I have one rule for cave diving, just one rule that has always served me very well and saved my life, a rule I have never and will never break - do not go cave diving. Very effective. I can think of no more pointless, dangerous ways to horrifically die than being trapped underwater.
There are countless more horrific ways to die, lots of them documented on this channel, mostly at the hands of monstrous human beings. What you're actually afraid of is feeling stupid while you die; and that's just sad, but so relatable. Get over it.
I went to lake Tahoe when I was 19. There this rock not to far from the shore, easy swim. You can climb on the rock and dive in the water. But also if you swim like 15 feet down there's a narrow tunnel way that carves through this large rock, you can swim through, maybe only 12 feet long. So we do it! I was the last one to go, well I lost my momentum about have way through and its so narrow you can't put your arms or legs out to swim. So I reach on the sides and bottom to push to propel myself but it all really slick, coated in moss or algae or something. So I started to panic, but i had to remind myself not to panic and reach a solution. So I wiggled my body like a worm and started to slowly move forward. I made it out of the tunnel, I barely made it the 15feet back to the surface before gasping for air. I'll never do anything so stupid ever again.
@@alexjosephwalker8605 Yes but why would you bet on your life knowing that cave diving is risky ? Being murdered by a monster human being is something you don’t have a choice over but you decide whether you’d go cave diving. So why would anyone risk their lives knowing full well that they can die ? I’d rather die from something I had no control over than vice versa
@Christopher Satkowski well why would I learn the imperial system when basically all countries use the metric system? I'm guessing you're not American (otherwise commenting that would've been idiotic lol) but I dont know any countries in which both are taught
@Christopher Satkowski most of the world uses the metric system and in school we are obviously taught that system we don’t learn useless things like the system that America is used to
I have a story about aight good friend of mine that died when he went hiking on the Appalachian trail near Bear Mountain located in New York. My friend Chris was a risk taker. He loved skydiving, bungee jumping, rock climbing, discovering new caves which were known to be very dangerous (even for experience cave explorers). But the mountain that he decided to hike this day was a fairly easy hike, and it was a mountain that he had hiked numerous times and it was one of his favorite places to go. He hiked up this mountain called Anthony's Nose (located just on the other side of Bear Mountain overlooking the Hudson River). He started off around 5:30am just getting off a 12hr. overnight shift from work. He reached the top which only took a little over an hour. So once he reached the top he decided to rest on top of this huge bolder. There's no gate or anything that would stop u from falling off the cliff of this bolder which is about 225ft straight drop to the bottom. He never showed up for work that night and this was highly unusual because he never called out and was always there on time. His boss called his cell phone but it was going straight to voicemail because it wasn't charged the entire day. One of his coworkers was very good friends with him and his family so he called his brother and asked him if he knew were Chris was because he didn't show up for work, didn't call, his phone is off and no one has heard from him or has been able to get in touch with him. His brother knew that he was going hiking and asked some of his friends including myself if he had gone with him. But everyone told him that he was going straight from work by himself. His brother drove to the mountain and found his car parked on the side of the road just before the trail started. It was already dark outside and nobody was thrilled about hiking in the woods at night because the area was known for bears. Wolves and snakes. His brother called the police and in the morning they started the search for Chris. Once they reached the top the found his backpack and jacket, but no Chris. So after a few minutes of looking around the area, one of the officers looked over the edge of the cliff and at the bottom they saw his body. Apparently he had fallen asleep while resting and rolled over the edge. He died from blunt trauma to his head cracking his skull on a rock either on the way down or once hitting the ground. He also suffered from two broken legs, and a broken neck. He died almost instantly. He was only 26yrs old, married with a 3 year old daughter and a child on the way. He was a great guy who everyone enjoyed being around. He will be missed. Thank you for reading my story! Love ur channel Mr. B!
I'm from that area and know it very well. I love those mountains and have taken many treks alone. I won't be doing that anymore. My condolences on you loss.
I’ve lived 20 minutes from bear mountain pretty much my entire life. There are no wolves. Coyotes, yes, no wolves though. I’m sorry about the loss of your friend. That hike is one of my favorites.
His mistake with "M" cave was: once he rediscovered its location, he should have left and marked the location of the cave and then come back with dozens of people.
@@garytaylor8193 I don't believe drones were trait ask that commercially accessible when he found the cave. Hell I'm only 23 and stayed as a drone hobbyist when I was in high school and the only way to really get a don't was to build it your self and the ran on ardupilot boards which was basically a stripped down arduino board and they were extremely difficult to get working properly.
@@garytaylor8193 They sell locator beacons for around 300 to 400 dollars that link up to satellites. I've used one in the past when I was out deep sea fishing and had mechanical issues with my boat. They are 100% reliable as long as you keep the batteries charged up and you are not under ground or in dense cover.
hell of a man, " when I was on the seal team" then admits he had fears or fearful thoughts just like anyone else. Is modest and has humility, two traits that are VERY hard to find anymore. Thank you for your service MrBallen.
No shame in having fears I am afraid of heights so naturally I go a job in high rise window cleaning on a bowman chair with 2 100 meter 9mm ropes and a 5 gallon bucket
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Important to note about Kenny: his girlfriend has since said that she actually believes Kenny may have disappeared on purpose. Apparently he had a history of depression and was struggling mentally at the time he went missing, and as an explorer it would be easy for him to disappear himself in a way that he wouldn't be recovered. She noted that he had not brought his camera with him that he used to record, so his intention this time wasn't to find M-cave. That is definitely the saddest possible ending, but it comes from the person closest to him, and based on her explanation I think that is what happened.
That’s what I thought too when hearing his phone was left coincidentally right by a mine shaft. If his body isn’t inside, then it would seem someone planted the phone to insinuate he fell into the mine shaft. It’s very rare to not notice when you drop your phone especially if you’re standing up and there wouldn’t be much noise out there, I think he would’ve heard it drop. The military wouldn’t have left any trace
Why is it so comforting to just hear someone sit and tell a strange, dark or mysterious story. I do this every single night in bed. Please never quit doing this
@@astrzmbie9968 go over to creepypasta channels! You literally won’t be able to watch all of them because there’s lots of channels all uploading different things every day!
@@glurp2661 yeah since I made the comment I've done exactly that. There are several really good true crime channels to watch and even though they cover some of the same cases, each one gives a unique perspective. I still like John the best though so I look at the others as a supplement. Check out disturban.
Getting LOST in a catacomb under Paris and having your light source eventually run out sounds like a literal worst nightmare lol doesn’t get much worse than that!
id rather drown. I reckon explorers accidentally find other explores bodies and assume it's a demon or something. Ugh Paris. Makes it seem a lot less romantic and fun being built above a mass grave
I've heard the 'M' cave story multiple times from multiple different creators but nobody ever mentioned the guy warning Kenny he would die. It just makes the story that much creepier.
@@epic7224 it also may have been a fake username created by an area 51 employee that caught wind of the story and tried to give him an anonymous warning. Your explanation seems more likely though.
I can't imagine going past a sign that said GO NO FURTHER OR YOU WILL DIE!....and where 300 ppl had died. I have a reeeaaalllyyy hard time feeling bad for ppl that reckless😬🤷♀️
In all fairness people do that shit all the time. You car has a few warnings to wear a seatbelt or to not put a child too small in the front seat people do it EVERY day.
@@rodleypumpkins4174 Yes because not wearing a seatbelt is comparable to going past a warning sign into a section where 300+ people have died... I get what you're saying but one thing is injury/death IF you get into an accident (majority of the time just injury), whereas one is basically guaranteed death. Not exactly comparable.
@@cokaneds yeah apples to oranges for sure bad comparison but you see what I mean. You say no don’t do that atleast one is going to say yaaaa I’m going to do it lol.
@@rodleypumpkins4174 Lol dw I see what you mean, just they're on two completely different levels (one being almost guaranteed death). That said I still think people who don't wear their seatbelt are complete idiots and if anyone refuses to wear one in my car I'm kicking them out 💯
@@cokaneds I agree with you if you want to die that’s fine do it on your own time not in my rig. Also I think about the people who have to scrape your ass off the pavement after you blow through the front window that’s very hard or your mom lol. Or my kids I couldn’t imagine leaving them over a fuckin seat belt. But ya it’s just sad that people are that way. Some of it is probably the factor that they think they are good enough or strong enough shit won’t hurt them. Good chat tho! Cheers.
you kidding? if I was a Navy Seal, I'd begin every sentence I spoke with "well, in the opinion of this Navy Seal, I'll have the soup with oyster crackers". You know why? cause he earned it.
It's crazy how much I have learnt about myself after I started watching this channel. I found I have- cave+ cliff+ river/ sea/ ocean+ desert+ mountain+ so many more phobias, that it's incredible. Before, I thought I was very brave because I could go outta my room to the backyard at 2 in the night all alone, with all lights on.
@@coffeeenjoyer9099 speluncaphobia, thalassophobia, with ultimately all of these coming down to cleithrophobia being fearful of being lost with no way out/ being trapped so i think it’s actually you who doesn’t understand phobias.
The catacombs in Paris are so weird. You walk through narrow hallways where the walls are stacked bones. The bones are often separated by type so they stack neatly. But there will be designs in these walls by mixing other bones - like skulls for instance - in patterns. It’s a very weird for of Art work. As you’re walking through it hits you that this is what all of us become. I would look at a skull and think, this was a person. A person with fears and loves and dreams. The real creepy thing is walking in these hallways made of bones and feeling water drip on you. 😖
I've always assumed Kenny disappeared because that M cave was actually some sort of an exhaust or vent for area 51. He likely got exposed to some really toxic stuff or saw something he shouldn't have if his phone was just found near a different mineshaft...
Either that or they captured him once he went back because he knew too much. Another guy searched the area and found where he think it was but it was covered up.
I know someone who used to do government work for nuclear testing out there. He said They did a ton of testing nukes in man made caves and underground shafts. They're full of radiation and other toxic stuff so if that guy went in one of those caves then it's possible he got a huge dose of radiation and didn't make it out.
@@wormhole331 that's been a reason I haven't liked exploring mines near my hometown with a couple friends, I know plutonium was mined in some of them around the silver and gold mines in the area.
the rays. He was a totally sain guy. Our government is twisted and things have in recent years big things been kept from us. If something were so classified I'm sure they'd make sure it stay that way. No matter what.
The dude was depressed, though. He'd literally made a post somewhere saying "If I killed myself out here no one would ever find me" some time before this incident. The more likely explanation is that he was feeling suicidal, no one showed up to come with him on this expedition, no one was able to talk him out of it or distract him, and he finally acted on it. The vibrations and everything he described all line up with naturally occurring infrasound *exactly.* Infrasound has some seripusly scary effects. It even has the potential to kill you, though that's only in extremes. *Occam's razor,* and all that. Of course, none of these theories can actually be proven or disproven, so, who knows.
