Metal Detecting - The Minelab GPZ 7000 and GPX 5000 - A Target Test Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Since the introduction of the GPZ 7000 there has been a lot of conjecture about it's ability compared to the GPX 5000, especially when the 5000 is coupled with some of the latest Coils to hit the market.
This Test Comparison has not been made to determine which machine is better than the other, but rather to present an objective appraisal on how each machine performs on different sized targets at different depths. IMPORTANTLY, the targets have been left UNDISTURBED and in their natural state, thus allowing a TRUE response from each machine.
It is IMPORTANT to remember that all results on the GPX 5000 mentioned here are SPECIFIC TO THE NUGGET FINDER 17 x 13 EVOLUTION Coil.
The CONCLUSIONS based on the SCORING are just that... purely analytical, based on the test scores.
The SCORING comprises of 2 main areas: LOUDNESS or VOLUME and EASE OF TARGET DETERMINATION. LOUDNESS or VOLUME pertains to how loud the initial volume of the Target is ( thus making it easy to hear ). EASE OF TARGET DETERMINATION is determined by how REPETITIOUS, CONSISTENT and WELL DEFINED the Target Signal is; ( thus making it easier to assess the absolute presence of a TRUE TARGET as apposed to GROUND NOISE ).
The GENERAL OBSERVATIONS are my observations and are not hard and fast rules.
At the end of the day, I have presented you with TEST SCORES, CONCLUSIONS and OBSERVATIONS in the hope that they assist you to DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
For the record, I love both my 5000 and my GPZ, and would not trade one for the other, because each machine has strengths that the other doesn't. Together they form an awesome entourage that increase my ability to find gold.
The real test is whether either machine can detect Gold in a HEAVILY worked area, and as this video shows, both pass with flying colours.
Of course it should be said that each Detector's performance will always be determined by the SETTINGS being used, and of course these vary from operator to operator. I'm a firm believer in "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT", so if your settings work for you, then stick to them. If your settings aren't working for you and you want to find out how you can get the most out your Metal Detector, I offer Private TUITION. See contact details below.
Enjoy, Like, Comment, Share and Subscribe. Regards Aussie.
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0:00 Introduction
0:12 THE MINELAB GPZ 7000 AND GPX 5000
1:33 THE TARGETS WERE LEFT IN THE GROUND AND A TEST WAS CARRIED OUT ON EACH WITH BOTH MACHINES
2:28 TARGET 2 0.18 grams at 4 inches
4:08 TARGET 4 0.13 grams at 5 inches
4:53 0.05 grams at 3 inches
5:43 TARGET 1
9:15 THE NEXT DAY
12:38 A FEW CONCLUSIONS BASED ON THE SCORING
12:47 AT 9 INCHES BOTH MACHINES PERFORMED EQUALLY ON A 0.7 GRAM NUGGET
13:10 OVERALL THE 7000 OUT PERFORMED THE 5000 ON TARGET DEFINITION AND DETERMINATION
13:21 WITH THE RIGHT TECHNIQUE AND SETTINGS, BOTH MACHINES WILL CONTINUE TO FIND GOLD IN HEAVILY WORKED AREAS
Thanks for this great test and for the videos you make. I can't get over the blue sky and red soil. Beautiful.
You're welcome mate. Yes..Australia is home of some of the most unique and beautiful scenery on the planet. Regards Aussie
HI Aussie Bloke Prospector, greetings from highlands of PNG, and I must tell you, this has got to be one of the best videos I have seen. Good comparison on the 2 machines. I got to go for the GPZ 7000. Good video, and happy prospecting.
Really glad you liked it and thanks for the awesome feedback... I'll let you on in a little secret.... as much as I love my 5000, I prefer the 7000 too. Regards Aussie
Good video, great comparison test of the machines thanks for putting in the time to do it, good luck for 2018, Cheers, Peter T
Cheers mate, glad you you enjoyed it. Regards Aussie
Top test,good to see we,re all in with a chance......
Thanks mate...The 5 with the right coil and right search technique will keep on finding gold. Regards Aussie
Very good comparison vid there John. I've had very similar results and found that running a smaller12" EVO the smaller gold showed up on the 5000 pretty well equal to the "Z". I agree with your conclusion that in the right hands, with the right settings and experience, both machines are at the pinnacle of detector capabilities. Good luck on your next trip mate.
Thanks Wal. Both are at the top of their game, and as you know, put in the right hands are dynamite. Look forward to 2018 in WA. Kind regards, John
ABP, this is one of the best comparisons I've seen . I appreciate you taking the time for all of us viewers . Thank you greatly .
Cheers for the thumbs up mate... glad you found it worthwhile. Regards Aussie
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Thank you John for sharing your videos totally cool I go out usually with two to three metal detectors cheers .
You're welcome mate. Yep 2 or 3 is better than 1. All the best. Regards
THANKS MATE ANOTHER GOOD VIDEO ,GOOD TO WATCH THE TWO UNITS WORKING THE SAME HITS. CHEERS CHRIS
Cheers Chris. Regards Aussie
That was exactly the video I was after. Thanks mate.
