First off the Hyundai hybrid has a 10-year 100k battery and powertrain warranty so that's not an issue, The Tucson looks way better than the same old Rav 4 year after year. The Hyundai has 5 years free roadside assistance, better features, better looking styling and if you want apples to apples you should have chosen the Tucson Limited vs the Toyota Hybrid limited and then compared the price. Thanks for your honest take
The Tucson looks so much better. As someone who don't keep cars passed 100K miles, Hyundai/Kia have been pretty reliable for me. But that's just me. I don't miss any schedule service. 👍
How can people say "i want to keep my cars for 10 years" and "i want resale value" in the same sentence... unless there's a covid-27 in the works, car prices will never ever appreciate again. 10 years from now the toyota will be marginally more expensive in the used resale market than the hyundai. besides... maybe just maybe a person can make the bad resale value work in *their favor* by purchasing a 1 year used hyundai
My wife has a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid Limited loaded with all the extras like the ventilated seats, she averages 42 mpg / 5.6L/100km over 28K miles / 45K kms at the pump (atfer 60 fill ups). No issues so far, she really likes it. It replaced her 2015 Honda CR-V EX. My mother in law just bought a 2024 Hyundai Tucson Limited (normal), her main reasons were instant availability, it was less expensive, has 10 years / 100,000 miles powertrain warranty and the infotainment screen is at a normal place. She also likes the turn view cameras too. Have fun with your Rav4, we can't wait for the next gen as we will probably give this one to my daughter in a few years when she starts driving.
My wife has the 23 Rav hybrid xle, loves the thing. I was looking between that, the Tuscon, and the CRV hybrid. At present only the Tucson is in stock and I could buy today. Honda dealer says 2-3 months for a CRV Touring, Toyota dealer said at least another month for the limited. It really does add an annoyance when looking. The saving grace for myself is winter is on the way out, and the snow is melting so odds are I would not need the ground clearance this upcoming winter.
RAV4 for sure - made in Canada plus proven reliability and resale value. It would also feel weird owning a Hyundai after driving Honda and Toyota products only for the past 25 years.
@@rohitnijhawan5281 Hyundai/Kia has ZERO manufacturing presence in Canada. Pathetic trade rules allow them to leech $ billions from our economy while contributing nothing.
My mom was looking at both of these as well. I told her about which to choose, but she chose the Hyundai. Now it has been 4 months and it's been in the shop for 3 of them. I'm sure she will get her car back eventually when they fix it 😬. Should have chosen the Toyota
@@commoncents456 I was borrowing it from my daughter for three years because I lost my insurance. I gave it back to her and my grandchildren drove it so I don’t know where it is any longer! It was a great car. Never gave me a minutes trouble. It’s probably somewhere in Austin, Texas.
After owning a 19 RAV4 I highly recommend them. Can’t deny the reliability. The Tucson looks nice, but not sure about the reliability. Only issue I have with my Toyota is the road noise. Ours is the XLE Premium package, so maybe there is better sound deadening in the Limited. Toyota for the win!!
From 2000-2020, I owned several Hyundai/Kia and Toyota products. My takeaway after 20 years is this. I stay away from Hyundai/Kia even though their designs are always very tempting. Why? It was integrity and quality control. Hyundai always had more recalls by far, their quality control was not nearly as good as Toyota, they had engine problems of all kinds, and even one model I had they lied about the horsepower and torque rating and they had to give us a settlement due to a class action lawsuit. My Hyundais/Kias were very inconvenient because I was taking them in for all kinds of small things all the time: fan blowers, switches, suspension, latches etc. But, they always fixed it under their warranty. By the time I would get rid of them, my owner's manual folder would be filled with warranty receipts. Toward the end of my time owning them, they would often have recalls that they did not have a fix for. My daughter is still waiting for recall fixes due to lack of equipment availability for her Tucson after better than a year. I just do not have this level of problems with Toyota. Toyota will have a problem every now and then, but nowhere near the level I experienced with the H/K's. This has just been my experience alone; take it for what it is worth.
I agree with you on the Hyundai. My brother has a 2019 Tucson. The motor seized up on it at 30,000 miles, and the dealer said that they had a serious problem with the internal pistons and that's why it seized up. He got a new engine on Hyundai, but I'd rather just have something that's designed correctly and works from day one. There is a reason that you get a 100,000 warranty. Just my thoughts.
Good to know. I have been considering a Tucson and now I don't know. I have a Honda civic lease that I have to turn and wanted to go for the Tucson. Not sure now.😊
not always. i see plenty of toyotas for sale with low miles and bad transmissions, rusted frames or blown head gaskets. not to mention the rav4 sucks off road
lol toyota recent year car don't even last ten years. My camry didn't last 10 years. Go youtube toyota Asia vids, you gonna see alot of recalls, safety cheating, and alot of problems on recent toyota cars. I guess you just brainwashed that never want to hear bad things about toyota.
1. I wonder why more people buy them 2. RAV4 has higher reliability ranking. 3. If RAV4 has problems, Tuscon gets even more problems. 4. Rac4 holds its value well, tuscon does not.
You are pick the right one is the rav4 even myself I owned many cars before but I stick with toyota i still owned 2009 matrix 2.4 i don't have any problems except battery and last year I bought a 2022 venza hybrid limited I love it excellent on gas ⛽
Great review and on point. Interesting that this years refresh of the Hyundai has addressed all of your concerns and more. Most say the Tucon's exterior styling is more refined now. But the biggest improvements are now in the interior. A super slick unified curved screen, KNOBS for volumes, and a new column mounted drive by wire shifter that's super easy to use (push forward for forward, rotate back for reverse). I don't mind the lack of a volume knob since I use the volume control on the steering wheel 99% of the time, but still nice to see Hyundai has listened to customers and made some solid improvments. Keep up the amazing work gentlemen.
My family has owned both and my girlfriend owns one. Having a lot of time in both cars I will say that they are both the top dogs in the segment. I’ve drove the CRV and wasn’t impressed, but these Tuscan and RAV4 are great vehicles 💪🏻
@@johnmartin7158Almost all of those channels / magazines are heavily endorsed or even paid upfront by the vehicle company to gain positive pr It's literally a circle jerk of who paid the most to gain that coverage
I hate the way the CR-Vs look , always have. I'd never buy one no matter how reliable Hondas are. Rav 4 and Tuscons way better looking and YES, looks matter to me too !!!!
My sister has a 2009 with 200,000 miles with very little maintenance done. It is now using more oil than normal and our friendly Toyota dealer said just change oil interval to 3,000 miles instead of 5,000 and should be good for many miles longer. RAV-4 is best in segme and not even close.
Great review. Hard to argue with the simplicity of the RAV4. No Hybrid, no turbo and a good 8 speed transmission. Great choice for long time ownership.
Which one is made in Canada? I will take my place on the RAV4 Hybrid waiting list instead of driving a Hyundai off the lot today. 😁 Going forward, the next generation of RAV4 will need to match the passenger and cargo space offered by numerous competitors.
just in case you are interested the waiting list for a Lexus NX 350h hybrid is a lot shorter, at least in Ontario. The NX hybrid is also made in Cambridge Ontario.
@@seanh2390 Thanks. If I was in the market today, the overall practicality of the RAV4 Hybrid beats the NX or Venza. No wonder it is the most in-demand vehicle in all of North America.
