The race of Jarl oppressed the race of thrall with a greater difficulty of oppressing the armed center who some call karls . working class who has a history of killing kings for overtaxing them and being the majority . Kings lived in wooden houses and had a limited men to call on to defend him and are easily overwhelmed by the majority and sacrificed to the old gods that combination of religion and execution' forcing kings to care about the feeling of his people. Christians found the best Solution. castles and disarming the peasants and turning the commoners into peasants and serfs. The race of thralls was not native unlike the other two classes, Ugly, stupid and dark haired that some seem to believe where Russians. Icelander did not want a king to rule over them and had trouble convincing Danish woman to move to unsettled Iceland resulting in the ice landers marrying Irish slave girls. Once ice land was settle Danish woman started to migrate to Ice land and helped dilute the Irish DNA. Thralls had more rights then a roman slave who can be more easily raped, tortured and brutalized. The thralls had more rights then the later Christian indentured servants who can also be raped and brutalized. Pagans where clearly nicer then the later Christians who turned woman into nothing but live stock and property. The Germanic tribes just had a less brutal culture then the romans and later Christians . Christian fanaticism , greed, obsession's with control and power won in the end and was even able to con the people into giving up their freedoms in the name of that control. Christians are no longer in a Christian created dark age and this does not mean we will not move into a whole new type of dark age that could be even more brutal then such dark times . Religious or not religious.
@@hadara69 The middle-east used to be paler with larger amounts of pale lands. The middle east used to be the dumping grounds of the unwanted, outlaws, outcast. tribes that was push out from Asia, Africa and Europe with Europe's freezing lands result in larger amount of tribes moving out of Europe. Their is a theory that that the middle-east used to be ocean.
@@robkiviranta7671 But democrats never stormed the capitol after losing an election. Republicans chanting hang Mike Pence made me think these people aren't pro life at all. What a bunch of hypocrites.
@@robkiviranta7671 Uh, no. Trump's the Fascist. Biden just wants you to survive the pandemic. Whatever nonsense you're referring to, it's not what the video's about OR why I dropped this quote. It's projection. This lecture outlines how/why white Christian Nationalism is the greatest threat our democracy currently faces.
@@soinda87 Nixone didn't. Reagan didn’t. Bush Sr. & Jr. didn’t (well, maybe Jr. a little). In fact, NO OTHER president, not even Evangelical Jimmy Carter placed their superstitious beliefs, or those of the gullible voters they’re pandering to, above reality, sanity, and OUR democracy. Trump has. He didn’t even have to know what he was talking about, all he had to do was “hold it up” and they all bowed ….and they’re STILL bowing. Facts, logic, reason, & evidence be damned. THAT is Christo-Fascism!
I quit EVANGELICAL "CHRISTIANITY" because it breeds hate. They would deny that. But I have seen that if you raise children believing that 95% of people displease God and God will torture those people in hell eternally, then you are training children to see most people as evil. This makes it very easy to hold bad views of people who are different from your group in any way.
And crucially, it teaches them they can do no wrong. If it strait forwardly taught hate then they'd admit it and be proud of that and it would all be out on the open, but instead it's a hidden evil, veils over the majority of their eyes.
@@severelychanged3679 Hell isn’t real. It’s just a fairy tale of ancient ignorant that uses submission and fear.to control weak minded people. The control is imposed by greedy, power hunger men. This has been since the beginning of time among various religious identities.
@@normanscottsailing480 Like most quotes that people find “ameeeeeeezing” on social media, it’s just a slightly clever turn of phrase for a worn-out old train of thought.
As an African American it was extremely heartening to hear your symposium. Unfortunately I don’t believe it will be well received. I will share your post. Hopefully we will bridge this great divide. I want to thank the church for having you speak
You ain’t an African American you a Hebrew Israelite yahawah choosing race and he has a judgment placed for the so called Europeans go read your Bible and see for yourself REVELATION 13:9 to 10
@@princegalatians6764 I know who I am. First of all your ignorant. Everyone from Africa is not Hebrew. You don’t even probably know where the wird Africa comes from
@@princegalatians6764 I know all about the Bible the Torah and Quran. I am way beyond those petty religions. You need to study religion. All of them are nothing but a collaboration of older religions.
@@princegalatians6764 Kan ackh!U are correct!Time for our awakening described in Baruch2:30!May TheAlmightyMostHigh Keep u Blessed and safe out there ackh!Let us keep praying for the salvation of our mighty nation in exile!Qam Yasharahla forever!HalleluYah!APTTMH!Shalowam
As a black man, can't understand why black people are Christians. They tell you all the time what they think about you. I rarely, if ever hangout with the black people who are Christian. It's hard to be around them. So when they cry about how they're being treated, I tell them remember who you're dealing with.
I am a black Christian and I'm a Christian because of the "Christ" in Christian not because of imperfect human beings who allow their prejudices to corrupt their belief in the teachings of Christ.
I think the problem is fundamentalist believe that Paul or Peter is the word of God. No, Jesus was, and I think we know know what Jesus said. Most of the sayings I think are accurate. If you even compare the Gospel of Thomas which was taken out of the canon, it is still 80% the same. And I consider Thomas important clues as well. Paul condoned slavery. Why would anyone consider Paul the final word? Jesus said Peter would be the foundation of the church and also calls Peter, Satan. The church is flawed, and Jesus warned the church will be flawed. As humans are flawed. But the heart of Jesus message was simple love others as thyself and love God. Loving others Leads to a greater understanding of yourself, others, and of God’s totality, and a more beautiful life. And it’s hard to do. I hated those who hurt me, Jesus reveals a way beyond that. Jesus also said don’t be a hypocrite and examine yourself first. Lots of Christians don’t. You don’t have to be a Christian, not here to convert you. But I think you will gain a great deal understanding what Jesus said. Maybe even more than Christians.
Missionaries came to Africa to spread the gospel. They stole our land, minerals, artifacts, natural resources and people and left us holding the Bible.
So happy to see some White churches truthfully addressing the racism problem within their churches. This is something only they can fix and once they do the world will benefit.
@@keithwilson6060 First, they have to recognize that it's a problem. That will ultimately involve the rejection of the caste values they were raised with (belief that white people are better than black, a very entrenched thought in 🇺🇸 )
@@tandt7694 That is not a very entrenched thought. I’ve been to many evangelical white Baptist churches where black members are welcome just like everyone else. If anyone here thinks that blacks are inferior, it is the left and their liberal churches, who think blacks forever need a “leg up” through affirmative action and ever easier voting processes (it cannot possibly be easier to vote) because they are “too stupid” to get an ID.
I am so happy to see this. I am a former evangelical who has deconverted from Christianity. I have no interest in listening to anything to do with the church now due to the hypocrisy I see regarding so many issues including race, helping the poor, following leaders like Trump, and many others. It is refreshing to know that some people in the church are a voice in the desert trying to get other Christians to face these issues. I thought I would never read another book about the church, but I will read hers.
Dear Laurie, I am also a reformed evangelical. I have distanced myself from the evangelical (political) movement and no longer call myself evangelical, but I still identify myself as a follower of Christ (Christian), although it does take some effort at times. I fully understand where you're coming because I've been there, but be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Jesus has nothing to do with racist attitudes and deceptions. Racism is based on the lie that one race is superior to another when the truth is that God created everyone equally. It's a power trip anyway you look at it, from attitudes regarding white supremacy to the false notion that spiritual unity can be achieved through the political realm, but, unfortunately, this represents false power because it's based on false assumptions. The "leaders" of the political evangelical movement are merely faulty human being who have gotten caught up in the world's way of doing things and have lost sight of the primary purpose of the Church. Lust for power and control defines the degeneration of mankind throughout history and even in the Church. This Trump-worship stuff is massive deception on a grand scale, and was, I believe, initiated by the devil himself in order to make the Church appear unattractive to the world, and up until now, it appears to be working, for what thoughtful and caring person would want to associate themselves with people who love and follow a clearly malevolent man such as Trump? But I also believe that God will have the last word in these matters. Political evangelicals have been misled into believe two falsehoods: 1) that they must change secular society to reflect God's laws by any means necessary, and 2) they, as Christians, must have representation in the government. Satan is a master of subtlety and deception. God has commanded His Church to do neither of these things, but only to love each other and build each other up in the most holy Faith and the love of Christ through His Holy Spirit. These self-appointed "evangelical" leaders don't understand that God is not interested in changing people's behavior who are outside of the Church, but He is and will always be focused on the heart of man. When He has our hearts, He has all of us. God bless you, my dear! Love in Christ, A Sister in Seattle
Good luck with that! You can talk about it for a millennium, but Christian racism is imbedded in all art forms. The Spanish, the Italian, the English and the Germans have led this tragedy for centuries. You see this misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia and racism in every religious painting since the dawn of Christianity.
That’s why if one CLAIMS to be “Christian” it’s not following a church or being tribal. It’s FOLLOWING JESUS. All this fake faith and hypocrisy is nothing but that FAKE & HYPOCRITICAL. 🔥
Lets be clear when you "invite black men" into the fold its on condition. The conditions are that we black men validate the stereotypes and negative things that have been associated to us. Black men and women who have families law abiding citizens married etc...are ignored if you arent conservative.
Thank you for this post, I really believe that we still have a long way to go. I think things was getting a be little better before Trump, he gave permission to everyone to be racist.
This is a must hear for Evangelicals who want to understand the difference between liberal and conservative interpretations of "Christianity." Are you following Jesus or John Wayne?
She is 100% correct. As a Christian who happens to be black I can identify with her words. I’ve tried to school some of my white evangelicals about the things she is saying. For the life of me I couldn’t see how a Christian could vote for some of the political candidates they vote for.
@@chgosatrap right but if you went to a restaurant and i gave you a plate of dirt you would say all restaurants are horrible. It is not all restaurants it is the one that gave you dirt that is horrible. Try a non-denominational church and remember everyone you see is as broken as you are some even more. Love them anyway.
It's time to start blaming those forces behind the strange GOP agenda. That would be the Protestant Church and their Evangelical loudmouths along with the Fellowship Foundation and especially their enablers (certain corporate wealth that feels fascism is a better match for their financial aspirations). People should also remember that the Protestant vote played a big part in getting Hitler elected in 1933.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” ~Barry Goldwater
@@idjles It is sad, however I take some issue with your assertion about Jesus and the “good book”, since these RW Christo-Fascists have PLENTY of material in there to draw from. Religion and Politics have been intermingling for millennia (Emp. Constantine's "conversion"), it was our secular LIBERAL democracy that was supposed to mitigate that tendency. When the GOP decided to “take God’s side” as it were on "morality issues", this destination was inevitable. They did this because they could, just as Muslim extremists or Jewish extremists do. IF GOP voters had not fallen so hard for these moronic “Wedge Issues” (abortion/gay rights) and IF it didn’t continually pay off for RW leaders like Trump, we wouldn’t be having these problems and THEY (Conservative Republicans) wouldn’t be able to employ their patented “Christian Persecution Complex” as GASLIGHTING over how they are destroying that C&S wall that protects our democracy.
Barry Goldwater, was a controversial figure in his day especially when it cam to his belief on the civil rights Bill and what the constitution said. Weather you believe in him or not, I admire his stance on separation of state from religion, Gay rights and Abortion. He stuck to his principal’s.
I was 22 in 1993 when I met a beautiful young black woman. She was attracted to me, but I wasn't attracted to black women. I hurt her emotionally, and I know I missed an opportunity for a lifetime of love with her due to my racism. I believed that because I didn't own slaves or use the N word that I was not racist. I was wrong. God has shown me the truth about myself, and He is still working on me. I've learned that those of us who want to move closer to God will, like His prophets, see the ugliness in our character. I must keep moving toward HIm, though, and learn to not run from pain nor shame. It is painful to see ourselves as we really are, but when I see that Jesus doesn't condemn me and bids me, "Go, and sin no more," I find the freedom that His love gives me. I then exclaim, "Here am I, send me!"
Duude are you serious right now!!!?????? Seriously???? If you grew up with both parents and your mother was white and you loved your mother why wouldn't you want to be married to someone like your mother. Someone who looks similar to her acts like her. Muhammad Ali said I want to have babies that look like me, whats wrong with that??? Its not racism!!!! Its called tribalism. Black males from Africa(a tribal nation) want their daughters to be married to someone from their tribe. Why pray tell is that wrong??? Im a black woman married to a white man I picked the best man for the damn job, I should hope you did the same. I hope u picked the best woman for the job. So now are you going to divorce your wife because you chose whilst being racist??? What sense does that make Clayton Bigsby???? Lets be clear God is in charge of choosing our wife/husband. Its not about love its about our duty as Christians love comes much much later.
@@markstuber4731 You missed his point, Mark. He wasn’t attracted to her because of his racist programming. Had he not been taught to shun others because of “colors of skin,” not a good determinant for judgement, he might have had a great relationship with her.
You weren’t attracted to her but are now crying about not marrying her? We are at the point that not being attracted to someone who happens to be black makes one a racist. Can you say brainwashed?
@@keithwilson6060 The same Bible says that women are property of the man and the job of a women is to please the man. As far as children go and how important the were to your biblical god read the bible and tell me how many times your god ordered every child killed; What Jesus said is that what happens between two people is between those two people and if you have ever sinned to leave it alone and mind your own business. I don't think that the left would argue with that.
This was a breath of fresh air. It amazes me how many evangelicals are so impassioned when it comes to CRT which they just discovered but silent or supportive of statues and flags honoring racist individuals. They’ll also ignore the blue, eyed, blonde hair, white Jesus posted in their Church. If they’d put themselves in their brothers shoes they would better understand how this is demoralizing and damaging the true Church. These are the systemic issues they are too blind to see. We need to keep praying for the Church.
