those boys know how to do it thank god for the boys from the communities good on you boys go safe and keep on rolling trucks make this country what it it is god bless the humble trucki his or her road train
IOR Petroleum's subcontractor Johnnie Bundy's very nice Kenworth T909 AB triple road train. I agree with the earlier comments, it's great you captured this rescue action for us. Driving on these roads are a tough job for man and machine, I don't envy the truckies at all. One bad move and they're stuck like this unlucky driver. Thanks a lot for this great video, I really enjoyed it. :)
Zsolti0NYM Thank you for your comments, yes I also felt sorry for the driver, lucky he was close to a community who were able to help. The locals are very clever to recover the truck, they decided to pull the truck backwards out of the bog and then tow the unit onto firmer road surface. The roads out that way are not very good, in need of some maintenance to sort out the corrugations and sand drifts. Cheers!
The through shaft is called a through shaft for the reason, it goes through to the rear drive. The right rear is your pulling wheel if Diff Lock is NOT engaged. Now, when you put DIFF LOCK in, it locks the front drive in. Then you can get into , front, rear, or both side lock. I'm not asking, i'm telling you. Been there done that.
Drop the back two trailers....get the prime mover & first trailer out. Then drag the drawbar of the second trailer around so it can be reconnected with the first trailer and the prime mover on level ground.... even if ya only yank out the back trailers one at a time....saves destroying a driveline when you don't need to.....
Yep, that’s how I’d tackle it. Would potentially save a lot of workshop time,and money in parts and labour. But great effort from all involved here,tough bastards all of them,no snowflakes out here!🤣💪
To clear up some technical views here about interlock power divider. when interlock is not engaged your driveshaft drives through front differential and supplies power to both rears what Rockwell calls 70 % front 30% rear then when you activate the Interlock switch you get both rear ends getting 100% available driveshaft power to both differenials. but if they are open or what we call conventional differentials one wheel on one diff will spin and one on the other will spin .now if you have locking differentials then basically all tires and axles are locked together .
Don't they have diff locks, then? would've thought that would be standard on a road train prime mover. Also, once it was rolling, I'd have been getting it off the shoulder ASAP. Also, less wheel spinning and pulling it back sooner would've paid off. Not that I've ever had anything that big stuck - but spinning wheels when the thing is not moving makes things worse whatever you're dealing with.
Albert6541 in the first place don't drive an American trucks in these conditions ... they have so less power and poor design that it will definitely get stuck.... just get a scania 6x4 and 730hp and it will never get stuck cuz it has diff lock and the driver has more control over the vehicle.......
Hey. Have a tv show where American truckers do the outback. Get stuck in mud & all sorts of crapp. Rainfall and torrential rain. You guys & gals. Awesome. Reckon a Aussie will win.
What a brilliant piece of video footage, showed us all the action in superb detail and clarity of colour. I really did enjoy watching that, kinda feeling for the driver myself. Those roads look so bumpy looking, and quite red in colour too! must be a nightmare to drive along for long distance drivers. Defo thumbs up on this beauty. :-) 5*****
Bevoin1970 It is certainly a bit different driving than most Truckies would do, yes the road is very bumpy and lots of red sand drifts. I was on the way home after a 500KM trip on rough roads so that truck had a tough trip in front of him, hopefully he got through without any more mishaps! Some of those roads are not used frequently so sometimes you wont see another car travelling during a days drive, pretty hard to imagine I bet! Thank you for your comments and I am glad you enjoyed the footage!
yea because logging roads dont get washed out from rain or snow melting and are cake! You obviously have no clue what your talking about...and Alaska is sorta part of the US so in 5 seconds I thought of two trucking applications that are pretty extreme just like the outback and I am sure there are many others..
If I was running "off road" onto dirt roads etc, I would definitely have a truck with lockers that truck doesn't appear to be using them or not have them at all
Probably has cross locks but not an interaxle lock up. Some units have full lock up some don't. On corrugations like that road you would quickly destroy your diffs if you used them for any distance.
Exactly - cross locks are only for off road vehicles here in OZ -- though of course your fully imported Scandinavian and European stuff usually have them as standard.
I see the problem, he's driving on the wrong damn side of the road... I'm kidding. Nice video, thanks for sharing. Lots of truck recovery experts in this comments section.
