Awesome video. No truer words spoken than at 3:37. We have cedar trees that we have chosen not to disturb and haven't regretted it. Our whitetails love the habits as evidenced by all the sheds we have found under them over the years. And our mantle over our fireplace is a cedar beam from our property, casualty of a walnut harvest. As with anything in moderation and balance, it is good.
Excellent video, friend! My brother recently bought a beautiful property in the Ozarks of Missouri. Many beautiful eastern cedars on his property are healthy. However, due to the density of cedars in certain areas, many are dying off from the ground up whilst hanging on to some foliage near the canopy.
Thanks for the input. It's actually pretty common for cedars to lose their branches in dense stands; they only stay green with direct access to sunlight. Even a lone cedar will turn brown from the inside out, leaving only a green shell. It doesn't necessarily mean the tree is unhealthy, just that they don't bother putting effort into branches that don't see sun.
@@ozarkoutsider Thanks for the quick reply. It's a family farm with amazing potential. We love the cedars for fencing and a multitude of other projects but wanting to preserve all that we can. The land is rich but has been neglected and as a result, a multitude of cedars have popped up and are crowding each other out. Would you suggest clearing many of them out to promote healthy trees and landscape?
I'd advise clearing them IF you have a plan for what comes next. Cedars are good at controlling weedy/brushy undergrowth, and when a large block are removed you can get an unmanageable mess for a while as new things pop up, especially if you have woody invasive plants in the area. So if you know what you want to do (plant a series of good hardwood saplings, keep it mowed/grazed/burned as a grassland), then yeah, clear them. If they're really dense but you still want the cedar cover, you can at least them them out and take off all the lower dead branches to give you something more like a pine grove. Have fun!
Cedar sawn into one and two inch thick boards is bringing 3-4$ per board foot in VA. That is great money especially if you own the logs you are sawing. :)
All invasive species are non-native, but all non-native species are not invasive. I am a bit confused because I thought that if a plant is native it can’t be invasive because all invasive plants are non-native.
From our perspective, the point of the video is that the native/non-native divide is too simplistic and not very useful in many real-world management settings. Honeybees are invasive, but highly beneficial, and few people would advocate for eradicating them. Cedars are native, but present serious challenges for land managers. To us, it's more important to decide whether a given species' role in its landscape and ecosystem is beneficial or problematic than to focus solely on its origin.
It is classified as invasive where I am even though it is a native species. The wildfires that once kept it in check are no longer a factor, allowing it to take over an area quickly.
Red Cedar is not invasive! Life is evolving we used to have millions of bison that would keep the prairies well PRAIRIES, but without the bison the trees will expand and Red Cedar are drought resistant
To us, the point is that humans are inextricably tangled up in these patterns. European settlers not only removed most of the bison, but suppressed the larger-scale fires (often set intentionally by Native Americans) that maintained the "natural" prairies and woodlands of the Ozarks and surrounding areas. This removal of a longer-term control created an opening for cedars to drastically expand their range and become functionally invasive. A landscape dominated by cedars is not "natural" but very much human-created, which is why so many public and private land managers emphasize cedar removal in places where their goal is restoration to a more diverse ecosystem.
Awesome video. No truer words spoken than at 3:37. We have cedar trees that we have chosen not to disturb and haven't regretted it. Our whitetails love the habits as evidenced by all the sheds we have found under them over the years. And our mantle over our fireplace is a cedar beam from our property, casualty of a walnut harvest. As with anything in moderation and balance, it is good.
Thanks for watching! Glad you're enjoying your habitat.
But the maples scream oppression as the oaks just shake their heads.
I love the Rush lyric. And, I love red cedars. My mother uses the berries for flavoring certain dishes!
Yes, I've used them in a game marinade in place of store-bought juniper berries.
Good video! Didn't expect a Rush reference haha
Good thing the Cedars had no union to demand equal rights. I'm right down the road in AR. I subbed just from the the Rush quote.
The cedars are certainly taking up all our light. Welcome!
Excellent video, friend! My brother recently bought a beautiful property in the Ozarks of Missouri. Many beautiful eastern cedars on his property are healthy. However, due to the density of cedars in certain areas, many are dying off from the ground up whilst hanging on to some foliage near the canopy.
Thanks for the input. It's actually pretty common for cedars to lose their branches in dense stands; they only stay green with direct access to sunlight. Even a lone cedar will turn brown from the inside out, leaving only a green shell. It doesn't necessarily mean the tree is unhealthy, just that they don't bother putting effort into branches that don't see sun.
@@ozarkoutsider Thanks for the quick reply. It's a family farm with amazing potential. We love the cedars for fencing and a multitude of other projects but wanting to preserve all that we can. The land is rich but has been neglected and as a result, a multitude of cedars have popped up and are crowding each other out. Would you suggest clearing many of them out to promote healthy trees and landscape?
I'd advise clearing them IF you have a plan for what comes next. Cedars are good at controlling weedy/brushy undergrowth, and when a large block are removed you can get an unmanageable mess for a while as new things pop up, especially if you have woody invasive plants in the area. So if you know what you want to do (plant a series of good hardwood saplings, keep it mowed/grazed/burned as a grassland), then yeah, clear them. If they're really dense but you still want the cedar cover, you can at least them them out and take off all the lower dead branches to give you something more like a pine grove. Have fun!
This video is perfect, it covers everything
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Cedar sawn into one and two inch thick boards is bringing 3-4$ per board foot in VA. That is great money especially if you own the logs you are sawing. :)
Rush all day !
There's troubles in the forest...
All invasive species are non-native, but all non-native species are not invasive. I am a bit confused because I thought that if a plant is native it can’t be invasive because all invasive plants are non-native.
From our perspective, the point of the video is that the native/non-native divide is too simplistic and not very useful in many real-world management settings. Honeybees are invasive, but highly beneficial, and few people would advocate for eradicating them. Cedars are native, but present serious challenges for land managers. To us, it's more important to decide whether a given species' role in its landscape and ecosystem is beneficial or problematic than to focus solely on its origin.
@@ozarkoutsider that is true, non-native species do sometimes actually have positive effects on ecosystems.
It is classified as invasive where I am even though it is a native species. The wildfires that once kept it in check are no longer a factor, allowing it to take over an area quickly.
@@karlrovey oh wow
Red Cedar is not invasive! Life is evolving we used to have millions of bison that would keep the prairies well PRAIRIES, but without the bison the trees will expand and Red Cedar are drought resistant
To us, the point is that humans are inextricably tangled up in these patterns. European settlers not only removed most of the bison, but suppressed the larger-scale fires (often set intentionally by Native Americans) that maintained the "natural" prairies and woodlands of the Ozarks and surrounding areas. This removal of a longer-term control created an opening for cedars to drastically expand their range and become functionally invasive. A landscape dominated by cedars is not "natural" but very much human-created, which is why so many public and private land managers emphasize cedar removal in places where their goal is restoration to a more diverse ecosystem.
@@ozarkoutsiderexcellent answer
Thank you!
Stop with the anti-European nonsense.
Here in Jersey it is non-evasive, and is popular among many native trees.