Kristin Du Mez...... I LOVE YOU!!!! I am a Black pastor and I have been saying many of the same things you are speaking about for So Many years now! When you speak, I feel as if somebody heard ME! Thank you for you deep extensive study and honest exposure of what's been at the root of American Christianity for so long. Thank God for you and your intelligence and diligence on this subject. Thank you for Standing UP!
Jimmy Carter was the embodiment of a president who was also a man of faith. But he’s held as an example of “weakness” while all of Trump’s obvious moral failings are ignored because he’s “honest”.
Trump is a Hollywood generated image... no different from the president before him. It is the uninvited social engineers in our media who pick our leaders, not the lawful citizens.
Carter is one of the most honest people to ever hold office.... I would also like to observe that modern evangelicalism is not Christianity, in my opinion, but a pseudo-Christian cult.
That's the problem. Most people do "love others as they love themselves". An awful lot of people subconsciously hate themselves, and project it on others.
You've ended up with this perverse post Freudian critique, because you've omitted the premise of "Love they neighbour", which is "Love God" with all your humanity.
I walked away from churches after my mom's death because they were the cause of my mom's death. And then when my Ukrainian cousin came to United States evangelist was sitting next to her she was only 14 years old lost her mom and dad and the Evangelist when he found out she was Ukrainian called her a Nazi and to repent. She asked him are you Christian he said yes. She says we do not have Christians like you and Ukraine. For we love Jesus and love others as our neighbor. We believe in our faith. She told him he is not Christian for his to have love not hate or to be judgmental. She is now living in Canada. She says she does not want to live in United States with Christians like this with this thinking of hating others.
I am so sorry this happened to your family. I hope your cousin is happy in Canada. I, too, will be leaving as soon as I am able. This country is becoming too toxic for comfort.
Thank You Kristin! As a child I attended church on a regular basis until graduating fm High school, then sporadically until retiring about 15 yrs ago. About the time i contemplated becoming a member of a local Baptist church Obama became President. For the most part, the atmosphere seemed quite normal and run of the mill - no females in the clergy or offices, women did the grunt work - cleaning, preparing meals and snacks, etc. Not exactly my ideal, but when in Rome… When Obama became Pres - all bets were off. Snide comments about Obama and his Presidency, railing against Democrats and their unGodly policies were coming from the pulpit. I was asked directly, “How can you be a Dem and call yourself a Christian?”. Mind you I got no blow back from writing a weekly check for the offering, but weirdly ostracized to a diff Sunday School Class and told (not asked) that weekly Bible School classes would be held at my house. Fortunately, I had to fly to the Coast for a bit and upon returning, terminated my relationship with that pastor and his establishment. What i experienced at that Church was nothing like my youth. Instead of the msg of love and kindness as in “love thy neighbor as thy self, it was accusatory, judgmental, and worst of all political! So my lesson from this experience has been - I will never set foot in or support an institution championing a right wing populist agenda masking as a church!
Why is it that when the issue of rascism comes up and a somewhat civil conversation is to be had, blacks are asked to explain it; give their deep thoughts on it; give answers to possibly remedy it... this burden is on blacks and not on the perpetrators.
Evangelicals say they are obeying the word of God and following the example of Jesus. I beg to differ, if Jesus were alive today they'd call him a p****, a commie, an emasculated liberal. There is no way they'd allow him to go into their churches or preach to them. Trump is what they want, a white man who believes women are subservient to men, anyone who follows a different faith is bad and can't be trusted, you crush your enemies. He got into the White House by hating the same people they hate. It was so open, so brazen, they said that he says the things they think but can't say, he is "honest" because he has no filter. In reality, all he did was make it OK to openly be racist and sexist and homophobic. They've given up the pretense, what we see now is who they really are.
@@johnfitzgerald2426 He did that once, it's not like he was some super pissed off badass. He was humble, he was meek, he was everything we should strive to be.
@@Merzui-kg8ds To find out the truth you have to be taught by the Holy Spirit not human beings. Read 1John 2:27 and pray for wisdom. Read the gospels and *STUDY* them.
Uhhh no... Roman Catholicism isn't Christianity... in fact Catholic leaders killed us by the thousands... you might want to research that lol. I mean they did it back in the colosseum, then they did it again during the dark ages. HELLO!? These two things are not the same lol. Wakey, wakey.
@@John-mu2js No it's actually a very misinformed comment that disregards actual history. We had this lil ole thing called the REFORMATION. You might want to look into it. It was kind of important lol. Not to mention Christians for thousands of years have said the Pope is the Earthly seat of the Anti-Christ... idk ANY Christians personally who trust the Vatican and their evil ways. That is a church of satan. It does have saved Christians who are being misled within it's congregation, but the leadership is 100% corrupt from my observation and always has been.
The first sentence in this video needs flushed out a little. Claiming that “As a Christian I think that truth is important.” Do you really think that because you’re a Christian, truth is important. The truth doesn’t care if you’re a Christian. The irony burns. As a Christian you must have faith, which is believing or accepting something without evidence.
@@ewokwarrior2656 , I agree with Ben Franklin. "The way to see by faith is to close the eye of reason." Faith is the same thing as superstition - baseless, groundless delusion. People who have faith don't care about truth at all. Faith and truth are like oil and water. They do not mix.
God made us to believe in our own choices and not by others . If you can't know by now between good and bad or make choices by listening to others then you need to give up your faith . It is only false . 1
@@williamw422 man, when I read Jesus' words, I feel convicted. Have I done enough for the poor? Would I be a good Samaritan? Would I sell my belongings and give them to the poor? ...The twisted thinking of the Evangelicals blows me away.
Years ago, on CSPAN, I saw a conversation between Al Sharpton and a Republican political strategist (or something)...at some point Sharpton said something like 'god said, (insert bible verse)'...I can't remember the verse but it was something about _caring for the needy_ or _it's hard for a rich man to enter heaven_ I just remember it was some quote/verse related to money/wealth...and how that [money/material things] shouldn't be a Christian's priority. Like I said, Al started the comment with 'god said...' The Republican's immediate reply was: "Not my god." When I heard it it always made me wonder what do Conservative Christians really believe...
To get a clue about this read about Rev. Robert Rauschenbush. Rauschenbush basically started the social gospel movement, and did not believe in Biblical inerrancy. There was a backlash against the Social Gospel since then. The backlash was adopted by Republicans who were afraid of the social gospel. But John Kasich a Republican doesn’t buy the mainstream Republican apostasy. The Social Gospel emphasizes one aspect of the Gospel. There are other aspects. It’s not the whole complete Truth. I don‘t expect all traditions to emphasize it. But to ignore it completely takes a great deal of ignorance and mental gymnastics.
@@stanlee2589 And? What does that have to do with a Republican saying he doesn't worship the god of Abraham? This isn't about "wealth" it's about whether Republicans/their voters are being honest with everyone. Are they who they claim to be or are they liars trying to undermine American society.
They believe in money control and submission that's what they believe.they have said and done it to many times for it to be untrue. When a person shows you who they are believe it. Question is how long will you let the lie live I SAY KILL IT.
Christians could probably do more than a baseline 10%-15% giving if a third of their check wasn't taken off the top by the government. They have families to support too. I don't understand the money comments, are you talking about millionaires and billionaires?
It really is noteworthy that fundamental differences in theological interpretations between Evangelical sects aren't necessarily enough to make enemies of others within the overall Evangelical community, but different social/political/economic philosophical orientations are. Not to mention the fact that the social/political/economic stands they take further alienate them from the very people that Jesus, the author of their faith, commissioned them to reach out to.
I don't even like the word Christian anymore. The company I keep now is much kinder and these people are habitually honest for a pleasant change. AA meetings helped me see how being brutally honesty with yourself can get rid of all skeletons and imaginary ghosts if you continue making strides towards living and staying sober. Making many meetings with totally different people having a turn to speak or pass on the group's chosen topic helped me a decade ago. Your HIGHER power turns out to be your inner sober adult you had kept in your trunk stoned, drunk and lied to.
Evangelicals are not Christians. Christians believe in the prophets; peace be upon them. Evangelicals believe in the profit$ and how to get a piece of them.
The white promo in Evangelicalism bit lends some sort of possible explanation to something that has puzzled me since my misspent youth. In Corpus Christi, TX in the early '80s there was a rescue mission with a Mexican-American preacher who at one point in a sermon went on about how God liked and the Devil hated blonde hair and blue eyes. When this preacher was Mexican-American with Aztec physical features. It kind of creeped me out that he seemed to regard me in a more positive light simply because I had yellow-blonde hair at the time and blue to blue-green eyes. And there I was a 21 year old homeless guy sowing my wild oats in the worst ways possible.
I had a guy from Uganda tell me that people from the West just have better solutions for the problems in Africa than Africans and that god clearly loves the US more, as it is more prosperous. Freaked me out and I ended the friendship after that because that sounded like a crazy person to me.
"Jesus was crucified by a coalition of political-religious conservatives (the Pharisees) and political-religious liberals (the Sadducees), working through the secular government (the Roman Empire). All political parties and systems are a mixed bag of good and evil principles, whereas the kingdom of Christ is composed only of good principles that arise out of God’s indiscriminate love for all people. As a follower of Jesus, therefore, I cannot be loyal to any one political party, but rather must affirm true principles wherever they may be found regardless of political party. I must subscribe to the good principles that are present on the conservative end of the spectrum and to the good principles that are on the liberal end of the spectrum. And that makes me a political freak, or at least a political anomaly, in a world of frenzied political hate." End Quote. [I did not originate these thoughts, nor does anyone actually have any good thoughts. For all GOOD thoughts originate from God in Christ Jesus].
@7:35, God sometimes chooses, God has to choose, God doesn't have no choice to choose imperfect beings." That's blasphemy what this guy said. Saying God has no choice is like saying God is not in control. God can change any person and any heart if He so chooses to.
I went to Calvin and there was a strain of Amway / Reaganism there in the mid 1980s. I can remember coming across a Conservative Digest article in college and thinking that they had little power and influence. Then, I was in Georgia during the Gingrich years in the 1990s. I saw how deluded the North Fulton / East Cobb hedonism was with a Christian facade. For such nice looking communities to drive through (all creature comforts imaginable), the sense of privilege and strong personalities were hard to ignore. I started to worry. None of that compared to this recent toxic strain that evolved from early Fox "News" to Trumpism, years of reinforcement of false narratives, Machiavellian strategies, and the re-victimization of victims. That is, hated of the poor and minorities. If you are not "successful", then you are weak. The Amway / Reaganism system on steroids in a social media age. It's all about power, collective narcissism, and flag worship with the co-opting of Christian belief. They are manipulating willing codependents.
Read "Sex, Power, and Partisanship" by Garcia to really understand the evolutionary biological roots of the authoritarian white Christian nationalists Du Mez's book describes. Garcia's books is one of the most important I've ever read.
God is no respecter of persons. He doesn't hold one race or culture higher or lower like mankind does. To blame one race, one culture, for the troubles of the world is what has been repeated throughout man's history. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Man cannot save himself; Acts 4:12 says about Jesus, "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name given under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."
I cannot answer that, but I think it helps to see it as a "revival" kind of Protestantism. Perhaps beginning with types like Jonathan Edwards in the US (a period called "The Great Awakening,") Strengthened by the formulaic gospel of Billy Graham in the 1950's. Preaching about a fiery hell provided a lot of power over the masses (later used for political purposes) Another influence was REACTIONARY Christianity protesting MODERNITY. Modern theology here is exemplified by movements like the Second Vatican, German Liberal Theology and Liberation Theology (in poor countries). The Evangelicals thought the gospels should NOT be "modernized" or confused with "Godless Socialism" (and therefore objected to caring for the poor through governmental "programs of social uplift" as Martin Luther King called it.) The Soviet Union championed the poor working classes and international Socialism, so the evangelicals then, stood for "the opposite," namely Americanism, Nationalism and Capitalism (they had to shoehorn in Christian verses to make it work) Christianization and politicization of ABORTION (among Protestants) in the 1970's is also part of this Evangelical political movement of today. Note: Here in Norway we tend to separate between "Evangelic" (just normal Protestants) and "Evangelical" (firebrand conservative Christians). I hope that helps ..