Everythingisgoingtobealright The real probably that someone stole the road surface. If they be kind enough to return it, no one will be charged for the prank.
he tried that before the machines arrived, if you noticed the angle the truck was on in at the start of video but if he had diff locks and power divider lock he would of not got stuck
mrfordfairmont it's the steer tires that pull him in when too close to the edge..having full lockers without assistance probably would have made it worse.
I really thought the off-highway trucks in aus would have locking diffs. The off-highway trucks in NZ typically have locking diffs, and often are tri-drive too.
They often also normally have a central tyre Inflation system. So in a situation like this, if locking the diffs didn't get the truck moving, deflating the tyres a bit to increase ground surface area wound be the next step.
Nerves of steel. A quite tricky situation actually, And that chain -- one tuff mutha. Personally I would have recoupled at an angle -- to give the drive a good chance of getting back onto the hard stuff. THREE CHEERS FOR JOHN DEERE !! Judging from the lack of flex in the tires it looks as if he is empty at the time vid was made.
when the first drive axle starts to dig a hole and pile up dirt infront of the third axle wheelsets .. back up the ramp of the hole and lock the brakes.. get something and push the dirt piles up in front of the third axle wheel set.. DO NOT reach in there.. use a branch or something to push it out if you are not forward thinking enough to have a modified Hoe .with the top corners cut at angles to fit between the tires better.. now you have no mound of dirt the third wheel set has to lift and go over.. the third wheelset will now roll down into the hole and give you a few more inches of forward acceleration to power forward and pull out of the holes dug by the drive tires. i totally agree that the truck was spec'd wrong. a Hoe is a garden tool.. usually really cheap.. a 2 meter pole handle and a blade bent down 90 degrees.. could snap right into broom clips mounted to the inside of the fairing .. makes me wonder also what it would take to smooth off the washboard road surface.. taking the top of the washboard.
anyone that does offroading knows its better to pull them out forwards if possible rather than psuh them out backwards. alkso pushing on the back with that many articulations is begging for disaster
@@Rocker-1234 no while pulling with the tractor put the bucket down and use it to help push the tractor. i live in the mud and run a backhoe every day.
hard to tell if interlock was working one wheel on front axle was could of been rear axle opposite side could have been spinning or driving especially when you have to open differentials.
Why does it look like he didn't have full cross locks on? Front axle spinning rear axle just sitting there? Usually when full diff and cross locks in everything drives.. did he forget?
Why the Hell when he was being hooked up to Tow did the Backhoe and the Truck not turn towards the center of the road where the surface is more harder and packed deep underneath. The other thing wrong is the Kenworth did not have axle locks or driver did not engage them. My old 2002 379 Long nose Peterbilt with 46,000 lb Diffs equipped with axle locks and power divider and diff Lock so that all 4 wheels have to spin before stuck, along with 18 speed Fuller Spicer Trans, 2400 ft. lb. Clutch and Cummins Signature ISX 600 HP would have pulled that Train. Bottom line Truck was not equipped right. In British Columbia we legally run Tri drive Truclks with axle locks and locking diffs so that all six wheels have to spin before your stuck. That is what you need to pull those Trains.
Air bags without full power dividers and locking diffs will screw you with a regular load, not to mention a goddam road train. Another helpful hint- when it ain’t moving, try something different, spinning the tires doesn’t ever make it better.
what might have made it a bit more fantastic if camerman had thought to show the most important detail....how deep were the left hand side wheels ...he never thought to show us that apparently...also why couldnt he disconnect trailers and pull one out at a time instead caning shit out of primemover
Presuming we are watching the extrication of loaded trailers (tankers) there is a pretty good chance that uncoupling the trailers would result in either the trailer sinking at an angle or falling on its side. In either event recoupling the trailers would be a difficult task especially since the dolly would also have to be uncoupled and recoupled - at least at the extrication phase since traction to the primeover (tractor) would be zip zero zilch with it still under the trailer. I think these guys have a pretty good idea of what to do and how to do it with the least effort, start at the bottom and work you way to the top and hopefully the rig will be out about halfway along the journey.
+john gnang Me either he should of been over towards the middle of the road as its harder than right on the edges, and he kept driveing on the soft edge too ?beats me why?
The middle of the road has corrugations, it is a fucking nightmare to drive on them, you are literally looking at driving around 10-20km/hr. A lot of drivers risk driving on the shoulder so they can actually get some distance done.
