The Operation that Ruined My Life - BBC Panorama

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  • @rosemarygriffin2184
    @rosemarygriffin2184 5 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I can remember asking my GP for this mesh a good few year's ago. He refused point blank, telling me, that I really didn't want to have this done. It makes me wonder just what he knew about it then, but wasn't saying. Needless to say, I never had it done, and I am so glad that I didn't, I feel very much for these women always in pain.

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I thought about it too. Thank God I’m a procrastinator

    • @gabrielsalvador334
      @gabrielsalvador334 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Planned parenthood are BABY KILLERS.😠MURDERS

    • @gabrielsalvador334
      @gabrielsalvador334 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good doctor

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gabrielsalvador334 Good thing no will ever force an abortion on you, feel free to never have one! Or never go to Planned Parenthood for anything! Isn't choice awesome?!? Unlike in China where you can get dragged off the street and your pregnancy forcibly terminated in the last trimester! You may not like the choice some women make but it's better than your proposal of no choice or the Chinese forcing it upon you!
      Now run along and go do some research on forced Chinese abortions to *appreciate* CHOICE!

    • @shaz1731
      @shaz1731 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      im glad u didnt have it! i had it and now i have to have it removed which can lead to more problems. i am in constant pain always running a temperature and im numb down below.

  • @spiritualtruthseeker1947
    @spiritualtruthseeker1947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    My doctor told me the surgery was problematic and experimental. She said women were often experiencing complications worse than the original post natal stress incontinence. I was told to increase my kegal exercises and forget about the surgery. I am so grateful I had a well informed & honest doctor. (This happened in the US - not sure if UK docs are permitted to speak out like this against a common procedure.)

  • @kvdme
    @kvdme 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I had bladder repair in 1996. No mess. My doctor made a sling out of skin. He did do a suture to hold it up till it healed. Had to have it removed but other than that, I'm still right as rain. Sorry anyone suffering.

    • @kvdme
      @kvdme 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Goodman I still have it to this day. I had extensive rebuild due to childbirth. The bladder repair was just one of 5 procedures I had. I was stitched up all over but he did an excellent job and I have zero issues. I had to catheterize myself for 6 weeks after. It is a matter of a skilled surgeon. I was deformed for lack of a better word after childbirth. Rectum, vagina, bladder... I lived with it for 19 years.

    • @tanyabrown9839
      @tanyabrown9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Goodman I thought Vicki was refering to the suture being removed not the skin sling

  • @bluevictory1010
    @bluevictory1010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Just the thought of mesh in soft tissue always made me cringe. I could never understand why doctors thought this would be safe??

    • @SaBoTeUr2001
      @SaBoTeUr2001 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As they said, it has been successfully used before in hernia repair. The body's normal reaction to a foreign body (like these implants) is to coat it with material that is essentially scar tissue, which shields and protects nearby tissues and organs.

    • @yandunker4273
      @yandunker4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trusting your layman view is right.
      It saved me too many times. 25 years ago, after 3 Pills of statins I stopped them forever. Despite extremely high value later, up to 400 600 1000 I still live healthy and after an intensive cardivascular investigation or test they said "anything OK". Today studies show that those taking the pills die sooner.
      But once I took pain pills that did not work at all in a neck prolaps, because the MD told me they also would act anti-infectously. They did not. A large dose of enzymes brought a 80% pain-releave breakthrough immediately. A self-developped physiotherapy learned from the Basics learned from a good physiotherapist brought the rest of 20 % away in 2 month. Problem solved. If I get today problems when staring too long with stiff neck on the Computer, I make a few movements I learned this time and problems solved again.
      They are the professionals and when they smell money and Honor, they will find something to convince you.

  • @theeggtimertictic1136
    @theeggtimertictic1136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Be very skeptical when a Company calls itself Ethicon!

    • @yandunker4273
      @yandunker4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are in need of such a name!! ;-)

  • @AvieMare
    @AvieMare 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My husband had mesh for an inguinal groin hernia. He has permanent nerve damage in his groin and leg. I have a rectocele and have not begun to research if I want surgery or not. I need to investigate the newer techniques. My heart goes out to these poor women. They thought they were getting healed. Instead they are permanently ruined.

  • @toscatattertail9813
    @toscatattertail9813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I did Kegels after my kids were born, no problem, i didn't have other issues until i suddenly gained a large amount of weight because of medications i had to take. i would rather wear adult protective pads or garments than deal with more pain in my life.

  • @Duskyberry
    @Duskyberry 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    If you say "experimental" patients aren't going to like it. WITH GOOD REASON!

