The Last Stand of Legends of Runeterra
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0:00 Intro
1:36 Dev Talk
9:01 FaQ
16:56 Reddit Dev Posts - เกม
Even the great Snnuy is not that shiny after these news... We truly live in a dark times now
man the streaming/youtube community is almost dead now isnt it? I know snnuy said he will try POC but i dont think that would last very long
@@Zetsubou-69420 Snnuy plays a lot of PoC, he loves it. Sadly, PoC is not as fun to watch in terms of streaming as pvp, so it's not very good for money incoming for creators
@@Anegor I meant everyday, he posts everyday and he even said in his last stream that it might be weird to do POC everyday
pretty much all of the big namesare leaving it's sad times
I am a genshin/gacha player, but still watching lor become a pve gacha has to be the darkest timeline
Silco may not be a character that fits the Summoner's Rift, but Legends of Runeterra? As a final boss of an Arcane themed Path of Champions? Unfortunately he won't be around much in season 2
Silco died didnt he
@@ehrman9478 It's highly speculated that he becomes Warwick, and based on the body hanging over Singed in the S2 Arcane teaser, it looks like Riot is at the very least nodding that this is a plausible theory that Silco gets reincarnated.
@@ph1lny3no it is not speculated that silco becomes Warwick that is vander your thinking of
Silco was in development though. In fact, Renata took his place for one reason or another. And with her moveset, I can see him being part of a League.
@@ph1lny3 Didnt Warwick was shown before Silco died?
3:42 to put some numbers on "vast majority" There was a point in time where 80% of the players were playing PoC over every other gamemode in runterra combined
I wouldn't be too surprised if that number came during one of the lingering dead metas.
Yeah I never played the PVP mode on LoR because of how absolutely frustrating it was going against players and the wealth of absolutely irritating dog shit decks everyone was using because of how effective they were. PvE mode was always the go to for me because it let me have fun with the cards and the decks I could play around with.
Yeah, you know it's bad when people talk more about the cards art than the actual game.
genuine question, does that number represent the players that only play PoC, or does it include players that play both PvP and PoC?
@@dungeondice2331 includes both pvp and poc players
Foe me LOR was the first CCG I was heavily invested in,.I still remember the first day I booted it up, It was a magical journey to build all the fun decks around my beloved Undying and try to make it work. I was not delusional, I knew that the LOR as I have played it is basically in deathbed. But.... it still hurts.
We still got another year to make it count
Year?, he have this expansion and it's over.@@Plight_
I have been saying for years that the Riot MMO should have the option to play Legends of Runeterra with NPCs and other characters, similar to how you can challenge NPCs to a game of Gwent in The Witcher 3. This would keep the game alive and fulfill their goal to connect their games imo
It would also add a crazy deep minigame/collection game within the mmo
It exists in The Elder Scrolls Online, just like WoW has pokemon battles lol 😊
I love those kind of side gameplays in an MMO. I hope they'll do that (and we could link our accounts) but it is rather unlikely to happen 😅
@@phonybolony4153every enemy has a 1% chance to drop a card harder enemies drop rarer cards
Buddy, by the time the MMO comes out, LoR might as well be dead. I don't know how long Path of Champions can keep Legends of Runeterra afloat for, but there's absolutely no way the MMO is ready to be released or whether the devs can even incorporate LoR as a game mode into the darn MMO.
Reading between the lines a little bit - there's a huge technical challenge with LoR that's hard to even encapsulate. It was their first cross-platform game, their first mobile game, and the only League IP game they've ever made that doesn't utilize existing assets. It has a bespoke client, a bespoke engine, a bespoke monetization policy, and it has and has had to enact all three of those challenges on three platforms - iOS, Android, and PC - which are wildly different in architecture, enforcement, and standardization.
They were counting on their core business model working, and they tried to let it solidify for a long time. When it didn't, it created a crisis - do we revamp the core business model to work? If so, how much money will it cost to rewrite the game to work that way? How will we translate existing investments? How long will it take to implement? How much money will we lose while we rewrite it? How many ways can we explore wiring in new monetization options into its current context, and, how likely are they to succeed?