Test drove both a 2024 Tucson Limited Hybrid and 2024 RAV4 Hybrid Limited in the past month. My comparisons and thoughts: Styling/Quality: Both feel like they are quality vehicles. The Tucson has that "luxury" feel and look with the unique geo-line styled body, flashy wheels, and elegant front grille while the RAV4 feels more purposefully designed and "rugged" in the drive and the looks/interior. The RAV4 seems like a crossfit athlete while the Tucson is more of a tennis player. Both have their unique looks and quirks that will appeal to your unique tastes, and neither are correct or incorrect. I think I like the styling of the Hyundai the most both inside and out. When looking at the vehicle's door sticker - the RAV4's 'Made in Japan' gives a level of confidence I just don't echo from a Korean vehicle. Hyundai is getting better and better, but Toyota still has the pedigree that Hyundai can't match. Bear in mind, this is coming from someone who has owned multiple Toyotas and has a current 4Runner V8 4x4 with 300,000 problem-free miles on it....I do have a bias here, and it is well-earned. While I know Toyota had some issues with this powertrain a few years ago, they have since resolved those issues and have multiple examples of vehicles well over 100,000 miles without problems. Follow the proper maintenance and you should not have any issues with either, but Toyota is going to be the most reliable of the two in quality of parts and materials for the engine and transmission. Entertainment/Infotainment: The Tucson comes in second here with no wireless carplay or android auto on the highest level trims (this is being resolved in other Kia/Hyundai models so may be resolved soon for the Tucson as well). The look of the tech integration for both vehicles is mixed. I prefer the Toyota's digital gauge cluster over the Hyundai, which just looks like someone glued a tablet into the dash area. The infotainment screen in the Tucson is nice and wide, but it is surrounded by piano black plastic and capacitive touch controls for the stereo and HVAC. Maybe it's just me, but piano black should NEVER be in any vehicle, and the lack of physical buttons really hurts it here. Both had great sounding stereos. I actually preferred the steering wheel controls on the Tucson more than the Toyota (Toyota's left-right volume buttons aren't intuitive and the Hyundai's controls with the toggle switches up and down make it easy to know what you're doing in the dark without looking down from the road). The interface with the sizable screen definitely goes to the Toyota with an actual volume knob to boot, even though the screen looks like it was an afterthought and just placed onto the dash, which still functions well and looks nice to me. The touch panels on the Tucson just don't do it for me and were a major detractor. The RAV4's physical buttons for everything the car needs give it the clear win. Technology: Hyundai's driver assist features are quite impressive. I loved the blind-spot vision cameras on the digital gauge cluster when signaling, the 360 camera is quite good, and the ability to move your car forward or backward with the remote park assist while not being in the car is a very cool feature, actually. I don't know if it's that reasonable to expect to use it often, but if someone parks close to you in a tight lot, you can still get into your car using this feature. It is neat and a pretty cool party trick. The RAV4 technology is also quite good. The 360 camera is definitely on par with the Hyundai, and the driver assist features/adaptive cruise are great as well. The highway driving assist on the Hyundai wins out over the Lane Keep Assist in the RAV4, but they're both very good. If the Hyundai had the gauge cluster, infotainment screen, and physical buttons like the RAV4, it would get my pick here. Powertrain: Maybe I'm just not understanding the difference some others have noted about RAV4's being sluggish or slow, but both cars feel quick off the line and more than powerful thanks to the hybrid motors and electric torque. Bear in mind, I am comparing only hybrid models here. The turbo on the Hyundai engine gives me more confidence driving at the higher Colorado elevations and on busy mountain roads, but then it also means more things to break with the risk of more technical complications. That, with the Hyundai's unproven turbo/engine reliability on the hybrid, means Toyota's more than 20 years of hybrid powertrain experience is the superior choice to me. Hybrid Performance: The Tucson is a smooth hybrid. You can't tell when the engine starts/stops at all. The Toyota does have a noticeable engine start/stop sensation, but it is very minor. Anyone coming from a daily driver pickup or older car will be blown away by either vehicle's smooth ride and performance in hybrid electric or motorized mode. One big advantage for the Toyota is how much better the fuel mileage was on my test drive. I was getting close to 45 mpg in the city driving it in normal mode. I was getting 31 mpg in the Tucson with the same driving style, so I believe the Toyota is just more economical (which is also proven by the EPA MPG numbers). I read on forums the Hyundai tends to loosen up after 5,000 miles and gets some improvements to the MPG, but Toyota is getting their numbers on an engine with 10 miles on it, so I think they win here. The bad (Hyundai): Hyundai's integration of the turn signal in the lowest part of the rear of the vehicle (in the bumper) is a problem. Yes, when you allow the appropriate space and vehicle lengths in traffic or on the highway, most drivers SHOULD see you signaling. Fast forward to reality, and I have personally seen multiple traffic congestion situations where Tucsons were honked at and almost hit because the person behind them when merging couldn't see their turn signal (or just wasn't paying close enough attention). The mirrors do have small turn signal indicators on them as well, but the Tucson really should have the signal somewhere in the tail light assembly to give other drivers more notice of their intent to turn or change lanes. We are conditioned to seeing turn signals in that area of the vehicle, and stylized changes like this make zero sense when it may impact driver safety. I also dislike Hyundai's placement of the headlights down lower in the front grille area. I love the look, actually, but in terms of practical functionality, these will catch more road debris and snow. The worst part about the Hyundai, however, is the lack of a true spare tire. You get a tire repair kit, and if you're someone who always believes they'll have cell service and AAA available, this is probably not an issue for you. If you're like me, and you want the ability to self-sustain in any environment, the RAV4's spare tire makes it the clear choice if you drive a lot in remote areas. Lastly, the Hyundai is a shift-by-wire system, meaning you shit Park, Drive, Neutral, Reverse using buttons in the center console area. I am not a fan of buttons for this, but the integration was pretty seamless. Still not my preference, so I would consider this a bad thing for me. Toyota's actual shifter is a superior experience and is what I am used to....no need to go away from a traditional shifter. The bad (Toyota): Toyota's trim levels and choices are still its Achilles heel. You get the weird mix of plastic chrome/brushed metal/black plastic based on certain trim choices that then cannot also have other features you might want. I personally can't see how or why anyone would need chrome inserts on their door handles, but Toyota thought the Limited trim needed them, I guess. Want the blacked-out look and ventilated seats? Too bad, the Limited is the only model with ventilated seats and has only one scheme available for the grille and wheels. XSE gets you gloss black trim, black wheels, and a black roof option (looks better to me, just wish you could option for that look in a Limited too). Conclusion: I'm not a car reviewer; these are my personal preferences and opinions. Toyota may be trying newer things that deviate from its long-standing tradition of simple, rugged reliability, but it's doing it pretty well. If you think Toyotas are equal or worse quality than Korean vehicles, you are just plain wrong. The manufacturing of the engines and component testing that Toyota goes through is just not something Kia or Hyundai can match. They have the technology and the flash, but I have yet to meet a 300,000+ mile Kia or Hyundai owner who is happy. They are still good cars and have amazing warranties, but that means nothing when someone says buy this worse thing and we will fix it when it breaks. I'd rather buy something that just doesn't break, period. Ultimately, I went with the RAV4. The cost difference between the vehicles was only $1,500 MSRP. The choice was easy for me, and I really was preferring the Hyundai quite a lot until I tested out the RAV4 a second time. Buying a car is an expensive and often stressful decision, so everyone's experiences will be different than mine. I can truly say, though, that either of these are the best-looking choices in the segment and would be happy to drive and live with either one. When it's my money, though, Toyota is the obvious choice.
I can said the same The warranty matters I bought a toyota rav4 and start giving problems right after 3 years i wnet from bad transmission to a bad started stereo issues and more the only thing i got replaced it was the transmission cuz it was under warranty still ( it breaks 2 months before the warranty ends) and after that a lots of things hapens i keep the rav4 for 10 years with a bunch of issues i ended treating for a crv but now im looking for something else my choice will be the tucson just for the warranty
@@bamban_garcia5562If you don't plan on keeping the car past 100K miles, Hyundai are pretty reliable. Had an Optima Hybrid and no major issues until around 150K miles.
I have 2 Rav 4, 2012 with 275,000km and a 2020 with 60,000km not an issue with either of them. 2012, I get 9L/100km 2020 I get 8L/100 I think they are the best bang for you buck, reliability is top notch. They drive really nice.. Maintain them, you have longevity!
