@@Zero11s what 3D movies or HD DVDS cause i just found 50 HD DVD's for 20 bucks recently and you can still buy 3D movies just saw aqua man for pre order in 3D the only HD DVD's to avoid or test is Warner brother discs even regular dvd's of that time have a high chance of disc rot
The issue with torrenting is that at least here in the US that’s illegal. So there’s the concern of going to jail/paying a fine. Owning physical media avoids those issues.
It's funny to listen to a guy give reason to buy 4k while he speaks next to a pile of fake 4k for the most.. Special effects obliged, the film is mastered in 2k ... that's 90 % of what comes out in "4k"...
@13randon 13axter Most movies are mastered in 2K, or 4K at the most. Unless the media has some other benefit, 8K would not provide any additional resolution.
Physical media over digital, all day. I own close to 900 movies - mostly DVD, but have a lot of blu rays and one or two 4K films. There’s no way in hell all my films are available in one place online. I love having a physical collection I can look at and browse, and I’m happy to be safe in the knowledge that all my library is mine to own and enjoy whenever I want.
If you use torrents you'll get all of that and more in one location, but yeah most streaming services are frustratingly limited, can't find what you're looking for.
1.. The Chinese will pick up the slack for UHD players. As we are seeing in the 4K TV space, TCL and Hisense are making an Impact. Korean and Japanese brands have competition. 2.. Today is a snowy day in NJ so it seems a lot of people are home and are apparently on the internet streaming because my bandwidth has tanked. Shows that are 4K on Netflix are streaming as 1080p. If you love high-quality video and sound, you'll support physical disc until you die.
1. I didn’t think of someone else picking up the mantle! That gives me hope, thanks! 2. The perfect day for streaming ruined by other people with the same idea. 😁😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Its a high end expensive option, but Pioneer does have a Universal 4K player, the UDP-LX500 from what I've read its built like a tank, very quiet, and is an awesome 4K player.
@mrbrainchild76 if you download games and the publisher loses the rights to those games then technically you lose the right to play that game too. You only buy the right to play games when you buy digital games. For example, Activision and Beenox lost the rights to Spider-Man games. This means if you bought games like the Amazing Spider-Man 2 digitally then you can't play them anymore unless you still have it downloaded on your hard drive. You can no longer buy it digitally and if you delete it from your hard drive you cant download it anymore. Another great example is the PT demo. It was removed from PSN by Konami and can no longer be played unless you have it installed on your PS4. PS4's that have this demo installed go for amazingly high prices online. This is why physical media is amazing and still superior for games, just like the point brought up in this video, you own the disc, you own the game. Sure, nowadays many games come with updates that must be downloaded digitally so if services go down your disc game may be "incomplete", but it's better than having no game at all. If you want to invest in digital games make sure you have a hard drive with a LOT of space that can store all of them, you never know when a publisher might go down and you dont have the digital game you got from them downloaded so you lose it for eternity.
I only use wired headphones, but there are good and bad quality headphones. It's not only the wires which matter to the sound quality of headphones. The overall build and the speakers and how they are made and tuned matter as well.
I couldn't agree more with ALL of your points. I have never, and will never watch anything streaming. My wife has commented many times that I need to stop buying movies on disc and watch them on Netflix or Amazon Prime. I'll continue to do what I've been doing for years now. I have a 3,000+ movie library and not going to stop now or ever.
Physical disc are the same price as digital for the most part. And most times you get the digital code with your physical disc so it's always a win to buy physical
Exactly. Pretty dumb and lazy to buy digital when you can lose it in years or something happens. You got them all with physical. And sometimes I get better deals on the movie disk then paying for the digital. So you got like 2-3 back-ups plus disk is better quality no matter what people say. I've tested it on 3 new tv's I bought for house Sony X900F, Samsung Q8FN. I even bought 4K Infinity War in Digital to test while buying the 4K disk. The blu-ray was identical if not slightly better and the 4K destroyed the 4K download.
Physical discs without a doubt, dont like all this streaming its know where near as good as the proper disc, same goes for music streaming, I buy the cd rather than stream.
*nowhere *it's Hi Gerald! For your convenience, so you can fix your comment and re-post it, I've corrected your spelling and punctuation errors. You're welcome! *Literate version:* Physical disks without a doubt. Don't like all this streaming, it's nowhere near as good as the proper disk. Same goes for music streaming. I buy the CD, rather than stream.
Gerald Dyas While physical 4k Blu-ray’s are undoubtedly better, saying that the streaming version is “nowhere near” as good is just ignorant. The data consumption of said 4k streams say otherwise. As for music, also ignorant. I have a 2 Rockford Fosgate Amplifiers in my car with one 500 watt amp going to my rear 6x9’s, door 6.5” and door tweeters and the other amp is pushing 1,500 watts to 2 12” Sundown Audio SA12’s in a sealed box in the trunk of my 2014 Camaro SS. Let me assure you that Apple Music sounds absolutely amazing when either streaming or playing downloaded music on the 2,000 watt stereo and plenty of other people’s hat I don’t know agree when they told me they can’t believe how clean my system sounds.
@@ThisGuyDrives I agree, Mp3's sound just as good as CD's in the car, but on my home Hi-Fi, not as good. Also listening to a lossless Blu ray soundtrack (in a film)with a higher bit rate than CD's is just something else. Even 4k streaming can't match a high end player with a Blu ray disc in it, let alone a 4K disc.
Rights management is the main reason I rip my own stuff rather than buy digital stuff. Plus, stuff like VUDU and Ultraviolet felt like corporate adware. I didn't want them to have access to my computer to be seeing what I'm watching or when. It's overly paranoid, but in the digital age, it's worthwhile.
Here in india, my friends laugh when i buy blu ray, they say that: who buys discs nowadays, can watch online, can download torrents, etc etc. but only a movie lover knows the quality of a content in blu ray disc vs the quality of content in torrentz. Me as an audio lover i want that original audio from that discs :)
13randon 13axter Hellooo, I just rip movie not extras.And by the way the movie which you download from torrent is already compressed a lot. And original audio is also compressed.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist streaming is one thing but buying is another...you do know that you can buy any movie in the same quality and own it forever online right?
Dude, you are so right. Saw the title and clicked immediately. I never stopped buying them and I’ll keep buying as long as I can get them. Just putting this out there. Just in case anyone want to get rid off their physical media I’ll take it all. For free of course 😂
Long live Physical Media! Ugh, I hate that everything is going digital. I've had several of my mp3 albums that I purchased on Amazon no longer show up on my digital purchases. Luckily I downloaded them and saved them to a hard drive. But they would be gone forever and I'd have to repurchase them. With digital movies I don't believe you even have the option to download them and save them to a hard drive. And your correct, with Blu-ray you get the best picture and you don't have to worry about bandwidth dips. Another thing to mention is internet prices continue to rise and in order to watch movies in 4k/1080p you need to have a higher tier plan. With physical media you don't need the internet to watch.
Agreed! I didn’t go into pricing but overall time it will be more expensive with a selection that is basically chosen for you by the provider. Thanks for commenting!
You can download your digitally purchased movies. I downloaded all mine from iTunes and store them on an external hard drive. I just stream the movie from iTunes itself in the meantime.
@@demonicaxeman7264 I've never used iTunes. I'll have to double check my Amazon account to see if I have the option to download to an external hard drive. I once bought a digital movie that was not available on Blu-ray but I did not see an option to download. If I wanted to watch it I had to stream it. I have really good internet but I just hate to think that one day I'll NEED internet in order to watch my purchased movies. But if I can download them I'll be little happier. Although I still prefer Physical Copies.
Yeah, physical media is the way to go. Everything you said is 100% true! Way higher quality in video and audio, special features plus you own your discs. It's sad how many people trust that large corporations won't screw them over. These people either don't remember or don't know about Netflix trying to gouge their customers back in 2009 by doubling their rates over night, simply, because they could. They only back paddled when 2/3 of their customers canceled their service. Never, ever give up your rights to control your media how you want!
Great video! I love having physical copies of my movies. It's so much better and plus my internet here is bad so I can't truly enjoy the 4K experience without a disc.
Jacob Frey A got a nice Sony 4K player good build quality it’s quite until you eject the disc tray but I like it it’s simple plays the disc all I use it for yes it has apps you can download on it like Netflix and You Tube Spotify I don’t care just plays my discs and dose good job at it.
Im glad you brought up the importance of owning the content. One thing a lot of people don't know is that different countries own different distribution rights for specific movies. My buddy who lives in Canada told me that one day, a bunch of his movies just disappeared from his video library because the distribution contracts expired (or something like that) and they were no longer allowed to own the digital versions of those films in Canada.
I really miss renting physical media. It was a great experience just taking your time selecting a movie or show. You also get to see other people doing the same and it adds to the fun.
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Thank you for mentioning the rights issues! Because any studio can have a falling out with Apple, Netflix etc and pull all their content from that service and you're stuck not being able to watch your purchased content. A very similar situation happened to myself on Steam. I couldn't play a game I purchased because the studio pulled it from the service! It was eventually restored, but the fact remains that for that time it was just GONE and there was nothing I could do about it. So thank you for this sorely needed PSA!
your 4th reason, was the really the ONLY reason people need to buy physical media. This is why I have my 200+ discs collection and growing. (Though I do also have a 300+ digital library..)
