👍
Mk ultra was 100 % successful
I wrote a paper on the MK-ULTRA project. All of what he is saying is publicly available, and it's not that hard to find. So maybe he's trying to inform the lay man, but he has provided nothing more than publicly available information. He's really just dancing around/trying to remember what's publicly available and what's not.
I mean they have a gun with dissolving bullets that makes it look like you have a heart attack if i was a glow i would be towing that line like a tightrope unicyclist too
That’s probably because he doesn’t know anything else that’s not public knowledge. Just because he worked for this govt agency, does not mean he’s aware of all their secrets. That’s a stupid assumption.
Just hop on wikipedia and follow the trail.
@@ScoutSniper1990 do you ever think the Cia lays the Wikipedia trail etc to pull you away from the real conspiracies?
@@ScoutSniper1990 or maybe that's what the Roman's want you to think, that's why the secret underground mole people posted the yuri wiki article
He's not talking like a "Former" Agent he's talking in circles
Everytime CIA guy says “RIGHTTTT?” take a drink for catching him dodging the truth or illustrating deniability
I like how he just deflects and tries to justify these studies. 😂😂😂
“Midnight Climax” sounds like the worst action movie never made by Michael Scott of The Office
Or the best porno ever
I hear there’s a sequel called “The Island”
Isn't the sequel to operation midnight?
@StormShadowGhost you took LSD with a bunch of hookers on camera? Sick
If it has Pam in it, it could be pretty good.
He is a master at saying nothing and talking two hours..
Almost like he worked in security or something xD
Literally pay attention its not that difficult
He's trying to downplay it, and it's a huge human rights crime. The CIA was not ALLOWED to "defensively" test ANYTHING on us.
This is another interview where I think Joe could tell us more info is less time in a more entertaining manner.
Was thinking the same thing. Once a "spook" always a spook
The CIA didn't do JFK, it was just regular work place violence after Dulles got fired 🤣
This dude is being very careful with his answers
"This was clearly off the rails." A perfect summary of the entire history of the CIA.
And it just keeps getting worse honestly… creepy
Thank-you!!
@@estellepatella2520 and exsistence
Wouldn't be surprised if the CIA stuck a smelling device in my bed to test my farts to see if I was taking my meds or not 🤣
Underrated comment 💯
Former CIA Agent speaks fluent "Double Speak".....
1984
👉👉Watch Mike Pompeo BRAG about how he and other CIA agents learned to lie, and did it frequently, as if its a game! These LITERAL "deep state" intelligence and covert military departments are guilty of things RIGHT NOW that make MK ULTRA look tame by comparison! 😖
✔They figured out mind control a while ago, and they can remotely torture people, influence their thoughts, put them to sleep instantly, cause ANY type of pain imaginable, and they are testing it on US citizens NOW! 👎😡👎
@@HighlanderNorth1 Directed frequency weapons which are rumored to now be remotely directed from satellite to name one.
@@HighlanderNorth1 source please?
@@irenegunderson5809
Yep, th-cam.com/video/qfrhATD4nM0/w-d-xo.html
Imagine How Many Operations Were Successfully Purged From History
The Interview was rolling along pretty good... then when the hard questions come, ah, um, aaa, bbbb.... carefull what you say Mr. CIA. lol.
"Former"
No such thing. What you're witnessing is a cia employee engaging in PR work for the biggest criminal organization to have ever existed.
I thought about it.. But to see evolution difference
Ding ding ding
Wtfe.
Agreed. There is no way that the CIA could let someone be an "ex". Just like the nuclear scientists, they would, at the least, be dropped in on, surveiled, interrogated, threatened, coerced, etc. or just kept on the payroll and used for controlled opposition.
Gestapo they idolize
"Could this be used against Americans" Lets use this against Americans and find out.
Welcome to the United States government.
Oof
It WAS used against Americans by the USSR. In the last days of WWII America ended up with most of the technical documents while the USSR got most of the psy-ops documents including effective brain washing techniques and were using them on political opponents and POW's alike. The CIA was trying to bring that gap by researching from the ground up got cleared to do it by any means necessary. I cant stress enough how heinous their actions were but understand how crazy the situation was. Russia brain wash a fucking arch bishop and put him on national radio in a full cathedral and for him to admit to murdering babies and leading a treasonous, anti-communism terrorist organization like it was nothing just to push out the church and solidify their power base like any other tyrannical government. Unlike other tyrants, they had a massive nuclear arsenal and one of the largest populations on earth. "The Men Who Stare at Goats" looks into the far more ethical army version of the MK Ultra program and how that evolved into the horrible privatized armies of today.
