Argentine 1909 Cavalry Carbine
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In this video we take a look at the Argentine Model 1909 Cavalry Carbine. DOn't let this little rifle fool you, she's a shooter. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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Lots of people use Mausers here in Argentina to hunt with either surplus ammo, Norma or reloads. Those cavalry models are not cheap and pretty hard to find
I love my 7mm Mausers, great shooting beautiful and lots of great history
My first deer rifle was a Cavalry Carbine. I paid $75.00 for it at a feed and seed store in my home town and tracked down some JSP ammo for it at hardware store elsewhere in town. "The Little Mule" as it is/was also known in some circles (and still is today) was very accurate and served my purposes from the mid 1960s to about 1971 when I traded it for a new Winchester '94 in .30-30 not because I liked the .30-30 more than the Mauser's chambering but because it became almost impossible in those pre internet days to find hunting ammo for it. I especially enjoyed this video because of the fond memories I have maintained for that fine little carbine! Keep up the great work you do!
I lived in Argentina for 2 years and grew to love the country. It would be way cool to have one of these.
Nice to see you reviewing a gun from my contry, i used to shoot the full lenght model,they are extremelly accurate rifles. Cheers from Argentina
Please more MILSURP!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Guys, thou art awesometh . That thing was handled by conscripts for forty nine years ('58 is when Argentina adopted the F.A.L.) and even longer than that, federal police was still using them into the seventies, and is possible to think those kids weren't always careful with them rifles. 1400 meters was for plunging fire, like trench to trench or charging cavalry, it wasn't wishful thinking, but a military doctrine adopted by many militaries around the world. Love the sabre, the infantry rifle came along with an impressive bayonet to. Guys keep those milsurp videos coming. Love to see a review of the carb and the full size one side by side. Again, you Georgia boys are A.W.E.S.O.M.E
I love the 1916 Calvary carbine I have from Argentina. It's in 7X57 and the gun just brings it sadly I have to RE-barrel. But none the less a cool piece of history that I was immediately attracted to and knew what it was before I knew what it was.
Sorry to contradict you, James, but 7x57 NEVER was used by our (Argentine) Armed Services. Ours is the 7,65x53 which is magnificent caliber, even Winchester built their Mod 70 in our caliber Unluckily it was not vey popular. Belgium did use it, so did Iran, Peru and Bolivia and some other South American Countries.
7x57 I believe was used by Chile, they had very good Steyr Mausers
@@ruge48 not a problem I rather know then not know. Thank you for correcting my miss information.
If you think the Cavalry carabine mod 1909 kicks, you have to test the 1891 model. She has a shorter barrel, 18 inch, it shoots magnificently but she was nicknamed the "mulita" or little mule. Was my first ever big bore rifle which I sold some years ago. I had mount a Mauser peep sight and was obtaining 1,5 in groups at 150 meters. I was training in those times (1980s ) and we had good ammo. The problem with our service rifles was obtaining consistent ammo. I just bough anothe mulita a couple of months ago, just for the sake of having sux a sexy weapon. The caliber can be compared with the 30.06 favourably. We have resorted to reloading nowadays feeling grateful that America is selling .312 and .311 bullets for the British .303
Magnificent job. I was delighted to see you firing one of ours guns!!!
Let’s see that 1909, I got mine over the summer.
Many years ago. (1972) while home on medical leave I found a few small country stores that were going out of business. Back then if you had a milsurp we were limited to NORMA ammo for 7.65, 6.5 Italian or Swede, 7.5 Swiss, 303 British or 7.62 x 53R. All loaded with soft points for hunting. Having a couple of years of back pay, I bought every box of Norma ammo I could find. A long with a few mil-surps and a few Win M-70's NIB.
Norma ammo makes 7.7 x 58mm arisaka ammo
Saludos desde Argentina 💙💛💙
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Hi guys, Argentina Fabricaciones Militares manufacture that ammo (7,65 mm Argentino), and for sporting uses (soft point).
Non scrubbed crest on the 1909's are pretty common and they were also left in the white from the factory. The 1891's are hard er to find with the crest. Wonderful rifles! Great video!
