Lee Wei Ling and Lee Hsien Yang’s fight to fulfill LKY’s final wish

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  • @kennySg101
    @kennySg101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    LKY last wish should be respected! He has done much for Singapore. This is what we can do for him. There are many ways to remember historical moments. With advance of technology, we can make it more real with virtual reality.

    • @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p
      @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p หลายเดือนก่อน

      LKY's wish was wise. It was the only option for him, and the state would decide the fate of the house accordingly.

  • @bonsaijimmy
    @bonsaijimmy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Anyone who had read LKY's book ' Hard truths,' will be aware of his expressed wish to demolish his home because he abhorred hero worship. LKY also stated that his wife found it repulsive that visitors to their ' museum home' is akin to voyeurism . If politicians & Singaporeans wish to express their affection & respect to their founding father, they should RESPECT HIS WILL to demolish his home. As a compromise, a humble park with a small sign can replace their demolished home.

    • @marcuschonglanceanderson2390
      @marcuschonglanceanderson2390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We need a physical reminder and a national site to forever commemorate and remember the great legacy of the first PM LKY the man who built Singapore.
      I think it’s important that we have a national site to forever remember the founding father.
      Other countries have these national sites, Singapore should have one too.

    • @farrahkong1998
      @farrahkong1998 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@marcuschonglanceanderson2390
      His legacy is not confined in the little house.

    • @marcuschonglanceanderson2390
      @marcuschonglanceanderson2390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@farrahkong1998 it is

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcuschonglanceanderson2390 Founding father of? He sets the rule that he eventually cannot change and upset about? Don't double standards leh... LOL. Take a step back and think. Why do you think such event happened? Do you think it is unfair? Do you think a person is greater than a country? I think that the series of events / problems were created by the very same man you praised. If he didn't rule with iron fist, do you think there is still issues right now?

    • @mr.g702
      @mr.g702 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said! There are some people out there who think in unusual ways, even some who do so despite having received a sound education.

  • @lookingaheadoftime
    @lookingaheadoftime หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Instead of paying attributes to the people and singaporean that have built up this country, we have leaders whose family make use of the parliament to settle their family affair.
    The parliament should be a place to discuss subject that concern the lives and the well being of its citizen - whether it is the past or the future, but instead - our parliament have become a place to discuss the private affairs of leader.
    Why not choose leaders that pay attributes to the citizens, how can we take our old citizen off the streets? How can we improve the wellfare of those who have retired.

  • @jessiechew4192
    @jessiechew4192 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Nation will still respect his father the founder not the house and not the son

  • @franciscody9622
    @franciscody9622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    LKY's wish should be respected and followed.

    • @xijinpig7978
      @xijinpig7978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      his dishonorable eldest son
      Never let your son marry a girl like ho ching

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LKY's wish vs SG law. Which one comes first?

    • @franciscody9622
      @franciscody9622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dimitrilin9312 There is discretion in applying the law. Let that sink in.

    • @xijinpig7978
      @xijinpig7978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@franciscody9622 Lee Hsien loong was a good boy even during his first marriage with a golden heart surgeon wife. But remarry he went astray
      Now naughty boy

    • @xijinpig7978
      @xijinpig7978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lesson here, mix with good people stay good boy

  • @slwong1688
    @slwong1688 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    No. 38 Oxley Rd belongs to Lee Hsien Yang, leave it to him what he wants to do with it. Others don't interfere.

    • @elsieyong703
      @elsieyong703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      100% correct. It is a private house..

  • @chriskoi01
    @chriskoi01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The man has done much for Singapore. We should all learn from his lesson to us about hero worship (rather not to follow such pursuit). Despite how much we feel we need to pay tribute to him (turning his home into a museum, build a public monument etc). Let’s respect the man for his wishes and not impose our personal feelings and/or views on the issue. 🙏🏻

    • @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p
      @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p หลายเดือนก่อน

      He could not wish otherwise, which would attract criticism and opposition ftom those who opposed him and liked to erase him out. Retaining the old house of the great statesman of an era by the state offers the greatest respect he deserved. It is not hero worship.

  • @beelichoong2143
    @beelichoong2143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Honour thy father & mother!
    Parent's wishes MUST be HONOURED !
    End of story .

