The last big influential band......that gives 'underground' music it's true meaning! Thanks lads (it wasn't just Ian!)...helped me through a tough youth!
as a person with bipolar disease this band had a huge influence on me and loved most all their songs. Knowing Ian's story I always get help if i feel really bad. not many musicians would of talked of it. His words spoke to me. I see it as a warning to be getting the help I would need. this band was so original in their sound. truly they belong in rock and roll hall of fame!!!!
Great documentary, great work. My favorite song is Decades, it heralds so many things that will hatch in the following years. I often think that Joy Division and Kraftwerk were the two acts who most influenced bands who emerged in the early 1980s
Excellent documentary. I know the Joy Division story fairly well, but this one added so many extra points I was not aware of, particularly of those early days. Fascinating to learn more about the unorthodox way in which Martin Hannett worked with the band
I have never heard of Joy Division until last year when I joined my current band. The founder was obsessed with them and was why he plays bass guitar. I'm a Gen Xer, too. I vaguely remember hearing Love Will Tear Us Apart when I was 4 or 5 ('80-'81). Then JD disappeared and was replaced with New Order. I do remember Blue Monday but never made the connection between the two bands because I was too young at the time. I went back and listened to JD with virgin ears (all their material was new to me except the one single). Took me a few spins to really begin to appreciate them and how progressive they were. For me, they were equally as important as bands like The Police because they had their own distinctive sound and depth to their songs. I also had no idea Bernard used the same model Vox amp the Beatles used on Revolver and Sgt Pepper until I found an Unknown Pleasures edition of Aclam's Dr Robert pedal. That gave me a new appreciation of JD. I had heard Bernard still has that rare Vox amp, too.
Wait, you are a gen xer and you never heard of Joy Division until last year, are you kidding me? What were you listening to during the 80s? Bon Jovi? Sorry, this floors me.
Well done. Was a New Order fan in the mid-80s, liked the synth-pop kinda stuff but has time has marched on, I've almost entirely gravitated towards Joy Division. Fave songs ... if forced, bounces between "Something Must Break", "Disorder", "Dead Souls", "Atmosphere", "Transmission" or yeah, "LWTUA".
I love Joy Division. It is hard to listen to a lot of them at a time for me. The sorrow that trails and story behind will bring me to tears. I watched Control last weekend and so many different emotions went over me. Their impact lives on forever. Seeing New Order live last year was a special moment. Tears flowed at the end when they played some Joy Division tracks. Their light show was fantastic!!! All those band members are goated legends in the scene. Video idea I would love a documentary over Siouxsie and the Banshees. Especially since they were an inspiration for Slowdive.
Peter Hook's band - Peter Hook and the Light, play many Joy Division songs, and if you close your eyes, you are at a Joy Division show. Way, way better than a tribute / dedication band. Highly recommended.
My first ever gig was Joy Division. November 1979 at the Colston Hall, Bristol. What a night that was ! I hadn’t even gone to see JD. I had Unknown Pleasures and the Transmission single, so I knew who they were, and was looking forward to the show. But it was Buzzcocks I had come to see. Now, Buzzcocks were great. They were touring the brilliant A Different Kind Of Tension record, which imho is a fine piece of work but still there were signs that the edge was wearing off a little. Their performance was wired and they rattled off all the singles and B sides plus many classic album tracks. But unfortunately Joy Division had upped the ante. Curtis was mesmerising throughout and the set was tight and intense. I seem to remember an extremely angry Sound Of Music. Then, 6 months later he had left us. What came to be known as post-punk was born but died in the same moment. Leaving the playing field open for the likes of The Cure and U2 to wander in and shape the sound of 80s odd guitar stadium music.
Yes, Joy Division was the only band that mattered regarding their form of goth punk in the Manchester scene, but don't forget that so much was also going on closer to London during that period. If you wish to find the true origins of Joy Division, listen to Kraftwerk, and also Brian Eno's song, "Third Uncle" and hear for yourself. The Clash may have been the only real punk band that mattered between 77 and 81, but the Jam, the Damned, the Stranglers and others had strong followings, and don't forget the members of those bands cite the Ramones and Iggy Pop as early heroes. When they returned, New Order crushed the dance scene and influenced EVERYONE from that point, but the "New Wave" sound from the Smiths, the Cure, and many others found deserved success. Punk to a great degree was dead by '81 but great music wasn't. Hope you didn't write it all off.
