Comentariile astea jenante sint scrise de cei care nu inteleg spiritul Transilvaniei (Erdely, Siebenbuergen). Aici am trait un mileniu impreuna, unguri, germani si romani, intr-o atmosfera de toleranta si buna-intelegere care i-a adus acestui tinut renumele de Elvetia estului. Sasii au si un imn dedicat Transilvaniei: "Siebenbuergen, Land des Segens".
Felicitari pentru frumoasa postare! Clujul-Kolozsvar-Klausenburg a fost vestit pentru toleranta etnica si religioasa si cu ajutorul bunului Dumnezeu speram sa-l readucem in aceasta postura cit mai repede!
frumos, bravo ca si unii romani recunosc valorile pe care le-au creat alti. De biserica uniariana putea spune totusi macar o vorba, ca ea a promovat libertatea religioasa n primul rand, si tot Clujul era uniarian si loc de refugiu pentru cei urmariti din motive religioase in intreaga lume
esti desteapta tare...asezarea a fost fondata(daca nu exista si dinainte) in perioada romana si se numea Napoca; se pomeneste si numele de Castrum Clus.
*******Cont. OF GSHONKOR: His name is Kemal pasha and he was able to react in time and with the suffient power not to let Entente to cut up his country. You better be proud. It was something Hungarian politicians that time couldn't achieve. My ancestors faced Soviets and Communists and rebelled in 1956 along with Poznan, achieving the first shock to demolish the Berlin Wall and Communism. AND WE ARE STILL ALIVE! Now we face national indifference, the most dangerous problem ever in our history.
Transylvania was Hungarian soil for a 1000 years and Romanians were minority, that is the reason they've never liked us.Now sides have changed and tension still remains.
Acesta este un site international unde fiecare are dreptul sa scrie in ce limba doreste! Engleza este cea mai cunoscuta, asadar cea mai recomandabila. Multi ii blameaza pe evrei pentru puterea si cunostintele lor, dar nu se gindesc ca nu exista evreu care sa nu cunoasca macar doua limbi straine. Daca aveti aversiune la straini sau alte limbi, exista site-uri unde Va puteti desfasura romanismul deplasat.
For all those Romanians who suffered during Austro-Hungarian occupation, (&before&after that), Romanians must DEFEND their country, against any Hungarian or external nationalist propaganda! For quatrrofan, nagymagyar&other Hungarian ignorants&"ex-empire dreamers", I'd say get a life! It's time for TRUE&Independent nations(ex:Romania) to come out&develop! You tried to stop us for centuries&that's what U're doing now! Peace&wisdom Romanians! Start/continue defending Our Romanian NATION!
Great ROMANIAN&European city! I suppose MR Nagymagyar didn't pay too much attention to the video! Transylvania, has only been a territory annexed/occupied by Hungarians, during Austro-Hungarian empire... Now in the XXI century we have DEMOCRACIES NOT EMPIRES!
@adfhun of course he spoke! I don't understand why are you changing the discusion?I was telling you that he was romanian as long his father was romanian,this is a fact!so if he is importand to you hungarians ,wel glad that a romanian is so important to you!
It is only natural that you won't believe me, since you have your friends in Kolozsvár/Cluj saying the opposite story;it is hard for them to accept the truth:
In 1890 Kolozsvár population was 79% Magyar, in 1910 82% was Magyar. In 1941 Kolozsvár population was 88% Magyar. Up until 1956 Kolozsvár had a Hungarian majority! You should ask the question why has Kolozsvár become artificially romanian majority?
After this the Hungarian tribes, to secure the newly conquered land in Central Europe, started roams all through Europe; this frogression lasted for decades until 955, when the united Christian arms under Otto the Great had inflicted defeat upon Hungarians (eventually Hungarians led roamings the Byzantine Empire until 970). Hope, I ensured you about the truth. Believe me, my friend, I, also as a Transylvanian Hungarian, am not an immigrant, never was and never be, along with my nation.
********Cont. OF GSHONKOR:So, my friend.I talked a lot. I "listened" to your "theory" once again in several months, although the question was not related to it (your answer to my mail was not to the point). I used a hard voice intentionally to have you feel how I felt after the numerous insult. Well, what do you think? Now, that I stated MY opinion, are you able to answer me properly? I'd like to argue with you some more.
Romanians are not exactly inhabitants of this region; the first mentioning of settling of Wallachian Romanians (originally pakurars, i.e. sheperds from the Balkan region) is dated to the beginning of the 13th century. Nevertheless, Hungarians settled down after the Hungarian peregrination (895-900) and conquering the Carpathian Basin from the Svatopluk-led Moravians (902) and the Easter Franks (907).
In loc sa pierdem vremea cu xenofobii jenante, sa incercam sa refacem orasul nostru Cluj-Kolozsvar-Klausenburg demn de faima sa. Astfel, sa facem demersuri la primarie pentru ca vestita stema a orasului, cea cu trei turnuri si hersa, asemanatoare altor celebre orase ale Europei (Praga si Cracovia), sa fie urgent readoptata. Apoi sa insistam pentru introducerea graduala a inscriptiile trilingve (romana-maghiara-germana) in frumoasa traditie transilvana si ar mai fi si altele, dar nu incap aici.
