I used to race in the early 00s and haven't rode in 20 years. Just picked up a cheap 29er with this fork and its actually great. No worse that what used to be high end back in the day. Its a pogo but it feels good and I always prefer coil spring to air. For a basic cheap ass fork with virtually no useful adjustments its pretty damn good and perfectly good on moderate single track.
I think my old 2008 Trek 3700 has this system. The user manual recommends leaving them set to factory settings. These older entry-level light-duty bikes weren't intended for deadly terrain. I stand on the pedals and use bent legs and arms as shock absorbers.
The sticker is a CYA thing for Suntour and the oil on the stanchions is pretty normal. They're not nearly as terrible as forks found on Walmart bikes, but they sometimes fall apart after going off of large drops.
Thanks for your video and demonstration, I come from adjusting motorcycles. There is a click every 20 degrees. this click at 180 degrees I thought the suspension was broken... now I need to preload :D a big greeting from spain ^.^
That sounds about right. That’s what mine did too. I don’t know if any of the turning made a difference. The adjustment on this fork is pretty sketchy and low quality. But we took it to one of those ski lift mountain bike parks and rode all day with it, and it didn’t break, so it is plenty tough.
@@vegetasan2716 right side is preload only (to make soft or hard) left side is travel you won't notice anything really with the left one Ignore these matching clicks no need on these shocks that's only used on high end shocks like Rockshox etc
Hi mate can someone help me , I've lost track of the turns on either side and hesitant to crank it all the way up or down ,is this okay ,or how do I "reset" this ....✌
I just did that on mine. I had it all the way open. It took 8 half turns to all the way closed. Then I opened it 4 half turns for a starting point. I saw on an ebike forum that your forks should compress 1/3 of the travel sitting on your bike with all your weight on it. That fork has 100mm travel so 1/3 would be 33mm. He suggested put a zip tie around the fork and push the zip tie all the way down. Then compress with your weight and measure to the bottom of the zip tie. Adjust fork as necessary to achieve 33mm.
I just bought an e-bike it has these kind of shocks but the caps pop off and the shocks are Halllow! No locking mechanism. Is this a manufacturer error, or do they make shocks like this? They ride nice, I just ride on flat surfaces, but are these a type of shock forks? They do havr a Phillips head screw at the bottom of them,....idk weird, any comments would be greatly appreciated
the spring inside is what absorbes energy of compressing the spring! so technically yes it is a inner spring shock. Not a coil over gas shock! Yeah like you quoted. it pretty standard shock. inner spring shock!
Hey I’ve got a trek Marlin 7 with rockshox forks and a lockout option. It’s been recently bought about 2 weeks ago but the suspension barely goes down, it feels really hard when you lift the front wheels up and down again and it makes a big thud instead of soaking it up. I’ve but the preload option to maximum of the suspension going down but it still doesn’t work. Is it just because it’s new and I need to wear it a little bit or what? Thanks
If the lockout is turned on, then the suspense and will be hard to compress. It might be that, or it might be something else. If it is an error shock, there might be too much air in it.
hoohoohoblin it’s alright now I found the problem. It was the tyre pressure cos it was really high and it was really hard every time the front wheel went down a rock or a curb or something. It works a treat now anyway because I let some air loose a bit to make the tyres absorb a bit. Thanks anyway
I have the same problem. Really hard to make the fork slide down. When i try to lift my front wheel it makes a thud sound. Will try to loosen some air. How much gauge do you think is the perfect one?
Beej Sanchez If you have air shocks it could be there’s too much air pumped into your shock otherwise it could be locked out, it should have nothing to do with rude pressure
I was on a trail and tested them by jumping off a bridge. About three feet up and ten feet out, which isn't massive. I landed on the bar...I kinda wish I had a step thru bike after that
My daughter has very similar SR Suntour suspension. I've just got a tool to loosen them as they we too tight to do by hand without damaging the bike. However I've totally undone the top cap and the suspension has absolutely no springiness to it. Do you have to undo the nut at the bottom of the suspension fork too?
Some forks have a lockout switch on the top of the tube. If the lockout is turned on, the fork doesn’t bounce at all, and if you turn it off, the fork bounces. The one in the video does not have a lock out, but maybe yours does. I think it would be on the top of the fork though.
@@hoohoohoblin mine doesn't either. I'm going to give the shop I bought the bike from a call and see what they suggest as it only has 10mm travel and should have 50mm. Yours in comparison is really springy.
Does anyone know if there are any instructions for servicing and maintenance of this fork? I want to buy a 2nd hand mtb that has this fork, and I believe that it could use some maintenance before usage, but I cannot find any instructions on how to do it. Thanks in advance! By the way, thank you for this video, it resolved all my suspicions on how to adjust the fork :D
You’re welcome. I need to make a video about that. I’m sure someone else has done it as well. I know that these forks are serviceable. They actually come with extra rubber wipers for the top.
my 2020 suntour XCT fork does not even bounce. And I hear that this is "normal" but it completely defeats the purpose of suspension. I wish I have this old XCT fork.
