The album they name checked at the end, The La’s eponymous album is well worth checking out. And the story of the album’s creation is a saga in itself…
I love this album. Ten story love song is a banger. Ian Browns albums area amazing. Oasis sounds like Stone Roses. There is a definite Manchester sound. Check out inspial carpets as well. Noel Gallagher was their roadie.
It's an Album of highs and lows... The best songs outstrip anything on their debut I have a particular love for "Daybreak"... any time when I'm driving and it comes on, I just end up looping it for half an hour (!)
Revolver Records are based in my home town. I went from college to the court to meet girls outside during the trial after seeing the crowd forming on tv :) I have to admit my own playing in the early 90's had that retro big reverb pentatonic stuff going on in lead lines. Mostly because I got railroaded into playing lead and could only remember a handful of shapes on the fretboard and tended to improvise the riffs until they stuck on a song. I think Squires influenced a lot of people who came later and a bunch who shared his own influences at the time.
You should defo check the las story they were perhaps the best band of the time for influence but it is defo the best stand alone album from Amy British” of the era”band that never really had a follow up and comes along with a great story
I liked the second album..took a little getting used to at the time, but definately grew on me. John Squire is one of the best guitarists of his generation :)
I was working at Rockfield Studios when the Roses went to Sivertone offices and seeing them climb out of their hired white Ford.. covered in paint and in very high spirits 😁
It was Revolver Records they done the paint job to, not Silvertone, it was in response to Revolver re-releasing Sally Cinnamon with a crap video that the band objected to.
Being a similar age as the band, I was amazed the first time I listened to Second Coming in the late 90s (I had somehow managed to skip listening to them before that); it is amazingly rich and textured, showing off the lads' instrumental, song writing, and studio skills, with lovely callbacks to the older blues/rock music they (and I) love, yet also steeped in the recently forged sonic traditions of EDM and Madchester. Folks should stop worrying about genre and fashion, and just make or listen to the music.
Every few years you'll see a story reporting that Robert Del Naja is Banksy, I don't know if he is but I wouldn't be unhappy if it was true. You should check out Tricky's Black Steel, a great track from the time.
John Squire snorted half of Bolivia during the recording of this album which is why the guitar solos are what they are. I love this record though. It might not be as ‘good’ as their debut but I’ve definitely listened to it more.
John Squire is a great guitar player, if you like the second coming 'Crimson tonight' is worth a listen. It's a live EP recorded in Ireland where they play a few tracks from the second album, and he really gets to stretch out. In the video they describe his sound as bluesy, which is definitely fair but I'd call it more Led Zeppelin-esque.
Both the first and second album by 'The Stone Roses' were excellent, but sadly too things happened the first was so massive any follow up was going to have a hard job of being better and the five year gap really didn't help, the U.K. music scene had changed quite a bit during that time.
Similar to this video please react to a “la’s” documentary. A band from Liverpool with a hit called there she goes and many more great songs that went under the radar.
Aged 16 I went to Reading '96. Stone Roses were headlining; but at 16 I only really listened to 'new' music. I'd heard of the Stone Roses, but they were an 'old' band, I didn't know any of their songs. This statement isn't entirely true, sometimes 'new' stuff was something we'd just started listening too, but it was new to us. I was far more interested in seeing Rage Against the Machine, The Prodigy, Garbage, Black Grape, Reef, Dodgy and Weezer. But the Stone Roses were headlining the last day, after that it would be over so I went to watch them anyway, despite indifference. I can remember quite liking the music, I had a slight recognition to some of the songs. Following the festival I bought the Complete Stone Roses (a greatest hits collection). Its only much later did I find out that Reading '96 was their last ever show (before the reunion); that Squires had already left, and their performance was considered a disaster and was legendary for how terrible it was. Its something people often tell me when they find out I was there; and all I can say was, I didn't notice. I clearly enjoyed it as I bought their greatest hits, It was the first time I'd knowingly bought a greatest hits album (turns out I actually bought Bon Jovi's greatest hits Cross Road two years before that, but I didn't know that at the time, I thought it was their latest album). Slight issue with the Complete Stone Roses is that it actually only contained stuff from their first album and the non Album singles and B-Sides. As a result of this I never actually listened to second coming. I probably know some songs through osmosis and obviously I know Loves Spreads; but in the main as an album it never registered with me at the time or later. Looking back though its clear that 1) I was pretty ignorant as a teenager (there was no internet; we only knew what our friends knew) 2) Stone Roses really lost out on the legal dispute. They should have released albums at least every 2 years when they started.