I laughed at your comment "These are the systemic issues they are too blind to see." LMAO The idea that they are "too blind to see" is an EXCUSE people use so they don't have to solve the problem of racism. If we admit that racist leaders of these church organization are ACTIVELY working to maintain systemic white supremacy, then we don't have any excuse to let them continue it. One of the most used EXCUSES people use that allows systemic racism to continue is the idea that we need to EDUCATE them on the racist effects of their policies. LMAO Racists already know the racist effects of their policies - in fact, white supremacy is the point of the policies. The FIRST STEP to ending systemic racism is to understand that RACISTS ARE NOT REASONABLE PEOPLE AND YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH RACISTS! As long as we believe that we can reason with racists, systemic racism will never end!
They've not actually "discovered Critical Race Theory." They've swallowed what a right-wing pundit (Chris Ruffo) has told them Critical Race Theory is to whip them into a panic but they still have no real idea what the alarmingly simple & accurate theory actually posits.
No they are not blind. It's to keep the masses in place. They see there ways and choose not to change. But these folks come from the same bloodline that ate their chicken, drinked their juice and bragged about their mashed potato salad. While they set fire, underneath the black teen boy they watched struggle for life. As they strung the rope around his neck and laughed. While calling those innocent children they just hung n..gga! Our Ancestors have risen, screaming for the world to hear beyond the grave. 💯
So you have issues with the Confederate flag and the people who wear/support it Do you have issues with the flag of Ghana?? You recognize that flag right?? It's the one that black people wear on the clinch fist T shirts and the little pillbox hats. What you probably don't recognize is the fact that the CITIZENS of Ghana sold more people into slavery than any other country on this planet. But of course, you love that flag because it symbolizes your heritage which you are so proud if. Amazed to see the brainwashing is still working.
I didn’t grow up in the church, I came to Jesus in utter brokenness and began to read the Bible… All of this seemed very obvious to me coming from that standpoint. There was a clear dissonance between what I was reading and hearing from God, and what the mainstream church was teaching. That was 17 years ago, nothing has changed, in fact, after the last 5 years it has gotten much worse. I don’t know how anyone can read the Bible and think what the church is doing politically, is God’s will in any way.
You both are clueless. The truth is people of color built the farms, raised your children, and built the infrastructure of the US. But we cannot share in it equally as you. But when you need help it’s your neighbors of color that help you before your white neighbors. I will pray for you.
Get a clue the truth is history is not just yours it belongs to all of us who have made America Great. And Christopher Columbus did not discover America. There were people here already.
I was hesitant to scroll down and read the comments, because I was expecting to read some nasty stuff. It was pleasantly surprising to read all of the positive remarks to a speech that I know is not easy for many out there to hear. It is important, no, it's crucial for white Americans, especially evangelicals, to hear these points of view, difficult as it may be. We have not allowed black America to heal yet, and in doing so we further harm ourselves. We need to understand that the black experience in America is very different from the white experience in America, and once we all learn this fact we can begin to make the necessary changes to heal the systemic racial divide. Evangelicals have the numbers and the ability to get this going, you just need to have the desire and the yearning to see it happen.
While i dont particularly agree with evangelicals from a religious point of view to hold them responsible for our countries woes and to call them racist and there men full of toxic masculinity sounds like alot of the other books out there being circulated today that take a bunch of buzz words make a salad and feed it too people who want to hate on another group of people. The black community isn't being repressed by white evangelicals .It is not white evangelicals going into their communities and turning them into war zones and that issue isn't getting fixed untill it's addressed and you quit blaming it on people who have no control over it.
Unfortunately, there will NEVER be reparations given to Blacks in this country. Jewish people even to this day continue to get reparations for atrocities during a 3-5 yr period. Blacks can’t get it for 400 years for abuse, death, murder, striped of self, culture, language, mis-education, etc. etc.
@@TouchedByTruth Black Lives matters got close to 100 million dollors .How much of that money went into your communities? How do you envision getting reparations on a community lvl or individual lvl?. You do realize most white people living in america today ancestors did not own slaves .The govt is currently printing money at an unprecedented rate leading us to run away inflation wont be long and it wont matter if your black white brown or purple we wont be able to afford a loaf of bread and Israel will throw us under the bus and go to the yaun . This is all by design they are purposeley breaking the old system to bring in the new .You think you got it bad now?
You are willing to admit what many white people, believers or not, won't. That we have to share this country/world and that they cannot/shouldn't control everything. Buffalo is a cruel, extreme example of the mindset that exists in the evangelical world. That young man embraced the thought that we black people were going to replace/erase him and he'd have to be subject to lesser people.
I graduated from Baylor in 1993, and my experience of the campus was extreme racial segregation and cultural sexism. All while educating some of the region and country’s best doctors, biomedical researchers and para-medical researchers. I was there when the regents dissented from the Baptist General Convention of Texas, and my understanding was that the separation was abut preserving the integrity of the school’s medical education. On one hand, I’m surprised to see the university platform Du Mez. I think it’s really noteworthy that the seminary engage in these discussions. At the same time, I know that the Southern Baptist Convention went after Russell Moore when he resisted Trump’s white grievance rhetoric and postures. White supremacy has poisoned the church too long. It’s still hurting Christians today. Enough. Repent. Confess. Reform.
Be careful. There is an undertone of Marxism in CRT and feminist theory. It focuses on the class struggle. Identify different classes. Look at which members of the class have advantages. Then, blame differences between classes on systemic racism. Redefine "violence" to include "cultural violence." Advantage is equated with systemic violence. Please note. Marxism is rooted in atheism, which is why it is ironic that Baylor, a Christian institution, would promote a theory rooted in Marxism.
@@thomasallen6285 All lies. White supremacy was started by white people and Critical Race Theory is the study of the building of this nation and how whites came to power to rule over everyone else. CRT calls Slavery what it is and points out the brutality and cruelty of WS. It has nothing to do with marxism. Stop lying spreading fear.
@@earlinebeaman684 Read a history book, like Allister Cooke's America. The story of America is about a people who escaped from a hopeless lite in the slums of London, who had no land of their own, who lived hand to mouth, who were perpetually in debt, or were persecuted because they wanted to follow the Bible instead of the dictates of the State Church. They came for freedom. Some of them were massacred by the native Americans. Some made peace with the native Americans and had productive trading relationships. They endured poverty, hunger, starvation, and disease. Some early colonies failed. They didn't come to dominate and oppress. They came because they wanted freedom to enjoy the fruits of their labor, to worship, or to lead Godly lives. Yes there were oppressors among them, but to the largest extent, they just wanted to push the plow and feed their families, and make no mistake, the plowboys and the dirt farmers vastly outnumbered the slave masters. This modern day myth of white male supremacy ignores the actual facts of history. As far as America's rise to an economic power, it didn't happen because of white male supremacy. It happened because America had a legal system that rewarded people for technical genius and innovation. Mass production and labor saving devices were invented, not to oppress labor, but to free labor from its tedium. The whole point of mass production was so that more units could be sold at a lower cost for the benefit of a larger number of people, and the profits could be shared among the workers who would otherwise be stuck with low wages. Critical Race Theory has Marxist roots and is little more than a retelling of Liberation Theology. It is rooted in the class warfare espoused by Marx. It is the idea that from time immemorial, there is a struggle between the oppressor and the oppressed. And look at the revolutions we've had to elevate the oppressed class above the oppressors. Think of revolutionary France. That revolution devolved into chaos. Think of the Russian revolution. It devolved into a struggle between the Trotskyites and the Leninists. Look at Russia today. Look at the socialist dream in Venezuela and Nicaragua. Look at what happened when the socialist dream launched a Hitler, a Castro, a Mao, or a Joseph Stalin. American was about individual freedom-not domination and oppression.
I’m Jewish, so I come at this from a slightly different angle, but everything in this lecture rings true. I wish the lecture had been longer and in more detail. I guess I’ll have to read. I’ll say one thing: the vehemence of the anti-“CRT” (in quotes because teaching kids about racism and slavery is NOT teaching CRT) movement illustrates how much this really, really is about race.
I'm an Irish Jew (therefore, Sephardic) and it rings true for me, too! I'm trying to figure out how to cut it to make it sharable. How would you make it longer?
rftulie....I'm sure 100 that if the Republican came on strong for not teaching or mentioning the Holocaust in schools anymore the Jewish community will come out in full force....instead of fighting against the republican party 80% of Jews voted Republican and in full support of Trump....any shame in that my so call Jewish brother....
As I understand it Critical Race Theory (or CRT) is a legal theory taught in university detailing how the law has worked to further entrench racism (& indeed other forms of ism like sexism & ableism) in society at large. Like your voting laws in some states. Despite passage of the 15th and 19th Amendments many people of colour and women of all colours are still legally denied the right to vote based on other disqualifiers - such as not being able to pay a poll tax. Teaching about racism and slavery teaches a side of history some white folk don't want acknowledge to begin with. Hence lumping such teaching in with CRT taught only in university. We have similar issues here in Australia - Indigenous history just isn't taught - with the exception of universities. Despite our Prime Minister officially apologising to Indigenous Australians for the genocidal policies of the Stolen Generations. What has happened is some white blokes want more than what they're entitled to and not suffer any consequences.
@@bethdumont9020 Yeah, you pretty much understand CRT a hell of a lot better than 99% of Americans who are 'against it' and it has NEVER been taught in public schools, ever. That's what's so crazy. (The only reason I don't like CRT is that I shy away from any theory that's so overtly reductive, but that's another issue. haha) Essentially, racist people want to BE racist without having to look in the mirror or have their kids see them for who they really are. It's too bad. This could have been such a rich country in many ways if it wasn't for that continuing legacy.
This lady is so great she has been interviewed by prominent atheists. I’m a former Christian and now an atheist and she makes sense. I have read most of the Bible and it’s weird how most evangelicals don’t know the Bible at all. One told me he didn’t read the Bible. Shocking but not surprising.
My parents had me read the whole Bible and I guess I’m glad for that. Even as an atheist, I’ll have my kid read a lot of the Bible, even the bad parts. (Well not the rape and all that until they’re old enough). But I’ll let them find their own conclusions I guess
I pray you can read more of the bible where the holy spirit might convict your heart and you come back to a relationship with Christ. Paul's conversion still blows me away that he could be killing Christians and ends up writing a good portion of the new testament. May God bless you!
Here are some facts: Jesus was born on the continent of Africa ( look at a map!) Jesus was born not white, but brown - He was not European, you see. So your blue-eyed, blond haired 'Jesus' is more to do with your idolatry (1st and 2nd Commandments) than reality! The Europeans were the Greeks and the Romans ( Present day Israel have a lot of Europeans - definitely not 2000 years ago!) How then can a racist, who hate black and brown people - love Jesus?! Frankly, colour never mattered to Jesus - He loves His creation (Genesis 1; John 1; Colossians 1) Who are you worshipping if you are hateful?!
I can't even tell you how many "Christians" I have had praying for my soul after I pointed out this very thing to them. My Mom had some guy yell at her that "God was an American" lol... okay then. I don't attend church or subscribe to any particular religion anymore because of this & several other hypocrisies that I just could not continue to ignore & when I tried to ask questions about them or have any sort of discussion about it, I was basically told that my faith was flawed because apparently having faith means you are not to question anything. I got tired of going to church & coming out feeling worse than I did when I went in & decided i would just keep my relationship with God private. My in-laws are all preachers so I still get in trouble a lot but that's ok. I appreciate you for making this point & keeping it real. Blessings ❤️
@@lightnindawn7710 thank you for sharing that " God was an American!" I do love a good laugh. For the record Christopher Columbus wrote about the Indeginous People Translation : "they live with God" en dios. Referring to the practice of seeing the sacrid in all things.
I know all the names and groups she mentioned. As a blk man I have a long history with the rcsm of whi evangelicals.(I went wherever the holy spirit was, I couldn't get enough) I was even turn off to God because of their bs. It was God who showed me "not to judge Jesus based on man but his word. And Jesus IS my word." And i believed his word, the word whi evangelicals said that I should read, study and meditate on. But it was in opposition to the words they spoke and the actions they did. After that I could separate their bs from Jesus. After alllllllll these years, it is so good to hear from a whi woman who wants us to be known by our love rather than by our hate.
I’m glad you’re in a good place. I can’t imagine your experience. I’ve never understood white evangelical culture, since it seems so opposite to everything Jesus said in the Bible. Jesus was about helping the downtrodden, but they’re about treading all over everyone else.
Oh my!!Typical blq refusing to take the blinders off regarding who our true enemies are.Instead of seeking to set yourself apart from that same nation of people who can't stand u,as the scriptures command of u to do,here you're at looking for acceptance and validation from one of them,rather than accepting the truth for what it is,and keeping them at bay from us by any means.😒🙄
My father and stepmother are victims of the Evangelical church’s ignorance and bigotry. It instills in them the worst, most hateful opinions I can imagine. IMO they worship what would be the devil if he existed
In many early Christian sects and again during the Middle Ages groups like the Gnostics, Bogomils and the Cathars did see Yahowah, the God of creation, as the devil and that Jesus came to “open our eyes” and liberate us through enlightenment. Unfortunately their message was suppressed by the types of Christianity depicted in the video.
@@robinhood20253 Peoples’ beliefs have real consequences especially when people are absolutely sure they’re true. Not very long ago both racism and sexism were grounded in science (and in some quarters still are!). While I’ve never seen direct evidence of evil entities I’ve learned over a lifetime that it’s foolish to be over confident when making any assertions.
I will debate this with you if you want to have a conversation. There is several issues i have with it.Top and formost her incessant use of buzzwords and alluding that all evangelicals are racist .I do not agree with evangelicals on many points but i feel she has taken an easy target whipped up a bowl of tossed word salad and fed it to a bunch of people who want to believe the people they disagree with are racist.