Cars are like women. You can marry a beautiful woman who can be difficult to live with and high maintenance or you can marry an average looking woman who will be enjoyable to live with and low maintenance. I'll take the Toyota.
Yes, we all know Toyota has that reputation of reliability, which is great and I won’t argue that. However, they aren’t always so wonderful. The 2019 RAV-4 had 8 recalls while the 2019 Hyundai Tucson had only one. Then of course there was the infamous Tacoma ordeal and I’m sure there are many other examples. You also have to be honest with yourself about what you really want from that reputation in a society where most of us buying/leasing in this class end up in a new vehicle within 5-7 years regardless. Looking for a higher resale value is risky these days and not guaranteed. We don’t even truly know what direction the EV crusade will go for one thing and how that will affect the value of all vehicles. Furthermore, it makes no sense to live with a vehicle due to what you think it will do for you once get rid of it. 😉 Aesthetically, the Tucson is obviously much better looking and has that higher end appeal inside and out. Also, let it be known that the interior fit and finish of the RAV-4 is very poor quality. The plastics are markedly thinner and none of the components are very solid. The interior space is also notably more open in the Tucson, while the RAV-4 feels a bit tight and restrictive for its class. I think the RAV-4 is getting an update next year which should give it more appeal.
I bought a Tucson in January 2021 and I haven't had any problems so far. I do know Toyota is more reliable though and sometimes I wish I had went with Toyota. So far so good with the Hyundai though.
Would be great if you could get your hands on a 2025 RAV4 Hybrid vs the refreshed 2025 Tucson Hybrid (now with KNOBS and a simpler column mounted shift system). The new 2025 Tucson exterior seems more refined but it's the Tucson interior that looks SIGNIFICANTLY better than the one in the review here. I have a lot of respect for Toyota, but it's amazing how quickly Hyundai/Kia/Genesis keeps on improving from year-to-year...
The Tucson has a cute Parlor trick .. You can drop the rear floor another 3" to increase the storage height.. Also the touch screen , doesn't look like an afterthought..
I would go with the Tucson - stylish and sporty. Toyota is reliable but styling is dated Had a Tucson for 12 years no major issues- wear and tear for brakes, tires.
Excellent review gents, and I agree, if you are keeping the car at least 10 years (and financially speaking, you really should) , then the Toyota is definitely the way to go. Are you sure you don't want to wait for a Land Cruiser, though?
Next time, maybe compare apples to apples. i.e. Rav4 non-hybrid Limited to the Tuscon non-hybrid Limited. Or the Rav4 hybrid sports trim to the Tuscon hybrid sports (N-line) trim.
The hyundai tucson se (base trim) has a regular 2.5 l engine with an 8 speed automatic transmission, a proper shift stick & knobs for the ac/volume. Also its 27k, literally no reason to not just get that instead
Hyundai comes with free engine replacement. THEY ARE JUNK. I bought a RAV 4 the same time as my friend bought a Tucson. His Tucson after 2 years with only 30K had is engine replaced. Toyota reliability and resale is a winner hands down.
You just summed up my brothers experience with his wife's 2019 Tucson. 30,000 miles the engine seized up, with regular maintenance. The dealer said Hyundai has a problem with the internal Piston's and that's winy they're replacing all the engines. My brother got a new engine on Hyundai. I'd rather have something that is designed correctly in the first place. Granted I own 3 Toyota's, but I have faith in there reliability.
From a driving experience perspective i have been driving a 2023 rav4 for 2 weeks and drove the Hyundai Tucson yesterday. I immediately noticed a significant upgrade in drive experience. The crusie cintrol is sooo much better and its a smoother ride with better tech. Toyotas radar cruise control reacts so slow its scary
I like the look and style inside and out of the Hyundai...and the much better warranty is a big plus. That being said...it's hard to argue with the fact that the Toyota will simply work every time you hop in to go somewhere for the next 10 years. The Hyundai might as well but it also has the hybrid and turbo systems which add a lot more things to go bad over 10 years. I'd go with the Toyota.
And also the rav4 last redesign is in 2019 is older design and the Hyundai just redesign wait for the rav4 2025 redesign will be better than the Hyundai thanks take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
You guys really love that RAV4 - that car is nowhere near as popular in the U.K. as it is in America. The Sportage is the best selling car in this segment, and at the moment it’s the best selling car overall in the U.K. - in fact I don’t think the RAV4 is even in the top 20.
Do the rear seats fold completely 100% flat in either vehicle??? Many times people SAY they fold flat but they are at nearly a 45° angle. . That's not "flat" as in flush
Calendar degradation for batteries isn't really a big deal. Especially if the cars stored indoors. Not buying a hybrid for that reason is like not buying a new house because the sun will eventually explode. Charge cycles are a much bigger lifetime problem.
The Tucson Limited ICE would have been a better comparison to this Rav4 Limited. Tucson Limited has heated rear seats some many more features than the N-Line such as 360 camera, spare tire, ventilated front seats...
Thanks for the video and comparison. Still no snow in your part of Ontario? I like your Usage Case suggestion but how about looking at a Reliability Case as well? Car reviews fail to take in consideration the predicted reliability. The reviewers look at all the cool features and options but how cool and useful will those options be in 5 years? We all know about Kia / Hyundai reliability and their ongoing issues. No doubt that Toyotas can be plain, simple and boring but Toyotas offer the best value for the Loonie.
in a few years i plan on trading in 2020 rav4 before before everthing goes electric rav 4 is at the top of my list,i will look at the subaru forester,and honda passport.thats just the way iam ,like to compare demesions etc.
I have a 2017 Forester, I LOVE IT !! That said, the A/C sucks, it's kinda a known fact I guess with the 2015-18 Foresters, if you live in a cool climate no problem, but if you live in a hot climate you're gonna hate it !!!!!
No question the RAV4 lacks pizzaz and should be fine, but Hyundai has caught up and in some ways, surpassed Hyundai (driving dynamics, technology, ride). The Toyota interior is awful imo but we'll see what the new one brings. Yes, the Toyota will have strong resale, but the Hyundai is a much nicer looking package with arguably a better ride, handling, tech and warranty. I know this isn't the norm, but I've had surprisingly bad luck with both of my Toyotas and my 2017 Santa Fe was one of the best vehicles I've owned so I might lean towards the Tucson here (especially the refreshed 2025 which addressess all of these concerns re: knobs etc.).
wow you were getting 10litres per 100 km in the rav4.my 2020 ravv 4 the trd off road package its showing 8.2 litres per 100 km its gone up a bit i think its because its winter.come spring ,summer it will probably go down like its done before.
if your in canada, dont you think you should figure out which vehicle is best for snow? videos i have seen, showed the rav4 sucks in the 4 wheel drive department...thats a major flaw for rav4. as for hyundai, arent those and kia catching on fire? surely your family wouldnt buy either one of these?
Yeah I would not allow my family to buy an imminent time bomb when the same company that makes both said to park it outside to avoid being burned to death
For me its Toyota. I had a Suzuki suv for 14 years, they are not in US market anymore so i went for a Toyota Rav4. For me is comfortable, has an inside spare!!!! Reliable, good space. Hyundai is pretty but pretty is not reliable.
I love the interior of the Hyundai, the screen doesn’t stick up (like a lap top) to distort the view out the front window. The volume button for the radio is on the steering wheel, easy to access. The Tucson feels roomier than the RAV 4. The back-up camera is a full screen on my Tucson. I looked at both the Rav 4 and the Tucson as well as the Honda CRv and I felt the most comfortable in the roomie Tucson. All the Hybrid’s I looked at do not have a spare tire, they have a tire repair kit. The cargo of the Hyundai is larger than the RAV 4 and I love the pull out privacy screen that can hide “what’s in the back of your car”
Hyundai focuses on meeting public opinion for price, gadgets, and looks over reliability. Hyundai fans will swear the reliability is equal to Toyota, but we know the truth. It's no question that Toyota wins long-term.