When you described your swimming beneath the barges, I immediately thought of my late Green Beret Father. In Operation Just Cause 1989, my Father volunteered as an Individual Military Augmentee with the 1st Special Forces Group-Delta to be a combat diver. His mission was to take and hold the locks of the Panama Canal. He told me exactly what you said about swimming under barges. He was swimming beneath the hulls of massive ships in complete darkness, while on his back with little space to maneuver. His tanks literally rubbed against the floor of the Canal. He was very proud of his specified task. His story was enough to make me feel claustrophobic and I was just sitting there listening. Ha! Dad proudly served in the US Army Special Forces for 29 1/2 years on two teams A-234 An Lac (5th SFG Vietnam) 1967-1969 and A-122 (12th SFG) 1972-1995. He died in 2014 after a 19 1/2 year battle with Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, bone marrow leukemia and multiple myeloma due to Agent Orange. Miss him every day.
I’m so sorry to hear of your loss. I understand how you feel. My mom just passed in November. At least, you soaked up his stories like a little sponge (no water pun was made intentionally lol) and now you’re passing his stories along. I like that. Right now, all of us that read ur comment, we just got to know about ur dad :)
Your dad was fighting all of those conditions for 19 and half years, his time in army really made his shell hard to be battling so many things at once and still have the will to live and tell his amazing stories for as long as he could, may he finally rip.
This really hit home. My father died due to agent Orange as well. His lungs basically turned to glass and every breath was excruciating. His lungs filled up and he suffocated. He was my best friend. I miss him. So sorry for your loss as well.
I toured the public part of the Paris catacombs. Large parts of it were actually beautiful, though certainly macabre. But what have me chills was noticing the lines of soot on the ceilings from the torches of long dead laborers lighting their way to work on this project. Then the line of soot dead ends into a wall. Being surrounded by thousands of human remains didn't bother me, but mystery of what lady beyond that wall, and the potent metaphor of that line to safety out of this maze of death being so thoroughly cut, gave me shivers
The feeling that he got outside the m-cave sounds to me like infra-sound. Deep bass-notes, at frequezies too low to hear for the human ear. But does affect the body, psyche and even vision. This can occour naturally if wind passes through in a cave that is shaped in such a way that it acts as a low frequenzy flute.
Building off this, another possibility would be some wonky machinery, either producing infrasound or electric fields. I've been around large transformers before that can feel really unpleasant to be around. Could be the cave linked up to a substation of some type, and if he decided to explore there are all sorts of ways that can end badly.
@@neeneko Infrasound is a very effective weapon, in fact police use it for crowd control. Infrasound is also responsible for that intense dread you might feel while watching horror films
If you go to the original M cave video, his girlfriend made a lengthy post explaining that it’s most likely he killed himself. He was severely depressed, running out of money and had spoken with her about suicide before and had said “if i ever did it, nobody will find me” and that he likely left his phone behind to avoid being traced and his body discovered
@@FBarbarian not Area 51 though. They’d never have anything secret in a place that is so widely suspected. They just let the rumors persist to keep people from searching elsewhere is my guess. My dad works in weapons development as a subcontractor for the DOD, he doesn’t know much because he’s not directly involved and i know even less, but what i DO know is that there’s no shot in hell they’d actually place anything sensitive in Area 51 given that everyone knows about it and suspects it.
Yeah this is a very famous old story from the Catacombs. I’d love to know what spooked him though. Imagine it was a mirror on the other side of the wall, giving him the impression it was another human lol. Actually that’s not funny considering what happened. But I still wonder what it could have been
My dad works in the Mojave desert and he has all his life. The amount of simply disturbing and unexplainable happenings in that span of land is so awful that many of the field excursions they do are incredibly thought out and cautioned. I mean he’s watched people die from falling into dams and getting ripped apart by the water pressure. It’s a scary place during the day, and even worse at night.
I've been exploring Mojave my whole life & get to drive through on my trucking route,I love it. Especially the amazing rockhounding & stars. But very dangerous place
My partner was invited to an underground rave in the Paris Catacombs in the early 2000's. It was deep in one of the forbidden sections and they were lead there in a group by someone who already knew the way. He said it was one of the weirdest parties he'd ever been to - a lot of gothics were there, lots of satanic graffiti and to top it all off there was a dead goat with it's throat slit. He and his group of friends obviously wanted to leave immediately but had to wait for their "guide" or risk getting lost in the labyrinth of bones. This was during a period where he lived 'van life' before it was cool and road-tripped France for a couple of years. Now he is one of the most street smart people I know and can sniff a dodgy character a mile away, thank God!
I actually found one that was clickbait lol still a good video, but the thumbnail is of a particular story that was never brought up, which was a bummer because the story behind the thumbnail is a really good one.
@@WasteLander9163 no, those agents were from a different story, a guy talks about two people visiting him who didn't seem right and looked kind of fake due to some government thing. It's a very good story which is why I checked it out.
This guy is so cool. Nowadays we have so many people doing the 'Stolen Valor' thing and saying they were Navy SEALS. But this guy actually was and he never mentions it. Badass
I mean he should be able to mention it in every video if he wants to. Humbleness is such an idiotic idea. "Lets achieve something almost nobody can do, but you cant talk about it later" pfft too fuckin bad cause Id talk about it. Like are you kidding me?
@@nickz5849 Anybody can do anything they want. Of course he could. Maybe it was lost in translation. But when someone says something positive they like about someone's projected personality, generally people don't have a nit-picky comment. To each their own. Only insecure people think being humble is a stupid thing. Hopefully you're on a path where you'll realize that one day. 🙂
I work night shifts at the hospital (security officer) and listening to these videos make my nights so nice and peaceful. the more sinister videos make me question if I'm truly alone in this 108yr old facility👻 (certain areas have an eerie feeling upon entering the room. the abandoned Operating Room is in the basement with the 1950's green tiles still present. one of my coworkers swears on his life he saw the face a woman through a window down there and he's never ran up stairs faster than he did that night) listening to your stories enhances those feelings and truly makes me wonder what I can't see next to me while I'm working 12hr shifts in a super old/quiet hospital!!
Years ago when I was in my teens, we regularly surfed during hurricanes. Before, during and after didn't matter to us as long as the waves were good. It was a big day 14+ft. I took a set wave and ate it right at the bottom. Commence the wash cycle. After being thrown around like a rag doll I found myself at the sea floor. Felt like 30 ft or so from the surface, so much pressure. Not just from the depth but from the wave above as well. I remember standing and pulling my leash to get my board so I can use the buoyancy to surface. I started to run out of air, now that is a horrible feeling. Just when I'm thinking yup I'm about to die, the pressure from the waves pass and I start to float up. As I'm getting to the surface my body can't handle it anymore and I take a nice breath of sea water. It feels like the thickest, heaviest air ever and hurts/burns like nothing else. I surface a split second later and begin to cough up and throw up at the same time. I then floated to shore and laid on the beach for a while. Being down there in the pitch black cold and feeling like you're about to drown with no way to try to get out is the most fear I have ever felt.
A note on Kenney, he was in a dark place emotionally (about to lose his home that was his prize possession, no job, out of money etc) and was very depressed and spoke of suicide. He said that if he was to take his life, he'd do it out there where no one would find him because he had to find his father after he'd taken his life and it traumatized him.
I am an avid diver and have been diving at Vortex Springs many times. Glad you covered his story here. I followed his story for a very long time. The details surrounding it and the people involved are extremely intriguing. You should check it out if you haven’t already. I’d love to hear a full story from your perspective.
Sometimes i watch Mr Ballen videos and root for the person - and then I remember that I’m a huge fan of the strange dark and mysterious delivered in story format and I’m watching a Mr Ballen video
Something I've thought about for nearly a decade, and I'm surprised no youtuber has done yet, is seriously invest time+money in exploratory robotics as a hobby. If someone built a remote controlled robotic fish and live steamed navigating it through some of the world's most notorious underwater caves, I'd watch that with popcorn.
Problem with caves is that they are usually not well suited for wireless transmission, and a wired swimming robot would be difficult to achieve (not impossible but giving the size requirements needed def not easy ) so it would have to be tracked or wheeld ,with compressed air tanks so it could fill up balloons and achieve floating when needing to go up , etc etc... Maybe one day
If you’re a fan of sneaking away from your family to binge watch MrBallen, you came to the right place. That’s literally all I do - and I do it 3, 4, sometimes 5 times a week.
Why would you be sly about watching this? It teaches you to be a lot more aware of things.It's made me not put myself in dangerous situations.You never know what may happen to you.!
Sounds like a plan. We can sit on one side of the fire and put a blue tooth speaker in a chair on the other side of the fire so it seems like he is sitting there telling stories in person. Lol
Wow! The M cave story is absolutely heartbreaking! He was scared, but let total strangers talk him into going back?! Talk about peer pressure 😔 Regardless of what causes his disappearance, he shouldn't have let people talk him into this!
@@ಠ_ಠ-ನ7ಣ Exactly. He was depressed and had attempted to unalive himself a few times in the past. The last time he went back out there wasn't an attempt to find the M cave. He didn't even bring his camera or any survival gear like a sleeping bag, food, etc with him, which is what he would normally do if he was going back out to search for the M cave, or just to hike. As Mr Ballen here said, he left his cell phone at the mine shaft he had filmed at several times, and then he just went hiking off into the desert... never to be seen again.
I'm an experienced diver. And the description of the barge to describe Vortex Spring was extremely helpful. I can imagine the expanse of darkness, and the ominous, million ton barge above you... Worse if the Sea isn't behaving. I respect you brother. I was taught that if you dive alone, you die alone. And if you succeed once. Don't try it again...
My PADI dive instructor was an ex underwater welder,with stories of being under ships with no space, and then working. I must say, he ran our class and open water like we were in the military and it was THE BEST SCUBA TRAINING ever.!
The only channel with videos I “like” before I even watch because I know I won’t be disappointed. This is crack lol, absolutely addictive. Great job MrBallen. The best channel on TH-cam.
As a Paramedic and a Biologist let me say that diving in the dark is one of the scariest things I ever did. I am a certified diver and rescue diver. I have dove in blackwater to recover bodies and I have bee around sharks and alligators. None of that compares to being a cave in the FL spings and I have dived many of them but I went in a cave only once. I want anyone that says oh that not that bad just think of complete dark where if your light fails your in nothing. The only way you know up is by the bubbles but now you can't see that and you know that your going to die because when the air is gone there is no swimming up to a pocket. So your alone cold and you know its the end most painic some make peace with life and death and God and there are no nonbelievers at that point.