Christian Theology of Ham, African people, being cursed to be a perpetual servant to his brothers to justify the Trans-Atlantic Slavery and wickedly evil injustice against indigenous peoples throughout the world clearly is not racist but is a means to justify a person’s socio-economic politics.
@@enyahyeysrael9584 I am not an evangelical I dont believe in a pre trib rapture or alot of their other doctrines .the issue i am having here is she is using a broad brush to paint a whole group of people. If you are watching current events both political culturally and geo magnetically you will see we are in that season and quite possibly rapidly approaching the times of trouble. Do you think the most high cares what color our skin is or is he more concerned with what color our heart is ?
Like a real paint brush, the strokes cover a wide swath, but the edges are less opaque. That is how “painting with a broad brush” works. It is true that most people act certain ways, and there are outliers on the edges who do not. What is “word salad” in the context of what they were discussing? Evangelical churches are huge, influential organizations that have direct access to millions of Americans each Sunday, and often on other nights of the week. One funny thing I notice at large evangelical churches near me, is how fast the patrons race out of church in their cars, cutting off other drivers, to get out as quick as possible. Perhaps, so they may get to their favorite breakfast spot before everyone else, I don’t know, but I think about what they must’ve learned that day, that they then got in their car, and immediately started driving like a maniac. Many evangelical people I know, may not be openly racist, using derogatory language to describe others openly, but they are definitely racist, and definitely believe in a weird American patriotism that is oddly masculine and brute, sort of like the guys who killed Jesus. I wonder, has it always been this way? Like, those people who long ago, went to that large drive in church, pastored by that famous dead guy who had near unfettered access to US Presidents for decades, did they believe the same things they believe now? Only, now we know it more because of social media? And, like everything else, has it gotten more extreme over the years? That happens to everything. Metallica was fringe music, then it became mainstream. Conspiracy theories have been fringe and are now mainstream thoughts. Introducing ideas to larger audiences over time will do that. It certainly is interesting that the millions of Americans who identify as evangelicals believe many of these things. They would probably kill Jesus if he somehow came back.
Very interesting lesson. First time in a long time I've seen an actual challenge in the church to improve relationships and not just go after personal prosperity.
Thank you my sister. And no racism does not shock or surprise us. We know that it exist in every fabric of life in our great country..even in the church. But it is also very encouraging for me to hear white brothers and sisters like yourself speak of love for all of GODS children, regardless of race or nationality. Although we have a long way to go, it is still very encouraging for when l see 1000's of our white brothers and sisters across our great nation marching along side of us peacefully protesting racial injustices. Listening to you has definitely made my day and has given me hope for the future of all of our children. Thank you so much my sister and may continue to GOD bless you and your entire family.
Wyts are not our brothers and sisters.Viewing them as such,despite them showing us time and time again how much they can't stand us,is what's keeping us in the condition we are presently in.Read the scriptures again.U love our enemy oppressors too much.😒
Well you'd better hurry and get saved this world won't last much longer before the 2nd coming. When He comes the 2nd time He's not coming to save anyone.
It always has a calming effect on my anxious heart when I listen to a fellow Christian brother or sister (from across the racial isle) speak with truth, clarity and without fear, about something so obvious. There’s a type of madness that is specific to the USA that has infected “Evangelicals” and other w Christians. The Christianity they espouse is suspect and compromised because of their unwillingness to practice the whole gospel. This inevitably involves public and copious repentance and repair. I wonder also, Will Christ return before they are able to humble themselves and turn away from the chains of pride, partiality and mammon? The descendants of the previously enslaved have become a stumbling block.
Kristin Du Mez, hearing your lecture confirmed what I have learned about Evangelicals since the 2016 election. Your speech connected so many dots for me. I believe that in the near future, my voice will be one among those who can see Evangelicals leaders embedded with the white supremacist. I am moved to tears. Thank you for giving this lesson in American History. May the bless you and keep you safe from the snares of the satan. Love and Blessings! ( I just ordered your book, "Jesus and John Wayne". )
In the early 00's I was at my then-husband's white evangelical church, when I tried to talk to them about how hurtful their language was, their racism against non-whites they were so dense and unable to hear I stopped going. about 10 years later I ran into the pastor and his wife at a community event. Thinking that they had plenty of time to consider my point of view I was willing to talk to them, but the wife was still so angry she refused to acknowledge me. The husband smiled nervously but then followed his wife's lead and ignored me. Oh well
What we’re dealing with here is an old old wicked spirit related to manifest destiny in a way, as well as fear. I just pray for These folk and ask the Holy Spirit to open their eyes and give them experiences that will open up the doors of change…….. and look at this book/ video! I also pray down fear and all it’s cousins. Love never fails
The thing is they would never consider themselves racist. I am an Asian woman married to a white man, had similar experience with my husband’s family church. We tried the Methodist church that the family have attended for generations when we moved back to the area with 90% white people in the Midwest, it’s enough for me to quit associating with an institution for last 15 years.
It's called unforgiveness! Jesus died so we don't have to die. We die because of our evil, which we spend our time covering up and renaming. If God's can forgive, then why not us?
@@altonbrek are you suggesting I need to forgive them for their crappy behavior? Because I feel I have moved on, and have no feelings regarding them. I was merely making the observation that they remain so uncomfortable around me they can't handle saying hello or shaking my hand
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 is the reason Israelites are not liked in this country. Listen to the bible not man and a false narrative from Christianity which we never practiced before going into our captivity in America Deuteronomy 28:68. All church traditions come from Europe not Africa, you can't trace any denomination back to Africa.✌🏿
I don't know how many people were in actual attendence , but the seemingly small numbers really suggests that separating the evangelical movement from it's racism is probably a lost cause and that evangelicals that don't hold those particular views had best just break off and begin anew, because not acknowedging this problem only makes them complicit.
The foundation of Christianity is racism: Look at its history… worldwide genocide of indigenous peoples, theft of land masses and their resources, world domination, including in the religion of Christianity as well as the Trans-Atlantic Slavery, Colonialism & modern day lynchings via police brutality.
This probably calls for a marketing genius. This event strikes me as a workshop of intellectuals. (I've been to them on various topics.) The content would put the general populace to sleep. I find this speaker highly persuasive, but so many people want a fiery orator at a mass rally, and maybe some responsive shouting with the audience.
@@What_Makes_Climate_Tick true. We're living in a moment where the likes of Mike Lindell, who could almost be defined by his weird spiritual and religious narcissism, excites evangelicals. These women help me understand the bad feeling in my gut when I read Glenn Beck's the Christmas sweater (my mother had a copy and I was morbidly curious) and when I listen to Mike Lindell. It's clear that these very public Christians have looked into the gospel message and see only themselves reflected back. And they see is profoundly theologically immature. But this is who has captured the imagination of evangelicals. If this is nothing else, it is a testament to just how superficial the theology offered from the American church has become.
I am glad I came across this video. I have been struggling with my faith due to the enbracement that evangelicals and some Christians have for racism and hate that have been displayed towards others. I'm trying to hold on but it is hard. To God be the glory.
Veronica White you have to find another church. Fortunately this day and age you can visit online church while you wait on the Lord to place you in the right ministry. Pastor Michael Fletcher of Manna.Church is a great place to visit online
Have an unshakeable, personal relationship with God, like Jesus had. That's the important thing. God is Love, if you associate with hateful people you have lost your way.
@@mickymiller6130 I understand what you mean by your last sentence. It’s best to have people around you that are positive, and loving, but it’s a bit too exclusive and simplistic. We all have family or workmates that we have to get along with. As much as possible, minimize contact with people who drain your spirit.
Wow! So glad to see this. White Christians are discussing systemic racial injustice. I will look and read some of this material. (Institute for the Healing of Racism, Madison, Wisconsin)
Only 5517 views as of Mar 15 2022. Because thinking critically about our own biases and beliefs makes us uncomfortable. So much easier to let Fox "News" tell us how right we are and how stupid those who believe differently are.
So Fox News has become the new Christian prophet? People should read their Bibles more. Don't depend on flawed people, chasing a buck, to tell you what God's word is saying. There are false prophets (read 'profit' as in Balaam!)
Finally, someone with the courage to talk about white racism in the church. I've often felt or believed that if our white Christian community, non-racist, would have stood up for what was right and biblically correct, our country would be in a much better place. I applaud Mrs. Kritn Du Mez for continuing to bring this to light. Thank You!
Big J4, I agree with your commentary there. Just as the leadership of our church is commissioned by Jesus Christ to feed His sheep, so are they commissioned to rally around the great cause of social justice by fostering the goodness of equity inside of the church first, and then secondly, advertising and speaking to, and for such good examples of brotherhood to be exemplified nationally, internationally, and universally.
I have often been shocked to the response I get from white people when I tell them that Jesus was not a white Anglo-Saxon. Jesus, in all probability was an olive-skinned, black curly haired average looking guy. He had very radical ideas, even for our current time, that men and women are equal, that every person was worthy of respect, and that ALL fell short of God's expectations. Sometimes I get the "yeah, I know" response, and then that same person will say "Trump's gonna save America". The people who agree Jesus is middle-eastern, can't see that middle-easterners are the same ethnically as Jesus! Their "Lord and Master" is the same as the Israelis, Palestinians, Turks, and derogatory name-calling of people in that region! I really don't understand what it is in the white European mind that make it think that it is superior in worth and intellect, because the One who came down from heaven, and chose to inhabit the body of a Jewish enslaved man didn't choose a white, privileged entity. In fact, none of the original 12 apostles were white. Or rich. Or free. Jesus knew all about racism. He was under Roman occupation and THEY thought Jews were less than dirt. Don't get me wrong..Jews thought THEMSELVES high..their own neighbors, the Samaritans, were not to be talked to. So how can a true Christian be one if they look at another human and say, "you don't deserve x y or z", when Jesus himself showed love and kindness to ANYONE he met? Even his own Apostle Peter was admonished by God for his racism in who to share the gospel with. The whole point of the vision of the sheet full of animals wasn't just about food. It was about race and class.
@@cyrilsneer5957 you are absolutely right, I don't know his color. My thinking was based on probability, not certainty. However, the real point is that biblically, we aren't told anything about his looks, other than he was ordinary, average. Why? Because it wasn't his LOOKS that was important, it was his MESSAGE.
@John Meador you are very fortunate then, if you haven't noticed the anglosizing of Jesus in western art. Same goes for Santa. Take a portrait of a black Christ or black Santa into a white evangelical church (one in rural North Carolina comes to my mind...yes I was actually a member at one time), and you'd have been immediately ostracized and labeled a n lover. So, good for you.
Thank you for uploading! As a 51 year old Jew who grew up in a Christian dominated society, this has been obvious for decades. Even as a young child I could see this. While I'm glad ***a few*** Christians have finally taken notice, what the heck took you so long??? This has been open and obvious to any non-white Christian and any non-Christian for ages!
My brown coworker attended a white "Christian" church due to him living in the burbs and was politely told that he and his wife were not the right fit. My coworker is an Army vet, doesn't speak a lick of Spanish and is as conservative as they come.
It's time to start blaming those forces behind the strange GOP agenda. That would be the Protestant Church and their Evangelical loudmouths along with the Fellowship Foundation and especially their enablers (certain corporate wealth that feels fascism is a better match for their financial aspirations). People should also remember that the Protestant vote played a big part in getting Hitler elected in 1933.
@@pinkcrayon1382 Nah he just got his wake up call. Hopefully he sees them for what they are. Unfortunately i doubt he will. wanting to fit in is a scourge for many people. They just hide behind whatever label is handy for that purpose. Whether they believe or not in good faith.
I don't believe it I need proof. There are sooooo many racial hoaxes out there its a crying shame. A black woman told me that a white cashier in Safeway called her the N-word. I live right outside Portland. I called her out on her BS, I was like in the middle Portland!!??? She looked at me and scurried away. The Truth should shut your mouth. Alot of black people lie about these so called racist encounters, why you may ask because it pays, in sympathy and dividends. Its called race hustling.
There is a special place in hell for the so-called evangelical movement. They have corrupted the teachings of Christ. One area I hope the speaker will address is the greed and obsession with money of this cult.
I believe that as you continue on this premise and journey revelations of more truth will be revealed to you. And I hope that you are not CANCELLED...I am a Black/Native American who happens to be a believer in Biblical Theology ie Christianity...it is refreshing to hear such truth !!!
The bible is not about religion....It's a book written by the Israelites for the Israelites about the Israelites. Black/native indian/Hispanics are the Israelites. Deut 28:15-68
The final "thank you" by a gentleman whose body language belies what he's saying is amazing. She called him out without ever naming him and he knew it. Note his body language with the crossed ankles. Women are taught to cross ankles so no one sees panties when wearing a short skirt. This white supposedly Christian man stands there, thanks the lady presenter and crosses his ankles like he knows he's been found out and has something to hide. Wild! Good presentation by Dr. DuMez.
It's hard to talk about many things with most churchgoing Evangelicals. Many have been radicalized. And of course they don't know it. ~ a White woman with bi-racial children and grandchildren
I appreciate this so much. This is what people of color are talking about when they say they are tired of explaining racism to white people, figure it out yourself. I'm a person of color, raised evangelical, around mostly white people. It's difficult to explain to a white person how it feels when some folks are racist to you, both explicitly and implicitly. It's even more difficult to describe watching friends or family be racist against other races that are not yours. Or watching them get racist of your own race because you are in the ingroup and they just seem to forget you are there. I have watched over the years as overtly racist social and policy justifications have morphed into "color-blind" social and policy justifications. If those are your policy positions, you can't just ignore their history. The North remembers. You can't just play a zero-sum game of domination vs subjugation without intellectually justifying it. I do recognize the Right's effort to grapple with race on their own with their CRT campaign. But the spirit of the campaign is not to understand and empathize. It's a campaign to dominate, subjugate, and stay in control. Same with overturning Roe v Wade, dominate and subjugate women in this area once again. Even if your sincerely held belief is that a distinct life starts at conception, the impulse is to dominate and subjugate in a zero-sum outcome.