@adfhun if you want to call him hungarian of romanian origin ,then I call the people from romania that you call hungarians -ROMANIANS OF HUNGARIAN ORIGIN! fair enought,isn't it?
in Transilvania nu mai este loc de dispute nationaliste in zilele noastre ungurii au trait aici, romanii au trait aici si nu conteaza care am fost primii, ci ce am facut, sau, mai important, ce vom face in viitor
"Szép város Kolozsvár ott a Szamosnál." true one the song sounds. only too bad that whole kolozsvár (Cluj Napoca) turned out for the Romanians under 80 years to disfigure. Everything demolished what was beautiful and a lot of panels were built how there should be place the resettled for Romanians. Kolozsvár(Cluj Napoca) will never be so beautiful already than how many Romanian flag will cover the truth even once. Today Kolozsvár a ugly city...
Well, some kind of reason (maybe because I've never heard anything like this in my entire life) I must argue with you. It is just oblivious that your friends are whether extremely uninformed or just lied since they had known that you do not know anything about Transylvanian history so you are opened to any kind of information. My dear friend, believe me that I am not only 50 but 100 % right.There is no Hungarian immigrancy in Transylvania since the end of the 10th century/beginnig of the 11th
@Dexterqwx Vorbesti numai prostii. Centrul s-ar fi ridicat cu alte contructii. In lumea asta nimic nu este de neinlocuit. Imensul camp gol imaginat de tine reflecta in realitate doar lipsa ta de imaginatie.
"ugly blocks of apartments"...how old are you? the "ugly blocks of apartments" were built by the communists and they exist in ungary two... mai documenteaza-te
esti desteapta tare...asezarea a fost fondata(daca nu exista si dinainte) in perioada romana si se numea Napoca; se pomeneste si numele de Castrum Clus.
Comentariile astea jenante sint scrise de cei care nu inteleg spiritul Transilvaniei (Erdely, Siebenbuergen). Aici am trait un mileniu impreuna, unguri, germani si romani, intr-o atmosfera de toleranta si buna-intelegere care i-a adus acestui tinut renumele de Elvetia estului. Sasii au si un imn dedicat Transilvaniei: "Siebenbuergen, Land des Segens".
Foarte frumos filmuletul:) Este atat de diferit si de frumos orasul Cluj.
Foarte fumos este prezentat clujul....imi place....adevarul e ca e frumos - mai ales ca este orasul meu natal....:)
Felicitari pentru frumoasa postare! Clujul-Kolozsvar-Klausenburg a fost vestit pentru toleranta etnica si religioasa si cu ajutorul bunului Dumnezeu speram sa-l readucem in aceasta postura cit mai repede!
e super complimenti numai o singura gresala biserica din turda noua nu este luterana ci reformata orcum BRAVA
frumos, bravo ca si unii romani recunosc valorile pe care le-au creat alti.
De biserica uniariana putea spune totusi macar o vorba, ca ea a promovat libertatea religioasa n primul rand, si tot Clujul era uniarian si loc de refugiu pentru cei urmariti din motive religioase in intreaga lume
esti desteapta tare...asezarea a fost fondata(daca nu exista si dinainte) in perioada romana si se numea Napoca; se pomeneste si numele de Castrum Clus.
*******Cont. OF GSHONKOR: His name is Kemal pasha and he was able to react in time and with the suffient power not to let Entente to cut up his country. You better be proud. It was something Hungarian politicians that time couldn't achieve. My ancestors faced Soviets and Communists and rebelled in 1956 along with Poznan, achieving the first shock to demolish the Berlin Wall and Communism.
AND WE ARE STILL ALIVE! Now we face national indifference, the most dangerous problem ever in our history.
mi-e dor de cluj...si am stat doar 3 ani:(
Transylvania was Hungarian soil for a 1000 years and Romanians were minority, that is the reason they've never liked us.Now sides have changed and tension still remains.
Frumos daca nu ar fi fost imaginile cu cetatea Histria....
bv bv bv asa te vreau >:)
Acesta este un site international unde fiecare are dreptul sa scrie in ce limba doreste! Engleza este cea mai cunoscuta, asadar cea mai recomandabila. Multi ii blameaza pe evrei pentru puterea si cunostintele lor, dar nu se gindesc ca nu exista evreu care sa nu cunoasca macar doua limbi straine. Daca aveti aversiune la straini sau alte limbi, exista site-uri unde Va puteti desfasura romanismul deplasat.
For all those Romanians who suffered during Austro-Hungarian occupation, (&before&after that), Romanians must DEFEND their country, against any Hungarian or external nationalist propaganda!
For quatrrofan, nagymagyar&other Hungarian ignorants&"ex-empire dreamers", I'd say get a life!
It's time for TRUE&Independent nations(ex:Romania) to come out&develop!
You tried to stop us for centuries&that's what U're doing now!
Peace&wisdom Romanians!
Start/continue defending Our Romanian NATION!
Great ROMANIAN&European city!
I suppose MR Nagymagyar didn't pay too much attention to the video!