This comment just made my heart start beating fast like i was in that situation i knew i would have panicked 😩 that’s why my black ass don’t fuck with the water i go nowhere near it, i don’t even know how to swim and don’t care to learn 🙅🏾♂️
Been saying that since I found him on tiktok then moved here now I send his videos to my friends to keep them on their toes and to get him noticed always good videos no matter the platform
Got my friend into him now I get to yell "DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO BELL'S CANYON?" everytime I jump out and scare him. Then we talk about episodes, it's neat.
True. Hes so personable. I've been thinking what it is that makes Mr Ballen have "it" and I've come the conclusion its just a combination of things, first and foremost the fact I think hes just simply an all around likeable guy. His vibes, the way he carrys himself and his physical expressionism as he tells the story's. He just feels absolutely genuine and I think that's also quite a big factor because not only do I feel u dont find that in as many people in the world these days, but especially content creators on TH-cam. Genuine is NOT a word that comes to mind associated with youtube lol. But it is a word that comes to mind with Mr. Ballen for sure. It's hard to dislike this guy...and I think if one does dislike him, its probably actually just them having a dislike of themselves and are just projecting that onto him for whatever reason. Lol jus my guess.
My wife and I have both been diving in Vortex Springs and Morrison Springs in Florida which both have spring caves. (Geographically close together if its the same one). The water that flows thru from the caves is cold and very uninviting even in the summer ~65°F. I can’t understand how anyone can get certified as a diver and not know how dangerous cave diving is. We had been repeatedly warned by our instructors and the sign at the entrance was enough for me to know not to go far. I went past the sign but never lost sight of the cave opening. I got additional training: advanced, Nitrox, and such but was never even interested in getting the cave diving training. It just doesn’t sound fun to me.
I believe there was a movie based of the first story. It’s called “As above so below”. It’s a pretty scary movie about the Paris catacombs. It was a good movie in my opinion.
That was actually a super good movie, it was pretty creepy and it randomly pops into my head from time to time, considering I don't think it had a huge budget well done 👏👏👏
Yeah man good film! I've been to Paris multiple times, lived there for a while too and I've been in the catacombs a couple times and at Rave in a part of the catacombs lol. But i never wandered and was never in there for long but heard some crazy stories. But i can tell you that the Parisian police do NOT fuck about making sure you dont go in there, if they know there's an entrance they will close it rapid! They will keep trying to grab you even while you're basically on but in arms reach because once you're in, they can't help you no matter what happens.
These stories make you realise some people experience the most horrifying ends. It's impossible to understand just how horrendous some of these deaths are and the utter terror experienced by those unlucky people. It makes me shudder, which is the point I guess.
Several years ago I found some old radio shows on the internet. They were Great! Then I discovered creepy patas, which had some good stories to tell. Thank You Mr.Ballen for your fine storytelling. I wish more people would get into telling stories without visual input(or very little of it). Yours are enjoyable true stories and there is plenty of room to tell fictional stories the same way. I think the public would love good stories, well told. Radio storytelling was a huge success so I think internet storytelling can become a huge success. Keep the stories coming MrBallen.
I'm always really confident and composed through out my days until Mr Ballen hits me with the strange dark and mysterious in story format. I then find myself watching my back on the way to the bathroom which is about 3 ft away from my room.
I have always wanted to explore the Paris Catacombs...the parts that aren't open to the public. I absolutely would NOT go beyond that underwater gate. I have heard about it before and I'm convinced that the only thing an unauthorized person is gonna find in there is the place where they die.
The problem with the unmarked areas is that it is super easy to get lost.. everything looks the same. If anything, it is well advised going with a group of experienced french stalkers.. they'll lead you to this fantastic room filled with beautifull graffiti. It's undescribable... oh and never ever leave the group.
Why tf do u want to go see a bunch of dead bodys? Like wtf is wrong with u people? Lol u want to go see a bunch of dead people bones that u do not know. That's weird asf that's y bad things happen to people because mfs wana go do stupid unnecessary stuff.
That's a good way to get better at English. Immersion is the way to go. That's why despite it's difficulties I recommend people who are interested in the language already to give Japanese a shot because of the sheer amount of accessible content for people of all level of proficiency (well, at least levels past what Duolingo will take you lol). So satisfying reading something in a foreign language for the first time without any real help. Too little native English speakers experience that, and it's sad.
Out of all the coverage ive seen of Kenny and the M cave, you are the first person to rationally explain the 'vibration" with the access denial system. I think that could be possible, and thag Kenny stumbled on some military instillation he shouldn't have
Fun fact: There is a rebellious group in France that have a map of the catacombs they stole from the city and they use it to gain access to all the secret entrances and passages.
Story time: I've been to Vortex Springs a few times, most memorable it being one of our open water dives during my scuba license course. As you'd expect, there was plenty of "book work" in a class going over how to use the dive equipment, local laws and of course safety which did included cave diving. Prior to our dive session at Vortex, our instructor specifically told us that there are caves here but we do not have the certifications to go in and obviously strictly prohibited it. During the dive, he eventually led our group to the mouth of the cave system to show us that exact sign warning about the dangers. This is the area where we did a few "drills" and then we were off to freely explore. I remember looking at those caves and with certainty knowing I would NEVER go cave diving. Not only because it was pitch black and I think it takes extreme courage to do something like that, but I dont think many people wonder about what's hiding in those caves. I only say this because before doing the drills, our instructor opened a can of those mini vienna sausages and handed each of us a sausage. Almost immediately we were swarmed with fish but there were also different fish we never saw prior which included white eels that scared me when I first saw them (he never mentioned the eels there). Now hearing this story totally reaffirms how sketchy and scary those caves actually looked. Especially how we were swarmed with animals we never saw prior and how quickly it became dark in there. That and my overactive imagination makes me wonder what else is hiding that's not obvious to anyone. Random side note- there is a cool upside down box at the bottom where you could go in, two at a time, and take off your mouthpiece and breath since it was holding an air pocket. It was a weird but cool feeling to know you're that deep and you're breathing "underwater".
i live about an hour away from there and i go probably 6 or 7 times during the summer and i think it’s so crazy to think about all the ppl who have died in those caves. and will never be found. after sally i’ve been wondering if any body’s will resurface
I first heard of the catacombs in high school when I was taking french. My school was trying to organize a trip to France to see the catacombs,but ultimately it fell through and I was so sad. Going to France had always been a dream of mine and I thought I was close and it didn't happen. One day I'll see France and the catacombs.
I live about 45 mins from Vortex. I've only swam there once. It gave me the creeps and the water is so cold. All that water underneath you is uncanny. A friend of my daughter drowned a few years ago there just swimming. He was 15. That place ... no bueno. Bad mojo
That "M Cave" thing almost sounds like it could've been the inspiration for one of the episodes of X-Files, the one where a high school student finds this beam of light in some cave that made him jerk around like he was having a seizure at warp speed or something, and he ended up with the ability to move faster than the eye can see.
Fun thing, my grandpa used to work at area 51. When he retired they even took a picture with the background blotted out. He never really talked much about what he did, but he loved the guys he worked with and his job!
I can relate to that. My chest gets tight when he tells the cave diving stories or any of them that has to deal with a loss of air. Creeps me out but i can't stop listening to them. Weird huh?
Vortex spring cave is a situation for a small UUV, an unmanned underwater vehicle, to scout out and finish mapping. Exploring via drone is vicarious in a way, but at least if it dies you're still around to try again later. Caves are bizarrely terrifying, both terrestrial and not, and I know for a fact it's this completely insane paranoia that it's going to collapse while I'm in there, despite existing for eons in some cases.
I live in Washington State and I’m almost positive I met Kenny Veach 2 years ago.. it was winter and I was working in a Fred Meyer store when a seemingly familiar man approached me about jeans he had on hold. I couldn’t pinpoint how I knew this man I just knew I did. And when I proceeded to ask him what the name was for the hold, he changed the subject and held a defensive attitude. Later that night I couldn’t help but think about this strange occurrence I endured with this man, until it sparked to me, he looked and sounded exactly like Kenny Veach. I still swear to this day it was him. This man even dressed like Kenny. I almost wonder if he saw something he wasn’t supposed to, and had to join the WPP. Where I live too is famous for military sites too, known as Hanford. I have always wondered
I love how you can relate to most of these stories and also share with us your military experience. Your voice is at one tone. I literally fall asleep listening to you, not cuz your boring, but it's soothing. Thank you for you content
I’ve stumbled across Mr Ballen channel a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching all of his videos! It’s almost like a sick obsession, but I can’t help to appreciate his story telling abilities to keep me and his viewers engaged!😯
I remember being at vortex springs when I was going for my dive certification but they told us we couldn't get in the water that day because the search and rescue divers were down looking for this guy. Got to talk to some of them and they said there is no way this guy was going to be found. Have dove there multiple times since because it is an awesome place but I know to stick in the main open areas of the cave near the entrance. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
That guy's an idiot. Ngl. There's a huge creepy, disturbing warning sign with an illustration of death on it and he just casually goes past it. A guy like that wasn't gonna get far in life.
That's what I thought, too. There's so much that the government keeps secret that they couldn't risk letting someone who'd infiltrated the place go!! Poor guy!
@@BoboFattt Good point! Didn't think of that. It WAS a GENUINE warning. Guess he should've heeded it! Hope he's still alive. It would be REALLY messed up if he was executed! Guess we'll never know.
As I rewatch this for the millionth time IMO back then he had such excitement and passion towards these stories the way he tells them. Now that he’s down to 1 video a week it just doesn’t seem like he has that same passion anymore. I’m not saying he doesn’t love what he does and he isn’t amazing at it. He’s the reason I get premium. I just wouldn’t want someone doing something they weren’t passionate about for the sake of other people. He’s still the best. There’s just something about him that’s captivating I wish there were more videos. I miss he uploads 3,4 sometimes up to 5 times per week
I’ve flipped in rapids while kayaking. It was a kayak with the shirt so water wouldn’t get in. Being upside down, underwater, with water rushing past you. That was terrifying enough. I couldn’t imaging being stuck in an underwater cave with no way out. I still love swimming. Never been afraid to go into the water. I’ve also been caving and it was hella fun. But y’all underwater cave divers definitely built different.