@DanAllen1 You must be one of the fanboys I mentioned earlier. Instead of me proving what we already know to be true, why don't you prove to me the opposite? Prove to me that Hyundai has better reliability than Toyota as a brand. I'll wait.
@samantiful The facts have already been proven as a brand for years. Maybe you need to do more research. I've been following car brands and reliability since the early 1980s. Hyundai may rate higher in initial satisfaction, but that's because it looks cool, costs less, and has a ton of tech. The driving experience has improved lately, as well. However, we are not talking about those things. In terms of reliability, it just doesn't last as long as a Toyota or Honda product will. It doesn't have the same build quality. I have lived those facts directly and even worked at a Hyundai dealership. Even their own mechanics would tell people to get a Toyota or Honda over a Hyundai long-term. Other mechanics have said the same. You don't have to agree, but it is what it is.
@phil8761, I understand your points about Hyundai's historical reliability issues and the long-standing reputation of Toyota and Honda for durability and build quality. Your experience working at a Hyundai dealership certainly provides valuable insights. However, I want to highlight that Hyundai has made significant strides in recent years. In 2024, Hyundai became the third-largest car company globally, which is a testament to their advancements and market growth. They have also made notable improvements in electric vehicles (EVs) and overall product quality. When I chose to buy a Tucson, it wasn't because of Hyundai's past reputation but because of their recent innovations and how they have disrupted the C-SUV market in Europe. The Tucson stood out for its design, technology, and value, which are critical factors for many buyers today. It's also important to note that Hyundai's production efficiency plays a significant role in their competitive edge. Lower costs do not necessarily mean lower quality. Efficient production processes can result in affordable yet high-quality products. So, while historical reliability is a valid concern, it's essential to consider the significant improvements Hyundai has made recently. Ultimately, the choice between brands depends on individual priorities, whether it's long-term reliability, recent innovations, cost-effectiveness, or a combination of these factors.
DIfference in price is nominal, over 10 years you are taking about a few hundred dollars a year, not worth it. Toyota's are amazingly dependable. Hyundai Tucson's do look super sharp though.
We had the same dilema . We tested the topline hybrids from both. The Toyota was very mechanical and not smooth when the gas engine kicked in. The Tucson was far nicer, has real leather , not plether like the Toyota. You couldn’t hear the gas engine come in on the Hyundai. Plus the warranty was much better. There was about $8000 difference out the door, and for us that was the deal breaker. Plus Toyota has slipped alot in the reliability department . Everyone keeps talking about the old Toyota reliability, its not the same anymore, saddly.
There's not a single dealership in america that's not adding like 4 grand in markups to the rav4. Starting msrp for base trim is supposed to be 29k but minimum price I've seen is 33k.
Only reason I'm looking at the CRV hybrid and the Tuscon Hybrid is the mark up on Ravs. My wife got a 23 XLE Rav 4 hyrbid last year and dealer had a 6k markup. Add to that, my dealership never has Rav4 Hybrids in stock at the trim level, and color I want.
Tucson has much more cutting-edge technology and a much better display design. I’m a longtime Toyota/Honda/Lexus owner, but Hyundai has piqued my interest.
The Hyundai's and Kias that were stolen had the key ignition, meaning you have to insert your car key into the side of the steering column. The vehicles with the push start/stop didn't get stolen. My elantra which is a 2013 was upgraded with software to keep it from being stolen. I have had zero mechanical problems with my car and didn't have any problems with my 2002 Hyundai Sonora before that.
The rear view camera mirror seems like just more tech for the sake of tech. How much would it cost to replace if it has problems? What if you get in a fender bender and the camera gets damaged? How much is that going to cost? Not to mention having to go to dealer to have them program the thing. Just seems like more complexity for the sake of it that will cost you more to fix if something goes wrong. More electronics in a vehicle just for the sake of it that costs more dosen't seem like progress to me.
My dad replaced his for $150 or so dollars though by a solo shop with a lower quality camera so dealer itself will be way more expensive Just checked Toyota sells their own backup camera at $394.81 dollars while labor costs near $70 so expect to pay almost $500 for the whole thing
The small turbo engine in the Hyundai won’t be nearly as reliable as the Toyota. I bought my 2021 RAV4 over two years ago and have only taken it back to the dealer for maintenance.
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First off the Hyundai hybrid has a 10-year 100k battery and powertrain warranty so that's not an issue, The Tucson looks way better than the same old Rav 4 year after year. The Hyundai has 5 years free roadside assistance, better features, better looking styling and if you want apples to apples you should have chosen the Tucson Limited vs the Toyota Hybrid limited and then compared the price. Thanks for your honest take
The Tucson looks so much better. As someone who don't keep cars passed 100K miles, Hyundai/Kia have been pretty reliable for me. But that's just me. I don't miss any schedule service. 👍
How can people say "i want to keep my cars for 10 years" and "i want resale value" in the same sentence...
unless there's a covid-27 in the works, car prices will never ever appreciate again.
10 years from now the toyota will be marginally more expensive in the used resale market than the hyundai.
besides... maybe just maybe a person can make the bad resale value work in *their favor* by purchasing a 1 year used hyundai
My wife has a 2022 Rav4 Hybrid Limited loaded with all the extras like the ventilated seats, she averages 42 mpg / 5.6L/100km over 28K miles / 45K kms at the pump (atfer 60 fill ups). No issues so far, she really likes it. It replaced her 2015 Honda CR-V EX. My mother in law just bought a 2024 Hyundai Tucson Limited (normal), her main reasons were instant availability, it was less expensive, has 10 years / 100,000 miles powertrain warranty and the infotainment screen is at a normal place. She also likes the turn view cameras too. Have fun with your Rav4, we can't wait for the next gen as we will probably give this one to my daughter in a few years when she starts driving.
Always trust your mother in law 😊
My wife has the 23 Rav hybrid xle, loves the thing. I was looking between that, the Tuscon, and the CRV hybrid.
At present only the Tucson is in stock and I could buy today. Honda dealer says 2-3 months for a CRV Touring, Toyota dealer said at least another month for the limited.
It really does add an annoyance when looking. The saving grace for myself is winter is on the way out, and the snow is melting so odds are I would not need the ground clearance this upcoming winter.
Sounds like both vehicles have done good in your family.
RAV4 for sure - made in Canada plus proven reliability and resale value. It would also feel weird owning a Hyundai after driving Honda and Toyota products only for the past 25 years.
Buy Canadian!!
@@rightlanehog3151 The entire end to end supply chain of all the parts is far far from canadian. cars are only assembled in some place.
@@rohitnijhawan5281 Hyundai/Kia has ZERO manufacturing presence in Canada. Pathetic trade rules allow them to leech $ billions from our economy while contributing nothing.
My mom was looking at both of these as well. I told her about which to choose, but she chose the Hyundai. Now it has been 4 months and it's been in the shop for 3 of them. I'm sure she will get her car back eventually when they fix it 😬. Should have chosen the Toyota
Don’t say “I told you so”!😂
@@Dills1995 I haven't 😅. It's too late now to help. She's stuck with her choice for a while.
Toyota reliability eh !!!
May I ask what happened with the Hyundai
@@commoncents456 I was borrowing it from my daughter for three years because I lost my insurance. I gave it back to her and my grandchildren drove it so I don’t know where it is any longer! It was a great car. Never gave me a minutes trouble. It’s probably somewhere in Austin, Texas.
After owning a 19 RAV4 I highly recommend them. Can’t deny the reliability. The Tucson looks nice, but not sure about the reliability. Only issue I have with my Toyota is the road noise. Ours is the XLE Premium package, so maybe there is better sound deadening in the Limited. Toyota for the win!!