Exactly, can honestly be so compliment in wanting to give over your digital media ownership rights to other companies and trust that they won't sell or no longer renew rights to your favorite movies and tv shows?
I agree with You Buddy! Me personally being a Psychical Media person cause I’ve always grown up with VHS, DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray And 4K Blu-ray Ultra HD I’ll prefer Psychical media, The reason I don’t like stream like Hulu and Netflix because sometimes the movies you want to watch aren’t there anymore its only a matter of time before they change their movie titles.
Cool video man! And so happy to see videos like this being created.. I love the physical format and will always purchase movies on disk, to hear that in about 5 years time physical media may be no more really saddens me... for me you don't truly own the movie you love until you have it in your hands, so you can see and touch the artwork... digital pales in comparison when it comes to quality also. I've only just started my 4k collection as its still quite pricey, but like yourself aim for the deals/offers. Long live physical media!
Yes, you own the disc, but, you really can't do what you want with them. For example, you legally can't play the movies publicly. Now, having said that, I do agree with you on other points. The biggest issue why I buy my physical movie disc is because I want to watch movies when I want to. What I mean is that streaming services will often have movie expiration dates. "This movie is only available to watch for the next month." How many times have you logged on to your favorite streaming service, looking for one of your favorite movies, only to realize that it's gone...expired? Hulu, HBO, Starz, Cinemax, even Netflix will often remove old content.
Star Brand As long you own the disc you can display it publicly it’s yours. You can not make copies and sell them you can sell the original disc you bought but you can’t burn copies and then sell them.
@@ryans413 You are correct about making copies, but I just checked Legal Zoom. According to them, a copywrited movie (even if you purchased the disc) cannot be played in public. In private, yes, like your home during a party, is legal, but outside, or at a large public gathering, is illegal. Many years ago when I worked at a major bookstore and the newest Harry Potter book was coming out, we thought it would be a great idea to play the first Harry Potter movie on our store's big screen. We were forbidden by Corporate because of the copywrite public showing law. We couldn't even play the Harry Potter theme song. All this, even though both DVD and CD were privately owned by an employee.
I completely agree! One of my channel’s main focuses is on physical media. I love the slipcovers, being able to look at my movies, hold them and build a movie collection. I will always buy physical copies of movies. I tend to buy books too vs kindle because I love to hold a book while I read. I love used books as well :). CDs I don’t buy as often unless I love the cd, but in general I’m physical media all the way!! Great video! Thanks for bringing more awareness to this subject matter :).
And let's not forget that by owning your movues/tv shows on physical format you don't have to worry about them getting deleted or losing them like digital content since you own them in physical form already.
Good video. You are spot on. Streaming services NEVER give the same audio and video quality as a physical disc. I have gone back to buying discs again the last years due to this. Ultimate quality.
Blood Carver you can see this in stuff like Blue Planet. The compressed video can't handle the ocean colour gradient underwater so you get bad artifacts
UHD players may be relatively expensive, but Blu-Ray players are very affordable, and the difference in picture quality going from Blu-Ray to UHD is negligible to imperceptible unless you have a very big TV and you sit very close to it. I have a 65" 4k TV and sit about 9' away, and though there is a perceptible difference between 4k and 1080p, it's a small difference, and only there in A/B comparisons. Additionally, as the Hobbyist alludes to, streaming sources are more highly compressed than physical media, which results, in my experience, in 1080p Blu-Ray looking better in most cases than a 4k stream. And if you have any modern game console, you already have a Blu-Ray player. As for cost, if you don't want pay the premium for buying new Blu-Rays or UHD discs, there are rental options available. Netflix is still relatively cheap and has a huge selection. Redbox is convenient, but has poor selection and higher prices. I have a Family Video store near enough that renting locally is convenient for me as well. And if you do buy new discs, there are ways to mitigate the cost. A UHD package generally comes with two discs, UHD and Blue-Ray, or if you buy Blu-Ray, it often comes with an additional DVD, and in both cases you usually get a digital download code. When I buy a UHD package, I can generally get a significant portion of the purchase price back by selling the second disc and the download codes online. The above mentioned Family Video rental chain is based on this economic model - they buy commercially packaged discs, split the contents and rent them separately and sell the download code, then sell the extra discs at a big discount after the "new release" window has passed.
When the power goes out, your downloads go too. I have a dvd player and can watch a movie for about 2 hours in the darkness. Eventually, I will get a Sony portable Blu Ray player as well. I have been switching to Blu Ray and have around 200 movies in that format, but still have DVD's because some films have never gone to Blu Ray.
I love owning shows on bluray or DVD. I watch a lot of anime which often times goes out of print or streaming sites will just drop the show. Having physical media guarantees that you have that show anytime you want to view it as long as you take care of the player and disc.
Keep in mind that Netflix 4K uses the newer, more efficient codec that is HEVC (aka H.265). For any given quality level, it only needs about half the bitrate that H.264 (used by regular Blurays) needs. So it's not as simple as higher bitrate = better. You have to consider other factors like the codec (as well other video encoding settings that you can learn about on the Handbrake wiki).
alvallac21 Yes but still comes down too internet speed frame drops compression Netflix uses. Netflix content is really compressed so it can be loaded and streamed smoothly across anyone’s setup. Blu Ray is still compressed as well but not as much and if you factor in that a Blu Ray disc will play how it’s presented 100% of the time where a movie on Netflix will suffer from dropped frames compression and people connection speeds. It’s no where near the quality of a disc he’ll no where near the quality of a 4K disc
I agree I have 1gbps and the 4k netflix vs bluray they are pretty much identical. The only time i see better 4k is if you buy or rent movies on apple or vudu then you can see the difference but the another difference will be the audio quality blu ray provides bolby true hd + atmos VS Dolby digital plus atmos there is a significant difference, its not just the video but audio immersion to really enjoy a movie.
The streaming services in the UK arent up to much. Most of the 4k content is not movies unless its made by netflix or amazon. The sound is 5.1 or worse only. Or you cant get both hdr and atmos due to restrictions in the native apps on the tv or your player. The 4k uhd disc is far and away the easiest way to get both. Plus the difference between atmos and 5.1 is absolutely crazy.
I totally agree streaming content is not a good choice. Buying a DVD or Blu-ray or a 4k uhd Blu-ray is the way to go. I certainly will continue to buy them as long as the format continues for sale.
I used to buy all my movies on ITunes in 4K hdr before and i have always been a film buff and video enthusiast. The compression caused green black levels and macroblocking which destroyed the movies for me. I have upgraded to 4K blurays now and it’s 10x better!!! The hdr looks brighter, has deeper black levels, no macroblocking or visible compression ever!!! I also didn’t know how much better my 5.2 would sound on 4K blurays! Everything is amazing now with 4K blurays. I have picked up Jurassic world fallen kingdom, house with a clock in it’s Wall, terminator genysis, Blade runner 2049, bad times at the el royale with more. All Of which have looked and sounded awesome!
I completely agree I have a huge DVD/Blu-ray collection and I will never stop purchasing physical copies of my favorite tv shows and movies it's my property and it can never be taken away from me and I prefer that way.
Great video! I totally agree. I keep buying a lot of physical media movies, CD's, and video games while I can. I hope it continues and keeps continuing, but I am doubtful. Maybe a video on CD's and that they sound better than digital files cause they're not compressed. Another good reason is that you can turn CD's into digital files and alway have the back up. Another reason for physical discs is if the internet is down you can't stream, but can put your physical disc in your player and watch without the internet. Lastly, I can go over alot more movies on a shelf then using a remote to go through each title. Again, great video!
I enjoy owning the physical media itself, rather than a license to use the media. I hate the fact that if one of the streaming services no longer has a movie or game available, that's it. We no longer have access until they decide to re-add it. Plus, for me, there is a certain level of satisfaction that comes from adding to my shelves of various collections.
I agree with what HTH has said, I like my DVDs, like a book something you can hold and own, a nice cover, you open the dvd there is a sleeve or booklet with programme and episode notes, very useful, especially with older classic films and tv shows. Ive had my Samsung Blu-ray Disc player 17 months and connected to my UHD/HDR tv the dvd picture is superb, the player also upscales a Standard Definition dvd disc. Ive noticed more films being newly remastered in HD from the original negatives and proper aspect ratio, specifically for the dvd/blu-ray market, colour & b/w, so there is still a good dvd/blu-ray market for enthusiasts.
i totaly agree with you man, i'm just 24 years old and i started buy physical media a one year ago, and there is nothing like that, you own your movies, games and musics, i love so much
Absolutely agree. And there are many other reasons too. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the end credits can be very important. You have a piece of music that helps you digest what you've just seen, and reflect on the current state of the story. But all too often, you get an ad, or it just skips to the next episode destroying any feeling you have. This goes for television too. Not to mention the fact that if you even slightly move the mouse, you get on screen graphics that get in the way of your viewing. Amazon is the absolute worst for this when they plaster the centre viewing screen with a massive play button and darken the entire thing. I also like the idea of physical media. Blu-ray is the ultimate physical format for a digital archive. Take the recent releases of the classic Doctor Who series for example. The shows have literally never looked sharper, commentaries, and production subtitles on every episode, clips from contemporary television shows that featured Doctor Who, PDFs of scripts, annuals, TV listings, production designs and loads more. And all packaged in a gorgeous box that you can display proudly on your shelf as a memento for one of your favourite shows. Netflix simply cannot compare to that.