Yes, but what must be understood about the mindset of a *"Racist"* is that they *'do not'* care about doing what is right or doing what is humane! What matters most to them, is doing what matters most to them and them only! This is called *"Fascism!"*
@@mistahoward9772 You are correct. Murder is murder. I am pro law enforcement, BUT when the good cover up for the bad, because of the “Blue Wall of Silence” it’s sickening. The rotten apples spoil the good.
You're indeed right, it's a game of domination and subjugation! Case in point, check out the comments below. It's like people want to erase the rights/views of others (trying to play God). Then they talk about Christianity. The 'Jesus' they claim to represent gives free choice. He doesn't force anyone to come to Him. It's our choice! And, He doesn't need anyone to be His representative when all along their intent is to instill their 'will'!! The hypocrisy is so blatant!! It's these same people who promote 'the importance of life' and when it starts. Yet, they are SILENT when Kyle Rittenhouse goes on the rampage and kills innocent people! They're SILENT when a WS goes to an African American church in North Carolina and is embraced with open arms and prayed for, yet turns around and slays the pastor and several congregants. Ditto for the yte cops who kill innocent Black men/women and they stay SILENT!! These so-called yte Christians are SILENT with these 'killings'!! SMH!! Miss us with your form of 'Christianity'!! I can tell you when Messiah returns, He will tell these same 'Christians' "depart from Me, I NEVER KNEW you"!!💯
@@mistahoward9772Sure, let me clarify. This nation was founded upon a world where women and black people had no political power, and native people were viewed as an obstacle to progress including bounties put on their lives; all of this well into the 20th century. As such, our institutions have these biases built into them. The U.S. was not founded as a Christian nation, it was founded as a secular nation but had mostly Christians in it, and it was they who built our institutions. Examining these biases can be difficult if you've never experienced them. But the thing is, we have all experienced this, it's just a human condition, just not everyone from the same viewpoint. For example, when a white person talks about going somewhere, for instance, a high school, and they are the only white person and the dread they feel. Well, ya, welcome to my world. And being mixed race, when I was born, public opinion was still a majority that my existence was wrong. That's a tough conversation to have if you were on the other side. If you didn't know, it's sort of a meme now, that's been around since social media took off, that people of color are tired of explaining racism to white people. Been doing it for centuries and they still don't get it. Which Southpark did a perfect spoof of in an episode. The point of my previous post is that I see the campaign against CRT, let's not get into the weeds of its definition, as another attempt to reckon with this country's history. But on their own terms in a self-motivated way. I think it's a good thing, even if I see it as remedial and just the same old white grievances politically repurposed. As for Roe, I just think it's immoral to tell someone what medical attention they can choose for their own body. If I believe that for myself, then I sure as hell don't believe it should be in the hands of lawmakers. Roe v Wade was the compromise, now it is going to be a legal wild west if that ruling actually goes through. It was passed as a compromise because there is just no good philosophical foundation to metaphysically determine where a fetus begins or ends with the mother. Saying it is already a human on conception is a metaphysical overstep that I don't think can be logically defended. I hope that clarifies. Sorry that the clarification was longer than the rant lol
I know a guy named Jett Cheek. He used to be a UNT jazz student in the 1990's. People involved in jazz are almost invariably liberals. However, this guy became a band director at the local Methodist church and shamefully took on the right-wing world view of white supremacists that usually attend such churches. When Trump became president, I remember running into posts on Cheek's Facebook page, in which he was ridiculing Latinos, talking about them as second-rate human beings, and accusing them of human sacrifice. That's what conservative Christianity is all about - treating one's own inferiority complexes through putting down others, especially those that are different from your in-group. Shame, shame, shame!
The womb of American racism and a good deal of the concept of race and racial hierarchy is WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTISM. The Pilgrims were Christian fanatics that had no problem with torture and genocide, after all the Ole Israelites did it! So god must condone it cause it’s in the Good Book. Christian based racism lurks behind a great deal in USA history.
Wow! That’s is close to my heart. How can we all become colour blind keeping our prejudices aside and seek the truth. It heartbreaking to see only 16 comments. That tells me that most people did not agree. Keep up the great service you are providing to the world community. Thanks
Well, Judeo-Christianity is an inherently fascist and bigoted belief system. If you step outside the echo chamber, this wouldn’t be hard to see. No wonder so many Qristians quickly lined up behind Trump.
thank you Kristin Du Mez for being such a proufound thinker. You made me realize that nothing changes with time with the Evangelical churh. They constantly search for ways to get power and money. The root belives are the same primitive ideas.
I am an atheist who was raised without religion, so my experiences are unlike the majority of atheists in America, who are ex-Christians. I've long had ongoing debates with ex-Christian atheists about this topic. Christians are measurably more racist than atheists. I argue that this is a circumstance of history: for a long time it was used to justify slavery, and after the Civil War, to justify racism against African-Americans. More recently, they aligned with political conservatives, who are inherently more racist. Ex-Christian atheists on the other hand argue that the Bible itself makes people more racist due to the content of the stories (e.g. rationalizing wiping out entire cities or civilizations), that even if the circumstances of American history were different, Christians would still be inherently more racist than atheists. I must confess: as I get older, I'm starting to agree with them more and my own positions less. Christianity (on average, I acknowledge that there are plenty of Christians far less racist than I am, and certain individual demoninations [e.g. Unitarians] are measurably less racist than atheists) just keeps getting more and racist as time goes on, and most American Christians are not listening to more reasonable Christians like this who are trying to sound alarm bells about where Christianity is going. There does not appear to be any brakes on this particular train, and that thought is terrifying.
It isn't just racist, it's anti-women's progress and anti anyone who doesn't believe the way they do. They believe in a 2000+ year-old story that hasn't evolved.
The stories of the Bible those people talk about are part of the Old Testament which talks of the covenant of the Jews with God. Christians are followers of Christ. Christ brought a new covenant with God, it isn't just for a single people anymore, it's for every single person on Earth. Christianity is anti-racist at its core, but as usual, human beings perverted the message for their own benefit.
I knew a narcissist who sat at the front row seat every Sunday, though he didn’t even believe in god, somehow thought he’s a good person. He would never admit that he’s a racist and xenophobic.
Wow! This was very insightful but not at all surprising. Racism is REAL and sadly not going away now or in the near future. Everything in our country now is based on race and we all need to work towards equal and fair treatment for everyone.
Aerosolized bullshit. I’m of Inuit ancestry and have studied the ubiquitous, tiresome, vocal whyte leftist woke agenda patronizing susceptible black people and converting the U.S.and Europe into a population of whining, hypersensitive neurotics who perpetuate what used to be a problem in the United States and Europe but now pales in comparison to other parts of the world where people of color opress their own, or enslave them. Ex: The west ended slavery here 200 years ago, yet on the African continent, blacks continue genocide, and enslaving other blacks! Now, free speech is being threatened, historical revisionism underway, and sexualization of children. College professors who embrace free speech are demonized, fired, and churches now becoming infected w/ woke agendas. You would benefit from reading “the diversity delusion” by Heather MacDonald or “the death of Europe” or “attack on the west” or “madness of crowds” by Douglas Murray or practically anything by Thomas‘s Sowell to enlighten yourself to the insanity that is pervading cultures. “Black Snowflakes” is another book specifically addressing you. Open your mind.
@@p.w.7493 Using absolutes, words like “everything” and “always,” to describe one particular, nebulous entity, suggests thought processes that are hyperbolic, presumptuous, and likely, highly biased. You would likely benefit from reading or listening to Thomas Sowell discuss “Race.” And one certain way to perpetuate the concept, of “Race” and deepening it’s stifling stranglehold on the dumbed-down, over-accommodating West, is to keep using the term frequently in conversation, and allowing it to define who you are. But that’s what’s happening.
When she said (speaking in the voice of evangelical thought), "'We need to toughen up. We need...'" my next thought was, "We need to irradiate masculine power into our balls with UV lights." 😂 It really has gotten that bad.
I went to a Baptist Church for school as a young child. What I saw and experienced was that these people don’t worship G-d as much as they worship fearing Satan and hell. It is very sad.
Some Christians ignore racism. There is no way that a Christian could separate a mother from a child and call themselves Christians!
Thank you.
Amen! Not everyone that say Lord, Lord shall enter. The Bible clearly states..
U are correct!That's how I know that wytes can't be christians since they've done just that to blks,and are still doing it to this day.
Most people who call themselves "Christian" are not followers of Christ.
Amen!!! Keep speaking the truth. We have to rid this country of this evil church.
“You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.”
~Anne Lamott
God created his people in his image. Pale, white and beautiful and gifted them with souls.
@@masterlee9822 Please explain how Jesus was "white" in the Middle east.
Seriously, you guys are beyond parody. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@hadara69 Roman father.
The race of Jarl oppressed the race of thrall with a greater difficulty of oppressing the armed center who some call karls . working class who has a history of killing kings for overtaxing them and being the majority . Kings lived in wooden houses and had a limited men to call on to defend him and are easily overwhelmed by the majority and sacrificed to the old gods that combination of religion and execution' forcing kings to care about the feeling of his people. Christians found the best Solution. castles and disarming the peasants and turning the commoners into peasants and serfs. The race of thralls was not native unlike the other two classes, Ugly, stupid and dark haired that some seem to believe where Russians. Icelander did not want a king to rule over them and had trouble convincing Danish woman to move to unsettled Iceland resulting in the ice landers marrying Irish slave girls. Once ice land was settle Danish woman started to migrate to Ice land and helped dilute the Irish DNA. Thralls had more rights then a roman slave who can be more easily raped, tortured and brutalized. The thralls had more rights then the later Christian indentured servants who can also be raped and brutalized. Pagans where clearly nicer then the later Christians who turned woman into nothing but live stock and property. The Germanic tribes just had a less brutal culture then the romans and later Christians . Christian fanaticism , greed, obsession's with control and power won in the end and was even able to con the people into giving up their freedoms in the name of that control. Christians are no longer in a Christian created dark age and this does not mean we will not move into a whole new type of dark age that could be even more brutal then such dark times . Religious or not religious.
@@hadara69 The middle-east used to be paler with larger amounts of pale lands. The middle east used to be the dumping grounds of the unwanted, outlaws, outcast. tribes that was push out from Asia, Africa and Europe with Europe's freezing lands result in larger amount of tribes moving out of Europe. Their is a theory that that the middle-east used to be ocean.
Whenever an evangelical comes to my door to tell me the good news I tell that person I don't want to join the republican party and then shut the door.
Hilarious!🤣
Billy Graham ....lifelong Democrat!
@@robkiviranta7671 So was Trump just a few years ago.What's your point ?
@@seymourbutts4654 Forget the R and the D. Any political party can behave like fascists....or freedom fighters.
@@robkiviranta7671 But democrats never stormed the capitol after losing an election. Republicans chanting hang Mike Pence made me think these people aren't pro life at all. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Thank you for this. I have been watching white racism in the church since a child in the 60s. Glad they gave you the pulpit to speak from.
lol
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in("Hugging") the flag and carrying a cross(Bible)."
~Sinclair Lewis
Yes I am sure seeing a lot of that from Washington these days!
@@robkiviranta7671 Uh, no. Trump's the Fascist.
Biden just wants you to survive the pandemic. Whatever nonsense you're referring to, it's not what the video's about OR why I dropped this quote.
It's projection. This lecture outlines how/why white Christian Nationalism is the greatest threat our democracy currently faces.
Carrying the Bible isn’t new if you know you know.
@@soinda87 Nixone didn't. Reagan didn’t. Bush Sr. & Jr. didn’t (well, maybe Jr. a little).
In fact, NO OTHER president, not even Evangelical Jimmy Carter placed their superstitious beliefs, or those of the gullible voters they’re pandering to, above reality, sanity, and OUR democracy.
Trump has.
He didn’t even have to know what he was talking about, all he had to do was “hold it up” and they all bowed
….and they’re STILL bowing.
Facts, logic, reason, & evidence be damned.
THAT is Christo-Fascism!
@@soinda87 You miss the point.
Thank you for calling out the hypocrisy in many so-called Christians.
WHITE CHRISTIANS
Not many … some.
@@hernanalovesher7983 no, most
@@hernanalovesher7983 A huge swathe of all white Christians
John Wayne and TR wasn't known as evangelists lol
I quit EVANGELICAL "CHRISTIANITY" because it breeds hate. They would deny that. But I have seen that if you raise children believing that 95% of people displease God and God will torture those people in hell eternally, then you are training children to see most people as evil. This makes it very easy to hold bad views of people who are different from your group in any way.
Well hell is true. That said love died for you to not to go there, but if you hate anyone you are a murderer from the heart.
@@severelychanged3679 No one knows whether or not hell is true.. But if it is, we certainly don't want to go there!
And crucially, it teaches them they can do no wrong. If it strait forwardly taught hate then they'd admit it and be proud of that and it would all be out on the open, but instead it's a hidden evil, veils over the majority of their eyes.
@@subcitizen2012 Facts!!
@@severelychanged3679 Hell isn’t real. It’s just a fairy tale of ancient ignorant that uses submission and fear.to control weak minded people. The control is imposed by greedy, power hunger men. This has been since the beginning of time among various religious identities.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
~Lucius Annaeus Seneca
However, let's not go by the opinions of dead people who had no hope. Life is much richer than what is revealed to the short-sighted.
immenently quotable
@@altonbrek "Let's not go by the opinions of dead people "? Who's the real fool with idiotic words like that?