Do you know if theres any fork suspension upgrade I can do to this bike? I ride some trails every now and then nothing to crazy but i would like a better suspension, love the bike got it as a gift for my birthday
I was thinking the same thing about my bike. Good forks will cost more than the bike is worth if you buy new ones, but if you want some forks that are a little better but not the best, you could look on eBay for someone who bought a bike with good forks with compression and rebound adjustment, and then took the forks off while they were still new so they could upgrade to really good forks. This way you'll get some new forks that are much better than the stock ones, but won't have to pay a new price.
I purchased a new Aventon Level E Bike in Mar 2022, it has the cheap zoom fork, after about 2 weeks the front fork makes a clunk sound when going over some bumps and it's pissing me off, it does not do this when it's locked out though, does anyone know what the issue is? Or even an upgrade fork the would fit this bike? Thanks John
hello sorry for the late comment but can you help me? my suntour fork which is like yours has the preload adjuster, the caps, are stuck and can’t turn so my suspension is stuck on being stiff and not bouncy please answer
+Sean Kieser Castro Positive means more spring tension, and negative means less spring tension. If you have it cranked up towards positive, the fork will bounce less, and it will be more bouncy if you crank it towards the positive setting.
This fork has been fine for me i guess you can just get lucky on how long it last. ive been jumping and hitting rocky trails. Its good if you want to exercise going up mountains. watchs the speeds going down hill .
It is pretty tough. The problem I had with it is that it wasn’t very adjustable, and it was bottoming out all the time on fast downhill runs. But even with all the bottom out and clanking around, I couldn’t break it. It’s a decent fork for an entry level mountain bike, and it’s good for medium speed riding off road. That being said, the rockshox recon silver fork I bought to replace it is significantly better Under all conditions.
Any good replacement for those? I bought a cheap mtb, but everything else seems pretty nice except the forks, and as much as i adjust them they are jumping. Thanks
Mine is from about 2017 or so but the adjustment plus / minus is only in the left side. On the right there's a lockout. So while I adjusted on the left, it seems like I can't adjust it on the right, correct? And by the way I love having the lockout knob.
If you were looking for a really good affordable air fork, I really like the Manitu Markhor fork. It’s cheap, but it is really good. I’ve been riding my bike with this fork in Colorado and Utah this week, and it works great.
most of the big box store bikes' suspension does not come with adjustable suspension fork. check the manuals before you do anything. I had Merax Finiss which didn't even have a manual or proper info about suspension lol. but it's a good bike for weekend ride and little bit of trail riding.
I don’t know if they sell replacement parts or not, as it is a pretty cheap fork. On mine they adjuster made no difference anyway, so I don’t think I would worry about it if it fell off.
@@hoohoohoblin Oh, I actually broke the adjuster knob while the preload was at max position 😓 & so the suspension is seized up, in my region(India) the spare part isn't available and these suspensions are considered premium imports 🥺
I have a coil fork and there is only one knob on the fork. And my problem is that my fork squeaks like crazy. Is that because it's almost brand new or is it broken?
+Jake Kaim it is probably because it's new, and it might be the rubber seals squeaking. You could try squirting a little bit of oil on the fork legs and see if quiets down.
You’re right that it does absorb the shock. The better forks have compression and rebound damping, and also give you the ability to adjust the compression and rebound damping so it works the way you want it to. And you can also adjust the spring tension as well.
Hi there I’ve got sr suntour xce 28 off a trek marlin 5 it sounds like it has water in it and also leaks water or something does this fork have fork fluid in it or not thanks Nathan
I have 2 pre loads , im trying to reset to soft then go from there , the right twister will get to the reset point (where you cant turn left anymore) but my left one will go on forever without stopping so how do i know they are at same levels
@@hoohoohoblin I found out its only the rightside that does preload you can hear the tension springs , but the left side does the travel you can't hear spring with that one , so it's mainly the right side used more often, and I noticed the difference once I set it from soft to hard using the right side on the suntour xct 30 shocks
You should be able to make it less bouncy by cranking up the preload and also by moving the lock lever closer to lock position. Some bikes have a lock that is an on and off switch, and other ones lock more as you move it closer to the locked position. Not sure what kind of fork you have.
I have a similar problem right now. My cheap suspension have preload adjusment, it was to hard to turn it by hand so I use a adjustable wrench. I think i broke it because now it turn almost freely to any ways (doesn't even click).
have an XCT fork but with one dial and it is stuck and will not turn.it is the fork that came on my 2014 giant talon, so maybe it is just wearing out with age.
Just got a Marlin 5 with SR Suntour XCE 28, coil spring. Every time i pull up the for drops about 1/2" and i can feel it slam. I have it dialed all the way clockwise already to reduce travel. Is there any remedy for this "fork drop" ?