Thank you for sharing. I fully agreed when it comes to Visual & Sound Quality. A disc will definitely more enjoyable especially when you have a whole home theatre system set up..... Cheers
One note for completists - you won’t get _all_ the features because the market, instead of increasing the value proposition, spreads the content out over different purchase options. So some will have 3D, some will have 4K, some uncut versions are only on some formats, and some featurettes are exclusive to certain retailers. Very silly for the market to do this for a dying medium. They should be providing the most _complete_ package possible given the competition on price and convenience from streaming.
Even though I haven't upgraded to 4k blu ray, I agree with all your points. As one of few subscribers of Netflix's blu ray mail in program, the benefits of a physical media is tremendous if coupled with a surround sound system. I find myself not missing the movie theater because I can just wait a couple of months, and new releases will be available (with better food that I prepare!). If I like them, as you mentioned, Thanksgiving and Christmas sales provide an opportunity to save a few dollars.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist The blu ray mail in Netflix is a cost effective way to watch titles you have no intention of buying or are not available on kiosk rentals. Those who rent at least weekly through kiosks would save money if they can mail discs the next day!
Yea I used to do Netflix disc but I’m not able to watch movies weekly so it stopped being cost effective. I do rent disc when I can to try things out before I buy them.
Yea, with how movie places can have too many distraction with cells and any chatter that it ruins the fun of watching movies if u try focus on what u seeing. i know they still get traffic, but guessing many more just get a home setup so can watch a movie and enjoy it and just turn off cell till ready to answer it after the movie. i barely go to movie places just the same unless out with others any. so i enjoy at home with my own setup anytime.
@@cable30 Like you the chatter and constant phone checking annoys me when watching movies. I also don't go to movies as much (last one I saw was "Rogue One"). The final straw was when I calculated that a $17 a month mail in blu ray Netflix subscription brought in more utility and is less expensive than one matinee ticket + small popcorn or soda + gas money for the trip.
GREAT video! Physical ownership is very important, but my main reason (which you mentioned) is image quality. I ALWAYS roll my eyes (and then see red) when I hear or read someone say: I don't notice a difference from streaming...SMH
Don't forget about the whole Disney buying the Marvel rights deal. All their movies are going to be removed from Netflex and be shown on Disney+ exclusive. Which means you'll need multiple subscriptions if you want to see certain content.
I prefer physical media anyway since I don’t have internet connection. I also don’t have to worry about getting a Blu-ray player because my Xbox one S plays Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray.
I have been collecting physical media since the days of VHS & Betamax(that format war was ridiculous), Laserdisc & RCA Selectavision. I then moved onto DVD back in 1997 when they made their way to the US. I have then moved onto Bluray (yet another format war with Bluray vs HDDVD, I chose a side, Bluray was the way to go for me). Now I'm collecting 4K UHD and although it seems as if there's another format war (4K & Bluray vs Digital downloads and Streaming services) thank goodness I don't have to ever worry about that because physical media is something I paid for & own and I can always go back time after time and watch my collection without the fear of losing a digital downloads in some cloud somewhere, physical media will always rule in my household...
I’d like to add something else: buying your favorite movies supports the studio more. When you pay $20 for a digital copy of a movie, only a portion of the money goes to the studio, but if you buy a $20 DVD almost all of the sales go to the studio, so if there’s a movie you really like then buying the disc will help support them more than streaming will. For example, right now the movie Alita: Battle Angel is one of my favorites, but might not get a sequel if it doesn’t make around $20-50 million more, but if it does good on BlueRay and DVD sales, it’s much more likely to get a sequel. Obviously this doesn’t apply as much to massive studios like Disney, but if there’s any indie films or smaller budgeted movies that you enjoy, buying the disc is always better for the studio than streaming, but streaming is better than nothing.
I have to disagree about the "extras and gag reels." If you legally redeem your digital code you can view extras and gag reels on Vudu and iTunes, I do it all the time. That is really my only point of contention. I can not argue against the quality of physical media vs digital. However, I must say digital is getting closer in video quality but it will probably never catch up on audio quality tho. Great video.
And - MAJOR POINT - I CAN LEND THEM TO MY FRIENDS! We don't all buy the same discs because they are so ridiculously expensive. You didn't mention this key aspect once! :)
The quality of streaming anything is poor in relation to the physical product even music, it's all compressed. I have yet to see any film on Netflix and Amazon Prime match the quality of 1080P HD never mind 4K. I only had Netflix for a month to which was free and after that month there was no way I was gonna pay to continue having it's service. I do have Amazon Prime but the only reason I have that is to save on postage and get things quicker. I can watch films for free on Amazon Prime Video with my subscription but very rarely bother watching it. It's pretty much very poor and I prefer the disc every time. I am not being funny but even the quality of your video here and most videos of those who do reviews and such on TH-cam are a damn site better quality than NetFlix and Amazon Prime and even those are compressed.
I like getting new UHD and Blu-ray, redeeming the digital copy, but I only watch the digital copy if I'm going on vacation. I always keep the discs because like you said you never know when a digital copy might be going away.
The rights to the disc is a big one for me. I’ve always been big on being able to “hold” what I buy, including movies and games. If I lose internet, I got the disc. Also, I read about an incident someone posted on the Blu-ray forum a while back. Not 100%, but he moved from Australia to Canada IIRC. He opened his iTunes up to watch a movie, but couldn’t. Turned out that particular distributor didn’t have the rights for Canada, so it blocked him from viewing it. Also, you mentioned extras. Another thing is languages. My mother in-law doesn’t speak English and I have my Vudu account on their tv so the kids can watch movies. Unlike the discs, you can’t put on other languages. I don’t understand how digital movies cost the same, but give you less features. They’re getting better about adding extras (on newer releases), but don’t give the spoken language options that discs offer. My final reason: I just love the look of my shelf with all my movies on it. I love seeing them on there, going through them like a library, and picking them off. Just so badass to me. Haven’t got a 4K player yet, but I’m looking into it. I like the convenience of digital, but I’ll never use it exclusively.
I totally agree with you! All your points are basically my thoughts exactly, you just better articulated them than I would have, lol! Thanks for this video.
If the film/tv series is really special to me then I will always consider buying a bluray copy of it to get all the bonus content and naturally, better video and audio. Only do this once/twice a year but Its super satisfying compared to streaming
Completely agree! Ever since I got a projector the need for Blu-ray has gotten even more apparent - streaming quality is so so much worse on a 120” projected image!
I completely agree with you. I'm glad TH-cam recommended this. I've been buying things lately because they haven't been on the streaming sites, etc. If I can't find it online but still want to watch it, it doesn't cost too much to just buy it online.
Sir Jon Smith IIII did say quality, not quantity, there are many movies, even just on Netflix, with atmos, but even I can hear, that there is a difference, it will be better to buy physical media for a long time yet. 👍🏻👍🏻
13randon 13axter well, that’s illegal, and no doubt comes nowhere near the quality of a physical disc. Way to do the movie industry a solid👍🏻. Good luck not getting caught.
Got to have physical media! I have many terabytes of storage and rip my media to it, maintaining it all in a lossless format. I even rip my music to a FLAC format and then dump my entire collection to a 250GB iPod (upgraded internal hard drive) in ALAC format for portability. One of the problems with digital formats is that everyone seems to think compressed content is okay and they don't realize what they're missing.
Preach. Laziness of not getting up to open a disc and inserting the disc. After streaming 4K for a month, I put a 4K disc in my Oppo and was blown away by the great quality and huge difference in the picture. Cheap key codes will continue to impact physical media. There will be challenges moving forward for physical media. I agree with you and hope it survives.
I’m a physical media collector and will always support Blu-Ray, DVD, and CD. Agree with your video especially on those extras and ownership. Samsung I heard has decided to stop making Blu-Ray discs, leaving Sony as the largest producer of discs. The video that I heard this on also predicts the death of physical media in 5 years. God I hope not. I have a region free Blu-Ray player and buy discs of all types from U.S. distributors, but also things I can’t find except from the UK or Japan. It’s totally worth supporting physical media and let’s hope it stays around for years to come!
They predicted the death of vinyl records. Didn't happened, did it. Samsung made a very poor player without Dolby Vision support, which sold very badly as a consequence. Anyone who blames the market as a whole for Samsung's retreat, swallowing their excuses, never saw how bad that hardware was!
I am still upset that 3D blu ray is gone in the U.S. I have to order from Europe now to get 3D, I am going to be really mad if Blu ray and 4k go away too!
Oh, I understand that they will eventually go to 8k. I will then order from Europe for 4k, but I just want to still have a hard copy of my movies, not all only streaming! I still have my 3D TV and DVD player in one room and my 4k in another. I don't really plan on buying the 8k, at least not until it has been around for a while.
@13randon 13axter that is the reason .. until certain final versions exist permanently we can use torrent happyliy and later throw the harddisk away and buy each and every final high quality versions one day. hope it doesnt come when become old.
and now when i see the blu rays disc colecters on youtube they look dumbfor buying those many blurays and now they start buying 4k versions for the same movies lol. when 8k comes they will again repeat the same process. pitty on them
I still get reg dvd, unless i by chance get a movie that is blu ray-dvd-digital copy then i may try get the movie if want real bad that i can watch it in any format. it will be my first blu ray and more formats since i only get dvd for now. some people want the highest quality video possible and i know blu ray is just a bit more polished so to speak in details if u feel need to see everything so sharp i guess as a person posted a dvd and br picture from one movie years back. i wont waste rebuy same movie if i got a player that can play what i got. if u happy with a certain format then why waste bank on br and higher if u not need it right away. just do best u can with what u got, and be happy u can still watch it till feel a need to get any newer later.
