Scorsese has said in interviews that the reason the movie was made so that he and Deniro could work together again (they hadn't since casino). Deniro came to him with the book and Scorsese debated casting a younger actor but realised he'd only get to work the Bob for like a third of the time and the whole point was to work with his friend again
It's not poorly acted either, it's just that de-aging shit literally does not work lol. I took my brother to see that new Indiana Jones movie this last summer and what I couldn't get over was it opens with some de-aging effect on Harrison Ford when he's captured by the Nazis and they take the bag off his head, and it looks alright I guess, you can immediately tell something's off but it's not terrible, but then they fuckin' shine a flashlight right in his face and I couldn't help but wonder why they filmmakers wanted to make that so much harder on the poor VFX people because now you have like lighting effects on top of a de-aging effect on a 89 year old man's face that you're trying to portray as like 42 lmao
@@wafflcoptrthat flashlight bit was supposed to be like “Whoa! Look how good we did!” but it’s actually like “whoa did I accidentally stumble into a screening of polar express?”
Yeah the acting is amazing but I literally have no idea what age the characters are meant to be at any point in the film, save for the last 30 minutes. He just looks 50 for most of it@@wafflcoptr
@@samuelmair7191 The youngest De Niro ever is supposed to be (other than the very brief WWII flashback, where you barely see him) is around 40, at the beginning, and Pesci is supposed to be 56. Once De Niro becomes a hitman for them he is in his 40s. Everyone ages up from there. By the end, Pesci is supposed to 94 and De Niro ages to 83. The main middle part of the movie they are guys from their 50s to their 70s. Pacino is supposed to be in his 50s and 60s the whole time. There are NO youngsters in the film. I think people misunderstood that. I bought them well enough as aging from their 50s to 80s and 90s. It's about guys who are middle aged getting old and then super old. Moreover, if you see the real Frank Sheeran (De Niro's character) at just 43, he already had graying hair, was heavy set, and wrinkly. Hoffa (Pacino) always looked rugged, too. Pesci is a ringer for his character of Bufalino. Also, I wish they'd noted more that Sheeran claimed to have had a bad back and shoulder, from his time in WWII, and moved slouchy and clumsy. He tried to file a bogus workers' comp claim about his back when he was a truck driver in his late 30s. It was denied, and then he started stealing from the company, which led him to the mobsters. People talked about De Niro looking and moving old and stuff, but he actually fit the part of Sheeran very well, with all this context.
I don't remember which critic said this, but someone wrote that the deaging made sense since it was a movie told from the POV of De Niro remembering most of his life, and, when you remember something, you remember as the yourself you are now, you don't remember yourself younger, maybe slightly so, but not completely, even if you are remembering something that happened to you as a kid, which is someone completely different to who you are now, it could be ''played'' by someone else in your memory, but you still se the yourself that you are now in the memory. Anyway, I'm gay.
It makes sense for immersion's sake (ironically, because the tech really pulled you out of every scene) because having the same actor throughout adds to that
The Irishman’s replay value is so good. I mainly do it for four scenes: 1. The montage w the flamenco music and Sally bugs chokes the guy then the driver turns the music back on 2. Frank helping out Cuba 3. Gallo getting got 4. The meeting between Hoffa and Pro
Also Beansie getting whacked, the Anastasia getting whacked/Pesci’s store sequence, the Bo Dietl scene, and the prison bocci scene when they’re all decrepit.
Pesci's character referring to Deniro's character as "kid" made me laugh. Also when Deniro is attempting to kick the shit out of that guy with his stiff 80 year old legs... *chef's kiss*
I always justify the de aging by telling myself Deniros character is telling his tale so what we’re seeing on the screen is like his slightly warped memories since it’s hard to imagine ourselves young. It wasn’t intended and it barely makes sense but it works. The scene where Deniro is throwing kicks though is insane tho
It helps having the historical context of the film that he's a total charlatan. I know that sounds like a snide movie bro comment but I think it elevates the film.
I literally stood up with my hands on my head when that kicking scene happened. The CGI glass break. It's SO BAD how the fuck did Marty not see that, he must be going senile.