Another tiresome quote from yet another troubled yet aggressive atheist. Mind your own business.
@@normanscottsailing480 Like most quotes that people find “ameeeeeeezing” on social media, it’s just a slightly clever turn of phrase for a worn-out old train of thought.
As an African American it was extremely heartening to hear your symposium. Unfortunately I don’t believe it will be well received. I will share your post. Hopefully we will bridge this great divide. I want to thank the church for having you speak
You ain’t an African American you a Hebrew Israelite yahawah choosing race and he has a judgment placed for the so called Europeans go read your Bible and see for yourself REVELATION 13:9 to 10
@@princegalatians6764 I know who I am. First of all your ignorant. Everyone from Africa is not Hebrew. You don’t even probably know where the wird Africa comes from
@@princegalatians6764 I know all about the Bible the Torah and Quran. I am way beyond those petty religions. You need to study religion. All of them are nothing but a collaboration of older religions.
@@princegalatians6764 Kan ackh!U are correct!Time for our awakening described in Baruch2:30!May TheAlmightyMostHigh Keep u Blessed and safe out there ackh!Let us keep praying for the salvation of our mighty nation in exile!Qam Yasharahla forever!HalleluYah!APTTMH!Shalowam
@@princegalatians6764 The book of Revelation is a book of lies written by a lying heretic who's in hell even as I type this.
As a black man, can't understand why black people are Christians. They tell you all the time what they think about you. I rarely, if ever hangout with the black people who are Christian. It's hard to be around them. So when they cry about how they're being treated, I tell them remember who you're dealing with.
I am a black Christian and I'm a Christian because of the "Christ" in Christian not because of imperfect human beings who allow their prejudices to corrupt their belief in the teachings of Christ.
I think the problem is fundamentalist believe that Paul or Peter is the word of God. No, Jesus was, and I think we know know what Jesus said.
Most of the sayings I think are accurate. If you even compare the Gospel of Thomas which was taken out of the canon, it is still 80% the same. And I consider Thomas important clues as well.
Paul condoned slavery. Why would anyone consider Paul the final word?
Jesus said Peter would be the foundation of the church and also calls Peter, Satan. The church is flawed, and Jesus warned the church will be flawed. As humans are flawed.
But the heart of Jesus message was simple love others as thyself and love God. Loving others Leads to a greater understanding of yourself, others, and of God’s totality, and a more beautiful life. And it’s hard to do. I hated those who hurt me, Jesus reveals a way beyond that.
Jesus also said don’t be a hypocrite and examine yourself first. Lots of Christians don’t.
You don’t have to be a Christian, not here to convert you. But I think you will gain a great deal understanding what Jesus said. Maybe even more than Christians.
Missionaries came to Africa to spread the gospel. They stole our land, minerals, artifacts, natural resources and people and left us holding the Bible.
Plus christians are always fcking with people. If you tell them you don't want to hear it, they keep nagging you
It’s all about the money
So happy to see some White churches truthfully addressing the racism problem within their churches. This is something only they can fix and once they do the world will benefit.
How do they “fix” it?
I don’t know… it’s very entrenched.
@@keithwilson6060 First, they have to recognize that it's a problem. That will ultimately involve the rejection of the caste values they were raised with (belief that white people are better than black, a very entrenched thought in 🇺🇸 )
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That is not a very entrenched thought. I’ve been to many evangelical white Baptist churches where black members are welcome just like everyone else. If anyone here thinks that blacks are inferior, it is the left and their liberal churches, who think blacks forever need a “leg up” through affirmative action and ever easier voting processes (it cannot possibly be easier to vote) because they are “too stupid” to get an ID.
@@keithwilson6060 start by Amit it
I am so happy to see this. I am a former evangelical who has deconverted from Christianity. I have no interest in listening to anything to do with the church now due to the hypocrisy I see regarding so many issues including race, helping the poor, following leaders like Trump, and many others. It is refreshing to know that some people in the church are a voice in the desert trying to get other Christians to face these issues. I thought I would never read another book about the church, but I will read hers.
They have the same understanding of the Constitution and the founding of our country.
Dear Laurie,
I am also a reformed evangelical. I have distanced myself from the evangelical (political) movement and no longer call myself evangelical, but I still identify myself as a follower of Christ (Christian), although it does take some effort at times. I fully understand where you're coming because I've been there, but be careful not to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Jesus has nothing to do with racist attitudes and deceptions. Racism is based on the lie that one race is superior to another when the truth is that God created everyone equally. It's a power trip anyway you look at it, from attitudes regarding white supremacy to the false notion that spiritual unity can be achieved through the political realm, but, unfortunately, this represents false power because it's based on false assumptions. The "leaders" of the political evangelical movement are merely faulty human being who have gotten caught up in the world's way of doing things and have lost sight of the primary purpose of the Church. Lust for power and control defines the degeneration of mankind throughout history and even in the Church. This Trump-worship stuff is massive deception on a grand scale, and was, I believe, initiated by the devil himself in order to make the Church appear unattractive to the world, and up until now, it appears to be working, for what thoughtful and caring person would want to associate themselves with people who love and follow a clearly malevolent man such as Trump? But I also believe that God will have the last word in these matters.
Political evangelicals have been misled into believe two falsehoods: 1) that they must change secular society to reflect God's laws by any means necessary, and 2) they, as Christians, must have representation in the government. Satan is a master of subtlety and deception. God has commanded His Church to do neither of these things, but only to love each other and build each other up in the most holy Faith and the love of Christ through His Holy Spirit. These self-appointed "evangelical" leaders don't understand that God is not interested in changing people's behavior who are outside of the Church, but He is and will always be focused on the heart of man. When He has our hearts, He has all of us. God bless you, my dear!
Love in Christ,
A Sister in Seattle
Good luck with that! You can talk about it for a millennium, but Christian racism is imbedded in all art forms. The Spanish, the Italian, the English and the Germans have led this tragedy for centuries. You see this misogyny, homophobia, xenophobia and racism in every religious painting since the dawn of Christianity.
Hebrews 6:1-6
That’s why if one CLAIMS to be “Christian” it’s not following a church or being tribal. It’s FOLLOWING JESUS.
All this fake faith and hypocrisy is nothing but that FAKE & HYPOCRITICAL. 🔥
If slavery and Jim Crow weren't as bad as they say, why are these issues so painful for the white church to discuss?
Why play into the politics of white haters?
This was so insightful. I am not sure how this arrived in my suggestions, but I am grateful.
Lets be clear when you "invite black men" into the fold its on condition. The conditions are that we black men validate the stereotypes and negative things that have been associated to us. Black men and women who have families law abiding citizens married etc...are ignored if you arent conservative.
Thank you for this post, I really believe that we still have a long way to go. I think things was getting a be little better before Trump, he gave permission to everyone to be racist.
what are you even talking about?
Its very simple and simply self explanatory. One might call it succinct
@@tonyamartin1425 The truth
Which is why I wonder why any black people would want to fellowship with them?
This is a must hear for Evangelicals who want to understand the difference between liberal and conservative interpretations of "Christianity." Are you following Jesus or John Wayne?
I think they forgot who john wayne was so now they worship Trump
they're following john wanye, yeah that racist C/unt
Listen to this will help you understand why liberal denominations are dying.
@@Logiconfire if all denominations died we'd all be better off
@@petermeichan3160Secular Humanists are the worst.
She is 100% correct. As a Christian who happens to be black I can identify with her words. I’ve tried to school some of my white evangelicals about the things she is saying. For the life of me I couldn’t see how a Christian could vote for some of the political candidates they vote for.
maybe it is because the liberal agenda is satanic? just a guess.
@@zstork tell you, you are lost and blind.
Seminary made me hate Christianity as a system
@@chgosatrap right but if you went to a restaurant and i gave you a plate of dirt you would say all restaurants are horrible. It is not all restaurants it is the one that gave you dirt that is horrible. Try a non-denominational church and remember everyone you see is as broken as you are some even more. Love them anyway.
Typically they are one issue voters “abortion”
It’s so nice to see some sane voices in Christianity. Keep up the good work.
It's time to start blaming those forces behind the strange GOP agenda. That would be the Protestant Church and their Evangelical loudmouths along with the Fellowship Foundation and especially their enablers (certain corporate wealth that feels fascism is a better match for their financial aspirations). People should also remember that the Protestant vote played a big part in getting Hitler elected in 1933.
Where? There is no sanity with people who wholeheartedly believe fairy tales are real.
lol, sane would be admitting reality, instead of ficticious authoritarian invisible leader.
@@standingalone001You have to hope you are correct. I prefer to admit I don’t know.
@@marilynvallance Im sorry but the Christian fairy tale is not real & that is 100% certain.
“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”
~Barry Goldwater
A very old quote, and still so true!
Not even Jesus was interested in changing politics. The Kingdom of God is something else - so sad most don’t see this today.
@@idjles It is sad, however I take some issue with your assertion about Jesus and the “good book”, since these RW Christo-Fascists have PLENTY of material in there to draw from.
Religion and Politics have been intermingling for millennia (Emp. Constantine's "conversion"), it was our secular LIBERAL democracy that was supposed to mitigate that tendency. When the GOP decided to “take God’s side” as it were on "morality issues", this destination was inevitable. They did this because they could, just as Muslim extremists or Jewish extremists do.
IF GOP voters had not fallen so hard for these moronic “Wedge Issues” (abortion/gay rights) and IF it didn’t continually pay off for RW leaders like Trump, we wouldn’t be having these problems and THEY (Conservative Republicans) wouldn’t be able to employ their patented “Christian Persecution Complex” as GASLIGHTING over how they are destroying that C&S wall that protects our democracy.
Coming from Barry Goldwater, not exactly a blithering liberal, this is an especially sobering statement.
Barry Goldwater, was a controversial figure in his day especially when it cam to his belief on the civil rights Bill and what the constitution said. Weather you believe in him or not, I admire his stance on separation of state from religion, Gay rights and Abortion. He stuck to his principal’s.
fantastic. cant tell you how good it feels to hear someone articulate something that seems so obvious
I was 22 in 1993 when I met a beautiful young black woman. She was attracted to me, but I wasn't attracted to black women. I hurt her emotionally, and I know I missed an opportunity for a lifetime of love with her due to my racism. I believed that because I didn't own slaves or use the N word that I was not racist. I was wrong. God has shown me the truth about myself, and He is still working on me. I've learned that those of us who want to move closer to God will, like His prophets, see the ugliness in our character. I must keep moving toward HIm, though, and learn to not run from pain nor shame. It is painful to see ourselves as we really are, but when I see that Jesus doesn't condemn me and bids me, "Go, and sin no more," I find the freedom that His love gives me. I then exclaim, "Here am I, send me!"
Duude are you serious right now!!!?????? Seriously???? If you grew up with both parents and your mother was white and you loved your mother why wouldn't you want to be married to someone like your mother. Someone who looks similar to her acts like her. Muhammad Ali said I want to have babies that look like me, whats wrong with that??? Its not racism!!!! Its called tribalism. Black males from Africa(a tribal nation) want their daughters to be married to someone from their tribe. Why pray tell is that wrong??? Im a black woman married to a white man I picked the best man for the damn job, I should hope you did the same. I hope u picked the best woman for the job. So now are you going to divorce your wife because you chose whilst being racist??? What sense does that make Clayton Bigsby???? Lets be clear God is in charge of choosing our wife/husband. Its not about love its about our duty as Christians love comes much much later.
Bless you, bro. Keep movin'.
Na. Marrying someone you're not attracted to is not a good idea.
@@markstuber4731 You missed his point, Mark. He wasn’t attracted to her because of his racist programming. Had he not been taught to shun others because of “colors of skin,” not a good determinant for judgement, he might have had a great relationship with her.
You weren’t attracted to her but are now crying about not marrying her? We are at the point that not being attracted to someone who happens to be black makes one a racist.
Can you say brainwashed?
When we repent the land will be healed. Good job, sister in Christ.
Evangelicals would spit on Jesus and call him a Socialist today.
Leftists would crucify Jesus for affirming the biblical nature of marriage.
@@keithwilson6060 The same Bible says that women are property of the man and the job of a women is to please the man. As far as children go and how important the were to your biblical god read the bible and tell me how many times your god ordered every child killed; What Jesus said is that what happens between two people is between those two people and if you have ever sinned to leave it alone and mind your own business. I don't think that the left would argue with that.
This was a breath of fresh air. It amazes me how many evangelicals are so impassioned when it comes to CRT which they just discovered but silent or supportive of statues and flags honoring racist individuals. They’ll also ignore the blue, eyed, blonde hair, white Jesus posted in their Church. If they’d put themselves in their brothers shoes they would better understand how this is demoralizing and damaging the true Church. These are the systemic issues they are too blind to see. We need to keep praying for the Church.
Speak !!! Well said...👊👌👍🙌👏
I laughed at your comment "These are the systemic issues they are too blind to see." LMAO The idea that they are "too blind to see" is an EXCUSE people use so they don't have to solve the problem of racism. If we admit that racist leaders of these church organization are ACTIVELY working to maintain systemic white supremacy, then we don't have any excuse to let them continue it. One of the most used EXCUSES people use that allows systemic racism to continue is the idea that we need to EDUCATE them on the racist effects of their policies. LMAO Racists already know the racist effects of their policies - in fact, white supremacy is the point of the policies.
The FIRST STEP to ending systemic racism is to understand that RACISTS ARE NOT REASONABLE PEOPLE AND YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE WITH RACISTS! As long as we believe that we can reason with racists, systemic racism will never end!