Probably not. These cheap forks don’t have much adjustment. You might be able to open it up and take it apart and jam something in there like a section of PVC pipe to create more spring tension.
im only 45kg, and my sr suntour xcm is so stiff that its basically a rigid bike at this point, if I use all my energy and weight while on the bike pushing the fork down, it moves about 20%, I would feel the every bump and if I ride naturally the suspension doesnt have sag whatsoever, the preload is at its lightest, and its been annoying me a lot and I dont really know what to do at this point, do I have to buy a new air shock so that I could adjust the air pressure?
It probably isn’t very adjustable. Online, the adjuster doesn’t do much, if anything. The newer models might be better. A lock out is supposed to make the fork not bounce if you like it, and bounce if you unlock it.
There’s not much you can do. They didn’t build any adjustments into it. You might be able to take it apart and jam something in above the spring to create more spring tension. Maybe a short piece of PVC pipe.
Some absolute a***hole stole my suspension forks and handlebar recently from my Diamondback 3.0 sync. I don’t know much about bikes. It originally had these suntour xct suspension forks. Is it fairly easily compatible with other suntour forks or will it have to be these again?
That's terrible. Living in Los Angeles, I'm always afraid my bike will be gone when I leave it somewhere. I peeled all the RockShox stickers off of my fork so thieves won't know what it is. My son has had 2 of his bikes stolen. Your bike has a 1 1/8" headest on it. so any fork that size will fit. Depending on how much hard riding you do, you may want to put a better fork on it than stock. But if you want a basic Suntory XCT or XCR fork, you can find used ones cheap on eBay from people who took them off to upgrade to a better fork, or you could ask a local bike shop if they have any entry-level used forks they've taken off of customers' bikes.
I bought a bike a few days ago, the mechanic said the suspension was tightened a lot so it’s really hard to twist the adjuster, does that mean the tightness can damage the suspension?
Styrofoam, polystyrene (non-biodegradeable) packing peanuts (smaller the better) coated in oil. Packed tightly inside the empty sections of the tube, works as a damper for the spring while still allowing flex. REPLY
Thanks! By the way, the work says I need a 9mm quick release axle. I currently have a 32H axle. Do you know a kit that I could buy so I could convert the 32H axle to the 9mm QR?
On my voodoo nzumbi i have this fork but only like one nob on one side, one is to release air one is too lock the suspension, how am i supposed to release air from one side and does it even for the other side or?
I have a GT aggressor pro mtb with a suspension fork similar to this one, I have it on the lowest setting possible I think, but it still feels extremely stiff and not a lot of flexibility, is it broken or am I doing something wrong?
I took this bike to Snow Summit and did a ski lift downhill course for a day, and it survived. It made a lot of noise and bottomed out, but it didn’t break.
On mine it seems to click forever, but it doesn’t make any difference in how the fork works. I’m not sure it creates much spring tension even if it is working properly.
Yes, it is. I wish my video got as many views. Ha ha! It is a really great bike. I’ve put a lot of miles on it and even taking it down hilling, and haven’t broken it yet. I did upgrade the fork pretty soon after I got it with a rockshox Recon.
how to equalize the pressure on both the sides ? I bought an MTB from a friend and it has a sr suntour XCM, and I don't know what settings he has done ?
This fork doesn’t have many adjustments. There’s just that one adjuster on the top of the fork that you turn to make the spring a little bit tighter, but it makes almost no difference.
When i turn mine it unscrews itself from the shock and i messed with it and it is stuck as hard as possible st survivor 30? It came on my giant talon 2
why is my xct fork different than yours? it only has one preload and a lock on the other side. i tried turning it both ways but there seems to be no difference
@@hoohoohoblin nope. Suntour comes with 2 different types of xct. The one comes with a bike have 2 preload. The retail ones have a preload on one side, and lockout on the other side.
Clockwise puts more pressure on the spring, and counterclockwise puts less pressure on the spring. There is no damping adjustment on this fork, so it bounces the same speed, but there will be more spring resistance if you have it cranked all the way down counterclockwise. So it will not bottom out as easily.
I agree. I took these SunTour forks off my bike and replaced them with a $200 rock shocks recon silver fork, and it works great. I’ve taken it downhill at Snow Summit, and it performs better than the rest of the bike.
I used to race in the early 00s and haven't rode in 20 years. Just picked up a cheap 29er with this fork and its actually great. No worse that what used to be high end back in the day. Its a pogo but it feels good and I always prefer coil spring to air. For a basic cheap ass fork with virtually no useful adjustments its pretty damn good and perfectly good on moderate single track.
CLOCKWISE = LESS BOUNCY
Yeah....seriously, thanks. Save me from having to replay 3 times.
Does turning it all the way on both sides clockwise lock the fork?