He hit the nail on the head with this review lol i rewatched it recently as well, and thought all those things. Definitely moves a lot faster once you’ve already seen it, but the de-aging thing is fucking terrible lol It kept reminding me of when they do flashback scenes in Its Always Sunny of Frank Reynolds in his youth, but it’s still just Danny Devito with a wig on lol
The worst part of the de-aging was DeNiro, any time he's moving around he moves like a 90 year old man. The scene where he beats down the guy that like offended his daughter or whatever is the most offensive.
Damn didn't know he was supposed to be 24 in that scene lmao. The whole movie seems to be a span of like 30 years starting after they are already middle aged.
You are correct, mostly. They are NOT supposed to be 24. De Niro ages from 40 to 83; Pesci ages from 56 to 90; Pacino ages from 50 to 63. They are all middle aged and then get old. They are wrong in the video above.
Scorsese said in an interview that the reason they went with the CGI de-aging was so that he could work with Bobby D and Joey P in-person again. He said if they had gone with different actors for the younger parts, he'd have barely gotten to work with these guys, and that's the whole reason he had even considered doing another gangster flick. He also said I'm gay.
Love The Irishman. One complaint I've never heard about it is Robert DeNiro playing an Irish guy from Philadelphia but talks like an italian guy from Brooklyn. No Phillie accent in the whole movie.
That scene ruined it for me. I wasn’t able to suspend my disbelief that this character who was moving with the agility and grace of a 75 year old man on a cold morning, because he was 75, was actually a 30-something mob muscle-guy and beating the mess out this store owner. It just WASN’T believable. It came off almost as parody, it was such an absurd visual. Marty was high as hell on his own supply on that one cuz that scene “didn’t work” soooooo egregiously that it ruined an otherwise decent, if not outstanding, film.
@@nedrobinson7490 yeah the way he holds his arm into his body & moves like an old man was just unreal & the only scene I liked in the whole movie was the assassination in the cafe, other than that was just a cringe fest
@@bruhdon4748 Calling something cringe instead of actually critiquing it is why Zoomers shouldn't be allowed to watch The Irishman. The only scene you liked in the movie is the one action scene where they shoot guns? Are you 14?
@@deathbyslipknot the movie is just shit, I’m a huge fan of Scorsese and de Nero but the movie was actually so bad & yes the only good scene was the shoot out because the rest of it was watching a geriatric old man pretend he’s 30
There's an interview of Joe Pesci explaining that originally for the movie Goodfellas Martin Scorsese wanted him to play the role of an older character, because he thought Pesci looked to old to play Tommy. But Pesci, begged and pleaded, even outsourced his own make up artist to make him look younger in the movie. Finally Scorsese conceded him the role, almost denying the world of one of the greatest characters ever. I think he remembers almost saying no to an actor because they were too old and he didn't want to make that mistake for the Irishman. But still, De Niro was just too old for this one.
The aging makes sense if you recognize that you have an unreliable narrator. i honestly think only the scenes with Hoffa are true to life, but what do i know, ive only seen the film once and im gay
'93 NLCS MVP Lenny Dykstra hooked up DeNiro with blow in the Carribean probably in the late 1990s... a TH-cam Dealer claims he was selling blow out of a bodega and DeNiro's guy brought him up to DeNiro's place to buy the coke... fax!!!
Scorcese said he realized if he did another actor for all the flashbacks, it would be like he wasn’t making a movie with his boys. Dude sacrificed the quality of what could’ve been his last film just to hang with the homies. And my gay ass couldn’t be prouder.
The Irishman is an incredible, solid movie but it’s big flaw is kind of insurmountable in a sense. I’ll never understand why he didn’t just use different actors for different scenes throughout the characters lives
@thomasreynolds3819 no I’m not saying it should have had no Deniro I’m saying like when it flashed back to certain parts why didn’t it use different, younger actors to portray his character? This is a story about a time throughout that Frank guys life. You can’t really have a guy who’s 80 playing the role of an 18 year old, or someone in their mid 20’s. It just doesn’t work even in this age of CGI anti aging graphics. It’s akin to if Scorsese tried having Ray Liotta play the part of 12 year old Henry back in the old neighborhood parking Cadillacs. It just can’t be pulled off.