I am a college friend of Ben's from Memphis (I rushed in the same fraternity class that he did at U of Memphis) and I can assure you that as fatal a decision as it ended up being for him, cave divers are definitely built differently. Ben was essentially one of the least giving-a-fuck dudes I knew (we were 18 at the time so I'm not judging him for it). I don't want that to come across as he was 0% risk-averse, but he definitely had a wild, rebellious streak in him and it definitely seemed to be part of his identity.....like a "you can't hold me down" mentality, which was great in certain aspects of life, but when you are acting that way towards signs that say "if you go past here you're gonna die" then predictable results will more than likely follow. Most people don't know, but his brother Paul died of a stroke at age 22, two years before Ben disappeared, and in front of both their parents, which is so, so messed up, to have to watch your child slip away in front of you in your kitchen. So yeah, their poor parents, who are the nicest people on Earth, had to live with the fact that two of their three kids died before they did, each of just insane situations. Ben was a very, *very* good dude. Heart of gold. Would literally help anyone out. Only ever judged people by their actions and *always* lived up to the things he said he would do. He was as reliable as it gets, which makes his death all the more mysterious and sad. ETA: I'm not making excuses for his behavior here, but he was also in a very large amount of debt and had recently divorced from the love of his life, so while i don't think he took his own life bc of these factors, I think he was under a very large amount of stress and stress can make you make crazy decisions sometimes, so I think in the end he just wasn't in the best frame of mind, no matter how much he wanted to "get away from it all" by picking up cave diving.
I miss the days when you uploaded 3, 4 or 5 times a week. Now we get the 1. I knew it would come to it but i dreaded it. You started off saying 3, 4 or 5, then you said 2 to 3 times a week. Then went to 1 post a week. But i really do understand how much depth you put into your stories and i understand your family has grown and you were fixing your house, im so glad i found you a few years ago. Best youtuber on this whole app. Thank you for what you do!!! I really mean it
These stories are crazy.. R.I.P. to all of those souls who've lost their lives out there.. All those high risk dare devils, take note of these videos. They will really save you or at least give you a better awareness of potential dangers while engaging in those activities.
Anyone who goes into caves, even occasionally, knows that the first rule of caving is ... NEVER CAVE ALONE! Also, you should give detailed information to others who know where you are going, what time you are going and what time you are either expected back or expected to call back on your status. I have always caved with others, usually 4 or more at a time. Oh yes ... the other thing about caving is the saying "Cave Divers Die".
I didn't even know I was a fan of the strange, dark ,and mysterious delivered in story format till I found Mr ballen
Love this comment
Yes I agree.
Dude same
Same lol
Me either!!!
My worst fear now is going on vacation and ending up in one of Mr. Ballen's videos 😫
FACTS
so true lol
New true story of my life 😂😂
Or you know… being in your house and ending up in one of the videos
@@republicFORCESn1 nobody is safe
Number one thing I've learned on this channel. Cave diving is bad.
Same
YEAHS
Caves are bad and caves filled with water are worse.
Yup
-#1 thing I learned?
Don’t. Just don’t. Whatever it is you’re gonna - fucking DONT.
I have one rule for cave diving, just one rule that has always served me very well and saved my life, a rule I have never and will never break - do not go cave diving. Very effective. I can think of no more pointless, dangerous ways to horrifically die than being trapped underwater.
😂I live by the same rule - only it encompasses any cave activity - land or water, and so far it’s worked 😁
My one rule that has kept me alive so far is: don’t go underground or underwater, yes life is short but there are ways to make it a lot shorter.
There are countless more horrific ways to die, lots of them documented on this channel, mostly at the hands of monstrous human beings. What you're actually afraid of is feeling stupid while you die; and that's just sad, but so relatable. Get over it.
I went to lake Tahoe when I was 19. There this rock not to far from the shore, easy swim. You can climb on the rock and dive in the water. But also if you swim like 15 feet down there's a narrow tunnel way that carves through this large rock, you can swim through, maybe only 12 feet long. So we do it! I was the last one to go, well I lost my momentum about have way through and its so narrow you can't put your arms or legs out to swim. So I reach on the sides and bottom to push to propel myself but it all really slick, coated in moss or algae or something. So I started to panic, but i had to remind myself not to panic and reach a solution. So I wiggled my body like a worm and started to slowly move forward. I made it out of the tunnel, I barely made it the 15feet back to the surface before gasping for air.
I'll never do anything so stupid ever again.
@@alexjosephwalker8605 Yes but why would you bet on your life knowing that cave diving is risky ? Being murdered by a monster human being is something you don’t have a choice over but you decide whether you’d go cave diving. So why would anyone risk their lives knowing full well that they can die ? I’d rather die from something I had no control over than vice versa
I LOVE how this guys converts measurements from miles to kilometers and such. It is so helpful and makes me feel appreciated as a viewer lol
@Christopher Satkowski what?
@Christopher Satkowski well why would I learn the imperial system when basically all countries use the metric system? I'm guessing you're not American (otherwise commenting that would've been idiotic lol) but I dont know any countries in which both are taught
Same !! Cos I’m always like how many kms is that ? He’s awesome
@Christopher Satkowski most of the world uses the metric system and in school we are obviously taught that system we don’t learn useless things like the system that America is used to
Yes, me too! I'm from Sweden so we use kilometer so i appreciate it alot 😂
What I'll never.. And I mean never understand.. Is how people go caving or mining ALONE. Especially when there's warning signs all over lmao.
Cuz they have a Death wish
(wish for adventure + impulsive behaviour ) > value of life
Plus gates, fences, locks, etc
I think the adrenaline rush is what they are chasing.
@@DigitalRHN Understandable, but damn, the fear of getting lost or even having your light go out. I'd shit myself.
I have a story about aight good friend of mine that died when he went hiking on the Appalachian trail near Bear Mountain located in New York. My friend Chris was a risk taker. He loved skydiving, bungee jumping, rock climbing, discovering new caves which were known to be very dangerous (even for experience cave explorers). But the mountain that he decided to hike this day was a fairly easy hike, and it was a mountain that he had hiked numerous times and it was one of his favorite places to go. He hiked up this mountain called Anthony's Nose (located just on the other side of Bear Mountain overlooking the Hudson River). He started off around 5:30am just getting off a 12hr. overnight shift from work. He reached the top which only took a little over an hour. So once he reached the top he decided to rest on top of this huge bolder. There's no gate or anything that would stop u from falling off the cliff of this bolder which is about 225ft straight drop to the bottom. He never showed up for work that night and this was highly unusual because he never called out and was always there on time. His boss called his cell phone but it was going straight to voicemail because it wasn't charged the entire day. One of his coworkers was very good friends with him and his family so he called his brother and asked him if he knew were Chris was because he didn't show up for work, didn't call, his phone is off and no one has heard from him or has been able to get in touch with him. His brother knew that he was going hiking and asked some of his friends including myself if he had gone with him. But everyone told him that he was going straight from work by himself. His brother drove to the mountain and found his car parked on the side of the road just before the trail started. It was already dark outside and nobody was thrilled about hiking in the woods at night because the area was known for bears. Wolves and snakes. His brother called the police and in the morning they started the search for Chris. Once they reached the top the found his backpack and jacket, but no Chris. So after a few minutes of looking around the area, one of the officers looked over the edge of the cliff and at the bottom they saw his body. Apparently he had fallen asleep while resting and rolled over the edge. He died from blunt trauma to his head cracking his skull on a rock either on the way down or once hitting the ground. He also suffered from two broken legs, and a broken neck. He died almost instantly. He was only 26yrs old, married with a 3 year old daughter and a child on the way. He was a great guy who everyone enjoyed being around. He will be missed. Thank you for reading my story! Love ur channel Mr. B!
I'm from that area and know it very well. I love those mountains and have taken many treks alone. I won't be doing that anymore. My condolences on you loss.
Wolves? Bear mountain? Liked the story but you should have stuck with the facts. There are no wolves
I feel sorry for you😞
I hope his family can cope with his loss
I’ve lived 20 minutes from bear mountain pretty much my entire life. There are no wolves. Coyotes, yes, no wolves though. I’m sorry about the loss of your friend. That hike is one of my favorites.
Not good idea to hike solo.
His mistake with "M" cave was: once he rediscovered its location, he should have left and marked the location of the cave and then come back with dozens of people.
Yeah he should've never went alone. Also should've had someone with a drone ir somwthing follow him
@@garytaylor8193 military will shoot down drones near any military base. also 🛰 signals are blocked at certain spots for military reasons
@@garytaylor8193 I don't believe drones were trait ask that commercially accessible when he found the cave. Hell I'm only 23 and stayed as a drone hobbyist when I was in high school and the only way to really get a don't was to build it your self and the ran on ardupilot boards which was basically a stripped down arduino board and they were extremely difficult to get working properly.
@@garytaylor8193 They sell locator beacons for around 300 to 400 dollars that link up to satellites. I've used one in the past when I was out deep sea fishing and had mechanical issues with my boat. They are 100% reliable as long as you keep the batteries charged up and you are not under ground or in dense cover.
"then come back with dozens of people." Why? For a higher body count?
hell of a man, " when I was on the seal team" then admits he had fears or fearful thoughts just like anyone else. Is modest and has humility, two traits that are VERY hard to find anymore. Thank you for your service MrBallen.
I disagree, most people I know have these traits. It's not rare, just find better people to mix with.
I agree. I have so much respect for this dude.
Show me a man who says they have no fears and I will show you a liar.
No shame in having fears I am afraid of heights so naturally I go a job in high rise window cleaning on a bowman chair with 2 100 meter 9mm ropes and a 5 gallon bucket
@Riss A ok I'm a liar, thanks, have a nice day.
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I read your comment just as he said that
I got "Corey Gardner" lol
@@bakareuben2737 Fools they are! If people can't afford to pay to get rid of ads what makes YT think they can afford whatever is being advertised?
His videos are so interesting that you can’t skip any part because you will miss something and the story will feel incomplete
True, I really appreciate that he’s narration has zero fat in it.
The way he presents the stories I don't even feel like skipping that's how good he is
@Jay Martin it's not about the destination,it the journey
I dont even find the secrets coz am always sooo captivated on his stories,... Amazing story teller😊
Important to note about Kenny: his girlfriend has since said that she actually believes Kenny may have disappeared on purpose. Apparently he had a history of depression and was struggling mentally at the time he went missing, and as an explorer it would be easy for him to disappear himself in a way that he wouldn't be recovered. She noted that he had not brought his camera with him that he used to record, so his intention this time wasn't to find M-cave. That is definitely the saddest possible ending, but it comes from the person closest to him, and based on her explanation I think that is what happened.
That’s what I thought too when hearing his phone was left coincidentally right by a mine shaft. If his body isn’t inside, then it would seem someone planted the phone to insinuate he fell into the mine shaft. It’s very rare to not notice when you drop your phone especially if you’re standing up and there wouldn’t be much noise out there, I think he would’ve heard it drop. The military wouldn’t have left any trace
That's.... depressing. But understandable and make very much sense.
what is his girlfriends name? How.did you hear this ? Thanks in advance
Maybe the government forced her to say this
@@skinnygandalf4917thats what im saying
Why is it so comforting to just hear someone sit and tell a strange, dark or mysterious story. I do this every single night in bed. Please never quit doing this
Literally what I’ve been doing since I found him like 2 weeks ago
Don't do what I did and binge watch or you'll run out even though he uploads a lot.