I thought some road trains had trailers with an additional engine. It doesn't appear as if this truck is 6x4, rather 6x2. What about reducing the tyre pressures to assist?
my K whopper has differential lock plus the interlock probley be a good idea to get diff locks installed best option yet in deep snow and loose sandy soil or dirt where just interlock won't be enough .
ghosties roadtrain adventures I was heading back to town after a 500KM drive on dirt, lots of bad corrugations and red sand drifts too, I hope the truck made it through ok. It was lucky he was close to a community who were able to get him out, some clever team work saved the day!
@@jaswindergalib no. A lot of highway trucks only have inter axle, but most if not all trucks in logging, farming, and this outback transport have full diff locks. I don't really understand why this one didn't, unless the front diff was a locker and the rear was standard.
I've pulled out many loaded semi-trailers stuck in ditches & bogged to the axels in my time on the road & much to my surprise not many know what a diff-lock or a power divider is. I had to tell & show them how to use it correctly. HOW DID THEY GET THEIR TICKET TO DRIVE ONE ?
BPW-trailer axles from Germany in the Outback ... good thing. Nice KW truck ! But one question: Aren´t there Dollys or trailers which are driven by own motor ? This would have helped a lot in such a situation. How much is the max. weight of a road train ? Greetings from south Germany
+roy hoco A nearby community the description says. Though i can imagine that 'nearby' means something like 20km over there :D I love the sun and the heat and the desertedness over there! Much better than the 10 months of rain per year of the Netherlands!
Both are drive axles, but the power divider is an interaxle x-lock meaning the opposite wheel on the the rear drive would've been spinning too. You can spec full lockers on both drives at time of manufacture but they've got a bad habit of overheating or blowing up if used excessively in conditions where the drive line can bind up i.e. full traction on all wheels.
IOR cart 2AB quads a lot so there's a good chance its like that to stay within length as a quad, you'll notice the drawbar on the dolly is really short as well for the same reason
@@paki20 wrong, he'd be 16.5 or 17 ton on the drive and 6 or 6.5 on the steer. When you've gotta set up for length limits you do it with the trailers and dollies. The turntable is exactly where it needs to be.
@@boxhead7180 yes the weights would be fine and the turn table appears normal but if you weren't from Australia which old mate doesn't seem to be, it might seem odd to have a tank so close to the cab
Now I am surprised a tractor set up to pull this much weight does not have a locker on the diffs or does have it and the driver does not know or maybe it is broke.
TY Rusty. I was surprised to see that the truck had one a single powered drive axle instead of the usual two. Considering the condition of the roads and the weight it is pulling,a single drive axle seems inadequate. Is that a weight saving device?
I'm sure both axles are drivers. They have what is similar to a differential between the axles. So when in soft ground it makes only one tire spin, much like in a car that doesn't have limited slip. Most trucks have an air switch to lock the axles together but it seems that this driver either wasn't able to engage the lock or wasn't smart enough to engage it.
+Roger Gordon While I was there, both rear wheel sets were spinning at times, due to the differential drive, the left hand rears spun more as they were less loaded due to the loose road surface. Maybe a diff lock might have been of some use in this situation?
@@rustymotor he definitely should have engaged diff and cross locks. No matter what weight is or isn't there they would have pulled out of that on its own done correctly. And every single Kenworth has it no weight savings in that...
lock diff '''''' one.... so used to dum thinking. i worked in that scrub for so long. why not de hich first trailer. or pull back from the start. wet cold season going from the jackets
Are the trucks that pull the trains specially built or modified? Or are they just plain tractor trucks? If they are different in what ways are they different?
they have no idea of how to get this rig out of a small bog, they have the right equipment but don't use it to it's full potential, look in the back ground behind truck that grass is called spinifex that is the best thing to get a truck out of a bog ,all that they had to do is use the loader to dig it out in clumps and put it under the trailer back truck in and drive off ,simple back in the 70's we used the same thing to get a truck out of a bog and he was in way trouble than this as he was in water and bogged up to axles and we got him out using spinifex bushes under the trailer and out he came ,turned prime mover around and pulled out his trailer ,just an empty flat top trailer.