They've not actually "discovered Critical Race Theory." They've swallowed what a right-wing pundit (Chris Ruffo) has told them Critical Race Theory is to whip them into a panic but they still have no real idea what the alarmingly simple & accurate theory actually posits.
No they are not blind. It's to keep the masses in place. They see there ways and choose not to change. But these folks come from the same bloodline that ate their chicken, drinked their juice and bragged about their mashed potato salad. While they set fire, underneath the black teen boy they watched struggle for life.
As they strung the rope around his neck and laughed.
While calling those innocent children they just hung n..gga! Our Ancestors have risen, screaming for the world to hear beyond the grave. 💯
So you have issues with the Confederate flag and the people who wear/support it
Do you have issues with the flag of Ghana?? You recognize that flag right?? It's the one that black people wear on the clinch fist T shirts and the little pillbox hats.
What you probably don't recognize is the fact that the CITIZENS of Ghana sold more people into slavery than any other country on this planet. But of course, you love that flag because it symbolizes your heritage which you are so proud if.
Amazed to see the brainwashing is still working.
I didn’t grow up in the church, I came to Jesus in utter brokenness and began to read the Bible… All of this seemed very obvious to me coming from that standpoint. There was a clear dissonance between what I was reading and hearing from God, and what the mainstream church was teaching. That was 17 years ago, nothing has changed, in fact, after the last 5 years it has gotten much worse. I don’t know how anyone can read the Bible and think what the church is doing politically, is God’s will in any way.
Amen 🙏🏽
God bless this Lady. I'm so glad to see some truth being told.
Amen!
God don't like ugly
You both are clueless. The truth is people of color built the farms, raised your children, and built the infrastructure of the US. But we cannot share in it equally as you. But when you need help it’s your neighbors of color that help you before your white neighbors. I will pray for you.
Get a clue the truth is history is not just yours it belongs to all of us who have made America Great. And Christopher Columbus did not discover America. There were people here already.
That’s CRT.
I was hesitant to scroll down and read the comments, because I was expecting to read some nasty stuff. It was pleasantly surprising to read all of the positive remarks to a speech that I know is not easy for many out there to hear. It is important, no, it's crucial for white Americans, especially evangelicals, to hear these points of view, difficult as it may be.
We have not allowed black America to heal yet, and in doing so we further harm ourselves. We need to understand that the black experience in America is very different from the white experience in America, and once we all learn this fact we can begin to make the necessary changes to heal the systemic racial divide. Evangelicals have the numbers and the ability to get this going, you just need to have the desire and the yearning to see it happen.
In order to heal, there must be a recording. You must Amit wrong. America has never made amend, nor apologize. Reparation
While i dont particularly agree with evangelicals from a religious point of view to hold them responsible for our countries woes and to call them racist and there men full of toxic masculinity sounds like alot of the other books out there being circulated today that take a bunch of buzz words make a salad and feed it too people who want to hate on another group of people. The black community isn't being repressed by white evangelicals .It is not white evangelicals going into their communities and turning them into war zones and that issue isn't getting fixed untill it's addressed and you quit blaming it on people who have no control over it.
Unfortunately, there will NEVER be reparations given to Blacks in this country. Jewish people even to this day continue to get reparations for atrocities during a 3-5 yr period. Blacks can’t get it for 400 years for abuse, death, murder, striped of self, culture, language, mis-education, etc. etc.
@@TouchedByTruth Black Lives matters got close to 100 million dollors .How much of that money went into your communities? How do you envision getting reparations on a community lvl or individual lvl?. You do realize most white people living in america today ancestors did not own slaves .The govt is currently printing money at an unprecedented rate leading us to run away inflation wont be long and it wont matter if your black white brown or purple we wont be able to afford a loaf of bread and Israel will throw us under the bus and go to the yaun . This is all by design they are purposeley breaking the old system to bring in the new .You think you got it bad now?
You are willing to admit what many white people, believers or not, won't. That we have to share this country/world and that they cannot/shouldn't control everything. Buffalo is a cruel, extreme example of the mindset that exists in the evangelical world. That young man embraced the thought that we black people were going to replace/erase him and he'd have to be subject to lesser people.
I graduated from Baylor in 1993, and my experience of the campus was extreme racial segregation and cultural sexism. All while educating some of the region and country’s best doctors, biomedical researchers and para-medical researchers. I was there when the regents dissented from the Baptist General Convention of Texas, and my understanding was that the separation was abut preserving the integrity of the school’s medical education. On one hand, I’m surprised to see the university platform Du Mez. I think it’s really noteworthy that the seminary engage in these discussions. At the same time, I know that the Southern Baptist Convention went after Russell Moore when he resisted Trump’s white grievance rhetoric and postures.
White supremacy has poisoned the church too long. It’s still hurting Christians today. Enough. Repent. Confess. Reform.
Yes They did. And kudos to Rev Moore for holding his ground.
Simple answer do not believe in any Sky Gods walkaway and do not look back its called freedom .
Be careful. There is an undertone of Marxism in CRT and feminist theory. It focuses on the class struggle. Identify different classes. Look at which members of the class have advantages. Then, blame differences between classes on systemic racism. Redefine "violence" to include "cultural violence." Advantage is equated with systemic violence. Please note. Marxism is rooted in atheism, which is why it is ironic that Baylor, a Christian institution, would promote a theory rooted in Marxism.
@@thomasallen6285 All lies. White supremacy was started by white people and Critical Race Theory is the study of the building of this nation and how whites came to power to rule over everyone else. CRT calls Slavery what it is and points out the brutality and cruelty of WS. It has nothing to do with marxism. Stop lying spreading fear.
@@earlinebeaman684 Read a history book, like Allister Cooke's America. The story of America is about a people who escaped from a hopeless lite in the slums of London, who had no land of their own, who lived hand to mouth, who were perpetually in debt, or were persecuted because they wanted to follow the Bible instead of the dictates of the State Church. They came for freedom. Some of them were massacred by the native Americans. Some made peace with the native Americans and had productive trading relationships. They endured poverty, hunger, starvation, and disease. Some early colonies failed. They didn't come to dominate and oppress. They came because they wanted freedom to enjoy the fruits of their labor, to worship, or to lead Godly lives. Yes there were oppressors among them, but to the largest extent, they just wanted to push the plow and feed their families, and make no mistake, the plowboys and the dirt farmers vastly outnumbered the slave masters. This modern day myth of white male supremacy ignores the actual facts of history. As far as America's rise to an economic power, it didn't happen because of white male supremacy. It happened because America had a legal system that rewarded people for technical genius and innovation. Mass production and labor saving devices were invented, not to oppress labor, but to free labor from its tedium. The whole point of mass production was so that more units could be sold at a lower cost for the benefit of a larger number of people, and the profits could be shared among the workers who would otherwise be stuck with low wages. Critical Race Theory has Marxist roots and is little more than a retelling of Liberation Theology. It is rooted in the class warfare espoused by Marx. It is the idea that from time immemorial, there is a struggle between the oppressor and the oppressed. And look at the revolutions we've had to elevate the oppressed class above the oppressors. Think of revolutionary France. That revolution devolved into chaos. Think of the Russian revolution. It devolved into a struggle between the Trotskyites and the Leninists. Look at Russia today. Look at the socialist dream in Venezuela and Nicaragua. Look at what happened when the socialist dream launched a Hitler, a Castro, a Mao, or a Joseph Stalin. American was about individual freedom-not domination and oppression.
The U.S. has done of great job at normalizing religious psychosis, & even sociopathic behavior for that matter.
It maintains their wealth & power.
Powerful words
What is our relationship with truth?
I’m Jewish, so I come at this from a slightly different angle, but everything in this lecture rings true. I wish the lecture had been longer and in more detail. I guess I’ll have to read. I’ll say one thing: the vehemence of the anti-“CRT” (in quotes because teaching kids about racism and slavery is NOT teaching CRT) movement illustrates how much this really, really is about race.
I agree, teaching kids about slavery and racism is history. CRT is a political doctrine that has no business in schools.
I'm an Irish Jew (therefore, Sephardic) and it rings true for me, too! I'm trying to figure out how to cut it to make it sharable. How would you make it longer?
rftulie....I'm sure 100 that if the Republican came on strong for not teaching or mentioning the Holocaust in schools anymore the Jewish community will come out in full force....instead of fighting against the republican party 80% of Jews voted Republican and in full support of Trump....any shame in that my so call Jewish brother....
As I understand it Critical Race Theory (or CRT) is a legal theory taught in university detailing how the law has worked to further entrench racism (& indeed other forms of ism like sexism & ableism) in society at large.
Like your voting laws in some states. Despite passage of the 15th and 19th Amendments many people of colour and women of all colours are still legally denied the right to vote based on other disqualifiers - such as not being able to pay a poll tax.
Teaching about racism and slavery teaches a side of history some white folk don't want acknowledge to begin with. Hence lumping such teaching in with CRT taught only in university.
We have similar issues here in Australia - Indigenous history just isn't taught - with the exception of universities. Despite our Prime Minister officially apologising to Indigenous Australians for the genocidal policies of the Stolen Generations.
What has happened is some white blokes want more than what they're entitled to and not suffer any consequences.
@@bethdumont9020 Yeah, you pretty much understand CRT a hell of a lot better than 99% of Americans who are 'against it' and it has NEVER been taught in public schools, ever. That's what's so crazy. (The only reason I don't like CRT is that I shy away from any theory that's so overtly reductive, but that's another issue. haha)
Essentially, racist people want to BE racist without having to look in the mirror or have their kids see them for who they really are.
It's too bad. This could have been such a rich country in many ways if it wasn't for that continuing legacy.
This lady is so great she has been interviewed by prominent atheists. I’m a former Christian and now an atheist and she makes sense. I have read most of the Bible and it’s weird how most evangelicals don’t know the Bible at all. One told me he didn’t read the Bible. Shocking but not surprising.
That explains a lot…
It's become clear to me that to most fundigelicals, Christianity is little but another way to divide the 'us' from the 'them'.
My parents had me read the whole Bible and I guess I’m glad for that. Even as an atheist, I’ll have my kid read a lot of the Bible, even the bad parts. (Well not the rape and all that until they’re old enough). But I’ll let them find their own conclusions I guess
Could not agree more!
I pray you can read more of the bible where the holy spirit might convict your heart and you come back to a relationship with Christ. Paul's conversion still blows me away that he could be killing Christians and ends up writing a good portion of the new testament. May God bless you!
Here are some facts: Jesus was born on the continent of Africa ( look at a map!) Jesus was born not white, but brown - He was not European, you see. So your blue-eyed, blond haired 'Jesus' is more to do with your idolatry (1st and 2nd Commandments) than reality!
The Europeans were the Greeks and the Romans ( Present day Israel have a lot of Europeans - definitely not 2000 years ago!)
How then can a racist, who hate black and brown people - love Jesus?!
Frankly, colour never mattered to Jesus - He loves His creation (Genesis 1; John 1; Colossians 1)
Who are you worshipping if you are hateful?!
I can't even tell you how many "Christians" I have had praying for my soul after I pointed out this very thing to them. My Mom had some guy yell at her that "God was an American" lol... okay then. I don't attend church or subscribe to any particular religion anymore because of this & several other hypocrisies that I just could not continue to ignore & when I tried to ask questions about them or have any sort of discussion about it, I was basically told that my faith was flawed because apparently having faith means you are not to question anything. I got tired of going to church & coming out feeling worse than I did when I went in & decided i would just keep my relationship with God private. My in-laws are all preachers so I still get in trouble a lot but that's ok. I appreciate you for making this point & keeping it real. Blessings ❤️
@@lightnindawn7710 thank you for sharing that " God was an American!"
I do love a good laugh.
For the record Christopher Columbus wrote about the Indeginous People
Translation : "they live with God" en dios. Referring to the practice of seeing the sacrid in all things.
You can thank Michaelangelo for that. It really messed those folks up.
@@jameshighsmith2184
Christ was originally painted as Black in Europe, (Rome), but the powers that be demanded that he be portrayed as white.
Picture it… “white Christians” bowing and praying to a Black Jesus🫤😏
I know all the names and groups she mentioned. As a blk man I have a long history with the rcsm of whi evangelicals.(I went wherever the holy spirit was, I couldn't get enough) I was even turn off to God because of their bs. It was God who showed me "not to judge Jesus based on man but his word. And Jesus IS my word." And i believed his word, the word whi evangelicals said that I should read, study and meditate on. But it was in opposition to the words they spoke and the actions they did. After that I could separate their bs from Jesus. After alllllllll these years, it is so good to hear from a whi woman who wants us to be known by our love rather than by our hate.
I’m glad you’re in a good place. I can’t imagine your experience. I’ve never understood white evangelical culture, since it seems so opposite to everything Jesus said in the Bible. Jesus was about helping the downtrodden, but they’re about treading all over everyone else.
There are many of us 🥰❤️🩹
Oh my!!Typical blq refusing to take the blinders off regarding who our true enemies are.Instead of seeking to set yourself apart from that same nation of people who can't stand u,as the scriptures command of u to do,here you're at looking for acceptance and validation from one of them,rather than accepting the truth for what it is,and keeping them at bay from us by any means.😒🙄
Wow! Thank you, Dr. DuMez. I am very grateful for your work. It is valuable for the whole Church, not just Evangelicals.
My father and stepmother are victims of the Evangelical church’s ignorance and bigotry. It instills in them the worst, most hateful opinions I can imagine. IMO they worship what would be the devil if he existed
In many early Christian sects and again during the Middle Ages groups like the Gnostics, Bogomils and the Cathars did see Yahowah, the God of creation, as the devil and that Jesus came to “open our eyes” and liberate us through enlightenment. Unfortunately their message was suppressed by the types of Christianity depicted in the video.
@@Iknowknow112 god, devil are both imaginary.