Glad it helped. Regards Aussie
Love your videos. Thank you so much.
Thanks mate, your'e welcome. Regards Aussie
Really well done thanks for that mate
Great video mate
Cheers mate
Nice test video and good gold!
Cheers mate, regards Aussie
Thanks for sharing cobber. I’ve subscribed to your channel. Cheers
Welcome mate. Regards Aussie
Nice video just wondering what number sensitivity did u have the 7000 on?
Thanks. The settings I use are the result of 100s of hours of testing on targets
left in the ground, and therefore not general knowledge. In
case you are interested, I do offer tuition on the ZED ( I teach every
thing I know and have discovered about unlocking the potential of the
7000)... for more details you can go here www.eurekaprospecting.com.au/56/metal-detecting-tuition
Brilliant comparison mate.
Cheers mate.... thanks for the thumbs up... appreciated. Regards Aussie
It still amazes me how much difference even a couple of inches can make on certain targets. A bit of an eye opener when demonstrating it to new users. They quickly learn to keep the coil on the ground as much as possible. Just curious did you have a booster on the 5000? Signal seems to be distorting a little whereas the 7000 sounded quieter but cleaner
Merry Christmas my friend...
Great test... So now lets say I got a wheelbarrow full of money. And I'm ready to go get my gold finding machine... Witch one would I be better off investing in, the 5000 or the 7000???
One more question... I've heard that the smaller the coil the deeper it will penetrate into the ground. In your opinion is that a fact??? Thank you for taking the time to Vlog the test... Be blessed... BBE..
Seasons greetings to you too and thanks. I'd personally go for the 7000. The smaller the coil, the shallower it will penetrate. All the best mate. Regards Aussie
Great Vid mate, I own a GPZ7000 & an Sdc. I was really impressed with the results you were getting out of the Z on small targets at impressive depths. Do you offer Tutorials sessions in Victoria?
It's a very powerful machine if correct technique is applied. Yes, if I am passing through Vic, I can do Tuition. Regards Aussie
How mutch costs the minelab 5000?
Thanks for the video
Settings you were using on the Z?
Thank you for sharing your results! Video well done! You concluded the 5000 equipped with the Nugget Finder Evolution 17X13 coil outperformed the 7000 on the deepest and largest target. The 7000 has 3 settings; 1) shallow fine nuggets, 2) intermediate depth medium nuggets, and 3) deep large nuggets. Which setting did you use on the 7000 for the deep and other targets? Apology if this question was already asked. Thanks!
The result was based on the scoring system I used. Specifically to be objective. Remember, I originally found all targets with the 7000 and to be fair, had I not scraped off an inch or so before confirming the largest and deepest target was in fact a "target", I actually have my doubts that the 5000 would have picked it up. Regards Aussie
Understood! Thank you for the reply! I'm in British Columbia and have been researching and studying gold deposits in WA during my spare time for 3 years with hopes of visiting the State in a year or so. Was going to buy the GPZ 7000, but decided to purchase the CTX 3030 in 2016 as my first detector for learning and relic hunting. Will probably choose the 7000 to bring along to my WA visit. Will bring the 3030 also for trashy areas, but the wideband frequency range isn't suitable for gold smaller than 2 grams at intermediate depths. I'm involved with wet wash placer gold mining and it's unfortunate my mining season coincides with the best time to prospect WA. My time off here is November to March, so I have to pick the best time, if any lol, from that period. Cheers!
Your'e welcome mate.
RioOro555 Hey Rio, from my experience working at a gold mine near here you could expect a minimum temp of 35 to 50C during that time. I had a two week stint that didn’t get below 45 with a top of 52. Good luck.
Excellent video mate. If you had to have a guess how do you think a 4500 would have scored in this?
Thanks mate. Great question. I'd have to say with out the Fine Gold setting the 4500 probably would not perform as well. Regards Aussie
Were you in tracking on the 5k, signal seemed to drop off progressively as you scan back and forward over the targets.
Always in fixed mate. Regards Aussie
Yeah mate good video. Good info
👍🍻
Glad you enjoyed it
Great vid.. both machines & coils are the best on the market.. you just have to know how to use them..
Totally agree. Cheers. Regards Aussie
Good honest independent test
Cheers Mate. Regards Aussie
What is the name of the file used and what do you recommend where the two devices are 4500
Not trying to be rude, but your question makes no sense at all
Gret vid, don't ya love diggin for 20 mins on those 0.05's :)
Cheers mate and Lol....yep... too many times. Regards Aussie
Loved this video. Any chance of a 5000 vs 6000 battle?
Thanks mate. Early days...maybe in time. Regards Aussie
Great video👍 What were the settings you used on the 7 and did you use the same settings for every target.
Cheers Paul
Cheers. Yes I used the same settings for every target. I don't give out settings here on TH-cam, but I do offer extensive Tuition on both machines in the course of which, I do explain my settings. You can read more about my Tuition here: www.eurekaprospecting.com.au/56/metal-detecting-tuition
Regards Aussie
Great test this means now that I can keep my 5000 cause I use the evo coil in spoked config and I love it, WA gold fields again ?