If you are a Christian, then read the bible, grapple with what it says - for it does not fit neatly into modern political idealogies - and any party that claims to own it is using religion for its own aims. Recognize the tree by the fruit it produces. If it possesses none of the fruits of the Spirit (charity, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, generosity, gentleness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity), it is not of the Spirit.
@@cattycorner8Whatever. I'm a Christian. I go to church and live in a heavily Christian area. I also leave my house and go other places and live in the real world and am capable of listening to people IRL and observing actual trends and can compare what the media says, versus what talking points I hear people repeating IRL. Here in the US I have heard R's equate themselves with Christianity and Democrats with atheism (and Satan and secret muslims, basically whoever is anti-Christ) since the 80s and it has only grown in recent years. It has helped solidify identity politics with their base but I worry that it is at a great cost because it is turning others away from coming to know Him, because they don't like what's being publicly represented. To that end, what is in the media does matter.
John C Russell......The Germanization of early medieval Christianity ....is a must read for these folks. This is not the first time that Christian faith has been captured by an aggressive hierarchical male culture.
Did your congregation become White Nationalists? I have known many, many Christians and none have been White Nationalists. The truly dangerous, radical white nationalists are in prison and hate the Christian G-d. Most of them these days are pagan.
Only in America would you see a bumper sticker reading "God, Guns, and Guts" displayed as a statement of faith. The "Christian" right twists the words of Christ beyond all recognition, when it mentions them at all. Jesus still weeps.
It is too bad more emphasis in our culture is not made about the distinction between (U. S.) evangelical and mainstream churches. I’m not sure about Catholic churches, but many Protestant main-stream churches offer a good alternative to evangelical churches. They have not had the razzle dazzle of evangelical TV ministers, and their attendance has waned in recent years, but they are much stronger in traditional Christian doctrine and are usually not subject to the John Wayne phenomenon.
Psalms 147:19-20 [19]He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel. [20]He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.
@@kendricbell9454 christianity is a false religion and the gentiles have nherited lies. They know nothing about the bible which was written by Israelites to Israelites.
Does Christianity tell you to ignore the Constitution ? As a Catholic and a Christian I don't believe in forcing God to people who don't believe . God made us to believe in our own choices and not by others . If you can't know by now between good and bad or make choices by listening to others then you need to give up your faith . It is only false .
You contradicted the end with the mid way of telling other's what to believe is cause it takes time to fall in place. Honestly I don't like having to see justice for another and not the original people of America not much ?
Without wanting to be offensive, I really don't like this comment. At least these "crazies" are looking for answers. If they stick with it, there's a chance that they'll develop some sane rationality. That's my hope, anyway, and it's why I participate in these discussions.
stay safe from what? I totally disagree with her but she has every right to say it just as I, as a white male Bible believing Christian has every right to say my beliefs but I feel that as a white male Christian I have much more to fear from the anti white anti Christian media being pushed on America. as I would hope you know, all modern media was produced to INDOCTRINATE not entertain thus the reason most countries have made it mandatory that their citizens own televisions and why things like the OJ Simpson trial etc are televised. the agenda is controlled by freemasonic SCUM such as PUTIN and Zelenskyy are both FREEMASONIC stooges with zoleneskyy being an actor just like Trump, G. Bush Jr, Reagan Clinton was just a cocaine snorting communist with Hillary an adrenochrome drinking satanic witch
It wasn't a DEBATE. A conversation is people talking and listening to each other. noun: a talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged.
The Old Testament is essentially the history of the earliest ancient Israelites from the time they left Ur ( modern day Iraq ) to their settling in Caanan ( modern day Israel/ Palestine ), settling in ancient Egypt and then back to their final conquest and obliteration of the Caananites leading to the formation of ancient Israelite Kingdom
“I venture to point out that both the English and the Indians spring from a common stock, called the Indo-Aryan. … A general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir.” “to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.” Gandhi talking about Blacks.
@@TBOTSS yes ..but there is a larger point. I think all of us, Christians and Non Christians , can follow the main teachings of Christ ( paraphrasing) 1) I and my Father are one 2) Love thy Neighbor like Thyself This is 100% compatible with the core teaching of All faiths ( in their essence)..in that there is a divine spark in all of us ...and we are asked to see that in ourselves and in everyone... That is my religious practice. What else does a man need? If every Christian followed this ..there would no quarell. It is for us to follow Christ ..not drag others along or enforce his teachings .. That is arrogance and assumes that God needs your help.
@@edwardmiessner6502 They sent tons of missionaries .. Most Hindu Intellengentia loved the Teachings of Christ ..but the problem was Hinduism was/is not a Religion but a Religious Framework ... why do you think it has a million Gods? ... You are free to worship whomever you want ..Because it understood that we are worshipping the undefinable in a limited form ... God is bigger than the biggest box you can put him in ... And all names , labels , images and idols are boxes .. they are a representation of God but not God ... just the way ♾️ is a symbol for infinity but not Infinity itself .. you were free to choose your own symbol for infinity .. So the missionaries had nothing new to teach India. Jesus and Christianity fit in 100% with Hinduism as one of its four paths ( the path of love) ... but the missionaries did not see it the same way.
@@TBOTSS and yet he found in the teaching of Christ that Turn your Cheek is a act of courage and defiance .. That powered his non violent movement and inspired a nation of 300 million... Indians won their freedom inspired by Teachings of Christ ...and didn't have to call themselves Christians. Gandhi had plenty of Flaws ..I am student of Gandhi ..but that doesn't detract from amazing insight into God/Religion and how we all can learn from each other.
In the U.S., we essentially have a two party system. When it comes down to the wire, you pick one of the two candidates. Biden was/is such a terrible leader, Trump became the better choice to me. Biden will be replaced by his VP before the next election.
@@Christian-uc2qi You need to read Jesus sermon on the mount and purge your worldview of politics, because you have been corrupted by politics and hate and fear. As long as you continue to follow this path of the Evilgelical, you will end up in Hell with the rest of the False Christian. Behind me Satan!
Preach the gospel to all nations is the command and it was Preached by gospel servants America africa asia and australia Benefited from it Obviously there were abuses against the natives by other elements not Of the church!
Had the faith not been corrupted long ago and at multiple times throughout its history? I guess evangelicals left their mark of corruption as well but to blame them for the corruption of Christianity is at best disingenuous.
Yes , there always has been wolves in sheep’s clothing . Jesus himself warned of it . Why do people not put things in perspective . In this modern age we have to be wise of false prophets . People there is nothing new under the sun . Reading history is great, then people could put balance in this all .
I've never heard of Kristin D. but I do know this, that Christ Jesus is the "Savior of the world." And to bring Christ down to the level of party politics is one of the most diabolical things a Christian can do. Why? Because the Bible is clear in pronouncing that we as Christians have "confessed that were strangers and pilgrims on the earth" and that "our citizenship is in heaven" (Hebrews 11:13-16; Philippians 3:20).
@@JohnJakeWilliam the fact is conservative evangelical Christians have welded politics to their white nationalist extremist ideology. I have been to a church that prayed for the death of Obama, another that sent an email claiming that Obama is a secret ISIS Muslim, and encouraged voters to vote in Oregon primaries for the Dem candidate who would most likely lose in a national election, etc
9:25 going from an educated, truly christian man in the Whitehouse, to Trump... Truly christian? As a christian myself, I find neither president meets my definition of "truly christian", though for different reasons. One doesn't even need to be a religious person to find both presidents completely undesirable. Thomas Sowell, noted economist, non-religious as far as I know, considers Obama and Trump the two worst presidents since WW2, if not since WW1. And for different reasons, of course.
I don't need Christian. All I need is a person of character. Our obsession with Christianity is getting tiresome. I'm a Christian and it makes my stomach turn hearing all this about needing a Christian president. Christians these days show very little ethics or morals. Sadly, you want the very opposite of what the religious right calls God's man. Trump --- God's man. What a damn joke!
There is no supernatural. There are no gods, no demons, no angels, no virgin births, no resurrections from the dead, no e.s.p, no ghosts, no fairies, no witches, no 'enlightened ones', no reincarnations, no miracles, no goddesses, no 'holy' books, no 'holy' cities, no windigos, no 'god's providence', no evil spirits, etc., etc. etc...
Christ Crucified for your sin is the only way to God. You must be born again. Salvation is not a human decision or accomplishment. Salvation is the choice of God. This is absolutely ridiculous. The Church is not an organization. The Church are to he elect of God. There will always be false teachers and false believers until the end.
Yes. But who are true and who are false? Who highlighted this split to the public? A historian or Trump and the Republican party? White Evangelicals or the groups who stand with them like Proud Boys, 3%ERS, White supremacists or both as strange bedfellows? For a political purpose or a Jesus purpose? For the political win or for the winning of souls?
God is opening eyes and open the spirit and revealing himself or what's going on and not just the church but what's going on in the hard the Mind and Spirit what's going on with humanity and where we have fallen short of our relationship and our baby ants and commitment to Christ and where we have became fleshly and where we have became disobedient and like the scripture says did it by own ways instead of following the obedient ways of the Lord and instructions of his word and being knowing the voice of God God submitting to the will of God knowing that if we surrender entirely to God and know that God is the one in control and stop being according to the fleshly desires Like It said In Timothy first John chapter two do not love the world at anything got the world cuz in the world is the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life God never called us to be religious but have a relationship if you go to Amos 5:21 it says God hates religion and your festivals have become a stench to him because you do it for your own benefit in your own desires it ain't to please God it honor God is for your own purpose and he knows the heart and motives of a man because if you go to Hebrews chapter 4 he said God knows the intentions he knows the spirits are sold the being of a man because before we were created before we was placed in the mother's womb he knew was in Star Wars he needed us together when I prefer for when I mothers and fathers came together he placed it in the womb and he knew what we was going to be a man a woman before we came into the room so God knows everything and he know where the spirit before we even came into the room but we need a fleshly body right when we died the flesh going back to the ground and then we're going to be resurrected by the spirit like Jesus was
Why is there somebody introducing the book for the first five minutes when the author SITS RIGHT THERE? I nearly stopped watching because I wanted to see an interview with the author and than got the impression this is just going to be a mediocre book review. Also: This is the most unhinged comment section I have seen in months, what`s up with your listeners?
The truth is right in front of their eyes, but they'd have to believe that we're human in order to see it. So, tough sell. Not that it matters what they believe. It's written.
The earth was given unto the hand of the wicked...thats why they have been able to rule but look at the state of the world in all its chaos and backwardness‼️ It is written and all has been fulfilled and now the countdown begins...I'm incredibly tired of the heathen and gentiles having their way in this demonic, diabolical kingdom
Daniel 4:17 (KJV) This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men. Jeremiah 27:5-11 (KJV) 5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that [are] upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. 6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him. 7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him. 8 And it shall come to pass, [that] the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand. 9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon: 10 For they prophesy a lie unto you, to remove you far from your land; and that I should drive you out, and ye should perish. 11 But the nations that bring their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, and serve him, those will I let remain still in their own land, saith the LORD; and they shall till it, and dwell therein.
Written in January of 1888, AMS: "We also view with grave apprehension the corruption of our politics, and the immorality not only of those who are exalted to high places in the nation, but of the nation itself; but we know that politics cannot be purified nor immorality checked by legal enactment. There is only one remedy for immorality and corruption, and that is the gospel of Jesus Christ."
Bias unscriptural and cherry picked examples the book would not hol up to any real scrutiny from reputable theologians or evangelical why is their never a real debate or anyone who opposes the narrative of this book
Faith is not your debate club. Either believe or do not. Nobody should be twisting your arm to come to salvation. Take it or leave it. It is a free gift.
Steve Beasley, exactly. I’d like to see her debate Jacob Reaume or George Ippolito and see if she can stand head to head with them. I have not read JAJW but I have read about it and one of her claims is that the Evangelicals joined the pro-life movement not to protect the inherent God-given rights of unborn life but to gain autonomy over women’s bodies and choices. People like her ascribe to us the worst of intentions-that we are a bunch of Handmaid Talers. Of course nothing could from the truth. The goal here is not to subjugate women but to help them gain a deeper understanding of the seriousness of this decision-that it’s not just your body anymore when your pregnant-the crippling effects Post Abortion Syndrome can have on the psyche and also that you don’t know what that individual will contribute to the world if you deny him/her the chance to find out. Why would you want that on your conscience for the rest of your life?