@@notchomomma239
Imagine believing the USSR brainwashing propaganda LOL. What a dummy you are. Russia got us to attack our own people based on nothing but speculation.
@@cezerelecrucio9717 is called "history." When you don't believe something, some people will Google it just to verify they're not about to post a dumb comment while others will blurt out whatever comes to mind no matter how dumb it is... did you look before you leaped? Of course you didn't, that would require effort. One last concept tho, the USSR doesn't exist anymore so I'm talk about history, not current events. Prussia didn't kill your dog anymore than Rome killed your cousin.
Haha his cryptic answering is so fed
Highly recommend Tom O’Neil’s book Chaos, fantastic book.
‘Former CIA agent’ equals Disinfo/misinfo agent, nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly
Mmm they do a bit more than just disinformation
@@sic308941 Yes. they murder people.
Is that why mainstream media news outlets hire them?
@@Danny-hj2qg yes-the mainstream media is propaganda, not news facts.
You can NEVER trust someone who has been employed by the CIA.
There are a couple that are trustworthy like Ray McGovern and Phil Giraldi but they mainly talk antiwar issues
Ikr, always in the back of your mind you thinkin' what kind of shady or even fucked up shit he's done workin' for the CIA. Messed up man, but hey one or the other you chose that path. Unfair or not.
I'd rather trust a stranger than a government employee...
Every person in this comment thread needs to get a reality check, jesus christ.
@Bif Webster You got credible sources?
Working for CIA in the 60s musta been wild
Mike really struggled through this and what he was allowed to say
I want everything this guy says fact checked by Eddie Bravo.
Look it up
whats so far fetched about mind control? look around.
@@-Siculus-Hort- Subliminal mind control ,
You don’t know your being controlled . Because idk but I like fortnite
Ur joke went over alot of peoples heads it seems
Dude would explode talking to Eddie 🤣
Let Edward Snowden interview this guy with Joe regulating!
TOP!
underrated post
Id pay to see that
Unfortunately that would end with the assassination of Snowden.
@@martingautreau5583 Snowden's controlled opposition
I’ve met a few select individuals in my lifetime who are familiar with and practice the art of saying everything while saying nothing . . . .none however have reached this man’s level. Peak bs-ing. 👌🏼
Good stuff
Dude sounds like a salesman. I don't trust em
You’re
from the south aren’t you...
You don’t trust the CIA man? Wha?
I don't trust him either. I think he's a snake in the grass.
Idk why he keeps coming on. He’s a liar. Never has any real info to talk about. Just dodges the tough questions.
@@jamesgannon7093 come on give him a lil credit, I'm sure he signed a Ndc... He's trying his best to not get sued
this guy says so much yet still so little lmao bunch of none answers what a waste of time
Would have been more interesting to see his pre false flag mission meeting before he went to JRE
But when someone like Eddie tells the truth yall call him stupid. Pick a side you npc.
Greatomeister ??? who called him stupid? stop picking fights with strangers lmao
That was my initial impression too, but he did say at the end that he thought Manson got his LSD from the clinic that was sponsored by the CIA.
Manson was a pimp prior to his incarceration. It’s not unreasonable to assume that he learned mind control through some CIA experiment and was able to take his pimp game to a whole new level.
He doesn't give "background info". He just gives a synopsis of O'Neil's book
Jolly West also Evaluated
Jack Ruby.
*So what are your thoughts on MK Ultra?*
“Well when we go back to the stone age and we look at the first humans creating fire...”
😅😅😅
What??
He never mentions that they were also using the hookers & LSD to set people up for blackmailing. I know someone that was involved, unwillingly. This 'retired' CIA dude is a joke.
@@Canzandridas Agreed, and Joe is helping him all the way.
@TraumaFree TV I agree on all stated. I know some of the people you mention, but you just gave me some new names. Thanks. Noted and I'll be looking into them. I found the daughter to the madam online. She's sharing all kinds of first hand information, plenty of documentation too, photos, etc. I personally think Zuckerberg, Musk and some others have been through a MKUltra type program. Do you know about the Sabbatean-Frankists?