I'm a physical media junkie. Games, records, laserdiscs and now I'm in love with blu ray steelbooks. 4K discs at least have the slips so I like that but apparently Amazon doesn't do slip covers dang it. Commentary has gotten a lot better. Director and star not the lightning guy and stand in anymore. Its about the art, instructions, better quality, whatever the reason I think it's best to have something rather than stuff floating in a cloud.
Dude thank you so much for that!!!! I’ve been saying this for years but people just don’t want to listen!!! Only people like you, me, and the people in the TH-cam community that upload collection videos know what we’re really talking about! They complain about physical media being expensive but that’s bull!!! I still pay $40 for some of my titles still! Not because I have to but because I choose to! If I see something I like and happen to be in Barnes and Noble or wherever, I buy it! It’s that simple. I work, I play. This is the only hobby that I have had my entire teen and adult life and I won’t let being a cheap skate penny pincher stop me from getting the movies I want my favorite format! I make no apologies about that whatsoever. All this talk about space and cost of discs and yet we’ve been doing the same thing now across 5 formats since the 80’s! People have just gotten so cheap and lazy that it’s ridiculous. I had a guy tell me during the dvd format wars that I should get a player with divix because he was too lazy to take a rental back to the store. Unbelievable!!!! That’s the kind of people that are killing physical media, the lazy asses that don’t want to get off the couch to change out a disc. It’s pathetic! Well anyway, to hell with them! That just means more discs and slipcovers for me! I’ll collect until they press their last disc. I still buy dvd, Blu-ray, and 4K Blu Ray. Thanks again dude! Keep the physical media flag flying!!!
Thank you for your passionate response. I’ve been so happy to hear there are still people like us out there keeping the physical formats alive! Viva la disc!!!! (I don’t speak Spanish so that’s probably totally incorrect!) 😁😁😁
I have over 300 DVDs and Blu-rays, what am I going to do with them? I don't want stuff on my computer, I don't want stuff out there in the cloud that I can grasp I want to be able to, on any whim, pop in a disc and enjoy
While I agree with every point made and really even appreciate the technical aspect as well. The prices for UHD and 4K discs are just way to expensive. Usually I buy most of my digital media on VUDU as they often have really good sales and often have extra content including commentary and all the extras making it a lot easier. Still all your points are valid. The thing with steaming even if you have the bandwidth is that's it's honestly good enough and really most people likely won't even be able to tell the difference unless they have a proper setup.
Yeah streaming quality is fine for most people, but apart from discs offering the very best picture and sound quality the other biggest benefit of physical media for me is availability. As a film fan if I hear about a great title I want to watch then a physical disc is the best way, because not only are there thousands of great movies not currently available on any streaming/download service, even those that are available often disappear again after a short time. Not a problem when you have the blu-ray, and they’re not that expensive. Due to the bit-rate even a 1080p blu-ray can often look as good as or better than a 4K stream, and after a few months you can get great deals on discs, they’re only expensive for a short time after release.
@13randon 13axter I've done that which was nice but the problem is the file size for one 4k Blu-ray is like 50gbs so kinda kills it for me since micro sd card storage is still very expensive and external HDD harddrives break easy
Discs are THE best. Just make sure they are true 4k movies filmed in 3k or higher and not 2k upscalers. Sooooo many of them are 2k, which is not 4 times the resolution of 1080p blu ray.
My (UK) Sky internet/video drops out every time the phone rings or a high wind moves the tree in the path of the satellite and you can't rely on it being fast enough for Bluray or 4K at anytime. I buy all my music on CD and all my films/video on DVD/Bluray or possibly, at the price of it, in future, 4K discs. I can keep them all for ever, use them all and take them anywhere (new home, mates home, holiday in Spain, Croatia) - whatever!
Unbelievable cannot believe it I've always liked Disc,over streaming the picture and sound quality is a lot better you don't have to deal with the streaming's buffering, freezing pictures while watching a movie Samsung is making a huge mistake.
I couldn't agree more. Between stuff not being available via streaming, not being able to watch it when the internet is down, I'll continue to buy physical media. I don't understand how so many people are content watching a movie on their phone or tablet.
I've stuck with them for the blu ray and 4K players becasue they play PAL discs for some reason. I have a lot of region ABC discs that are PAL encoded but only Samsung player play(like German imports of The Burrower, The Last Lovecraft and Wolf Creek, all on blu ray, for example).
Agree. Horrible build quality, the world's worst ever remote control, a noisy fan and no Dolby Vision - those were the reasons for their poor sales, but Samsung prefer to blame everyone else.
I prefer physical products any day of the week, because you're in control of it you own it and it's yours, say if any of these streaming companies go bust or go offline you've lost all your content and cant watch it, it's always best to be in control what you own!
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VHS and Cassettes all the way
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Wise guy.
i am still on the HD DVD train at the moment and rocking a 3D TV
you can't buy them anymore even on the Internet
@@Zero11s what 3D movies or HD DVDS cause i just found 50 HD DVD's for 20 bucks recently and you can still buy 3D movies just saw aqua man for pre order in 3D the only HD DVD's to avoid or test is Warner brother discs even regular dvd's of that time have a high chance of disc rot
Physical media is best!💯
Amen 'Lupita👏
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Your collection of bluray movies are amazing
The issue with torrenting is that at least here in the US that’s illegal. So there’s the concern of going to jail/paying a fine. Owning physical media avoids those issues.
Thanks!
I agree..must have disc. Picture and audio is always better
It's funny to listen to a guy give reason to buy 4k while he speaks next to a pile of fake 4k for the most.. Special effects obliged,
the film is mastered in 2k ... that's 90 % of what comes out in "4k"...
4k disc aren't just about resolution. It's also about HDR and immersive audio. Also more and more film are being released using 4k masters.
@@Uomodargilla Some companies, like Disney, only put the Atmos track on the 4k version.
@13randon 13axter Most movies are mastered in 2K, or 4K at the most. Unless the media has some other benefit, 8K would not provide any additional resolution.
Adrian Torres 100 percent audio is the big one for me but the 4K discs I’m starting to really enjoy the picture too.
Physical media over digital, all day. I own close to 900 movies - mostly DVD, but have a lot of blu rays and one or two 4K films. There’s no way in hell all my films are available in one place online. I love having a physical collection I can look at and browse, and I’m happy to be safe in the knowledge that all my library is mine to own and enjoy whenever I want.
If you use torrents you'll get all of that and more in one location, but yeah most streaming services are frustratingly limited, can't find what you're looking for.
There's tons of content only available on VHS and DVD.
@@MoviesNGames007uk It's all on torrent
" There’s no way" - There is Torrent)
@@withnail-and-i what happens if the hard drive housing those torrents dies?
1.. The Chinese will pick up the slack for UHD players. As we are seeing in the 4K TV space, TCL and Hisense are making an Impact. Korean and Japanese brands have competition.
2.. Today is a snowy day in NJ so it seems a lot of people are home and are apparently on the internet streaming because my bandwidth has tanked. Shows that are 4K on Netflix are streaming as 1080p.
If you love high-quality video and sound, you'll support physical disc until you die.
1. I didn’t think of someone else picking up the mantle! That gives me hope, thanks!
2. The perfect day for streaming ruined by other people with the same idea. 😁😁
The Japanese and Korean brands are already made in China.
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist Its a high end expensive option, but Pioneer does have a Universal 4K player, the UDP-LX500 from what I've read its built like a tank, very quiet, and is an awesome 4K player.
@13randon 13axter where do.you download them?
@@rickpinnock2009 UDP-LX800 for much better audio
I'm physical dics all the way for movies and games. Good video!
Thanks 🙏🏾
And you like bloodborbe....I see you have great taste
@@bbcraz1226 thanks. I bear that game at least 7 times lol
Jay Just Games same
@mrbrainchild76 if you download games and the publisher loses the rights to those games then technically you lose the right to play that game too. You only buy the right to play games when you buy digital games.
For example, Activision and Beenox lost the rights to Spider-Man games.
This means if you bought games like the Amazing Spider-Man 2 digitally then you can't play them anymore unless you still have it downloaded on your hard drive. You can no longer buy it digitally and if you delete it from your hard drive you cant download it anymore.
Another great example is the PT demo. It was removed from PSN by Konami and can no longer be played unless you have it installed on your PS4. PS4's that have this demo installed go for amazingly high prices online.
This is why physical media is amazing and still superior for games, just like the point brought up in this video, you own the disc, you own the game.
Sure, nowadays many games come with updates that must be downloaded digitally so if services go down your disc game may be "incomplete", but it's better than having no game at all.
If you want to invest in digital games make sure you have a hard drive with a LOT of space that can store all of them, you never know when a publisher might go down and you dont have the digital game you got from them downloaded so you lose it for eternity.
Physical media is always better than digital. Just like wired headphones will always be better than bluetooth.
physical media is digital, bad wired headphones are still bad even with wire, so no
@@fullalbums5675 Huh?