Yes he showed the character of being a true Christian with his family and the way he behaved with others. And why should people be judging other people. That's what I don't like about evangelists they're always judging people by the color of their skin but what religion or beliefs they believe in and they're always using the word repent. It really gets on my nerves. They're just a bunch of hypocrites
Did anyone here say the church was racist? If racism was not a problem in evangelical Protestantism, how do you explain the long survival of slavery and segregation, and the enormous efforts it took to challenge them?
Obama could have used his limited authority to save more Americans homes from Foreclosure, instead of "Banks To Big To Fail", but the Antichrist? The number 666 is used to invoke Satan. But Obama doesn't have six letters in each three names: 666. However: Ronald Wilson Reagan does: 666.
The first commandment: You shall worship the LORD your GOD with all your heart, soul, mind and body. You break the first commandment. You have broken all the Commandments!? This is the most important commandment. The first commandment. To all you churches, camps and preachers. Separation from the first Commandment is seperation from the LORD GOD. That only leads you to death and the separation from God. Thats hell.
Not brave, but sad people who feel their education gives them a right to decide for others what is correct. So much self pride here...but they won't see it. Blinded by themselvees
I can only speak for myself being a white, Christian evangelical myself but just know that most others like me held these same views: Most of us didn’t like Trump as a person but viewed ANYONE dogmatically against the media, and the Democrats, as someone to champion. Face it the Republicans are typically weak and spineless The bus recordings were definitely not good and I cringed at hearing Trump talk like he did. But when it came time to vote I knew I would never support anyone on the Democratic ticket especially Hillary. To me, the Democratic Party is the personification of true EVIL….and for that reason I voted for Trump even though he was not a good person either Obama was definitely not viewed as a Christian by me because of his many, many lies! Worst of all, he signed an executive order declaring Gay marriage as the Law…..without taking a vote so the people could chime in. This was Executive overreach! If he allowed the PEOPLE to vote I would have more respect for him. Beth Moore is viewed as a clown-world type of teacher/evangelist, not anyone that had much influence in the Christian world. So is it safe to assume people on the Left have no standards either with hypocrisy to boot? For example, Bill Clinton, adulterer, rapist, and the guy who had sex with a 20 year old intern in the Oval Office is still highly respected, almost hero worshipped by people on the Left?? This is curious indeed Lastly I’ve lived in 3 States and I’m 50 years old yet I almost never encountered white racism whether in the church or not. So out of say 400 white people I’ve know or still know, maybe 2 or 3 were racists. It definitely exists but not as prevalent as this panel says it is. The Bible itself teaches all people are equal in the eyes of God, because He created them all, that is my belief and what most of the Christians I know believe. I love all people from every race and culture!
It's fascinating that you, a white person, claim to have a good gauge on "how racist the world is"......if our society still has white supremacist values, wouldn't it make sense that you'd personally experience the least of it????
This is exactly what you get when you tell people their meaningless opinions matter. I would love to see how this panel handles the racism of Africa or Muslim nations? Or say, Asian Nations? This entire video is a joke
Also a sad statement of the cancer on Evangelicalism who have sold out Christ for an extremist political agenda. Repent before you lose your salvation, or to get it back having already lost it.
Obama is not a Christian lady and this hole conversation is so miss- leading in so many important topics you all make me sick... I will pray in hope your souls are forgiven!
@@mr.horrorchild4094 ... Yet again? Typical inept Trump response. How absurd. You contacted me. I merely pointed out, Mr. Horrorchild(?) your Inappropriate obsession with another male's genitalia?
The Lord Jesus as put forth in the Bible had no illusions of all the problems we are to have, to have gone thru this trial of difference of nationalism just shows me the realism as well, He prayed, the idealism:"...on earth as it is in heaven,,,," killed by the forecasting bad weather --- prophets of God by the Holy Spirit.....i think here are three divisions: Apostolic Catholicism, Roman/Constantinople and the REFORMATION ( popularity of mass availability///)do it yourself//// but do it the best,,,---me I will follow cause im like a dumb ol sheep......eg:( i wanted fame glory the world sex ad infinitum but the WORD shows us JESUS....in turn makes us and makes John Wayne look like a twinky......on down the line...ad infinitum!
@@Viodoxy black people of a specific religious group? No. Black people in general? That’s sort of what this talk is about, how white supremacy is a fundamental part of evangelical history.
@@Viodoxy I mean, seriously… Donald Trump very explicitly blamed the problems of the country on Muslims and Mexicans and white evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for that message. You can’t support explicit racism and prejudice and then just pretend it didn’t happen.
@@pauldaigle2344 exactly you can not give a single example of an evangelical blaming group of people based on the shade of their skin on the problems of the world. Whereas this intire book and video is overtly racist. Let me ask you a question in history when you read about sargon of akkad is it a story of Semitic supremacy?
Welcome to Woke/Progressive Christianity. Which has Very Little to do with Christianity. I 1st ran into this in the early 1980's with Jim Wallis & Sojourners Magazine. Their arguments have not gotten any better in the last 40 years.
I love Reading & I try to Read as much as time allows me, however I never Read a Religious book or Follow any Religion. I have always respected people,respectfully accepted different views & peoples rights to worship their religions. I have never had a Religious Debate or seek to debate but as an observer over of how religious groups use their beliefs/platforms to make a difference ,the MOST DISAPPOINTING let down I have ever seen witnessed & read about the the #EvangelicalChurch when they went ALL-IN for a disgusting human being like Donald J Trump & jumped on #Birtherism #Muslim #TheOther #Black ….Man who are these people ? What happened to their GOSPEL ? Love ? etc. Evangelical exposed themselves for just wanting & interested in ONE THING :POWER AT ALL COST ! Evangelicals are a disgrace & flat out #Racists. I will purchase the Book & Follow the writer .
True, although "light" on a issue is often the best disinfectant. Of course, it is not the intellectuals who are looking for an authoritarian religion to follow, so how do we speak to THOSE "masses" (who often are looking to be deceived) in a way that THEY hear?
What the hell! I am completely confused about what is being said bcaz why are they using the title Evangelical this way of living has absolutely nothing to do with what their talking about! Why they using this word! That is weird 😕
Most American churches don't follow Jesus or actually know what he said or instructed. Followers of Christ today should not follow what Jesus taught the twelve disciples but what he taught Paul only. He was the apostle of the gentiles. Romans 11:13. Acts 22:21. 1. Jesus said, "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 10:5, "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:". 2. Churches teach tithing. But the bible says, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver." 3.They teach baptism as part of or a requirement for conversion. Mark 16:16. However, Acts 16:30, "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.". 4. They don't know about "the Dispensation of grace ". Romans 16:25; Ephesians 3:1-2.
Jesus never met Paul. Paul made everything up based on his own beliefs. The gospels were written AFTER Paul wrote his letters. Jesus never said he was divine or that he was forming a new religion. Christianity remains the worst scourge on the world in human history.
@@indimist Acts 9:3, 26:16, 1 Corinthians 15:8; Galatians 1:1-2. If what you are saying is true then then13 epistles that he wrote should be thrown out. And Peter is a liar based on 2 Peter 15-16. Also, there is no grace to Gentiles. Jesus and the twelve apostles practiced the law. Acts 10;28. And converted gentiles to the law or Judaism, Acts 10:34-35. Only Paul introduces grace without becoming a Jew. Without Paul, Ephesians 2:11-12, would still be true. "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:"
@@tyronegooch5251 Paul was a Jewish fella from Tarsus-a Greco-Roman area. He was a Roman citizen + worked for Rome-initially persecuting Christians. He claimed to be a Pharisee but probably lied. Because he went against Jewish law, which Jesus never did, he probably was not a Pharisee or devoted Jew + romanized. Only about 7 of Paul’s writings have been attributed to him. The others were probably written by others as style, language etc. is different. Paul + early church fathers were anti-Semitic. The things they said about Jesus’ people is horrible + these portions in the gospels should be removed. Paul was a Roman citizen who promoted a personal religion that used Jesus + his movement to undermine the Jewish rebellion + to unite tribes under a single deity within a pagan worldview. Not- Jesus eventually becomes a man-god which is a pagan practice. Then 300 years AFTER Jesus death the trinity was devised. Basically it’s all bunk devised-contrived by those in power. The true followers of Jesus were Jews who never ever said he was divine. Jesus never said he was divine. The gospels were written decades AFTER Jesus died and AFTER Paul laid out his religious belief system. Christianity has been a horrific business-and it is a business. Religious belief does not change bad people into good people- in many cases religious belief makes bad people worse. Putin is a perfect example. As is ISIS or even Nazi Germany which was a VERY Christian country.
@@indimist You have any evidence from the bible for your rant? To the contrary: "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Like 7:29-30, "And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him."
Tyrone several of us really don't care about the details of what specifically separate the various denominations. We'd be happy to let everyone worship in peace but you cannot drag ideas into the public forum that do not serve everyone. Our diverse culture must serve all citizens. This Christian fascism will serve only to divide and destroy.
trump is their lord nd their god who wants the praise and worship of his minions. these people have been baptized with the same anointing or Chaos, Lying, Hatred and Darkness as their leader, trump. wherever he goes, he spreads Chaos and he infects others with his anointing from the abyss. in the beginning Darkness was upon the earth but God said, Let There Be Light (Light Be)! And it was so. In the Name of King Jesus, the One with All Authority, I speak, I proclaim, and it Must be so: In the Name of Jesus, I Bind the Spirit of Chaos over this Nation. You Have No Authority and I declare that you are Powerless and Command that you and your minions Leave Now! I command you to be Quiet Now! Out in the Name of Jesus! Out Now! I speak Peace. Peace Now, in Jesus Name! I command Everything that has been affected by the Spirit of Chaos to be made straight and to be Healed!
Your profile pic alone tells all that you are a part of the problem. United States is not a theocracy, and to get one to do it have to meet overthrow of our Republic. That is what Republicans are wanting to do now, isn’t it? Fortunately for Missourians, Darrell McClanahan will not win any elections.
I have grown up with Baptists and Nazarenes all my life and while I may not have seen eye to eye with them on everything, they are on the whole kind, loving, upstanding, productive citizens you would really want as your neighbors. I have never in my life heard them talk about one race being less a human being than themselves, subjugating women or using the word “patriarchy.” People like Kristen du Mez are either wolves in sheep’s clothing who seek to divide or they’ve been hurt somewhere down the road and never gotten over it so they project their frustrations and bitterness on an entire group by reducing them to a type. Read Romans 16:17-18 and Titus 3:9-11.
I can only guess that you're a defensive white man who interprets any divergent view of the world as an attack and who views racial inclusivity as a deep inconvenience. You probably think white privilege is.a figment of millions of non white people's imaginations who are 'whiney' about being constantly brutalised and dehumanised. And because your world is socialised as white and inoculated from meaningfully engaging these realities (hence your neighbours who you never head speaking about any race as less can only be assumed as white ) you feel deeply affronted by a world view that de-centres your white maleness and yes patriarchy.The idea of co-existing with non white people in their full humanity is thus your offence at this author is so inconvenient and angering. At a guess.
Lucky you. You’ve had a nice experience in a nice neighbourhood. But what a shame that you’re experience of the evangelical movement in the US is so blinkered that you can’t see the truth in what the author has laid out in her thesis.
82% of them voted for Trump and that large group of evangelicals had to turn themselves into moral knots to justify Trump. Individually, they are wonderful; but as a political beast, they are extremely compromised. They are also deeply rooted in white nationalism. It is very evident. It is not all, but 82% is a big group to embrace such a vile man as their political leader. It is those same evangelicals who attack CRT, wants to ban BIPOC's perspective of history, and just can't see Democrats as possibly being Christian. They call them communists. Why did so many white evangelicals attack "black lives matter" without having a clue about what CRT really is, they attacked it. It is not all, but there is an overwhelming mass that is white nationalists and they seriously need to listen to this book! There is a lot of darkness there. The patriarchy comes out with purity culture and women submitting to their husbands and women not being allowed to preach or be leaders in the church. It is more subtle these days, but it is deeply ingrained. It is how SBC kept a database of 200 plus pages which listed all their ministers accused of sexual abuse. That was all kept hidden and the ministers were protected. Not one of them was turned into police. It is not blatant, but that misogyny is deeply ingrained. Just watch what they politically attack.
