The Complicated Mess Of Jimmy Jr. | Bob's Burgers Deep Dive | Friends of Tina Pt. 3
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- Jimmy jr. is an interesting case in the Bob's burgers universe. Most people either hate him or have a love/hate for him. Either way, Jimmy's a notorious heartbreaker with surprisingly good taste in movies and music. Today we go on a deep dive into his character and explore everything involving his life. From his family, to his friends, and especially Tina.
--Timestamps --
Introducing Jimmy Jr. 00:00
Andy and Ollie 01:44
Jimmy's Mom 06:00
Jimmy Pesto 06:43
Jimmy's School Life 14:06
His Bromance With Zeke 17:50
Jimmy's Love Life 23:48
Jimmy's Sweet Side 26:11
Jimmy's Sour Side 30:41
Why They Don't Work 43:58
Tina's Role In This Mess 49:07
Conclusion 58:35 - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Thank you guys so much for watching! This video took a while and was a lot longer than I intended it to be but I like the end result! Jimmy jr was highly requested and for good reason. I hope you guys enjoy watching this hour long video. If you want you can tell me your favorite Jimmy jr moments or catch phrases down below 🧡💙
*Also there seems to be people who think I was implying bisexual people have no romantic attraction. Which I never said. I was trying to say that he may be Jimmy may be aro but he might also be bisexual or gay. I was listing off different identities people have speculated for Jimmy to possibly be. Those are the 3 suggestions I see the most. If he has romantic interests gay/bi (Due to his interactions with Zeke and Tina). But if not then aro. I just wanted to clear up that I know the difference between sexual and romantic attraction. I should've worded it better.
I'm 100% Team Zeke for Tina, but I do sometimes like Jimmy Jr. I thought him trying to 'win back' Zeke during the double-butt episode was pretty funny, and I genuinely felt sorry for him during Spencer Whatshisname's Modern Dance Seminar.
I am the oldest of a lot of siblings, so I'm coming from the perspective of an older sister. I have siblings in every age range from kids to adult siblings. And even then, I can say it's abnormal to not even say the name of your siblings. Do we always get along? No. Do we embrass each other? Of course. But we're siblings at the end of the day. We acknowledge each other no matter how big or small our age differences were. So, that's why to me its weird that he doesn't even so much as complain about them to his friends. In 14 season he's barely mentioned his brothers. They don't have to get along but it shouldn't feel like Jimmy Jr is an only child. The amount of people who didn't even know they were related is kind of mind blowing.
So I do get that to some people its normal to ignore your siblings. Trust me, I understand that very well. However, I think this is more of a case of the show underutilizing a potentially interesting family dynamic. Just to be clear, I'm not trying to argue or anything like that. You're experience is more than valid for sure. I'm just explaining how its abnormal from my prospective. Pretending my siblings don't exist was never really an option for me as the oldest, so it was surprising to me personally.
@TersTrippyTV I wonder if it's because Andy & Ollie are so tightly wrapped up in each other? There's an episode (I think the one where Louise is principal for a day) where Jimmy bewails not having his own twin. They don't need him - they have each other - so he never plays, hangs out with, or generally brothers them because they've got all that covered in their weird codependent dynamic 😅Perhaps he feels excluded, and responds by excluding them in turn.
Can't believe I'm defending Jimmy Jr - he's my least favourite character after Cynthia and Jimmy Pesto!
I actually do agree that he feels excluded from them. I do think that you have a solid theory honestly. My thing is that since he's older, I do think that its up to him to try to break the ice. If Louise can find a way to be friends with them and spend time with them then Jimmy could try if he wants to. Andy and Ollie are actually super friendly kids so its not hard to spend time with them as long as they get to stay together at all times lol. All Jimmy has to do is ask and they'll hang out with him no doubt. Plus I do think Andy and Ollie looks up to Jimmy. They call him "our big brother" or they want him to hold their hands when they cross the street. They even openly love their dad even though he kind of ignores them too. So I personally think those two would love to spend time with Jimmy Jr. Either way we need more episode about their family life. I want to know what goes on in the Pesto household.
Also I get it lol. He is nowhere near my favorite character either. Defending him is weird for to me too! But when I do these videos I find that being empathetic towards the characters can open new perspectives. Even if you can't stand them lol
Tina having a crush on someone who's mostly cold with her but occasionally gives her the attention she craves is something i find extremely relatable especially at her age.
