Did Ancient Soldiers Get PTSD?
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Why do some people miss war. Why do some soldiers end up winning the battle but losing their minds? PTSD or Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has sadly become more and more prominent in our societies over the last few decades. But have soldiers always come home with shattered minds? Were the comrades of Achilles or Caesar suffering after putting down their swords? What is the history of this disorder and what can it tell us about modern warfare and civilian life? Let’s find out.
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This was a very interesting video, and you provided many good arguments. Thank you, this is the type of topic that can get me thinking about the world we live in.
@@tijanmed2158 Thanks I'm glad to hear that
@Shivaji the Great More Indian history videos are coming :)
@Kenneth Knoppik 1678, that line just messed me up so much :p
yes they did.. but they didnt know at the same time
Great breakdown. You really nailed the difficulties of coming home.
It's interesting to point out that our disconnected society - where people actively try to not see or talk to others - is just making things worse. Some people really love self checkouts... but you may not realize that the few sentences of interaction you get from the cashier can be really important for your mental health.
Yeah the current situation we're in isn't great for our collective mental health. We're social creatures that are supposed to be surrounded by friends and family almost 24/7.
Hmm Knowing Better you are in the comments section of all my subscriptions, keep up the work
Reminds me of one soldier who had to lie his ass off when telling his war stories because people would give him the look when he told the truth. It almost broke him. If you really want to support the troops, well, accept that there's going to be some viscera when you ask them "So, how was it?"
That’s very true and add to that Smart Phones, Face Book, etc and it makes it more difficult for people to connect with
an actual LIVE person. We have connected with clerks that you could tell were just not having a very good day, and by the
time we got done they were smiling and saying things like “you just made my day, thank you!”. And needless to say it made us feel
better too! 😊👍
Cogito and now it’s unknowably worse
In Freshman year of college I wrote a paper on the history of PTSD but I started at WWI. I figured the ancients wouldn't've known about it. I'm glad you added that disclaimer though of, "We're not diagnosing these people with PTSD. We're simply stating they have PTSD-like symptoms." Some people I know like to diagnose people from the past with disorders but they forget they're from a different culture so we can't do a proper diagnosis because something that's normal to is could be completely foreign to them.
Sounds like a interesting paper and WW1 is one of the best places to start as thats when it became a massive issue. Thanks for the feedback and for watching :)
Great topic for a history video and very well done. And the conclusion seems to me to be spot on as well. This topic is a very personal one for me because I have PTSD myself. In my case, it is because of childhood sexual abuse. I think that the conclusion reached in the video fits very well for victims of sexual trauma as well. As a society, we don't like to talk about such things. In many cases, victims are not believed or they simply keep it to themselves because it is considered shameful. But keeping it in the shadows only serves to increase the mental suffering of those who have experienced such trauma. Part of the reason I am making this comment is so that perhaps someone who is reading this and has had similar trauma will feel a little less alone.
Thank you so much for this comment :) What you said is 100% true and the points made in this video do apply to all people that have suffered trauma. Reaching out and talking about these things publically or even with close friends and family is the way to deal with these issues.
I believe many people in America just do not care about learning the trauma of others. Whether it's Guatemalans killed by _volcán de fuego,_ Puerto Ricans hit by hurricane Maria, or Vietnamese civilians still suffering from U.S. landmines laid during the war, the typical American will shut down your conversation as soon as you mention anything like these. If they haven't seen it on the news or read it themselves, they simply do not care to learn about it.
YAH God bless you for sharing your experiences. Thank you x
This statement does not apply as fact Americans. The news informs you to what it deems important but not news worthy, We have 2 fully staffed ships that do nothing but sail around the globe landing in countries to give free medical aid. We went to Afir. when Ebola first broke out gave aid in Sudan, Balkans. We have gone to every major world hot zone and disaster area to give aid and offer help. We give more food aid, medical aid than many nations in the U.N. There is no typical American Some volunteer their time around the world like Haiti as one of my friends did for years. I am sure there are many countries where people don't care Pisd became a real diagnosis after being verified by the DSM in America in 1980 @@jamescarmody4713
Bro, that is so fucked up, I'm so sorry.
You kinda touched on my personal theory as to why PTSD is much more common today is because military units in the past were made up of men who lived and worked in the same community and went back to that same community after conflict had ceased. They had people who had experienced the exact same things they did to talk to and deeply emphasize with them. In modern times, soldiers are taken from all over a country, thrown into units, and then dispersed throughout the country after the war. There’s no one who understands their pain and can never fully understand what they went through.