Barack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia in accordance with the country's laws for their schools and in the faith of his stepfather, prior to moving to Hawaii with his Caucasian grandparents. This is not some birther tall tale about where he was born. The Christian pastor that Barack Obama chose when living as an adult in Chicago was not known for the kind of Christian values many traditional Christians subscribe to. In the first 10 minutes of listening to this, I hear people extrapolating from the flimsiest information and doing the typical mind reading trick of talking about what other people think and want and intend that no one can possibly know. Being an Evangelical Christian does not make you God. Just because a bunch of ideas are attractive and interesting does not make them true. I'm not going to read this book because I've been paying very close attention over the last 6 years and the only divisive language I heard was coming out of the mouths of illiberal liberals and far-left political opponents who sought to increase their power and influence by damaging the ability of Donald Trump and his administration to try something different, which was why he was elected. At the time of the 2016 elections The Establishment had been rejected and the Democrat top candidate was Bernie Sanders who was not even registered as a Democrat. On the other end of the spectrum was Donald Trump who had been registered as a Democrat but who had no political experience and no experience even working for a company that was not his own family's firm oh, so there was a lot rules and norms and ways of doing things of which she had no understanding. People tried to overturn his 2016 election, promising to impeach him from day one and investigating him and trying to criminalize routine associations through his entire term. The divisive statements were from the leaders of the Democrat Party. The hate was palpable. They said he was a demagogue and compared him to Hitler when most of his official speeches were conducted in a monotone. He allowed the governors of the states to handle the pandemic as they saw fit. It wasn't until was installed into power when the mandates and other dictatorial decrees or imposed on American people
It wasn't until Joe Biden was installed that we got National mandates and nurses and doctors who had struggled heroically to save patients at the risk of their own lives we're fired by the Biden Administration.
Do you support Trump? The last I saw Trumpeepoo had three wives, committed adultery with every wife, grabs women by the privates, and lied every time he opened his mouth. President Obama on the other hand only had one scandal and that is when he wore a tan suit, whereas, Trump tried to shred our constitution. President Obama is a loving father and husband who doesn't cheat on his wife. The same is true about President Biden as well. Happily married and faithful. No scandal! Oh yea, President Obama married one woman his whole adult life! President Biden is a solid Christian who really cares about people. He went into politics when it was all about public service, not self-centered aggrandizement like Trump! Now, which one do the white evangelical right-wingers embrace? The one with character or the one that grabs women by the privates? Uhm...which one actually has Christian morals? Trump or Obama? If you are actually honest, the one who lives his life like a Christian isn't the one white evangelicals support. They like the corrupt lying narcissist known as Trump. Uhm, I'd say we have a real problem with hypocrisy and BS in the white evangelical movement. Oh yea, it is white evangelicals who are embracing white nationalism/supremacy!! It is white evangelicals who love their damn guns and support weapons made for mass murder. Uhm...I'd say we white evangelicals idolize John Wayne much more than Jesus!! And nobody treats the marginalized as poorly as white evangelicals especially if they are BIPOC or LGBTQ+ Honey, we in the white evangelical movement are in serious trouble. Arrogant and judgmental hypocrites! We have some serious repentance to do but we prefer living in denial. If you prefer Trump to Obama, you seriously need to read her book!! By the way, White evangelicals really don't like this book because they are white nationalists at heart who feel threatened that BIPOC communities now have the same rights and get the same power as us whites. At the heart, a large majority of white evangelicals are white nationalists/supremacists at their core and feel very threatened by the fact that we are quickly becoming the minority of minorities. I say Boo Hoo and I have the smallest violin to play for us! We also have no confidence in our faith because we are fearful of all these other faiths in America! What fearful wimps we really have become! We don't live life in faith. We live in fear because white evangelicals have not learned that perfect love casts out fear. We feel more powerful by making imaginary enemies of the other and keeping anyone who does not look like us, think like us or god forbid not vote like us under our control. We don't like to feel uncomfortable with the other. Sorry, that is NOT Jesus! That is just insecure irrational fear!! American white evangelicals make every decision based on fear. We DON"T live by faith and that reality is very evident to everyone else! Our religion in our society has become nothing but a resounding gong and clanging cymbals! We no longer see the truth so no one can trust our words or our actions. The salt has seriously lost its savor and we have no light because we are busy roaming around lost in our own self-made darkness. We foolishly think a loud mouth corrupt right-wing politician is going to save us. Silly us! Nothing like mixing our political idolatry with our religion. We just prefer John Wayne to Jesus. No big deal, right?
By the way, a big-mouth bully does not mean strength. Do you know who makes the best leaders? It is the quiet, humble people who actually are honest and care. They lead by example. Big mouth bullies only lead by their manipulative charisma and an iron fist!! I'll take a monotone voice to a BS liar any day of the week.
It is funny how quickly white evangelicals manipulate words and jump on the "hate" bandwagon when they are called to account or made to feel uncomfortable. (it is an obnoxious emotional manipulation by the way! Something we white evangelicals have been taught to do from the cradle). If we don't like what someone says call it hateful or that they must be going to hell. We do that really well as white evangelicals. Funny how that works. It is all a smokescreen and trying to pretend you have the higher moral argument. White evangelicals like their white status quo way more than they want the truth. Calling one to accountability is not hate. It is speaking the truth to those who have chosen to be pretty blind to reality or just don't know. It is so deeply ingrained in our culture that one just doesn't know how really racist our nation still is and the real problem with systemic racism that is in our very roots. This kind of racism is not a pointing of the finger, you are a racist and evil. It is now below the surface embedded in the very systems of our society and government. We fixed the external blatant racism with the civil rights act, but now we have all the webs of racism in our society below the surface that affects every system in our culture. The 1960's civil rights are anti-racism 1.0. Now we are going for the harder stuff deeply ingrained in our society. It is anti-racism 2.0. You call it hate when a whole marginalized group of people is calling out for the same rights you obtain so easily being white. Yea, you don't like it because they dare talk about racism which is as deeply embedded as misogyny in the white evangelical church. Watch January 6th - it is very evident white evangelicals have a serious issue with race! They want it white and they want to stay in power. By the way, especially southern white evangelicalism is a slaveholder's religion and it is deeply rooted in our white evangelical psyche! Time to shake it up, face the truth, and repent so our faith and our nation can heal. No cheap, sloppy agape. I mean real repentance and healing! What is not faced can't be changed!!! Until we do, we are no different from the rest of our society! I think secretly we like those tiki torches. You know there are fine people on both sides of those tiki torches. I mean we didn't like Robert E Lee coming down off his horse in the public square and we hated when they took down the traitor's flag off the North Carolina's capitol flag pole! But, no it is not us with the hate or with race issues. There is nothing to be seen here at all. We are perfect. It is the other who is the sinner. It can't be us with the sin problem. It is the evil them! They have the hate and we are just innocent victims being persecuted for our faith. NOT!!!
Kristin Du Mez...... I LOVE YOU!!!! I am a Black pastor and I have been saying many of the same things you are speaking about for So Many years now! When you speak, I feel as if somebody heard ME! Thank you for you deep extensive study and honest exposure of what's been at the root of American Christianity for so long. Thank God for you and your intelligence and diligence on this subject. Thank you for Standing UP!
Jimmy Carter was the embodiment of a president who was also a man of faith. But he’s held as an example of “weakness” while all of Trump’s obvious moral failings are ignored because he’s “honest”.
I wouldn't say that Trump is a man of faith.
Trump is a Hollywood generated image... no different from the president before him. It is the uninvited social engineers in our media who pick our leaders, not the lawful citizens.
Trump allows people to show their worst side, free of shame, that is why he is appreciated so much by so many Americans. He has vanquished guilt.
@@user-gk-y8t Or honest for that matter.
Carter is one of the most honest people to ever hold office....
I would also like to observe that modern evangelicalism is not Christianity, in my opinion, but a pseudo-Christian cult.
I am a Christian but I recognise nothing of Christ of the Gospels in any US Christian Fundamentalists.
That's the problem. Most people do "love others as they love themselves". An awful lot of people subconsciously hate themselves, and project it on others.
You've ended up with this perverse post Freudian critique, because you've omitted the premise of "Love they neighbour", which is "Love God" with all your humanity.
I walked away from churches after my mom's death because they were the cause of my mom's death. And then when my Ukrainian cousin came to United States evangelist was sitting next to her she was only 14 years old lost her mom and dad and the Evangelist when he found out she was Ukrainian called her a Nazi and to repent. She asked him are you Christian he said yes. She says we do not have Christians like you and Ukraine. For we love Jesus and love others as our neighbor. We believe in our faith. She told him he is not Christian for his to have love not hate or to be judgmental. She is now living in Canada. She says she does not want to live in United States with Christians like this with this thinking of hating others.
I am so sorry this happened to your family. I hope your cousin is happy in Canada. I, too, will be leaving as soon as I am able. This country is becoming too toxic for comfort.
Thank You Kristin! As a child I attended church on a regular basis until graduating fm High school, then sporadically until retiring about 15 yrs ago. About the time i contemplated becoming a member of a local Baptist church Obama became President. For the most part, the atmosphere seemed quite normal and run of the mill - no females in the clergy or offices, women did the grunt work - cleaning, preparing meals and snacks, etc. Not exactly my ideal, but when in Rome… When Obama became Pres - all bets were off. Snide comments about Obama and his Presidency, railing against Democrats and their unGodly policies were coming from the pulpit. I was asked directly, “How can you be a Dem and call yourself a Christian?”. Mind you I got no blow back from writing a weekly check for the offering, but weirdly ostracized to a diff Sunday School Class and told (not asked) that weekly Bible School classes would be held at my house. Fortunately, I had to fly to the Coast for a bit and upon returning, terminated my relationship with that pastor and his establishment. What i experienced at that Church was nothing like my youth. Instead of the msg of love and kindness as in “love thy neighbor as thy self, it was accusatory, judgmental, and worst of all political! So my lesson from this experience has been - I will never set foot in or support an institution championing a right wing populist agenda masking as a church!
They chose baal instead of Christ
Why is it that when the issue of rascism comes up and a somewhat civil conversation is to be had, blacks are asked to explain it; give their deep thoughts on it; give answers to possibly remedy it... this burden is on blacks and not on the perpetrators.
Evangelicals say they are obeying the word of God and following the example of Jesus. I beg to differ, if Jesus were alive today they'd call him a p****, a commie, an emasculated liberal. There is no way they'd allow him to go into their churches or preach to them. Trump is what they want, a white man who believes women are subservient to men, anyone who follows a different faith is bad and can't be trusted, you crush your enemies. He got into the White House by hating the same people they hate. It was so open, so brazen, they said that he says the things they think but can't say, he is "honest" because he has no filter. In reality, all he did was make it OK to openly be racist and sexist and homophobic. They've given up the pretense, what we see now is who they really are.
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Jesus drove the money changers out of the temple and overthrew their tables. That doesn't describe the wimpy person you think He was/is
No. . . no he wouldn't.
@@johnfitzgerald2426 He did that once, it's not like he was some super pissed off badass. He was humble, he was meek, he was everything we should strive to be.
The Deutsche Christen movement in Nazi Germany also promoted the idea that Jesus was sort of a rugged, man's man. It's not new.
Now in America he carries an AR15 to kill all his enemies!
Christianity is a Pagan religion.
Their doctrine is of the Roman Catholic church not the doctrine of Jesus Christ in the Bible.
I am curious to hear more about what you mean, as mostly I am quite confused reading this statement.
Great comment.
@@Merzui-kg8ds To find out the truth you have to be taught by the Holy Spirit not human beings. Read 1John 2:27 and pray for wisdom. Read the gospels and *STUDY* them.
Uhhh no... Roman Catholicism isn't Christianity... in fact Catholic leaders killed us by the thousands... you might want to research that lol. I mean they did it back in the colosseum, then they did it again during the dark ages. HELLO!? These two things are not the same lol. Wakey, wakey.
@@John-mu2js No it's actually a very misinformed comment that disregards actual history. We had this lil ole thing called the REFORMATION. You might want to look into it. It was kind of important lol.
Not to mention Christians for thousands of years have said the Pope is the Earthly seat of the Anti-Christ... idk ANY Christians personally who trust the Vatican and their evil ways.