Estimados colegas: mi humilde experiencia dice que es posible que no estén pegando por el caño encobrado ( lo que hace que disperse mucho) también si es que hace poco que lo tienen deberían revisar la boca del cañón que no esté afectada por alguna pequeña deformación por algún golpe; ya que aquí no se los cuidaba mucho. Un fuerte abrazo desde Argentina 🇦🇷🇺🇸👍
I’ve got a Modelo 1913, rebarreled in ‘61 to 7.62Nato M1A barrel. It holds 2&3/4” pattern @ 300yds on a 10shot group. Bought it for 150ish
Do the modelo 1909 infantry rifle please(full scale). Greetings from Argentina
Very cool that you did this video, the 1909 Calvary dwm arg is one of my first guns, and definitely a favorite gun. Very cool that it's built in same place as the lugers.
That is a very potent hunting round. I killed a caribou out at 378 yards with the 91 Argentine Mauser in 7.65
Lee Enfield SMLE/No 4 lets make it happen!
Terrific video! I believe Norma still offers a load in 7.65 soft points in 180 grains, you can find those down here in Argentina (no cheap stuff though)
The theory is sound. As the barrel heats it expands. Touching almost anywhere differently the barrel can be sprung up, down, left, right or a combination there of. Indeed the barrel also gets longer and Mauser cut stock reliefs in the rifles with stepped barrels to counter this issue.
Can you get an AR500 dart board for a game of 300 yard 301 with a 303.
Lol
Can't you put a wind sock down there to help you read the wind?
no wind socks in combat
@@brandonboelter5953 No benches or stationary targets either. Don't be an ass.
I love old surplus guns
No bayonets for cavalrymen; their main weapon was still the sword or the lance.
That 1909 will still take care or business!
Norma is cranking out 7.65 Argentine, too
Now that was a great vid. Absolutely my favorite when You and Chad blow the dust off an old and very cool rifle made right after the dinosaurs went extinct and just blast away. What an beautiful and classic rifle. Can’t beat those German/Argentine rifles. The 1891 was one of my favorite videos too. That 1909 is definitely on my “must have” list. Thanks again guys.
I love to hear that steele ring! I love the old weapons! I'd love to put my hands on one!
Richard Tibbetts gives you a whole new level of respect for modern day weapons, some disgust tho lol
please do the full sized 09 i would love to see that there are some of the best mausers
Man Eric stacked those first 5 on top of each other at 300!
Some of these 1909’s were actually made in Argentina. I have one with a gorgeous striped walnut stock. The quality of these is second to none.
It's a shame that you can only get 7.65mm Mauser ammo from one manufacturer. FM Beltran in Argentina used to manufacture the cartridge, mostly because there're a lot of Argie Mauser in civilian hands in-country. I dunno if they ever exported ammunition to US. I do know that the old weapons plant in Rosario (FM FMAP or FM Domingo Matheu) used to export semiauto only metric-pattern FAL rifle to US, either fully assembled rifles, or just receivers (they were even ATF aproved), misc parts. Fun trivia: argentine gun enthusiasts nickname the argentine Mauser carbines (either 1891 and 1909) Mauser Mulita, that is literally "Little-mule Mauser", because, in comparison with the fullsize infantry rifle, it kicks like a mule, probably not as much as, let's say, a M44 Mosin-Nagant.
Back at CST in the 80s the 1909 Argentine was like gold for our custom builds even to 458 Winchester,
I love the Milsurp .I have one Mauser which is the 1891 Argentine.I found it in a local pawn shop.I guessed it to be from an estate sale. Every number was maching.The only thing gone was the ramrod. Even had a sling . I got it with a two gun buy.Ended up with about $ 150 in it.
Love the Mauser,.My next to collect is the Mosin,I hope..
I do appreciate all your videos Eric & Chad. God Bless America again.
These and the Engineer's carbines were really closer to short rifles vs carbines especially when you compare the 1891 carbine with the 1909 carbine.. Calling these 1909 carbines "stumpy" is kind of silly. Got to love the Argentine 1891/1909 battle rifles and carbines. Kind of a late response from me. Better late than never 😀 The scrubbed receivers were more likely with the 18991 battle rifles and occasionally an 1891 carbine.. It is rare to find a 1909 battle rifle or carbine without a crest unless they were a Peruvian variant. Speaking of the variations around countries with Mausers, this 1909 Cavalry carbine had a ton of variations within it's model unlike any of the other Argentine rifles. For sure very collectible. The Ejercito's are my favorites.