I think if we go back to the old way of organizing units (though it may be difficult to pull off) it’ll drastically reduce the number of soldiers who suffer from ptsd.
The problem with that is soldiers would witness friends they've known from childhood dying. Also, if a unit is wiped, it would greatly impact the population of that community.
I'm reminded of the USS Juneau. 5 brothers served aboard, all dying when the Juneau was torpedoed. There's a reason militaries spilt populations up in units.
The british during ww1 had something like this where friends from the same city could enlist together as a whole.
Wasn't nice either. Instead of having the loses evenly distributed over the entire country whole towns lost their youth in a single day.
The only solution I see is not waging war, except maybe class war.
Perhaps this is why US Army National Guard units tend to have fewer serious issues with PTSD. Many of the soldiers have known each other for years, even decades. Often they know each others families and friends. Also, they tend to have more soldiers who are 4 to 15 or more years older than a typical Active Duty unit; thus have more life experiences.
Many will return to that community.
Obviously not an absolute, more of an important variable.
I served for 28 years in the US Army. 14 Active Duty, and 14 in the National Guard. In the Infantry and SOCOM.
I had multiple TBI, and have been diagnosed with PTS.
I am a member of the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars), and I encourage any who qualifies to join. We have one last member who is a WWII veteran (just a few years ago we had 6), Veterans of the Korean War and Vietnam, Desert Storm, and OEF/OIF. We share bonds, and experiences, as well as benefiting from life lessons from each other, older Veterans in particular.
Our post has been having Women Veterans join recently (8 out of 180), but most of the 8 are very active in post activities, out of maybe 48 active members of our Post 1741 (age and health effect some participation). Having a couple of active women Veterans resulted in more women joining us.
The VFW is My "Tribe"
@@Pan_ZThat's correct. For example, in the Winter War, the men of some Finnish towns fell many times more than others, which can be explained by the regional system in use in the defense forces at the time. For example for the small town of Soini the war was truly devastating, as nearly all men fell or injured just in few battles. Later in the Continuation War, the troop divisions were formed differently, partly based on the experiences of the Winter War.
I'm so happy you made this video. It's such an important topic that is often misunderstood.
Thanks a lot. I can only hope that I managed to clear up some things
Yoooo mr beat
Nailed it. Modern society sucks for those of us that have had a major traumatic injury. After this I can pretty much self diagnose for PTSD. I wasn't in combat, just heading to work on a bicycle Wednesday Feb 26th 2014 at 8:45am. I was hit because a terrible driver made an illegal u-turn that sent another car into me. I woke up in the hospital 3 hours later. I've never been the same since. The partial disability sucks, but becoming invisible is far worse. You learn who your "convenience" friends are as soon as it takes a little extra effort on their part to include you.
I can definitely speak to the whole life-purpose thing though. I was a bike racer and hotrodder before. I can't do any of that now. Teaching myself electronics, and filling as much of my time as possible with the subject made a huge difference for me. The rest of my time is usually spent doing physical therapy and watching a bunch of edutainment uploads like this....and engaging with anyone interesting I can get talking in a comments section.
Anyways..
Thanks for the perspective. The fact someone I respect can upload a well articulated empathetic piece like this seems helpful to me.
-Jake
It may be a bit late but try Hanna somatics for recovery. It is extremely effective and has long lasting effects. Good luck!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. It's interesting how diverse we all are to find calm in our different gifts and abilities. YAH God bless you lots, I know He loves you x
You are not alone. Stay strong. 💪🙏❣️
You didn't mention this, but before the WWI term "shell shock," PTSD was called "soldier's heart" in civil war era USA.
That was in the script but ended up being cut for time unfortunatly.
...in Germany it was 'Granatenkoller'...! 🤕
@@Packless1 what does that translate to?
@@locusfocus6998 ...most closely it's 'Shell-Schock'
@@Packless1 damn bruh hopefully as time goes by in the future a curable treatment can be found to cure it make things good
explains alot of why im STILL struggling 3 decades later. never had that community, never felt i belonged anywhere or to anyone, never had the support nor the validation stuff. Explains why this social isolation from covid is so triggering for c-ptsd i have
I absolutely loved Tribe. One of the most enlightening books I’ve read in ages. I would also highly recommend ‘Why We Fight’ by Mike Martin. Great video by the way!
Thanks a lot. Yeah it's an incredible book and I only really covered a small part of it here.