Glad none of them do
@@robinhood20253 Peoples’ beliefs have real consequences especially when people are absolutely sure they’re true. Not very long ago both racism and sexism were grounded in science (and in some quarters still are!). While I’ve never seen direct evidence of evil entities I’ve learned over a lifetime that it’s foolish to be over confident when making any assertions.
@@Iknowknow112 I agree, .
She is a ray of sunshine through the dark cloud of Christianity.
What a great talk. Glad I found this. This is a conversation we should all have.
I will debate this with you if you want to have a conversation. There is several issues i have with it.Top and formost her incessant use of buzzwords and alluding that all evangelicals are racist .I do not agree with evangelicals on many points but i feel she has taken an easy target whipped up a bowl of tossed word salad and fed it to a bunch of people who want to believe the people they disagree with are racist.
Christian Theology of Ham, African people, being cursed to be a perpetual servant to his brothers to justify the Trans-Atlantic Slavery and wickedly evil injustice against indigenous peoples throughout the world clearly is not racist but is a means to justify a person’s socio-economic politics.
@@enyahyeysrael9584 I am not an evangelical I dont believe in a pre trib rapture or alot of their other doctrines .the issue i am having here is she is using a broad brush to paint a whole group of people. If you are watching current events both political culturally and geo magnetically you will see we are in that season and quite possibly rapidly approaching the times of trouble. Do you think the most high cares what color our skin is or is he more concerned with what color our heart is ?
Like a real paint brush, the strokes cover a wide swath, but the edges are less opaque. That is how “painting with a broad brush” works. It is true that most people act certain ways, and there are outliers on the edges who do not. What is “word salad” in the context of what they were discussing? Evangelical churches are huge, influential organizations that have direct access to millions of Americans each Sunday, and often on other nights of the week. One funny thing I notice at large evangelical churches near me, is how fast the patrons race out of church in their cars, cutting off other drivers, to get out as quick as possible. Perhaps, so they may get to their favorite breakfast spot before everyone else, I don’t know, but I think about what they must’ve learned that day, that they then got in their car, and immediately started driving like a maniac. Many evangelical people I know, may not be openly racist, using derogatory language to describe others openly, but they are definitely racist, and definitely believe in a weird American patriotism that is oddly masculine and brute, sort of like the guys who killed Jesus. I wonder, has it always been this way? Like, those people who long ago, went to that large drive in church, pastored by that famous dead guy who had near unfettered access to US Presidents for decades, did they believe the same things they believe now? Only, now we know it more because of social media? And, like everything else, has it gotten more extreme over the years? That happens to everything. Metallica was fringe music, then it became mainstream. Conspiracy theories have been fringe and are now mainstream thoughts. Introducing ideas to larger audiences over time will do that. It certainly is interesting that the millions of Americans who identify as evangelicals believe many of these things. They would probably kill Jesus if he somehow came back.
Very interesting lesson. First time in a long time I've seen an actual challenge in the church to improve relationships and not just go after personal prosperity.
Thank you my sister. And no racism does not shock or surprise us. We know that it exist in every fabric of life in our great country..even in the church. But it is also very encouraging for me to hear white brothers and sisters like yourself speak of love for all of GODS children, regardless of race or nationality. Although we have a long way to go, it is still very encouraging for when l see 1000's of our white brothers and sisters across our great nation marching along side of us peacefully protesting racial injustices. Listening to you has definitely made my day and has given me hope for the future of all of our children. Thank you so much my sister and may continue to GOD bless you and your entire family.
There's nothing great about the united states'
Wyts are not our brothers and sisters.Viewing them as such,despite them showing us time and time again how much they can't stand us,is what's keeping us in the condition we are presently in.Read the scriptures again.U love our enemy oppressors too much.😒
Well you'd better hurry and get saved this world won't last much longer before the 2nd coming. When He comes the 2nd time He's not coming to save anyone.
@@earlinebeaman684 Good grief. Get ahold of your superior self.
It always has a calming effect on my anxious heart when I listen to a fellow Christian brother or sister (from across the racial isle) speak with truth, clarity and without fear, about something so obvious. There’s a type of madness that is specific to the USA that has infected “Evangelicals” and other w Christians. The Christianity they espouse is suspect and compromised because of their unwillingness to practice the whole gospel. This inevitably involves public and copious repentance and repair. I wonder also, Will Christ return before they are able to humble themselves and turn away from the chains of pride, partiality and mammon? The descendants of the previously enslaved have become a stumbling block.
I learned what I needed to learn as a little kid when I saw that white churches would not let MLK worship with them.
Thank you so much for putting this together. I'm proud and blessed to see how you are leading this much needed conversation. Thank you.
Kristin Du Mez, hearing your lecture confirmed what I have learned about Evangelicals since the 2016 election. Your speech connected so many dots for me. I believe that in the near future, my voice will be one among those who can see Evangelicals leaders embedded with the white supremacist. I am moved to tears. Thank you for giving this lesson in American History. May the bless you and keep you safe from the snares of the satan. Love and Blessings! ( I just ordered your book, "Jesus and John Wayne". )
A powerful, analytical and comprehensive study of Christianity in the western world i.e. our USA.
In the early 00's I was at my then-husband's white evangelical church, when I tried to talk to them about how hurtful their language was, their racism against non-whites they were so dense and unable to hear I stopped going. about 10 years later I ran into the pastor and his wife at a community event. Thinking that they had plenty of time to consider my point of view I was willing to talk to them, but the wife was still so angry she refused to acknowledge me. The husband smiled nervously but then followed his wife's lead and ignored me. Oh well
What we’re dealing with here is an old old wicked spirit related to manifest destiny in a way, as well as fear. I just pray for
These folk and ask the Holy Spirit to open their eyes and give them experiences that will open up the doors of change…….. and look at this book/ video! I also pray down fear and all it’s cousins. Love never fails
The thing is they would never consider themselves racist. I am an Asian woman married to a white man, had similar experience with my husband’s family church. We tried the Methodist church that the family have attended for generations when we moved back to the area with 90% white people in the Midwest, it’s enough for me to quit associating with an institution for last 15 years.
It's called unforgiveness! Jesus died so we don't have to die. We die because of our evil, which we spend our time covering up and renaming.
If God's can forgive, then why not us?
@@altonbrek are you suggesting I need to forgive them for their crappy behavior? Because I feel I have moved on, and have no feelings regarding them. I was merely making the observation that they remain so uncomfortable around me they can't handle saying hello or shaking my hand
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 is the reason Israelites are not liked in this country. Listen to the bible not man and a false narrative from Christianity which we never practiced before going into our captivity in America Deuteronomy 28:68. All church traditions come from Europe not Africa, you can't trace any denomination back to Africa.✌🏿
This gives me hope for humanity.
I don't know how many people were in actual attendence , but the seemingly small numbers really suggests that separating the evangelical movement from it's racism is probably a lost cause and that evangelicals that don't hold those particular views had best just break off and begin anew, because not acknowedging this problem only makes them complicit.
The foundation of Christianity is racism: Look at its history… worldwide genocide of indigenous peoples, theft of land masses and their resources, world domination, including in the religion of Christianity as well as the Trans-Atlantic Slavery, Colonialism & modern day lynchings via police brutality.
This probably calls for a marketing genius. This event strikes me as a workshop of intellectuals. (I've been to them on various topics.) The content would put the general populace to sleep. I find this speaker highly persuasive, but so many people want a fiery orator at a mass rally, and maybe some responsive shouting with the audience.
Well, we are also in a global pandemic and they are probably also using physical distancing
@@What_Makes_Climate_Tick true. We're living in a moment where the likes of Mike Lindell, who could almost be defined by his weird spiritual and religious narcissism, excites evangelicals.
These women help me understand the bad feeling in my gut when I read Glenn Beck's the Christmas sweater (my mother had a copy and I was morbidly curious) and when I listen to Mike Lindell. It's clear that these very public Christians have looked into the gospel message and see only themselves reflected back. And they see is profoundly theologically immature. But this is who has captured the imagination of evangelicals. If this is nothing else, it is a testament to just how superficial the theology offered from the American church has become.
@@allison_in_canada although they haven't been distancing in their churches, restaurants neighborhoods, vacations for over a year and a half
Thank you for writing about this topic, so present in this country these days, hopefully we'll learn something.
I am glad I came across this video. I have been struggling with my faith due to the enbracement that evangelicals and some Christians have for racism and hate that have been displayed towards others. I'm trying to hold on but it is hard. To God be the glory.
Veronica White you have to find another church. Fortunately this day and age you can visit online church while you wait on the Lord to place you in the right ministry. Pastor Michael Fletcher of Manna.Church is a great place to visit online
Veronica, also check out Rev. Ed Trevors on YT. He is a very inclusive person! I agree with Roman - seek elsewhere!
Whatever you value, you can find a Christian church that matches those values. Just get out. No one deserves toxic people in their life.
Have an unshakeable, personal relationship with God, like Jesus had. That's the important thing. God is Love, if you associate with hateful people you have lost your way.
@@mickymiller6130 I understand what you mean by your last sentence. It’s best to have people around you that are positive, and loving, but it’s a bit too exclusive and simplistic. We all have family or workmates that we have to get along with. As much as possible, minimize contact with people who drain your spirit.
Wow! So glad to see this. White Christians are discussing systemic racial injustice. I will look and read some of this material. (Institute for the Healing of Racism, Madison, Wisconsin)
There is absolutely no such thing as a White E.d..o…m….i…..t……e Christian, all the Christians in the Bible are Israelites, not heathen Gentiles.
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Because thinking critically about our own biases and beliefs makes us uncomfortable. So much easier to let Fox "News" tell us how right we are and how stupid those who believe differently are.
So Fox News has become the new Christian prophet?
People should read their Bibles more. Don't depend on flawed people, chasing a buck, to tell you what God's word is saying.
There are false prophets (read 'profit' as in Balaam!)
Right on! Thank you!
Finally, someone with the courage to talk about white racism in the church. I've often felt or believed that if our white Christian community, non-racist, would have stood up for what was right and biblically correct, our country would be in a much better place. I applaud Mrs. Kritn Du Mez for continuing to bring this to light. Thank You!
Big J4, I agree with your commentary there. Just as the leadership of our church is commissioned by Jesus Christ to feed His sheep, so are they commissioned to rally around the great cause of social justice by fostering the goodness of equity inside of the church first, and then secondly, advertising and speaking to, and for such good examples of brotherhood to be exemplified nationally, internationally, and universally.
I have often been shocked to the response I get from white people when I tell them that Jesus was not a white Anglo-Saxon. Jesus, in all probability was an olive-skinned, black curly haired average looking guy. He had very radical ideas, even for our current time, that men and women are equal, that every person was worthy of respect, and that ALL fell short of God's expectations. Sometimes I get the "yeah, I know" response, and then that same person will say "Trump's gonna save America". The people who agree Jesus is middle-eastern, can't see that middle-easterners are the same ethnically as Jesus! Their "Lord and Master" is the same as the Israelis, Palestinians, Turks, and derogatory name-calling of people in that region! I really don't understand what it is in the white European mind that make it think that it is superior in worth and intellect, because the One who came down from heaven, and chose to inhabit the body of a Jewish enslaved man didn't choose a white, privileged entity. In fact, none of the original 12 apostles were white. Or rich. Or free. Jesus knew all about racism. He was under Roman occupation and THEY thought Jews were less than dirt. Don't get me wrong..Jews thought THEMSELVES high..their own neighbors, the Samaritans, were not to be talked to. So how can a true Christian be one if they look at another human and say, "you don't deserve x y or z", when Jesus himself showed love and kindness to ANYONE he met? Even his own Apostle Peter was admonished by God for his racism in who to share the gospel with. The whole point of the vision of the sheet full of animals wasn't just about food. It was about race and class.
Well put.
There are ethiopian Jews meaning Jews who lived in Ethiopia and the lemba. Jews were "black" to very light tanned. You don't t know his colour.
@John Meador he weren't black. He was dark brown. Look up ethiopian Jews they are ANCIENT JEWS
@@cyrilsneer5957 you are absolutely right, I don't know his color. My thinking was based on probability, not certainty. However, the real point is that biblically, we aren't told anything about his looks, other than he was ordinary, average. Why? Because it wasn't his LOOKS that was important, it was his MESSAGE.
@John Meador you are very fortunate then, if you haven't noticed the anglosizing of Jesus in western art. Same goes for Santa. Take a portrait of a black Christ or black Santa into a white evangelical church (one in rural North Carolina comes to my mind...yes I was actually a member at one time), and you'd have been immediately ostracized and labeled a n lover. So, good for you.
Thank you for uploading! As a 51 year old Jew who grew up in a Christian dominated society, this has been obvious for decades. Even as a young child I could see this. While I'm glad ***a few*** Christians have finally taken notice, what the heck took you so long??? This has been open and obvious to any non-white Christian and any non-Christian for ages!
So true.
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More of this, PLEASE
Thank you thank you for sharing this.
My brown coworker attended a white "Christian" church due to him living in the burbs and was politely told that he and his wife were not the right fit. My coworker is an Army vet, doesn't speak a lick of Spanish and is as conservative as they come.
Yep they have co-opted a religion for their own selfish ends. This is why young people are turning away from their brand of Christianity.
It's time to start blaming those forces behind the strange GOP agenda. That would be the Protestant Church and their Evangelical loudmouths along with the Fellowship Foundation and especially their enablers (certain corporate wealth that feels fascism is a better match for their financial aspirations). People should also remember that the Protestant vote played a big part in getting Hitler elected in 1933.
@@pinkcrayon1382 Nah he just got his wake up call. Hopefully he sees them for what they are. Unfortunately i doubt he will. wanting to fit in is a scourge for many people. They just hide behind whatever label is handy for that purpose. Whether they believe or not in good faith.