@@korlu01Bernthal already played DeNiro’s son in that shitty boxing movie, he’d have been perfect for the younger version. Then practically age him up a bit at points, and young/age DeNiro at others. I still like the film tho, that’s really my only knock besides the Anna Paquin stuff.
It's not even that de aging is bad in general it's just the level of de aging scorsesee chose that's bad. There's a guy on TH-cam who did his own de aging deepfake side by side and it looked like goodfellas era De Niro which would have been so much more believeable/forgivable.
Somebody needs to fix the de aging in the Irishman and then it would be a near perfect movie. Sucks that one terrible creative decision ruins the film for so many people
This doesn't make sense considering the person on youtube was already working off of The Irishman's already de-aged effects. The challenge is making 80 year old De Niro look young, not Irishman De Niro look young.
The Killers of the Flower Moon was brilliant imo. I know some didn't get quuite what they wanted from it and some of the criticism have been out right ridiculous. People not getting the times like men coming out of ww1, that was ridiculously horrific so killing ain't much at those times and also heard reducing the character of Ernest a lot from his complexity (even if he is a simpleton). I don't think it wraps up neatly, but it didn't bother me and was actually just in very tone of the movie. Like there is no redemption and the same wheels keeps on turning. I knew from the trailer that the tone will be kinda like in Silence but then have the brutal Scorsese crime movie elements and it was that. So I wasn't waiting like any Goodfellas or The Wolf of Wall Street. Only thing was that Leo was earlier supposed to be King because irl King was around 30 and since Ernest coming from war he would be like a young man, the problem isn't the switching otherwise for them being older but it would be easier to understand how Ernest was so stuck to being manipulated and gaslit from his uncle. Easier to get when Ernest is younger and new to things, family is everything at the time, doesn't know how things go in the world and trusts his uncle, just came of the war even if being just a cook so he does know death. Then again the switch is good for obviously performance reasons but to kinda also the old freemason men aspect, people that are willing to do anything to get money to build these lasting empires that families are still here for owning right plot of land from NY at the right time etc. and not being able to be forced out from owning it. Still having huge leverage to.. everything they need to/want to/are in business into. The Irishman isn't a bad movie but it does have problems with the de-aging as we all know (they knew it will be a big gamble when they went for it, Scorsese himself said that it didn't quite work and also takes some glimmer from performances when you add the cgi face). Also having those actors have a lot to do with getting the money, like the marquee/draw being DeNiro, Pesci and Pacino in Scorsese movie. Propably his last mafia movie. I just think Al Pacino finally in Marty picture and he was easily the best part of it, clearly had come prepared for the role. I wouldn't say DeNiro was baad and had some good scenes, but he was a bit too timid for being the lead. Like come up with something that keeps you engaged to the guy. Stephen Graham was excellent, best side-role in it if you don't count Pesci. Like Pesci exactly was cool, calm and collected and did have those little things that made watching him very interesting.
@@deathbyslipknot ofc he didn't at the time when the movie wasn't yet out for marketing purposes.. when is the most interviews. Yet he still even then did allude to some problems and that the eyes doesn't work quite the same. Then later on he absolutely said that it wasn't something that really fully worked, went into how the arched backs was a huge problem and they had to get a guy to the set just to remind to keep back as straight as can and again was talking how putting the cgi mask takes something he cannot quite put a finger on about the performance. Ofc he didn't out right trash it because that's not how you talk about a project people have invested for you to do, but he clearly didn't think it worked as he hoped it would.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I've extensively heard him talk about The Irishman. I've seen probably every interview of Scorsese on the internet. He never said it didn't fully work. However during the promotion of the movie he did refer to it as a "necessary evil" if he wanted to have Pesci, Pacino, and De Niro in most of the movie.
Nick is being hit way too hard by this new war. Why doesn’t he talk about movies all the time instead of insisting that the war is what people want to hear about?