those boys know how to do it thank god for the boys from the communities good on you boys go safe and keep on rolling trucks make this country what it it is god bless the humble trucki his or her road train
Well said
IOR Petroleum's subcontractor Johnnie Bundy's very nice Kenworth T909 AB triple road train. I agree with the earlier comments, it's great you captured this rescue action for us. Driving on these roads are a tough job for man and machine, I don't envy the truckies at all. One bad move and they're stuck like this unlucky driver. Thanks a lot for this great video, I really enjoyed it. :)
Zsolti0NYM Thank you for your comments, yes I also felt sorry for the driver, lucky he was close to a community who were able to help. The locals are very clever to recover the truck, they decided to pull the truck backwards out of the bog and then tow the unit onto firmer road surface. The roads out that way are not very good, in need of some maintenance to sort out the corrugations and sand drifts. Cheers!
Glad you didn't bag the driver 🤝 as said one bad move and AHHHHHH BUGGA
these guys are the proper truck drivers.
Always good to have a front end loader available.
i am surprised also not to get one from a nearby station
Superb video. Great that you caught this on camera. Not everyone would get to see something like this.
BloodySeaGulls Ross Too right! Right place, right time. Half hour either way would have meant missing all the action!
The through shaft is called a through shaft for the reason, it goes through to the rear drive. The right rear is your pulling wheel if Diff Lock is NOT engaged. Now, when you put DIFF LOCK in, it locks the front drive in. Then you can get into , front, rear, or both side lock. I'm not asking, i'm telling you. Been there done that.
Yeah I just asked the same thing why wasn't it fully locked up???
why didn't they split it up and take out trailers seperate
tractor, bucket should be right up, love the way Aussies help in the bush
Drop the back two trailers....get the prime mover & first trailer out. Then drag the drawbar of the second trailer around so it can be reconnected with the first trailer and the prime mover on level ground.... even if ya only yank out the back trailers one at a time....saves destroying a driveline when you don't need to.....
Yep, that’s how I’d tackle it. Would potentially save a lot of workshop time,and money in parts and labour. But great effort from all involved here,tough bastards all of them,no snowflakes out here!🤣💪
I can see why it was so important for him to be so far onto the shoulder. Traffic is insane through there.
Idiot
@@trr4488 no; humor!!
HaHa, get off the phone
Very exciting to watch!
To clear up some technical views here about interlock power divider. when interlock is not engaged your driveshaft drives through front differential and supplies power to both rears what Rockwell calls 70 % front 30% rear then when you activate the Interlock switch you get both rear ends getting 100% available driveshaft power to both differenials. but if they are open or what we call conventional differentials one wheel on one diff will spin and one on the other will spin .now if you have locking differentials then basically all tires and axles are locked together .
Yep -- but still does not answer the question -- why were they not engaged ?????
This truck has only inter axle lock, I dont think has proper diff lock,
Don't they have diff locks, then? would've thought that would be standard on a road train prime mover.
Also, once it was rolling, I'd have been getting it off the shoulder ASAP. Also, less wheel spinning and pulling it back sooner would've paid off. Not that I've ever had anything that big stuck - but spinning wheels when the thing is not moving makes things worse whatever you're dealing with.
Albert6541 in the first place don't drive an American trucks in these conditions ... they have so less power and poor design that it will definitely get stuck.... just get a scania 6x4 and 730hp and it will never get stuck cuz it has diff lock and the driver has more control over the vehicle.......
Kuntal Ghosh these kenworths are Aussie made and have diff locks and all that he just got too far off the road
You won't see euro trucks on remote dirt roads here,only Kenworth, Macks and western Star.
Hey. Have a tv show where American truckers do the outback. Get stuck in mud & all sorts of crapp. Rainfall and torrential rain. You guys & gals. Awesome. Reckon a Aussie will win.
Vidéo très bien prise. Bravo. Merci
No locked power divider or cross locks? Also as others have said, really lucky not to roll it.
at this angle and speed it is very hard to roll it but at higher speeds or in mud you got right (btw srry for my english)
@@krystianbabinski980 Good English!!! :)
What a brilliant piece of video footage, showed us all the action in superb detail and clarity of colour. I really did enjoy watching that, kinda feeling for the driver myself. Those roads look so bumpy looking, and quite red in colour too! must be a nightmare to drive along for long distance drivers. Defo thumbs up on this beauty. :-) 5*****
Bevoin1970 It is certainly a bit different driving than most Truckies would do, yes the road is very bumpy and lots of red sand drifts. I was on the way home after a 500KM trip on rough roads so that truck had a tough trip in front of him, hopefully he got through without any more mishaps! Some of those roads are not used frequently so sometimes you wont see another car travelling during a days drive, pretty hard to imagine I bet! Thank you for your comments and I am glad you enjoyed the footage!