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As per LKY's will, had all the conditions been met before Dr. Lee's death?

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anjalikastarr2824 Your stupidity is beyond my comprehension. Law vs Will, which one rules over? You can waste your time to write 1000000 wills, nothing will change if the law of the country says otherwise. Learn to respect the law, nobody is above the law!

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dimitrilin9312
      My stupidity or your poor comprehension of English.
      I was questioning OP in the call to honor LKY's will.
      Even before Dr.Lee's death, Hsein Yang and his supporters here were calling for LKY's will to be respected. What these people
      have done is to ignore other portions of the will. LKY had explicitly stated that in the event the prevailing law prevents demolition, the house may never be opened to others except his children, their families and descendants. Now let's see whether there is any change to the law.
      Next time read and understand before you start foaming at the mouth and going rabid.

    • @reggie5476
      @reggie5476 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If Lee Wei Ling so honoured her parents' wishes she should have moved out immediately after her father's death so that their wish may be carried out. But she has been staying put in the house while all the while accusing LHL of not honouring their parents' wish. It has been 9 years since LKY died. If not for her illness she may be living in the house longer.
      The house should be destroyed only after LHL has died since it can wait for LWL to die. It need not be opened to the public as LKY desired but family members can visit and enjoy their parents' and childhood home and maybe reconcile

  • @noelkwek
    @noelkwek 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please do not demolish this monumental residential private property. It must be left for future generations of interested Singaporeans to enter as registered visitors through the National Heritage Board (NHB) / Singapore Tourism Board (STB) to discover artifacts of historical political value linking the founding leader and father, the former first PM of Singapore, the late Mr. Lee Kuan Yew who left behind his legacy of forming the ruling government, the People's Action Party (PAP).

  • @Whatisnottaken
    @Whatisnottaken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I see most of the comments here have totally disregarded other details of Lee Kuan Yew’s will. In the will it was stated explicitly that the house was to be demolished once the daughter, Dr. Lee was no longer living there, subject to there being no changes to the law that would prevent its demolition. Should there be changes to these regulations, it was the wish of LKY that the House may never be opened to others except his children, their families and descendants.
    Even long before Dr. Lee’s death, Lee Hsien Yang had started ranting about how his elder brother was against demolition of the house and made all sorts of premature accusations.
    I am a long time admirer of Lee Kuan Yew but I am not a fan of Lee Hsien Loong. I am here just to give an objective view of the saga.

    • @joekerr8334
      @joekerr8334 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LKY wanted the house demolished. He said that on video.

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Are you saying that LKY's Last Will and Testament should be executed based on what he said in some video? And not on something written that has all the details and conditions stated therein?

    • @joekerr8334
      @joekerr8334 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@anjalikastarr2824 Who knows what is real and what is not, kid ?
      I rather believe LKY's daughter and his younger son. Two vs One !

  • @vulcanken1273
    @vulcanken1273 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let that old man rest in peace and leave his family alone and fulfil his wishes to be forgotten as he desired.

  • @spiderjump
    @spiderjump หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    lky publicly stated he wanted the oxley home to be demolished eventually . simple as that.

  • @1badang
    @1badang 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Nothing great being the children of the former big man with this kind of relationship. A shameful one indeed.

  • @naramoon2745
    @naramoon2745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got Founders memorial on the way. Why so greedy for Oxley Road??? Choose one.
    So disgusting and disgraceful to use government resources to covert Oxley Road.

  • @papichoku2442
    @papichoku2442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A straightforward issue became so complicated. It’s all about pride, ego and self righteousness. Repent and reconcile.

    • @westwoodly
      @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rightly so. Where "money, pride and ego, power ..." are concerned, life and relationship can become very complicated. A simple ordinary person will not face such a problem.

    • @AnthonySng-c2m
      @AnthonySng-c2m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@westwoodlyAll Catholic Priests in this world because they love God more than Family and Money.

  • @nanhinting7447
    @nanhinting7447 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    While we respect the wishes of LKY whom we held in high regards, the government at the same time must not forget to tackle the high costs of living that many Singaporeans face.

  • @scsim60
    @scsim60 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Presently, Is there anything else stopping LHY from demolishing the house?
    If not, then why continue to make a spectacle of this ugly issue?
    LKY has made being a Singaporean proud, but this public family dispute is embarrassing us globally.