I remember being so excited for this album after Love Spreads had been released. When that first song came on I was like "Wow" and then Squire's guitar kicks in. Great stuff. Unfortunately Definitely Maybe had come out a few months before and The Second Coming sounded a bit flat next to that. It has its moments but music had moved on a bit whilst they were away. Shame they couldn't get together to do another album. The La's album is top but it's a bit polished compared to what the band were like live and they're another band that it's such a shame we never heard more from.
I loved this album, but that's probably i got into the band long after both of the albums were released. I wasn't locked into 1st album vs 2nd album, i was just shuffling songs from both albums and got a more "overall" impression. I still prefer the debut, but SC had some absolute tunes on it.
Best.Band.Ever, the first album is the best ever made, the second wasn't quite as good but still a masterpiece. Have a listen to them, the full albums all the way through and in the correct order, you won't regret it.
@ me, or whatever, but I think it's a better album than the first. They both have bangers, for sure, but this was more like finding an album from one of your dad's favourite bands that you'd never heard, and at that moment you realise and nod, yeah, your dad's smoked in his past . And "Begging You" is the best driving track ever* (*police notice: listening to the aforementioned musical entertainment whilst piloting a motor vehicle greatly increases the chances of losing one's licence due to an incorrect belief that one is Ayrton Senna. Stone Roses? The police say just Say No-ses. God, I love this album
Recorded What's the story at Rockfield shortly after Second Coming in fact they were bumping into each other in the local town.. The Charlatans were also around..
The album came out at the same time as the first Oasis album “Definitely Maybe” that was heavily influenced by the first Stone Roses album. Fans preferred Definitely Maybe. The Second Coming has some good songs but also has a lot of own goals such as the boring instrumental for the first song, an electric based song Beggin you and a hidden song after the album played nothing for ten minutes.
You should react to ren a once in a lifetime talent from the UK his music is totally different to anything you have come across it's not just music it's a movement 😎👍
I love Ren, I think he's a musical genius but my God there are hundreds of reactions to Ren on TH-cam! I suppose one more wouldn't hurt! At least JJLA knows his stuff so would appreciate Ren 😎🇬🇧✌
Great 2 nd album, just could never compete with the magnitude of the original, Squire was 'The' guitarist of his generation. He started another band after the Roses called The Seahorses, IMO their debut album was better than second comeing.
The problem with the album is not the musical direction, it's the lack of enough quality songs. It's half a great album - some brilliant tracks but also too much average filler. It didn't help that John Squire was seemingly the only member of the band making any effort to write any songs. The first album was all Squire / Brown compositions, this was 90% Squire. He did a great job but if Brown had actually bothered to write anything, it could've been a genuinely great album.
JJ - this has been bugging me for years + you may be the dude to answer it. Why does every American film/tv show that features a club scene have the same god-awful "dance" track that came out in 1990 on/in it? It's always that big synth thing that sounds like it was "borrowed" from the "don't pirate stuff" trailer DVDs had on them. Ecstacy used to be insanely cheap, bulk purchases for 20p/pill. I know so many people that went from doing E's to doing brown, a few cleaned up, the ones that didn't aren't around anymore.
@@JJLAReacts I know I’m hijacking the comment thread here but I cannot resist. The greatest bit of club scene music in movie history is Burnin’ in the Third Degree by Tahnee Cain and the Triangles. The entire Tech Noir scene in Terminator and the score was genius, literally changed sci-fi move making. Always baffled me her album was never given a wide release.
I don't really know their stuff so I can't judge the second album but as you say, so many great first albums where every song was a winner and then the second album was just meh...
Yeah right 🙄 Seeing as you can't even *spell* the band in questions name (stome??) I'm going to agree with you - it's an unpopular opinion but you're wrong. The Stone Roses debut album is imo, the best debut album EVER. Also they had some classics that weren't even on their debut ( Sally Cinnamon, Mersey Paradise, What the World is Waiting For, amongst many others). "Love is the Law" is an absolute TUNE but I find the rest of the album a bit self indulgent and guitar heavy. Loving all this Manchester Music content - great vid. I've never seen the original vid that you are reacting to so thanks 😎🇬🇧✌
@matt-fh6hb. Thanks for telling me what I can and can't do. If you had better taste - I might have listened. That's the msg I was *going* to write but I stand corrected - I was a bit snarky so sorry for that, it's not your fault I hate this time of year! I still think you're wrong! But I can disagree respectfully! Have a great day /night/life! 😊🇬🇧✌
This naturally brings us in the direction of happy Mondays and the rave scene....