@@dailyblankscreen7938 i think yes, when i turn it to the right all the way, it's hammer like tough...
Thanks
Lefty loosey, righty tighty I always remember it like that
Thank you! I've had a specialized for 2 years and didn't know that was a feature!
You’re welcome
I think my old 2008 Trek 3700 has this system.
The user manual recommends leaving them set to factory settings.
These older entry-level light-duty bikes weren't intended for deadly terrain.
I stand on the pedals and use bent legs and arms as shock absorbers.
Yes sir that's why I like hardtails and not full suspension for sure If I had a million Dollars that I would build me a hardail 😅😅😅😅😅
If I had a million I would build a full suspension for somebody else and give it away🎉🎉🎉
lol i laughed hard when your son took the jump. good style
+charlie renegade Thanks!
The sticker is a CYA thing for Suntour and the oil on the stanchions is pretty normal. They're not nearly as terrible as forks found on Walmart bikes, but they sometimes fall apart after going off of large drops.
"We got the warranty"
*Trades in bike after 1 week*
"ahh yeah it uhh..started to malfunction.."
Thank you for that easy explanation.
You’re welcome
Thanks for your video and demonstration, I come from adjusting motorcycles. There is a click every 20 degrees. this click at 180 degrees I thought the suspension was broken... now I need to preload :D
a big greeting from spain ^.^
You’re welcome. I don’t think any of the adjustments on this fork actually work.
@@hoohoohoblin its works! 😉😊
How do you know if they are the same if you don't pay attention
Make them fully loose and then adjust equally
I had the same problem
Max them in one direction?
@@5wisher5weet Yep, that's what I do
i have this fork, one side is quite stiff but turns but the other side moves easily and it never stops turning and it clicks very lightly
That sounds about right. That’s what mine did too. I don’t know if any of the turning made a difference. The adjustment on this fork is pretty sketchy and low quality. But we took it to one of those ski lift mountain bike parks and rode all day with it, and it didn’t break, so it is plenty tough.
Same
@@vegetasan2716 right side is preload only (to make soft or hard) left side is travel you won't notice anything really with the left one
Ignore these matching clicks no need on these shocks that's only used on high end shocks like Rockshox etc
Hi mate can someone help me , I've lost track of the turns on either side and hesitant to crank it all the way up or down ,is this okay ,or how do I "reset" this ....✌
I just did that on mine. I had it all the way open. It took 8 half turns to all the way closed. Then I opened it 4 half turns for a starting point. I saw on an ebike forum that your forks should compress 1/3 of the travel sitting on your bike with all your weight on it. That fork has 100mm travel so 1/3 would be 33mm. He suggested put a zip tie around the fork and push the zip tie all the way down. Then compress with your weight and measure to the bottom of the zip tie. Adjust fork as necessary to achieve 33mm.
I just bought an e-bike it has these kind of shocks but the caps pop off and the shocks are Halllow! No locking mechanism. Is this a manufacturer error, or do they make shocks like this? They ride nice, I just ride on flat surfaces, but are these a type of shock forks? They do havr a Phillips head screw at the bottom of them,....idk weird, any comments would be greatly appreciated
the spring inside is what absorbes energy of compressing the spring! so technically yes it is a inner spring shock. Not a coil over gas shock! Yeah like you quoted. it pretty standard shock. inner spring shock!
I saw a suntour XCT with a lockout, so are each years models of the XCT different?
I hope so. They really should be improving these forks every few years.
yea mine on my rockhopper comp has a lockout
there's a lockout version for XCM and XCT
Hey I’ve got a trek Marlin 7 with rockshox forks and a lockout option. It’s been recently bought about 2 weeks ago but the suspension barely goes down, it feels really hard when you lift the front wheels up and down again and it makes a big thud instead of soaking it up. I’ve but the preload option to maximum of the suspension going down but it still doesn’t work. Is it just because it’s new and I need to wear it a little bit or what? Thanks
If the lockout is turned on, then the suspense and will be hard to compress. It might be that, or it might be something else. If it is an error shock, there might be too much air in it.
hoohoohoblin it’s alright now I found the problem. It was the tyre pressure cos it was really high and it was really hard every time the front wheel went down a rock or a curb or something. It works a treat now anyway because I let some air loose a bit to make the tyres absorb a bit. Thanks anyway
I have same exact bike and it also makes a big thud when it is locket out.
I have the same problem. Really hard to make the fork slide down. When i try to lift my front wheel it makes a thud sound. Will try to loosen some air. How much gauge do you think is the perfect one?
Beej Sanchez If you have air shocks it could be there’s too much air pumped into your shock otherwise it could be locked out, it should have nothing to do with rude pressure
I was on a trail and tested them by jumping off a bridge. About three feet up and ten feet out, which isn't massive. I landed on the bar...I kinda wish I had a step thru bike after that
My daughter has very similar SR Suntour suspension. I've just got a tool to loosen them as they we too tight to do by hand without damaging the bike. However I've totally undone the top cap and the suspension has absolutely no springiness to it. Do you have to undo the nut at the bottom of the suspension fork too?