It sucks, but it seems like the game they made - the client, the core interactions, everything - wasn't robust enough to handle incremental changes to its monetary policy, which is the entire reason Path of Champions exists. It's functionally a separate game, it even launches into something that feels like a different client. In this new space, they can iterate and explore and experiment without corrupting or modifying anything extant in the old space. I can think of 30 or 40 ways they can monetize existing stuff in LoR by reusing content PoC, and most of them aren't even predatory or shitty. Just a shame that there's no way forward for the core PvP game, which was such a blast to consume as a viewer. I mean, I spent hundreds of hours watching LoR creators, who are some of the best online people.
There's an interview with Eric Shen from the video, and what you said is on point. The problem, though, is that "LoR is very memory intensive". It was their excuse for not even having stuff like animated card backs, fancier borders, or animated skins. When asked about skins for non-champions, the reply was that "skins are coded for champions and cards that are directly related to them." I'm not a coder or game developer, but it doesn't add up to me, so it sounds like there was way too much tech debt that was never properly addressed.
There was also other stuff that was alluded to, process wise. It just sounded like the entire creative process was incredibly slow and inefficient.
I think opening some ideas to the public for different pvp options could really help pvp
Magic The Gathering survives off of people making new modes that wizards hasn't ruined yet and didn't make themselves (plus collecting now I guess and draft)
I will play this game even if I am the last player
me and you brother
y’all won’t wait much longer 😂
I just hit masters after playing for 6 months I had no clue it’s going :/
Just started playing a week ago. Seems like a great game. Wish I started earlier.
If they really mean what they say then using LOR to continue building their world and characters is the right thing to do....LOR isn't going to make them a bunch of money but it's influence on the IP is huge and I hope they see that...I've never played LOR but I do love the lore ... Arcane brought me in... Ruined King showed me other places beyond Piltover n Zahun. Now I'm facing a wall because I've caught up on the lore and I truly hope Riot understands what a magical gift they made for us and how fragile it can be ...I'm walking proof that there market tactics work I just hope it all ain't to just be able to sell more Lux skins
I guess it's because of the LoRe that it's keeps going (sorry, i had to)
I think you really underestimate how heavy Lor is taming tools on company in a business perspective.
It's not just that they didn't make enough money, it's they only make a fraction of the cost since day 1. And this game is not the only money sink Riot has. Forge is always guarantee loss no matterr what game they make. Multiple projects for the same league ip in the pipeline that draining resouces without contributing anything to the ip. Arcane as much as of a success it was, wouldn't be that projitable given that the project took many year in the making while most people can watch it free on twitch. Even the Esport sence has always been a money sink.
They are all losses in service of keeping LoL relevant on the internet sphere, and out of all of them, forge and lor just did the worse.
But you can clearly see people at riot still love the game and want to keep it "alive". If it was any company on earth, this game wouldn't have been made in the 1st place.
It's crazy because idk why they made LOR free to play...they have the right ideal using multiple forms of media to boost LOL but it seems the fundamental problem is they are using all the other media to prop up and support LOL ..Each different form they create needs to be self sufficient and sustainable not used to fund and support through their main IP
@@user-gs4th6qp9p they said it themself they were too ambitious.
They thought they could pulled the player friendly model off like how they did with league or valorant but they failed.
It's sad because Arcane brought me to Riot products ...It got me invested into Runterra which lead to buying the Ruined King game and to playing WR and learning to play Lol ...So the fundamental ideal works now they need to use these tools they have bring in more like me(I'm invested in the world without even really caring about the games at all) and to retain their core consumers
Atrox is already in PoC, I assume he will be one of the 20 champions who will move from 3 to 6 stars
I think they're talking about enemy encounters. So that they're talking about making Aatrox and Norra as enemies in PoC.
Correct
@@Firesti so the new 20 champions are bosses and not champions that we can play with new decks ? Kinda dissapointed
@@MsElViktor It is unclearly phrased, IMO. Personally, I don't see how the Aatrox line would get into this video and stay there through all of production with noone pointing out that Aatrox was already playable. My assumption would be that the 20 new champions are going to be playable, but Aatrox and Norra (plus some others, presumably) will also be new bosses/paths.
I only play POC so this update actually sounds pretty good to me. Hopefully some substantial story content will follow.
Do you spend much money for POC? only curious?
@@DefendYourGains since you're curious, I wanna answer as another player who also only play POC. Except for the patch that they give Asol shards and starforged gauntlet, no, I don't spend it on anything else.