Loved it. Loved The Seahorses too
John Squire is an incredible guitarist.
Loved it the day it came out & still love it today. A marvellous piece of vinyl. I have no idea on why it had such a luke warm reception.
The album they name checked at the end, The La’s eponymous album is well worth checking out. And the story of the album’s creation is a saga in itself…
23:05 John Squire is a very well regarded guitarist, considered one of the best in his era/genre. Tbh all of the Stone Roses were excellent musicians.
Yeah, he’s excellent!
Reni was exceptional, not only in an era of basic aptitude, but full stop. See also Matt Tong of Bloc Party. Genuinely great drummers
Bought Second Coming the day it came out, I always thought it was a great album, Love Spreads, Driving South & Begging You are bangers
'I'm Begging Youuuuuuuuuu!' *Hands in the air!!*
You should definitely listen to Ian brown's solo albums. 👍
My dad is a guitarist and I introduced him to the Stone Roses back in the day. We would listen to them on our car journeys. (I still do)
I love this album. Ten story love song is a banger. Ian Browns albums area amazing. Oasis sounds like Stone Roses. There is a definite Manchester sound. Check out inspial carpets as well. Noel Gallagher was their roadie.
Shaun from Shaun of the Dead likes it. And that's good enough for me.
Happy Mondays should definitely be your next step on the path of Madchester music 🎉
You’re always very astute… You get it. Nice👍
Seminal band, 2 awesome albums. You should check out the La’s too, it’s awesome
you should check out the trash theory video about the manic street preachers
I used to love cafe royal and the Hacienda
Before Liam Gallagher collaborated with John Squire, Ian Brown also collaborated with Noel Gallagher on his track 'Keep What You Got'
Great album!🏴
Yea, I think I need to check out the Stone Roses.
It's an Album of highs and lows... The best songs outstrip anything on their debut
I have a particular love for "Daybreak"... any time when I'm driving and it comes on, I just end up looping it for half an hour (!)
I love this album
you watched the other video about this record label situation. i remember it clearly! just rewatch it! :)
Revolver Records are based in my home town. I went from college to the court to meet girls outside during the trial after seeing the crowd forming on tv :) I have to admit my own playing in the early 90's had that retro big reverb pentatonic stuff going on in lead lines. Mostly because I got railroaded into playing lead and could only remember a handful of shapes on the fretboard and tended to improvise the riffs until they stuck on a song. I think Squires influenced a lot of people who came later and a bunch who shared his own influences at the time.
You should defo check the las story they were perhaps the best band of the time for influence but it is defo the best stand alone album from Amy British” of the era”band that never really had a follow up and comes along with a great story
👏🏼👏🏼just asked this myself, thanks.
I liked the second album..took a little getting used to at the time, but definately grew on me. John Squire is one of the best guitarists of his generation :)
I was working at Rockfield Studios when the Roses went to Sivertone offices and seeing them climb out of their hired white Ford.. covered in paint and in very high spirits 😁
It was Revolver Records they done the paint job to, not Silvertone, it was in response to Revolver re-releasing Sally Cinnamon with a crap video that the band objected to.
Being a similar age as the band, I was amazed the first time I listened to Second Coming in the late 90s (I had somehow managed to skip listening to them before that); it is amazingly rich and textured, showing off the lads' instrumental, song writing, and studio skills, with lovely callbacks to the older blues/rock music they (and I) love, yet also steeped in the recently forged sonic traditions of EDM and Madchester. Folks should stop worrying about genre and fashion, and just make or listen to the music.
Cool band.
John Squires' playing on Love spreads making you look like you've gone 10 bowls with Snoop is peak entertainment 😂
Every few years you'll see a story reporting that Robert Del Naja is Banksy, I don't know if he is but I wouldn't be unhappy if it was true. You should check out Tricky's Black Steel, a great track from the time.
Excellent album👍
I liked it
John Squire snorted half of Bolivia during the recording of this album which is why the guitar solos are what they are. I love this record though. It might not be as ‘good’ as their debut but I’ve definitely listened to it more.