Some forks have a lockout switch on the top of the tube. If the lockout is turned on, the fork doesn’t bounce at all, and if you turn it off, the fork bounces. The one in the video does not have a lock out, but maybe yours does. I think it would be on the top of the fork though.
@@hoohoohoblin mine doesn't either. I'm going to give the shop I bought the bike from a call and see what they suggest as it only has 10mm travel and should have 50mm.
Yours in comparison is really springy.
Rohan your answered the question. Crank up or down could be ...
If the nob is unable to turn anymore does that mean it's at the maximum setting?
+ᗩᖇTEᗰIᔕ 🌛 Yes.
hoohoohoblin thanks
Hi :-) I got a bike with suntour XCM fork 100mm. There are 2 preload button. Does it mean that they are 2 ressorts?
Does anyone know if there are any instructions for servicing and maintenance of this fork? I want to buy a 2nd hand mtb that has this fork, and I believe that it could use some maintenance before usage, but I cannot find any instructions on how to do it. Thanks in advance!
By the way, thank you for this video, it resolved all my suspicions on how to adjust the fork :D
You’re welcome. I need to make a video about that. I’m sure someone else has done it as well. I know that these forks are serviceable. They actually come with extra rubber wipers for the top.
@@hoohoohoblin I bought a bike used and apparently has been in a collision. The steerer tube is bent below the frame. Can that come out?
Great short, quick video!👍 Thank you
You’re welcome
Is there an upper and lower limit to the adjustment knobs? Will it break if I turn it too much?
On my fork, it just spins forever, and it doesn’t seem to do anything at all.
What happenes if u accidentally twist one more than the other. Can u reverse ur mistake
bro did you find our how to fix it? i did that by accident 😅
Twist counterclockwise 🔄 = more soft
Twist clock wise = more stiff ?
yep
So my suspension will work better if i move it counterclockwise?
1:10 I died from laughing haha
my 2020 suntour XCT fork does not even bounce. And I hear that this is "normal" but it completely defeats the purpose of suspension. I wish I have this old XCT fork.
Bro same
How much do you weigh
@@bradyfitzgerald8370 182 pounds
same mines rock hard so it feels like i dont even have suspension, its on the easiest preload aswell
Do you know if theres any fork suspension upgrade I can do to this bike? I ride some trails every now and then nothing to crazy but i would like a better suspension, love the bike got it as a gift for my birthday
I was thinking the same thing about my bike. Good forks will cost more than the bike is worth if you buy new ones, but if you want some forks that are a little better but not the best, you could look on eBay for someone who bought a bike with good forks with compression and rebound adjustment, and then took the forks off while they were still new so they could upgrade to really good forks. This way you'll get some new forks that are much better than the stock ones, but won't have to pay a new price.
Can you lock out this fork? Mine is the exact same as yours and I can’t find the answer anywhere but you had the most helpful video by far.
Nope. It only has a little thingy that you turn to tighten up the tension on the springs, but it barely makes any difference.
Okay thank you so much!
I have this fork and I’m riding black diamonds and it’s holding up fine
I hope you’re wearing body armor and a full face helmet.
I purchased a new Aventon Level E Bike in Mar 2022, it has the cheap
zoom fork, after about 2 weeks the front fork makes a clunk sound when
going over some bumps and it's
pissing me off, it does not do this when it's locked out though, does
anyone know what the issue is? Or even an upgrade fork the would fit
this bike? Thanks John
hello sorry for the late comment but can you help me? my suntour fork which is like yours has the preload adjuster, the caps, are stuck and can’t turn so my suspension is stuck on being stiff and not bouncy please answer
Maybe try spraying some WD-40 on them. Maybe they are stuck. You could try using pliers, but that plastic isn’t very strong.
@@hoohoohoblin thanks I’ll try it
do you have positive(+) and negative (-) sign in your fork? whats the meaning of it??
+Sean Kieser Castro Positive means more spring tension, and negative means less spring tension. If you have it cranked up towards positive, the fork will bounce less, and it will be more bouncy if you crank it towards the positive setting.
Good
@@hoohoohoblin wait should it be more positive for jumps or negative for jumps
@@neiltbf ask your wife/girlfriend what she prefers
@@hoohoohoblin "...If you have it cranked up towards *NEGATIVE, the fork will bounce less, and...
more bouncy.. towards the positive setting."
This fork has been fine for me i guess you can just get lucky on how long it last. ive been jumping and hitting rocky trails. Its good if you want to exercise going up mountains. watchs the speeds going down hill .