Yep, self-hate in the Hispanic community is a mother Fooker.
I don't believe it I need proof. There are sooooo many racial hoaxes out there its a crying shame. A black woman told me that a white cashier in Safeway called her the N-word. I live right outside Portland. I called her out on her BS, I was like in the middle Portland!!??? She looked at me and scurried away. The Truth should shut your mouth. Alot of black people lie about these so called racist encounters, why you may ask because it pays, in sympathy and dividends. Its called race hustling.
Speaking facts. She won’t get anywhere
There is a special place in hell for the so-called evangelical movement. They have corrupted the teachings of Christ. One area I hope the speaker will address is the greed and obsession with money of this cult.
I really enjoyed your speech, I started listening with a preconceived notion but you changed my mind… great job.
Thank you. Wonderful speech.
Wonderful talk, very hopeful, look forward to the time when pulpits are no longer used as political platforms.
I believe that as you continue on this premise and journey revelations of more truth will be revealed to you. And I hope that you are not CANCELLED...I am a Black/Native American who happens to be a believer in Biblical Theology ie Christianity...it is refreshing to hear such truth !!!
The bible is not about religion....It's a book written by the Israelites for the Israelites about the Israelites. Black/native indian/Hispanics are the Israelites. Deut 28:15-68
Wow!!! Thank you for the truth. I pray for your protection and continuous obedience by getting the truth to us. It means a lot.
The final "thank you" by a gentleman whose body language belies what he's saying is amazing. She called him out without ever naming him and he knew it. Note his body language with the crossed ankles. Women are taught to cross ankles so no one sees panties when wearing a short skirt. This white supposedly Christian man stands there, thanks the lady presenter and crosses his ankles like he knows he's been found out and has something to hide. Wild! Good presentation by Dr. DuMez.
This popped up as recommended by TH-cam. Glad that I took the time to watch it
Uh oh the QAnon birthers aren't gonna like all this crt
Mouth breathers won’t make it past the intro
@@brianfergus839 same,god
Nah, they will rage quit or just rant, citing the bible
What is the root of CRT? Do you know? I bet you don't know.
@@factsoverfeelings1395
Racism from Caucasians is the root of CRT.
No racism from Caucasians,no CRT.
This is amazing! Truth is refreshing
Very brave woman. Follow her. Hero.
It's hard to talk about many things with most churchgoing Evangelicals. Many have been radicalized. And of course they don't know it.
~ a White woman with bi-racial children and grandchildren
I appreciate this so much. This is what people of color are talking about when they say they are tired of explaining racism to white people, figure it out yourself. I'm a person of color, raised evangelical, around mostly white people. It's difficult to explain to a white person how it feels when some folks are racist to you, both explicitly and implicitly. It's even more difficult to describe watching friends or family be racist against other races that are not yours. Or watching them get racist of your own race because you are in the ingroup and they just seem to forget you are there. I have watched over the years as overtly racist social and policy justifications have morphed into "color-blind" social and policy justifications. If those are your policy positions, you can't just ignore their history. The North remembers. You can't just play a zero-sum game of domination vs subjugation without intellectually justifying it. I do recognize the Right's effort to grapple with race on their own with their CRT campaign. But the spirit of the campaign is not to understand and empathize. It's a campaign to dominate, subjugate, and stay in control. Same with overturning Roe v Wade, dominate and subjugate women in this area once again. Even if your sincerely held belief is that a distinct life starts at conception, the impulse is to dominate and subjugate in a zero-sum outcome.
Look, murder is murder. Period. Enough with the pro abortion nonsense. What are you actually trying to say in your rant?
Yes, but what must be understood about the mindset of a *"Racist"* is that they *'do not'* care about doing what is right or doing what is humane! What matters most to them, is doing what matters most to them and them only! This is called *"Fascism!"*
@@mistahoward9772 You are correct. Murder is murder. I am pro law enforcement, BUT when the good cover up for the bad, because of the “Blue Wall of Silence” it’s sickening. The rotten apples spoil the good.
You're indeed right, it's a game of domination and subjugation!
Case in point, check out the comments below.
It's like people want to erase the rights/views of others (trying to play God).
Then they talk about Christianity. The 'Jesus' they claim to represent gives free choice. He doesn't force anyone to come to Him. It's our choice!
And, He doesn't need anyone to be His representative when all along their intent is to instill their 'will'!!
The hypocrisy is so blatant!! It's these same people who promote 'the importance of life' and when it starts.
Yet, they are SILENT when Kyle Rittenhouse goes on the rampage and kills innocent people!
They're SILENT when a WS goes to an African American church in North Carolina and is embraced with open arms and prayed for, yet turns around and slays the pastor and several congregants.
Ditto for the yte cops who kill innocent Black men/women and they stay SILENT!!
These so-called yte Christians are SILENT with these 'killings'!! SMH!!
Miss us with your form of 'Christianity'!!
I can tell you when Messiah returns, He will tell these same 'Christians' "depart from Me, I NEVER KNEW you"!!💯
@@mistahoward9772Sure, let me clarify. This nation was founded upon a world where women and black people had no political power, and native people were viewed as an obstacle to progress including bounties put on their lives; all of this well into the 20th century. As such, our institutions have these biases built into them. The U.S. was not founded as a Christian nation, it was founded as a secular nation but had mostly Christians in it, and it was they who built our institutions. Examining these biases can be difficult if you've never experienced them. But the thing is, we have all experienced this, it's just a human condition, just not everyone from the same viewpoint. For example, when a white person talks about going somewhere, for instance, a high school, and they are the only white person and the dread they feel. Well, ya, welcome to my world. And being mixed race, when I was born, public opinion was still a majority that my existence was wrong. That's a tough conversation to have if you were on the other side. If you didn't know, it's sort of a meme now, that's been around since social media took off, that people of color are tired of explaining racism to white people. Been doing it for centuries and they still don't get it. Which Southpark did a perfect spoof of in an episode. The point of my previous post is that I see the campaign against CRT, let's not get into the weeds of its definition, as another attempt to reckon with this country's history. But on their own terms in a self-motivated way. I think it's a good thing, even if I see it as remedial and just the same old white grievances politically repurposed. As for Roe, I just think it's immoral to tell someone what medical attention they can choose for their own body. If I believe that for myself, then I sure as hell don't believe it should be in the hands of lawmakers. Roe v Wade was the compromise, now it is going to be a legal wild west if that ruling actually goes through. It was passed as a compromise because there is just no good philosophical foundation to metaphysically determine where a fetus begins or ends with the mother. Saying it is already a human on conception is a metaphysical overstep that I don't think can be logically defended. I hope that clarifies. Sorry that the clarification was longer than the rant lol
GOD BLESS YOU! We love your courage. Keep using your voice. Love you
As a Christian, I've always had questions about this very topic. Thank you.
I know a guy named Jett Cheek. He used to be a UNT jazz student in the 1990's. People involved in jazz are almost invariably liberals. However, this guy became a band director at the local Methodist church and shamefully took on the right-wing world view of white supremacists that usually attend such churches. When Trump became president, I remember running into posts on Cheek's Facebook page, in which he was ridiculing Latinos, talking about them as second-rate human beings, and accusing them of human sacrifice. That's what conservative Christianity is all about - treating one's own inferiority complexes through putting down others, especially those that are different from your in-group. Shame, shame, shame!
The womb of American racism and a good deal of the concept of race and racial hierarchy is WHITE ANGLO SAXON PROTESTANTISM. The Pilgrims were Christian fanatics that had no problem with torture and genocide, after all the Ole Israelites did it! So god must condone it cause it’s in the Good Book. Christian based racism lurks behind a great deal in USA history.
Not true Christianity
This was wonderful.
Absolutely best talk I have listened to. I would consider going to church if I can meet such people.
Wow! That’s is close to my heart. How can we all become colour blind keeping our prejudices aside and seek the truth. It heartbreaking to see only 16 comments. That tells me that most people did not agree. Keep up the great service you are providing to the world community. Thanks
I totally agree with you, but it is not about being colour blind, so much as loving and appreciating all of the beautiful flowers in God's garden.
Well, Judeo-Christianity is an inherently fascist and bigoted belief system. If you step outside the echo chamber, this wouldn’t be hard to see.
No wonder so many Qristians quickly lined up behind Trump.
@@altonbrek I like the way you think!
God is not colour blind.
@@bathos22 and that’s a very philosophical answer
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Thank you for posting! It's great to be able to tune into a fascinating lecture like this from across an ocean.
Loved it! Shared it in Facebook!
Love this lady!!
Let's go back further than this. How can a Christian claim to own another human being.
Spot on!Revelation13:10
thank you Kristin Du Mez for being such a proufound thinker. You made me realize that nothing changes with time with the Evangelical churh. They constantly search for ways to get power and money. The root belives are the same primitive ideas.
Du Mez is a a solid author and I read her book, which expands on this lecture greatly. I was rather stunned to hear her say that she is a Calvanist
I Can’t believe this popped up on my feed.
Not one friend that I have not Black would believe me if I shared this message. But I will AnyWay!!!
I am an atheist who was raised without religion, so my experiences are unlike the majority of atheists in America, who are ex-Christians.
I've long had ongoing debates with ex-Christian atheists about this topic.
Christians are measurably more racist than atheists. I argue that this is a circumstance of history: for a long time it was used to justify slavery, and after the Civil War, to justify racism against African-Americans. More recently, they aligned with political conservatives, who are inherently more racist.
Ex-Christian atheists on the other hand argue that the Bible itself makes people more racist due to the content of the stories (e.g. rationalizing wiping out entire cities or civilizations), that even if the circumstances of American history were different, Christians would still be inherently more racist than atheists.
I must confess: as I get older, I'm starting to agree with them more and my own positions less. Christianity (on average, I acknowledge that there are plenty of Christians far less racist than I am, and certain individual demoninations [e.g. Unitarians] are measurably less racist than atheists) just keeps getting more and racist as time goes on, and most American Christians are not listening to more reasonable Christians like this who are trying to sound alarm bells about where Christianity is going. There does not appear to be any brakes on this particular train, and that thought is terrifying.
Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi claim to be Christians. They're the biggest racist idiots in the world.
It isn't just racist, it's anti-women's progress and anti anyone who doesn't believe the way they do. They believe in a 2000+ year-old story that hasn't evolved.
The stories of the Bible those people talk about are part of the Old Testament which talks of the covenant of the Jews with God. Christians are followers of Christ. Christ brought a new covenant with God, it isn't just for a single people anymore, it's for every single person on Earth. Christianity is anti-racist at its core, but as usual, human beings perverted the message for their own benefit.
I knew a narcissist who sat at the front row seat every Sunday, though he didn’t even believe in god, somehow thought he’s a good person. He would never admit that he’s a racist and xenophobic.
@@lees7340 Was he the minister?
Wow! This was very insightful but not at all surprising. Racism is REAL and sadly not going away now or in the near future. Everything in our country now is based on race and we all need to work towards equal and fair treatment for everyone.
Aerosolized bullshit. I’m of Inuit ancestry and have studied the ubiquitous, tiresome, vocal whyte leftist woke agenda patronizing susceptible black people and converting the U.S.and Europe into a population of whining, hypersensitive neurotics who perpetuate what used to be a problem in the United States and Europe but now pales in comparison to other parts of the world where people of color opress their own, or enslave them.
Ex: The west ended slavery here 200 years ago, yet on the African continent, blacks continue genocide, and enslaving other blacks!
Now, free speech is being threatened, historical revisionism underway, and sexualization of children.
College professors who embrace free speech are demonized, fired, and churches now becoming infected w/ woke agendas.
You would benefit from reading “the diversity delusion” by Heather MacDonald or “the death of Europe” or “attack on the west” or “madness of crowds” by Douglas Murray or practically anything by Thomas‘s Sowell to enlighten yourself to the insanity that is pervading cultures. “Black Snowflakes” is another book specifically addressing you. Open your mind.
Everything in our country has ALWAYS been about race - from its very inception!!💯
@@p.w.7493 Using absolutes, words like “everything” and “always,” to describe one particular, nebulous entity, suggests thought processes that are hyperbolic, presumptuous, and likely, highly biased. You would likely benefit from reading or listening to Thomas Sowell discuss “Race.”
And one certain way to perpetuate the concept, of “Race” and deepening it’s stifling stranglehold on the dumbed-down, over-accommodating West, is to keep using the term frequently in conversation, and allowing it to define who you are. But that’s what’s happening.
No we don't.Us blks need to be seprated from all other nations who naturally despise us,as the scriptures clearly commands us to do.
Thank you 🙏🏾📖😇
I stumbled on this video and I am so glad I did. Christine thank you for that amazing speech calling it what it us. God bless you.
Amended Gospels - "And Jesus said, "Love your neighbor as (long as he looks like) yourself."
She’s got it right.
As an African American male, i must say U GOT GUTS!! Especially the calm articulation in which u delivered this necessary expose’.
The truth shell sat you free well spoken May God Bless you!
VERY WELL SAID !! GREAT PRESENTATION. Also, back in the 1980s' , Jerry Falwell started MORAL MAJORITY. This is the template for Promise Keepers.
Why are people called by skin color and other by national race
Just seeing this today. So proud of you for telling the truth but afraid for your life.
Thanks letting us watch and keep your channel.
she is author “jesus and john Wayne’. Awesome book.
When she said (speaking in the voice of evangelical thought), "'We need to toughen up. We need...'" my next thought was, "We need to irradiate masculine power into our balls with UV lights." 😂 It really has gotten that bad.
You first.
I went to a Baptist Church for school as a young child. What I saw and experienced was that these people don’t worship G-d as much as they worship fearing Satan and hell.
It is very sad.
Thank you for the truth.