I watch ballen reruns lol
@@astrzmbie9968 go over to creepypasta channels! You literally won’t be able to watch all of them because there’s lots of channels all uploading different things every day!
@@glurp2661 yeah since I made the comment I've done exactly that.
There are several really good true crime channels to watch and even though they cover some of the same cases, each one gives a unique perspective.
I still like John the best though so I look at the others as a supplement.
Check out disturban.
Maybe it’s comforting because you get some relief that you aren’t in one of those situations.
Getting LOST in a catacomb under Paris and having your light source eventually run out sounds like a literal worst nightmare lol doesn’t get much worse than that!
You could also be under water running out of air....see it could be worse. LoL
Yes! I was thinking the same thing lol. Terrifying.
@@JacquelynNhi Drowning would of been way better rather than losing your mind in a dark place lost and paranoid waiting to die for days.
id rather drown. I reckon explorers accidentally find other explores bodies and assume it's a demon or something. Ugh Paris. Makes it seem a lot less romantic and fun being built above a mass grave
@@PHE4_ hahah so true
Who would’ve thought that somewhere called The Gate to Hell would be dangerous?
I am sure there are some Suttle clues
@@germanperez8093 subtle*
@@rsmith8434 r/wooosh yourself
@@rsmith8434 damn that's ironic
The mind boggles!
I've heard the 'M' cave story multiple times from multiple different creators but nobody ever mentioned the guy warning Kenny he would die. It just makes the story that much creepier.
That guy was named Lemmy Killmeister? Like.. from motorhead?
Makes me wonder if that guy new the cave and found and killed him
@@epic7224 it also may have been a fake username created by an area 51 employee that caught wind of the story and tried to give him an anonymous warning. Your explanation seems more likely though.
@@0rinthianthis is exactly what I thought
@@0rinthian He's probably still imprisoned down there. Who knows what kinds of crazy experiments they're doing on him. 😨
I can't imagine going past a sign that said GO NO FURTHER OR YOU WILL DIE!....and where 300 ppl had died. I have a reeeaaalllyyy hard time feeling bad for ppl that reckless😬🤷♀️
In all fairness people do that shit all the time. You car has a few warnings to wear a seatbelt or to not put a child too small in the front seat people do it EVERY day.
@@rodleypumpkins4174 Yes because not wearing a seatbelt is comparable to going past a warning sign into a section where 300+ people have died... I get what you're saying but one thing is injury/death IF you get into an accident (majority of the time just injury), whereas one is basically guaranteed death. Not exactly comparable.
@@cokaneds yeah apples to oranges for sure bad comparison but you see what I mean. You say no don’t do that atleast one is going to say yaaaa I’m going to do it lol.
@@rodleypumpkins4174 Lol dw I see what you mean, just they're on two completely different levels (one being almost guaranteed death). That said I still think people who don't wear their seatbelt are complete idiots and if anyone refuses to wear one in my car I'm kicking them out 💯
@@cokaneds I agree with you if you want to die that’s fine do it on your own time not in my rig. Also I think about the people who have to scrape your ass off the pavement after you blow through the front window that’s very hard or your mom lol. Or my kids I couldn’t imagine leaving them over a fuckin seat belt.
But ya it’s just sad that people are that way. Some of it is probably the factor that they think they are good enough or strong enough shit won’t hurt them. Good chat tho! Cheers.
This has the most nonchalant "Back when I was a Navy Seal" flex of all time.
I don't think he was flexing but thats funny.
If I made it and became a SEAL I would be proud too.
you kidding? if I was a Navy Seal, I'd begin every sentence I spoke with "well, in the opinion of this Navy Seal, I'll have the soup with oyster crackers". You know why? cause he earned it.
@@IntegralKing Omg yeah me too
I know right
It's crazy how much I have learnt about myself after I started watching this channel. I found I have- cave+ cliff+ river/ sea/ ocean+ desert+ mountain+ so many more phobias, that it's incredible. Before, I thought I was very brave because I could go outta my room to the backyard at 2 in the night all alone, with all lights on.
thats not how phobias work but go off
@@coffeeenjoyer9099 speluncaphobia, thalassophobia, with ultimately all of these coming down to cleithrophobia being fearful of being lost with no way out/ being trapped so i think it’s actually you who doesn’t understand phobias.
@@aquarianmajo I think you’re a kid that just learned about phobias and now youre self diagnosing. They’re just creepy stories. Let’s not be dramatic
@@coffeeenjoyer9099
So explain how they do, then? I'm sure people are interested in what you think you know!
lmaoooo why is this too accurate to my life
Anyone else just feel so soothed by mr ballens voice that it doesn’t matter how insane the stories are I could just sit happy and take a nap 😂
Who is this guy and how did I get this recommendation? Former Navy seal, interesting stories? Okay, I'll subscribe
Plus he's pretty hot!
@@angelainemina2255 lol
That a great decision
It's why we're all here 🙃
U will not be disappointed. He is up front h honest so what he says he's going do he delivers on 100%+
The catacombs in Paris are so weird. You walk through narrow hallways where the walls are stacked bones. The bones are often separated by type so they stack neatly. But there will be designs in these walls by mixing other bones - like skulls for instance - in patterns. It’s a very weird for of Art work. As you’re walking through it hits you that this is what all of us become. I would look at a skull and think, this was a person. A person with fears and loves and dreams. The real creepy thing is walking in these hallways made of bones and feeling water drip on you. 😖
Momento Morí indeed.
The hallways with bones means your safe, the ones with non bone walls means it’s unmapped and you’re fucked
@@Leatherface123. I agree 😬
I agree! I visited there years ago and it was so eerie!
So Indiana Jones was a pretty accurate depiction? Neat.
Everybody gangsta untill the strange dark and mysterious is delivered in story format
Everybody gangsta until even bagels are making everybody gangsta joke
Overused stolen comment. Nice try though
@Lisa Baynham yeah that's what I was implying with my reply
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@@TiredEyePilot and they classy too!😂😂😂😂😂
I've always assumed Kenny disappeared because that M cave was actually some sort of an exhaust or vent for area 51. He likely got exposed to some really toxic stuff or saw something he shouldn't have if his phone was just found near a different mineshaft...
Either that or they captured him once he went back because he knew too much. Another guy searched the area and found where he think it was but it was covered up.
I know someone who used to do government work for nuclear testing out there. He said They did a ton of testing nukes in man made caves and underground shafts. They're full of radiation and other toxic stuff so if that guy went in one of those caves then it's possible he got a huge dose of radiation and didn't make it out.
@@wormhole331 that's been a reason I haven't liked exploring mines near my hometown with a couple friends, I know plutonium was mined in some of them around the silver and gold mines in the area.
Kenny the M cave guy,in theory didn't get lost because of his vast desert experience.He found something he shouldn't have.
Yeah i agree, especially since he was extremely close to Area 51
the rays. He was a totally sain guy. Our government is twisted and things have in recent years big things been kept from us. If something were so classified I'm sure they'd make sure it stay that way. No matter what.
@@princecrane1277 sane
Ez way to find out is double dog dare trump, you just cant resist a double dog dare
The dude was depressed, though. He'd literally made a post somewhere saying "If I killed myself out here no one would ever find me" some time before this incident.
The more likely explanation is that he was feeling suicidal, no one showed up to come with him on this expedition, no one was able to talk him out of it or distract him, and he finally acted on it.
The vibrations and everything he described all line up with naturally occurring infrasound *exactly.*
Infrasound has some seripusly scary effects. It even has the potential to kill you, though that's only in extremes.
*Occam's razor,* and all that.
Of course, none of these theories can actually be proven or disproven, so, who knows.
Things I'll never do: go anywhere Mr. Ballen says I can't go.
Very smart choice. 👍👍👍
Exactly
Agreed
Agreed
Yep - Same!!!
When you described your swimming beneath the barges, I immediately thought of my late Green Beret Father. In Operation Just Cause 1989, my Father volunteered as an Individual Military Augmentee with the 1st Special Forces Group-Delta to be a combat diver. His mission was to take and hold the locks of the Panama Canal. He told me exactly what you said about swimming under barges. He was swimming beneath the hulls of massive ships in complete darkness, while on his back with little space to maneuver. His tanks literally rubbed against the floor of the Canal. He was very proud of his specified task. His story was enough to make me feel claustrophobic and I was just sitting there listening. Ha! Dad proudly served in the US Army Special Forces for 29 1/2 years on two teams A-234 An Lac (5th SFG Vietnam) 1967-1969 and A-122 (12th SFG) 1972-1995. He died in 2014 after a 19 1/2 year battle with Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, bone marrow leukemia and multiple myeloma due to Agent Orange. Miss him every day.
So sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing. Your father was a very brave man.
I’m so sorry to hear of your loss. I understand how you feel. My mom just passed in November. At least, you soaked up his stories like a little sponge (no water pun was made intentionally lol) and now you’re passing his stories along. I like that. Right now, all of us that read ur comment, we just got to know about ur dad :)
Your dad was fighting all of those conditions for 19 and half years, his time in army really made his shell hard to be battling so many things at once and still have the will to live and tell his amazing stories for as long as he could, may he finally rip.
Thank you for sharing this story, may he rest in peace
This really hit home. My father died due to agent Orange as well. His lungs basically turned to glass and every breath was excruciating. His lungs filled up and he suffocated. He was my best friend. I miss him. So sorry for your loss as well.
I toured the public part of the Paris catacombs. Large parts of it were actually beautiful, though certainly macabre. But what have me chills was noticing the lines of soot on the ceilings from the torches of long dead laborers lighting their way to work on this project. Then the line of soot dead ends into a wall. Being surrounded by thousands of human remains didn't bother me, but mystery of what lady beyond that wall, and the potent metaphor of that line to safety out of this maze of death being so thoroughly cut, gave me shivers
The feeling that he got outside the m-cave sounds to me like infra-sound. Deep bass-notes, at frequezies too low to hear for the human ear. But does affect the body, psyche and even vision. This can occour naturally if wind passes through in a cave that is shaped in such a way that it acts as a low frequenzy flute.
Yeah, thats probably what it is.
Building off this, another possibility would be some wonky machinery, either producing infrasound or electric fields. I've been around large transformers before that can feel really unpleasant to be around. Could be the cave linked up to a substation of some type, and if he decided to explore there are all sorts of ways that can end badly.
He's in the deepest level at dulce now.. nightmare hall
@@bobhope3589 Hello Mr Bob Hope, my grandma loved your tv show, she said “you a funny man!”
@@neeneko Infrasound is a very effective weapon, in fact police use it for crowd control. Infrasound is also responsible for that intense dread you might feel while watching horror films
If you go to the original M cave video, his girlfriend made a lengthy post explaining that it’s most likely he killed himself. He was severely depressed, running out of money and had spoken with her about suicide before and had said “if i ever did it, nobody will find me” and that he likely left his phone behind to avoid being traced and his body discovered
I was feeling it was likely he took his own life.