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From 2000-2020, I owned several Hyundai/Kia and Toyota products. My takeaway after 20 years is this. I stay away from Hyundai/Kia even though their designs are always very tempting. Why? It was integrity and quality control. Hyundai always had more recalls by far, their quality control was not nearly as good as Toyota, they had engine problems of all kinds, and even one model I had they lied about the horsepower and torque rating and they had to give us a settlement due to a class action lawsuit. My Hyundais/Kias were very inconvenient because I was taking them in for all kinds of small things all the time: fan blowers, switches, suspension, latches etc. But, they always fixed it under their warranty. By the time I would get rid of them, my owner's manual folder would be filled with warranty receipts. Toward the end of my time owning them, they would often have recalls that they did not have a fix for. My daughter is still waiting for recall fixes due to lack of equipment availability for her Tucson after better than a year. I just do not have this level of problems with Toyota. Toyota will have a problem every now and then, but nowhere near the level I experienced with the H/K's. This has just been my experience alone; take it for what it is worth.
Drove a 2008 Hyundai Accent with 250K. Started right up in any weather and didn’t burn a drop of oil. Too bad the quality has gone so far down.
I agree with you on the Hyundai. My brother has a 2019 Tucson. The motor seized up on it at 30,000 miles, and the dealer said that they had a serious problem with the internal pistons and that's why it seized up. He got a new engine on Hyundai, but I'd rather just have something that's designed correctly and works from day one. There is a reason that you get a 100,000 warranty. Just my thoughts.
Thanks for sharing.
Good to know. I have been considering a Tucson and now I don't know. I have a Honda civic lease that I have to turn and wanted to go for the Tucson. Not sure now.😊
@@Rockthatjewerlygo for it. They are including now 3 years of oil change and extended warranty on them (Power+)
Just knowing Toyota's reliability is enough to choose the Toyota.
Agreed. Didn’t need to watch the video.
not always. i see plenty of toyotas for sale with low miles and bad transmissions, rusted frames or blown head gaskets. not to mention the rav4 sucks off road
lol toyota recent year car don't even last ten years. My camry didn't last 10 years. Go youtube toyota Asia vids, you gonna see alot of recalls, safety cheating, and alot of problems on recent toyota cars. I guess you just brainwashed that never want to hear bad things about toyota.
1. I wonder why more people buy them
2. RAV4 has higher reliability ranking.
3. If RAV4 has problems, Tuscon gets even more problems.
4. Rac4 holds its value well, tuscon does not.
@@WYLNXCApeople's buys the Reason is marketing.. Toyota have big problems with brakes and safety.. transmission and engine's dual vvti..
You are pick the right one is the rav4 even myself I owned many cars before but I stick with toyota i still owned 2009 matrix 2.4 i don't have any problems except battery and last year I bought a 2022 venza hybrid limited I love it excellent on gas ⛽
Nice!
Its easy, get the RAV4. It is the best selling crossover for a reason.
Great review and on point. Interesting that this years refresh of the Hyundai has addressed all of your concerns and more. Most say the Tucon's exterior styling is more refined now. But the biggest improvements are now in the interior. A super slick unified curved screen, KNOBS for volumes, and a new column mounted drive by wire shifter that's super easy to use (push forward for forward, rotate back for reverse). I don't mind the lack of a volume knob since I use the volume control on the steering wheel 99% of the time, but still nice to see Hyundai has listened to customers and made some solid improvments. Keep up the amazing work gentlemen.
My family has owned both and my girlfriend owns one. Having a lot of time in both cars I will say that they are both the top dogs in the segment. I’ve drove the CRV and wasn’t impressed, but these Tuscan and RAV4 are great vehicles 💪🏻
And yet many channels and consumer mag chose the CRV.
@@johnmartin7158Almost all of those channels / magazines are heavily endorsed or even paid upfront by the vehicle company to gain positive pr
It's literally a circle jerk of who paid the most to gain that coverage
I hate the way the CR-Vs look , always have. I'd never buy one no matter how reliable Hondas are. Rav 4 and Tuscons way better looking and YES, looks matter to me too !!!!
@@ltahoe7195 Wouldn't it make more sense to customize said vehicle to your liking if you dislike their look
You two have a great dynamic.
Thank you kindly!
My sister has a 2009 with 200,000 miles with very little maintenance done. It is now using more oil than normal and our friendly Toyota dealer said just change oil interval to 3,000 miles instead of 5,000 and should be good for many miles longer. RAV-4 is best in segme and not even close.
Does that 2009 have the 2.5 4 cylinder or 3.5 V6?
@@rightlanehog3151The 2.5 liter 4 cylinder, it is a sport trim and amazingly everything inside of it still works.
@@paulm6481 👍
WHAT /??!!!! Every 3,000 miles ?? UNNECESSARY !!! With synthetic oil you only have to change oil every 7-8,000 miles.
Tuscon is definitely my choice! Im a fashion-forward kind of guy. The Rav4 is just vanilla looking. I will be bored with it in a matter of seconds.
Very interesting review. But why arent you comparing with NON hybrid Tuscon.
Great review. Hard to argue with the simplicity of the RAV4. No Hybrid, no turbo and a good 8 speed transmission. Great choice for long time ownership.
Which one is made in Canada? I will take my place on the RAV4 Hybrid waiting list instead of driving a Hyundai off the lot today. 😁 Going forward, the next generation of RAV4 will need to match the passenger and cargo space offered by numerous competitors.
just in case you are interested the waiting list for a Lexus NX 350h hybrid is a lot shorter, at least in Ontario. The NX hybrid is also made in Cambridge Ontario.
@@seanh2390 Thanks. If I was in the market today, the overall practicality of the RAV4 Hybrid beats the NX or Venza. No wonder it is the most in-demand vehicle in all of North America.
let's hope Toyota does not mess up the rav4 on the redesign.
Test drove both a 2024 Tucson Limited Hybrid and 2024 RAV4 Hybrid Limited in the past month. My comparisons and thoughts:
Styling/Quality: Both feel like they are quality vehicles. The Tucson has that "luxury" feel and look with the unique geo-line styled body, flashy wheels, and elegant front grille while the RAV4 feels more purposefully designed and "rugged" in the drive and the looks/interior. The RAV4 seems like a crossfit athlete while the Tucson is more of a tennis player. Both have their unique looks and quirks that will appeal to your unique tastes, and neither are correct or incorrect. I think I like the styling of the Hyundai the most both inside and out.
When looking at the vehicle's door sticker - the RAV4's 'Made in Japan' gives a level of confidence I just don't echo from a Korean vehicle. Hyundai is getting better and better, but Toyota still has the pedigree that Hyundai can't match. Bear in mind, this is coming from someone who has owned multiple Toyotas and has a current 4Runner V8 4x4 with 300,000 problem-free miles on it....I do have a bias here, and it is well-earned. While I know Toyota had some issues with this powertrain a few years ago, they have since resolved those issues and have multiple examples of vehicles well over 100,000 miles without problems. Follow the proper maintenance and you should not have any issues with either, but Toyota is going to be the most reliable of the two in quality of parts and materials for the engine and transmission.
Entertainment/Infotainment: The Tucson comes in second here with no wireless carplay or android auto on the highest level trims (this is being resolved in other Kia/Hyundai models so may be resolved soon for the Tucson as well). The look of the tech integration for both vehicles is mixed. I prefer the Toyota's digital gauge cluster over the Hyundai, which just looks like someone glued a tablet into the dash area. The infotainment screen in the Tucson is nice and wide, but it is surrounded by piano black plastic and capacitive touch controls for the stereo and HVAC. Maybe it's just me, but piano black should NEVER be in any vehicle, and the lack of physical buttons really hurts it here. Both had great sounding stereos. I actually preferred the steering wheel controls on the Tucson more than the Toyota (Toyota's left-right volume buttons aren't intuitive and the Hyundai's controls with the toggle switches up and down make it easy to know what you're doing in the dark without looking down from the road). The interface with the sizable screen definitely goes to the Toyota with an actual volume knob to boot, even though the screen looks like it was an afterthought and just placed onto the dash, which still functions well and looks nice to me. The touch panels on the Tucson just don't do it for me and were a major detractor. The RAV4's physical buttons for everything the car needs give it the clear win.