Bevoin1970 in the us there is a 3 strike rule for crashing is there a similar one in auzzie for getting stuck also how do they reverse that
I Aus if you get stuck it's a slab. ;)
Next time try getting a load of dirt in the bucket to give you a bit more traction.
I gotta give a lot of credit to the Aussies. Trucking in the USA is like being in grade school compared to this.
yea because logging roads dont get washed out from rain or snow melting and are cake! You obviously have no clue what your talking about...and Alaska is sorta part of the US so in 5 seconds I thought of two trucking applications that are pretty extreme just like the outback and I am sure there are many others..
If I was running "off road" onto dirt roads etc, I would definitely have a truck with lockers that truck doesn't appear to be using them or not have them at all
Exactly- snow and ice and you would all die out there. Love from Canada.
It would have diff and cross locks meaning everything drives together. Yes it has it on the truck and I doubt he had them all fully engaged.
why did the driver not lock in the differential lock and have both axles/drivers working? The KW has the lock set up.
Probably has cross locks but not an interaxle lock up. Some units have full lock up some don't. On corrugations like that road you would quickly destroy your diffs if you used them for any distance.
Other way around. Virtually all trucks have interaxle lock but cross locks is an option and many don't have them.
Exactly - cross locks are only for off road vehicles here in OZ -- though of course your fully imported Scandinavian and European stuff usually have them as standard.
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Get a real machine not a lawn mower lmao SMFH
ONLY IN AUSTRALIA ! LOVE IT GREAT JOB ! U DRIVERS HAVE A PAIR ! 3 to 4 TRAILERS !THANK U >DRIVER FROM THE U S !
I see the problem, he's driving on the wrong damn side of the road... I'm kidding. Nice video, thanks for sharing. Lots of truck recovery experts in this comments section.
Everythingisgoingtobealright The real probably that someone stole the road surface. If they be kind enough to return it, no one will be charged for the prank.
that's what I always say : wrong side = English = outdated.
if he turned the cab unit at angle it would be less initial mass to pull and then once moving the momentum would pull the rest out...
he tried that before the machines arrived, if you noticed the angle the truck was on in at the start of video but if he had diff locks and power divider lock he would of not got stuck
mrfordfairmont it's the steer tires that pull him in when too close to the edge..having full lockers without assistance probably would have made it worse.
nah mate....the more the angle the harder to pull.......
Reverse is always a better option...after all he dug in a trench up front but had a ramp to back out of, plus reverse is a low heavy cog
Maka itulah aussie ini cukup cantik semua ada..gurun pasir gunung ganang...pantai cantik serta banyak lagi yang brooKU..
And this is why you don't drive heavy vehicles on the edges of dirt roads
I used to live in the table drains to get a better ride
@@bobtalbot2401 small roads are not an excuse , it the driver is not good, try an icy narrow road lol
Not full differential lock???? Only lock between axless?
Thats what i was thinking
Thats what i was thinking
here in norway ALL TRUCKS equiped lock differentials and axles because on ice we need
Might have had a diff lock on the front as well as an inter-axle. Not ideal. Best would be inter-axle and 2x cross locks.
H. 5
Diff locks?
I really thought the off-highway trucks in aus would have locking diffs. The off-highway trucks in NZ typically have locking diffs, and often are tri-drive too.
They often also normally have a central tyre Inflation system. So in a situation like this, if locking the diffs didn't get the truck moving, deflating the tyres a bit to increase ground surface area wound be the next step.
Nerves of steel. A quite tricky situation actually, And that chain -- one tuff mutha.
Personally I would have recoupled at an angle -- to give the drive a good chance of getting back onto the hard stuff.
THREE CHEERS FOR JOHN DEERE !!
Judging from the lack of flex in the tires it looks as if he is empty at the time vid was made.
they did before the video started
How'd it work back in the day when they could pull 5 all the time, in that same bulldust between Alice and Darwin?