Remember guys; projects don't end - they become new projects based on what was learned in the first
MK-Ultra as a program finished - the activity continues to this day
Absolute fact.
Geral sosbee FBI Whistleblower
Richard lighthouse NASA whistleblower
Ted gunderson FBI whistleblower
All countries have targeted individuals being experimented and tested with direct energy weapons like voice of god weapon and dream manipulation technology
Some are born into the program some were protestors, direct energy weapons can be done remotely. Existed since the 50s that’s where the tinfoil “joke” came from it’s recently being recognized as Havana Syndrome
I always say the same thing about Project Stargate. They've just switched the topic to astral projection and remote viewing. The Cold War never ended; it's just gotten advanced enough to where most people don't even see it.
the fact that we know about mk ultra is proof that it was a huge failure
Please note that MK Ultra is still in effrect, but in a digital version. Be aware!
Such a great one.
feels like i got clickbaited hard.
the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
@ayman El attar salvation yankee arnold 4 mins youtube
@ayman El attar troll much?
You forgot the quotes "Nik-plagerist"
KEISER SOZE
That was also Mr Gold’s greatest con
Midnight climax sounds like something I wouldn't mind participating in
Yep we practiced those drills in grade school in the late 50's, early 60's in San Diego,Ca.CA.. 🐸
This is one Shady dude who I guarantee he has done a lot of devious shit.
that's a given!
...or can do like if he had done some things, but can never affirm it.
You are a misinformation FBI agent!!!
@@bidenadministrationischina5091 and you are off of your medication. LOL !!!
@@wyattblackwood3927 I'm taking my oxy right now thanks buddy!
“MK ULTRA ended in ‘64 ... officially”
I was in the exact point in the video and 2 secs later i read your comment xD
“Are any of those girls alive?”
“Uhhhhhh👀”
Once CIA always CIA.
This guy's clearly still getting checks.
Either that or he is a true believer and buys into his own BS
Of course he is..it's called a retirement pension lol
*Cheque. Ffs
I have no idea why joe let this serial bullshit artist on his show this many times, thought he knew better.
My FBI agent wants those paychecks coming. Says things are getting tough, “bruther!”
This mans waitress never leaves cuz she doesn’t believe the order he gave her
LOL
I actually laughed out loud. Anyone who doesnt either is an idiot and doesnt get it or souless. If your reading this did u laugh?
I am
Best line in the f*ckin’ world!
@@anthonywandowicz8084 nah I get it but it’s not that clever it’s kind of an obvious joke.
Everytime he says “ I’m sure everyone knows this but for those that don’t” take a shot 😂 this guy really gave no information or even a single cool story while talking non stop about nothing at all
He definitely read up on what was publicly available before talking on the show here lol
And what's more likely is that while he was in the CIA he wasn't very aware of all this stuff going on and is just using his ex CIA employment to get legitimacy so he can talk shit and make some money. Most CIA projects are all kept separate to avoid leaks and most employees don't know what the others are doing in their projects or if there even IS a project
He never brought anything new to the table he just talked about stuff you can find yourself online
Basically around 9:35 they're describing Bill Haders character from Pineapple Express in the into, kicking back smoking a cigarette watching someone smoke weed 😅
The fact MKUltra can still be mentioned and not immediately condemned still blows my mind. Those people should have been arrested
Absolutely. This interview makes it seem like they were just given some acid and observed. There were children tortured to break their personalities and create mulitples. They used extreme trauma with these kids to do this. One of the darkest stains on history of our country.
There's no evidence. The CIA destroyed all of the damning evidence. You can't arrest the people who worked on this on conjecture.
@@SirPhilMcCrackinVonBeggington 1984
The CIA literally condemns it? That's not the issue, everyone does. He is explaining why the CIA was doing it at the time, it's not justifying it.
@@LetsGoGetThem I hear you I just think it's rare that someone expresses outrage over the fact those doctors and Intel agents got off scot-free. And most people have never heard of MK-ULTRA. The government is obviously trying to conceal it as best as they can from the mind of the public. I'm just angry that no one was held accountable for those very real human rights violations.
He's only allowed to talk about what it is already public knowledge. There's also confidential information that even most CIA agents aren't allowed to know. If he knew something that was classified, it would be really stupid for him to talk about it on the biggest podcast in the world. Big ups to Mike Baker for having to courage to come on the show, I'd be worried about letting something slip that would cause my house to have a mysterious gas leak.