That is a church of satan. It does have saved Christians who are being misled within it's congregation, but the leadership is 100% corrupt from my observation and always has been.
I thought America is just still like Salem MA in the 1700's. The witch burning is just sneakier.
lol No, that is absurd.
The first sentence in this video needs flushed out a little.
Claiming that “As a Christian I think that truth is important.”
Do you really think that because you’re a Christian, truth is important.
The truth doesn’t care if you’re a Christian. The irony burns. As a Christian you must have faith, which is believing or accepting something without evidence.
That trait is not exclusive to Christians.
Faith requires the absence of critical thought and complete disregard for truth.
@@---Dana---- define YOUR "truth" as it applies to everyone and everything.
@@ewokwarrior2656 , I agree with Ben Franklin. "The way to see by faith is to close the eye of reason." Faith is the same thing as superstition - baseless, groundless delusion. People who have faith don't care about truth at all. Faith and truth are like oil and water. They do not mix.
God made us to believe in our own choices and not by others . If you can't know by now between good and bad or make choices by listening to others then you need to give up your faith . It is only false .
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What does White Evangelicalism have to do with Christ?
@@williamw422 man, when I read Jesus' words, I feel convicted. Have I done enough for the poor? Would I be a good Samaritan? Would I sell my belongings and give them to the poor? ...The twisted thinking of the Evangelicals blows me away.
They'd probably crucify him again. Does that count?
Evangelical Christianity is not Christianity but a cult following. Sorry
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I agree. They have a very white and delightsome capitalist Jesus.
Never be sorry for telling the: truth"
@@boumajohn 😂 that's hilarious
No its not because you are free to leave anytime. Thats not a cult
Years ago, on CSPAN, I saw a conversation between Al Sharpton and a Republican political strategist (or something)...at some point Sharpton said something like 'god said, (insert bible verse)'...I can't remember the verse but it was something about _caring for the needy_ or _it's hard for a rich man to enter heaven_
I just remember it was some quote/verse related to money/wealth...and how that [money/material things] shouldn't be a Christian's priority.
Like I said, Al started the comment with 'god said...'
The Republican's immediate reply was: "Not my god."
When I heard it it always made me wonder what do Conservative Christians really believe...
To get a clue about this read about Rev. Robert Rauschenbush. Rauschenbush basically started the social gospel movement, and did not believe in Biblical inerrancy.
There was a backlash against the Social Gospel since then.
The backlash was adopted by Republicans who were afraid of the social gospel. But John Kasich a Republican doesn’t buy the mainstream Republican apostasy.
The Social Gospel emphasizes one aspect of the Gospel. There are other aspects. It’s not the whole complete Truth. I don‘t expect all traditions to emphasize it. But to ignore it completely takes a great deal of ignorance and mental gymnastics.
Yet Sharpton is wealthy.
@@stanlee2589 And? What does that have to do with a Republican saying he doesn't worship the god of Abraham?
This isn't about "wealth" it's about whether Republicans/their voters are being honest with everyone.
Are they who they claim to be or are they liars trying to undermine American society.
They believe in money control and submission that's what they believe.they have said and done it to many times for it to be untrue. When a person shows you who they are believe it. Question is how long will you let the lie live I SAY KILL IT.
Christians could probably do more than a baseline 10%-15% giving if a third of their check wasn't taken off the top by the government. They have families to support too. I don't understand the money comments, are you talking about millionaires and billionaires?
It really is noteworthy that fundamental differences in theological interpretations between Evangelical sects aren't necessarily enough to make enemies of others within the overall Evangelical community, but different social/political/economic philosophical orientations are.
Not to mention the fact that the social/political/economic stands they take further alienate them from the very people that Jesus, the author of their faith, commissioned them to reach out to.
I don't even like the word Christian anymore. The company I keep now is much kinder and these people are habitually honest for a pleasant change. AA meetings helped me see how being brutally honesty with yourself can get rid of all skeletons and imaginary ghosts if you continue making strides towards living and staying sober. Making many meetings with totally different people having a turn to speak or pass on the group's chosen topic helped me a decade ago. Your HIGHER power turns out to be your inner sober adult you had kept in your trunk stoned, drunk and lied to.
Evangelicals are not Christians. Christians believe in the prophets; peace be upon them. Evangelicals believe in the profit$ and how to get a piece of them.
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We need to punish the evangelicals
@@rockycomet4587 👈🏻Nah just Russian trolls!!!
Well said!
Phony Christians only offer their worst to humanity...
The white promo in Evangelicalism bit lends some sort of possible explanation to something that has puzzled me since my misspent youth. In Corpus Christi, TX in the early '80s there was a rescue mission with a Mexican-American preacher who at one point in a sermon went on about how God liked and the Devil hated blonde hair and blue eyes. When this preacher was Mexican-American with Aztec physical features. It kind of creeped me out that he seemed to regard me in a more positive light simply because I had yellow-blonde hair at the time and blue to blue-green eyes. And there I was a 21 year old homeless guy sowing my wild oats in the worst ways possible.
that's a little bizarre
@@cattycorner8 Which is why it has freaked me out for so many years.
I had a guy from Uganda tell me that people from the West just have better solutions for the problems in Africa than Africans and that god clearly loves the US more, as it is more prosperous. Freaked me out and I ended the friendship after that because that sounded like a crazy person to me.
Great conversation... Very accurate in my life experience. Hypocrites and the less than meek.
I think Kristin s book is very accurate. However if I were to use it as a mirror for my own family they,would immediately put their heads in the sand.
Poor Kristin hasn't a clue.
@@Logiconfire yup as I said..head in the sand
"Jesus was crucified by a coalition of political-religious conservatives (the Pharisees) and political-religious liberals (the Sadducees), working through the secular government (the Roman Empire).
All political parties and systems are a mixed bag of good and evil principles, whereas the kingdom of Christ is composed only of good principles that arise out of God’s indiscriminate love for all people. As a follower of Jesus, therefore, I cannot be loyal to any one political party, but rather must affirm true principles wherever they may be found regardless of political party.
I must subscribe to the good principles that are present on the conservative end of the spectrum and to the good principles that are on the liberal end of the spectrum. And that makes me a political freak, or at least a political anomaly, in a world of frenzied political hate." End Quote. [I did not originate these thoughts, nor does anyone actually have any good thoughts. For all GOOD thoughts originate from God in Christ Jesus].
Is this from the book being discussed?
@@cattycorner8 Hi, these writings are not from the book being discussed. Just adding insight. Hope you find a blessing.
"Don’t stay somewhere to try and fix it." Excellent advice
Yeah her book title is exactly correct. But Nothing will change in America or the Church.
Talking about it at least gives some hope. "Silence is death"
@7:35, God sometimes chooses, God has to choose, God doesn't have no choice to choose imperfect beings." That's blasphemy what this guy said. Saying God has no choice is like saying God is not in control. God can change any person and any heart if He so chooses to.
I went to Calvin and there was a strain of Amway / Reaganism there in the mid 1980s.
I can remember coming across a Conservative Digest article in college and thinking that they had little power and influence.
Then, I was in Georgia during the Gingrich years in the 1990s. I saw how deluded the North Fulton / East Cobb hedonism was with a Christian facade. For such nice looking communities to drive through (all creature comforts imaginable), the sense of privilege and strong personalities were hard to ignore. I started to worry.
None of that compared to this recent toxic strain that evolved from early Fox "News" to Trumpism, years of reinforcement of false narratives, Machiavellian strategies, and the re-victimization of victims. That is, hated of the poor and minorities. If you are not "successful", then you are weak.
The Amway / Reaganism system on steroids in a social media age.
It's all about power, collective narcissism, and flag worship with the co-opting of Christian belief. They are manipulating willing codependents.
Read "Sex, Power, and Partisanship" by Garcia to really understand the evolutionary biological roots of the authoritarian white Christian nationalists Du Mez's book describes. Garcia's books is one of the most important I've ever read.
God is no respecter of persons. He doesn't hold one race or culture higher or lower like mankind does. To blame one race, one culture, for the troubles of the world is what has been repeated throughout man's history. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Man cannot save himself; Acts 4:12 says about Jesus, "Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name given under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved."
What are the definitions of "evangelical" from the different eras of history?
I cannot answer that, but I think it helps to see it as a "revival" kind of Protestantism. Perhaps beginning with types like Jonathan Edwards in the US (a period called "The Great Awakening,") Strengthened by the formulaic gospel of Billy Graham in the 1950's.
Preaching about a fiery hell provided a lot of power over the masses (later used for political purposes)
Another influence was REACTIONARY Christianity protesting MODERNITY. Modern theology here is exemplified by movements like the Second Vatican, German Liberal Theology and Liberation Theology (in poor countries). The Evangelicals thought the gospels should NOT be "modernized" or confused with "Godless Socialism" (and therefore objected to caring for the poor through governmental "programs of social uplift" as Martin Luther King called it.) The Soviet Union championed the poor working classes and international Socialism, so the evangelicals then, stood for "the opposite," namely Americanism, Nationalism and Capitalism (they had to shoehorn in Christian verses to make it work)
Christianization and politicization of ABORTION (among Protestants) in the 1970's is also part of this Evangelical political movement of today.
Note:
Here in Norway we tend to separate between "Evangelic" (just normal Protestants) and "Evangelical" (firebrand conservative Christians). I hope that helps ..
If you are a Christian, then read the bible, grapple with what it says - for it does not fit neatly into modern political idealogies - and any party that claims to own it is using religion for its own aims. Recognize the tree by the fruit it produces. If it possesses none of the fruits of the Spirit (charity, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, generosity, gentleness, faithfulness, modesty, self-control, chastity), it is not of the Spirit.
No party claims ownership. All you know about Christians in the world today is through the media, who have no fear or love of G-d.
@@cattycorner8Whatever. I'm a Christian. I go to church and live in a heavily Christian area. I also leave my house and go other places and live in the real world and am capable of listening to people IRL and observing actual trends and can compare what the media says, versus what talking points I hear people repeating IRL. Here in the US I have heard R's equate themselves with Christianity and Democrats with atheism (and Satan and secret muslims, basically whoever is anti-Christ) since the 80s and it has only grown in recent years. It has helped solidify identity politics with their base but I worry that it is at a great cost because it is turning others away from coming to know Him, because they don't like what's being publicly represented. To that end, what is in the media does matter.
For true gospel, one must study the Original Scriptures, before the text was twisted into the modern versions.
@@lawrencecarlson2425 If you ever find them, let me know.
Sanskrit and Hebrew
John C Russell......The Germanization of early medieval Christianity ....is a must read for these folks. This is not the first time that Christian faith has been captured by an aggressive hierarchical male culture.
Not a part of a protestant christian faith - however, White Christian Nationalism was the final straw. Now I am a happy athiest.
Did your congregation become White Nationalists? I have known many, many Christians and none have been White Nationalists. The truly dangerous, radical white nationalists are in prison and hate the Christian G-d. Most of them these days are pagan.
I’m sorry. Christian Nationalism is ugly.
Its not cause true faith doesnt lead to "hero" worship.
Only in America would you see a bumper sticker reading "God, Guns, and Guts" displayed as a statement of faith. The "Christian" right twists the words of Christ beyond all recognition, when it mentions them at all.
Jesus still weeps.
It is too bad more emphasis in our culture is not made about the distinction between (U. S.) evangelical and mainstream churches. I’m not sure about Catholic churches, but many Protestant main-stream churches offer a good alternative to evangelical churches. They have not had the razzle dazzle of evangelical TV ministers, and their attendance has waned in recent years, but they are much stronger in traditional Christian doctrine and are usually not subject to the John Wayne phenomenon.
Psalms 147:19-20
[19]He sheweth his word unto Jacob, his statutes and his judgments unto Israel.
[20]He hath not dealt so with any nation: and as for his judgments, they have not known them. Praise ye the LORD.
Go away.
They’re right
@@kendricbell9454 christianity is a false religion and the gentiles have nherited lies. They know nothing about the bible which was written by Israelites to Israelites.
@@azurelad236 tell yourself that
People are being led in the wrong direction.
Does Christianity tell you to ignore the Constitution ? As a Catholic and a Christian I don't believe in forcing God to people who don't believe .
God made us to believe in our own choices and not by others . If you can't know by now between good and bad or make choices by listening to others then you need to give up your faith . It is only false .