Drivers were better.
when the first drive axle starts to dig a hole and pile up dirt infront of the third axle wheelsets .. back up the ramp of the hole and lock the brakes.. get something and push the dirt piles up in front of the third axle wheel set.. DO NOT reach in there.. use a branch or something to push it out if you are not forward thinking enough to have a modified Hoe .with the top corners cut at angles to fit between the tires better.. now you have no mound of dirt the third wheel set has to lift and go over.. the third wheelset will now roll down into the hole and give you a few more inches of forward acceleration to power forward and pull out of the holes dug by the drive tires.
i totally agree that the truck was spec'd wrong. a Hoe is a garden tool.. usually really cheap.. a 2 meter pole handle and a blade bent down 90 degrees.. could snap right into broom clips mounted to the inside of the fairing ..
makes me wonder also what it would take to smooth off the washboard road surface.. taking the top of the washboard.
why didn't they use the bucket. put it in the ground and use it to push
anyone that does offroading knows its better to pull them out forwards if possible rather than psuh them out backwards. alkso pushing on the back with that many articulations is begging for disaster
@@Rocker-1234 no while pulling with the tractor put the bucket down and use it to help push the tractor. i live in the mud and run a backhoe every day.
hard to tell if interlock was working one wheel on front axle was could of been rear axle opposite side could have been spinning or driving especially when you have to open differentials.
Correct, other side we havent seen it was spinning and agree open diff,
Why does it look like he didn't have full cross locks on?
Front axle spinning rear axle just sitting there? Usually when full diff and cross locks in everything drives.. did he forget?
Why the Hell when he was being hooked up to Tow did the Backhoe and the Truck not turn towards the center of the road where the surface is more harder and packed deep underneath. The other thing wrong is the Kenworth did not have axle locks or driver did not engage them. My old 2002 379 Long nose Peterbilt with 46,000 lb Diffs equipped with axle locks and power divider and diff Lock so that all 4 wheels have to spin before stuck, along with 18 speed Fuller Spicer Trans, 2400 ft. lb. Clutch and Cummins Signature ISX 600 HP would have pulled that Train. Bottom line Truck was not equipped right. In British Columbia we legally run Tri drive Truclks with axle locks and locking diffs so that all six wheels have to spin before your stuck. That is what you need to pull those Trains.
I assumed every truck in outback would have dbl lockers
Specially a kenworth
Air bags without full power dividers and locking diffs will screw you with a regular load, not to mention a goddam road train. Another helpful hint- when it ain’t moving, try something different, spinning the tires doesn’t ever make it better.
Spinning tha tires warms them up and gives better traction
Well the MEN did it.....they came up with a plan and it worked!😊
Yep.
My Kenny W900 has an inter-axle lock. Would have seriously helped here.
Only 1 driven axle on the tractor ?
Where the tractor in this video?
Fantastic footage.
RODALCO2007 Thank you!
what might have made it a bit more fantastic if camerman had thought to show the most important detail....how deep were the left hand side wheels ...he never thought to show us that apparently...also why couldnt he disconnect trailers and pull one out at a time instead caning shit out of primemover
right, this video gives no sense
Presuming we are watching the extrication of loaded trailers (tankers) there is a pretty good chance that uncoupling the trailers would result in either the trailer sinking at an angle or falling on its side. In either event recoupling the trailers would be a difficult task especially since the dolly would also have to be uncoupled and recoupled - at least at the extrication phase since traction to the primeover (tractor) would be zip zero zilch with it still under the trailer.
I think these guys have a pretty good idea of what to do and how to do it with the least effort, start at the bottom and work you way to the top and hopefully the rig will be out about halfway along the journey.
can't figure out why they stayed on the shoulder
+john gnang Me either he should of been over towards the middle of the road as its harder than right on the edges, and he kept driveing on the soft edge too ?beats me why?
Probably pulled up for a 'leak'.
Could've been as simple as having to stop for a tire check or had to dodge an idiot coming the other way and ended up on the shoulder.
Prezackly.
The middle of the road has corrugations, it is a fucking nightmare to drive on them, you are literally looking at driving around 10-20km/hr. A lot of drivers risk driving on the shoulder so they can actually get some distance done.
wouldnt it have been possible to unhook all trailers one by one and pull them out of the soft edge by the truck itself?
No! Would it be possible for you to watch it? 4:30 trying to disengage trailer with vehicle, not working. Anymore bright ideas?