  • @susiemcd3941
    @susiemcd3941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is my life. Had 2 pieces of mesh added for 2 prolapses after a total hysterectomy. Just awful because they're eroding out.

    • @sneepsnorp1404
      @sneepsnorp1404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope you get the medical help that you need!

    • @maruparra1963
      @maruparra1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can it be removed?

  • @AnitaN844
    @AnitaN844 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My mother had such a mesh installed after hernia surgery. She has never had any problems since the surgery, no pain or discomfort. Maybe she was just a lucky one.

  • @franceslock1662
    @franceslock1662 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In Australia, there have been serious issues with mesh too. Equivalence is a sham if there's insufficient data doctors shouldn't do it. Their reputation is at risk.

  • @samsmith9315
    @samsmith9315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many elements of childbirth seem so medieval. Essentially holding your organs in with a plastic sling doesn't seem a particularly thorough or permanent 😬 I feel for these poor women!

  • @carolirvine3367
    @carolirvine3367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hugs to all the women affected by this

  • @TheAcquibajo
    @TheAcquibajo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a disgrace! God bless these women. 💖

  • @phillipsmith4485
    @phillipsmith4485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The vast majority of patients who had the original, well researched, transabdominal TVT (Tension Free Vaginal Tape) have been very pleased with the results. The complications are far less than for the older incontinence procedures.
    The problem was that it was so good, and so apparently easy to insert, many less experienced surgeons took it on. The operation looks simple but a precise knowledge of the anatomy is essential, more than is required for the previous standard procedures (colposuspension etc) Any slight deviation from the original TVT device, and vital nearby structures can be traumatised, such as nerves, and the retropubic periosteum (giving pain - osteitis pubis). Also 'me too' devices came on the market (TVTO) which proved to be far less safe.
    The original TVT is superb, and should be reintroduced for experienced, well trained and assessed surgeons to offer women with proven life changing stress incontinenece.

  • @spiritualtruthseeker1947
    @spiritualtruthseeker1947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The use of mesh is also very controversial in veterinary medicine. It is promoted to vets, but many are finding its use to be very dangerous. It fuses with the surrounding tissue and increases the chance of infection. Titanium meshes are less dangerous when it comes to fusion, but they have an elevated risk of infection due to rejection.

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do worry about my cat's mesh that was installed to repair her severe umbilical hernia but the other option was to let her pregnancy continue, torsion her insides and kill her - so an emergency spay and mesh seems like a good deal especially at the low-cost clinic for $300 but I do worry that she'll be in pain and some point in her life and we will have no recourse except to spend more money to fix it, if there is a fix.....

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Unfortunately we have to start somewhere “ experiment on her and her daughter!!!

  • @randomnetfiend
    @randomnetfiend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No one gets by in life with out their body breaking down, getting injured, having an accident or getting a disease. We all go through this shit eventually. I had a botched surgery at 25. It wrecked my life. It happens to (almost) everyone. You need to find a way through it, to find something worthwhile about whats life of your body, mind, soul and life. The day I can't find anything left I'll go home.

  • @valerieventers3493
    @valerieventers3493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Prolapse Surgeon Mr.Ash Monga, Southampton U.K. is the Worlds leading expert and surgeon on mesh surgery. I had it done in January 2019, I HAVE MY LIFE BACK!!!! He is an EXPERT in PROLAPSE SURGERY. He is my hero.

  • @tedollie8580
    @tedollie8580 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Kegel exercises, all women should do them.

    • @rashone2879
      @rashone2879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely! There are women who specialize in training women how to do them correctly. Tragically, the medical world wants only to prescribe drugs and surgery. They have no interest in teaching people about exercising and way to help themselves. And too many people are happy to have easy solutions that don't involve effort on their parts.

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      LOL, it only helps so much!

    • @ophiecat
      @ophiecat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Men should tighten up too. They get incontinence also.

    • @rashone2879
      @rashone2879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@YourMom-wl3tjCreepy stuff, huh.

  • @morethanlanguage
    @morethanlanguage 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Is anyone else's sound very weird on this video? For me, the reporter's narration is very quiet while background noise is amplified.

    • @sandrabaker5930
      @sandrabaker5930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My sound is just the opposite. The narrator's voice is extremely loud, drowning out all other sounds.

    • @HannahJoy333
      @HannahJoy333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Steph Durant that’s exactly how my sound is.

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

  • @hueyperris5499
    @hueyperris5499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a good documentary but the audio mixing is trash

  • @deborahcraven6435
    @deborahcraven6435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’ve had 5 children and always did kegel exercises after each child and have no issues at all of stress incontinence , all women should be taught in hospital after giving birth on how important the exercises are , such a shame to see these ladies in such pain .