John Squire is a great guitar player, if you like the second coming 'Crimson tonight' is worth a listen. It's a live EP recorded in Ireland where they play a few tracks from the second album, and he really gets to stretch out. In the video they describe his sound as bluesy, which is definitely fair but I'd call it more Led Zeppelin-esque.
Thanks for the rec! Yeah - very Zeppelin-esque, great point!
Both the first and second album by 'The Stone Roses' were excellent, but sadly too things happened the first was so massive any follow up was going to have a hard job of being better and the five year gap really didn't help, the U.K. music scene had changed quite a bit during that time.
Let us know what you think of the album if you have a full listen, mate.
The Stone Roses is the best British album of all time
This album is top notch. Some stiff from the fake media gave it a negative review and it stuck. Great album✌️🏴
Similar to this video please react to a “la’s” documentary. A band from Liverpool with a hit called there she goes and many more great songs that went under the radar.
Aged 16 I went to Reading '96. Stone Roses were headlining; but at 16 I only really listened to 'new' music. I'd heard of the Stone Roses, but they were an 'old' band, I didn't know any of their songs. This statement isn't entirely true, sometimes 'new' stuff was something we'd just started listening too, but it was new to us. I was far more interested in seeing Rage Against the Machine, The Prodigy, Garbage, Black Grape, Reef, Dodgy and Weezer. But the Stone Roses were headlining the last day, after that it would be over so I went to watch them anyway, despite indifference.
I can remember quite liking the music, I had a slight recognition to some of the songs. Following the festival I bought the Complete Stone Roses (a greatest hits collection). Its only much later did I find out that Reading '96 was their last ever show (before the reunion); that Squires had already left, and their performance was considered a disaster and was legendary for how terrible it was. Its something people often tell me when they find out I was there; and all I can say was, I didn't notice. I clearly enjoyed it as I bought their greatest hits, It was the first time I'd knowingly bought a greatest hits album (turns out I actually bought Bon Jovi's greatest hits Cross Road two years before that, but I didn't know that at the time, I thought it was their latest album).
Slight issue with the Complete Stone Roses is that it actually only contained stuff from their first album and the non Album singles and B-Sides. As a result of this I never actually listened to second coming. I probably know some songs through osmosis and obviously I know Loves Spreads; but in the main as an album it never registered with me at the time or later.
Looking back though its clear that 1) I was pretty ignorant as a teenager (there was no internet; we only knew what our friends knew) 2) Stone Roses really lost out on the legal dispute. They should have released albums at least every 2 years when they started.
I remember being so excited for this album after Love Spreads had been released. When that first song came on I was like "Wow" and then Squire's guitar kicks in. Great stuff. Unfortunately Definitely Maybe had come out a few months before and The Second Coming sounded a bit flat next to that. It has its moments but music had moved on a bit whilst they were away. Shame they couldn't get together to do another album. The La's album is top but it's a bit polished compared to what the band were like live and they're another band that it's such a shame we never heard more from.
I loved this album, but that's probably i got into the band long after both of the albums were released. I wasn't locked into 1st album vs 2nd album, i was just shuffling songs from both albums and got a more "overall" impression. I still prefer the debut, but SC had some absolute tunes on it.
the seahorses album is still one of my favorites of that time. listen to that! it is more beatles-ish and more sing-along-y than the stone roses.
Best.Band.Ever, the first album is the best ever made, the second wasn't quite as good but still a masterpiece.
Have a listen to them, the full albums all the way through and in the correct order, you won't regret it.
Another reminder that you need to watch 24 Hour Party People
The unfortunate thing with The Stone Roses that they waited 5 years to release their second album, by then the music genre had changed.
@ me, or whatever, but I think it's a better album than the first. They both have bangers, for sure, but this was more like finding an album from one of your dad's favourite bands that you'd never heard, and at that moment you realise and nod, yeah, your dad's smoked in his past . And "Begging You" is the best driving track ever* (*police notice: listening to the aforementioned musical entertainment whilst piloting a motor vehicle greatly increases the chances of losing one's licence due to an incorrect belief that one is Ayrton Senna. Stone Roses? The police say just Say No-ses.
God, I love this album
I agree that it's better than the debut, it's more varied in styles and I can't help but love the more rocky guitar on some of the tracks
I waited outside our price at 8am in the morning to get it.