Technology: Hyundai's driver assist features are quite impressive. I loved the blind-spot vision cameras on the digital gauge cluster when signaling, the 360 camera is quite good, and the ability to move your car forward or backward with the remote park assist while not being in the car is a very cool feature, actually. I don't know if it's that reasonable to expect to use it often, but if someone parks close to you in a tight lot, you can still get into your car using this feature. It is neat and a pretty cool party trick. The RAV4 technology is also quite good. The 360 camera is definitely on par with the Hyundai, and the driver assist features/adaptive cruise are great as well. The highway driving assist on the Hyundai wins out over the Lane Keep Assist in the RAV4, but they're both very good. If the Hyundai had the gauge cluster, infotainment screen, and physical buttons like the RAV4, it would get my pick here.
Powertrain: Maybe I'm just not understanding the difference some others have noted about RAV4's being sluggish or slow, but both cars feel quick off the line and more than powerful thanks to the hybrid motors and electric torque. Bear in mind, I am comparing only hybrid models here. The turbo on the Hyundai engine gives me more confidence driving at the higher Colorado elevations and on busy mountain roads, but then it also means more things to break with the risk of more technical complications. That, with the Hyundai's unproven turbo/engine reliability on the hybrid, means Toyota's more than 20 years of hybrid powertrain experience is the superior choice to me.
Hybrid Performance: The Tucson is a smooth hybrid. You can't tell when the engine starts/stops at all. The Toyota does have a noticeable engine start/stop sensation, but it is very minor. Anyone coming from a daily driver pickup or older car will be blown away by either vehicle's smooth ride and performance in hybrid electric or motorized mode. One big advantage for the Toyota is how much better the fuel mileage was on my test drive. I was getting close to 45 mpg in the city driving it in normal mode. I was getting 31 mpg in the Tucson with the same driving style, so I believe the Toyota is just more economical (which is also proven by the EPA MPG numbers). I read on forums the Hyundai tends to loosen up after 5,000 miles and gets some improvements to the MPG, but Toyota is getting their numbers on an engine with 10 miles on it, so I think they win here.
The bad (Hyundai): Hyundai's integration of the turn signal in the lowest part of the rear of the vehicle (in the bumper) is a problem. Yes, when you allow the appropriate space and vehicle lengths in traffic or on the highway, most drivers SHOULD see you signaling. Fast forward to reality, and I have personally seen multiple traffic congestion situations where Tucsons were honked at and almost hit because the person behind them when merging couldn't see their turn signal (or just wasn't paying close enough attention). The mirrors do have small turn signal indicators on them as well, but the Tucson really should have the signal somewhere in the tail light assembly to give other drivers more notice of their intent to turn or change lanes. We are conditioned to seeing turn signals in that area of the vehicle, and stylized changes like this make zero sense when it may impact driver safety.
I also dislike Hyundai's placement of the headlights down lower in the front grille area. I love the look, actually, but in terms of practical functionality, these will catch more road debris and snow.
The worst part about the Hyundai, however, is the lack of a true spare tire. You get a tire repair kit, and if you're someone who always believes they'll have cell service and AAA available, this is probably not an issue for you. If you're like me, and you want the ability to self-sustain in any environment, the RAV4's spare tire makes it the clear choice if you drive a lot in remote areas.
Lastly, the Hyundai is a shift-by-wire system, meaning you shit Park, Drive, Neutral, Reverse using buttons in the center console area. I am not a fan of buttons for this, but the integration was pretty seamless. Still not my preference, so I would consider this a bad thing for me. Toyota's actual shifter is a superior experience and is what I am used to....no need to go away from a traditional shifter.
The bad (Toyota): Toyota's trim levels and choices are still its Achilles heel. You get the weird mix of plastic chrome/brushed metal/black plastic based on certain trim choices that then cannot also have other features you might want. I personally can't see how or why anyone would need chrome inserts on their door handles, but Toyota thought the Limited trim needed them, I guess. Want the blacked-out look and ventilated seats? Too bad, the Limited is the only model with ventilated seats and has only one scheme available for the grille and wheels. XSE gets you gloss black trim, black wheels, and a black roof option (looks better to me, just wish you could option for that look in a Limited too).
Conclusion: I'm not a car reviewer; these are my personal preferences and opinions. Toyota may be trying newer things that deviate from its long-standing tradition of simple, rugged reliability, but it's doing it pretty well. If you think Toyotas are equal or worse quality than Korean vehicles, you are just plain wrong. The manufacturing of the engines and component testing that Toyota goes through is just not something Kia or Hyundai can match. They have the technology and the flash, but I have yet to meet a 300,000+ mile Kia or Hyundai owner who is happy. They are still good cars and have amazing warranties, but that means nothing when someone says buy this worse thing and we will fix it when it breaks. I'd rather buy something that just doesn't break, period.
Ultimately, I went with the RAV4. The cost difference between the vehicles was only $1,500 MSRP. The choice was easy for me, and I really was preferring the Hyundai quite a lot until I tested out the RAV4 a second time. Buying a car is an expensive and often stressful decision, so everyone's experiences will be different than mine. I can truly say, though, that either of these are the best-looking choices in the segment and would be happy to drive and live with either one. When it's my money, though, Toyota is the obvious choice.
Sorry, no time to read this book long comment but didn't know you can comment this long on TH-cam. 😅
Really enjoyed your through and un-biased comparison of both. Personally I'd pick the Toyota every time. But theirs a reason I have 3 Toyotas.
Hyundai has a 60,000 mile bumper to bumper Warranty 10 year 100000 mile powertrain Warranty but I do like Toyota but for me the Warranty means alot
I can said the same
The warranty matters
I bought a toyota rav4 and start giving problems right after 3 years i wnet from bad transmission to a bad started stereo issues and more the only thing i got replaced it was the transmission cuz it was under warranty still ( it breaks 2 months before the warranty ends) and after that a lots of things hapens i keep the rav4 for 10 years with a bunch of issues i ended treating for a crv but now im looking for something else my choice will be the tucson just for the warranty
Toyota is very reliabilty but Hyundai now days making very great cars/SUV too. Happy New Year. Greetings
Hyundai making great cars / sports utility vehicles is pointless if the mechanical aspect do not reflect that
@@bamban_garcia5562If you don't plan on keeping the car past 100K miles, Hyundai are pretty reliable. Had an Optima Hybrid and no major issues until around 150K miles.
@@doudymac Mate my sister's Hyundai Elantra just got a freaking check engine issue after the mandatory oil change in less than 6k, reliable my ass
I have 2 Rav 4, 2012 with 275,000km and a 2020 with 60,000km not an issue with either of them. 2012, I get 9L/100km 2020 I get 8L/100 I think they are the best bang for you buck, reliability is top notch. They drive really nice.. Maintain them, you have longevity!
Real spare tire, real buttons, naturally aspirated engine and proven reliability = Toyota !!! Happy New Years Guys !!!!
Can’t compare a hybrid to a non hybrid… that was ridiculous
Cars are like women. You can marry a beautiful woman who can be difficult to live with and high maintenance or you can marry an average looking woman who will be enjoyable to live with and low maintenance.
I'll take the Toyota.
Now that's quite an analogy..... Brave person.
I’ll take neither because I don’t settle for less.
I must be a Toyota😂
Yes, we all know Toyota has that reputation of reliability, which is great and I won’t argue that. However, they aren’t always so wonderful. The 2019 RAV-4 had 8 recalls while the 2019 Hyundai Tucson had only one. Then of course there was the infamous Tacoma ordeal and I’m sure there are many other examples. You also have to be honest with yourself about what you really want from that reputation in a society where most of us buying/leasing in this class end up in a new vehicle within 5-7 years regardless.