Jesus, really… just because of the bad de-aging? Are you 13? Because if that’s what qualifies as an awful movie I can’t imagine you have seen very many in your life
If you just have Nick talk about movies every episode again, this show will top a million subs by Christmas
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Wanna bet? I’m poor
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If hamas got to Adam the show would have 2 million by thanksgiving 🙏🏻
So many more Steven Seagal movies to review.
Nick needs a movie podcast already
*an Adam friedland-free podcast
With the Chapo guys. Will literally does one
So he can mumble a tepid observation like "the de-aging looked bad?"
You need a boyfriend already
nobody is gayer than me
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Nick needs to have a Tarantino esque talk show where he talks about how gay certain characters are and how that pertains to the themes
And his rating system needs to be measured in air raid sirens.
Scorsese has said in interviews that the reason the movie was made so that he and Deniro could work together again (they hadn't since casino). Deniro came to him with the book and Scorsese debated casting a younger actor but realised he'd only get to work the Bob for like a third of the time and the whole point was to work with his friend again
It's not poorly acted either, it's just that de-aging shit literally does not work lol. I took my brother to see that new Indiana Jones movie this last summer and what I couldn't get over was it opens with some de-aging effect on Harrison Ford when he's captured by the Nazis and they take the bag off his head, and it looks alright I guess, you can immediately tell something's off but it's not terrible, but then they fuckin' shine a flashlight right in his face and I couldn't help but wonder why they filmmakers wanted to make that so much harder on the poor VFX people because now you have like lighting effects on top of a de-aging effect on a 89 year old man's face that you're trying to portray as like 42 lmao
@@wafflcoptrthat flashlight bit was supposed to be like “Whoa! Look how good we did!” but it’s actually like “whoa did I accidentally stumble into a screening of polar express?”
Yeah the acting is amazing but I literally have no idea what age the characters are meant to be at any point in the film, save for the last 30 minutes. He just looks 50 for most of it@@wafflcoptr
@@samuelmair7191 The youngest De Niro ever is supposed to be (other than the very brief WWII flashback, where you barely see him) is around 40, at the beginning, and Pesci is supposed to be 56. Once De Niro becomes a hitman for them he is in his 40s. Everyone ages up from there. By the end, Pesci is supposed to 94 and De Niro ages to 83. The main middle part of the movie they are guys from their 50s to their 70s. Pacino is supposed to be in his 50s and 60s the whole time. There are NO youngsters in the film. I think people misunderstood that. I bought them well enough as aging from their 50s to 80s and 90s. It's about guys who are middle aged getting old and then super old. Moreover, if you see the real Frank Sheeran (De Niro's character) at just 43, he already had graying hair, was heavy set, and wrinkly. Hoffa (Pacino) always looked rugged, too. Pesci is a ringer for his character of Bufalino. Also, I wish they'd noted more that Sheeran claimed to have had a bad back and shoulder, from his time in WWII, and moved slouchy and clumsy. He tried to file a bogus workers' comp claim about his back when he was a truck driver in his late 30s. It was denied, and then he started stealing from the company, which led him to the mobsters. People talked about De Niro looking and moving old and stuff, but he actually fit the part of Sheeran very well, with all this context.
I don't remember which critic said this, but someone wrote that the deaging made sense since it was a movie told from the POV of De Niro remembering most of his life, and, when you remember something, you remember as the yourself you are now, you don't remember yourself younger, maybe slightly so, but not completely, even if you are remembering something that happened to you as a kid, which is someone completely different to who you are now, it could be ''played'' by someone else in your memory, but you still se the yourself that you are now in the memory.
Anyway, I'm gay.
It makes sense for immersion's sake (ironically, because the tech really pulled you out of every scene) because having the same actor throughout adds to that
Definitely gay.
Your comment was making me furious but you really saved it with that last sentence…also I’m gay
@@nsh1980 absolutely agree. Please shut this gay guy up!
cringe
It should've been made when they were all younger and de-gaying technology hadn't been banned.
