I honestly love kid buu right now, him being low tier just blows my mind. His changes didn’t touch on most of these issues mentioned, but his damage with new candy beam and j.2S is actually kinda nice and isn’t height specific. I think with an optimal starter he does like 6.5k before assists, and he gets health from it each time, plus the corner carry from it is really good. Dude can go corner to corner, just needs an assist/lvl 3 for hkd. His new lvl 1 projectiles give him extra damage when dhc’ing into multi hit supers like beams, which is nice especially after a candy beam combo. So his reward is not that bad anymore. I still wish he had a clean hkd but the damage and meter is nice. Also doing DR > candy beam > mystic arm at max hitstun is really satisfying, if not very optimal.
i never really thought about it, but this makes sense. this title really isnt clickbait. he really has been powercrept in every area. i was a pink square with a 70% win rate when i was playing kid buu, adult gohan, ssj goku (gt goku when he came out and before he got nerfed, majin 21 for a bit before i decided she doesnt make sense to me) from launch up til season 3.5. i came back a couple of weeks ago and got destroyed by a bunch of players and went down to a yellow square. i know part of it is that i got worse, and that the other players as a whole have gotten a lot better, but not having the top tier privilege with kid buu anymore definitely wasnt helping at all. his neutral being considered bad now and him being a 3 touch character without doing significant meter dumping were the biggest things i noticed that were making things very difficult. i thought the neutral thing was just me being bad since last i knew he was considered one of the good neutral characters. glad to know it wasnt completely me and a small part of the blame can go on kid buu not being able to carry me anymore like he used to be able to.
This series is made it PERFECT for u to call sage and talk about godtier16 in season 1 to why now in season end (besides his B assist ) Z-broly is a better character 100%, like the scorpion/human-smoke in Umk3.
All they need to do to make kid buu really good again is this. Do you agree? Make his level 3 able to happy birthday again and buff its frame advantage by 10f Let him do a jump light after a jump medium on crouching opponents again Buff the range on his 2h and 2l Buff/lower the whiff recovery on 5m by 11f Buff/lower the whiff recovery on jm by 14f Buff/lower the whiff recovery on 1m, 2m and 3m by 10f, and buff the tracking on them Make his 5L -3 on block Make his 2m -5 on block Make his 2l 0 on block Buff/reduce the whiff recovery on candy beam by 25f, while also giving it an active hitbox on the entire beam Buff the hitbox on all of his anti air command grabs so they’re more consistent and lower the whiff recovery on them by 10f Make his new 2s let him keep his momentum and lower the recovery on it by 4f Lower the recovery on his 5s by 3f and buff its startup speed by 5f Buff the range on ex mystic ball and remove the ability to guard cancel it (you can still reflect it) Buff the startup speed on gumball by 6f Buff the startup speed on his A assist to 40f (57f is atrocious) and remove the ability to guard cancel it Buff the blockstun on his B assist to 35f and make it non 2h able. Buff the blockstun on his C assist by 3f so it’s 33f and matches other beam c assists.
@@Sell_Demon You're right, i was looking at the max combo damage thinking it was from the vegito combo just before the kid buu combo, not realize it didn't track his damage because it was P2
we need more videos like this, many characters were nerfed throughout the life of the game, ui goku should be next, pleaseeease cloud, my frien needs help, make a video about him
Nah its the community constantly crying for no reason, but that aside look at the trend: GT everywhere in s2 nerfed into ground Gogeta being trash on launch, buffed like crazy later on Zamasu trash on launch, buffed to hell Idk if it’s Bandai/ArcSys but it’s so weird how they decide which characters should be temporarily good and bad, but damn, it’s funny because even Guilty Gear had the same thing
@@Kitsune986”better neutral” that’s funny, and they gave him his damage BACK. So yea, he hasn’t gotten anything NEW positive over the last two patches, j2S which is wack IMO
@@_ZamasuYT He finally has real neutral presence in the air from fullscreen, but whatever you say, buddy. And downplaying his damage and acting like it's not a great, objective buff, lmfao!
@@Kitsune986neutral presence in the air 😂 the man has always had an arial beam and jM has always been a good arial poke which catches superdash or IAD’s on reaction. Also his damage was always good until they nerfed it and made him go 1-2 seasons without it but now it’s back. So please, tell me what did I miss?….I’ll wait
Absolutely broken in season 1 and gimmicky characters are Hit and UI. season 1 kid Buu would mix you with one move; arm ball. There was nothing you could do about it but hold the block.
@@lorencej9404 he doesn’t need that bro he’s already top tier with a lot of busted ass shit😂 no other character can super dash off of normal ki blasts either so that would make no sense. His ki blasts can already track you from anywhere on screen, and he can convert off of them with his full screen blade attacks etc.
Well the a.i. didnt get this message lol Kid Buu still beats the shit out of me in arcade mode lol i use it to warm up when i havent been online in a while.. still tryna get that S lol
I honestly love kid buu right now, him being low tier just blows my mind.