With all these constellation/more progress, I really just hope for a really replayable adventure, just a way of setting ur own difficulty like with hades, more randomized fights like the monthly challenge but not only being 1/2 fights where u can actually play for longer
That's all i want to be able to play a lot again
on the reddit there was a post with more riot information and something that got a mention is scalable adventure mechanics and hard mode.
I hope they cut out some of the grind and make deck power more translatable between champions. I don't want to have to run through the Teemo mission every time I try a new deck.
To be honest, seeing they're so heavily pivoting into the roguelike mode, and even adding more metaprogression (the way to make a roguelike more casual friendly) I wouldn't be surprised if they stop treating LoR like a card game with a roguelike mode, and more like a roguelike card game (ala slay the spire) and if that does happen, I can only imagine PoC will get even better.
@@KingTaltia yeah I'm drawn to PoC because of its rogue like elements if they pivot into that I'd be happy.
@@KingTaltiaproblem i have with the mode is they are playing a lot more into the roguelite tropes of meta progression and things being impossible because you didn't grind enough to get + 10 max hp
for when thwy hit you with a bunch of unavoidable damage several battles in a row
Thanks Necrit, this video give me hopes for the future nonenthless!
I'm not surprised. People love story games more than anything else and being able to customize your "Character" deck is just a massive plus
I didn't know LoR existed for the longest time because it was not well advertised outside its channel. I want to say I picked it up around Azir's reveal?
It was very advertised initially but it still didn't do that well. Of course advertising went down as the game stop being able to pay for its cost
It did have a ton of advertising and was a pretty big thing on release but most people got on tried it out and quit. It reached its target audience and actually got a solid playerbase. It just has a very unsustainable business model
I agree with the above comments, it's just that CCG in general is getting smaller
They really did bad advertising in my country (Italy). For example the YT channel was no longer updated even if there were the full trailers with voice acting, sometimes released only on FB and not on YT and viceversa leaving a lot of wasted work until they stopped posting anywhere
I really hope that in the future when the MMO comes out, they start lor again in game but from version 1 and this time make it like a real like card game with limited number of cards and rarities , packs to open and stuff like that . Cards that drop from legendary monsters , etc... you should be able to buy the packs from ingame currency ... then I'm happy ... start from the first version of the game and slowly and steadily realise new cards.
I think it makes sense to put LoR into the League client and kinda like an occasional side game you dip into once in a while, kinda like TFT or ARAM
They should have done that from the start
That wouldn't make sense.
I am pretty sure TFT, League, and LoR have different player bases so putting them into the same client wouldn't change much.
@@firemancer_ You'd be surprised what player bases cross, that and it just makes sense to have your other games accessible to each other like that.
I loved LoR so much, much more than League itself. Which is why it was really hard for me to quit, even with my limited budget I was so intent on supporting the game lest it died and bought everything I could. However, during the ruination event, the game did die, for me at least. I felt so punished for trying to complete the event, while also completing the same event for LoL and TFT, that I eventually just quit altogether.
I'm just screaming into the void to get this off my chest. I'm ultimately glad the game isn't dead nor dying anytime soon. I do look forward to coming back one day because while, the PvE content wasn't as developed back then, it was still very enjoyable. Only time will tell.
6:40 I totally got caught off-guard with this good lord 😂
I have hope for LoR 😊
Amen
Not sure where you get it from 😢
cope harder
I literally only play POC it’s what I’ve been looking for in a ccg. It is also a great way for them to maybe try expanding the story using the fights.
Hell yeah brother.
Excited for the new content
Except PoC isn't a CCG......it doesn't let you build your own deck or care about what cards you own, which means what you've been looking for is not a CCG.
@@stephenschneekloth1535 you collect the cards and build the deck between the fights. I like this rouge like element because you're not running the same no-fun "meta" deck everyone else is running
@@ChromaticCluck I get what you mean, but stephen is right here. A CCG is a specific term for a card game where you build a deck and play against an opponent using cards you get and keep over time that you can use and reuse in other decks, and TCG is where players are able to trade cards beyond just collecting them. PoC is a Roguelike Deckbuilder, which sounds the same but is very different given that you don't really own those cards, you draft them for one game and then they're gone, and the deckbuilding is mechanic done as part of the game mode, not as a preperation for the game. I think what you're looking for is either Draft or Deckbuilder games, which are similar and can be both single and multiplayer, but a CCG is probably not for you given that it leads to a meta with optimised decks.