@@tastycookiechip nothing, move on
FULL ALBUMS physical media is digital with higher bitrate. Streaming is highly compressed digital. Soooo Physical media wins 😄
I only use wired headphones, but there are good and bad quality headphones. It's not only the wires which matter to the sound quality of headphones. The overall build and the speakers and how they are made and tuned matter as well.
Great video totally agree with everything you said I’m a 4K / blu ray man all the way I love actually owning my movies physical media forever
IF YOU HAVE A GOOD SURROUND SOUND RECEIVER AND SPEAKERS ALL IM SAYING IS FURRY OR SAVING PRIVATE RYAN WITH SOME EVEREST THROWN IN FOR GOOD MESURE!😉👊
I couldn't agree more with ALL of your points. I have never, and will never watch anything streaming. My wife has commented many times that I need to stop buying movies on disc and watch them on Netflix or Amazon Prime. I'll continue to do what I've been doing for years now. I have a 3,000+ movie library and not going to stop now or ever.
Physical disc are the same price as digital for the most part. And most times you get the digital code with your physical disc so it's always a win to buy physical
Exactly. Pretty dumb and lazy to buy digital when you can lose it in years or something happens. You got them all with physical. And sometimes I get better deals on the movie disk then paying for the digital. So you got like 2-3 back-ups plus disk is better quality no matter what people say. I've tested it on 3 new tv's I bought for house Sony X900F, Samsung Q8FN. I even bought 4K Infinity War in Digital to test while buying the 4K disk. The blu-ray was identical if not slightly better and the 4K destroyed the 4K download.
Physical discs without a doubt, dont like all this streaming its know where near as good as the proper disc, same goes for music streaming, I buy the cd rather than stream.
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Hi Gerald! For your convenience, so you can fix your comment and re-post it, I've corrected your spelling and punctuation errors. You're welcome!
*Literate version:* Physical disks without a doubt. Don't like all this streaming, it's nowhere near as good as the proper disk. Same goes for music streaming. I buy the CD, rather than stream.
Gerald Dyas While physical 4k Blu-ray’s are undoubtedly better, saying that the streaming version is “nowhere near” as good is just ignorant. The data consumption of said 4k streams say otherwise.
As for music, also ignorant. I have a 2 Rockford Fosgate Amplifiers in my car with one 500 watt amp going to my rear 6x9’s, door 6.5” and door tweeters and the other amp is pushing 1,500 watts to 2 12” Sundown Audio SA12’s in a sealed box in the trunk of my 2014 Camaro SS.
Let me assure you that Apple Music sounds absolutely amazing when either streaming or playing downloaded music on the 2,000 watt stereo and plenty of other people’s hat I don’t know agree when they told me they can’t believe how clean my system sounds.
@@goldenstarro3143 I prefer "Grammar Hitler".
@@ThisGuyDrives I agree, Mp3's sound just as good as CD's in the car, but on my home Hi-Fi, not as good. Also listening to a lossless Blu ray soundtrack (in a film)with a higher bit rate than CD's is just something else. Even 4k streaming can't match a high end player with a Blu ray disc in it, let alone a 4K disc.
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Rights management is the main reason I rip my own stuff rather than buy digital stuff. Plus, stuff like VUDU and Ultraviolet felt like corporate adware. I didn't want them to have access to my computer to be seeing what I'm watching or when. It's overly paranoid, but in the digital age, it's worthwhile.
Here in india, my friends laugh when i buy blu ray, they say that: who buys discs nowadays, can watch online, can download torrents, etc etc. but only a movie lover knows the quality of a content in blu ray disc vs the quality of content in torrentz. Me as an audio lover i want that original audio from that discs :)
Yea I’ve talked to folks who have similar comments then they rush to watch content before Netflix removes it at the end of the month and I smile.
Home Theater Hobbyist haha
13randon 13axter Hellooo, I just rip movie not extras.And by the way the movie which you download from torrent is already compressed a lot. And original audio is also compressed.
@13randon 13axter which player is best to play bluray orriginal version in pc? i mean along with menu
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist streaming is one thing but buying is another...you do know that you can buy any movie in the same quality and own it forever online right?
Dude, you are so right. Saw the title and clicked immediately. I never stopped buying them and I’ll keep buying as long as I can get them. Just putting this out there. Just in case anyone want to get rid off their physical media I’ll take it all. For free of course 😂
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Long live Physical Media! Ugh, I hate that everything is going digital. I've had several of my mp3 albums that I purchased on Amazon no longer show up on my digital purchases. Luckily I downloaded them and saved them to a hard drive. But they would be gone forever and I'd have to repurchase them. With digital movies I don't believe you even have the option to download them and save them to a hard drive. And your correct, with Blu-ray you get the best picture and you don't have to worry about bandwidth dips. Another thing to mention is internet prices continue to rise and in order to watch movies in 4k/1080p you need to have a higher tier plan. With physical media you don't need the internet to watch.
Agreed! I didn’t go into pricing but overall time it will be more expensive with a selection that is basically chosen for you by the provider. Thanks for commenting!
You can download your digitally purchased movies. I downloaded all mine from iTunes and store them on an external hard drive. I just stream the movie from iTunes itself in the meantime.
@@demonicaxeman7264 I've never used iTunes. I'll have to double check my Amazon account to see if I have the option to download to an external hard drive. I once bought a digital movie that was not available on Blu-ray but I did not see an option to download. If I wanted to watch it I had to stream it. I have really good internet but I just hate to think that one day I'll NEED internet in order to watch my purchased movies. But if I can download them I'll be little happier. Although I still prefer Physical Copies.
I’ve been a Blu-Ray collector since 2014 and a 4K Ultra HD collector since 2017 and I love Blu-Ray and 4K Ultra HD and I will keep collecting them.
Yeah, physical media is the way to go. Everything you said is 100% true! Way higher quality in video and audio, special features plus you own your discs.
It's sad how many people trust that large corporations won't screw them over. These people either don't remember or don't know about Netflix trying to gouge their customers back in 2009 by doubling their rates over night, simply, because they could. They only back paddled when 2/3 of their customers canceled their service.
Never, ever give up your rights to control your media how you want!
Great video! I love having physical copies of my movies. It's so much better and plus my internet here is bad so I can't truly enjoy the 4K experience without a disc.
Poor connectivity is another reason I didn’t adequately address in the video but definitely a reason to buy physical media, thanks for watching!
I used my Panasonic Blu-ray player for 10 years. Just got an amazing deal on the Sony UBP-X800. Long live physical media!
Jacob Frey A got a nice Sony 4K player good build quality it’s quite until you eject the disc tray but I like it it’s simple plays the disc all I use it for yes it has apps you can download on it like Netflix and You Tube Spotify I don’t care just plays my discs and dose good job at it.
IVE GOT THE SONY UBP-X500 AND ITS ONE BRILLIANT LITTLE 4KUHD BLUE RAY PLAYER AS MY TV IS 4K HDR10 AND SO IS MY PLAYER.😁😉
Ryan S do you know if an actual 4K blu ray player is better than a Xbox one S, that is what I have
Physical media over streaming any day!
Im glad you brought up the importance of owning the content. One thing a lot of people don't know is that different countries own different distribution rights for specific movies. My buddy who lives in Canada told me that one day, a bunch of his movies just disappeared from his video library because the distribution contracts expired (or something like that) and they were no longer allowed to own the digital versions of those films in Canada.
I’m still an avid consumer of physical media. I absolutely love my library of discs. 💿📀
I really miss renting physical media. It was a great experience just taking your time selecting a movie or show. You also get to see other people doing the same and it adds to the fun.
Great point. I miss this experience so much!
Yep the video store is missed by many! I saw an article this week about the last Blockbuster on the planet
You inspired me to start my own collection. I love 4K, couldn’t agree with you more!
I’ve done the same, I’ve started building out my 4K library. I think it’s awesome
Colby S 4k has 4 times the quality than BluRay
George Grimwood that’s true.
George Grimwood just like some consumer can barely see the difference between DVD and blue ray
George Grimwood I can but you can’t
Awesome video! I agree 100% on owning physical media. I buy all mine when they go on sale. Target just had buy 2 get 1 free. Buy some off eBay.
I HAVE ALOT OFF BLUE RAYS AND SOME 4KUHD BLUE RAY SECOND HAND OF AMAZON,AS LONG AS YOU BY USED NEARLY KNEW.AS SOME PEOPLE WATCH FILMS ONCE OR TWICE THEN SELL THEM ON TO MUSIC MAGPIE OR OTHER BIYERS,LIKE NEXT WEEK IM BYING GLADIATOR 4K UHD FOR £13.50P,IVE SEEN IT UP FOR £40.00P BRAND KNEW ON AMAZON.A PENNY SAVED IS A,PENNY EARNT.L.O.L.👊😉
I have over 100 4k uhd and 3d movies . Nothing can beat that quality its even better then a lot of cinema with the right set
Same here. I've got over 130 4k movies. Love the picture quality
Thanks for supporting the format!