I thought some road trains had trailers with an additional engine. It doesn't appear as if this truck is 6x4, rather 6x2. What about reducing the tyre pressures to assist?
Mining road trains yes not road trains that drive on public roads
my K whopper has differential lock plus the interlock probley be a good idea to get diff locks installed best option yet in deep snow and loose sandy soil or dirt where just interlock won't be enough .
6 rod n diff locks probably be the go out there ,I've been caught myself out in the table drain lookin for a break from the corrugations.
ghosties roadtrain adventures I was heading back to town after a 500KM drive on dirt, lots of bad corrugations and red sand drifts too, I hope the truck made it through ok. It was lucky he was close to a community who were able to get him out, some clever team work saved the day!
must split the tankers no choice mate.
very good
You not got full lockers on that just a power divider?
I think in Australia only interaxle locks use I dont think they have dif lock to
@@jaswindergalib 6x4 and no dif lock, whats the point of 6x4 then?
Diff locks and cross locks on those
They have cross locks and diff locks. It's mostly older prime movers that only have cross locks and no diff locks
@@jaswindergalib no. A lot of highway trucks only have inter axle, but most if not all trucks in logging, farming, and this outback transport have full diff locks. I don't really understand why this one didn't, unless the front diff was a locker and the rear was standard.
Unhook the trailers and pull em out 1 at a time?
My thoughts too 😂
Have to be on a level ground to do so
I've pulled out many loaded semi-trailers stuck in ditches & bogged to the axels in my time on the road & much to my surprise not many know
what a diff-lock or a power divider is. I had to tell & show them how to use it correctly. HOW DID THEY
GET THEIR TICKET TO DRIVE ONE ?
I know some of these guys suck, they should try ice road trucking in northern Canada, they won't move a foot
Why no diff lock on both drive axles? Obviously it had diff lock on the 1st drive but it’s ridiculous to not have it on both
Wouldn't' it have been more sensible to uncouple, pull each one, then reconnect...or is that not possible?
If you stop too suddenly or get bogged like this it can be a massive pain in the ass trying to unlock the turn table
Very uneven ground, and you have to the prime mover straight on
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you need the airlines. Loss of air will result in the brakes closing
BPW-trailer axles from Germany in the Outback ... good thing. Nice KW truck ! But one question: Aren´t there Dollys or trailers which are driven by own motor ? This would have helped a lot in such a situation. How much is the max. weight of a road train ? Greetings from south Germany
I am wondering where that backhoe come from way out in the outback
+roy hoco A nearby community the description says. Though i can imagine that 'nearby' means something like 20km over there :D I love the sun and the heat and the desertedness over there! Much better than the 10 months of rain per year of the Netherlands!
+Richard van Pukkem 10 months of rain ? could I interest you in a used boat.
He waits in the bush for such a thing to come along.
Would've been a long wait lol
they for in the sleeper cabins
WHY would you have lazy axle???? In those conditions?
Probably because a 3rd drive axle costs an arm and a leg and the company he's driving for don't wanna pay that sorta dosh to have a bogey drive truck
Both are drive axles, but the power divider is an interaxle x-lock meaning the opposite wheel on the the rear drive would've been spinning too. You can spec full lockers on both drives at time of manufacture but they've got a bad habit of overheating or blowing up if used excessively in conditions where the drive line can bind up i.e. full traction on all wheels.
What did they do to solve it? The truck was stuck and suddenly it can drive again. It seems the best part of the whole thing is left out of the video.
Wouw! Cool video of e road train...
Is it nornal for them to have the 5th wheel slide up so far? I'd imagine that's real heavy on the steers.
IOR cart 2AB quads a lot so there's a good chance its like that to stay within length as a quad, you'll notice the drawbar on the dolly is really short as well for the same reason
@@paki20 wrong, he'd be 16.5 or 17 ton on the drive and 6 or 6.5 on the steer. When you've gotta set up for length limits you do it with the trailers and dollies.
The turntable is exactly where it needs to be.
@@boxhead7180 yes the weights would be fine and the turn table appears normal but if you weren't from Australia which old mate doesn't seem to be, it might seem odd to have a tank so close to the cab
That loader had the power, but not the traction. I was surprised it got it out at all.
Why dont they have diff locks on road trains?
most do!