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      There is nothing to stop Lee Hsien Yang from demolishing the house now that Dr. Lee has passed away unless there are changes to the law. It is the younger of the Lee brothers that has brought disrepute to this matter all these years with his baseless accusations.

    • @scsim60
      @scsim60 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@anjalikastarr2824 Agreed👍

  • @thiamhuatang5109
    @thiamhuatang5109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr LKY wanted to Demolish the Oxley Road House, not to Demolish Lee's Familial Relationships.

  • @jesh1075
    @jesh1075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lee wei also last wish same as her father 😂😂😂

    • @westwoodly
      @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In the end, all became ashes in Mandai. Ok, some may prefer their remains to be Britain, USA or America.

  • @gha9543
    @gha9543 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last will and testament is a declaration of intentions of one’s assets after death. The executor of this will have been warned to remove the demolition clause. The demolition clause in the will has nullified the possession of 38 Oxley Road. Rule of law: When the property is demolished , the land returned to the state and the landowner has to pay for redevelopment.

  • @sheilakaur8119
    @sheilakaur8119 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    from this report, it seems that LKY was denied the opportunity to make his Final Will and Testament as he preferred and was tricked into leaving the matter of his 38 Oxley Road residence, ambiguous, upon his death. But is it the truth and is that the only truth
    a) If he was ambiguous about the specific matter, then the executors decide - says the law. But if it was ambiguous only in writing, but clear in spoken format, then what is clear supercedes as long as it is also consistent with his personality.
    b) but even if clear, the executors can choose to accept the command from the grave but can also choose to refuse to do it, but must, in good faith ie tell the court what they choose and why. So it has legal principle backing. And as individuals, they can preserve their point of view. But since the court must uphold the Deceased's wishes, it can then allow a court appointed administrator to preserve the Deceased's request ie do not break unique identity of the living nor the deceased.
    c) must the court abide by the Deceased's wishes on all matters, or only some. Ie do the Court, also have a final say in anyone's Will or is it over-reach in the interst of greater good that typically only means politics is not far behind.
    The idea that a person's Testament supersedes the person's written Will is not easy, because ink is heavier, and people say things they do not mean often or change their minds. But if it's clear, then there is nothing to debate - its clear, written or spoken, its clear. If we let the court decide, then it is very bad news from the the point of view of legal freedoms in Singapore. So the Lee boys must decide for themselves.
    Let's keep away from the gargantuan issue of rights of the deceased and focus on rights of the living.
    If there is clarity of intentions, then just ask those who know LKY best, (his own kids, grandkids, friends, buddies) and whom he trusted the most, to answer some basic questions:
    - was LKY a person
    - what did LKY say he wanted to happen with his 38 Oxley house after his death,
    - was it his decision to make
    - was he ever directly or indirectly told to not bother to make this decision coz it is not his decision to make
    - One quick test on authority of the 'hearsay' is: does it align with his personality at the time of his death ie he could have changed once he left public office
    - then ask: Do the Executors need to follow the Deceased's instructions or do they need to protect themselves from his instructions?
    Principle
    The Deceased retains unique identity as if alive. Each person alive also has unique identity. Each person evolves and their personalities may change, unique identities.
    Generally, the living has greater voice than the dead. That means that the Executors can choose to follow thru with the Deceased's instructions or to reject it. But they do not get to Ignore it. That is the basic rules of court. So they only need to make clear if they are Choosing not to follow through or if they do not know what the Deceased wanted and its as good as a coin toss.
    The Court can also question all grandsons and grand daughters, friends and buddies, and his closest confidantes if they know. And can corrobate with either side. But to do this, they must be granted protection from both sides. Can the court truly protect citizens or does the court itself want a say in the matter.
    And finally, the case must be tested to see if the SHC wants a say in the matter and wants the house to stand which is coincidentally what LHL wants too.
    And then finally, test if LHL is influenced by the Court, or did the Court influence his stand.
    So no, I would not bother to take this matter to court, because it is nearly impossible to penalise the Court even if they influenced LHL. So my view is that let LHY decide since he is not under the influence of the SHC nor any political group, even if he was not an executor he was close to his dad and probably knows what his dad wanted. And LHY could effectively close judiciary over-reach. And that is far far more important than anyone has mentioned so far. It also breaks the ties between Govt and SHC and could one day result in a higher quality SHC and Parliament. One day....when I do not know but breaking the link of Court to Parliament and Parliament to COurt, is pretty important. We dont want the Government nor SHC acting like a snake entering the Final Will and Testament of private individuals. And we definaitely do not want them ganging up on the people.