Transylvania, has only been a territory annexed/occupied by Hungarians, during Austro-Hungarian empire...
Now in the XXI century we have DEMOCRACIES NOT EMPIRES!
Orasul natal, pentru mine Kolozsvár :-) Biserica splendida Sf. Mihail romano-catolic.
@Dexterqwx E un comentariu genial. Sunt roman, bucurestean si sunt 100% de acord cu tine.
nu impresionezi pe nimeni stai linistit ca nu suntem curiosi de teoriile voastre:)
greets
@adfhun of course he spoke! I don't understand why are you changing the discusion?I was telling you that he was romanian as long his father was romanian,this is a fact!so if he is importand to you hungarians ,wel glad that a romanian is so important to you!
n`am avut drepotul la religie:)n`am putut construii..de nu construiati voi construiam noi:)
It is only natural that you won't believe me, since you have your friends in Kolozsvár/Cluj saying the opposite story;it is hard for them to accept the truth:
@adfhun as is known the father site is what matters! and from the father site he was romanian!
In 1890 Kolozsvár population was 79% Magyar, in 1910 82% was Magyar. In 1941 Kolozsvár population was 88% Magyar. Up until 1956 Kolozsvár had a Hungarian majority! You should ask the question why has Kolozsvár become artificially romanian majority?
clujul e al romanilor, desi suntem pop maj doar din '68 incoace
After this the Hungarian tribes, to secure the newly conquered land in Central Europe, started roams all through Europe; this frogression lasted for decades until 955, when the united Christian arms under Otto the Great had inflicted defeat upon Hungarians (eventually Hungarians led roamings the Byzantine Empire until 970).
Hope, I ensured you about the truth. Believe me, my friend, I, also as a Transylvanian Hungarian, am not an immigrant, never was and never be, along with my nation.
********Cont. OF GSHONKOR:So, my friend.I talked a lot. I "listened" to your "theory" once again in several months, although the question was not related to it (your answer to my mail was not to the point).
I used a hard voice intentionally to have you feel how I felt after the numerous insult.
Well, what do you think?
Now, that I stated MY opinion, are you able to answer me properly? I'd like to argue with you some more.
Romanians are not exactly inhabitants of this region; the first mentioning of settling of Wallachian Romanians (originally pakurars, i.e. sheperds from the Balkan region) is dated to the beginning of the 13th century.
Nevertheless, Hungarians settled down after the Hungarian peregrination (895-900) and conquering the Carpathian Basin from the Svatopluk-led Moravians (902) and the Easter Franks (907).
In loc sa pierdem vremea cu xenofobii jenante, sa incercam sa refacem orasul nostru Cluj-Kolozsvar-Klausenburg demn de faima sa. Astfel, sa facem demersuri la primarie pentru ca vestita stema a orasului, cea cu trei turnuri si hersa, asemanatoare altor celebre orase ale Europei (Praga si Cracovia), sa fie urgent readoptata. Apoi sa insistam pentru introducerea graduala a inscriptiile trilingve (romana-maghiara-germana) in frumoasa traditie transilvana si ar mai fi si altele, dar nu incap aici.
@adfhun if you want to call him hungarian of romanian origin ,then I call the people from romania that you call hungarians -ROMANIANS OF HUNGARIAN ORIGIN! fair enought,isn't it?
@cafta
in Transilvania nu mai este loc de dispute nationaliste in zilele noastre
ungurii au trait aici, romanii au trait aici si nu conteaza care am fost primii, ci ce am facut, sau, mai important, ce vom face in viitor
@adfhun Mattyas hungarian king of romanian descendants!...so he was romanian my friend learn history!
also for oneinteligentmuslim
"Szép város Kolozsvár ott a Szamosnál."
true one the song sounds. only too bad that whole kolozsvár (Cluj Napoca) turned out for the Romanians under 80 years to disfigure. Everything demolished what was beautiful and a lot of panels were built how there should be place the resettled for Romanians. Kolozsvár(Cluj Napoca) will never be so beautiful already than how many Romanian flag will cover the truth even once. Today Kolozsvár a ugly city...
@Dexterqwx
Well, some kind of reason (maybe because I've never heard anything like this in my entire life) I must argue with you.
It is just oblivious that your friends are whether extremely uninformed or just lied since they had known that you do not know anything about Transylvanian history so you are opened to any kind of information.
My dear friend, believe me that I am not only 50 but 100 % right.There is no Hungarian immigrancy in Transylvania since the end of the 10th century/beginnig of the 11th
@murphyloi I see that you hate the truth...
esti un stresat
is convins ca ai inteles ce am zis
@Dexterqwx
Vorbesti numai prostii. Centrul s-ar fi ridicat cu alte contructii. In lumea asta nimic nu este de neinlocuit. Imensul camp gol imaginat de tine reflecta in realitate doar lipsa ta de imaginatie.
"ugly blocks of apartments"...how old are you?
the "ugly blocks of apartments" were built by the communists and they exist in ungary two...
mai documenteaza-te
esti desteapta tare...asezarea a fost fondata(daca nu exista si dinainte) in perioada romana si se numea Napoca; se pomeneste si numele de Castrum Clus.