So real for that
I was like that when I was Tina's age. It honestly wrecked me for a long time, but in the end, I learned how not to be in relationships and recognize my own self-worth.
@@Daughter_ofStars can you give some pointers about that? I'm still sorta dealing with this. Kinda embarrassing when I'm still struggling with it coming into my 30s
@VilliageSquidiot There's nothing to be embarrassed about! Everyone has their time for self growth, and it never stops. :) When I got out of my last relationship, I focused more on myself and began to realize how much of myself I willingly gave away for the sake of making my partner happy. I pined for attention, sacrificed my own happiness and wellbeing so I could always put them first, and allowed myself to be treated badly because I thought it was what I deserved.
But you have to realize how priceless you are. Don't sacrifice yourself for the sake of always putting someone else first. It's okay to be selfish sometimes and decide that you deserve better or that you need to put your own priorities first.
Don't let the Jimmy Jr's of the world try to dim your light to make theirs shine brighter. You are amazing. 💕
I really hate him... for Tina
As a character, he is a sweetie, most of the time. But as a love interest... no
I despise him as Tina's boyfriend. I will always support ZekexTina because THAT is where the true romance exists!
Agreed! Like Jimmy Jr. and Tina *DO* have cute moments together but Jimmy's behavior toward her sours their relationship potential for me
Same!👍🏾
I feel like a bad guy for shipping jimmy jr and tina 😂
You shouldn't, but you should reevaluate your personal standards of what you want in a relationship. Look at things as if you were tina when he says them and ask yourself if youd really tolerate that treatment.@@salty_4275
"Damn, Tina. Now I got a story to tell on our wedding day. You think that's not gonna happen, but I'll get you, girl. I'm gonna getcha"
From what I gathered, Gene is also an artsy kid who favors music, but Bob doesn't shame Gene for his interests and Linda joins in with Gene's musical antics. Whereas Jimmy Jr's only creative supporter, his mom, doesnt live with them; and Jimmy Pesto is an asshole. Definitely tracks that he would want the creative freedom Gene is granted inside and outside the home.
I think that is the biggest reason why Jimmy is jealous of Gene. Gene is allowed to be more open with his interests and emotions. I think him and Bob also having a semi-close relationship also helps that. He gets to have his mom much more active in his life too
Unless i'm not remembering an episode wasn't the only time he was really jealous of Gene was that two butted goat episode? I mean i'd be a little jealous if my best friend Suddenly hung out with someone else like that, especially at his age. But that could be true im still on season 9 tho
Jimmy Jr. probably is quite sad. Apparently his parents are probably divorced, his brothers probably have, er, problems, and he isn't as close to them as the Belcher children are. Bob and his family have MUCH more than probably everyone in town, it seems: love, and THAT is the key to a good life... 😏
I thought the mom was dead? Maybe I missed a divorce ref somewhere. Just kinda thought she was dead.
@@user-cv8qe9ru8ctheres an episode where he refers to his mum picking him up (its the episode about him doing dance classes with a guy in the industry and being disheartened)
@@user-cv8qe9ru8c Yep, def divorced, Jimmy and the twins have all mentioned staying at there mums or getting presents from her.
@@Parasolhyena also Jimmy Jr mentions his moms new boyfriend a few times, i think
The entire cast is very neurodivergent coded
I actually really like Jimmy Jr as a character.
He's a very typical young teen boy, especially with the type of dad he has. I appreciate the layers they show of him.
Also I'm SO glad you mentioned his nonexistent relationship with his brothers, like he literally doesn't even say their names ever! 😭 his relationship with Zeke also has other layers because of this, which you touched on really well
when he hits that ego death he’ll have empathy for them😭
51:09. I always took Tina's obsession with Jimmy as a kind of.........it was more the idea of Jimmy Junior then the actual reality of him. The movie seemed to kind of touch on this, but Jimmy is a tall, good looking guy in her school who is popular. He can also SEEM like a boy more in touch with his feelings as he likes art and dance, and there's also a touch of rebellion in her romance with him because of his family life. I mean if you examine like EVERY piece of young adult or teen media that has been released around Bob's burgers and if you were absorbed in said kind of media (which it is implied Tina is) that is who she would THINK she is supposed to like and/or the romance that she should be pursuing.