  • @chinkit7
    @chinkit7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why can’t wait until LHY no longer exist to let next generation to decide.

  • @wanocean
    @wanocean 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pls for all Singaporean set the spirited free......this was what was i in thne lyk wish...sorry i wishes i was with dr lee when she was there for me

  • @dennistan4663
    @dennistan4663 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sad movie always make me cry. Why, why, tell me why. 😮😮😮

  • @ewmurphy
    @ewmurphy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We shall see if the GOV flips from the "alternatives" mentioned in the past in a bid to mitigate vote swings in the looming election. The high cost founders' memorial is enough for glorification, show and tell.

  • @eymeeraosaka2954
    @eymeeraosaka2954 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a fruitless fight which he will not win....It is pointless to continue to tarnish the image of not only the good legacy of their father, the venerable late LKY , the Lee family of Singapore and also Singapore. Regardless of which interpretation of the late LKY Will is correct, ultimately the Singapore government, just like all government; has the final say. So please Lee Hsien Yang leave your grievance and bitterness behind.... Reconcile with your elder brother LHL and the Singapore government. Come back to your home in Singapore where you belongs....Life is short...

  • @kahhowong3417
    @kahhowong3417 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely the preeminence of private personal estates is absolute in modern constitutional democracies.

  • @thiamhuatang5109
    @thiamhuatang5109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr LKY would subordinate his preference to Government's decision. Now leave it to the Government.

  • @MsSkybear
    @MsSkybear หลายเดือนก่อน

    That land should build a condo that benefits the Singapore coffer.

  • @jasmineteo9883
    @jasmineteo9883 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Only the exterior of the house and the basement where meetings were held would be preserved The interior of the house (except the basement) would be gutted. LKY was open to this suggestion as Singapore history would be greatly enriched with his house preserved and becoming a historic house.
    RIP Lee Wei Ling.

    • @westwoodly
      @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do we need to preserve the house at all? Singapore had already a preview - or premotion - of what is to come late last year and early this year with the "LKY: THE EXPERIENCE". It was an interactive immersive multi-media exhibition featuring a lot of the LKY legacy and artefact including the car Lee Kuan Yew drove and others. It's was educational, fun experience for the kids and adults, and anyone interested in his life. It was more meaningful then just going to see a house at Oxley Road - unless it is turned into a museum with all the gadgets and exhibits akin to the "LKY : The Experience".

  • @westwoodly
    @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's a private family affair. Let it be categorised as such. If the government wishes to acquire it for whatever reason - as it has done for many private property such as for road or MRT construction, housing project, monumental preservation or military bases - it can do so with a simple stroke of the pen, just pass a law. Why so complicated? LHY and LWL make it looks so complicated. Many Singaporeans also had their wish not to vacate their home or flat which they had live all their live, but had to do so because of some government projects or purposes. Their wishes not granted. Ditto with citizens LKY, LHY and LWL

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are so young, so naive.

  • @dimitrilin9312
    @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What exactly is LKY's legacy?!?!?! When LKY was in power, he agreed to Land Acquisition Act, right? So why the double standards now? What about those who were forced to vacate their land in the past for Sg's development? LKY should have see this coming, and if he didn't, then he is not a man of great visionary as claimed by the state media. A man so well-versed in the English literature didn't know the ending to each and every family rivalry stories? What an overrated person....

    • @westwoodly
      @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You don't know? So sad. You are not a Singaporean. It's ok if you have not watched videos of him on TV, on state visits, world platforms and so on. Simply note who are the world leaders and VIPs who attended his funeral.

    • @rockingrouge7050
      @rockingrouge7050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LKY wanted to demolished his house as an happy ending. Nobody expected Siblings Rivalry with LHL continuations to fight on. Don't blame LKY as you may see the misadventures after your own death. You point is not on the correct direction 🖕

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In every country there are similar land acquisition acts to serve public interest. Highways and rail lines have to be built or there would be no development. LKY left nothing out in his will. He didn't want his house to be preserved to honour him after his death. Get your facts right before you vent your frustrations here.