You contradicted the end with the mid way of telling other's what to believe is cause it takes time to fall in place. Honestly I don't like having to see justice for another and not the original people of America not much ?
It prospered from a human view point by roman synchronization which murdered it's spirit not THE SPIRIT
Seperation of church state part of the constitution fundamental blockstone of our constitution.....
Where?
"Protect thy brand". Is that gospel of Matthew or Luke?
This comment section is full of crazies.🤣🤣🤣 Stay safe!
They are mad because they are being exposed and can't accept their own corrupted image.
@@jonasvalero Wh1te makes r1ght! 💪💪💪
Didn't take long, I do believe you have a valid point........stay safe
Without wanting to be offensive, I really don't like this comment. At least these "crazies" are looking for answers. If they stick with it, there's a chance that they'll develop some sane rationality. That's my hope, anyway, and it's why I participate in these discussions.
stay safe from what? I totally disagree with her but she has every right to say it just as I, as a white male Bible believing Christian has every right to say my beliefs but I feel that as a white male Christian I have much more to fear from the anti white anti Christian media being pushed on America. as I would hope you know, all modern media was produced to INDOCTRINATE not entertain thus the reason most countries have made it mandatory that their citizens own televisions and why things like the OJ Simpson trial etc are televised. the agenda is controlled by freemasonic SCUM such as PUTIN and Zelenskyy are both FREEMASONIC stooges with zoleneskyy being an actor just like Trump, G. Bush Jr, Reagan Clinton was just a cocaine snorting communist with Hillary an adrenochrome drinking satanic witch
Kristin would be so much happier in Sierra Leone or Port au Prince...
My stars, and I must admit I'd be much happier if she went there.
how is that?
@@roymaddocks3184 Without observing the nationalist teachings in the Bible - it is an exercise in futility...!
Four guests, all the same point of view. This wasn't a conversation.
It wasn't a DEBATE. A conversation is people talking and listening to each other.
noun: a talk, especially an informal one, between two or more people, in which news and ideas are exchanged.
And this surprises you in any way?
Things like this make me understand why Paul said women should sit down and shut up. IMO
handsome black man doesnt get to say anything for 30min wtf
I noticed that. They too busy hearing themselves talk
THANK YOU! That was bothering me the whole time. They should have given him space to speak much sooner and much more often.
I will Watch this later & save me time to READ the book .
The Old Testament is essentially the history of the earliest ancient Israelites from the time they left Ur ( modern day Iraq ) to their settling in Caanan ( modern day Israel/ Palestine ), settling in ancient Egypt and then back to their final conquest and obliteration of the Caananites leading to the formation of ancient Israelite Kingdom
Truth and Christianity are pretty much mutally exclusive . . . .
I like your Christ but not your Christianity - Mahatma Gandhi.
He must have been talking to an Evangelical.
“I venture to point out that both the English and the Indians spring from a common stock, called the Indo-Aryan. … A general belief seems to prevail in the Colony that the Indians are little better, if at all, than savages or the Natives of Africa. Even the children are taught to believe in that manner, with the result that the Indian is being dragged down to the position of a raw Kaffir.”
“to degrade us to the level of the raw kaffir whose occupation is hunting, and whose sole ambition is to collect a certain number of cattle to buy a wife with, and then, pass his life in indolence and nakedness.”
Gandhi talking about Blacks.
British Imperial Christianity was very much like White Evangelical Christianity is today
@@TBOTSS yes ..but there is a larger point. I think all of us, Christians and Non Christians , can follow the main teachings of Christ ( paraphrasing)
1) I and my Father are one
2) Love thy Neighbor like Thyself
This is 100% compatible with the core teaching of All faiths ( in their essence)..in that there is a divine spark in all of us ...and we are asked to see that in ourselves and in everyone...
That is my religious practice.
What else does a man need? If every Christian followed this ..there would no quarell.
It is for us to follow Christ ..not drag others along or enforce his teachings .. That is arrogance and assumes that God needs your help.
@@edwardmiessner6502 They sent tons of missionaries .. Most Hindu Intellengentia loved the Teachings of Christ ..but the problem was Hinduism was/is not a Religion but a Religious Framework ... why do you think it has a million Gods? ... You are free to worship whomever you want ..Because it understood that we are worshipping the undefinable in a limited form ... God is bigger than the biggest box you can put him in ... And all names , labels , images and idols are boxes .. they are a representation of God but not God ... just the way ♾️ is a symbol for infinity but not Infinity itself .. you were free to choose your own symbol for infinity ..
So the missionaries had nothing new to teach India.
Jesus and Christianity fit in 100% with Hinduism as one of its four paths ( the path of love) ... but the missionaries did not see it the same way.
@@TBOTSS and yet he found in the teaching of Christ that Turn your Cheek is a act of courage and defiance .. That powered his non violent movement and inspired a nation of 300 million...
Indians won their freedom inspired by Teachings of Christ ...and didn't have to call themselves Christians.
Gandhi had plenty of Flaws ..I am student of Gandhi ..but that doesn't detract from amazing insight into God/Religion and how we all can learn from each other.
If you support Trump than their is no way you are following Jesus they are totally different
In the U.S., we essentially have a two party system. When it comes down to the wire, you pick one of the two candidates.
Biden was/is such a terrible leader, Trump became the better choice to me. Biden will be replaced by his VP before the next election.
@@Christian-uc2qi You need to read Jesus sermon on the mount and purge your worldview of politics, because you have been corrupted by politics and hate and fear. As long as you continue to follow this path of the Evilgelical, you will end up in Hell with the rest of the False Christian. Behind me Satan!
Preach the gospel to all nations is the command and it was
Preached by gospel servants
America africa asia and australia
Benefited from it
Obviously there were abuses against the natives by other elements not
Of the church!
Had the faith not been corrupted long ago and at multiple times throughout its history? I guess evangelicals left their mark of corruption as well but to blame them for the corruption of Christianity is at best disingenuous.
Yes , there always has been wolves in sheep’s clothing . Jesus himself warned of it . Why do people not put things in perspective . In this modern age we have to be wise of false prophets . People there is nothing new under the sun . Reading history is great, then people could put balance in this all .
So misleading and biased! People like these corrupt and twist the truth!
I've never heard of Kristin D. but I do know this, that Christ Jesus is the "Savior of the world." And to bring Christ down to the level of party politics is one of the most diabolical things a Christian can do. Why? Because the Bible is clear in pronouncing that we as Christians have "confessed that were strangers and pilgrims on the earth" and that "our citizenship is in heaven" (Hebrews 11:13-16; Philippians 3:20).
@@JohnJakeWilliam Amen!
@@JohnJakeWilliam the fact is conservative evangelical Christians have welded politics to their white nationalist extremist ideology. I have been to a church that prayed for the death of Obama, another that sent an email claiming that Obama is a secret ISIS Muslim, and encouraged voters to vote in Oregon primaries for the Dem candidate who would most likely lose in a national election, etc
9:25 going from an educated, truly christian man in the Whitehouse, to Trump... Truly christian? As a christian myself, I find neither president meets my definition of "truly christian", though for different reasons. One doesn't even need to be a religious person to find both presidents completely undesirable. Thomas Sowell, noted economist, non-religious as far as I know, considers Obama and Trump the two worst presidents since WW2, if not since WW1. And for different reasons, of course.
You might think Obama was not a good president but what is your problem with him as a Christian? Not enough John Wayne for you?
I don't need Christian. All I need is a person of character. Our obsession with Christianity is getting tiresome. I'm a Christian and it makes my stomach turn hearing all this about needing a Christian president. Christians these days show very little ethics or morals. Sadly, you want the very opposite of what the religious right calls God's man. Trump --- God's man. What a damn joke!
There is no supernatural. There are no gods, no demons, no angels, no virgin births, no resurrections from the dead, no e.s.p, no ghosts, no fairies, no witches, no 'enlightened ones', no reincarnations, no miracles, no goddesses, no 'holy' books, no 'holy' cities, no windigos, no 'god's providence', no evil spirits, etc., etc. etc...
I think you're on to something here. Thank You!
Tell that to the symbols that run major institutions like medicine. Why would you vow to the death angel of Revelation?
Christ Crucified for your sin is the only way to God. You must be born again. Salvation is not a human decision or accomplishment. Salvation is the choice of God.
This is absolutely ridiculous. The Church is not an organization. The Church are to he elect of God. There will always be false teachers and false believers until the end.
Yes. But who are true and who are false?
Who highlighted this split to the public? A historian or Trump and the Republican party? White
Evangelicals or the groups who stand with them like Proud Boys, 3%ERS, White supremacists or both as strange bedfellows? For a political purpose or a Jesus purpose? For the political win or for the winning of souls?
"You must... " Sigh.
God is opening eyes and open the spirit and revealing himself or what's going on and not just the church but what's going on in the hard the Mind and Spirit what's going on with humanity and where we have fallen short of our relationship and our baby ants and commitment to Christ and where we have became fleshly and where we have became disobedient and like the scripture says did it by own ways instead of following the obedient ways of the Lord and instructions of his word and being knowing the voice of God God submitting to the will of God knowing that if we surrender entirely to God and know that God is the one in control and stop being according to the fleshly desires Like It said In Timothy first John chapter two do not love the world at anything got the world cuz in the world is the lust of the flesh the lust of the eyes and the pride of life God never called us to be religious but have a relationship if you go to Amos 5:21 it says God hates religion and your festivals have become a stench to him because you do it for your own benefit in your own desires it ain't to please God it honor God is for your own purpose and he knows the heart and motives of a man because if you go to Hebrews chapter 4 he said God knows the intentions he knows the spirits are sold the being of a man because before we were created before we was placed in the mother's womb he knew was in Star Wars he needed us together when I prefer for when I mothers and fathers came together he placed it in the womb and he knew what we was going to be a man a woman before we came into the room so God knows everything and he know where the spirit before we even came into the room but we need a fleshly body right when we died the flesh going back to the ground and then we're going to be resurrected by the spirit like Jesus was
Why is there somebody introducing the book for the first five minutes when the author SITS RIGHT THERE? I nearly stopped watching because I wanted to see an interview with the author and than got the impression this is just going to be a mediocre book review.
Also: This is the most unhinged comment section I have seen in months, what`s up with your listeners?
Faith is ignoring truth I favor of what you believe...so you cannot have faith AND value truth.
Weird dictionary you must have. I can't find that definition anywhere.
very nice!
The book is Isrealites history not Esau! This book is not even for or about y’all
The truth is right in front of their eyes, but they'd have to believe that we're human in order to see it. So, tough sell. Not that it matters what they believe. It's written.
@@abinsurly2910 truth is not in them...thats evident at this point
The earth was given unto the hand of the wicked...thats why they have been able to rule but look at the state of the world in all its chaos and backwardness‼️ It is written and all has been fulfilled and now the countdown begins...I'm incredibly tired of the heathen and gentiles having their way in this demonic, diabolical kingdom
Are we doing the black hebrew israelite thing again? Because man that's getting old...
@@EQOAnostalgia Hunni, so is waiting on whyte Jesus‼️🙇🏾♀️lol 😅 please 💁🏾♀️
Isaac's Oldest Son is the Sasquatch People , ask the Native Americans ( I did )
cool
So Obadiah prophesied the destruction of the sasquatches?!?!? I don’t believe you.
@@Patcannistan Who is Esau today ?
Which native Americans the originals or the ones that exist now.
@@carolinegardner8214 eh?
Daniel 4:17 (KJV) This matter [is] by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
Jeremiah 27:5-11 (KJV) 5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that [are] upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me. 6 And now have I given all these lands into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him. 7 And all nations shall serve him, and his son, and his son's son, until the very time of his land come: and then many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of him. 8 And it shall come to pass, [that] the nation and kingdom which will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, and that will not put their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish, saith the LORD, with the sword, and with the famine, and with the pestilence, until I have consumed them by his hand. 9 Therefore hearken not ye to your prophets, nor to your diviners, nor to your dreamers, nor to your enchanters, nor to your sorcerers, which speak unto you, saying, Ye shall not serve the king of Babylon: 10 For they prophesy a lie unto you, to remove you far from your land; and that I should drive you out, and ye should perish. 11 But the nations that bring their neck under the yoke of the king of Babylon, and serve him, those will I let remain still in their own land, saith the LORD; and they shall till it, and dwell therein.