The Irishman’s replay value is so good. I mainly do it for four scenes:
1. The montage w the flamenco music and Sally bugs chokes the guy then the driver turns the music back on
2. Frank helping out Cuba
3. Gallo getting got
4. The meeting between Hoffa and Pro
best character in the movie is the CIA guy insecure about the size of his ears
I've never seen it. I'll just watch those 4 scenes instead.
Also Beansie getting whacked, the Anastasia getting whacked/Pesci’s store sequence, the Bo Dietl scene, and the prison bocci scene when they’re all decrepit.
Highlight of the movie for me was bugsy talking about the " FALKING CAAAAWD "
@@tedbillings4871 💯.
Pesci's character referring to Deniro's character as "kid" made me laugh. Also when Deniro is attempting to kick the shit out of that guy with his stiff 80 year old legs... *chef's kiss*
When the door's glass breaks too its so obviously cgi.
“To treat an afternoon like a Gazan hospital” 😭😭😭
filled with bombs by hamas?
@@j.a.6310 Take your medication Cletus
@@j.a.6310 🤡
@@j.a.6310 the delusions are getting out of hand
Nick’s slow corruption of Adam’s show is coming along nicely.
Time to rewatch the Irishman review on ClangersTV
A classic th-cam.com/video/oM4vanudcNs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=axg1ilGZVegFUrTI
Pesci was the best part of that film. Nick's film knowledge is something that I love listening to, he's not a snob like many (not all) critics.
nick should kick adam off the show and have nostalgia critic in his place
robert deniro didn’t need to be de aged. He really passes as a 24 year old gay man to me.
I always justify the de aging by telling myself Deniros character is telling his tale so what we’re seeing on the screen is like his slightly warped memories since it’s hard to imagine ourselves young. It wasn’t intended and it barely makes sense but it works. The scene where Deniro is throwing kicks though is insane tho
It helps having the historical context of the film that he's a total charlatan. I know that sounds like a snide movie bro comment but I think it elevates the film.
@@All4Randomness1 I agree 100%
I literally stood up with my hands on my head when that kicking scene happened. The CGI glass break. It's SO BAD how the fuck did Marty not see that, he must be going senile.
He hit the nail on the head with this review lol i rewatched it recently as well, and thought all those things. Definitely moves a lot faster once you’ve already seen it, but the de-aging thing is fucking terrible lol It kept reminding me of when they do flashback scenes in Its Always Sunny of Frank Reynolds in his youth, but it’s still just Danny Devito with a wig on lol
The worst part of the de-aging was DeNiro, any time he's moving around he moves like a 90 year old man. The scene where he beats down the guy that like offended his daughter or whatever is the most offensive.
Idk why they didn't just use a body double or smn
Damn didn't know he was supposed to be 24 in that scene lmao. The whole movie seems to be a span of like 30 years starting after they are already middle aged.
You are correct, mostly. They are NOT supposed to be 24. De Niro ages from 40 to 83; Pesci ages from 56 to 90; Pacino ages from 50 to 63. They are all middle aged and then get old. They are wrong in the video above.
Honestly they even look too old in Goodfellas, in the first scenes that deniro and pesci are in where they're supposed to be in their early 20s
The real Tommy was 7 years younger than Henry Hill and Joe Pesci is like 10 years older than Ray Liotta
“There’s no candy” 💀
The true plot of The Irishman is “A swifty 65 year old joins the Mafia during the 1950s”
Damn, Nick from the top ropes with the hospital joke right out the gate
3:00 nick gives adam a look of the most pure disgust i've ever seen
I think that was just a thousand island stare
As a long life arsenal fan it pains me to see Adam in an Arsenal shirt ❤
Scorsese said in an interview that the reason they went with the CGI de-aging was so that he could work with Bobby D and Joey P in-person again. He said if they had gone with different actors for the younger parts, he'd have barely gotten to work with these guys, and that's the whole reason he had even considered doing another gangster flick. He also said I'm gay.
The de-downsyndroming thing was probably the funniest bit on this podcast so far
I couldn't finish the movie. Idk how he's watched it multiple times.