His changes didn’t touch on most of these issues mentioned, but his damage with new candy beam and j.2S is actually kinda nice and isn’t height specific. I think with an optimal starter he does like 6.5k before assists, and he gets health from it each time, plus the corner carry from it is really good. Dude can go corner to corner, just needs an assist/lvl 3 for hkd.
His new lvl 1 projectiles give him extra damage when dhc’ing into multi hit supers like beams, which is nice especially after a candy beam combo.
So his reward is not that bad anymore. I still wish he had a clean hkd but the damage and meter is nice. Also doing DR > candy beam > mystic arm at max hitstun is really satisfying, if not very optimal.
I have to see you play him and see what you talking bout
@@lorencej9404 I might as well make a video on it later, but if you are on xbox I can show you directly once im on.
@@warriordinag3921 PS5...
@@lorencej9404 Aight. Do you want annotations for the combos instead?
@@warriordinag3921I do please
I never realized how much more effort it takes both Buus to do anything until I got good at the game.
You fix kid buu damage by adding beerus to your team 🗿
Not my bubble gum glue sniffing crayon eating kid buu. Poor fella
Kid Buu in the thumbnail be like "I'm off to rediscover myself" only to comeback as Uub
Siiiiiiigh......It has been 0 Days since Kid buu dooming😔
lol
Kid Duuming?
i never really thought about it, but this makes sense. this title really isnt clickbait. he really has been powercrept in every area. i was a pink square with a 70% win rate when i was playing kid buu, adult gohan, ssj goku (gt goku when he came out and before he got nerfed, majin 21 for a bit before i decided she doesnt make sense to me) from launch up til season 3.5. i came back a couple of weeks ago and got destroyed by a bunch of players and went down to a yellow square. i know part of it is that i got worse, and that the other players as a whole have gotten a lot better, but not having the top tier privilege with kid buu anymore definitely wasnt helping at all. his neutral being considered bad now and him being a 3 touch character without doing significant meter dumping were the biggest things i noticed that were making things very difficult. i thought the neutral thing was just me being bad since last i knew he was considered one of the good neutral characters. glad to know it wasnt completely me and a small part of the blame can go on kid buu not being able to carry me anymore like he used to be able to.
Video was posted a minute ago but I know it'll be a banger
Correction 14:45, he's the only one playing DBZF
Been waiting for this one!
Kid buu and ui crawling in bottom tier together how convenient lmao
Ui? Bottom? Not amazing anymore sure, but bottom?
UI is not bottom tier. Get your head out of the sand 😅
this guy is smoking crack
@@Eyeyorothe is. Watch clouds stream on him he explains why
@@riastradhyes he’s bottom 10 maybe even bottom 5
I lowkey forget some characters are in the game sometimes lol Kid Buu is one of them
I can’t believe you guys just said Kid Buu or UI has the worst neutral in the game when piccolo still exists 😭😭😭
At least Piccolo gets to have j.L
I didn’t forget about that MK1 video you promised cloud. I’m hype asf for it. (Pick raiden)
This series is made it PERFECT for u to call sage and talk about godtier16 in season 1 to why now in season end (besides his B assist ) Z-broly is a better character 100%, like the scorpion/human-smoke in Umk3.
Still mad no Super Buu or any of the variants
this game fumbled Super Buu hard
Amen brother, I'd love to play Super Buu. Base or Gotenks absorb specifically
Maijn buu used to flow among the stars now he lays within the sand
Man went from top 1 to top 1 to top 1 to bottom 10
Never thought I'd see the day tbh
All they need to do to make kid buu really good again is this. Do you agree?
Make his level 3 able to happy birthday again and buff its frame advantage by 10f
Let him do a jump light after a jump medium on crouching opponents again
Buff the range on his 2h and 2l
Buff/lower the whiff recovery on 5m by 11f
Buff/lower the whiff recovery on jm by 14f
Buff/lower the whiff recovery on 1m, 2m and 3m by 10f, and buff the tracking on them
Make his 5L -3 on block
Make his 2m -5 on block
Make his 2l 0 on block
Buff/reduce the whiff recovery on candy beam by 25f, while also giving it an active hitbox on the entire beam
Buff the hitbox on all of his anti air command grabs so they’re more consistent and lower the whiff recovery on them by 10f
Make his new 2s let him keep his momentum and lower the recovery on it by 4f
Lower the recovery on his 5s by 3f and buff its startup speed by 5f
Buff the range on ex mystic ball and remove the ability to guard cancel it (you can still reflect it)
Buff the startup speed on gumball by 6f
Buff the startup speed on his A assist to 40f (57f is atrocious) and remove the ability to guard cancel it
Buff the blockstun on his B assist to 35f and make it non 2h able.
Buff the blockstun on his C assist by 3f so it’s 33f and matches other beam c assists.
in order to make kid buu good they gotta rearrange the entire character 😭😭😭
you never mentioned his reverse beat blockstring from 5s to 5m its pretty strong
the roshi rally beckons his name
Maruki banger in the background. Now I gotta replay Persona 5
The office worker bit is kinda accurate cuz everyone fucking hates kid buu lmao
Man I wanna play Kid BUu Fat Buu Janemba so bad but I cannot learn these damn Buu's man =(
One more kid buu patch
Maybe just maybe kid buu will get the reverts and buffs he deserves now that we are in the realm of mickey.