@@Yous0147 fair
i´m glad about the news, the pve was always fun even back in the heartstone days :) hope there will be some co-op in it and stuff :) right now idk why i should keep leveling champs since you get op real quick
i think that the best thing they can do is mimic the success of commander for Magic. Singleton oriented around 1 specific champion that you can put into play at any point (unless other conditions restrict or enable it) with the tax for if it dies and returns to its "command zone" or whatever they would call it. The issue is that their game just DOES NOT have enough cards. they need lots and lots of stuff, but also a game mode to rationalize having that many cards and potentially cards that do essentially the same things. regardless, singleton is extremely fun because the diversity of your decks is crazy.
with singleton though, maybe they declare one as the center piece for your deck, no copies of that champion in your deck whatsoever. Then the champions you can place are maybe a total of 4 UNIQUE champions (so 1 champion as the center piece with 0 duplicates as the commander and 3 or less unique ones, but those may have duplicates within which function normally in the LoR playstyle turning into spells if they are in hand and what not) Those champions would be the only cards allowed to be duplicates though and each other card would be restricted to 1 per and follow the regions set by the different champions you chose. So maybe you choose to do a targon 1 region deck with solari and lunari theme and you can only have targon cards. The issue then with thiss mode is that LoR needs to add a metric butt ton of cards to the game. from the perspective of riot though, it just doesnt seem reasonable.
they also need casual game modes sorta lie TFT weith the augments and they can throughout the game choose maybe one or two augments like the ones in path.
anyways, more gamemodes and deck types (runeterra decks were amazing) and just generally ways to get diverse aside from just regions and things in them
I've always liked that Lor isn't like heartsone because in heartsone you have to pay to have any chance in PVP and PVE is also paid
I have to say that i play Runeterra everday in the morning while eating toast and coffee
But the MEANING of MAYBE ppl playing only path of champions like me is because i only do 1 story to have enought XP for the 3 diamond cases rewards at the end of the week.
3 diamond cases = receving lots of cards and green stuff to make cards that i want.
pvp will take more time.
PoC is the most played because theres a daily quest for 5 wins (and might as well complete a 6-9 match run while you're at it) while PvP daily bonus is only for 3 wins
That's really bad argument. One 7-battle adventure in PoC takes much less time to complete than even 5 PvP games, because AI doesn't rope you and always plays cards instantaneously. Plus winning in PoC is much easier, so you will definitely get your wins, while in PvP there is no guarantee you will win all your 3 first games, so you might play additional games which is more time. People really should stop coping and accept that PoC is just much more popular.
i played POC a LOT, but only because i earn currency to use it in PVP. so without PVP updates tehres no point in playing POC for me.
I played both. Kinda fun, but if it's only PoC I would rather play any proper deckbuilding roguelike without microtransactions
I found PoC was a good way of picking up the daily missions, to ensure a weekly champ.
I don’t play legends of runaterra, but I am happy to hear that it will be supported, I love the lore, and legends of runaterra is the best for that
I liked how the questions were almost as if pulled from Twitter. Kinda OTT but thats a good way of tackling the issues.
interesting that they been working on it before hearthstone, i applied and asked about any card games in the work for riot in 2017 and was rejected mainly because there wasnt a card game project for me to be signed up
Could've just said no to prevent expectation and fan pressure to release it. Also the topic, "Riot sucks so bad they canceled the upcoming card game being made under everyone's nose" and booo card game fans flames riot and say blizzard is better
If it wasn't for that video Bricky made a while ago praising LoR, I would have never considered trying it out. Ended up loving it and even reached top 100 on the ladder.
On the other hand, TFT is right in my face every time I open LoL, so naturally it takes one losing streak to take a break and give TFT a shot.
TLDR: Both are amazing games, however, only TFT reminds you that it exists.
The issue I have with LoR is the inability to play the characters I want. Stuck doing campaigns for champions I dont even like.
Honestly, you cant say they aren't trying. Props to Riot for not pulling the plug
I genuinely appreciate that they're doing what they can to sustain the game without killing it outright.
I really want to be hopeful. I do love Path of Champions. But as a former Heroes of the Storm player…
Anyway, I’ll keep playing both as long as I can.