Agreed
The only reason he held Zeke accountable is because the kid he used to bully was like Jimmy Jr (speech impediment)
I feel like Tina's frustration at Zeke is partly fueled by her having this ideal that jimmy jr is supposed to be the one who is nice and treats her well, but just isnt. She's chasing a fantasy the whole time and zeke is getting in the way of that by not upholding what she desires from their group dynamic (i.e. for jimmy to be her knight in shining armor and for her to be prioritized above zeke)
Surprised when you brought up Jimmy and Tina racing during the mile run, Jimmy uses his arms way too much, and Tina doesn't move her arms at all. Pretty big visual clue how opposite they are.
I feel like Jimmy Jr. Probably grew up idolizing his father before he was old enough to understand what was happening. I also would not be surprised if Jimmy Jr. Turned out to be gay or bisexual and his womanizing tendencies are to cover up his feelings and to earn his father’s love.
I feel like Bisexual tbh. There's times where he does like Tina but I think the fear and confusion towards his own feelings leaves a lot up in the air and it is why he disappears so much
I really feel like once tina gets over him n realizes her self worth, Zeke would be a perfect endgame. Especially since the fanbase already loves him and loves the tension n underlying romance with them even if right now its one-sided
There was so many times that we get alot of Zeke/Tina moments!
And while rewatching I think I overthink sometimes but Zeke does have some interest into what Tina says more then when Jimmy Jr. would care to listen.
Zeke even mentioned about it in "The Oeder Games"
I really want to like Jimmy Jr, but he's such a self-absorbed jerk around Tina. I hope he grows up a bit and sorts through this sooner rather than later.
"babe, wake up. New Bob's Burgers deep-dive on Ter's Trippy TV just dropped." 😍
“she puts all her eggs in a poorly made dirty ass basket” LMAO TRUE
honestly i believed jimmy jrs character arc was delving more into a closeted/queer storyline, like he's attempting to emulate his dads relationship with women as a cover because he doesn't know how to express what he feels, it also explains how he only seems interested in Tina when it's about his social image or when another man is involved as a way to show how masculine he is as his dad often emasculates him due to his queer coded interests, alongside explaining why he never commits with women he seems to 'like' (similar with his dad and how he uses women to elevate his image) however something a little more obvious is the multiple Footlose references (made both by jimmy and the shows writing), which is commonly seen as a metaphor for being closeted in a small town, and with the clear link to Jimmys own passions and his relationship with Pesto, it becomes an almost explicit and consistent reference to what is widely considered as queer media portraying a closeted kid with an unsupporting family, this coding is also supported with his almost obsessive relationship with zeke which i struggle to see as sibling-like, as the feelings seem mutual, although more dependant on jimmys side, which paired with the other narratives makes it seem like their relationship is almost experimental, with Jimmy failing to be close with others like he is with zeke despite multiple options to pursue romantically/platonically, jimmy always chooses zeke, while zeke is shown to love jimmy, though still have genuine romance and relationships outside him
I actually really love this interpretation and think it should be canon because I think it could save Jimmy Jr's character (imo).
It's a never ending circle then. Tina>Jimmy Jr > Zeke>Tina.
100%. His relationship with Zeke gets me the most. I’m bisexual and had a similarly intense friendship when I was his age (definitely a huge crush). And while Zeke seems interested in romance with Tina, Jimmy Jr seems only interested in Zeke. Whether or not this ever gets to addressed in the show, it definitely seems like the story they’re setting up. We just gotta remember that they’re all still kids and messy AF. Lmao
I have hope for Zeke and Tina, and almost none for Jimmy, romantically. Otherwise, I think they're such fun characters! Jimmy's dancing is relatable and fun, probably because it's his PASSION. 😄
Tina x Zeke needs more screen time
Jimmy truly just gives me 12-14 year old boy lmao. He’s not mature and i don’t expect him to be. Given who his dad is i’m surprised he’s not completely awful. He’s not a great love interest for Tina but i find that realistic. People get crushes on less than stellar people all the time, especially those early crushes when you’re figuring out what you like, who you are etc.