"patroclus, achille's best friend" made me laugh out loud
"Best Friends"
I thought they were lovers? Surely we can say that now?
somniumisdreaming I think there are different interpretations of their relationship. But was Greece, so it could literally go either way.
I'm a military psychiatrist, a researcher on PTSD, and the author of At War With PTSD and Psychiatrists in Combat. I enjoyed this video. However, like many perspectives it is based on an oversimplified view of PTSD. Similar to other talks that propose one, unifying view of the condition (e.g. Achilles in Vietnam proposes that PTSD occurs because of moral injury), Tribe and this video, view PTSD as caused by one thing, in this case societal disconnection. Societal Disconnection, like moral injury, may certainly contribute to PTSD, but does not entirely explain it or really give us a pathway back from the condition. For example, the VA spent decades setting up group therapy to try and rebuild the sort of community that, bases on the thesis of this video, one would assume would allow warriors to recover from PTSD. Veterans very much liked and appreciated these groups, but the evidence indicates that people didn't really get better when they participated. Conversely, treatments that viewed PTSD as an overly conditioned fear response turned out to be very effective. These so called exposure-focused treatments also don't work 100%, so we are looking to some of other perspectives (like societal integration, moral injury, and even concepts of humor) to enhance treatment, but PTSD has so far eluded a "magic bullet" to explain or cure the condition. As to the central question as to if rates of PTSD have really changed across time is impossible to know, because you don't know the rate of a condition until you go looking for it. For much of history, soldiers who did not win a battle did not survive a battle, and those who did survive and win were often so focused on their physical survival rather that psychological concerns were not made too much note of. Bottom line, I applaud the effort to provide education and *a* perspective on PTSD, but viewers should understand that it is not *the* perspective on PTSD. Cheers.
Love how a lego is shown for traumatic experiences
When my soldier came home from the Gulf War, mass mailings were sent to wives to help us spot symptoms of PTSD and understand it. I came to know more about the childhood trauma PTSD of my experience. So many afflictions / self- medicating
emerge. Repeated surges of adrenaline cause breakdown in the system
“War is sweet for those who haven’t tasted it”
or if you're hitler
Or if you enjoy killing, like Genghis khan
@@Grantday07 ...most likely it was PTSD, that turned him into the monster he later was...!
2:08 LMAO legos. They are the true horror
8:11 that is the cutest and funniest fight animation I've ever seen and it's used for this serious topic. Not a criticism per se but it definitely got be laughing.
The hardest part from me is coming back home when in your mind killing is normalized. I couldn't imagine how it was as for ancient soldiers in close quaters. The one that haunts me the most was in close quaters, seeing life fade from someone was the worst for me. Couldn't imagine seeing that on a mass scale.
My bangladeshi cousin come to the US and to get citizenship he went to the army. He told me about how they had to patrol the buildings at night. Why? Because soldiers would try to kill themselves because of PTSD. He actually saved someone who tried to kill himself in the bathroom. My bengladeshi born family were puzzled hearing this. They made jokes like in bangladesh what is PTSD. No one would care or have it. Bangladesh had a war for independence from Pakistan back in 1964. It's a pretty young country still recovering from that. When you talked about isreals 1% ptsd rate it made sense. Bangladesh has a strong sense of identity because of their language and religion. It's the only country to fight for their language and Pakistan wanted to ban bangla and make everyone speak urdu. There's more reasons but bangladesh still has a strong sense of community against other countries. Bengali people I notice are very mentally resilient and tough especially because they don't live the modern soft comfy lives of the 1st world countries like I did. They had to bring themselves out of poverty and build lives in new countries or in their own. Bengali immigrants are all over the world. I'm the one of the first bengalis in my family born outside of bangladesh. Most of my family members have been brought up in poor villages in the countryside and had that strive to never again suffer from poverty. They put a huge amount of emphasis on education as a way to escape poverty and maintain their status. It's a very different and rough mindset to me growing up privileged in New York City. I look kinda soft in the eyes of my family who had to struggle.
I don’t think ancient soldiers had less PTSD so much as most people didn’t record it. Historians back then were more interested in the battles and politics.
Add on that combat was more intimate. You had to look a man in the eyes when you killed him.
Other factors were that back then soldiers had opportunities to "decompress" drinking, celebrating, and mourning with comrades of the battle.
Most returned to their Tribe / Community, where there were other, older veterans.
Interesting and informative video. I'm wondering about PTSD and its effects on non-combatants.
Excellent video. I work with veterans with PTSD, and many of them express what you've described.