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Truck doesnt have a diff lock only has interaxle lock between front back axles, wrong choice of puller for this job
Why no pull the trailers one at a time and then couple them up
exactly
It looks empty.
By the looks of the tire sidewalls and the way the trailers bounce, empty would be my guess also.
dont use Diff-locks ? i'm wondering, to drive in this conditions without !
6x2 truck ???
nice roads you got there
why he don't drive more in the centre????
Centre can be chopped up, and looks pretty wild.
Now I am surprised a tractor set up to pull this much weight does not have a locker on the diffs or does have it and the driver does not know or maybe it is broke.
lockers cant help in a situation like that
You need more axles drivers you got one on a dirt road .
They would have used flat wooden logs on the rear wheels for grip.
It has not difflock or what?
1 axle no diff lock for road train on muddy road or sandy road i think it makes many trouble
I'm just asking but couldn't he have unhook the trailers and pull them out one by one just asking
No 2000hp nitro boosted War Rig?
We have cross locks most have cross locks and diff locks but all have at least cross locks locks one when on each side
On each axle
After being set free, why not drive in the center. Plenty of room?
TY Rusty. I was surprised to see that the truck had one a single powered drive axle instead of the usual two. Considering the condition of the roads and the weight it is pulling,a single drive axle seems inadequate. Is that a weight saving device?
I'm sure both axles are drivers. They have what is similar to a differential between the axles. So when in soft ground it makes only one tire spin, much like in a car that doesn't have limited slip. Most trucks have an air switch to lock the axles together but it seems that this driver either wasn't able to engage the lock or wasn't smart enough to engage it.
+Roger Gordon While I was there, both rear wheel sets were spinning at times, due to the differential drive, the left hand rears spun more as they were less loaded due to the loose road surface. Maybe a diff lock might have been of some use in this situation?
@@rustymotor he definitely should have engaged diff and cross locks. No matter what weight is or isn't there they would have pulled out of that on its own done correctly. And every single Kenworth has it no weight savings in that...
very supprised that backhoe could tow that train.
lock diff '''''' one.... so used to dum thinking. i worked in that scrub for so long. why not de hich first trailer. or pull back from the start. wet cold season going from the jackets
aaaand he's stuck again.2 km further down.
hmmmm I have pulled that set of trailers 003 :) and yes it is empty here
Hi sir I'm in SA but i like to how u guys hookup all that trailers, please give me advice.
So, you should have chosen the double axle diff when you bought it. 8 wheels driving instead of 4. Major weakness operating in loose surface areas.
Wouldn’t it have been easier to disconnect each trailer and pull them out individually?
No Dif lock?
like a mouse trying to pull an elephant =D
Hasn’t even locked the doubles in ..... numpty🏴👍🏻
Sir... Raise that trailer landing gear a bit and use diff lock
Would it be better pulling it all out sideways?
Mud flaps in front of front tires do what? How fast these boys travel in reverse?
Stops rocks being thrown forward into oncoming
Are the trucks that pull the trains specially built or modified? Or are they just plain tractor trucks? If they are different in what ways are they different?
They are built for the conditions the ones that are not fall to pieces on the dirt roads if the dirt roads are full or corrocations and bull dust
The backhoe could of done with a bucket of gravel for traction, they just about ripped the thing in two.
beat me to it!
why is only one wheel spinning?
Because of the way a differential works to provide power to the driving wheels.
whew I was beginning to think they needed a bigger backhoe or a smaller road train
How to couple all the trailers of abroad trains
I mean how to hookup all the trailers of a road trains
they have no idea of how to get this rig out of a small bog, they have the right equipment but don't use it to it's full potential, look in the back ground behind truck that grass is called spinifex that is the best thing to get a truck out of a bog ,all that they had to do is use the loader to dig it out in clumps and put it under the trailer back truck in and drive off ,simple
back in the 70's we used the same thing to get a truck out of a bog and he was in way trouble than this as he was in water and bogged up to axles and we got him out using spinifex bushes under the trailer and out he came ,turned prime mover around and pulled out his trailer ,just an empty flat top trailer.
good effort to pull that out with that small loader
SOme earth / weight in the loader would help a lot
@@hearttraveler1548 For sure, the bucket should of been full to help with traction.
Max could pull him out with his interceptor!
Could that trying is whatmade him MAD
Why is he driving on the side of the road?? Can’t use the middle?