Realistic, Yes. But at the same time also frustrating in a 14 season long show. Because characters in animated shows like this don't age or grow up, certain dynamics in a show always run the risk of becoming stale. Which is kind of what happens here. So thats why to me their ages matter but at the same time it doesn't because their gonna be 13 forever. So while it's was realistic and relatable in the first half of the show, at a certain point it got old. Its also realistic to move on from people you thought was so great at one point.
the thing is that clearly there are writers that ship him and Tina, while others don't so his relationship with her depends on the episode, makes it hard to have a clear idea of him
You're totally right
Ugh, *PLEASE* keep uploading Bob's Burgers video essays bc no one's doing it like you. I totally agree that Jimmy Jr's superior as a platonic friend to Tina rather than as a love interest.
I would say Zeke is the closest competition we've had since Josh, especially in the later seasons as she outgrew being mean to him as the series has gone on tbh. That being said, I do agree that she needs to date other people.
I've been showing my brother Bobs Burgers, and we watched an episode where Jimmy Jr acknowledges Andy and Ollie and my brother was like "wait??? they're related?"
I never connected the way he treats Tina and the example his dad sets.
And yes, Jimmy jr would be willing to live with his dad to keep going to his school. Losing Zeke would hurt to much. Which is super sad.
Great video 👍
I adore Jimmy Jr. as a character, but my God he is the worst boyfriend for Tina. He really just doesn’t seem like he’s emotionally ready to be dating people because he does the dumbest shit to the girl and ends up hurting their feelings but doesn’t seem to grasp why. But he seems like a sweet kid overall and he’s definitely a good friend most of the time so I have no problems with him outside of his life really
Bobs burgers is my ultimate comfort show… I can’t believe I haven’t come across a channel that does deep dives on it! Keep up the good work!
Also, I never really noticed that Jimmy Jr doesn’t interact with his brothers much. I totally want an episode where we get some sweet moments between him and andy and olie.
The biggest problem with Jimmy Jr is he’s turning into his dad. He see the way his dad just uses people, and appears happy so he does the same. You can’t tell me he didnt see the way his dad treats his mom & translated that to how he treats Tina. He see the way his dad treats Trevor & assumes that’s how he & Zeke should be. So when his sidekick tries to do something else, he doesn’t know how to process it.
I like Jimmy Jr. a good bit but I agree that the situationship with Tina has ran it's course. Jimmy needs episodes that tackle his family issues and relationship with Zeke over any romantic ones, at least for now. And Tina needs an actual rival for her attention. If they're planning on them being endgame then they need to grow apart.
YASSS I agree with the grow apart storyline. I think it is the most realistic and I think it would cause Jimmy to do a lot of reflecting. I can see them as endgame if he stops taking his parental issues out on Tina
i really do think most if not all of jimmy jr's behaviour would be explained by him not being attracted to girls but experiencing compulsive heterosexuality. he's pressured by his dad to conform to who his dad wants him to be - not "artsy", and "like him", and womanising/treating women poorly is part of his dad's character. therefore when it comes to dating, jimmy jr is both mimicking his father's behaviour and trying to live up to societal expectations. like, the times he's shown the most active interest in tina are a) when it's a novelty or a rite of passage that he needs A Girl to engage in with, b) when she's not physically there with him so he can emotionally connect with her without having to think about how he's not physically attracted to her, and c) when somebody else is interested in her, which is when it seems like he's motivated by the fear of losing her as a safe option. you could say that's just because he doesn't want to lose his ego boost, but i think it's very helpful and convenient for him to have a girl he knows is always interested who he can call upon whenever he needs to play a heterosexual role, who lets him drop her once she's fulfilled that need. she's a real safety net for him in terms of appearing straight. oh, and d) when she's mean to him/seems uninterested. this ties in with both a) and c), and it's also that that disinterest is an added layer of safety. as a mostly asexual person i have only ever been interested in people i know i don't have a chance with haha, it's a protection from having to act on it. it's easier for him to actively pursue her when she's created distance between them, because it seems like there's less likelihood of it going too far.
i see comphet in how he treats becky as well. it reads like "oh now everyone's saying she's cute, if i'm the one to go out with her it says something about my masculinity and affirms my heterosexuality" but then he's not into it on the date - seems like he didn't even want to go, since he was so late. it's also why using tina's picture frame wouldn't register as definitively callous to him because he doesn't attach the same meaning to it, even if he knows tina does. it's all just a vehicle for performing heterosexuality, so to him it doesn't matter which girl's picture is in it. that wouldn't absolve him of how he treats girls, but explaining it as learned behaviour from his dad combined with covering his sexuality makes it sit better for me lol.