Working in business field it just baffles me how they are not able to monetize this game.
I mean if the Emporium rotated more frequently and actually biased more towards things I wanted then it would be much better. I'm sick of seeing something I have no interest in buying be in there for almost a month or even a couple weeks
The thing I wish for the most in poc, is a reset to all rewards!
Not a reset to the characters we’ve been building stronger, but I want all adventures to reset, so you can gain relics and chests for them again.
It was awesome gaining rewards for those missions, but now, as someone who has all characters in 3 stars and most of them in max level, I’m missing the game incentive to keep playing!
So that’s also why I’m suuuper excited for these poc changes!
Not sure if this works for LoR but in league you can message the support and have them remove stuff from your account. It's worth trying in your case at least
I hope the game doing well after this, i do play pve a lot but pvp is what keep the community alive, pve player keeps things for themself, incuding me, you don't see much topic about pve in the community. I tried to be optimistic but i don't see a community during the pvp hibernation time
This is making me cry 😢 I’m not that fond of PVE. I only play it when I’m extremely busy during the week so I can get more rewards in the weekly vault.
I don’t get satisfied with beating AI with a random deck, nor enabling combos in PoC (cause it’s so easy). I get frustrated losing as well because it’s so time consuming. *sigh*
I was actually surprised when a friend made an account and he had the option to play PoC from the beginning, which wasn’t the case for me. I got on LoR during Rise of Tides.
Anyway- just needed to let this out my chest, especially after realizing that one of the best communities in the world of video games is brain dead.
I saw this from a mile away, still rockin' my LoR beta icon. I was able to get so many free cards throughout just playing/completing quests, I'm surprised more people didn't play LoR because of how accessible some of the cards are. It was definitely fun while it lasted, looking forward to more PvE content!
So the thing why so many players play pve is the fact that to get the most resources you are incentifized to win at least 3 games in pve and 3 games in pvp so the pvp players play both but there are also people that play only pve, I think that the amountnof people that play pve will drop once the competitive part of the game is removed there will be a drop in the pve community as well
I never bought battle pass from games except this one. I bought two because i was heavily invested in the game.
I didn't know they had a PvE in the game, I played it when released and really enjoyed it but lost track of the game since I didn't have enough time. Now with this new shift to refocus it on PvE I'm actually looking forward to it :)
PVE Enjoyer here - I have been playing PoC since launch and its honestly super fun and a great way to enjoy LoR for me since I am a casual player.
They can totally have canon story. There is already a system where every champion can play all the default adventure. But then for some champion there is some extra adventure called campagne that comes with very minimalistic stories with comics and dialog. They could just improve on those. Give some to every champion and make it canon.
I started with hearthstone and 50% of my play time is pve and when Poc came out in LOR I played it a lot
Hearthstone has pve???
@@jonathanfranciscosanchezma7261 Probably a troll comment, but yeah and it's actually more bearable than having to take a break between every action, ala LoR
@@alienalibi2382What break between every action?
@@jonathanfranciscosanchezma7261
Yea they have solo adventures
PvE? Are you telling me that Naxx is out?
I will miss this game. It was so much fun.
Its sad to hear that LoR has been struggling so much. Honestly props to riot for keeping it alive, even if they have to let PvP die down. It is such a great game, but PvP was also struggling a lot in terms of being fun to play since Bandle
You mentioned that "most companies would shut it down at this point." Riot has had a habit of tweaking EVERYTHING and seeing how much they can get away with. Passes slowly getting less and less rewards, events having more BE rewards than special resources. If Riot had shut down LoR at the same time as the rest of the drama, i think would too far and they knew that. They have such a tendency to say one thing and then change tune months/a few laters. Jayce's rework, Riot Forge getting the axe after just a few years, saying theyre taking twisted treeline away for rotating game modes that they just said THIS YEAR that we would actually have less downtime between each one. Ive played this game since season 3 and im not going anywhere, but as a long time fan boy i have to stay grounded and realize that Riot never changes.
5:57 keep on Necrit, I too want to see that return. Maybe they will get the message one day.
I get it too, with the champs changing they didnt want to keep things like that as it would not be the same supposedly, but I mean come on. Copy, Paste character, change the name for that mode only, you have a state of the character for just that mode, problem solved right? That game mode was so good, so was the Star Guardian one, but this one had earnable skills and stuff to customize the champs for the mode, so much replayability, so fun, loved it.