    • @22Purplemist
      @22Purplemist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's not always about simply exercising one's pelvic floor. I suffered trauma during the delivery of my son which is the case for many women. My friend suffered trauma from an abusive husband

  • @fillipinofly6021
    @fillipinofly6021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My mother in law was telling me about her mesh surgery. Unfortunately,she also told me that years and years later that when she has sex it flops out of her hoo hoo. I can't get that image out of my mind

    • @dreasmom2789
      @dreasmom2789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's a hoo hoo? Do you mean a vagina? Oh may your a child that's why you said hoo hoo.

    • @tootsx8675
      @tootsx8675 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dreasmom2789 They might not want to say vagina

  • @dion789
    @dion789 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video, but the talking is sometimes difficult to hear because of the loud background music.

  • @HomeAtLast501
    @HomeAtLast501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It really was a no-brainer that this should have been avoided.

  • @jomama5186
    @jomama5186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is so sad. I feel terrible for the people. They even use it for hernias. It hurts my heart to see these people in such terrible pain, even after it's removed. It should be banned and the Drs re-taught how to do these surgeries in the the traditional way.

  • @charliecharlton9782
    @charliecharlton9782 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Same with textured breast implants now positively linked to cancer.

    • @MrsBee-uo2lc
      @MrsBee-uo2lc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean? Maybe a link.... im scared.

  • @gretaholmes783
    @gretaholmes783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Linda Cardozo Is using a generalized weasel phrase. This product has caused so much harm, and women who decided to have procedures done the identical way that they were 33 years ago, walked away with the same results that have been achieved for decades. I always consider the first decade on the market as the actual final phase of trial. She talks about the odds is it the consequences were not permanent. There is no turning back for these people, and all of them would rather have the life that she talks about the odds as if the consequences were not permanent. And there is no turning back for these people, and all of them would rather have their lives back than lawsuits.

  • @bossywossy1
    @bossywossy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey @bbcpanorama, i think they background music was too loud on this episode. I struggled to hear the narrator at points.

  • @marytataryn5144
    @marytataryn5144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The background sound is louder than the narrator's voice.

  • @whiteeaglewarrior
    @whiteeaglewarrior 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sometimes kegel exercises have no bearing on ceratin stress incontinence issues. Saw it many a time on my surgical ward sadly.
    Also saw lots of hernia repairs and saw them performed in my time in theatres. Wotked for many but there are always exceptions to every procedure.

  • @yandunker4273
    @yandunker4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Healthcare is not for health its a business.

  • @rashone2879
    @rashone2879 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My heart goes out to those women. It is awful when you pain or a debilitating effect from a medical condition, absolutely when it was not necessary. I used to suffer form migraines...they were awful, I'd be down for 2 days, lose time on the job, and I lived always worrying about the next headache. I got no help, just medication that didn't work. No one bothered to really talk to me and examine me. Years later, I found out the awful headaches were of migraine intensity but were caused by neck problems. Physical therapy eventually helped reduced the headaches about 90 percent. I do neck exercises using a neck saddle for mild traction. It's made all the difference. But all those years...I do Kegel exercises daily which keep pelvic base muscles stronger.

  • @just-another-face-in-the-crowd
    @just-another-face-in-the-crowd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ethicon has 'con', built into the name.

  • @sweetberries683
    @sweetberries683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the music background make me sick

  • @ninahabibkhan
    @ninahabibkhan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the first time I'm listening about something like this and it's already making me uncomfortable, I'm surprised from where and how these women got courage to get it done?

  • @kittyrichardson68
    @kittyrichardson68 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for sharing

  • @michelas817
    @michelas817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you should write "tvt tape" in the video title,this way interested women could find this video BEFORE doing the surgery

  • @MotherAotearoa
    @MotherAotearoa ปีที่แล้ว

    As a person who has extremely sensitive skin, that even can feel the tiniest hair on her forearm, I won't get these kind of procedure, wouldn't bare it with my sensitive skin...

  • @sicah8898
    @sicah8898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Doctors playing god again with lots of lovely money for themselves and lots of pain for the patients. I have had bad experiences with doctors and I despise the way they treat you

  • @BetterB502
    @BetterB502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has anyone found a way to heal these women? My mom needs help! She’s giving up!!!

  • @karenmenard5633
    @karenmenard5633 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in Junior High School -- 13 years old -- and my gym teacher back in 1967 then was teaching us about kegel exercises. I also never had an bladder issues. Mom did because she skipped gym!! I kid you not, I had the same gym teacher she had!