It is pretty tough. The problem I had with it is that it wasn’t very adjustable, and it was bottoming out all the time on fast downhill runs. But even with all the bottom out and clanking around, I couldn’t break it. It’s a decent fork for an entry level mountain bike, and it’s good for medium speed riding off road. That being said, the rockshox recon silver fork I bought to replace it is significantly better Under all conditions.
@@hoohoohoblin where did you buy that from?
Any good replacement for those? I bought a cheap mtb, but everything else seems pretty nice except the forks, and as much as i adjust them they are jumping. Thanks
I really like the Manitou Markhor forks. They are a lot lighter and work great.
The Buklos air fork on Amazon is a good one
@@HighVybeTribe they seem nice. Do you have them on your bike?
Mine is from about 2017 or so but the adjustment plus / minus is only in the left side. On the right there's a lockout. So while I adjusted on the left, it seems like I can't adjust it on the right, correct? And by the way I love having the lockout knob.
Correct.
How do you know if it’s balanced?
Same question
Yay now i can use my carrera properly
Slender Man I’ve got a carerra vengeance. I’m twisting the clicker thing but it’s not making a difference
ive got a carrera vengeance and it works for me how old is yours
Cameron Boyle same mate
thanks for the video. what do you recommend for a upgrade? 29" 100 travel
If you were looking for a really good affordable air fork, I really like the Manitu Markhor fork. It’s cheap, but it is really good. I’ve been riding my bike with this fork in Colorado and Utah this week, and it works great.
@@hoohoohoblin Thanks so much I will check it out. I live in Jamaica so even on some of our secondary road looks like.ruff road
@@hoohoohoblin What about the suntour raidon with the upgrade program?
My suspension fork doesn’t have a knob to adjust it, do I just use a spanner to move it or?
most of the big box store bikes' suspension does not come with adjustable suspension fork. check the manuals before you do anything. I had Merax Finiss which didn't even have a manual or proper info about suspension lol. but it's a good bike for weekend ride and little bit of trail riding.
@Josh Ford I dont have a knob too, did you find a way to adjust it without the knob?
So my preload knob just broke/tore, it just came in my hand while adjusting it.
Any idea how I can repair it.
I don’t know if they sell replacement parts or not, as it is a pretty cheap fork. On mine they adjuster made no difference anyway, so I don’t think I would worry about it if it fell off.
@@hoohoohoblin Oh, I actually broke the adjuster knob while the preload was at max position 😓
& so the suspension is seized up, in my region(India) the spare part isn't available and these suspensions are considered premium imports 🥺
What do you do if you accidentally adjusted one but not the other? Am I screwed?
Lol same
I have a coil fork and there is only one knob on the fork. And my problem is that my fork squeaks like crazy. Is that because it's almost brand new or is it broken?
+Jake Kaim it is probably because it's new, and it might be the rubber seals squeaking. You could try squirting a little bit of oil on the fork legs and see if quiets down.
Can you explain how this is NOT a shock absorber? It absorbs shock doesn’t it? What is the difference
You’re right that it does absorb the shock. The better forks have compression and rebound damping, and also give you the ability to adjust the compression and rebound damping so it works the way you want it to. And you can also adjust the spring tension as well.
Hi there I’ve got sr suntour xce 28 off a trek marlin 5 it sounds like it has water in it and also leaks water or something does this fork have fork fluid in it or not thanks Nathan
There is a little bit of oil in it, but there isn’t any hydraulic fluid.
@@hoohoohoblin thank you yes it sounds really full of water and it’s really heavy
When i got the bike i just circeled on side of fork so now when i jump or just raise and lower it hardly it makes noise.What should i do?
I have 2 pre loads , im trying to reset to soft then go from there , the right twister will get to the reset point (where you cant turn left anymore) but my left one will go on forever without stopping so how do i know they are at same levels
They probably don’t work at all. These are pretty bad and I don’t notice much difference.
@@hoohoohoblin I found out its only the rightside that does preload you can hear the tension springs , but the left side does the travel you can't hear spring with that one , so it's mainly the right side used more often, and I noticed the difference once I set it from soft to hard using the right side on the suntour xct 30 shocks
My mountain bike has preload on the left and a blue lock/open thing how do I adjust it do the fork is bouncy for trails
You should be able to make it less bouncy by cranking up the preload and also by moving the lock lever closer to lock position. Some bikes have a lock that is an on and off switch, and other ones lock more as you move it closer to the locked position. Not sure what kind of fork you have.
hoohoohoblin it’s a specialized pitch fork 1x
i have a problem with my suspencion. i cant twist the preload neither + nor - . what should i do? its like its stuck
I don’t know. These are pretty poorly made, and turning it one way or the other doesn’t make much difference anyway.
I use one of those twisty wrench thingies and clamp it on the cap and twist it because i have the same problem
I have a similar problem right now. My cheap suspension have preload adjusment, it was to hard to turn it by hand so I use a adjustable wrench. I think i broke it because now it turn almost freely to any ways (doesn't even click).
have an XCT fork but with one dial and it is stuck and will not turn.it is the fork that came on my 2014 giant talon, so maybe it is just wearing out with age.