Thanks guys!
I absolutely love my Calvary carbine. Ours look exactly alike. Intact crest as well.
love it!!! I have the other calvery M1909 Argentina, A series, 1 of 10000 made in Berlin.
The M1909 was made well into the 1950s. Would be a great companion for my Ballester Molina!!!
109 year old tack driver ?? Seeing is believing. Must have been rarely fired. Winner !!
German Mausers can be amazingly accurate
I have the full length 1909 .wood love to see a video on that to
You didn't cover the blueing on the receiver. The way yours sits with blueing on the receiver is not original but was done later in life either in a refurb or by someone after it was surplused. Originally theses came with receivers that were all in the white or no blueing. If I could upload pictures in the comments I would post some of my all original example.
Love the old milsurp videos keep them coming
Do the full size please. I use the the 1909 full size but it has a straight bolt unlike the carvery bent bolt and I plan to take it hog hunter later this week and I would love to see how you like yours.
I love waking up to the fresh smell of gunpowder
Love when you bring out the old firearms that shaped this country. These firearms are so reliable and they knew how to make firearms last back then. Thank you for showing me this and now i want one, but i have to get another gun safe, decisions, decisions so difficult. You rock IV8888
Seems that ammo is crap. Down here, we used empty 06 brass and run it through a 7.65 sizing die and trim for length. Used .311 bullets for the Lee Enfield and you had a tack driver. Norma used to make great ammo in this caliber.
RobertoDonatti Ha, of course someone beat me to that fact. You can also use .270 brass.
I am a long term .308 fan. I have several 1891 Mausers. I want one of these Argentines!!!!!!!!!
The history of development you provide, along with the technical details, make these mil-surp videos a pleasure to watch. Your enjoyment of those mil-surps is important to me because it's not a game I'll ever get to play in. Thanks again.
TOP! Looove the 600yrds vids!
Good video like to see a ppsh41 or stg44
I would like to see another video on the Turkish Mauser
U won't melt shit floats is what my grandmother always said
Gents, I just love your MILSURP contributions. I really enjoy how you demonstrate that we know nothing new in the 21st century. They had it completely squared away in the late 1800s. Really cool guys.
You should do a video on the h&k m416
I saw on one of your old five guns videos a H&R 755 Sahara .22 single shot. Could you get please do a range video on that? Many thanks.
Awesome video guys
I've got an all matching argentine 1909 infantry rifle that's practically immaculate. Even has fire bluing on it like on the bolt release, screws, and rear sight. Would love to see you shoot one also. Most beautiful mauser i've ever seen/owned.
First thing i noticed when i shot mine was how hard it hit them targets!!
I started shooting big bore rifles with the infantrey Máuser Modelo 1909,some years ago when I was 16,an AWESOME LY ACCURATE rifle with Iron sights!!
Do a video of the M1893 Spanish Mauser pls
PPU makes a match grade round too and I shoot it a lot and get good results. To say all PPU is crap is stupid, every rifle likes different ammo in my experience. whenever I get a new gun I buy a box of every brand I can find and see what one the gun likes. pistols and rifles both, sometimes its accuracy sometimes its reliability. I swear most people that leave comments don't know sh!t. I have a 400 yrd range and get to shoot a lot. Most of the keyboard "experts" only have a 30 yrd range at their local indoor range, real world settings with change in elevation and wind show you true results. I love it when people say the "researched" online, in other words they read a bunch of comments left by other inexperienced shooters and then pretend they know. Blind leading the blind.
Treemaniac I believe Eric and chad did buy a box of every 7.65x53 ammo they could find. Ive only seem them made by PPU. Ive got a 1891 Argentine Cavalry Carbine. Ive looked. PPU is all I’ve found. The good part is that it’s decent ammo for what i do. Great brass too.
You ever tried pulling the projectiles on the PPU and balancing out the powder charge weights?