Its so sad that People grew more and more distant towards other people.
Corrections, in accordance with the DSM-5 released by the APA in 2013:
1. Short-term PTSD does not exist, as one of its criterion is that 'symptoms last for more than a month'.
a) It is possible you confuse PTSD, for PTS (post-traumatic-stress - which is a normal psychological reaction and in no way a mental disorder).
b) The terminology I think you meant to use instead of 'short-term PTSD' is 'Acute Stress Disorder (ASD)', as one of its diagnostic criteria is that it is 'short-term'.
In my psychopathological class, we were thought that ASD has a higher likelihood of developing into PTSD later on if quick medical interventions do not take place (my uni is ranked in the top 10 worldwide, but I won't say which, for privacy concerns). This is also just a personal anecdote, as I can not refer you to a peer-reviewed written work saying the same (I presume we were shown one, but I do not remember which lecture this occurred in).
As I start my new channel on the subject of PTSD, your video brings to mind topics I can discuss. Great work and thank you.
Excellent excellent video! I feel this has truly helped me to understand myself better as I too have PTSD. I watched it with my family and the relief and understanding I felt was immediate. I've been watching all your videos when I'm awake at night due to anxiety and nightmares. It's very helpful and I appreciate your work. Thank you 🖤
I'm glad you pointed out that many things can cause PTSD and that you were choosing to focus on war. Loads of kids got PTSD from long term neglect and abuse and don't even realize because it was just how life was and they have no "before" the trauma to compare their lives with.
Wow this is really interesting, never thought about it that way.
Thanks Papa
This basically explains well why Im freaked out as a passenger in a car after my accident. I freak out every time we get near the shoulder on the road because it feels like just the moment before I was in a mini van that rolled 10 times.
A topic I've often thought about. You're thorough research wins the day again. Excellent vid.
Really happy there are people like you making content.
loving binge-watching this channel during covid lockdown -giving me a complete mental break/escapeism
My father was overseas in the Marine Corps when our initial shitstorm in the middle east was cropping up, and when he got out he exhibited some signs of PTSD. By some miracle he was able to mentally recover, but it made me realize early in childhood how uncommon and mishandled of a topic PTSD usually is by the public. Most just think of it as a bunch of vets who've been ruined by war, but just by doing some digging around it becomes plain to see that it's a direct consequence of how we as humans grew as a species, amongst many other cultural and outside factors.
So I have to thank you for this video. You explained and handled the subject at hand in an amazingly professional and informative manner to where i just wish everybody had this kinda knowledge. Definitely earned my sub
Thank you for this, very concise and helpful. I work (unpaid) for a charity that treats sufferers of ptsd, usually for free. Their treatment has an 82% ( clinically proven) success rate. The therapy is available nationwide in the UK, with over 200 qualified therapists. One significant issue is that those people who are on active service, will not get diagnosed, or get treatment for ptsd. They have to wait until they are out of the service before they can get treatment. Admitting that you have a ptsd problem while on active service is likely to attract derision from your peers, and so it is hardly ever admitted to. The problems surface sometimes years after the triggering event. Many ex-service personnel wind up homeless, and form a significant proportion of prison inmates. There is hope, once the person accepts that they have a problem, they can be freed from the torment in a matter of weeks.
Amazing work! To be honest, all I knew about the history of PTSD was from a George Carlin routine. This was very enlightening!
@Seth Greenberg no
Great video Cogito! Sadly, this is a topic very few people understand.
Great video! You've touched upon so many core and innate human attributes that we forgot we've had. It is depressing how our world now are filled with strangers instead of a sense of belonging :(
This video kept getting better. I love the quotes and examples from natural disasters and the contrast shown.
Great video, pretty informative. Thanks and kudos for your awesome work, Cogito.
Great video which covers the basic concepts of trauma and relevant contexts.
excellent work! loved this video!
I love your channel and share it as much as possible. Glad to see you posted another video! Much love from Pittsburgh, PA. Don't give up. This made my day because I can relate...
Thanks a lot. The sharing really helps and I appreciate it :)
From Pittsburgh too
You always manage to make me feel better about myself and the world Thanks for the video
As a combat veteran with PTSD, I want to thank you for this. The explanation of what goes through THE MIND OF A RETURNING SOLDIER IS DEAD ON. Thank you 🙏🏽
Ayy, a new cogito upload? Loving the continuously higher quality, longer content!
Thanks. You seem to be doing the same as the quality on your channel is stepping up a lot.