    • @tanyabrown9839
      @tanyabrown9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the same school teacher as my mother had. My mum grew up in the city but the teacher had moved to a country area where I was growing up.

  • @nonnalovepriceless
    @nonnalovepriceless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They don’t care about patience they care just to receive money

  • @nigelwilliams9307
    @nigelwilliams9307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've become quite fond of the small soft bulge of my small inguinal hernia after hearing horror stories about surgery gone wrong. Far better to have the hernia than having a bit of plastic stitched into my groin.

  • @tanyabrown9839
    @tanyabrown9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very good for me to know. Thanks

  • @davidalexandre1163
    @davidalexandre1163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What did they use 1796 heavy cavalry sword to operate?

  • @gingercox6468
    @gingercox6468 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened to the dissolving stuff?

  • @kvdme
    @kvdme 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    My surgery was in 1998. He hasn't practiced in 15 years

  • @sarahjones-jf4pr
    @sarahjones-jf4pr ปีที่แล้ว

    ONE WORD ...DISGUSTING.

  • @leahanderson1576
    @leahanderson1576 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason why the NHS is so overworked is because they make to many mistakes.

    • @india1422
      @india1422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Verity Anderson I think it might well be the other way around

  • @bevila4753
    @bevila4753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should'nt interfere with nature of your body best option just use towels then you wont be in pain reget it after with operations the body sometimes dont like it interferes in it nature it creates problems risks stay away from mesh operations.

  • @nonnalovepriceless
    @nonnalovepriceless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had 5children
    Now I have prolapses and I’m scared to hav it fixed as I already can’t walk coz of my fybromyalgia

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can make a sling out of your own skin and use a suture or two to hold it in place until it heals up, how do you think they fix this before mesh became a thing? There was really no reason to "improve" upon that methodology except to make money....
      Get your shit fixed but be very particular about the doctor you pick and the methodology they use!

    • @janefromtennessee
      @janefromtennessee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had three of them. Never had any surgery or mesh. I'm 77 years old now.

  • @lynseyw1061
    @lynseyw1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus! The size of those hooks! 😳 Think I'd rather pee myself!

  • @Doriesep6622
    @Doriesep6622 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can get physical therapy for this problem now. Using computer and a insertion a practitioner teaches you how to firm those muscles. About ten treatments.

  • @liatpittaway4372
    @liatpittaway4372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    heard of Kegel excrcises? I did them after the birth of my daughter...problem solved......

    • @joannbowden6220
      @joannbowden6220 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did them as well, still do. Wearing a diaper right now.

    • @brielleanyez7113
      @brielleanyez7113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, exactly

  • @chicagolandable
    @chicagolandable 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 21mins 55secs..best part...the puppies.

  • @DeladisKythera
    @DeladisKythera ปีที่แล้ว

    This makes me so angry 😡😤

  • @randomnetfiend
    @randomnetfiend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    8:30 *I wouldn't even want to EAT something from America- let alone IMPLANT it permanently in my body...*

    • @spiritualtruthseeker1947
      @spiritualtruthseeker1947 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As an American, I feel the same damn way!

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lolz!

    • @happyfallen6434
      @happyfallen6434 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @esthermeya7090
      @esthermeya7090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly

    • @esthermeya7090
      @esthermeya7090 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Atlantis Returning Oh no. Im so sorry for what happened to you. I hope and pray they release a treatment to support you on this issue
      I cant imagine what your going through. Stay strong beautiful
      ..easy to say for me I know xx
      ❤❤

  • @watershedbarbie9685
    @watershedbarbie9685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems to me that doctors should grab a clue about introducing a foreign substance into the body. They probably tested it out on rats for a couple of months.

  • @lynseyw1061
    @lynseyw1061 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    $57 million? Jesus!

  • @HeleneLouise
    @HeleneLouise 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're not wearing your seatbelt

  • @PatrickFDolan
    @PatrickFDolan ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta watch the slimy lawyer too. They will say and do anything to get a class action and this lawyer here talking about "it's all about money" is rich because I know our lawyers here are also all about money.

  • @salahhamze
    @salahhamze 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a reminder, mesh maims and kills men as well.

    • @TheArnebaby
      @TheArnebaby 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Hernia Mesh took my life away.

  • @twisted6671
    @twisted6671 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    People on the internet are clearly hateful;;!!
    Stop criyin u wanted equal rights....
    Dident you!!!