Nick looks like my dad circa 1985 when he got out of the Navy in the mid 80s
Thank the Lord Scorsese lived long enough to make Killers of the Flower Moon. I was worried he was gonna end his career with Goodfellas 2.0
The Irishman is on the same level as shit as many saints of Newark... calling it Goodfellas 2.0 is extremely disrespectful
@@scagnetti139maybe he meant 2.0 as in a number two. a big pile of 💩
wdym? Killers of the Flower Moon is his worst by far.
@@scagnetti139 You should be ashamed of your taste
Scorsese isn't an adaptation guy, maybe the Cohens or PTA would have done a better job
Love The Irishman. One complaint I've never heard about it is Robert DeNiro playing an Irish guy from Philadelphia but talks like an italian guy from Brooklyn. No Phillie accent in the whole movie.
Apparently he's gay and not Italian
Even more egregious when you know that DeNiro is actually only 1/4 Italian. His 3 other grandparents were all Irish.
He's literally 75% mick
the de-aging stuff is an homage to Who Shot Liberty Valance, it's some film nerd shit
lol no it's not
didnt take nick for a fjällräven man, despite his homosexuality
I didn't know they made clothes, I thought it was just tiny overpriced backpacks for white teenage girls.
I need nick to talk about the complexity of meet the feebles movie
Sodomy, you may think it rather odd of me/
Look out Itchy, he's Irish!
i still laugh at the "bitchassman" when it randomly pops in my head
Hes supposed to be 35 when he meets russel. I trusted you nick.
Adam somehow sits in the fetal position
It's expressing an unconscious desire to crawl back into the womb.
@@arturobandini4078nothing unconscious about it
The scene where he’s kicking the store owner on the ground is so cringe.
That scene ruined it for me. I wasn’t able to suspend my disbelief that this character who was moving with the agility and grace of a 75 year old man on a cold morning, because he was 75, was actually a 30-something mob muscle-guy and beating the mess out this store owner. It just WASN’T believable. It came off almost as parody, it was such an absurd visual. Marty was high as hell on his own supply on that one cuz that scene “didn’t work” soooooo egregiously that it ruined an otherwise decent, if not outstanding, film.
@@nedrobinson7490 yeah the way he holds his arm into his body & moves like an old man was just unreal & the only scene I liked in the whole movie was the assassination in the cafe, other than that was just a cringe fest
@@bruhdon4748 Calling something cringe instead of actually critiquing it is why Zoomers shouldn't be allowed to watch The Irishman. The only scene you liked in the movie is the one action scene where they shoot guns? Are you 14?
@@deathbyslipknot lmao I’m not a zoomer but ok bud
@@deathbyslipknot the movie is just shit, I’m a huge fan of Scorsese and de Nero but the movie was actually so bad & yes the only good scene was the shoot out because the rest of it was watching a geriatric old man pretend he’s 30
This is the content we need
i also watched the irishman remake in theaters now
When it came out, I turned it off at that truck scene 😂 I did end up watching it a few years later though.
There's an interview of Joe Pesci explaining that originally for the movie Goodfellas Martin Scorsese wanted him to play the role of an older character, because he thought Pesci looked to old to play Tommy. But Pesci, begged and pleaded, even outsourced his own make up artist to make him look younger in the movie. Finally Scorsese conceded him the role, almost denying the world of one of the greatest characters ever.
I think he remembers almost saying no to an actor because they were too old and he didn't want to make that mistake for the Irishman. But still, De Niro was just too old for this one.
My dream is for Nick Mullen to appear on an episode of RLM’s Best of the Worst
Mullen looks like my racist uncle who also has herpes.
wait, nick is wearing a Fjällräven sweater (swedish brand)?
nice :)
Can’t believe we’re discussing this again
It seems like they record this too early in the morning.
Guys I was in 2 scenes in The Irishman. They cut 2 others I was in lol
Pro and Giacolone's crew?
We need movie reviews back
The aging makes sense if you recognize that you have an unreliable narrator. i honestly think only the scenes with Hoffa are true to life, but what do i know, ive only seen the film once and im gay
'93 NLCS MVP Lenny Dykstra hooked up DeNiro with blow in the Carribean probably in the late 1990s... a TH-cam Dealer claims he was selling blow out of a bodega and DeNiro's guy brought him up to DeNiro's place to buy the coke... fax!!!