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anjalikastarr2824 Oh, so what is the issue now??? Use your pea brain to think and reply. Stop embarrassing yourself. Go and do your homework! You are too overly sensitive to think that I am frustrated. Sorry, I am NOT! Hahahahahaha.. So you mean the power of a will >>> Land acquisition act? Your level of understanding is beyond my ability to comprehend. LOL

    • @dimitrilin9312
      @dimitrilin9312 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@westwoodly Is he your father, someone related to you? Poor you for such a busy body and getting all rile up over a complete stranger. Go and do something more meaningful in your life! And no, won't be watching ANY videos of him. Guess you have not heard of the term "diplomatic". You measure the quality of a person by the VIPs who attended funerals??? LOL.. My toes are laughing!

  • @jackll7653
    @jackll7653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is their family matters. Why Mr LHY was in opposition not PAP? Mr LKY must be very sad to see this if he is still with us.

  • @eljfish
    @eljfish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    karma

  • @stargazeronesixseven
    @stargazeronesixseven 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    😮 With great respect to All Sides ... Founding Prime Minister of Singapore , Lee Kuan Yew & wife should had the 38 , Oxley Road family house be mandated to be upgraded & preserved as a reminder of Singapore early struggles as a Nation State , thus avoided all these ugly family disagreements that divided siblings & family members ... A lesson for all of us to prepared & settled our possessions to the next generations happily when we are still alive so that , after our respective departures , hopefully there will be less issues ... 🙏🕯🌏✌💜🕊

    • @rockingrouge7050
      @rockingrouge7050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are NOT OBEDIENT to your Parent's dying wish 👎👎👎

    • @elsieyong703
      @elsieyong703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LKy did say to demolish the house!!

  • @AlphaSorceror
    @AlphaSorceror 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s just an estate. Gosh.

  • @Petechew-k1s
    @Petechew-k1s หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh dear. This case never gets solved.
    Jesus, be coming before the 38 Oxley road Solution comes in.
    Even my two sons very concerned about this case after they born in 2014 and 2016 hmm 😂

  • @theresapangkc3190
    @theresapangkc3190 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🙏🙏😤

  • @chansianfatt5104
    @chansianfatt5104 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    38 Oxley House!
    成也Oxley?
    败也Oxley ?
    Till lky resurrection fr grave only solved ?
    🤣🤪

  • @12321232123212321232
    @12321232123212321232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The house will not be demolished. The founder's memorial will still be built. Please move on.

    • @franciscody9622
      @franciscody9622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Why?

    • @Hs5687
      @Hs5687 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bcz LKY’s purported WILL has unresolved “issues” that likely to implicate Own Family members… Hence , never Challenged in Court but instead Whitewashed amongst Subordinates in Parliament… 😊

    • @marcuschonglanceanderson2390
      @marcuschonglanceanderson2390 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@12321232123212321232 agreed
      Long live LKY

    • @ongernie7216
      @ongernie7216 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Blind follower

    • @12321232123212321232
      @12321232123212321232 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is no why. This is simply reality. Local Singaporeans will not change their vote just because of this matter. GST vouchers are far more important than LKY's will, though of course no Singaporean will ever admit it.
      Like I said, please move on.

  • @rolandskelcher3774
    @rolandskelcher3774 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    38 Oxley Road SHOULD be preserved as Singapore’s heritage and of great significance in the founding of Singapore especially where the first meetings of the PAP and LKY took place. There’s a great possibility that the younger brother with the sister influenced-misled LKY when he was in a weakened feeble condition, unclear thinking to put his signature possibly without comprehending /seeing what he was signing.

    • @westwoodly
      @westwoodly 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Strike when he is most vulnerable. What about other founding leaders like Goh Keng Swee, S Rajaratam, Yusof Ishak etc? Why they do not face such a problem?

    • @anjalikastarr2824
      @anjalikastarr2824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very probable knowing that Hsien Yang is sneaky and a liar.

    • @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p
      @WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@westwoodly, The house have their traces as well.

  • @alangoh198
    @alangoh198 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Let the matter rest , we Boh Chat , family matters , MYOB