I personally own the infantry version of this rifle and use the same brand of ammo just in soft points for hunting deer
Nice gun
wow guys great shooting!!
fuck you
When he was bench rest shooting I didn't notice the recoil that mine has. I'm no wimp and actually appreciate heavy recoil because it translates to equal and opposite reaction but at a smaller psi point.
That's a really cool little milsurp and I'm liking that caliber quite a bit. I bet with some dialed in hand loads, you guys could get that elevation variation dialed out a little more and be on the gong 95% of the time. I may have to try to find me one of these little carbines! Speaking of carbines, I wanna see you guys do this very video with a Spanish fr8, my dad had one back in the day and I never got a chance to see what it was capable of. Always loved the look and handiness of that .308 carbine and it had a little recoil to it as well. Would be a neat comparison to this rifle, at least full power carbine wise
It would be great to see how your Lee Enfield 303 does at 600 yards, as a comparison to the mauser rifles.
Argentina better
That gun is beautify
Love watching vapor trails!
That old girl refuses to retire.
When you bring out the full length rifle please bring this carbine so we can see the difference.
M I L S U R P S Y E S S S S
Can yall do an ak at 600? Everyone says its a 300 yard gun but would like to see what it does at 600
AK operators Union has done it. Good vid from a Russian who I think is former special forces (Spetsnaz)
My_Name_Is_Chef
He is Polish
KG B3 he shoots with some spetsnaz guys. I didn't know he was Polish though!
My_Name_Is_Chef yeah he's polish and an army sniper team leader.
I love these... back in the mid 80's, I bought one of a friend of mine for $50. I didn't know any better and I kick myself in the @ss all the time since he had both the rifle and carbine but only opted to buy the carbine.
Should of bought both..
Nevertheless they were both in pristine condition, matching numbers w/crest intact and it's original slings to boot.
With silky smooth, presise actions, these are amazing examples of Mauser's pre-war quality and craftsmanship.
Here's a challenge for you shoot the M95 carbine at 600 yards
Great gun, defently a gun on the to buy list.
I have 2 1891 Argentine rifles that I love too shoot
Excellent video guys I've always passed up old milsurp guns when I had chance to buy them. As of now I own 3 because you've sparked my interest in these old guns. Thanks again
thank you so much Eric and Chad. Another great show
Cool. I find old Mauser cavalry carbines to be great fun to shoot. Wood shrinks with age. It is possible the nose cap or barrel band is shifting a little with each shot.
I love watching you guys having so much fun shooting. I love taking people who have never shot shooting. Seeing people smile like you guys when they start hitting is just a joy. Great video as always guys.
Thanks guys, that looks like fun
respect from argentina
I paid $40 for my '91 cavalry model including a 50 rd box of surplus ammo back in 1973 . I think Norma still makes ammo for it but is about $80 for a box of 20 .
Amazed that I found some people that really appreciates our guns,thanks guys
Great video Eric
Great video my friends!
I have one of these. It's my favorite centerfire bolt gun when it might be elk in the dark timber.
I shot 300 win mag from PPU and it shot like 308, 2800 fps with 165 gr bullet from a 26 inch barrel.
"Modelo, not the beer I guess" had me dying 😂😂😂. Great video as always boys!
I too have a full size 1909 and use PKU ammo. Numbers match, as well as the cleaning rod. Crest is about 30%. Would love to see you do a video on this rifle.
I hate edgeless swords! Shame they ground all those markings off too. Nice looking gun though.
Yeah I'm no sword expert but if you grind the edge off, you're permanently defacing the sword by reducing its dimensions...it's almost like a mini sword once you've grinded it down, putting a new edge on it, its not the same...
Nice vid-LOT of good info-picked mine up at a local pawn shop bout 4 years ago for $165-Crest marking still intact-
It’s awesome when you guys post this early, get to watch your stuff between pt hours and work call
El mejor mauser jamas fabricado
I never heard of this gun. I have to get one!
+Steve Peterson: Did you ever buy one ?
Open sights, lots of wind, 600yds. Good shooting
Who would've thought that being in the middle of a big field would get a lot of wind :O