Most of 4K is a con, very few are truly native 4K. Nothing wrong with 1080p
@@dmomcilovic9185 Some look great and others look terrible with awful color grading
Thank you for mentioning the rights issues! Because any studio can have a falling out with Apple, Netflix etc and pull all their content from that service and you're stuck not being able to watch your purchased content. A very similar situation happened to myself on Steam. I couldn't play a game I purchased because the studio pulled it from the service! It was eventually restored, but the fact remains that for that time it was just GONE and there was nothing I could do about it. So thank you for this sorely needed PSA!
your 4th reason, was the really the ONLY reason people need to buy physical media. This is why I have my 200+ discs collection and growing. (Though I do also have a 300+ digital library..)
Exactly, can honestly be so compliment in wanting to give over your digital media ownership rights to other companies and trust that they won't sell or no longer renew rights to your favorite movies and tv shows?
I agree with You Buddy! Me personally being a Psychical Media person cause I’ve always grown up with VHS, DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray And 4K Blu-ray Ultra HD I’ll prefer Psychical media, The reason I don’t like stream like Hulu and Netflix because sometimes the movies you want to watch aren’t there anymore its only a matter of time before they change their movie titles.
They could reissue the discs at a discount.
Cool video man! And so happy to see videos like this being created.. I love the physical format and will always purchase movies on disk, to hear that in about 5 years time physical media may be no more really saddens me... for me you don't truly own the movie you love until you have it in your hands, so you can see and touch the artwork... digital pales in comparison when it comes to quality also. I've only just started my 4k collection as its still quite pricey, but like yourself aim for the deals/offers. Long live physical media!
Yes, you own the disc, but, you really can't do what you want with them. For example, you legally can't play the movies publicly.
Now, having said that, I do agree with you on other points.
The biggest issue why I buy my physical movie disc is because I want to watch movies when I want to. What I mean is that streaming services will often have movie expiration dates. "This movie is only available to watch for the next month." How many times have you logged on to your favorite streaming service, looking for one of your favorite movies, only to realize that it's gone...expired? Hulu, HBO, Starz, Cinemax, even Netflix will often remove old content.
Star Brand As long you own the disc you can display it publicly it’s yours. You can not make copies and sell them you can sell the original disc you bought but you can’t burn copies and then sell them.
@@ryans413 You are correct about making copies, but I just checked Legal Zoom. According to them, a copywrited movie (even if you purchased the disc) cannot be played in public. In private, yes, like your home during a party, is legal, but outside, or at a large public gathering, is illegal.
Many years ago when I worked at a major bookstore and the newest Harry Potter book was coming out, we thought it would be a great idea to play the first Harry Potter movie on our store's big screen. We were forbidden by Corporate because of the copywrite public showing law. We couldn't even play the Harry Potter theme song. All this, even though both DVD and CD were privately owned by an employee.
It will be a very sad day if we ever lose physical media.
keep spreading this word my friend.
😁😁 I’m trying!
@Dreamstate Just shut up about your torrent bullshit..
I completely agree! One of my channel’s main focuses is on physical media. I love the slipcovers, being able to look at my movies, hold them and build a movie collection. I will always buy physical copies of movies. I tend to buy books too vs kindle because I love to hold a book while I read. I love used books as well :). CDs I don’t buy as often unless I love the cd, but in general I’m physical media all the way!! Great video! Thanks for bringing more awareness to this subject matter :).
I hate streaming..I dont even use streaming devices. Disc will give you the best viewing experience, U own it and they will never die!
And let's not forget that by owning your movues/tv shows on physical format you don't have to worry about them getting deleted or losing them like digital content since you own them in physical form already.
Good video. You are spot on. Streaming services NEVER give the same audio and video quality as a physical disc. I have gone back to buying discs again the last years due to this. Ultimate quality.
Blood Carver you can see this in stuff like Blue Planet. The compressed video can't handle the ocean colour gradient underwater so you get bad artifacts
13randon 13axter
I’d rather contribute to keeping the format alive.
UHD players may be relatively expensive, but Blu-Ray players are very affordable, and the difference in picture quality going from Blu-Ray to UHD is negligible to imperceptible unless you have a very big TV and you sit very close to it. I have a 65" 4k TV and sit about 9' away, and though there is a perceptible difference between 4k and 1080p, it's a small difference, and only there in A/B comparisons. Additionally, as the Hobbyist alludes to, streaming sources are more highly compressed than physical media, which results, in my experience, in 1080p Blu-Ray looking better in most cases than a 4k stream.
And if you have any modern game console, you already have a Blu-Ray player.
As for cost, if you don't want pay the premium for buying new Blu-Rays or UHD discs, there are rental options available. Netflix is still relatively cheap and has a huge selection. Redbox is convenient, but has poor selection and higher prices. I have a Family Video store near enough that renting locally is convenient for me as well. And if you do buy new discs, there are ways to mitigate the cost. A UHD package generally comes with two discs, UHD and Blue-Ray, or if you buy Blu-Ray, it often comes with an additional DVD, and in both cases you usually get a digital download code. When I buy a UHD package, I can generally get a significant portion of the purchase price back by selling the second disc and the download codes online. The above mentioned Family Video rental chain is based on this economic model - they buy commercially packaged discs, split the contents and rent them separately and sell the download code, then sell the extra discs at a big discount after the "new release" window has passed.
HDR makes a huge difference
When the power goes out, your downloads go too. I have a dvd player and can watch a movie for about 2 hours in the darkness.
Eventually, I will get a Sony portable Blu Ray player as well.
I have been switching to Blu Ray and have around 200 movies in that format, but still have DVD's because some films have never gone to Blu Ray.
Will never sell off hard copies ,,, my crappy internet supplier has put me on a weaker signal ,,, so streaming is harder
I love owning shows on bluray or DVD. I watch a lot of anime which often times goes out of print or streaming sites will just drop the show. Having physical media guarantees that you have that show anytime you want to view it as long as you take care of the player and disc.
Even Blu-Ray is better image quality than Netflix 4K.
Keep in mind that Netflix 4K uses the newer, more efficient codec that is HEVC (aka H.265). For any given quality level, it only needs about half the bitrate that H.264 (used by regular Blurays) needs. So it's not as simple as higher bitrate = better. You have to consider other factors like the codec (as well other video encoding settings that you can learn about on the Handbrake wiki).
alvallac21 Yes but still comes down too internet speed frame drops compression Netflix uses. Netflix content is really compressed so it can be loaded and streamed smoothly across anyone’s setup. Blu Ray is still compressed as well but not as much and if you factor in that a Blu Ray disc will play how it’s presented 100% of the time where a movie on Netflix will suffer from dropped frames compression and people connection speeds. It’s no where near the quality of a disc he’ll no where near the quality of a 4K disc
I agree I have 1gbps and the 4k netflix vs bluray they are pretty much identical. The only time i see better 4k is if you buy or rent movies on apple or vudu then you can see the difference but the another difference will be the audio quality blu ray provides bolby true hd + atmos VS Dolby digital plus atmos there is a significant difference, its not just the video but audio immersion to really enjoy a movie.
boycott Netflix
The streaming services in the UK arent up to much. Most of the 4k content is not movies unless its made by netflix or amazon. The sound is 5.1 or worse only. Or you cant get both hdr and atmos due to restrictions in the native apps on the tv or your player. The 4k uhd disc is far and away the easiest way to get both. Plus the difference between atmos and 5.1 is absolutely crazy.
I totally agree streaming content is not a good choice. Buying a DVD or Blu-ray or a 4k uhd Blu-ray is the way to go. I certainly will continue to buy them as long as the format continues for sale.
Thanks for commenting
I used to buy all my movies on ITunes in 4K hdr before and i have always been a film buff and video enthusiast. The compression caused green black levels and macroblocking which destroyed the movies for me. I have upgraded to 4K blurays now and it’s 10x better!!! The hdr looks brighter, has deeper black levels, no macroblocking or visible compression ever!!! I also didn’t know how much better my 5.2 would sound on 4K blurays! Everything is amazing now with 4K blurays. I have picked up Jurassic world fallen kingdom, house with a clock in it’s Wall, terminator genysis, Blade runner 2049, bad times at the el royale with more. All Of which have looked and sounded awesome!
I completely agree I have a huge DVD/Blu-ray collection and I will never stop purchasing physical copies of my favorite tv shows and movies it's my property and it can never be taken away from me and I prefer that way.
Great video! I totally agree. I keep buying a lot of physical media movies, CD's, and video games while I can. I hope it continues and keeps continuing, but I am doubtful. Maybe a video on CD's and that they sound better than digital files cause they're not compressed. Another good reason is that you can turn CD's into digital files and alway have the back up. Another reason for physical discs is if the internet is down you can't stream, but can put your physical disc in your player and watch without the internet. Lastly, I can go over alot more movies on a shelf then using a remote to go through each title. Again, great video!
Thanks!
I’ll always buy physical media if possible. Only if the TV show I want isn’t out on Blu-Ray will I then buy the seasons off iTunes.
I enjoy owning the physical media itself, rather than a license to use the media. I hate the fact that if one of the streaming services no longer has a movie or game available, that's it. We no longer have access until they decide to re-add it. Plus, for me, there is a certain level of satisfaction that comes from adding to my shelves of various collections.
I agree with what HTH has said, I like my DVDs, like a book something you can hold and own, a nice cover, you open the dvd there is a sleeve or booklet with programme and episode notes, very useful, especially with older classic films and tv shows.
Ive had my Samsung Blu-ray Disc player 17 months and connected to my UHD/HDR tv the dvd picture is superb, the player also upscales a Standard Definition dvd disc.