Just got a Marlin 5 with SR Suntour XCE 28, coil spring. Every time i pull up the for drops about 1/2" and i can feel it slam. I have it dialed all the way clockwise already to reduce travel. Is there any remedy for this "fork drop" ?
Probably not. These cheap forks don’t have much adjustment. You might be able to open it up and take it apart and jam something in there like a section of PVC pipe to create more spring tension.
im only 45kg, and my sr suntour xcm is so stiff that its basically a rigid bike at this point, if I use all my energy and weight while on the bike pushing the fork down, it moves about 20%, I would feel the every bump and if I ride naturally the suspension doesnt have sag whatsoever, the preload is at its lightest, and its been annoying me a lot and I dont really know what to do at this point, do I have to buy a new air shock so that I could adjust the air pressure?
It is a pretty terrible shock, and you don’t have much adjustment capability on it. The best thing would be to upgrade to a good air fork.
I have a lockout on one side how do I adjust the thing
It probably isn’t very adjustable. Online, the adjuster doesn’t do much, if anything. The newer models might be better. A lock out is supposed to make the fork not bounce if you like it, and bounce if you unlock it.
@@hoohoohoblin that’s true but I’m a bit sad that I can’t adjust the thing 😕
Does turning it clockwise makes it more bouncy?
Turning it clockwise increases the spring tension, which makes it less bouncy.
Anything to make this fork not top out? Trying to live with it for now but it slams the top way too easy.
There’s not much you can do. They didn’t build any adjustments into it. You might be able to take it apart and jam something in above the spring to create more spring tension. Maybe a short piece of PVC pipe.
Some absolute a***hole stole my suspension forks and handlebar recently from my Diamondback 3.0 sync. I don’t know much about bikes. It originally had these suntour xct suspension forks. Is it fairly easily compatible with other suntour forks or will it have to be these again?
That's terrible. Living in Los Angeles, I'm always afraid my bike will be gone when I leave it somewhere. I peeled all the RockShox stickers off of my fork so thieves won't know what it is. My son has had 2 of his bikes stolen. Your bike has a 1 1/8" headest on it. so any fork that size will fit. Depending on how much hard riding you do, you may want to put a better fork on it than stock. But if you want a basic Suntory XCT or XCR fork, you can find used ones cheap on eBay from people who took them off to upgrade to a better fork, or you could ask a local bike shop if they have any entry-level used forks they've taken off of customers' bikes.
Hey man, Which fork will be better XCM or XCT both being 100mm.
I think the XCM is a little bit better.
@@hoohoohoblin xcm is miles better !
jhmtb what are your thoughts on the xcm
I bought a bike a few days ago, the mechanic said the suspension was tightened a lot so it’s really hard to twist the adjuster, does that mean the tightness can damage the suspension?
It should be fine. It is just hard to turn because the spring is compressed a lot.
hoohoohoblin thank you, anyway to fix it? What should I ask my mechanic? I can not turn it at all, I keep overthinking on what’s going to happen
hoohoohoblin it’s easier to turn now because I kept trying to move it, I think it was stiff because I just bought the bike a week ago
same happened to my carrera vengeance i had to turn it with a plase and its fine now i think its becase it was tightened all the way
Mohammad Ishaq that’s the bike I bought, in orange
Styrofoam, polystyrene (non-biodegradeable) packing peanuts (smaller the better) coated in oil. Packed tightly inside the empty sections of the tube, works as a damper for the spring while still allowing flex.
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My nob doesnt click is that because its a different brand or is there something else i have to do before adjusting it?
It may be broken. These things are pretty flimsy.
what happens if both sides are uneven how can you make them both the same ?
Turn them all the way one direction and count how many clicks each one moves to the final adjustment.
@@1PotatoeMasher1 thank you!
I’m 11, weighing 80-90, and own a giant xtc Jr 24” lite. (Rigid fork version) how would the suntour xct 24” do?
It would probably be about the same. It is a basic beginner fork with few adjustments.
Thanks! By the way, the work says I need a 9mm quick release axle. I currently have a 32H axle. Do you know a kit that I could buy so I could convert the 32H axle to the 9mm QR?
Thanks so much!!! ♥️♥️♥️
You’re welcome.
hoohoohoblin it didn't change anything tho ☹️
Are these forks tapered or straight?
They are straight. They probably make tapered ones now. This was a long time ago.
guys i can rotate mine until the preload button comes out completely(then suspension is really loose) , is this normal?
Lol I got oil coming out from a couple bunny hops
That’s normal!
how is it when the preload adjuster itself is removed, you can get it back?
I don’t know. I didn’t try to take it apart.