i can see reading him as asexual, and maybe i'd land there if it weren't for zeke. i don't see the way jimmy jr feels about zeke as brotherly at all (i'm not sure that jju would even have a real understanding of a usual brotherly dynamic lol). the intensity he displays towards zeke is unlike anything he shows for anyone else, and possibly that's to do with how zeke uplifts him - but tina does the same. the way he cares SO MUCH about zeke while not caring much at all about tina as an actual person means that zeke and tina act as foils to each other in terms of jimmy's actual affections.
and he reminds me of myself when i was a kid, being so obsessed with and possessive of same sex friends without realising i had crushes on them. jju doesn't have commitment issues when it comes to zeke, he wants zeke with him forever. and his jealousy of gene is interesting given that gene is the show's most queer coded character, who is allowed the freedom to express himself. gene represents everything jju wants: a supportive family, freedom, the ability to ignore societal expectations, and i can see him worrying that zeke might prefer someone like that.
and on that - rather than stereotypes, i would say the show leans heavily on queer coding. for jimmy jr the big two are 1) dancing - men dancing has long been associated with queerness in tv/movies (which is not to say that dancing is gay, or that that's a valid stereotype irl, but that it is used as a shorthand in media); jju expresses himself through dance and he wants to be free to do so, but his dad doesn't approve and wants him to be more masculine. and 2) wrestling with zeke, which is essentially "you construct intricate rituals to allow yourself to touch other men" lmao. it's metaphorically interesting how often scenes devolve into zeke and jju rolling around together, especially during scenes where he was talking to tina. it's a sharp contrast: the societal rituals he's supposed to perform, and the one he really wants to. even his protests go into that! because he's trying to be seen as straight and zeke pulling him in to wrestle disrupts that.
dear god i could analyse this all day. basically it's not that i wouldn't be surprised if jimmy jr was gay - it's that i think there is a clear, valid reading for it in the show, possibly on purpose, and that everything that is already in the show explains why he behaves the way he does. of course you could always just read him as a shitty, troubled, confused teenage boy who doesn't like tina as much as she wants but likes the ego boost/doesn't want to lose her entirely. i understand why people see that, and i understand why some might think that he is sometimes into her. i just think it's completely possible that she's just an easy way for him to live up to societal expectations. (oh and there's another interesting element in that even though part of dating tina is trying to conform to his father's expectations, he's doing so with the one girl his father would prefer he not date. it's defiant, almost, as if he's trying to spite his dad. sort of a "fuck you for making me do this", "maybe i have to behave like you, but i'm going to do it in a way you won't like".)
and it completely doesn't absolve him, it's not okay that tina (and other girls) are just collateral damage. but it does make him easier to understand and a more sympathetic character. and maybe i'm totally wrong, but i don't really care; queer coding is real, and this explains all of his choices better than anything else imo. he's not a callous and cruel character, and he genuinely does like tina as a friend, so i don't think him just using her as an ego boost really holds up to his characterisation overall.
Thank you for writing this, your analysis is spot on!
"I ain't reading all that" I'm definitely gonna read all that
4:28 "HE NEEDS HELP!" My favorite J-ju and Zeke moment
Man I can't wait until you do Tammy
And JOCELYN! And their friendship (all the passive aggressive digs 😂 get me)
She’s so awful but I love it when she gets her comeuppance
I always assumed jimmy is gay/ace. He seems to mostly date girls because hes "supposed to". He gets dates to the dance because...thats what you do. He gets a date for events where other kids are going to have dates. Like tina has gone on dates outside of school with other guys. We never hear about jimmy doing that.
Him and tina kissed a few times, but its always her seeing fireworks and him being like "ok cool".
Id hate him if he was chasing other girls and leading tina on, but you never hear him mention other girls bodies or personalities. He only wants a dance and wrestle with zeke.
Something else I'd like to point out is that the only way Jimmy Pesto Sr. could have majority custody of Jimmy Jr. and his brothers, despite his obvious neglect and inability to parent, is if Jimmy's mom straight up told the court she didn't want custody of the kids. So not only is Jimmy Jr. dealing with a bad father figure, but he is dealing with a mother who regrets having him. Which would also explain why he treats Tina the way he does.
Tina is like Bob and Zeke is like Linda
Absolutely agree
Honestly you hit the nail on the head. Allot of my issues with Jimmy Jr are exclusively how he strings Tina along. (As you said the way Tina is written doesn't help the situation either.)