That was very interesting. Well done. Also, happy 2nd birthday to Cogito!
Haha thank you very much
Another great video from Cogito. Thanks for the good Sunday.
And thank you for watching :)
I’m impressed. Great Job! This is some great content
I loved this, thank you very much, you deserve way more subscribers
This was fascinating, thank you for sharing.
As someone who suffers from PTSD, this was super interesting and respectful. Amazing video!!!
Great video!
This was AMAZING
Loved it! Super interesting topic
MORE people need to see this!!
Great video. Definitely recommend Richard Gabriel's book, 'On Ancient Warfare', within which he devotes a whole chapter to this topic, even claiming the Budda may have had PTSD!
I loved it. Thanks for the wonderful video.
This is damn good work man...
Seems like your videos take some hard work, very underrated but I think you will find greater success if you keep it up.
Hey man,
This was a great video. Your editing has improved so much these past videos and they really inspire my own editing. If I may ask, where did you find the particles effects? Made it yourself? I'm looking for some good particle effects myself to give more "texture" to my videos.
I learned a lot from this video and it broke some of my preconceived notions - for example, I would have expected people in the past to suffer from more PTSD since they see the violence and enemies/victims from very close but it was really interesting to learn that no, and actually, the fact that the threat is faceless makes it worse. But really, the most interesting part was the ending - I did know about the need of building purpose and unity in a community, and that war, unfortunately, seems to build that the most. I really think as a society we need a way to mimic this very feeling without the need of violence. I mean, people don't do anything with their communities anymore so it's bound to split the country apart, and I think we should fix that.
Looking forward to some more man
This was incredible, I feel... a bit more normal having watched it.
Less war = More PTSD
logic... Also great video, really appreciate that you talk about this.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
Well done!
YAY NEW VID
This actually kind of helps with ideas on how to try and DO something about ptsd. I need to talk to someone and figure out how to get shit out.
This actually made my day :')
Malay Archer hey Malay from kings and generals
awesome steve harro!
Very interesting thank you
We're in an age where we could connect to people at an instant, yet we feel disconnected to one another, and I myself can feel that and I think and feed that it shouldn't be that.
This was a really interesting and informative video, thanks
I was literally thinking about this the entire day.
How weird it is to be more optimistic after watching a video about PTSD. Good video to view quarantined.
great video.
nice one
Well hellllllooooooo Mr Coutant
Wow this is very interesting and the points about societal influences on the prevalence of PTSD in troops returning from war is very valid…I often wondered why I’ve been down for so long after my time in the Marines was over and I was home…the brotherhood of course is obvious and well known by me and the void it left makes perfect sense, but how society just doesn’t care I guess was an underlying additional reason as to why I felt so bad…very good listen here. Thank you.
You know, this kind of explains why I tend to like jobs with physical labor despite being disabled. I feel like my labor is valued and that I'm productive, and then there's my stubbornness.
Interesting vid bro
Glad you found it interesting :)
Ok, this is epic
In my abnormal psychology class, my professor said that a support structure was very important for resilience and coping.
Tribe is awesome!
Fascinating
My father went through World War II, but didn't suffer PTSD from watching the Japanese behead people in the town square or watching the stupid Americans charging up a Japanese defended hill over and over again, while the Japanese just rolled grenades down the hill side killing the Americans. However, in civilian life, he couldn't get over seeing one of his friends eating eggs at a restaurant for breakfast and someone shooting his friend in the head and his friend's brains splattering out and mixing with the eggs on the breakfast plate. That image stuck with him for his entire life and he would sometimes describe it to myself and my sister when we were little kids. 😑😑😑😑😑
It might be that he'd mentally prepared himself for the war but not sheer murder
Can you imagine the low PTSD rates among Lebanese, Palestinians, Syrians and Jordanians? It's like the Yinon plan had something to do with it.
You sir are the first person (apart from myself) that has come out with the point about the community of soldiers and how alienated the modern world is.
When your a soldier you have a worth..you are fed clothed and watered...armies are better communities than our civilian ones.
More people should watch this
So what do you suggest the community as a whole should do to counter the isolation of its memebers? Furthermore, is it something we can actually change in our current model of society or is it rather a sympton of it?
I appreciate your analysis of Israeli PTSD levels. What about PTSD rates among Palestinians?