Ive noticed more films being newly remastered in HD from the original negatives and proper aspect ratio, specifically for the dvd/blu-ray market, colour & b/w, so there is still a good dvd/blu-ray market for enthusiasts.
i totaly agree with you man, i'm just 24 years old and i started buy physical media a one year ago, and there is nothing like that, you own your movies, games and musics, i love so much
I still use dvd and cd.
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Some content I only have on DVD so I still use it too!
13randon 13axter If you think it’s so stupid you should just stop watching them. You know what you’re doing is illegal right?
Absolutely agree. And there are many other reasons too. I can't speak for anyone else, but I think the end credits can be very important. You have a piece of music that helps you digest what you've just seen, and reflect on the current state of the story. But all too often, you get an ad, or it just skips to the next episode destroying any feeling you have. This goes for television too.
Not to mention the fact that if you even slightly move the mouse, you get on screen graphics that get in the way of your viewing. Amazon is the absolute worst for this when they plaster the centre viewing screen with a massive play button and darken the entire thing.
I also like the idea of physical media. Blu-ray is the ultimate physical format for a digital archive. Take the recent releases of the classic Doctor Who series for example. The shows have literally never looked sharper, commentaries, and production subtitles on every episode, clips from contemporary television shows that featured Doctor Who, PDFs of scripts, annuals, TV listings, production designs and loads more. And all packaged in a gorgeous box that you can display proudly on your shelf as a memento for one of your favourite shows. Netflix simply cannot compare to that.
Thank you for sharing. I fully agreed when it comes to Visual & Sound Quality. A disc will definitely more enjoyable especially when you have a whole home theatre system set up..... Cheers
Thanks!
One note for completists - you won’t get _all_ the features because the market, instead of increasing the value proposition, spreads the content out over different purchase options. So some will have 3D, some will have 4K, some uncut versions are only on some formats, and some featurettes are exclusive to certain retailers.
Very silly for the market to do this for a dying medium. They should be providing the most _complete_ package possible given the competition on price and convenience from streaming.
Even though I haven't upgraded to 4k blu ray, I agree with all your points. As one of few subscribers of Netflix's blu ray mail in program, the benefits of a physical media is tremendous if coupled with a surround sound system. I find myself not missing the movie theater because I can just wait a couple of months, and new releases will be available (with better food that I prepare!). If I like them, as you mentioned, Thanksgiving and Christmas sales provide an opportunity to save a few dollars.
Totally understand, even now and then I contemplate signing back up for the Netflix mailing plan 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist The blu ray mail in Netflix is a cost effective way to watch titles you have no intention of buying or are not available on kiosk rentals. Those who rent at least weekly through kiosks would save money if they can mail discs the next day!
Yea I used to do Netflix disc but I’m not able to watch movies weekly so it stopped being cost effective. I do rent disc when I can to try things out before I buy them.
Yea, with how movie places can have too many distraction with cells and any chatter that it ruins the fun of watching movies if u try focus on what u seeing. i know they still get traffic, but guessing many more just get a home setup so can watch a movie and enjoy it and just turn off cell till ready to answer it after the movie. i barely go to movie places just the same unless out with others any. so i enjoy at home with my own setup anytime.
@@cable30 Like you the chatter and constant phone checking annoys me when watching movies. I also don't go to movies as much (last one I saw was "Rogue One"). The final straw was when I calculated that a $17 a month mail in blu ray Netflix subscription brought in more utility and is less expensive than one matinee ticket + small popcorn or soda + gas money for the trip.
GREAT video! Physical ownership is very important, but my main reason (which you mentioned) is image quality. I ALWAYS roll my eyes (and then see red) when I hear or read someone say: I don't notice a difference from streaming...SMH
Physical media all the way, CD, LaserDisc, DVD, HD DVD, Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D, 4K Blu-ray.
Don't forget about the whole Disney buying the Marvel rights deal. All their movies are going to be removed from Netflex and be shown on Disney+ exclusive. Which means you'll need multiple subscriptions if you want to see certain content.
I prefer physical media anyway since I don’t have internet connection. I also don’t have to worry about getting a Blu-ray player because my Xbox one S plays Blu-ray and 4K Blu-ray.
Same as My one x! :D
I have been collecting physical media since the days of VHS & Betamax(that format war was ridiculous), Laserdisc & RCA Selectavision. I then moved onto DVD back in 1997 when they made their way to the US. I have then moved onto Bluray (yet another format war with Bluray vs HDDVD, I chose a side, Bluray was the way to go for me). Now I'm collecting 4K UHD and although it seems as if there's another format war (4K & Bluray vs Digital downloads and Streaming services) thank goodness I don't have to ever worry about that because physical media is something I paid for & own and I can always go back time after time and watch my collection without the fear of losing a digital downloads in some cloud somewhere, physical media will always rule in my household...
Physical Media all day. Netflix and Amazon are fine for certain content. But for movies I'll always go with physical media.
I’d like to add something else: buying your favorite movies supports the studio more. When you pay $20 for a digital copy of a movie, only a portion of the money goes to the studio, but if you buy a $20 DVD almost all of the sales go to the studio, so if there’s a movie you really like then buying the disc will help support them more than streaming will.
For example, right now the movie Alita: Battle Angel is one of my favorites, but might not get a sequel if it doesn’t make around $20-50 million more, but if it does good on BlueRay and DVD sales, it’s much more likely to get a sequel. Obviously this doesn’t apply as much to massive studios like Disney, but if there’s any indie films or smaller budgeted movies that you enjoy, buying the disc is always better for the studio than streaming, but streaming is better than nothing.
I like your point about supporting the indie studios! Thank you for commenting!
Great video.
Completely agree with you!
Will always support physical media.
I have to disagree about the "extras and gag reels." If you legally redeem your digital code you can view extras and gag reels on Vudu and iTunes, I do it all the time. That is really my only point of contention. I can not argue against the quality of physical media vs digital. However, I must say digital is getting closer in video quality but it will probably never catch up on audio quality tho. Great video.
I totally agree with you!!!
It’s a win win situation buying physical media.
Great video!!!
Thanks!
And - MAJOR POINT - I CAN LEND THEM TO MY FRIENDS! We don't all buy the same discs because they are so ridiculously expensive. You didn't mention this key aspect once! :)
The quality of streaming anything is poor in relation to the physical product even music, it's all compressed. I have yet to see any film on Netflix and Amazon Prime match the quality of 1080P HD never mind 4K. I only had Netflix for a month to which was free and after that month there was no way I was gonna pay to continue having it's service. I do have Amazon Prime but the only reason I have that is to save on postage and get things quicker. I can watch films for free on Amazon Prime Video with my subscription but very rarely bother watching it. It's pretty much very poor and I prefer the disc every time. I am not being funny but even the quality of your video here and most videos of those who do reviews and such on TH-cam are a damn site better quality than NetFlix and Amazon Prime and even those are compressed.
Thanks!
I like getting new UHD and Blu-ray, redeeming the digital copy, but I only watch the digital copy if I'm going on vacation. I always keep the discs because like you said you never know when a digital copy might be going away.
I'm gonna keep buying 4k discs,
Love my collection.
The rights to the disc is a big one for me. I’ve always been big on being able to “hold” what I buy, including movies and games. If I lose internet, I got the disc. Also, I read about an incident someone posted on the Blu-ray forum a while back. Not 100%, but he moved from Australia to Canada IIRC. He opened his iTunes up to watch a movie, but couldn’t. Turned out that particular distributor didn’t have the rights for Canada, so it blocked him from viewing it.
Also, you mentioned extras. Another thing is languages. My mother in-law doesn’t speak English and I have my Vudu account on their tv so the kids can watch movies. Unlike the discs, you can’t put on other languages. I don’t understand how digital movies cost the same, but give you less features. They’re getting better about adding extras (on newer releases), but don’t give the spoken language options that discs offer.
My final reason: I just love the look of my shelf with all my movies on it. I love seeing them on there, going through them like a library, and picking them off. Just so badass to me. Haven’t got a 4K player yet, but I’m looking into it. I like the convenience of digital, but I’ll never use it exclusively.
I totally agree with you! All your points are basically my thoughts exactly, you just better articulated them than I would have, lol! Thanks for this video.
If the film/tv series is really special to me then I will always consider buying a bluray copy of it to get all the bonus content and naturally, better video and audio. Only do this once/twice a year but Its super satisfying compared to streaming
I have over a thousand Blu-ray movies should I go out and buy a couple more Blu-ray players just in case ???
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I would look for a Cambridge UHD player.
Heavy investment but you won't regret it as the people who postponed buying OPPO player did.
It is definitely investment grade at $1800!
if you play games, XBOX 1 X and PS4 play Blu ray
Completely agree! Ever since I got a projector the need for Blu-ray has gotten even more apparent - streaming quality is so so much worse on a 120” projected image!
Great video explanation.
I like both and try to get disk + digital when. I can. There is no denying the quality of physical media
I completely agree with you. I'm glad TH-cam recommended this. I've been buying things lately because they haven't been on the streaming sites, etc. If I can't find it online but still want to watch it, it doesn't cost too much to just buy it online.
On top of that, you can’t really get the sort of quality audio and video, over streaming. There along way to go for that yet.