We waited five years
Recorded What's the story at Rockfield shortly after Second Coming in fact they were bumping into each other in the local town.. The Charlatans were also around..
Please have a listen to the Anglo-French Reggae band L' Entourloop. I may have a cousin in there somewhere. Le Rendez-Vous with Tippa is a good one.
The album came out at the same time as the first Oasis album “Definitely Maybe” that was heavily influenced by the first Stone Roses album. Fans preferred Definitely Maybe. The Second Coming has some good songs but also has a lot of own goals such as the boring instrumental for the first song, an electric based song Beggin you and a hidden song after the album played nothing for ten minutes.
The L’as is better then the roses first LP…I stand by that statement
You should react to ren a once in a lifetime talent from the UK his music is totally different to anything you have come across it's not just music it's a movement 😎👍
I love Ren, I think he's a musical genius but my God there are hundreds of reactions to Ren on TH-cam! I suppose one more wouldn't hurt! At least JJLA knows his stuff so would appreciate Ren 😎🇬🇧✌
A lot of the 90’s music was a reaction against the negativity of bands like Nirvana
Great 2 nd album, just could never compete with the magnitude of the original, Squire was 'The' guitarist of his generation. He started another band after the Roses called The Seahorses, IMO their debut album was better than second comeing.
@@milton1969able I am glad to stumble across another The Seahorses aficionado in the comments. It’s a vastly underrated album. Shamefully so.
The problem with the album is not the musical direction, it's the lack of enough quality songs. It's half a great album - some brilliant tracks but also too much average filler. It didn't help that John Squire was seemingly the only member of the band making any effort to write any songs. The first album was all Squire / Brown compositions, this was 90% Squire. He did a great job but if Brown had actually bothered to write anything, it could've been a genuinely great album.
JJ - this has been bugging me for years + you may be the dude to answer it.
Why does every American film/tv show that features a club scene have the same god-awful "dance" track that came out in 1990 on/in it?
It's always that big synth thing that sounds like it was "borrowed" from the "don't pirate stuff" trailer DVDs had on them.
Ecstacy used to be insanely cheap, bulk purchases for 20p/pill. I know so many people that went from doing E's to doing brown, a few cleaned up, the ones that didn't aren't around anymore.
20p a tablet!!!??? Christ I bet your dealer was a very busy and very popular person!! 😂😂😂
@@neillasto7424 back in the days of free/warehouse/soundsystems... I'm surprised I've any Serotonin left :/
lol I really don’t know, but it’s probably a song with a low licensing fee (maybe free) or it’s owned by one of the big film studios. Just a guess.
@@JJLAReacts I know I’m hijacking the comment thread here but I cannot resist. The greatest bit of club scene music in movie history is Burnin’ in the Third Degree by Tahnee Cain and the Triangles. The entire Tech Noir scene in Terminator and the score was genius, literally changed sci-fi move making. Always baffled me her album was never given a wide release.
I don't really know their stuff so I can't judge the second album but as you say, so many great first albums where every song was a winner and then the second album was just meh...
Unpopular opinion: the Seahorses album by ex Stone Roses guitarist John Squire is better than anything Stone Roses made.
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Yeah right 🙄
Seeing as you can't even *spell* the band in questions name (stome??) I'm going to agree with you - it's an unpopular opinion but you're wrong. The Stone Roses debut album is imo, the best debut album EVER. Also they had some classics that weren't even on their debut ( Sally Cinnamon, Mersey Paradise, What the World is Waiting For, amongst many others). "Love is the Law" is an absolute TUNE but I find the rest of the album a bit self indulgent and guitar heavy.
Loving all this Manchester Music content - great vid. I've never seen the original vid that you are reacting to so thanks 😎🇬🇧✌
@@ChorltonandtheWheelies pro tip time for you. You can reply with your own opinion without being a total ass hat. Have a lovely evening.
@@JJLAReacts I did say it would be unpopular haha!
@matt-fh6hb.
Thanks for telling me what I can and can't do. If you had better taste - I might have listened. That's the msg I was *going* to write but I stand corrected - I was a bit snarky so sorry for that, it's not your fault I hate this time of year!
I still think you're wrong! But I can disagree respectfully!
Have a great day /night/life! 😊🇬🇧✌
you spelt overrated wrong
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Great video JJ, feel like that video missed too much out of the stone roses story - but some great insight