Cia ops are compartmentalized. He wasn't on these ops, so he don't know shit about them. But he marginalized and deflects as some sort of denial that these abuses could've ever happenned. He's a Cia pr hack.
There is no need to destroy assets when they can just be institutionalized as schizophrenic or dismissed as part of the conspiracy theorist smokescreen.
@@larrywheels762 when did he ever act like these things didn’t happen?
You all know so much about this wow are you all Jason Bourne?🙄
CIA agent provides cover for government crimes, uses public info to pretend like he is saying something and you say big ups... good god.
“volunteers” even he thought that was a little funny
A CIA agent once told me that when people retire, and if they want to write a book about their experiences, it has to be wtitten as fiction.
"Former" CIA, right...
E
Mkultra didn't go away.
Worst weapon known to man sir. You are right.
Nope, They finished it...And now its in use
This is the funniest Joe Rogan video clip
😂 😆 th-cam.com/video/yVcd6YbSgBA/w-d-xo.html
@@th3grizzlygam3r worse than the nuclear bomb? Doubtful.
@@TheKhashix actually sir, not physically no but with how well it's worked consistently and psychologically, far worse.
Joe’s like… yr my fish and yr on my hook!!
Once a FED... ALWAYS A FED!!!
This guy is a paid shill. Thats why he immediately brought up, shortcomings, and couldn't draw conclusions. He's just covering.
@B T yep. Which is why I watch his shows not for his opinion, but to see if the person he's interviewing is legit. Most of the time it's not.
Yeah, I wonder if he even read the book. The book had a few shortcomings, but a lot of stuff that really makes you question the real motives. He didn't even talk about Jolly West and David West, Completely jumped over the Haight Ashbury clinic. Joe should've brought of Reeve Witson.
@B T its a form of digital media, so you're right. Too open for manipulation, and misinformation.
@@Squash101 he read it, with a biased perception, so he just wasted his time.
100% I was literally about to say - Gotta love it when Joe, possible CIA operative, Rogan brings Shills on to push an agenda saying that our gov. intelligence agencies were just a couple of goofy creepy dudes who liked to jerk off while watching people fuck prostitutes on lsd... and definitely NOT committing horrible atrocities on adults and children using extreme torture & drug use to see how they could break the human psyche into multiple pieces for mind controls purposes & military intelligence.... It definitely wasn’t that at all... 😒😒😒
Im sure body language experts would have a field day with this guy.
Yeah he looks like he could be put in the stockades, without moving him. Fitting
"body language experts" have been thoroughly debunked by real science, and you still pay for FBI training in it... Its literally just some dude giving an opinion... lmfao
hahaha...when Joe mentions Allan Dulles and JFK he squirms in his seat like a mother plucker
Bugger was squirming with being uncomfortable, throughout!
@@nomasnofuss8393 Dulles is his daddy
That is crazy. Never would of known
I thought I got a message halfway through the podcast 😂
What this guy doesn't want you to know is that MK Ultra is still going on ;)
I dunno I think they got a lot of success with mind control with television and phones. Go on a bus, train, or walk downtown the street and see how many people and controlled by their phones
@@bonpaoi4736
No.
@@JJWalters thats not control thats distraction. They still literally control certain people to do their bidding.
@@bonpaoi4736 wtf....did I miss something?
I like the way he insulted the author of that mkultra when he began talking about it.
You will get more decisive answers from a magic 8 ball.
Good one 😅
Answer hazy. Check back later.
Touché 👍🏻😂
Right????
Funny. Definitely applies here.
It makes me so happy to know this subject matter is becoming well known
An episode about Maury Terry and his research an work on the son of sam murders would be interesting
Lot of people NOT being fooled anymore by the look of these comments....good.
very good
@Տςհաҽҽժվ ᏖᎧᎴᎴ like what? 😂 it’s human nature. We will replace them and then fear will cause us to create another CIA . You gotta oppress the poor and undesirables and do dirt to spy on your enemies .
Good, but bad. As citizens, we cant fix problems that we dont know exist yet. All we know is the mainstream narrative is a lie. But what's real? Who knows. So then wtf are we gonna fix.
Dawg, you still being manipulated by someone. You gonna read or ingest information somewhere and your brain will form opinions based on that information. If they can infiltrate that information then they can influence your opinions, and nobody really knows too much about their operations or what they have their hands in.