I 100% agree that younger actors just dont understand the mob and how mob guys acted.
Tbh The de aging cgi isn’t as bad as everyone makes it out to be
Great way to carpet bomb an afternoon… there’s something timeless about that; almost to a Rick Blaine degree of nihilism.
The Guyrishman
If only the part had been offered to gay actor Michael Douglas 😢
Never seen the Irishman, NEVER
Scorcese said he realized if he did another actor for all the flashbacks, it would be like he wasn’t making a movie with his boys. Dude sacrificed the quality of what could’ve been his last film just to hang with the homies. And my gay ass couldn’t be prouder.
Sheeran was born in 1920, so he's actually supposed to be in his mid 30s at the beginning of the film.
You've said the word "rewatch" four times this episode.
Nick Mullen. The man that could have been, but ditched his health.
is it just me or is nick way lower energy than he used to be?
That's the depression, it'll cycle into hypomanic fixation soon enough
The Irishman is an incredible, solid movie but it’s big flaw is kind of insurmountable in a sense. I’ll never understand why he didn’t just use different actors for different scenes throughout the characters lives
@thomasreynolds3819 no I’m not saying it should have had no Deniro I’m saying like when it flashed back to certain parts why didn’t it use different, younger actors to portray his character? This is a story about a time throughout that Frank guys life. You can’t really have a guy who’s 80 playing the role of an 18 year old, or someone in their mid 20’s. It just doesn’t work even in this age of CGI anti aging graphics. It’s akin to if Scorsese tried having Ray Liotta play the part of 12 year old Henry back in the old neighborhood parking Cadillacs. It just can’t be pulled off.
@@korlu01Bernthal already played DeNiro’s son in that shitty boxing movie, he’d have been perfect for the younger version. Then practically age him up a bit at points, and young/age DeNiro at others. I still like the film tho, that’s really my only knock besides the Anna Paquin stuff.
Where are there grandparents from?
Those are nice chairs
It's not even that de aging is bad in general it's just the level of de aging scorsesee chose that's bad. There's a guy on TH-cam who did his own de aging deepfake side by side and it looked like goodfellas era De Niro which would have been so much more believeable/forgivable.
Somebody needs to fix the de aging in the Irishman and then it would be a near perfect movie. Sucks that one terrible creative decision ruins the film for so many people
This doesn't make sense considering the person on youtube was already working off of The Irishman's already de-aged effects. The challenge is making 80 year old De Niro look young, not Irishman De Niro look young.
Please Nick please go do movie money with chapo
The Irishman wasn’t great. I’m still surprised gay Leo wasn’t in it.
Isn’t he technically, outwardly the least gay actor? You know, cuz of all the young poonani?
@@comfykeegs sir, do you not know what ‘gay’ means, in this, or any context? 😘
That was awesome. Remember when Nick talked about The Irishman on that really funny podcast Cumtown?
Arsenal is it?
If you de-down syndrome someone with CGI is that computer generated intelligence? Or AI?
Get that fixed, kid
The Killers of the Flower Moon was brilliant imo. I know some didn't get quuite what they wanted from it and some of the criticism have been out right ridiculous. People not getting the times like men coming out of ww1, that was ridiculously horrific so killing ain't much at those times and also heard reducing the character of Ernest a lot from his complexity (even if he is a simpleton). I don't think it wraps up neatly, but it didn't bother me and was actually just in very tone of the movie. Like there is no redemption and the same wheels keeps on turning. I knew from the trailer that the tone will be kinda like in Silence but then have the brutal Scorsese crime movie elements and it was that. So I wasn't waiting like any Goodfellas or The Wolf of Wall Street. Only thing was that Leo was earlier supposed to be King because irl King was around 30 and since Ernest coming from war he would be like a young man, the problem isn't the switching otherwise for them being older but it would be easier to understand how Ernest was so stuck to being manipulated and gaslit from his uncle. Easier to get when Ernest is younger and new to things, family is everything at the time, doesn't know how things go in the world and trusts his uncle, just came of the war even if being just a cook so he does know death. Then again the switch is good for obviously performance reasons but to kinda also the old freemason men aspect, people that are willing to do anything to get money to build these lasting empires that families are still here for owning right plot of land from NY at the right time etc. and not being able to be forced out from owning it. Still having huge leverage to.. everything they need to/want to/are in business into.