Yeah, people tend to kill themselves when they get near government facilities
@@FBarbarian not Area 51 though. They’d never have anything secret in a place that is so widely suspected. They just let the rumors persist to keep people from searching elsewhere is my guess. My dad works in weapons development as a subcontractor for the DOD, he doesn’t know much because he’s not directly involved and i know even less, but what i DO know is that there’s no shot in hell they’d actually place anything sensitive in Area 51 given that everyone knows about it and suspects it.
@@Memphis_ritz that's all precisely why it's the best place to hide all the good stuff
Ok but where is the M cave?
"He sees with his camera a massive pile of bones but doesn't appear to be alarmed..." already I'm like "he's in the Paris Catacombs."
I thought he was at auchwitz
Same
Yeah this is a very famous old story from the Catacombs. I’d love to know what spooked him though. Imagine it was a mirror on the other side of the wall, giving him the impression it was another human lol. Actually that’s not funny considering what happened. But I still wonder what it could have been
@@Psyopcyclops he saw a spider
@@Psyopcyclops that funny as heck haha, id be so scared. good on him for winning the darwin award!
My dad works in the Mojave desert and he has all his life. The amount of simply disturbing and unexplainable happenings in that span of land is so awful that many of the field excursions they do are incredibly thought out and cautioned. I mean he’s watched people die from falling into dams and getting ripped apart by the water pressure. It’s a scary place during the day, and even worse at night.
My dad used to work at Area 51, he unfortunately doesn't have any cool stories about it though.
What's unexplainable about falling from dams or get killed by water? I mean the beginning of your.message was "unexplainable happenings"
@@OllenFrazer i think hes drawing comparisons that the mojave desert is as scary or scarier than seeing somebody fall into a dam.
The desert is a strange and wonderful place. Especially at night. I camped there one night, en route to Arizona. One night was enough...
I've been exploring Mojave my whole life & get to drive through on my trucking route,I love it. Especially the amazing rockhounding & stars. But very dangerous place
My partner was invited to an underground rave in the Paris Catacombs in the early 2000's. It was deep in one of the forbidden sections and they were lead there in a group by someone who already knew the way. He said it was one of the weirdest parties he'd ever been to - a lot of gothics were there, lots of satanic graffiti and to top it all off there was a dead goat with it's throat slit. He and his group of friends obviously wanted to leave immediately but had to wait for their "guide" or risk getting lost in the labyrinth of bones. This was during a period where he lived 'van life' before it was cool and road-tripped France for a couple of years. Now he is one of the most street smart people I know and can sniff a dodgy character a mile away, thank God!
Like the movie "As Above, So Below", creepy!
They made a movie called catacombs that had the singer Pink in the movie lol.
"Van life" never was, is, or will be cool lmao
@@thomasanderson3141 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thomasanderson3141 it's pretty cool.
what i love about mrballen is that he never clickbaits, the videos outdo the thumbnail tbh
"He never, but he does..." Oooookay, watevs. It's too bad because it's unnecessary. Irritating af.
I actually found one that was clickbait lol still a good video, but the thumbnail is of a particular story that was never brought up, which was a bummer because the story behind the thumbnail is a really good one.
Top 3 unsolvable mysteries, part 1 I believe. Again, still a good video, but was missing the story of the thumbnail.
@@healthywealthy4620 well i feel as if that thumbnail was a.. refrence¿ to the sentinel tribe he talked about in the video
@@WasteLander9163 no, those agents were from a different story, a guy talks about two people visiting him who didn't seem right and looked kind of fake due to some government thing. It's a very good story which is why I checked it out.
This guy is so cool. Nowadays we have so many people doing the 'Stolen Valor' thing and saying they were Navy SEALS. But this guy actually was and he never mentions it. Badass
I mean he should be able to mention it in every video if he wants to. Humbleness is such an idiotic idea. "Lets achieve something almost nobody can do, but you cant talk about it later" pfft too fuckin bad cause Id talk about it. Like are you kidding me?
@@nickz5849 Anybody can do anything they want. Of course he could. Maybe it was lost in translation. But when someone says something positive they like about someone's projected personality, generally people don't have a nit-picky comment. To each their own. Only insecure people think being humble is a stupid thing. Hopefully you're on a path where you'll realize that one day. 🙂
@@Samurai78420 Nahh not everybody can do anything they want. Majority of people couldnt become SEALs even if everybody wanted too
@@nickz5849 Nick, I wish you the best sir.
@@nickz5849 there overhyped so meh
I work night shifts at the hospital (security officer) and listening to these videos make my nights so nice and peaceful. the more sinister videos make me question if I'm truly alone in this 108yr old facility👻 (certain areas have an eerie feeling upon entering the room. the abandoned Operating Room is in the basement with the 1950's green tiles still present. one of my coworkers swears on his life he saw the face a woman through a window down there and he's never ran up stairs faster than he did that night) listening to your stories enhances those feelings and truly makes me wonder what I can't see next to me while I'm working 12hr shifts in a super old/quiet hospital!!
I had to go down to central supply once. The morgue was next to it. Creepy.
This give me the chills don’t go down there no mo 🥴
I would not be able to handle that job! Yikes!
Security too. Work graveyards as well. Working now while binge-watching Mr Ballen's videos. I am trying not to fall asleep.
Years ago when I was in my teens, we regularly surfed during hurricanes. Before, during and after didn't matter to us as long as the waves were good. It was a big day 14+ft. I took a set wave and ate it right at the bottom. Commence the wash cycle. After being thrown around like a rag doll I found myself at the sea floor. Felt like 30 ft or so from the surface, so much pressure. Not just from the depth but from the wave above as well. I remember standing and pulling my leash to get my board so I can use the buoyancy to surface. I started to run out of air, now that is a horrible feeling. Just when I'm thinking yup I'm about to die, the pressure from the waves pass and I start to float up. As I'm getting to the surface my body can't handle it anymore and I take a nice breath of sea water. It feels like the thickest, heaviest air ever and hurts/burns like nothing else. I surface a split second later and begin to cough up and throw up at the same time. I then floated to shore and laid on the beach for a while. Being down there in the pitch black cold and feeling like you're about to drown with no way to try to get out is the most fear I have ever felt.
I was down there too I remember it I always wished I could have done more to help you get to the top more quickly but I'm glad we both made it
@@JohnSmith-kp9uz I like how you just inceptioned my story there. Kudos sir glad "we" made it lol.
A note on Kenney, he was in a dark place emotionally (about to lose his home that was his prize possession, no job, out of money etc) and was very depressed and spoke of suicide. He said that if he was to take his life, he'd do it out there where no one would find him because he had to find his father after he'd taken his life and it traumatized him.
This, I believe his GF spoke after he disappeared and he only took his gun on his last trip, I'm conviced he took his own life.
Thank you for the extra info. That helps form a more well rounded opinion of what happened.
How do you know this?
Do you know Sharon? I hope I spelled her name right .
I swear your post sounds like something I had written or about to write.
When he said “skeletal remains” I immediately knew it was the Catacombs of Paris
I recognized the video. Its been around since the earliest days of the internet. It haunted my nightmares when I was 11 or 12
Same here 👍
As above so below
Good on ya. 😐
Same
I am an avid diver and have been diving at Vortex Springs many times. Glad you covered his story here. I followed his story for a very long time. The details surrounding it and the people involved are extremely intriguing. You should check it out if you haven’t already. I’d love to hear a full story from your perspective.
Mr Ballen could tell a story about a grilled cheese sandwich and it would be scary!
It'd be scary for the cheese🧀
It would be a cheesy scary story
I ate some cheese few days ago that still has me sick , true story, I got good story 4 u Mr. Ballen.
Revenge of the killer cheese Virginia🤢
@@virginiadunaway7142 now thats some cheese
Fun fact: you’re not scared of being alone in the dark, you’re scared of not being alone
That's cool
Boom 🤯
Noice!
I've never thought of it that way, but so true.
Yeah being afraid of the unknown
I love how this dude always says "let me offer my opinion" he's not thrusting on people. It's chill as fuck
Sometimes i watch Mr Ballen videos and root for the person - and then I remember that I’m a huge fan of the strange dark and mysterious delivered in story format and I’m watching a Mr Ballen video
Something I've thought about for nearly a decade, and I'm surprised no youtuber has done yet, is seriously invest time+money in exploratory robotics as a hobby. If someone built a remote controlled robotic fish and live steamed navigating it through some of the world's most notorious underwater caves, I'd watch that with popcorn.
For Real that sounds intresting
We should get James Cameron for that type of stuff.
Problem with caves is that they are usually not well suited for wireless transmission, and a wired swimming robot would be difficult to achieve (not impossible but giving the size requirements needed def not easy ) so it would have to be tracked or wheeld ,with compressed air tanks so it could fill up balloons and achieve floating when needing to go up , etc etc... Maybe one day
And oh , don't forget wires get caught on shit ...
@Jonathan Pal fish robots have been done before, but going into complex and narrow caves it would be without signal quite fast ..
If you’re a fan of sneaking away from your family to binge watch MrBallen, you came to the right place. That’s literally all I do - and I do it 3, 4, sometimes 5 times a week.
nickstl77 only 3,4,5 I do it all day every day
Why would you be sly about watching this? It teaches you to be a lot more aware of things.It's made me not put myself in dangerous situations.You never know what may happen to you.!
Carla Monie it’s not like that,
@@pickledorange1133 Don't know what you mean..
@@pickledorange1133 Not like what?
Just let’s make a bonfire in the woods and listen John telling stories
I'll get Smores!
Yes :)
I mean... sure as long as it's not one of the places on these lists
Sounds like a plan. We can sit on one side of the fire and put a blue tooth speaker in a chair on the other side of the fire so it seems like he is sitting there telling stories in person. Lol
That would be so awesome!!!!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate mrballen for taking time to stop inside of the dangerous cave and strip his scuba gear and tell us story's
Wow! The M cave story is absolutely heartbreaking! He was scared, but let total strangers talk him into going back?! Talk about peer pressure 😔
Regardless of what causes his disappearance, he shouldn't have let people talk him into this!
It’s pretty accepted now that it was suicide, he wanted to go back.
Pretty much anything around Area 51 and Groom Lake is a bad idea. That desert is rough without the base there.
@@ಠ_ಠ-ನ7ಣ Exactly. He was depressed and had attempted to unalive himself a few times in the past. The last time he went back out there wasn't an attempt to find the M cave. He didn't even bring his camera or any survival gear like a sleeping bag, food, etc with him, which is what he would normally do if he was going back out to search for the M cave, or just to hike. As Mr Ballen here said, he left his cell phone at the mine shaft he had filmed at several times, and then he just went hiking off into the desert... never to be seen again.