Love to hear they are focusing on single player! ❤
I hope someday LoL will have a mod creation options for community modes. I don't like DotA that much but I really like creative modes that appear there from time to time.
Because I have a bunch of fun Ideas for PvE that Riot themselves would almost never implement:
- LoL TD game with champions as "turrets"
- Ability Draft - where everyone picks 1-3 champions and then everyone drafts themselves a passive, Q, W, E and R from a set of 3 random champions of selected pool.
- Ultimate theft - Everyone's champion has Sylas ult as a replacement of their own but it steals original ult of enemy champion.
Also I'm sure modders will find a way to bring back old PvE modes like Starguardian event or Odyssey. And maybe create a few new Doom Bots...
I'm cautiously happy about the path of champions update, can't wait
if legends of runeterra makes a gamemode similar to nuzlocking from pokemon but with the cards..... im totally gonna play that a lot.
Honestly... I always think about how awesome it is that there is a league of legends card game... I primarily play League soloq and TFT but I always imagine enjoying LoR... recently there has been much talk about the future of LoR and this has me worried... So today will be my first day playing and getting into, I want to see this succeed and its so sad to hear it hasn't been doing well. If you love the league universe we have to support it, I want to continue to see these games and these worlds grow. I love it much like the children of the 90's loved Disney and Pixar. Thank you Riot for not giving up on your other games!!!
the constellation system is completely identical to the artifact weapons we got in the legion expansion in WoW
I must admit it that i spend a lot of time on path of champion, like a lot. And play ranked just for two or three game per season. And doesn't even play ranked this season. It just sad to hear this news... Man, i hope its not gonna be worse for now on
Yeay we will finally be able to play lor during champ select and game search just by clicking one button on league launcher
Question. Putting poc or whole lor behind a purchase? Not even big like 10 bucks but still make it a pay to play?
Being a Pokemon unite player, I'm so grateful for the communication from developers in regards to LoR. Thank you developers.
PoC is easily the most fun aspect of the game. I do recall LoR having something of a draft mode once and I preferred that over the construction formats simply because a good portion of the meta game. Back when I only played Magic, you could still make non-meta decks and see a fair amount of success, but in LoR, it always felt like you couldn't get away with that as well. And even with the diversity of champions in the game, I rarely saw that diversity reflected in ladder.
In PoC, it's always partially a draft and deck construction is an active part of the strategy. The additional rules added to the matches on top of that, including champion unique ones, gives a variety to the gameplay that keeps things interesting.
So while it is nice that PvE content will be getting the most focus going forward, cutting the team still feels like a bit much; like, maybe stop with the over the top animations, first?
The game became "does your deck fit within one of 10 meta decks?"
Yes-> 70% chance you win. No->95% chance you lose
It became boring to lose to the same, uninspired decks over and over again
As CS we were allowed to playtest this way back in 2019 to anticipate future player concerns when it launched. Its sad to see it in this state. This was our baby.
I think this is the time when LOR needs the playerbase the most
It's sad to see a generous game like LoR struggling this much. I know they don't want to put the classic CCG monetization system into the game but I think they should now. Nothing wrong with using gacha card packs and skins opening system if the game is still giving enough resources to enjoy the game. Look at Shadowverse monetization system for example
I always figured Lor would become a gacha or get gacha elements. I was floored i realized the views on genshin characters videos.
I just wanted a decent draft mode, I guess it will never happen and I'm forced back into HS arena, fuck me.
Game was indeed under-monetized but man the constant going back and forth without really going all-in was their downfall: PVP then PVE then PVP then PVE feels like a very confused upper management.
Me, everytime I see something pop up about LoR: "Aw shit, here we go again"
Honestly, they've already got such a big grind set up in PoC, I don't think people would mind if they gave us options to pay our way through the grind. Some items are so grindy that you can only get one from a loot box that you can buy with in game currency that takes about a month to accumulate enough. Just give us more ways to buy these things. Hell, if stardust was a purchasable currency, LoR's income would skyrocket.
I belive LoR could go into a gacha system for cosmetics, or even cards and then reduce a lot the contents of capsules and chests, like from 5 to 2-3 cards.
As a person who's had all cards from day 1 I'm fine with the changes & monetization so long as I can still get new future cards using shards.