  • @Beatriz-lj2td
    @Beatriz-lj2td 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Copper seven also was introduce to women and produce enormous pain, as a contraceptive.lots of bleeding, some children born with the device stuck in their bodies!! People trust doctors too much. Instead, they should make a proper investigation of the topic. per example Hysterectomy is popular operation over the '50s, promise many good things but it accelerates "menopause", many doctors are unable to advise the patient what hormones to use. They are ignorant about "hormone replacement".they are dangerous to the heart and give cancer. blood circulation diseases etc....
    This blader device is one example, many women suffer from "infections" candida being one of them.
    I will advise any young women to go to a "Naturopath" and follow a healthy lifetime and their advice. There is NO quick fix...Mistrust the "knife" doctors...

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL, you are incredibly wrong! There is absolutely no way that an IUD can become embedded into the fetus. At the most the placenta could grow over it but an IUD penetrating the amniotic sac at any point what cause a miscarriage and that's a whole nother discussion....
      The insertion method and the shape as a copper 7 was at fault, not iuds! Otherwise there wouldn't be over 30 million women with iuds...
      And that's just point out one fallacy in your assertions.
      Naturopathic physician missed my ovarian cyst when any Junior Midwife would have found it, it bursting at home unmedicated caused unGodly in lots of pain and mental anguish.
      Naturopathic Physicians are highly unskilled in some ways and shouldn't be touted as the gold standard of anything, realistically you need both in MD or at least a midwife to tend to your lady parts and as supplemental backup a naturopathic physician...

    • @tanyabrown9839
      @tanyabrown9839 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blowitoutyourcunt7675 Well I got pregnant after only 3 months of having a copper IUD inserted and the hospital WAS worried about the possibility of the IUD embedding into the fetus hence why they wanted to remove it ASAP. PLUS many years later I ended up having to have chelation due to having high COPPER levels.
      When I found out I was pregnant with the IUD and phoned the company which made the IUD, they said to me "You cant be, no one gets pregnant with those" urghhh. So I ended up having ANOTHER daughter while I was only a teen (I'd been pregnant at only 16 due to a different kind of failed birth control and then this happened with the IUD)

    • @jewels3895
      @jewels3895 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree

  • @GMT439
    @GMT439 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Proof of all CLAIMS made and who is making them in this video are required.

  • @fabrizio483
    @fabrizio483 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the procedure has been a success for the majority of patients, it means it's a good one.

    • @TheArnebaby
      @TheArnebaby 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, it’s banned now. Long term visibilty shows the risk of destroying lives is not worth it.

  • @EricaNernie
    @EricaNernie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That professor can't even keep herself healthy (note the limp). How could anyone trust her to help them with their health issues?

    • @pinkmonkeybird2644
      @pinkmonkeybird2644 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pam T. What?? So my surgeon born with achondroplastic dwarfism isn’t qualified to practice surgery simply because he’s a Little Person? A GP in the group practice I use is a paraplegic and uses a wheelchair. Is she not allowed to practice medicine because she can’t move her legs? That’s a really discriminatory statement. You don’t know a thing about the surgeon in question - maybe she’s missing a leg, has spinal issues, anything. While I agree she needs to be more cautious about these devices, i don’t agree she’s not qualified to practice medicine because she limps!

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your discrimination is showing! I have EDS and that doesn't make me any less qualified a midwife...
      Piss off please :)

  • @yvesprovencher9435
    @yvesprovencher9435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Natural medicine have some amazing ways to deal with pain and healing. They are healers. It may be worth a try. Start with a naturopathic doctor. It's helped me tremendously. It's easy for the doctor to say just pop in a mesh without a trial but it's not like she is trying one and has to deal with pain. It's really sad when people are guinea pigs. This kind of arrogance comes with a cost.
    I am talking about pain not the prolapse. I have had good results with natural medicine and diet in managing pain. There are alternative therapies that deal with pain. Michael Brown, book called "The Presence Process" is about a man who had severe pain almost unbearable and he beat the pain through methods he researched around the world.

    • @IveGotItTwisted
      @IveGotItTwisted 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Natural medicine still won't repair prolapsed or herniated muscles or organs.

    • @personalcheeses8073
      @personalcheeses8073 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nicole mcnaughton And natural medicine cannot defy gravity

    • @blowitoutyourcunt7675
      @blowitoutyourcunt7675 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My naturopathic physician missed my ovarian cyst which caused ungodly amounts of pain and suffering, going to a single practitioner is never the answer! Your body's wellness and wholeness depends on a diverse team helping you out, doctor's ie MDs, NPs, midwives etc
      I think the point of this story would be to always get multiple opinions especially when you're going in for surgery, if these women had gotten the second or even third opinion from other doctors they may have been warned against going underneath the knife and getting mesh for their prolapse!

    • @IveGotItTwisted
      @IveGotItTwisted 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blowitoutyourcunt7675 I LOVE your username 😂