The Irishman isn't a bad movie but it does have problems with the de-aging as we all know (they knew it will be a big gamble when they went for it, Scorsese himself said that it didn't quite work and also takes some glimmer from performances when you add the cgi face). Also having those actors have a lot to do with getting the money, like the marquee/draw being DeNiro, Pesci and Pacino in Scorsese movie. Propably his last mafia movie. I just think Al Pacino finally in Marty picture and he was easily the best part of it, clearly had come prepared for the role. I wouldn't say DeNiro was baad and had some good scenes, but he was a bit too timid for being the lead. Like come up with something that keeps you engaged to the guy. Stephen Graham was excellent, best side-role in it if you don't count Pesci. Like Pesci exactly was cool, calm and collected and did have those little things that made watching him very interesting.
calm down lol
@@stellviahohenheim I'm calm 😂 Does letters scare you or what..
Scorsese never said it didn't quite work.
@@deathbyslipknot ofc he didn't at the time when the movie wasn't yet out for marketing purposes.. when is the most interviews. Yet he still even then did allude to some problems and that the eyes doesn't work quite the same. Then later on he absolutely said that it wasn't something that really fully worked, went into how the arched backs was a huge problem and they had to get a guy to the set just to remind to keep back as straight as can and again was talking how putting the cgi mask takes something he cannot quite put a finger on about the performance. Ofc he didn't out right trash it because that's not how you talk about a project people have invested for you to do, but he clearly didn't think it worked as he hoped it would.
@@aleksisuuronen5969 I've extensively heard him talk about The Irishman. I've seen probably every interview of Scorsese on the internet. He never said it didn't fully work. However during the promotion of the movie he did refer to it as a "necessary evil" if he wanted to have Pesci, Pacino, and De Niro in most of the movie.
adam has never looked more 40
fuck these guys are so funny
In the 80's your parents would tell you to be careful of men who look like this. Not to get into their car
de-downsyndromeing 💀
They can apply the deepfake tech that they used for Indy 5. Would make it look right.
Come on Arsenal
Nick Talking about Movies > Joe List & Raanan Hershbergh
always knew adam was a gooner and nick was norwegian
No it isn't Adam, no it isn't.
Not sure why, but I really want Nick to go on Rogan.
Nick is being hit way too hard by this new war. Why doesn’t he talk about movies all the time instead of insisting that the war is what people want to hear about?
bro with silly hat on minds deaging ain't right 😊
Every day I give thanks that my life isn’t meaningless enough to watch The Irishman more than once.
I've seen it 16 times over 4 years. My life is very fulfilled and meaningful. Guess we just have different attention spans....
Up Syndroming.
The irishman is one of the only movies i remember turning off in disgust. Awful awful movie
It's peak scorcese self indulgence. It's 4 friggin hours long when it could be 2.5
Jesus, really… just because of the bad de-aging? Are you 13? Because if that’s what qualifies as an awful movie I can’t imagine you have seen very many in your life
It's so terrible.
I thought the movie sucked....
Scorcese in his Barely Watchable phase.
Bad take
Gaysexrishmen
Arsenal = definitely the Adam of the EPL clubs
Arsenal jersey awful
I haven't even seen the Irishman once and I know it sucks.
It's flawed but decent. 25min over time, in my view. Scorsese chose to drag the film out with pointless prattle.
Me when I let youtube men tell me what my opinion is
The Waffle House hat hard
This movie is actually Terrible
god this is boring
FreePalestine.
Yeah we get it, Nick hates Israel
based
I wonder if they actually make any money off if this show
thumbs down just for the arsenal shirt,tottenham till i die
said it before and I'll say it again... the Irishman is one of the worst fuckin movies ever made
Sweet summer child lol.