Send this video to Lord Knight
9:43 I mean... both combos did 34% damage. One did half a % less health but built 1.5 bars, i feel like that's more than a fair trade.
nvm
Actually vegito did like 43%-46%
@@Sell_Demon You're right, i was looking at the max combo damage thinking it was from the vegito combo just before the kid buu combo, not realize it didn't track his damage because it was P2
Don't forget about how pointless his grounded level 1 "buff" is with the extra projectiles.
HOw many times ArcSys nerfed him? And now they finally made him low tier?
Anyone know the song at 9:55? It sounds so familiar but I can't place it.
Check 9:22 🙂
@@ChromeGonzalez oh duh, I feel blind. Ty!
Will forever main Buu
FRRREEEEEIIIIZZAAAAA 😭😭😭
With all the power creeping, if he retained all the upsides, he'd only be comparable to the current bs the meta has.
i need one of these for UI
we need more videos like this, many characters were nerfed throughout the life of the game, ui goku should be next, pleaseeease cloud, my frien needs help, make a video about him
Kid buu mains big sadge
You sold me, im picking up kid buu
Is it just me or does the beginning of the video give u deja-vu
Kid Buu Player here and i can say they Cut off his Mojo so to speak... I want the One i loved back ):
I used to Main Kid buu i gotta say bro imma miss him ❤🤙
Sad day for my main
I got a question do you play keyboard or stick?
chirp chirp
I don't miss this character bruh
Good.
Didn’t the 6s change fudge up UI
Yeah it made his corner combos super weird. Idk why tf they changed it
I dont play kid buu but wholy shit he got smoked in the past seasons and didnt get anything in recent patches, the devs hate him for no reason
Nah its the community constantly crying for no reason, but that aside look at the trend:
GT everywhere in s2
nerfed into ground
Gogeta being trash on launch, buffed like crazy later on
Zamasu trash on launch, buffed to hell
Idk if it’s Bandai/ArcSys but it’s so weird how they decide which characters should be temporarily good and bad, but damn, it’s funny because even Guilty Gear had the same thing
"Didn't get anything in recent patches."
As he got better neutral and damage, something he desperately needed, lol
@@Kitsune986”better neutral” that’s funny, and they gave him his damage BACK. So yea, he hasn’t gotten anything NEW positive over the last two patches, j2S which is wack IMO
@@_ZamasuYT
He finally has real neutral presence in the air from fullscreen, but whatever you say, buddy. And downplaying his damage and acting like it's not a great, objective buff, lmfao!
@@Kitsune986neutral presence in the air 😂 the man has always had an arial beam and jM has always been a good arial poke which catches superdash or IAD’s on reaction. Also his damage was always good until they nerfed it and made him go 1-2 seasons without it but now it’s back. So please, tell me what did I miss?….I’ll wait
I need a video explaining why base Goku is not a good character even with the changes
Me personally, i never thought kid buu was good in like a "broken" kind of way, i just thought he was good in a "gimmicky" kind of way
He was literally one of the most broken characters for a decent bit, lol
Absolutely broken in season 1 and gimmicky characters are Hit and UI.
season 1 kid Buu would mix you with one move; arm ball. There was nothing you could do about it but hold the block.
kid buu pooping on akuma
Kid buu, yamcha and janemba need buffs
I don’t understand yamcha or janemba, may I ask why?
Janemba?????? nah ur smoking crack
Janemba is top tier he doesn’t need any buffs tf? Kid buu and yamcha yes
@@hatchell18 janemba should be able to super dash when using his ki blast too. That's all I want.
@@lorencej9404 he doesn’t need that bro he’s already top tier with a lot of busted ass shit😂 no other character can super dash off of normal ki blasts either so that would make no sense. His ki blasts can already track you from anywhere on screen, and he can convert off of them with his full screen blade attacks etc.
Well the a.i. didnt get this message lol Kid Buu still beats the shit out of me in arcade mode lol i use it to warm up when i havent been online in a while.. still tryna get that S lol
I main kid buu and I hate how they did my guy fr 🥲
I-impossible...
day 9 or maybe even 10? of askin cloud to play my boys majin buu and captain ginyu
Kid buu did not have humble beginnings lol. He was great for years . No problem with him being trash now in my opinion
My fav character too :/
My boi got shot and then they just kept shooting him 😭
Buu hoo 😔😔
Feels illegal being the first viewer
Ah, top tier to bottom tier..
*JJK SPOILERS*
Just like Gojo.
Man that cuts deep 😂
Buff kid buu
FIRST
Day 69 of asking cloud to play ui
He's got a UI vid coming out soon, he recorded on stream the other day, but its probably not what you want exactly.
haven’t started the video but y’all wrong frfr
I need to know if you still believe that after watching it
@@Sell_Demon bro has 4 overheads
Kid Booo👎👎
Idk why but that thumbnail is so sad 😢