@@ಠ_ಠ-ನ7ಣ Why do you say it was accepted? Did attempt to end his life previously?
@@three6ohchris so sad! Where did you hear about his depression, etc. ?
"How much air did Ben have?"
"Three hours worth"
"Okay, if he isn't back in two days we'll send divers in to look for him"
JJ hahahah damnit
That’s idiotic but ok
😂
@@francescagreetham1804 🤣
dont blame the rescue team its his fault for ignoring the death sign.
I'm an experienced diver. And the description of the barge to describe Vortex Spring was extremely helpful. I can imagine the expanse of darkness, and the ominous, million ton barge above you... Worse if the Sea isn't behaving. I respect you brother.
I was taught that if you dive alone, you die alone. And if you succeed once. Don't try it again...
And apparently if you are at a cave entrance that is locked with a gate just look around for the guy with the key
@@bradsanders407 Just knock on the gate with a rock... More often than not, the owner will come greet you.
I swim at vortex all the time!
My PADI dive instructor was an ex underwater welder,with stories of being under ships with no space, and then working. I must say, he ran our class and open water like we were in the military and it was THE BEST SCUBA TRAINING ever.!
Yeah right blac people can’t even swim let alone dive
The only channel with videos I “like” before I even watch because I know I won’t be disappointed. This is crack lol, absolutely addictive. Great job MrBallen. The best channel on TH-cam.
You can see I see you watching me... 😎🇺🇸🥷🖤
Same! It's automatic 😏👍🏽🌹
As a Paramedic and a Biologist let me say that diving in the dark is one of the scariest things I ever did. I am a certified diver and rescue diver. I have dove in blackwater to recover bodies and I have bee around sharks and alligators. None of that compares to being a cave in the FL spings and I have dived many of them but I went in a cave only once. I want anyone that says oh that not that bad just think of complete dark where if your light fails your in nothing. The only way you know up is by the bubbles but now you can't see that and you know that your going to die because when the air is gone there is no swimming up to a pocket. So your alone cold and you know its the end most painic some make peace with life and death and God and there are no nonbelievers at that point.
This comment just made my heart start beating fast like i was in that situation i knew i would have panicked 😩 that’s why my black ass don’t fuck with the water i go nowhere near it, i don’t even know how to swim and don’t care to learn 🙅🏾♂️
You must have 0 time or buckets of cash, a biologist, a paramedic, a rescue diver, and a hobby diver.
Chills
@@im2alias202 please learn to swim, it could save your life.
That’s deep man 😦
Hi guys this guy is underrated you deserve a lot more credit
True
Thats very accurate.
Been saying that since I found him on tiktok then moved here now I send his videos to my friends to keep them on their toes and to get him noticed always good videos no matter the platform
Don’t really thinks he’s underrated. Just new to the TH-cam story telling scene. One of the best and quickly becoming recognized for his craft.
I mean there are 507K subs thats already a lot of credit if you ask me.
I like him because it's like friends talking about something one found out.
Yessss!
My thoughts exactly. 😉
Got my friend into him now I get to yell "DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO BELL'S CANYON?" everytime I jump out and scare him. Then we talk about episodes, it's neat.
No it isn’t, at all. Have you ever had an actual friend that wasn’t some fat dude across the country you never actually met?
True. Hes so personable. I've been thinking what it is that makes Mr Ballen have "it" and I've come the conclusion its just a combination of things, first and foremost the fact I think hes just simply an all around likeable guy. His vibes, the way he carrys himself and his physical expressionism as he tells the story's. He just feels absolutely genuine and I think that's also quite a big factor because not only do I feel u dont find that in as many people in the world these days, but especially content creators on TH-cam. Genuine is NOT a word that comes to mind associated with youtube lol. But it is a word that comes to mind with Mr. Ballen for sure.
It's hard to dislike this guy...and I think if one does dislike him, its probably actually just them having a dislike of themselves and are just projecting that onto him for whatever reason. Lol jus my guess.
My wife and I have both been diving in Vortex Springs and Morrison Springs in Florida which both have spring caves. (Geographically close together if its the same one). The water that flows thru from the caves is cold and very uninviting even in the summer ~65°F. I can’t understand how anyone can get certified as a diver and not know how dangerous cave diving is. We had been repeatedly warned by our instructors and the sign at the entrance was enough for me to know not to go far. I went past the sign but never lost sight of the cave opening. I got additional training: advanced, Nitrox, and such but was never even interested in getting the cave diving training. It just doesn’t sound fun to me.
U still alive, bro?
I believe there was a movie based of the first story. It’s called “As above so below”. It’s a pretty scary movie about the Paris catacombs. It was a good movie in my opinion.
Catacombs is a good movie too
@@soxpeewee I have actually never seen both those movies are they good?
@@marketajackson1828 I liked them anyway
That was actually a super good movie, it was pretty creepy and it randomly pops into my head from time to time, considering I don't think it had a huge budget well done 👏👏👏
Yeah man good film! I've been to Paris multiple times, lived there for a while too and I've been in the catacombs a couple times and at Rave in a part of the catacombs lol. But i never wandered and was never in there for long but heard some crazy stories. But i can tell you that the Parisian police do NOT fuck about making sure you dont go in there, if they know there's an entrance they will close it rapid! They will keep trying to grab you even while you're basically on but in arms reach because once you're in, they can't help you no matter what happens.
Mr Ballen could tell me a story and I’d be interested every time
fr. Lol
ever time
He could tell a story about a grass blade growing and ill watch
Lol Gilley Jacob
Facts lollll
These stories make you realise some people experience the most horrifying ends. It's impossible to understand just how horrendous some of these deaths are and the utter terror experienced by those unlucky people. It makes me shudder, which is the point I guess.
Is it weird that reading this made me shudder again
this is shuddering me too
I think this is why most ppl believe in a higher power...So that in these times of crisis they will be able to find some sort of peace
Several years ago I found some old radio shows on the internet. They were Great! Then I discovered creepy patas, which had some good stories to tell. Thank You Mr.Ballen for your fine storytelling. I wish more people would get into telling stories without visual input(or very little of it). Yours are enjoyable true stories and there is plenty of room to tell fictional stories the same way. I think the public would love good stories, well told. Radio storytelling was a huge success so I think internet storytelling can become a huge success. Keep the stories coming MrBallen.
I'm always really confident and composed through out my days until Mr Ballen hits me with the strange dark and mysterious in story format.
I then find myself watching my back on the way to the bathroom which is about 3 ft away from my room.
😂😂😂😂😂
Same!!! 😬😂😂
I pushed someone who ran up behind me lmao to much strange dark and mysterious in story format
@@jessiemoser4862 😁
I have always wanted to explore the Paris Catacombs...the parts that aren't open to the public. I absolutely would NOT go beyond that underwater gate. I have heard about it before and I'm convinced that the only thing an unauthorized person is gonna find in there is the place where they die.
The problem with the unmarked areas is that it is super easy to get lost.. everything looks the same. If anything, it is well advised going with a group of experienced french stalkers.. they'll lead you to this fantastic room filled with beautifull graffiti. It's undescribable... oh and never ever leave the group.
@@mrsmopsi9333 That's probably very good advice.
Not even if a hot girl needed your help to find the Philosopher's Stone?
@@frankieb9444 Hahaaa! Nope, she can go look if she wants. They made a lot of them so one isn't gonna tempt me like that hahahaaa!
Why tf do u want to go see a bunch of dead bodys? Like wtf is wrong with u people? Lol u want to go see a bunch of dead people bones that u do not know. That's weird asf that's y bad things happen to people because mfs wana go do stupid unnecessary stuff.
This guy is the most talented story teller I've ever seen, I can't stop listening to his stories and english isnt even my first langage
Yeah! I want to share this channel to my friends, but again the same issue, it’s in english, and not many understand it :(
I agree
@@CorporalAdrianShephard it’s too bad the automatic subtitles are always so terrible.
That's a good way to get better at English. Immersion is the way to go. That's why despite it's difficulties I recommend people who are interested in the language already to give Japanese a shot because of the sheer amount of accessible content for people of all level of proficiency (well, at least levels past what Duolingo will take you lol).
So satisfying reading something in a foreign language for the first time without any real help. Too little native English speakers experience that, and it's sad.
@@imsorryyoutube6774 Why are you apologizing to youtube
Out of all the coverage ive seen of Kenny and the M cave, you are the first person to rationally explain the 'vibration" with the access denial system. I think that could be possible, and thag Kenny stumbled on some military instillation he shouldn't have
The Paris catacombs is one of the most morbid and terrifying places ever but people willingly go down there and tag skulls like it's no big deal
I know what you mean. I have been there twice. It is such an interesting experience.
And there are people there from hundreds of years ago- many of whom died from the Bubonic Plague of the 14th century.
Fun fact: There is a rebellious group in France that have a map of the catacombs they stole from the city and they use it to gain access to all the secret entrances and passages.
@Gungnir fun fact: there are dead bodies underneath your feet everywhere you walk
@@brentg6127 True
Story time:
I've been to Vortex Springs a few times, most memorable it being one of our open water dives during my scuba license course. As you'd expect, there was plenty of "book work" in a class going over how to use the dive equipment, local laws and of course safety which did included cave diving. Prior to our dive session at Vortex, our instructor specifically told us that there are caves here but we do not have the certifications to go in and obviously strictly prohibited it. During the dive, he eventually led our group to the mouth of the cave system to show us that exact sign warning about the dangers. This is the area where we did a few "drills" and then we were off to freely explore.
I remember looking at those caves and with certainty knowing I would NEVER go cave diving. Not only because it was pitch black and I think it takes extreme courage to do something like that, but I dont think many people wonder about what's hiding in those caves. I only say this because before doing the drills, our instructor opened a can of those mini vienna sausages and handed each of us a sausage. Almost immediately we were swarmed with fish but there were also different fish we never saw prior which included white eels that scared me when I first saw them (he never mentioned the eels there).
Now hearing this story totally reaffirms how sketchy and scary those caves actually looked. Especially how we were swarmed with animals we never saw prior and how quickly it became dark in there. That and my overactive imagination makes me wonder what else is hiding that's not obvious to anyone. Random side note- there is a cool upside down box at the bottom where you could go in, two at a time, and take off your mouthpiece and breath since it was holding an air pocket. It was a weird but cool feeling to know you're that deep and you're breathing "underwater".
i live about an hour away from there and i go probably 6 or 7 times during the summer and i think it’s so crazy to think about all the ppl who have died in those caves. and will never be found. after sally i’ve been wondering if any body’s will resurface
89 comments and this came out 1 minute ago.....Thats how freaking awesome he is!!