You guys are so immature
It's also worth mentioning that, in the United States, less than 1% of the country's population actually serves in the military. Back in the 90s it was about 3% I believe, (with higher rates of service percentage wise during the draft era of course). Less soldiers from the overall population means there are less families with some kind of social connection to them. So another contributing factor to loneliness and isolation that veterans experience is that less and less people of the civilian world have even interacted with them, let alone understand them. Even for non-combat veterans, symptoms of depression and loneliness still happen post-service because they were more or less isolated from mainstream society by staying in their own communities, where everyone served, and have difficulty re-integrating into a civilian workforce where 99% have never served.
The critical lack of community in modern society is distinctly something responsible for our rampant mental damages...
Isn't it ironic how even though we are more connected than ever before, we're thus at the same time farther apart than could ever be? Communities still exist, but we're separated by unfathomable distances to what our biology was ever designed to cope with. ...To the point that while the social construct is there, it effectively... well, isn't.
It's... really sad honestly.
A good video. Also worth pointing out that ancient and medieval battles rarely ended in slaughter. Fatalities rarely went above 10% in most active battles before the introduction of the firearm.
sick video
As an Australian Veteran myself and keen student of history. I noticed the huge difference in the Veteran experience for those returning from the First World War and those returning from the Second World War.
After the First World War, many veteran felt out of place as their countries were in total chaos such as Germany, or untouched by the war such as Australia. These Veterans came home to a societies that had totally changed while they were away. And in the case of Australia, the people couldn't understand or imagine the experiences of these returning Veterans.
Unlike the Second World War, where everyone was mobilised for the effort and everyone had a relative in the Armed Forces. Also I believed news reels had some effect giving an insight into the experiences that their Men (and Women) were facing.
Firstly, very well done! I wonder if part of the trauma could be the loss of the tribe and not only the actual trauma itself? Greatly though provoking...
This reinforces my interpretation of modern PTSD. It is also aggravated by army psychologists who are constantly probing you for feedback. They mean well but just highlight the juxtaposition of returning to an indifferent society. It’s a very complex issue. If you look at actors and elite athletes who go completely off the rails after falling from the public eye, you can see a similar pattern.
On the historical side, The Surgeon of Crowthorne is a great book that looks at an extreme case of PTSD from the American Civil War. Spike Milligan writes about his “Shell Shock” from WW2 in Mussolini - His part in my downfall. There are also detailed accounts of the survivors of Rourkes Drift that clearly indicate the effects of exposure to extraordinary combat stress.
We may have had Crash course deviate into other topics, but you're a fucking brilliant replacement.
3:38 "When Hector kills Achilles's... "Best friend", Patroclus"
His cousin
The ebst way to overcome PTSD is to relate with others that are going throw your same trauma and the more people it is the better you feel because you can relate to them and is like you get an amotional attach they comprenhend you they know what you need and wwhat you think
The evidence doesn't support that unfortunately. Not when that's the only "therapy" one gets.
Our modern Human society seems to be deeply inhuman in its core, demanding everyone being like a robot.
As someone who's subscribed to scribd i didn't know it was pronounced that way
I am a member of the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Wars), and I encourage any who qualifies to join. We have one last member who is a WWII veteran (just a few years ago we had 6), Veterans of the Korean War and Vietnam, Desert Storm, and OEF/OIF. We share bonds, and experiences, as well as benefiting from life lessons from each other, older Veterans in particular.
Our post has been having Women Veterans join recently (8 out of 180), but most of the 8 are very active in post activities, out of maybe 48 active members of our Post 1741 (age and health effect some participation). Having a couple of active women Veterans resulted in more women joining us.
The VFW is My "Tribe"
This is super interesting! I did a family research project on my great-great-grandfather who fought in the Civil War, and judging from family records and looking at his battle history, I'm 99% sure he had PTSD. If only he could have gotten help, maybe he wouldn't have been so angry... (and my great-grandfather would have been spared nightmares caused by the horror stories from his dad!)
That's really interesting! I read a book about the possibility of some convicts having PTSD (I'm Australian), & I wondered about one of my convict ancestors. He had one of THE WORST convict experiences you could have; absolutely brutal treatment, & when he later married, he treated his family horribly- he kicked his 14yrold son out of home (my great-grandfather, who never spoke to him again), trashed the house when he was angry, etc.
How do you make your animation? Which software do you use
I will never forget a clip on TV about WW1s Kriegszitterer - Warshakers. Men were filmed shaking uncontrollably for minutes unable to sit or stand. It broke my heart.
The doctors had no idea how to cure it. I sometimes wonder how long it took for the shakes to stop and if they could return home or had to stay in insane asylums...
WW1 was horrid and that noone learned from it is nauseating.