I love the visual style of this. The backgrounds for the photos and overlays were beautiful. The selection of photos as well. The edit flow, look and sound were superb. Narration too. My only critical would be how quickly you went through examples of Ian’s words. Somehow weaving it in such a way that there was a bit more time to absorb some of those words would have been better. But a superb documentary that makes me want to listen to those albums and look at the great covers by Peter Saville.
En Argentina, el italiano Luca Prodan, creador de la banda Sumo, siempre habló de la influencia de Joy Division. Y el Pelado sabía de música. Buen documental. Saludos...
Great documentary though i knew most of it already. Best songs for me are: New dawn fades and Decades with an honorable mention to 24 hours. keep up the great work!
I loved Joy Division. My sister heard me listening to some of the slower, darker, funeral dirgelike tracks on Closer and she wanted to have me institutionalized.😢
Not everybody’s gonna get it. And telling the wrong person “actually it makes it better” will increase the funny looks. But it’s true. When I tell you how I choked up when the No Dogs podcast can both say “these songs capture exactly what it’s like” and “I know from experience these feelings ARE NOT permanent.”
My brother introduced me to JD in the late 70s. On hearing the first album I knew only too well where the band was going as I myself had made a suicide attempt at the age of 13 some years earlier. After the second album I knew there was nothing more that could be said. They were either fake or deeply, deeply troubled. I'd occasionally go the the Electric Circus in the early eighties. On one such occasion, I was so angry I pissed on the dance floor on other dancers and in front of everyone else. To my surprise, Tony Wilson came over to talk to me, not in the least bit annoyed, and I soon found a crowd of people around the two of us. I had no idea that Ian Curtis had done the same thing maybe a year or so earlier and it was probably the reason Wilson had taken an interest in me.
I was awear of joy division in 1980. Them for me were incredibly different. I believe if Ian was still alive now they would be bigger than the Beatles and Oasis.. 💕
I thought this was going to be boring and just the same old same old info. IT IS SUPERB! None of the usual waffle and very few adverts 😌 informative and detailed with plenty of nuggets of great music thrown in. Hallelujah 💜✌🏻☮️
Good video. Allot of good songs by jd but would have to say new dawn fades and 24 hours are the best imo also (it surprises me that a band of 21 22 yr olds from Manchester who only made 2 albums in the late 70s early 80. Got so popular and have had so many of their songs covered for movies dead souls for the crow, new dawn fades for heat, etc
How many things can one documentary get wrong? Impressive
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I came from your old TH-cam channel and i was amazed at one comment you replied many times you were like 14 on first reply and 25 or 24 on the last 😯😵 time does fly
Oh wow! I remember that comment chain you're talking about. Thank you so much for following my journey to the SGS channel! Time really does fly, I'm nearly twice the age now compared to when I first commented that.
I actually don’t like LWTUA or Atmosphere- two of their most celebrated songs. Heart and Soul, New Dawn Fades, Atrocity Exhibition, Decades, the Eternal, No Love Lost, Dead Souls… those are the songs that are etched upon my soul.
Shadowplay just feels like the UK in 1979 - I spent a night in Manchester in the summer of '79 - but missed my chance to see them as I was 12 & traveling with my parents. So Shadowplay is always at the top - its space & menace are so good. And then, despite it being more accessible than many of their songs, "Love will Tear Us Apart" - always hits so hard.
Well done. It’s always hard but I guess necessary that in retrospect you see the utter combustive nature of the singer and his relationship to the band and his own existence that had been there all along it seems. Sigh.
Thank you Hobey! It's amazing how fast it all happened and how young they were. I think the idea of becoming a rockstar was so alluring that they couldn't see the warning signs.
Nar....a guy who obviously wasn't there to witness Joy Division. I saw them twice, September '79 and May 2nd 1980. Also Bernard built his own synths. He was interested in synths without Hannet. Bar humbug.
Great documentary! Closer is a perfect record. I’ve only ever listen to it all the way thru so it’s hard to pick a favorite song. Everyone always said it’s depressing music but it’s never been depressing g to me. I’ve always thought of it as super engrossing art. The best kind of art =] and here’s a few emojis for the algorithm 🌊🌊🏄♀️🏄♂️🛸👽🌌
Didn't realise Love Will Tear Us Apart was popular down here before England, first JD song i heard, was about 15 or 16, Day of The Lords is my favourite though. Saw Hooky in Sydney a couple of months ago, still smashing out the memories. *edit - good to hear a real voice and not a computer generated one which seems to be the norm on youtube docos these days (pun not intended).
Just yesterday i listened to "Closer", my favorite album, a thing that i only do once a year. Today you release this video. ¿Coincidence? I don't think so.