But i wish the writers would just drop the stupid 'will they, won't they,' thing as its really not needed. And there are plenty of other things they can do with him outside of just being Tina's love interest. He legit has no character outside that. Show his relationship with his mum, show him excel in his dancing e.g. maybe he gets a part in a theatre show, maybe he and Josh could even bond over their love of dance, give him more moments with his brothers. E.g. maybe the reason Andy and Ollie are so co-dependent is because they feel like he doesn't even like them, maybe they say have a moment where they say something like 'why can't we be as close at Tina, Gene and Louise are.'
Literally anything but continuing the constant relationship thing.
His name is JIMMY PESTO JR. Of course he hates his dad. Jimmy sees his 14 YEAR OLD CHILD as an extension of himself.
I think he’s a people pleaser. He doesn’t seem interested in romance at all but just goes with it because he craves whatever affection he can get.
I almost want to see a little arc where Jimmy does actually meet a girl he genuinely likes and starts dating for real, where he is actively engaged in the relationship. It would be a bit of a role reversal, Tina is usually the one moving on and getting roped back but now Tina is trying to rope Jimmy back, but it doesn't work and she realizes that she really is better off without him leading her on. Maybe keep that for a good few episodes where Tina is getting over him. She finds another boyfriend but Jimmy gets jealous and his new girlfriend breaks up with him over it, but Tina doesn't come back, and puts her foot down instead. She's done it before, it just never really lasts for long.
My hc for why Jimmy jr treats women like garbage is bc he isn't really interested. I think he dates girls because that's what he thinks he's supposed to do, but I don't think he really wants to.
I could see that
Great video! I'm hoping we get a Pesto episode like the Rudy one we got this season.
Totally agree! I hope we get to meet his mom eventually
Me and my friend were thinking the same thing! His home life must be rough I’d love an episode focused deeper on tgat
I loved every point you made, I’m caught up in the show and never fully realized how little Jimmy Jr. mentions his brothers
You’ve truly dissected his character so well!!
God I am STILL salty about the writers dedicating an entire episode to get rid of Josh as a romantic option
Actually had no clue Jimmy was related to Andy and Ollie
I only knew because in the first episode of season 2 they call Pesto their dad
I've always wanted to see an episode where Jimmy Jr. is paired with Teddy! It always stuck with me how in Teddy's imaginary family scenario from "Bob Fires the Kids" he says his imaginary son "Jeremy" is his favorite because "he needs him the most. The twins have each other", which is basically what the Pesto kids dynamic is. It's such a bittersweet thing for Teddy to say and I doubt the writers even thought of it that way (especially considering how long it has been) but I just think it would be interesting/sweet to see Teddy interacting with the Pesto kids and maybe get him to care deeply about everything Jimmy Pesto takes for granted. And it would be an opportunity to give Jimmy Jr. a really caring parental figure he could look up to.
So glad I found you channel. Bob’s Burger is one of my comfort shows I like how it is very different from other adult animation. While others have horrible parents. I love how Bob and Linda are just fun parents going through the motion of parenthood with such outspoken kids
no i could talk sm about how the pesto family is a deliberate contrast to the belchers bc of the distance and stuff
I’m so glad I discovered this channel, this show is literally one of my favourites and I’m glad it still gets talked about. Fantastic video!💛
50:54 OMG NOW I NEED TO A VIDEO ABOUT ARNOLD AND HELGA!!!! I think It would be interesting to analyze how Arnold fell in love with Helga. And about Helga... omg she is a very deep character! definitely a character that needs analyzing
I recommend @DuskTillShawn if you haven't checked him out yet! He makes long videos on hey Arnold characters and he did a great one on Helga. I may do one someday but you want to watch some videos now, his channel is the way to go.
I love your content omg!!! Just saw one of your vids for the first time last week and now I’m OBSESSED and jimmy jr is one of my favs! Love his weird noodle arms dancing😂😂 also I can’t wait for pt 2 of your gene series he’s my favorite fruity boy!
I have been binging your videos! I love a good video essay. I enjoy hearing people’s thoughts and takes on a lot of different medias. You’re so invested and nice to listen too. You give off number 5 vibes for sure. Excited for future content!