Looking for a higher resale value is risky these days and not guaranteed. We don’t even truly know what direction the EV crusade will go for one thing and how that will affect the value of all vehicles. Furthermore, it makes no sense to live with a vehicle due to what you think it will do for you once get rid of it. 😉
Aesthetically, the Tucson is obviously much better looking and has that higher end appeal inside and out. Also, let it be known that the interior fit and finish of the RAV-4 is very poor quality. The plastics are markedly thinner and none of the components are very solid. The interior space is also notably more open in the Tucson, while the RAV-4 feels a bit tight and restrictive for its class. I think the RAV-4 is getting an update next year which should give it more appeal.
I put my money on toyota because of reliability resale value thanks for your video take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
I bought a Tucson in January 2021 and I haven't had any problems so far. I do know Toyota is more reliable though and sometimes I wish I had went with Toyota. So far so good with the Hyundai though.
As long as you don't skip any scheduled service maintenance, you can pass 100K miles with no issues.
Toyota all day.
Would be great if you could get your hands on a 2025 RAV4 Hybrid vs the refreshed 2025 Tucson Hybrid (now with KNOBS and a simpler column mounted shift system). The new 2025 Tucson exterior seems more refined but it's the Tucson interior that looks SIGNIFICANTLY better than the one in the review here. I have a lot of respect for Toyota, but it's amazing how quickly Hyundai/Kia/Genesis keeps on improving from year-to-year...
The Tucson has a cute Parlor trick ..
You can drop the rear floor another 3" to increase the storage height..
Also the touch screen , doesn't look like an afterthought..
That camera system comparison isn't fair on the Tucson- the limited has the top down/360 view like the RAV, PLUS side camera views.
I would go with the Tucson - stylish and sporty.
Toyota is reliable but styling is dated
Had a Tucson for 12 years no major issues- wear and tear for brakes, tires.
Highly suggest people look into all the issues with GDI engines at Hyundai / KIA the last 10 years b4 deciding. Lots of lawsuits, recalls, etc.
Did Toyota finally heat the whole steering wheel? On my Gf's 2019 XLE Rav 4, only the sides of the steering wheel were heated.
Excellent review gents, and I agree, if you are keeping the car at least 10 years (and financially speaking, you really should) , then the Toyota is definitely the way to go. Are you sure you don't want to wait for a Land Cruiser, though?
I understand they quit selling the original Land Cruiser a few years back but are now selling a smaller cheaper version.
@@Dills1995 The 200 Series was not sold in Canada.
@@rightlanehog3151 Toyota’s argument was that the sequoia was too much like the Land Cruiser in size and luxury. Is the Sequoia sold in Canada?
@@Dills1995 The Sequoia and LX are sold here and the new Land Cruiser will be as well.
Next time, maybe compare apples to apples. i.e. Rav4 non-hybrid Limited to the Tuscon non-hybrid Limited. Or the Rav4 hybrid sports trim to the Tuscon hybrid sports (N-line) trim.
The hyundai tucson se (base trim) has a regular 2.5 l engine with an 8 speed automatic transmission, a proper shift stick & knobs for the ac/volume. Also its 27k, literally no reason to not just get that instead
Hyundai comes with free engine replacement. THEY ARE JUNK. I bought a RAV 4 the same time as my friend bought a Tucson. His Tucson after 2 years with only 30K had is engine replaced. Toyota reliability and resale is a winner hands down.
You just summed up my brothers experience with his wife's 2019 Tucson. 30,000 miles the engine seized up, with regular maintenance. The dealer said Hyundai has a problem with the internal Piston's and that's winy they're replacing all the engines. My brother got a new engine on Hyundai. I'd rather have something that is designed correctly in the first place. Granted I own 3 Toyota's, but I have faith in there reliability.
From a driving experience perspective i have been driving a 2023 rav4 for 2 weeks and drove the Hyundai Tucson yesterday. I immediately noticed a significant upgrade in drive experience. The crusie cintrol is sooo much better and its a smoother ride with better tech. Toyotas radar cruise control reacts so slow its scary
Toyota's eCVT is a marvel engineering. I would buy it for that alone
Tucson all the way, it’s so much better in looks, comfortable, 100’s of features.. I love my n-Line 2024 😻
Toyota with no turbo means years of reliability
It’s a no brainer for mechanical reliability, Toyota all the way..
I like the look and style inside and out of the Hyundai...and the much better warranty is a big plus. That being said...it's hard to argue with the fact that the Toyota will simply work every time you hop in to go somewhere for the next 10 years. The Hyundai might as well but it also has the hybrid and turbo systems which add a lot more things to go bad over 10 years. I'd go with the Toyota.
And also the rav4 last redesign is in 2019 is older design and the Hyundai just redesign wait for the rav4 2025 redesign will be better than the Hyundai thanks take care bye from milton Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
You guys really love that RAV4 - that car is nowhere near as popular in the U.K. as it is in America. The Sportage is the best selling car in this segment, and at the moment it’s the best selling car overall in the U.K. - in fact I don’t think the RAV4 is even in the top 20.
Rdx is the best but had mine stolen in Toronto but now have to chose a new one but not so high end as not to temp the criminals
Do the rear seats fold completely 100% flat in either vehicle???
Many times people SAY they fold flat but they are at nearly a 45° angle. . That's not "flat" as in flush
A better comparison would be the Tucson limited hybrid which is light years ahead of rav 4 in luxury & tech.
Needs something from SUBARU
Calendar degradation for batteries isn't really a big deal. Especially if the cars stored indoors. Not buying a hybrid for that reason is like not buying a new house because the sun will eventually explode. Charge cycles are a much bigger lifetime problem.
The Tucson Limited ICE would have been a better comparison to this Rav4 Limited. Tucson Limited has heated rear seats some many more features than the N-Line such as 360 camera, spare tire, ventilated front seats...
Maybe the price went up in the last two weeks, but the RAV4 Limited is just under $48K without the Hybrid.
Thanks for the video and comparison. Still no snow in your part of Ontario? I like your Usage Case suggestion but how about looking at a Reliability Case as well? Car reviews fail to take in consideration the predicted reliability. The reviewers look at all the cool features and options but how cool and useful will those options be in 5 years? We all know about Kia / Hyundai reliability and their ongoing issues. No doubt that Toyotas can be plain, simple and boring but Toyotas offer the best value for the Loonie.
in a few years i plan on trading in 2020 rav4 before before everthing goes electric rav 4 is at the top of my list,i will look at the subaru forester,and honda passport.thats just the way iam ,like to compare demesions etc.
I have a 2017 Forester, I LOVE IT !! That said, the A/C sucks, it's kinda a known fact I guess with the 2015-18 Foresters, if you live in a cool climate no problem, but if you live in a hot climate you're gonna hate it !!!!!
Yeah, I think that’s kind of lousy. They have that screen sticking up over the dashboard like that blocking your view. I don’t like that.
RAV4 in the long game your way ahead in a circumstances
For reliability and longevity, the Toyota is the best option
Tucson for looks, RAV4 for long term reliability.
So you picked top line RAV4 but a mid line Tucson and complain about no heated seats and simplicity of camera ?
No question the RAV4 lacks pizzaz and should be fine, but Hyundai has caught up and in some ways, surpassed Hyundai (driving dynamics, technology, ride). The Toyota interior is awful imo but we'll see what the new one brings. Yes, the Toyota will have strong resale, but the Hyundai is a much nicer looking package with arguably a better ride, handling, tech and warranty. I know this isn't the norm, but I've had surprisingly bad luck with both of my Toyotas and my 2017 Santa Fe was one of the best vehicles I've owned so I might lean towards the Tucson here (especially the refreshed 2025 which addressess all of these concerns re: knobs etc.).
Excellent review!!! Sure hope you have a very Awesome New Years!!! 😁
Same to you
wow you were getting 10litres per 100 km in the rav4.my 2020 ravv 4 the trd off road package its showing 8.2 litres per 100 km its gone up a bit i think its because its winter.come spring ,summer it will probably go down like its done before.