Written in January of 1888, AMS: "We also view with grave apprehension the corruption of our politics, and the immorality not only of those who are exalted to high places in the nation, but of the nation itself; but we know that politics cannot be purified nor immorality checked by legal enactment. There is only one remedy for immorality and corruption, and that is the gospel of Jesus Christ."
Agreed
@John Sheffield What is AMS?
Bias unscriptural and cherry picked examples the book would not hol up to any real scrutiny from reputable theologians or evangelical why is their never a real debate or anyone who opposes the narrative of this book
Why do you think?
Faith is not your debate club. Either believe or do not. Nobody should be twisting your arm to come to salvation. Take it or leave it. It is a free gift.
Steve Beasley, exactly. I’d like to see her debate Jacob Reaume or George Ippolito and see if she can stand head to head with them. I have not read JAJW but I have read about it and one of her claims is that the Evangelicals joined the pro-life movement not to protect the inherent God-given rights of unborn life but to gain autonomy over women’s bodies and choices. People like her ascribe to us the worst of intentions-that we are a bunch of Handmaid Talers. Of course nothing could from the truth. The goal here is not to subjugate women but to help them gain a deeper understanding of the seriousness of this decision-that it’s not just your body anymore when your pregnant-the crippling effects Post Abortion Syndrome can have on the psyche and also that you don’t know what that individual will contribute to the world if you deny him/her the chance to find out. Why would you want that on your conscience for the rest of your life?
Thawada (Thank you).
Can I talk privately to the moderator? I have to share a video clip.
Obama, truly Christian? ???
Yes he showed the character of being a true Christian with his family and the way he behaved with others. And why should people be judging other people. That's what I don't like about evangelists they're always judging people by the color of their skin but what religion or beliefs they believe in and they're always using the word repent. It really gets on my nerves. They're just a bunch of hypocrites
This stuff is pure comedy.
They just make up stuff claiming that church is racist and many other things
Did anyone here say the church was racist?
If racism was not a problem in evangelical Protestantism, how do you explain the long survival of slavery and segregation, and the enormous efforts it took to challenge them?
@@andrewjohnson8232
Wait, so because it existed in the world and the USA it’s the evangelicals fault?
Who led the fight to end slavery?
@@robertfetrow4612
Christians led the fight.
Not sure how that answers my question.
@@robertfetrow4612
Black people led their own fighr!
@@catherinefox5078 really
So they fought the civil war and created the abolition movement?
"He made them male and female." The problem with evangelicalism is how it has been influenced by unbiblical feminism.
@Tyler Hopkins Doomed
You had me until you called Obama “a true Christian.” It sounds like you are just fine with militarism, not so unlike those you criticize.
obama was an antichrist
Obama could have used his limited authority to save more Americans homes from Foreclosure, instead of "Banks To Big To Fail", but the Antichrist? The number 666 is used to invoke Satan. But Obama doesn't have six letters in each three names: 666. However: Ronald Wilson Reagan does: 666.
@@annowens5019 obama is an antichrist
How is Trump more Christian than Obama? White is your problem? Both are equally evil.
@@John-mu2js Trump worked and gave laws to protect Christians, obama was against Christians.
The first commandment: You shall worship the LORD your GOD with all your heart, soul, mind and body. You break the first commandment. You have broken all the Commandments!? This is the most important commandment. The first commandment. To all you churches, camps and preachers. Separation from the first Commandment is seperation from the LORD GOD. That only leads you to death and the separation from God. Thats hell.
Not brave, but sad people who feel their education gives them a right to decide for others what is correct. So much self pride here...but they won't see it. Blinded by themselvees
Classic confirmation bias
LOL the irony!
It's a book. Read it or don't, agree with it or don't. No one is forcing anyone to think it's correct.
I can only speak for myself being a white, Christian evangelical myself but just know that most others like me held these same views:
Most of us didn’t like Trump as a person but viewed ANYONE dogmatically against the media, and the Democrats, as someone to champion. Face it the Republicans are typically weak and spineless
The bus recordings were definitely not good and I cringed at hearing Trump talk like he did. But when it came time to vote I knew I would never support anyone on the Democratic ticket especially Hillary. To me, the Democratic Party is the personification of true EVIL….and for that reason I voted for Trump even though he was not a good person either
Obama was definitely not viewed as a Christian by me because of his many, many lies! Worst of all, he signed an executive order declaring Gay marriage as the Law…..without taking a vote so the people could chime in. This was Executive overreach! If he allowed the PEOPLE to vote I would have more respect for him.
Beth Moore is viewed as a clown-world type of teacher/evangelist, not anyone that had much influence in the Christian world.
So is it safe to assume people on the Left have no standards either with hypocrisy to boot? For example, Bill Clinton, adulterer, rapist, and the guy who had sex with a 20 year old intern in the Oval Office is still highly respected, almost hero worshipped by people on the Left?? This is curious indeed
Lastly I’ve lived in 3 States and I’m 50 years old yet I almost never encountered white racism whether in the church or not. So out of say 400 white people I’ve know or still know, maybe 2 or 3 were racists. It definitely exists but not as prevalent as this panel says it is. The Bible itself teaches all people are equal in the eyes of God, because He created them all, that is my belief and what most of the Christians I know believe. I love all people from every race and culture!
It's fascinating that you, a white person, claim to have a good gauge on "how racist the world is"......if our society still has white supremacist values, wouldn't it make sense that you'd personally experience the least of it????
@Elite Drum Lessons These people really don't know what they are talking about. They think they know it all, but they are totally clueless and lost.
@@cattycorner8 Yeah this panel totally doesn’t get it at all. Totally clueless from top to bottom
Obama signed executive order declaring Gay marriage as the Law? Wow what a blatant lie. You call yourself a Christian? Your just a misinformed liar.
This is exactly what you get when you tell people their meaningless opinions matter.
I would love to see how this panel handles the racism of Africa or Muslim nations? Or say, Asian Nations?
This entire video is a joke
Read The Bhagavad-Gītā As It Is, only with KRSNA can we have eternal life, Hare KRSNA.
No. Only those who believe in my dog Fred will inherit eternal life, and my argument's as good as yours.
An hour to say they hate Christianity. Not really breaking new ground here but this is the sad state of graduates US history PhD programs churn out
Also a sad statement of the cancer on Evangelicalism who have sold out Christ for an extremist political agenda. Repent before you lose your salvation, or to get it back having already lost it.
This is the definition of only seeing hat you want to see.
Kristen is a Christian
They don't want to hear this.
It’s always gotta be black and white doesn’t it.
Did you miss the bits about about gender, truth and equity?
Obama is not a Christian lady and this hole conversation is so miss- leading in so many important topics you all make me sick... I will pray in hope your souls are forgiven!
Do you mean Trump is not a Christian lady? Or Trump was a Christian in Disguise?
@@annowens5019 Can you not read?
@@mr.horrorchild4094 ... Can you? Then again, you appear to be busy focusing on other's genitalia.
@@annowens5019 No, you, yet again, are mistaken
@@mr.horrorchild4094 ... Yet again? Typical inept Trump response. How absurd. You contacted me. I merely pointed out, Mr. Horrorchild(?) your Inappropriate obsession with another male's genitalia?
The Lord Jesus as put forth in the Bible had no illusions of all the problems we are to have, to have gone thru this trial of difference of nationalism just shows me the realism as well, He prayed, the idealism:"...on earth as it is in heaven,,,," killed by the forecasting bad weather --- prophets of God by the Holy Spirit.....i think here are three divisions: Apostolic Catholicism, Roman/Constantinople and the REFORMATION ( popularity of mass availability///)do it yourself//// but do it the best,,,---me I will follow cause im like a dumb ol sheep......eg:( i wanted fame glory the world sex ad infinitum but the WORD shows us JESUS....in turn makes us and makes John Wayne look like a twinky......on down the line...ad infinitum!
What?
Blame a group of people specifically on the shade of their skin on the problems of the country. The most basic form of racism.
So true, and yet, why are you bringing it up here? Are you commenting on how this is a tactic consistently used by evangelical Christian leaders?
@@pauldaigle2344 give me one evangelical that has said black people of a particular religion have been the problem in America.
@@Viodoxy black people of a specific religious group? No. Black people in general? That’s sort of what this talk is about, how white supremacy is a fundamental part of evangelical history.
@@Viodoxy I mean, seriously… Donald Trump very explicitly blamed the problems of the country on Muslims and Mexicans and white evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for that message. You can’t support explicit racism and prejudice and then just pretend it didn’t happen.
@@pauldaigle2344 exactly you can not give a single example of an evangelical blaming group of people based on the shade of their skin on the problems of the world. Whereas this intire book and video is overtly racist. Let me ask you a question in history when you read about sargon of akkad is it a story of Semitic supremacy?
Welcome to Woke/Progressive Christianity. Which has Very Little to do with Christianity. I 1st ran into this in the early 1980's with Jim Wallis & Sojourners Magazine. Their arguments have not gotten any better in the last 40 years.
What they're talking about is the exact opposite of progressive. And if anything woke christianity would be more in line with Jesus' teachings.
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"And if anything woke christianity would be more in line with Jesus' teachings."
Chapter & Verse please.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 The Book of Matthew, the entire 5th through 7th chapters.
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the Sermon on the Mount, Progressive/Woke? I don't think so. At Beast a perversion of Our Lords teaching.
@@stevenwiederholt7000 how do you define progressive/woke? Seems like it just means "bad thing" in your head
I love Reading & I try to Read as much as time allows me, however I never Read a Religious book or Follow any Religion. I have always respected people,respectfully accepted different views & peoples rights to worship their religions. I have never had a Religious Debate or seek to debate but as an observer over of how religious groups use their beliefs/platforms to make a difference ,the MOST DISAPPOINTING let down I have ever seen witnessed & read about the the #EvangelicalChurch when they went ALL-IN for a disgusting human being like Donald J Trump & jumped on #Birtherism #Muslim #TheOther #Black ….Man who are these people ? What happened to their GOSPEL ? Love ? etc. Evangelical exposed themselves for just wanting & interested in ONE THING :POWER AT ALL COST ! Evangelicals are a disgrace & flat out #Racists. I will purchase the Book & Follow the writer .
Do you have first hand experience that is what they did? Evangelicals are not racists, Eliman.
Good, scholarly discussion, but no solution.
True, although "light" on a issue is often the best disinfectant. Of course, it is not the intellectuals who are looking for an authoritarian religion to follow, so how do we speak to THOSE "masses" (who often are looking to be deceived) in a way that THEY hear?
First a book. Then discussion. Then the internet.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. - Lao Tzu
What the hell! I am completely confused about what is being said bcaz why are they using the title Evangelical this way of living has absolutely nothing to do with what their talking about! Why they using this word! That is weird 😕
Thieves and hypocrites!
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some people are really sick
Jon please use a damn mic dude… so annoying I must leave, so disrespectful to your audience…
No such thing as white ppl, y'all are Esaú/Edom!
Unless you are allowed a home of your own and to be governed by your own kind you will always be a slave to someone else...
Have you ever read the scriptures?
Most American churches don't follow Jesus or actually know what he said or instructed. Followers of Christ today should not follow what Jesus taught the twelve disciples but what he taught Paul only. He was the apostle of the gentiles. Romans 11:13. Acts 22:21.
1. Jesus said, "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 10:5, "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:".
2. Churches teach tithing. But the bible says, "Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver."
3.They teach baptism as part of or a requirement for conversion. Mark 16:16. However, Acts 16:30, "And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.".
4. They don't know about "the Dispensation of grace ". Romans 16:25; Ephesians 3:1-2.
Jesus never met Paul. Paul made everything up based on his own beliefs. The gospels were written AFTER Paul wrote his letters. Jesus never said he was divine or that he was forming a new religion. Christianity remains the worst scourge on the world in human history.
@@indimist Acts 9:3, 26:16, 1 Corinthians 15:8; Galatians 1:1-2. If what you are saying is true then then13 epistles that he wrote should be thrown out. And Peter is a liar based on 2 Peter 15-16. Also, there is no grace to Gentiles. Jesus and the twelve apostles practiced the law. Acts 10;28. And converted gentiles to the law or Judaism, Acts 10:34-35. Only Paul introduces grace without becoming a Jew. Without Paul, Ephesians 2:11-12, would still be true.
"Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:"
@@tyronegooch5251 Paul was a Jewish fella from Tarsus-a Greco-Roman area. He was a Roman citizen + worked for Rome-initially persecuting Christians. He claimed to be a Pharisee but probably lied. Because he went against Jewish law, which Jesus never did, he probably was not a Pharisee or devoted Jew + romanized. Only about 7 of Paul’s writings have been attributed to him. The others were probably written by others as style, language etc. is different.
Paul + early church fathers were anti-Semitic. The things they said about Jesus’ people is horrible + these portions in the gospels should be removed. Paul was a Roman citizen who promoted a personal religion that used Jesus + his movement to undermine the Jewish rebellion + to unite tribes under a single deity within a pagan worldview. Not- Jesus eventually becomes a man-god which is a pagan practice. Then 300 years AFTER Jesus death the trinity was devised.
Basically it’s all bunk devised-contrived by those in power. The true followers of Jesus were Jews who never ever said he was divine. Jesus never said he was divine. The gospels were written decades AFTER Jesus died and AFTER Paul laid out his religious belief system.
Christianity has been a horrific business-and it is a business. Religious belief does not change bad people into good people- in many cases religious belief makes bad people worse. Putin is a perfect example. As is ISIS or even Nazi Germany which was a VERY Christian country.
@@indimist You have any evidence from the bible for your rant? To the contrary:
"He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Like 7:29-30, "And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John. But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him."
Tyrone several of us really don't care about the details of what specifically separate the various denominations. We'd be happy to let everyone worship in peace but you cannot drag ideas into the public forum that do not serve everyone. Our diverse culture must serve all citizens. This Christian fascism will serve only to divide and destroy.
Oh that MI nasal whine is strong in this one…
Being a person of faith effectively makes you a poor politician.
Thank God for poor politicians.
trump is their lord nd their god who wants the praise and worship of his minions.
these people have been baptized with the same anointing or Chaos, Lying, Hatred and Darkness as their leader, trump.
wherever he goes, he spreads Chaos and he infects others with his anointing from the abyss.
in the beginning Darkness was upon the earth but God said, Let There Be Light (Light Be)! And it was so.
In the Name of King Jesus, the One with All Authority, I speak, I proclaim, and it Must be so:
In the Name of Jesus, I Bind the Spirit of Chaos over this Nation. You Have No Authority and I declare that you are Powerless and Command that you and your minions Leave Now! I command you to be Quiet Now! Out in the Name of Jesus! Out Now! I speak Peace. Peace Now, in Jesus Name!
I command Everything that has been affected by the Spirit of Chaos to be made straight and to be Healed!
Weird
DARRELL McClanahan Missouri first candidate for US Senate
Your profile pic alone tells all that you are a part of the problem. United States is not a theocracy, and to get one to do it have to meet overthrow of our Republic. That is what Republicans are wanting to do now, isn’t it? Fortunately for Missourians, Darrell McClanahan will not win any elections.
I have grown up with Baptists and Nazarenes all my life and while I may not have seen eye to eye with them on everything, they are on the whole kind, loving, upstanding, productive citizens you would really want as your neighbors. I have never in my life heard them talk about one race being less a human being than themselves, subjugating women or using the word “patriarchy.” People like Kristen du Mez are either wolves in sheep’s clothing who seek to divide or they’ve been hurt somewhere down the road and never gotten over it so they project their frustrations and bitterness on an entire group by reducing them to a type. Read Romans 16:17-18 and Titus 3:9-11.
I can only guess that you're a defensive white man who interprets any divergent view of the world as an attack and who views racial inclusivity as a deep inconvenience. You probably think white privilege is.a figment of millions of non white people's imaginations who are 'whiney' about being constantly brutalised and dehumanised. And because your world is socialised as white and inoculated from meaningfully engaging these realities (hence your neighbours who you never head speaking about any race as less can only be assumed as white ) you feel deeply affronted by a world view that de-centres your white maleness and yes patriarchy.The idea of co-existing with non white people in their full humanity is thus your offence at this author is so inconvenient and angering. At a guess.
Lucky you. You’ve had a nice experience in a nice neighbourhood. But what a shame that you’re experience of the evangelical movement in the US is so blinkered that you can’t see the truth in what the author has laid out in her thesis.
82% of them voted for Trump and that large group of evangelicals had to turn themselves into moral knots to justify Trump. Individually, they are wonderful; but as a political beast, they are extremely compromised. They are also deeply rooted in white nationalism. It is very evident. It is not all, but 82% is a big group to embrace such a vile man as their political leader. It is those same evangelicals who attack CRT, wants to ban BIPOC's perspective of history, and just can't see Democrats as possibly being Christian. They call them communists. Why did so many white evangelicals attack "black lives matter" without having a clue about what CRT really is, they attacked it. It is not all, but there is an overwhelming mass that is white nationalists and they seriously need to listen to this book! There is a lot of darkness there. The patriarchy comes out with purity culture and women submitting to their husbands and women not being allowed to preach or be leaders in the church. It is more subtle these days, but it is deeply ingrained. It is how SBC kept a database of 200 plus pages which listed all their ministers accused of sexual abuse. That was all kept hidden and the ministers were protected. Not one of them was turned into police. It is not blatant, but that misogyny is deeply ingrained. Just watch what they politically attack.
Evil
Barack Obama was raised as a Muslim in Indonesia in accordance with the country's laws for their schools and in the faith of his stepfather, prior to moving to Hawaii with his Caucasian grandparents. This is not some birther tall tale about where he was born. The Christian pastor that Barack Obama chose when living as an adult in Chicago was not known for the kind of Christian values many traditional Christians subscribe to. In the first 10 minutes of listening to this, I hear people extrapolating from the flimsiest information and doing the typical mind reading trick of talking about what other people think and want and intend that no one can possibly know. Being an Evangelical Christian does not make you God. Just because a bunch of ideas are attractive and interesting does not make them true. I'm not going to read this book because I've been paying very close attention over the last 6 years and the only divisive language I heard was coming out of the mouths of illiberal liberals and far-left political opponents who sought to increase their power and influence by damaging the ability of Donald Trump and his administration to try something different, which was why he was elected. At the time of the 2016 elections The Establishment had been rejected and the Democrat top candidate was Bernie Sanders who was not even registered as a Democrat. On the other end of the spectrum was Donald Trump who had been registered as a Democrat but who had no political experience and no experience even working for a company that was not his own family's firm oh, so there was a lot rules and norms and ways of doing things of which she had no understanding. People tried to overturn his 2016 election, promising to impeach him from day one and investigating him and trying to criminalize routine associations through his entire term. The divisive statements were from the leaders of the Democrat Party. The hate was palpable. They said he was a demagogue and compared him to Hitler when most of his official speeches were conducted in a monotone. He allowed the governors of the states to handle the pandemic as they saw fit. It wasn't until was installed into power when the mandates and other dictatorial decrees or imposed on American people
It wasn't until Joe Biden was installed that we got National mandates and nurses and doctors who had struggled heroically to save patients at the risk of their own lives we're fired by the Biden Administration.
Do you support Trump? The last I saw Trumpeepoo had three wives, committed adultery with every wife, grabs women by the privates, and lied every time he opened his mouth. President Obama on the other hand only had one scandal and that is when he wore a tan suit, whereas, Trump tried to shred our constitution. President Obama is a loving father and husband who doesn't cheat on his wife. The same is true about President Biden as well. Happily married and faithful. No scandal! Oh yea, President Obama married one woman his whole adult life! President Biden is a solid Christian who really cares about people. He went into politics when it was all about public service, not self-centered aggrandizement like Trump! Now, which one do the white evangelical right-wingers embrace? The one with character or the one that grabs women by the privates? Uhm...which one actually has Christian morals? Trump or Obama? If you are actually honest, the one who lives his life like a Christian isn't the one white evangelicals support. They like the corrupt lying narcissist known as Trump. Uhm, I'd say we have a real problem with hypocrisy and BS in the white evangelical movement. Oh yea, it is white evangelicals who are embracing white nationalism/supremacy!! It is white evangelicals who love their damn guns and support weapons made for mass murder. Uhm...I'd say we white evangelicals idolize John Wayne much more than Jesus!! And nobody treats the marginalized as poorly as white evangelicals especially if they are BIPOC or LGBTQ+ Honey, we in the white evangelical movement are in serious trouble. Arrogant and judgmental hypocrites! We have some serious repentance to do but we prefer living in denial. If you prefer Trump to Obama, you seriously need to read her book!! By the way, White evangelicals really don't like this book because they are white nationalists at heart who feel threatened that BIPOC communities now have the same rights and get the same power as us whites. At the heart, a large majority of white evangelicals are white nationalists/supremacists at their core and feel very threatened by the fact that we are quickly becoming the minority of minorities. I say Boo Hoo and I have the smallest violin to play for us! We also have no confidence in our faith because we are fearful of all these other faiths in America! What fearful wimps we really have become! We don't live life in faith. We live in fear because white evangelicals have not learned that perfect love casts out fear. We feel more powerful by making imaginary enemies of the other and keeping anyone who does not look like us, think like us or god forbid not vote like us under our control. We don't like to feel uncomfortable with the other. Sorry, that is NOT Jesus! That is just insecure irrational fear!! American white evangelicals make every decision based on fear. We DON"T live by faith and that reality is very evident to everyone else! Our religion in our society has become nothing but a resounding gong and clanging cymbals! We no longer see the truth so no one can trust our words or our actions. The salt has seriously lost its savor and we have no light because we are busy roaming around lost in our own self-made darkness. We foolishly think a loud mouth corrupt right-wing politician is going to save us. Silly us! Nothing like mixing our political idolatry with our religion. We just prefer John Wayne to Jesus. No big deal, right?
By the way, a big-mouth bully does not mean strength. Do you know who makes the best leaders? It is the quiet, humble people who actually are honest and care. They lead by example. Big mouth bullies only lead by their manipulative charisma and an iron fist!! I'll take a monotone voice to a BS liar any day of the week.
It is funny how quickly white evangelicals manipulate words and jump on the "hate" bandwagon when they are called to account or made to feel uncomfortable. (it is an obnoxious emotional manipulation by the way! Something we white evangelicals have been taught to do from the cradle). If we don't like what someone says call it hateful or that they must be going to hell. We do that really well as white evangelicals. Funny how that works. It is all a smokescreen and trying to pretend you have the higher moral argument. White evangelicals like their white status quo way more than they want the truth. Calling one to accountability is not hate. It is speaking the truth to those who have chosen to be pretty blind to reality or just don't know. It is so deeply ingrained in our culture that one just doesn't know how really racist our nation still is and the real problem with systemic racism that is in our very roots. This kind of racism is not a pointing of the finger, you are a racist and evil. It is now below the surface embedded in the very systems of our society and government. We fixed the external blatant racism with the civil rights act, but now we have all the webs of racism in our society below the surface that affects every system in our culture. The 1960's civil rights are anti-racism 1.0. Now we are going for the harder stuff deeply ingrained in our society. It is anti-racism 2.0. You call it hate when a whole marginalized group of people is calling out for the same rights you obtain so easily being white. Yea, you don't like it because they dare talk about racism which is as deeply embedded as misogyny in the white evangelical church. Watch January 6th - it is very evident white evangelicals have a serious issue with race! They want it white and they want to stay in power. By the way, especially southern white evangelicalism is a slaveholder's religion and it is deeply rooted in our white evangelical psyche! Time to shake it up, face the truth, and repent so our faith and our nation can heal. No cheap, sloppy agape. I mean real repentance and healing! What is not faced can't be changed!!! Until we do, we are no different from the rest of our society! I think secretly we like those tiki torches. You know there are fine people on both sides of those tiki torches. I mean we didn't like Robert E Lee coming down off his horse in the public square and we hated when they took down the traitor's flag off the North Carolina's capitol flag pole! But, no it is not us with the hate or with race issues. There is nothing to be seen here at all. We are perfect. It is the other who is the sinner. It can't be us with the sin problem. It is the evil them! They have the hate and we are just innocent victims being persecuted for our faith. NOT!!!
Barack Obama was not raised a muslim. I think you are one of those Evangelical frauds who hate Jesus and Jesus Hesus for political power