So happy to hear there is a Zeke video! He’s such a sweetie. 😊
I wish there was this much content for a video on Marshmallow
so happy this was recommended literally my new fave channel thank you for your service
This is a really cool video! I’ve never really thought about Jimmy Jr. much, but it’s cool to see all his different layers, the good and bad.
i’ve been binge watching all your bobs burgers videos!!! so stoked for when you deep-dive Tammy
so excited! love your videos, especially at night when i’m trying to wind down!
I was literally playing stardew when you made that reference😂 and i always think about this too cuz demetrius is so proud of maru but he doesnt say diddly squat about sebastian😭
I love the attention you gave to Jimmy Pesto being a horrible dad and setting a bad example for his son in terms of relationships and women. Jimmy Jr. seems to have a modicum of respect more for Tina than his dad has for other women, but not enough for them to work as a couple. In fact, the dude needs a LOT of therapy or at least a better role model before he can be in any relationship. Being a bystander, letting Tammy pick on Tina, his apathy towards his brothers, Zeke is his only functional relationship and in that case Jimmy Jr. is pretty clingy and it's easy to see why.
(And yes, I ship it too.)
Honestly so much of Jimmy Jr.'s issues can be traced back to his home life. Unsupportive dad, a mom he doesn't get to see that often aside from her driving him to dance classes, no relationship with his brothers, we need an episode where he ends up staying with the Belchers and gets a taste of what a REAL family is like.
This got me through a long bus ride! Thank you for your hard work
Re: Jimmy Jr.'s stance on bullying.
I think the reason Jimmy Jr. doesn't stand up to Tammy (from a writing standpoint) is that the episode isn't often about Jimmy Jr. and his growth or learning. I think Jimmy Jr.'s role in the show is, 9 times out of 10, to be part of a representation of peer pressure for Tina, especially in episodes where Tammy is bullying her. When he stands up to Zeke's bullying, it's because the episode is partially about him learning and growing as a person in some capacity. He's one of the main characters of that episode rather than a side character who frames the learning and growing for the main character.
Within the show's universe, I would theorize that Jimmy Jr. doesn't stand up to Tammy's bullying for a couple of reasons. Firstly, she's a friend, but not a close friend. I think Jimmy Jr., being a 13 year old kid, probably doesn't want to deal with the fallout of calling someone like Tammy out. Zeke is different because A. he's Jimmy Jr.'s best friend and Jimmy Jr. has more emotional investment in Zeke as a person and B. Zeke made fun of another kid's speech impediment, which hits MUCH closer to home to Jimmy Jr. than any of Tammy's bullying.
Additionally, given Jimmy Pesto Sr.'s attitude toward women, it could be that Jimmy Jr. sees Tammy's bullying as "normal" cattiness rather than capital-B Bullying. "Of course Tammy is making fun of Tina. That's how Dad says girls are." Or even possibly (since we don't have much context regarding the Pesto kids' mom), "Of course Tammy is making fun of Tina. Mom said stuff like that about Dad's girlfriends all the time."
I understand why he doesn't in the context of the episodes, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of his morals as a person. No matter what reasons he could have to excuse Tammy but not Zeke, bullying is bullying. He only cared when it was effected his inner circle. Thats why I used it as an example of how Jimmy Jr usually operates in a morally gray area. For contrast, Louise as always hated bullies. She tends to stand of for people even if she's not particularly close to them. She even had an episode questioning if it was worth sticking up for people if she's going to keep getting in trouble for it.
Personally, I like to focus on just the characters in my video rather than analyze the writing or themes of an episode. So I don't tend to focus on what he represents or his role in the overall story. Instead I find it more fun to talk about him as a person in universe. I try not to theorize too much in my videos and just focus on events that happen in the show if that makes sense. There's 100 ways people can interpret his actions or reasoning so I just leave it to the viewer's to come to their own conclusions or theories about him. I don't want to rationalize everything he does because that can come off as making excuses for his bad actions. But at the same time he's young so I don't want to bash him and write him off as horrible. So I try to keep it balanced between accountability and understanding. Hope that makes sense
@@TersTrippyTV For sure! I wasn't trying to criticize your approach in your video or anything like that. I just enjoy discourse around my favorite shows and bringing my own thoughts to the table. I really like the video and I hope I didn't come across as rude. 😊
Oh of course not! I liked your comment. It was an interesting way to look at things. I was just explaining my approach thats all. I actually might do some videos revolving around a theme instead of a character now that you gave me the idea.