Many of vudu's movies have atmos audio. I really can't tell much difference on my klipsch 5.1.2 system.
Sir Jon Smith IIII did say quality, not quantity, there are many movies, even just on Netflix, with atmos, but even I can hear, that there is a difference, it will be better to buy physical media for a long time yet. 👍🏻👍🏻
13randon 13axter well, that’s illegal, and no doubt comes nowhere near the quality of a physical disc. Way to do the movie industry a solid👍🏻. Good luck not getting caught.
Got to have physical media! I have many terabytes of storage and rip my media to it, maintaining it all in a lossless format. I even rip my music to a FLAC format and then dump my entire collection to a 250GB iPod (upgraded internal hard drive) in ALAC format for portability. One of the problems with digital formats is that everyone seems to think compressed content is okay and they don't realize what they're missing.
Yep, hopefully there will be a renaissance similar to what Vinyl has seen.
I got Logan 4K on Black Friday for 9.99 😎 Best Buy ever last year 👍🏾
I’ve found Black Friday to have the best deals on disc especially the more expensive ones.
Preach. Laziness of not getting up to open a disc and inserting the disc. After streaming 4K for a month, I put a 4K disc in my Oppo and was blown away by the great quality and huge difference in the picture. Cheap key codes will continue to impact physical media. There will be challenges moving forward for physical media. I agree with you and hope it survives.
I agree I have bought every mcu and every movie I own on vhs/dvd/blu ray/4k
I will always prefer owning movies on physical media better than digital. I'll do everything I can to help keep physical media alive!
Thanks! I'm trying to do my part too!
Yes sir!!!
I completely agree.
I have no interest in paying for an endless subscription and own nothing.
I’m a physical media collector and will always support Blu-Ray, DVD, and CD. Agree with your video especially on those extras and ownership. Samsung I heard has decided to stop making Blu-Ray discs, leaving Sony as the largest producer of discs. The video that I heard this on also predicts the death of physical media in 5 years. God I hope not. I have a region free Blu-Ray player and buy discs of all types from U.S. distributors, but also things I can’t find except from the UK or Japan. It’s totally worth supporting physical media and let’s hope it stays around for years to come!
They predicted the death of vinyl records. Didn't happened, did it. Samsung made a very poor player without Dolby Vision support, which sold very badly as a consequence. Anyone who blames the market as a whole for Samsung's retreat, swallowing their excuses, never saw how bad that hardware was!
I am still upset that 3D blu ray is gone in the U.S. I have to order from Europe now to get 3D, I am going to be really mad if Blu ray and 4k go away too!
Oh, I understand that they will eventually go to 8k. I will then order from Europe for 4k, but I just want to still have a hard copy of my movies, not all only streaming! I still have my 3D TV and DVD player in one room and my 4k in another. I don't really plan on buying the 8k, at least not until it has been around for a while.
@13randon 13axter that is the reason .. until certain final versions exist permanently we can use torrent happyliy and later throw the harddisk away and buy each and every final high quality versions one day. hope it doesnt come when become old.
and now when i see the blu rays disc colecters on youtube they look dumbfor buying those many blurays and now they start buying 4k versions for the same movies lol. when 8k comes they will again repeat the same process. pitty on them
I still get reg dvd, unless i by chance get a movie that is blu ray-dvd-digital copy then i may try get the movie if want real bad that i can watch it in any format. it will be my first blu ray and more formats since i only get dvd for now. some people want the highest quality video possible and i know blu ray is just a bit more polished so to speak in details if u feel need to see everything so sharp i guess as a person posted a dvd and br picture from one movie years back. i wont waste rebuy same movie if i got a player that can play what i got. if u happy with a certain format then why waste bank on br and higher if u not need it right away. just do best u can with what u got, and be happy u can still watch it till feel a need to get any newer later.
Disney has lots of movies that are available on disc in 3-D.
I'm a physical media junkie. Games, records, laserdiscs and now I'm in love with blu ray steelbooks. 4K discs at least have the slips so I like that but apparently Amazon doesn't do slip covers dang it. Commentary has gotten a lot better. Director and star not the lightning guy and stand in anymore. Its about the art, instructions, better quality, whatever the reason I think it's best to have something rather than stuff floating in a cloud.
Great video completely agree with everything you said 👍
Thank you!
Dude thank you so much for that!!!! I’ve been saying this for years but people just don’t want to listen!!! Only people like you, me, and the people in the TH-cam community that upload collection videos know what we’re really talking about! They complain about physical media being expensive but that’s bull!!! I still pay $40 for some of my titles still! Not because I have to but because I choose to! If I see something I like and happen to be in Barnes and Noble or wherever, I buy it! It’s that simple. I work, I play. This is the only hobby that I have had my entire teen and adult life and I won’t let being a cheap skate penny pincher stop me from getting the movies I want my favorite format! I make no apologies about that whatsoever. All this talk about space and cost of discs and yet we’ve been doing the same thing now across 5 formats since the 80’s! People have just gotten so cheap and lazy that it’s ridiculous. I had a guy tell me during the dvd format wars that I should get a player with divix because he was too lazy to take a rental back to the store. Unbelievable!!!! That’s the kind of people that are killing physical media, the lazy asses that don’t want to get off the couch to change out a disc. It’s pathetic! Well anyway, to hell with them! That just means more discs and slipcovers for me! I’ll collect until they press their last disc. I still buy dvd, Blu-ray, and 4K Blu Ray. Thanks again dude! Keep the physical media flag flying!!!
Thank you for your passionate response. I’ve been so happy to hear there are still people like us out there keeping the physical formats alive! Viva la disc!!!! (I don’t speak Spanish so that’s probably totally incorrect!) 😁😁😁
Home Theater Hobbyist Hey man no problem! Your Spanish is on point also! 😁
Wow! What an amazing informative video. Thank you so much🙏
Thanks for watching and you’re welcome!
I have over 300 DVDs and Blu-rays, what am I going to do with them? I don't want stuff on my computer, I don't want stuff out there in the cloud that I can grasp I want to be able to, on any whim, pop in a disc and enjoy
While I agree with every point made and really even appreciate the technical aspect as well. The prices for UHD and 4K discs are just way to expensive. Usually I buy most of my digital media on VUDU as they often have really good sales and often have extra content including commentary and all the extras making it a lot easier. Still all your points are valid.
The thing with steaming even if you have the bandwidth is that's it's honestly good enough and really most people likely won't even be able to tell the difference unless they have a proper setup.
Yeah streaming quality is fine for most people, but apart from discs offering the very best picture and sound quality the other biggest benefit of physical media for me is availability. As a film fan if I hear about a great title I want to watch then a physical disc is the best way, because not only are there thousands of great movies not currently available on any streaming/download service, even those that are available often disappear again after a short time. Not a problem when you have the blu-ray, and they’re not that expensive. Due to the bit-rate even a 1080p blu-ray can often look as good as or better than a 4K stream, and after a few months you can get great deals on discs, they’re only expensive for a short time after release.
@13randon 13axter Nah, if everyone did that there would soon be no new discs for people to rip/torrent.
@13randon 13axter I've done that which was nice but the problem is the file size for one 4k Blu-ray is like 50gbs so kinda kills it for me since micro sd card storage is still very expensive and external HDD harddrives break easy
Discs are THE best. Just make sure they are true 4k movies filmed in 3k or higher and not 2k upscalers. Sooooo many of them are 2k, which is not 4 times the resolution of 1080p blu ray.
I was/will allways support Disc Media started with LASERDISC - DVD - BLU-RAY and since 2018 UHD
Thanks for continuing to support the various formats! I’m trying to do my part 😁
@@HomeTheaterHobbyist you are welcome
@13randon 13axter your choice not mine/our disc Media fan, beware of you can't take your money with you in to your grave!
My (UK) Sky internet/video drops out every time the phone rings or a high wind moves the tree in the path of the satellite and you can't rely on it being fast enough for Bluray or 4K at anytime. I buy all my music on CD and all my films/video on DVD/Bluray or possibly, at the price of it, in future, 4K discs. I can keep them all for ever, use them all and take them anywhere (new home, mates home, holiday in Spain, Croatia) - whatever!
will always buy physical. Great video man!
Unbelievable cannot believe it I've always liked Disc,over streaming the picture and sound quality is a lot better you don't have to deal with the streaming's buffering, freezing pictures while watching a movie Samsung is making a huge mistake.
Awesome video. I support the physical format and definitely Sanford & Son lol.
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I couldn't agree more. Between stuff not being available via streaming, not being able to watch it when the internet is down, I'll continue to buy physical media. I don't understand how so many people are content watching a movie on their phone or tablet.
samsung blu-ray players are not very good anyway in my opinion
What type of issues have you had?
Sony
No Dolby Vision Support
I've stuck with them for the blu ray and 4K players becasue they play PAL discs for some reason. I have a lot of region ABC discs that are PAL encoded but only Samsung player play(like German imports of The Burrower, The Last Lovecraft and Wolf Creek, all on blu ray, for example).
Agree. Horrible build quality, the world's worst ever remote control, a noisy fan and no Dolby Vision - those were the reasons for their poor sales, but Samsung prefer to blame everyone else.
I prefer physical products any day of the week, because you're in control of it you own it and it's yours, say if any of these streaming companies go bust or go offline you've lost all your content and cant watch it, it's always best to be in control what you own!