I've known the basics of this story for years, yet somehow you added so much more depth to it. Great vid man
Thank you 🩵
You said it for me.Thanks.
As a Joy Division fan I must say this was very well put together. 👏 RIP the poet genius.
That was by far the most in-depth documentary of the band made to date. Thank you:)
Never a bad track from Warsaw demos, to Means To An End and
Ceremony! I christened my eldest son "Curtis" in '87❤🖖
Stephen Morris said that "As you said" was the worst song Joy Division ever did.
You're No Good For Me is terrible as frankly, the whole July 1977 demo is.
Wonderfully done documentary. Love that you often include music samples to connect everything via sound.
Thank you 🩵
I can’t get enough of watching Joy Division/New order documentaries.
This was very in-depth and informative. Top notch work brother.
Thank you:) 🙏
Brilliant documentary
Takes me back to the days when I used to listen to Unknown Pleasures in the dark
Thanks!
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Thank you so much for the support, it means a lot!! 🩵
Was lucky enough to see them as a support band in November 1978 in London
Holy crap. Wow. Wow. One hell of a comment, dude. Lucky.
The last big influential band......that gives 'underground' music it's true meaning! Thanks lads (it wasn't just Ian!)...helped me through a tough youth!
Although I was born in the eighties, I only heard Joy Division for the first time in the mid-90s, it still sounds essential to my ears.
as a person with bipolar disease this band had a huge influence on me and loved most all their songs. Knowing Ian's story I always get help if i feel really bad. not many musicians would of talked of it. His words spoke to me. I see it as a warning to be getting the help I would need. this band was so original in their sound. truly they belong in rock and roll hall of fame!!!!
Thanks for this , I've learned more about Ian Curtis, RiP
Great documentary, great work. My favorite song is Decades, it heralds so many things that will hatch in the following years. I often think that Joy Division and Kraftwerk were the two acts who most influenced bands who emerged in the early 1980s
Nicely done mate
I love this documentary, genuinely a great experience. My interest in Joy Division has been growing for some time now and this is just what I needed
Brisk. Thorough. Professional. Good job. Subscribe!
You've definitely done your research for this - really well put together 👏
Lovely video. My personal favorite JD song is Autosuggestion. Their flame burnt bright for the shortest time, but their influence is still being felt.
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Great documentary, thank you!
Excellent documentary. I know the Joy Division story fairly well, but this one added so many extra points I was not aware of, particularly of those early days. Fascinating to learn more about the unorthodox way in which Martin Hannett worked with the band
Beautiful documentary !! Thank you for your hard work !! Cheers from South America !!!
Thank you for bringing joy to my morning
I have never heard of Joy Division until last year when I joined my current band. The founder was obsessed with them and was why he plays bass guitar.
I'm a Gen Xer, too. I vaguely remember hearing Love Will Tear Us Apart when I was 4 or 5 ('80-'81). Then JD disappeared and was replaced with New Order. I do remember Blue Monday but never made the connection between the two bands because I was too young at the time.
I went back and listened to JD with virgin ears (all their material was new to me except the one single). Took me a few spins to really begin to appreciate them and how progressive they were. For me, they were equally as important as bands like The Police because they had their own distinctive sound and depth to their songs.
I also had no idea Bernard used the same model Vox amp the Beatles used on Revolver and Sgt Pepper until I found an Unknown Pleasures edition of Aclam's Dr Robert pedal. That gave me a new appreciation of JD. I had heard Bernard still has that rare Vox amp, too.
Wait, you are a gen xer and you never heard of Joy Division until last year, are you kidding me? What were you listening to during the 80s? Bon Jovi? Sorry, this floors me.
Well done. Was a New Order fan in the mid-80s, liked the synth-pop kinda stuff but has time has marched on, I've almost entirely gravitated towards Joy Division. Fave songs ... if forced, bounces between "Something Must Break", "Disorder", "Dead Souls", "Atmosphere", "Transmission" or yeah, "LWTUA".
Great Angles of information I've didn't know! And I've seen plenty of JD docs!
I read that Ian Curtis was photographed wearing a Nektar T-shirt and now I have seen the photo thanks to this documentary.
and Neu!
That was outstanding. Such timeless music.
I love Joy Division. It is hard to listen to a lot of them at a time for me. The sorrow that trails and story behind will bring me to tears. I watched Control last weekend and so many different emotions went over me. Their impact lives on forever.
Seeing New Order live last year was a special moment. Tears flowed at the end when they played some Joy Division tracks. Their light show was fantastic!!! All those band members are goated legends in the scene.