About the 2011 development thing and hearthstone and you mentioning they "missed the train" on that one, they actually partnered up with cygames before or at least attempted to. The R and D for that failed collab lead to Shadowverse. That being said, please take this with a grain of salt as I've only heard this from an AMA session with one the "real" rioters (we were outsourced rioters)
I remember downloading the game during open beta on holiday good memories. Funny metas elnuks and fiora bs
I would love a game like Mobile Legends Adventure (their system is very F2P friendly, but also is extremely profitable), but for League. It's about time we got a hero collector!
As an OCE player, I had no idea that button was only in our clients and not anyone elses. It makes so much more sense now, it felt like everyone was ignoring that they added the button to the league client months ago.
It's nice to know they don't want to change LoR definition of CCG from Collectible Card Game to Credit Card Game, even though it's not as profitable as their other games, if at all
dinner time with necrit
Im just thankful for LoR giving Evelynn, Lissandra and the coven skinline some love, they never appear anywhere so it was good to see them
Thx for the video. I'm pessimistic about LoR's PvP future. I saw Gwent die a slow death, for the same reasons, lack of profit. Now the 2 games are different, but there are enough similarities in their story to make me believe LoR will ultimately also shutter in the next couple of years. Unless the PoC monetization model is more sustainable, we'll have to wait and see.
Honestly, i'm kinda interested, because i am guilty of this, i farmed PoC 80% more for Exp
However i hope if they do shift to PoC they add in a deck building feature to PoC. So that you're collection does something... Like you can add in up to X cards to your deck if you own them in PvP
There used to be a league mode where your team battled super buffed bots
its never been so over...
I didn't even know Legends of Runterra had PvE mode lol. Thanks to you and your video I'll be checking that out now :)
I really hope that the change is real and they focus on turning Lore into a roguelike deck builder, not a casual PoC. I think that only in that way may Lore have a future of surviving.
I just really want a multiplayer element to PoC, whether it be co-op or PvP
Thing is, since Path of Champions released I almost played LoR everyday buying the Season Passes and even buying Skins for my fav. Champs just for aesthetic reasons.
But then they fired a bunch of guys and said they would only focus on PvP going onward. I felt so scammed by that. I genuinely wanted to support them, cuz I really liked Path of Champions and was looking forward to whats to come.
But after that, I never bought a season pass or skin again, cuz they themselves said, that the money wouldnt be used to improve Path of Champions.
Im not sure if its too late for me to return to it tho...
I think they can make you build a little deck for an adventure. I wouldn't mind paying shards to build strong or fun deck to play an adventure. LoR is so generous in giving shards away anyways. I would burn down my shards so fast if I get to build my own adventure deck.
8:40 what do they mean by this? Aatrox is already a champ in PoC. Do they mean that he'll be an end boss?
they mean he is one of the first 20 characters to get 6 stars treatment
As someone who played at the release and then stopped, coming back i only played PoC so i could farm without the pain of getting destroyed by better decks
id love to hear about youtubers youd recommend, you have good taste.
got over 200 stars in LoR path, the grind looks like hell.
It's honestly impressive that Riot has been running a money sink for this long and is _still_ trying to avoid destroying the player experience for profits.
The Last Stand of Legends of Runeterra sounds like a Song from Sabaton.
While I'm sad that PvP is going away I love PoC and the PvE content has been amazingly fun and I am happy the game isn't going away
This is what makes the layoffs so painful, because Riot does try and care about their products. Yet the firings were such a disaster.
i feel like they should make it a FULL on PvE game, like make it literally the lore in a game, make some big battles in it, like for example kayle/morgana vs aatrox (that could POTENTIALLY be a cooperative gamemode) but I feel like PvP doesn't do as much as PvE. So basically make it a full on PvE game, and for example make some fun things/events, like a ´´sing off battle´´ between kda and heartsteel/pentakill (potentially selling skins)
C6 Aurelion Sol will have an order
I was really angry because Steve Rubin lay off. but after watching your video. I think I can accept a little more.
I didn't even know they are a PVE in LoR, so I understand the "Why no add"
Wow, who would have though 12 years of bad business spending would bite them in the ass
LoR should be on the league client, aviable to choose from alongside ranked, aram and tft
I want ahri back on poc... never got to play her there when she came out