I first heard of the catacombs in high school when I was taking french. My school was trying to organize a trip to France to see the catacombs,but ultimately it fell through and I was so sad. Going to France had always been a dream of mine and I thought I was close and it didn't happen. One day I'll see France and the catacombs.
Hope you get to go to France one day! I would also love to visit there but my dream trip is Japan.
Yes you will! 👍🏽🌹
Man this channel is absolutely brilliant, been binge watched every episode all day.
I’m still not over the salt water crocodile story!
Kelly Ehlinger what’s the headline for that one!?
Isabell Torres same title as this one but part one from the other day
Salt water crocodiles totally freaked me out, too!
Isabell Torres I think it was Part 1 of the top three places you can’t go and people who went anyways😱😱
@@Hunnie_PotOf_Gems It was basically Japanese soldiers going into a swamp and just getting eaten like 500/1000 survived
I live about 45 mins from Vortex. I've only swam there once. It gave me the creeps and the water is so cold. All that water underneath you is uncanny. A friend of my daughter drowned a few years ago there just swimming. He was 15. That place ... no bueno. Bad mojo
I'm sorry for your loss
That "M Cave" thing almost sounds like it could've been the inspiration for one of the episodes of X-Files, the one where a high school student finds this beam of light in some cave that made him jerk around like he was having a seizure at warp speed or something, and he ended up with the ability to move faster than the eye can see.
Dang I gotta check that out.
i never planned on going into an underwater cave. but after these videos, no one could ever convince me to.
The Deep Ones approve your decision.
Who else immediately thought of the movie As Above So Below when he started talking about the catacombs
Same
That was my first thought. Reading some of these comments had me saying to myself, clearly they have not seen As Above So Below.
That was my first thought when he said gateway to hell lol.
It's theorised that AASB is based on that found video actually
That movie stressed me out
Fun thing, my grandpa used to work at area 51. When he retired they even took a picture with the background blotted out. He never really talked much about what he did, but he loved the guys he worked with and his job!
Did he work on the 'moon landing' in 1969?
@@321scully Oh god... -_-
@@321scully ah a conspiracy 🥜
Amber shut up 🙄
@@SV33381 who pissed in your cereal stuart?
The M Cave situation is probably one of the most confusing and terrifying stories I've heard about.
When the frontman for Motorhead says don't go in the cave, you DON"T go in the cave.
Lol I was looking for a comment like this! Thank god someone else caught that!
Exactly! RIP Lemmy...
😅😅👍
Lemmy knows best
Everyone loved Lemmy
I'm tucked in bed and I'm ready to listen to tonight's bedtime story 😂
I accidentally stumbled upon this channel and I am OBSESSED
Me too lol
Same 😐 I binge his videos all day and then get scared at night
saaaaaaaaaaame!!!
I can relate to that. My chest gets tight when he tells the cave diving stories or any of them that has to deal with a loss of air. Creeps me out but i can't stop listening to them. Weird huh?
Me too
Vortex spring cave is a situation for a small UUV, an unmanned underwater vehicle, to scout out and finish mapping. Exploring via drone is vicarious in a way, but at least if it dies you're still around to try again later. Caves are bizarrely terrifying, both terrestrial and not, and I know for a fact it's this completely insane paranoia that it's going to collapse while I'm in there, despite existing for eons in some cases.
My blackness would 100 percent keep me out of any of these scenarios lol
LMAOOOO 🤣
Thats a snapple cap fact I with u bro
Salt Walt lmao you don’t watch horror movies
Best comment
Same lol
This is why I stay in my room like a vampire
I fee this
Same
me too, my room doesn’t have a window so i just have no contact with the outside world
I live in Washington State and I’m almost positive I met Kenny Veach 2 years ago.. it was winter and I was working in a Fred Meyer store when a seemingly familiar man approached me about jeans he had on hold. I couldn’t pinpoint how I knew this man I just knew I did. And when I proceeded to ask him what the name was for the hold, he changed the subject and held a defensive attitude. Later that night I couldn’t help but think about this strange occurrence I endured with this man, until it sparked to me, he looked and sounded exactly like Kenny Veach. I still swear to this day it was him. This man even dressed like Kenny. I almost wonder if he saw something he wasn’t supposed to, and had to join the WPP. Where I live too is famous for military sites too, known as Hanford. I have always wondered
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Well, if he IS in WPP, you just blew his location. Sad.
@@ljtlove4519eh, doubt it not many people have probably even read this comment the chances are unlikely
Haha I finally found the bastard! He's mine now!
@@he2295 riiigght
I love how you can relate to most of these stories and also share with us your military experience. Your voice is at one tone. I literally fall asleep listening to you, not cuz your boring, but it's soothing. Thank you for you content
I’ve stumbled across Mr Ballen channel a few days ago and I’ve been binge watching all of his videos! It’s almost like a sick obsession, but I can’t help to appreciate his story telling abilities to keep me and his viewers engaged!😯
I remember being at vortex springs when I was going for my dive certification but they told us we couldn't get in the water that day because the search and rescue divers were down looking for this guy. Got to talk to some of them and they said there is no way this guy was going to be found. Have dove there multiple times since because it is an awesome place but I know to stick in the main open areas of the cave near the entrance. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
That guy's an idiot. Ngl. There's a huge creepy, disturbing warning sign with an illustration of death on it and he just casually goes past it. A guy like that wasn't gonna get far in life.
The guy looking for the M cave is probably now a permanent resident of Area 51
I wanna say the 1 commenter was part of the us government genuinely warning him. But obviously couldn't tell him that
great respect for those poor brave guy. All of us are craving for the info of what could had happened to him...
That's what I thought, too. There's so much that the government keeps secret that they couldn't risk letting someone who'd infiltrated the place go!! Poor guy!
@@BoboFattt Good point! Didn't think of that. It WAS a GENUINE warning. Guess he should've heeded it! Hope he's still alive. It would be REALLY messed up if he was executed! Guess we'll never know.
Amen.
As I rewatch this for the millionth time IMO back then he had such excitement and passion towards these stories the way he tells them. Now that he’s down to 1 video a week it just doesn’t seem like he has that same passion anymore. I’m not saying he doesn’t love what he does and he isn’t amazing at it. He’s the reason I get premium. I just wouldn’t want someone doing something they weren’t passionate about for the sake of other people. He’s still the best. There’s just something about him that’s captivating I wish there were more videos. I miss he uploads 3,4 sometimes up to 5 times per week
I’ve flipped in rapids while kayaking. It was a kayak with the shirt so water wouldn’t get in. Being upside down, underwater, with water rushing past you. That was terrifying enough. I couldn’t imaging being stuck in an underwater cave with no way out. I still love swimming. Never been afraid to go into the water. I’ve also been caving and it was hella fun. But y’all underwater cave divers definitely built different.
I am a college friend of Ben's from Memphis (I rushed in the same fraternity class that he did at U of Memphis) and I can assure you that as fatal a decision as it ended up being for him, cave divers are definitely built differently. Ben was essentially one of the least giving-a-fuck dudes I knew (we were 18 at the time so I'm not judging him for it). I don't want that to come across as he was 0% risk-averse, but he definitely had a wild, rebellious streak in him and it definitely seemed to be part of his identity.....like a "you can't hold me down" mentality, which was great in certain aspects of life, but when you are acting that way towards signs that say "if you go past here you're gonna die" then predictable results will more than likely follow.
Most people don't know, but his brother Paul died of a stroke at age 22, two years before Ben disappeared, and in front of both their parents, which is so, so messed up, to have to watch your child slip away in front of you in your kitchen. So yeah, their poor parents, who are the nicest people on Earth, had to live with the fact that two of their three kids died before they did, each of just insane situations.
Ben was a very, *very* good dude. Heart of gold. Would literally help anyone out. Only ever judged people by their actions and *always* lived up to the things he said he would do. He was as reliable as it gets, which makes his death all the more mysterious and sad.
ETA: I'm not making excuses for his behavior here, but he was also in a very large amount of debt and had recently divorced from the love of his life, so while i don't think he took his own life bc of these factors, I think he was under a very large amount of stress and stress can make you make crazy decisions sometimes, so I think in the end he just wasn't in the best frame of mind, no matter how much he wanted to "get away from it all" by picking up cave diving.
Diving into any sort of cave is a big NOPE for me.
Me too. I do not understand why anyone would want to go into a cave.
same
That is a Texas sized 10-4 from me as well
@@scottygunz1245 Rogerrrrr that brother!
... any type of fresh air in general is a no no to me haha the only cave I’ve ever entered is my bed 👍🏻😉
I am so addicted to this man’s channel! I am watching all of them from first to latest!! You are an incredible storyteller!!
I miss the days when you uploaded 3, 4 or 5 times a week. Now we get the 1. I knew it would come to it but i dreaded it. You started off saying 3, 4 or 5, then you said 2 to 3 times a week. Then went to 1 post a week. But i really do understand how much depth you put into your stories and i understand your family has grown and you were fixing your house, im so glad i found you a few years ago. Best youtuber on this whole app. Thank you for what you do!!! I really mean it
The amount of thought and editing he puts in to help people understand the story is literally so appreciated
“it’s not like other caves”
me: iM NoT LikE oThEr CaVeS
So you say have you been there?
I mean that what is down there? What are they hiding
@@paulmills3418 when did he/she say he/she had been there?
What???
LMFAOOO
I’m literally obsessed with this channel… given me something fascinating to watch for hours during this lock down
What lockdown lol
@@lewizzrocks I live in New Zealand…. Part of my country is still in a lock down
@@lewizzrocks we r still semi locked down in cali lol smh
@@ScootDoot1977 I'm in NZ too!!
I said the same thing. What lockdown?
These stories are crazy.. R.I.P. to all of those souls who've lost their lives out there.. All those high risk dare devils, take note of these videos. They will really save you or at least give you a better awareness of potential dangers while engaging in those activities.
Anyone who goes into caves, even occasionally, knows that the first rule of caving is ... NEVER CAVE ALONE! Also, you should give detailed information to others who know where you are going, what time you are going and what time you are either expected back or expected to call back on your status. I have always caved with others, usually 4 or more at a time.
Oh yes ... the other thing about caving is the saying "Cave Divers Die".
Good idea to let others know where you're going, so somebody can attempt to recover your waterlogged dead body.
“Stuck in a tiny place, underwater, slowly running out of air…”
And this is why I would never try to be a Navy Seal.
Mad respect for your service in the Navy Seals. I love the way you tells the stories.
He was no seal
@@jayoutdoors1534 - there are pics and evidence he was. If you can't do it, you can't do it. But don't degrade a person's service
How do you know he wasn't.
Hint. REAL NAVY SEALS WOULD HAVE CALLED HIM OUT OVER A YEAR AGO
Whenever I'm tempted to make a risky decision, a voice in my head says, "And this is how you'll end up in Mr Ballen's stories."