This was so so so well done! Thank you!
I agree with you and think Jimmy doesn’t genuinely *like* like anyone but his insecurity and need to fit in is why he pursues Tina when she’s interested in someone else. I also think Zeke knows this.
He’s seen enough of their dynamic that he will keep his crush to himself in order to not making Jimmy uncomfortable, but is also comfortable doing this knowing that this on and off pattern means there’s probably a decent chance for him when they’re older and things have settled.
Zeke has this really odd and interesting mature streak with how comfortable he is in himself and where he sees his future going.
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It's hard to think much about Jimmy Junior for me, because it always felt like the joke of his character is that he was a basic, uninteresting guy that Tina was obsessed with for some reason. I never really thought of him as a good or bad character, really, just a character who was there.
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Really enjoyed this analysis. Makes me want to watch all of Bob's Burgers. It is such a good show from what I've seen.
It's understandable if Jimmy Jr. doesn't like Tina or isn't ready for a relationship, but he should make that clear instead of playing with her. As you pointed out Jimmy Jr. usually expresses more interest in Tina when she's being pursued/pursuing other options.
They are both still teenagers and you reslly highlighted his sad family life, which I was only vaguely aware of. I could go either way on the ship depending on how it's written, but in general dislike "will they-wont they" style plots.
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Jimmy Jr's brothers are a complete set together without him.
As a multiple, I've listened to my non-multiple, older sister tell me about how envious and left-out she felt from not being one of the multiples. No matter how close she was, we were always in a lower grade, so we were hanging out at school all day without her. Socially, this made her feel left out because she didn't organically know the classmates, stories, and inside jokes.
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I feel like in regards to Tina and Jimmy juniors relationship they could fix the will they won't they dynamic by making a episode or perhaps a two part episode where some unbiased student becomes a type of peer relationship consular and perhaps this program is sponsored and supervised by mr frond and tina comes in asking what she should do about jimmy junior and the unbiased student says just be upfront with him and tell him your tired of him leading you on and ask him how he truly feels about you.and before tina ask this to her assigned peer counselor she ask her friends and family this could lead to some intresting responses from zeke gene and louise and many othw characters and at the end of the episode have jimmy finally realy think about how he feels about tina.then the second episode they date and see if they really are a good match this could lead to a couple of funny dates and at the end they decide if there a match. it would be really cool if they made it a small musical number like in bob saves the warf but instead of it being about bob almost dying its about how Tina and Jimmy feel for one an another. there could be a b plot on gene and Louise getting peer counslers also peer counseling was exlpored in king of the hill but in a completely different way by bobby using peer counseling to get out of shop class and get with the girls in peer consuling so this potential bobs burgers episode would be a completely new take on peer consuling compared to king of the kill sorry for the long TH-cam comment lol
This was an amazing analisis .
Nice video for today
Like many people in the comment , I liked Jimmy . Jr and I do hope we could have one episode focused solely on him similar to Rudy , but when it comes to romance with Tina , I really don't like them . They both bring out the worst side of each other and clearly work better as casual friends .
I don't mind it in earlier seasons because I could see as Pre-teen still learning about love and life stuff . However , as seasons and years goes by , I'm just tired of it and just hope the statue quo could change for two of them .
4:55 I hope we get an episode about the three of them. Like maybe the first disagreement Andy and Ollie have is one of them starting to actively dislike Jimmy Jr. and no one knows why and the belchers help the pestos figure out why that is.
I've kinda always read the jealousy over zeke thing to be a closeted gay thing is that just me
drinking game: take a shot every time she says Jimmy Jr.
I loved the video! Thxx
“I think everybody’s got a favourite Jimmy Jr phrase”
What if Gods…. Name was Todd..
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I keep getting distracted by your "However" 😅
Is it a running joke? or just the way you say it
Love the vids
To be perfectly honest I have no idea what you mean 😂. I guess it just the way I talk maybe. It could be worse. You guys are lucky I cut out all my stuttering and rambling. I can barely read the script I wrote without stumbling all over it. You guys get the polished version, I have to listen to myself uncut for over 2 hours 😂
When you mention that Jimmy Jr could be aromantic, I can totally believe that 💯 % bc it makes a lot of sense. And that could make a great episode of him coming out, that way Tina and JJ could work, if he is interested/ready.