RAV 4 would be my choice. Toyota just makes better vehicles
Why not the Hyundai?
if your in canada, dont you think you should figure out which vehicle is best for snow? videos i have seen, showed the rav4 sucks in the 4 wheel drive department...thats a major flaw for rav4. as for hyundai, arent those and kia catching on fire? surely your family wouldnt buy either one of these?
Yeah I would not allow my family to buy an imminent time bomb when the same company that makes both said to park it outside to avoid being burned to death
Should wait for the 2025 Tucson, it addresses many of the negatives you listed for the 2024
For me its Toyota. I had a Suzuki suv for 14 years, they are not in US market anymore so i went for a Toyota Rav4. For me is comfortable, has an inside spare!!!! Reliable, good space. Hyundai is pretty but pretty is not reliable.
If you go with lower trims of tuscons, you do get a spare tire.
Tuscon. Hyundai. Walk away. No. Run. If u want longevity. It’s always hit and miss.
What about a crv? Probably the closest competitor to the Rav and Canadian made
I hate the way the CRVs look with that dorky rear lighting, but that's me. To each his/her own.
Well one can make it to 300k miles other one lucky to get to 75k
Heh my sister's Hyundai was giving her problems at 30k doubt the Tucson will make it to 75k
I love the interior of the Hyundai, the screen doesn’t stick up (like a lap top) to distort the view out the front window. The volume button for the radio is on the steering wheel, easy to access. The Tucson feels roomier than the RAV 4. The back-up camera is a full screen on my Tucson. I looked at both the Rav 4 and the Tucson as well as the Honda CRv and I felt the most comfortable in the roomie Tucson. All the Hybrid’s I looked at do not have a spare tire, they have a tire repair kit. The cargo of the Hyundai is larger than the RAV 4 and I love the pull out privacy screen that can hide “what’s in the back of your car”
It's the extra couple thousand really worth it for the Toyota?
I bought the Hyundai Tucson because of the ten year 100,000 mile power train warranty. Not the N-line, but a Tucson.
Just curious, did you consider the CRV? If so, why was it eliminated?
Hyundai focuses on meeting public opinion for price, gadgets, and looks over reliability. Hyundai fans will swear the reliability is equal to Toyota, but we know the truth. It's no question that Toyota wins long-term.
"No question"? What in the world is that based on, name a single real data source.
@DanAllen1 You must be one of the fanboys I mentioned earlier. Instead of me proving what we already know to be true, why don't you prove to me the opposite? Prove to me that Hyundai has better reliability than Toyota as a brand. I'll wait.
Tucson nx4 is still new, you can’t say it’s unreliable, speak with facts
@samantiful The facts have already been proven as a brand for years. Maybe you need to do more research. I've been following car brands and reliability since the early 1980s. Hyundai may rate higher in initial satisfaction, but that's because it looks cool, costs less, and has a ton of tech. The driving experience has improved lately, as well. However, we are not talking about those things. In terms of reliability, it just doesn't last as long as a Toyota or Honda product will. It doesn't have the same build quality. I have lived those facts directly and even worked at a Hyundai dealership. Even their own mechanics would tell people to get a Toyota or Honda over a Hyundai long-term. Other mechanics have said the same. You don't have to agree, but it is what it is.
@phil8761, I understand your points about Hyundai's historical reliability issues and the long-standing reputation of Toyota and Honda for durability and build quality. Your experience working at a Hyundai dealership certainly provides valuable insights.
However, I want to highlight that Hyundai has made significant strides in recent years. In 2024, Hyundai became the third-largest car company globally, which is a testament to their advancements and market growth. They have also made notable improvements in electric vehicles (EVs) and overall product quality.
When I chose to buy a Tucson, it wasn't because of Hyundai's past reputation but because of their recent innovations and how they have disrupted the C-SUV market in Europe. The Tucson stood out for its design, technology, and value, which are critical factors for many buyers today.
It's also important to note that Hyundai's production efficiency plays a significant role in their competitive edge. Lower costs do not necessarily mean lower quality. Efficient production processes can result in affordable yet high-quality products.
So, while historical reliability is a valid concern, it's essential to consider the significant improvements Hyundai has made recently. Ultimately, the choice between brands depends on individual priorities, whether it's long-term reliability, recent innovations, cost-effectiveness, or a combination of these factors.
DIfference in price is nominal, over 10 years you are taking about a few hundred dollars a year, not worth it. Toyota's are amazingly dependable. Hyundai Tucson's do look super sharp though.
If you have the money, upgrade to the Lexus NX! The interior is much better. You also have plenty of power trains to choose from just like the RAV4.
You have the Hyundai costing more than the Toyota in USD.
nice choice rav4!!
I love Tucson limited2024❤😂
I’ve owned Toyota and I’ve owned Hyundai. I’ll own another Toyota but never another Hyundai.
We had the same dilema . We tested the topline hybrids from both. The Toyota was very mechanical and not smooth when the gas engine kicked in. The Tucson was far nicer, has real leather , not plether like the Toyota. You couldn’t hear the gas engine come in on the Hyundai. Plus the warranty was much better. There was about $8000 difference out the door, and for us that was the deal breaker. Plus Toyota has slipped alot in the reliability department . Everyone keeps talking about the old Toyota reliability, its not the same anymore, saddly.
Your dad reaches a nearly complete halt at 15:10 . Then all of a sudden the tailgater is gone. You and your dad beat the shit outta him? LOL
Max Rav4 vs Mid range Tucson
Toyota’s about to monopolize the industry if nobody challenges them on quality/price
There's not a single dealership in america that's not adding like 4 grand in markups to the rav4. Starting msrp for base trim is supposed to be 29k but minimum price I've seen is 33k.
Only reason I'm looking at the CRV hybrid and the Tuscon Hybrid is the mark up on Ravs. My wife got a 23 XLE Rav 4 hyrbid last year and dealer had a 6k markup.
Add to that, my dealership never has Rav4 Hybrids in stock at the trim level, and color I want.
Toyota, going places
Tucson has much more cutting-edge technology and a much better display design. I’m a longtime Toyota/Honda/Lexus owner, but Hyundai has piqued my interest.
Hyundai will get stolen if left in public, or catch fire
The Hyundai's and Kias that were stolen had the key ignition, meaning you have to insert your car key into the side of the steering column. The vehicles with the push start/stop didn't get stolen. My elantra which is a 2013 was upgraded with software to keep it from being stolen. I have had zero mechanical problems with my car and didn't have any problems with my 2002 Hyundai Sonora before that.
Tuscon is not reliable inho. Oil burner. Ignition module is terrible. That's our experience
If you got the $3,000 what does that mean it means you got to pay more for the car origami figure that in this situation from The Car Guy
The rear view camera mirror seems like just more tech for the sake of tech. How much would it cost to replace if it has problems? What if you get in a fender bender and the camera gets damaged? How much is that going to cost? Not to mention having to go to dealer to have them program the thing. Just seems like more complexity for the sake of it that will cost you more to fix if something goes wrong. More electronics in a vehicle just for the sake of it that costs more dosen't seem like progress to me.
FWIW I really like the rear camera mirror on my car - gives excellent rear visibility because rear door pillars do not show up in the image.
My dad replaced his for $150 or so dollars though by a solo shop with a lower quality camera so dealer itself will be way more expensive
Just checked Toyota sells their own backup camera at $394.81 dollars while labor costs near $70 so expect to pay almost $500 for the whole thing
Not a fair comparison, hybrid vs gas, i will take the gass all day, do the same test with 2 gas suv
The small turbo engine in the Hyundai won’t be nearly as reliable as the Toyota. I bought my 2021 RAV4 over two years ago and have only taken it back to the dealer for maintenance.
Why are you comparing garbage vs. treasure.
The Hyundai has a much cleaner look overall. The RAV4 is going to be more reliable
Good choice L O L
matt will be replacing the hyundai motor.