Video idea I would love a documentary over Siouxsie and the Banshees. Especially since they were an inspiration for Slowdive.
Yeah a Banshees documentary would be awesome! I’m sure he’d add some interesting details to it 😊
They only really influenced Slowdive's name.
Peter Hook's band - Peter Hook and the Light, play many Joy Division songs, and if you close your eyes, you are at a Joy Division show. Way, way better than a tribute / dedication band. Highly recommended.
Of many of my loved Joy Division tracks…ATMOSPHERE is one of my enduring favourites. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My first ever gig was Joy Division. November 1979 at the Colston Hall, Bristol. What a night that was ! I hadn’t even gone to see JD. I had Unknown Pleasures and the Transmission single, so I knew who they were, and was looking forward to the show. But it was Buzzcocks I had come to see.
Now, Buzzcocks were great. They were touring the brilliant A Different Kind Of Tension record, which imho is a fine piece of work but still there were signs that the edge was wearing off a little. Their performance was wired and they rattled off all the singles and B sides plus many classic album tracks.
But unfortunately Joy Division had upped the ante. Curtis was mesmerising throughout and the set was tight and intense. I seem to remember an extremely angry Sound Of Music.
Then, 6 months later he had left us. What came to be known as post-punk was born but died in the same moment. Leaving the playing field open for the likes of The Cure and U2 to wander in and shape the sound of 80s odd guitar stadium music.
Yes, Joy Division was the only band that mattered regarding their form of goth punk in the Manchester scene, but don't forget that so much was also going on closer to London during that period. If you wish to find the true origins of Joy Division, listen to Kraftwerk, and also Brian Eno's song, "Third Uncle" and hear for yourself. The Clash may have been the only real punk band that mattered between 77 and 81, but the Jam, the Damned, the Stranglers and others had strong followings, and don't forget the members of those bands cite the Ramones and Iggy Pop as early heroes. When they returned, New Order crushed the dance scene and influenced EVERYONE from that point, but the "New Wave" sound from the Smiths, the Cure, and many others found deserved success. Punk to a great degree was dead by '81 but great music wasn't. Hope you didn't write it all off.
I love the visual style of this. The backgrounds for the photos and overlays were beautiful. The selection of photos as well. The edit flow, look and sound were superb. Narration too. My only critical would be how quickly you went through examples of Ian’s words. Somehow weaving it in such a way that there was a bit more time to absorb some of those words would have been better. But a superb documentary that makes me want to listen to those albums and look at the great covers by Peter Saville.
Thank you very much for your feedback 🩵🙏🏻
En Argentina, el italiano Luca Prodan, creador de la banda Sumo, siempre habló de la influencia de Joy Division. Y el Pelado sabía de música. Buen documental. Saludos...
thank you, great doc on a major musical influencer on my life
Great documentary though i knew most of it already. Best songs for me are: New dawn fades and Decades with an honorable mention to 24 hours. keep up the great work!
My favorite song is isolation or atrocity exhibition or ceremony
This was very well done.
I loved Joy Division. My sister heard me listening to some of the slower, darker, funeral dirgelike tracks on Closer and she wanted to have me institutionalized.😢
Not everybody’s gonna get it. And telling the wrong person “actually it makes it better” will increase the funny looks. But it’s true. When I tell you how I choked up when the No Dogs podcast can both say “these songs capture exactly what it’s like” and “I know from experience these feelings ARE NOT permanent.”
This is a great channel! You deserve way more views and subscribers 😊
Thank you 🥺🩵
Joy Division and Ian it's always on my life.
This video is essential JD history ...
Thank you Richard!
the visuals are so beautiful (as always)
My brother introduced me to JD in the late 70s. On hearing the first album I knew only too well where the band was going as I myself had made a suicide attempt at the age of 13 some years earlier. After the second album I knew there was nothing more that could be said. They were either fake or deeply, deeply troubled. I'd occasionally go the the Electric Circus in the early eighties. On one such occasion, I was so angry I pissed on the dance floor on other dancers and in front of everyone else. To my surprise, Tony Wilson came over to talk to me, not in the least bit annoyed, and I soon found a crowd of people around the two of us. I had no idea that Ian Curtis had done the same thing maybe a year or so earlier and it was probably the reason Wilson had taken an interest in me.
stained glass always delivers
Thank you Buh!!
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A truly unique and underrated band!
Was gong to see them in Toronto in May 1980.......