On my voodoo nzumbi i have this fork but only like one nob on one side, one is to release air one is too lock the suspension, how am i supposed to release air from one side and does it even for the other side or?
On forks that have an air valve on the top, there is only one air in one of the legs, but it should be enough to support the whole bike.
I have a GT aggressor pro mtb with a suspension fork similar to this one, I have it on the lowest setting possible I think, but it still feels extremely stiff and not a lot of flexibility, is it broken or am I doing something wrong?
This fork doesn’t have much adjustability at all, if any. I don’t think you’re doing anything wrong. It’s just a bad design.
@@hoohoohoblin ok thanks
What does the little nob on the bottom of the fork do?
You ever find out? I'm wondering if it's rebound damping?
we have the warranty! LOL HAHAHAH
“We have the warranty” 😂
If you turn it to the plus side , does that mean harder or softer ?
+Ethan Romasanta Plus means harder. It cranks down on the spring, making the spring tighter.
Ending was priceless lol
Thanks!
You're Charlie Winklemans dad? Mind blown!
Yes.
What is the suspension fork called that you have got because there is a lot of different ones
It is the basic Suntour XCT fork. It only has preload adjustment.
i just got a bike giant bike for my birthday and only put the preload on one side a lot higher then the other how do i know how much to turn back
Maybe you can tighten both until they stop, and then back them off equal amounts.
Ole Winkleman at it again
That sticker is just there so they don’t get sued you can use it for rougher stuff and it seems like it does absorb shock
I took this bike to Snow Summit and did a ski lift downhill course for a day, and it survived. It made a lot of noise and bottomed out, but it didn’t break.
hoohoohoblin how much travel it’s got?
So clockwise is softer and clock is harder ?
Javier chaparro No,Clockwise is harder and Counter Clockwise is softer
i only have 1 preload on the left and a lockout on the right on my Suntour XCT
SAME
Same
@Jonathan Volvo does not make a XC30. Only XC60, 40 and 90 :-)
Same
Same
How many clicks? Mine seems to have only 3
On mine it seems to click forever, but it doesn’t make any difference in how the fork works. I’m not sure it creates much spring tension even if it is working properly.
How wide are the stachions?
Hey that’s the same diamondback that Seth fixes up
Yes, it is. I wish my video got as many views. Ha ha! It is a really great bike. I’ve put a lot of miles on it and even taking it down hilling, and haven’t broken it yet. I did upgrade the fork pretty soon after I got it with a rockshox Recon.
how to equalize the pressure on both the sides ? I bought an MTB from a friend and it has a sr suntour XCM, and I don't know what settings he has done ?
+ketan Shah A lot of these forks only have air pressure or spring adjustment on one side. You don't need to adjust the other side.
hoohoohoblin thanks :) i guess thats the case in mine
little old ladies going to church lool
"we have the warranty, so, I mean..." hahaha
how to custom adjust bicycle fork? i feel it too hard for me..
This fork doesn’t have many adjustments. There’s just that one adjuster on the top of the fork that you turn to make the spring a little bit tighter, but it makes almost no difference.
Can you turn both of them at the same time?
Yes, but they don’t make much difference.
Which way I've to rotate In order to increase it
Clockwise, but I don’t think it makes very much difference at all.
My forks one doesn’t spin unless I use pliers or a huge wrench to turn it
When i turn mine it unscrews itself from the shock and i messed with it and it is stuck as hard as possible st survivor 30? It came on my giant talon 2
Sr suntour*
why is my xct fork different than yours? it only has one preload and a lock on the other side. i tried turning it both ways but there seems to be no difference
They may have changed the design over the years. Mine is from 2016.
@@hoohoohoblin nope. Suntour comes with 2 different types of xct. The one comes with a bike have 2 preload. The retail ones have a preload on one side, and lockout on the other side.
Does twisting the preload the negative direction increase the amount of suspension/shock absorption?
Clockwise puts more pressure on the spring, and counterclockwise puts less pressure on the spring. There is no damping adjustment on this fork, so it bounces the same speed, but there will be more spring resistance if you have it cranked all the way down counterclockwise. So it will not bottom out as easily.
Thanks so much
You’re welcome
On my bike it has an on and off switch is it still the same
Luke Wilson that’s probably your suspension lock. If u twist it to off, do your forks decompress?
Great! Everything it said not to do on the yellow sticker, I did!!! But I’m pretty sure I broke all of my head tube bearings. Bummer.
This fork can take a pretty good beating, but it isn’t a very good fork.
That is pretty true
What about the adjuster underneath the fork leg ?
Rebound adjustment? There is none on this beginner fork.
Shit my 200$ rockshox have been a trooper on some nasty trails and jumps landing to flat sometimes lol ...they are amazing for the price
I agree. I took these SunTour forks off my bike and replaced them with a $200 rock shocks recon silver fork, and it works great. I’ve taken it downhill at Snow Summit, and it performs better than the rest of the bike.