@@MasteIsIllmatic ya know, as much as I want to disagree and say it’s wrong it is the truth. Just wish there was maybe a little bit more moral oversight and essential “reigning in of the dogs” to stop the unknowing population being effected you know? Any alphabet boi/agency is going to do something bad whether they planned it or not, but I do believe some of these people need to be held for their actions
Mike accusing the CIA of using cheap hookers then chuckling about it is the most telling part of this interview
Pro life tip; there is no such thing as former CIA.
notice how often he stumbles and stutters, his brain is almost setting smoke. 😂
He literally shuffled as soon as midnight climax was mentioned
@@msscotian4209 Damn... I noticed that too - his uncomfortable squirming was HARD TO MISS!
@@msscotian4209 “it’s interesting how many people are aware of th-“
Dude sweeps his house every time he gets home
This guy brings the official narrative
He must be Joes handler
@Mi Scuzzi damn thats a good one
@Mi Scuzzi wow... that also raises eyebrows about the robot voice they had. "The joe rogan experience."
"Yeah yeah stick to chimps and monkeys and MMA. I'll fold you if you dive in to any of my coassified crap."
He is.
@Mi Scuzzi the british chick activates him..
Such a joke. Tom proved with documents. The way he laughs at everything and try’s not to take it serious is a weird denial tactic.
I mean think about it: If something is seen as crazy, out there, or ridiculous, psychologically most people won't want to associate with it for fear of looking more ridiculous than is the social norm. Nobody wants to be ostracized
You have to remember who created the term conspiracy theorist as well...
The CIA coined the phrase "conspiracy theorist" after JFK's assassination.. FYI
@@schylerjohnson9216 the term was first used all the way back in the 1870’s. I think you fell too far down the rabbit hole lol......
@@Arythmatix 95% of the comments have their fat asses sticking out the top of the rabbit hole. Idiots calling real skeptics idiots and saying “this guy is lying about everything, vaccines yada yada, brainwashing yada yada, something something JEWWWWSSSS, don’t read books!!!”
It’s just sad.
Thanks JR.. how long did it take to shovel out all the 🐂💩
I love how quickly everyone caught on to the truth and straight up called this guy out lmao 🤣 it’s hilarious and also awesome to see everyone completely aware of the truth
The evil in this world breaks my heart and always will. Live honorably.
It's good that it breaks your heart, even if it hurts. It shows you are still human.
I think we can expect the CIA guy isn't going to admit he is working for a criminal organization.
He is like dancing around the topics without revealing anything too deep. CIA agents are indeed very slippery.
Let's get Alex on with Mike and see how that goes
Lets get icke on with anyone who goes against him. See how that goes
B T paid agent, thats why they banned him on everything. Thats why he exposes them every change he gets. This know more news channel that you told me about in another comment supports him. So wtf are you even talking about. Come with some facts on what Icke is wrong about then.
B T he’s not with him, thats why he has him on as a guest and supports his book heavily. I don’t believe in Q and certainly am not looking for trump to save me. We can only save ourself by reaching a higher consciousness from within.
@B T you are the real shill here.
that would be a disaster waiting to happen
"This was happening in the early 50s, mid 50s, early 60s."
And nothing happened again, ever.
Well the CIA had a DEA agent “Kiki” kidnapped, tortured and killed...watch “the last narc” on Amazon prime
I hate it Here it’s mid to upper management at these agencies...Kiki’s own supervisor in Mexico was taking bribe money and didn’t testify against his killers in federal court. Thing you’re thinking about was Eric Holder AG under Obama’s first term ordering the ATF to allow assault rifles to flood into Mexican drug cartels...one which later killed a border patrol agent Brian Terry
I hate it Here DEA agents years ago tried to go to Afghanistan and set up there...some agents “crashed” into the side of a mountain and haven’t been back since
I hate it Here Bush Sr and Clinton were buddies...Bill visited Bush Sr on his death bed down in Houston right before he died. Political parties don’t mean shit...corruption doesn’t start and end with either republicans or Democrats
I can remember hiding under our desks even during the lated 70's when I was in kindergarten.
I went to a different town halfway through kindergarten and they didn't bother doing that stuff
"magicians art" sounds like a vague way of saying "mastering the art of deception"
Just when you think questioning a CIA guy about MK Ultra would be interesting. Then this guy comes along 🤦♂️
My FBI agent
•cries in creep•