Fantastic thanks
Great docu guys, congrats!
great video , saw JD so many times in 78 -80 , only Paris Sur Baines album sounds like the band I saw ..... highly recomment it
I was awear of joy division in 1980. Them for me were incredibly different. I believe if Ian was still alive now they would be bigger than the Beatles and Oasis.. 💕
New Dawn Fades is my favorite.
everything a good , no , a great documentary should be. above and beyond...
It's pronounced "Noy" (like "boy") not "New".
Nice Job. EXCELLENT. Learned alot.
I thought this was going to be boring and just the same old same old info. IT IS SUPERB! None of the usual waffle and very few adverts 😌 informative and detailed with plenty of nuggets of great music thrown in. Hallelujah 💜✌🏻☮️
Thank you, we appreciate that so much! 🩵🩵
This is damn good. My kind of doc.
Good video. Allot of good songs by jd but would have to say new dawn fades and 24 hours are the best imo also (it surprises me that a band of 21 22 yr olds from Manchester who only made 2 albums in the late 70s early 80. Got so popular and have had so many of their songs covered for movies dead souls for the crow, new dawn fades for heat, etc
Followed since being a kid. Have watched most of everything related over the years. You’ve done a much better job than I was expecting. ✌️
very interesting .
LOVE LOVE WILL TEAR US APART AGAIN. CHEERS
Derby is pronounced Darby in the UK. Just to confuse you. Good video though.
That picture is NOT Broughton in Salford😂😂😂
How many things can one documentary get wrong? Impressive
I came from your old TH-cam channel and i was amazed at one comment you replied many times you were like 14 on first reply and 25 or 24 on the last 😯😵 time does fly
Oh wow! I remember that comment chain you're talking about. Thank you so much for following my journey to the SGS channel! Time really does fly, I'm nearly twice the age now compared to when I first commented that.
Well ,Love will Tear Us Apart but also ll
INTERZONE from Unknown Pleasures
Very good, very detailed!
Great video. Thank you. *Subscribed!
I actually don’t like LWTUA or Atmosphere- two of their most celebrated songs.
Heart and Soul, New Dawn Fades, Atrocity Exhibition, Decades, the Eternal, No Love Lost, Dead Souls… those are the songs that are etched upon my soul.
Absolute awesome video! Great to follow and so much new cool informations. Nice work! 😊
Hell is hell
I think you're a little too close to your mic. Very bassy due to the proximity effect.
Doooooshed
Peter Hooks band is so damn good. If you love JD or NO and you havent heard..
Their version of "Something Must Break" is better than the original.
Shadowplay just feels like the UK in 1979 - I spent a night in Manchester in the summer of '79 - but missed my chance to see them as I was 12 & traveling with my parents.
So Shadowplay is always at the top - its space & menace are so good. And then, despite it being more accessible than many of their songs, "Love will Tear Us Apart" - always hits so hard.
Well done guys!
Hey, go easy on 'The Heartbreakers'. That wasn't heroin BTW, they were on methadone and the UK tour was the cleanest they ever were.
Well done. It’s always hard but I guess necessary that in retrospect you see the utter combustive nature of the singer and his relationship to the band and his own existence that had been there all along it seems. Sigh.
Thank you Hobey! It's amazing how fast it all happened and how young they were. I think the idea of becoming a rockstar was so alluring that they couldn't see the warning signs.
Wow
Nar....a guy who obviously wasn't there to witness Joy Division. I saw them twice, September '79 and May 2nd 1980. Also Bernard built his own synths. He was interested in synths without Hannet. Bar humbug.
Great documentary! Closer is a perfect record. I’ve only ever listen to it all the way thru so it’s hard to pick a favorite song. Everyone always said it’s depressing music but it’s never been depressing g to me. I’ve always thought of it as super engrossing art. The best kind of art =] and here’s a few emojis for the algorithm 🌊🌊🏄♀️🏄♂️🛸👽🌌
Great history interesting
Didn't realise Love Will Tear Us Apart was popular down here before England, first JD song i heard, was about 15 or 16, Day of The Lords is my favourite though.
Saw Hooky in Sydney a couple of months ago, still smashing out the memories. *edit - good to hear a real voice and not a computer generated one which seems to be the norm on youtube docos these days (pun not intended).
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Hookys band is tight
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I was told that he’d castrated himself before hanging himself ?
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Just yesterday i listened to "Closer", my favorite album, a thing that i only do once a year. Today you release this video. ¿Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Peter Hooker
Hell yea
Peter Hooker & The Joy Divisions
Music for the soul.
I love you, Joy Division greatest band ever.