Keep up the great Videos
Thanks mate and yes WA. Glad to help out. Regards Aussie
Great video. There needs to be a lot of gold to pay for what you have there. Best part of $20,000,00 I would guess. I hope you find a fortune. Be safe out there. How good is that coil!!!! Matched up to a great machine!!!
Thanks mate. Yep, the EVO is dynamite on the 5. Regards Aussie
On that score I'll go with my $1300 2nd hand Whites TDI pro oz and even pick up some mid sized nuggets the others can miss. That's the sort of size I really go for not that chicken shit and the elusive big ones. I've found two 19 ouncers on a Whites goldmaster two that I unwrapped from around a tree somewhere.
could I ask what your settings were on the 5000 for this test were please...thanks
The settings are NOT the focus here.. The EVO coil is
ok thanks
Interesting testing, but hardly comparable. It would have been far more interesting if you had used the N/F on both machines. Would have made it a little easier for me to choose between the two machines. I have chosen the GPX 5000 as it is a little lighter than the GPZ 7000, (means a lot when you're swinging it all day) and hopefully a bit easier to learn to use. From some of the lads out WA, the GPZ thrashes the 5000 most days but there are those that swear by their 5000's. Also it's probably a better bet price wise for a beginner. Anyway, it's already started paying itself back, found a tent peg, a dinner knife, half a dozen bottle tops and $1.20. I'll get there, just $4998.80 to go, or thereabouts.
Cheers for the vid, it told me I now need a N/F 17" x 13" coil..........damn :)
I agree with you that it would've been good to compare the same coil on both machines, but I hate to break it to you mate... the Zed cannot take the NF coil. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector Ahhhh, didn't know that. Only just got the 5000 couple weeks ago so it's all new to me.
I am learning tho )
@@2Qwk2C You have me wondering, how much more did you find?
@@ClearAdventure Hi there. I found a few hundred bucks, rings, ear rings, other bits of jewelry, nothing great so far. Haven't been out for gold but should be able to in a couple of weeks. I was wrong, should have bought straight into the GPZ 7000. It would have been just as easy to learn as I knew nothing anyway and it has way way better technology. Always buy the tech!!!!! It'll be my next detector (Always buy new!) unless something better comes out, which MineLab will ultimately produce. Cheers CA :)
@@2Qwk2C Hello! That's great that you found more! Sorry you got the one you did not want in the end, but hopefully as it is still pretty new you may be able to sell it? Anyway, I appreciate your response. Happy hunting! - Kevin Venture 😁👍
Top vid, mate good to the comparison of the two. cheers. chris
Glad you enjoyed it. Regards Aussie
Hi there, Out back gold fever did the same thing with the opposite results. So now im confused. They did an area with 7000 and got deep chunky + grammars, But the next day over the exact same spot they got shallow sub-grammars with the 5000. What the 7000 missed. Love your vids and have learnt heaps cheers.
At the end of the day I just put the info out there, but it's for viewers to decide. The key is to become proficient with either machine, as they both perform well. My personal preference is the 7000. Regards Aussie.
Powerful
Nice gold. Good job
Cheers
I like the way you did the test on real targets still in situ, but there is a couple issues I see. The whole point to a 5000 is its optionability. I always see these comparisons done the same. Bigger coils, basic settings which looses the real power of a 5000. That would be like putting the 19 inch coil on the 7000 and comparing that. For a start who would use a 17x 12 to find all targets on a flogged patch. I would have gone for a 9 inch round coiltek elite or the 14x9 elite to clean up the top foot. I might have missed it but also didn't see what settings you used. Which is another great thing about the 5000. I would like to see a 5000 set with the best coil and settings for the situation. Was still a good test though, and I actually think the 5000 did just as good considering it wasn't set right for the right circumstances.
The "optionalbility" of the 5000 was never a consideration in making this video (believe me if it had been, the whole setup would have been different). This video was made primarily because at the time the new Nugget Finder Evolution coils had hit the market and there was a lot of conjecture about how a 5000 with a 17x13 Evolution coil was just as good, if not better than a 7000... I had quite a few people ask me to do a vid on it...so having said that, I probably should have put that in the Title...something like..."the 5000 with a 17x13 evolution compared to a GPZ". The argument at the time was that a 5000 with the 17x13 could out perform the 7000. That's why it was used. ALSO, as I said in the video, it was NOT used to initially find the targets... the GPZ was...so this was purely a Target Test comparison of ALREADY located targets. Having said that, if anything, this video proves just how powerful the 5000 is with such a Big coil on such incredibly small targets... which is exactly why it was done on flogged ground...to highlight just how good it is, because by default the only gold that was going to be found there was not going to be easy to find or hear.... and this brings me to my next point... You assume I used basic settings on the 5000 even though you say that you didn't see the settings I used... so I have to ask...how exactly did you come to the conclusion that the settings were basic? I can assure you, the settings I used were not conventional, and venture to say, if not employed, the 5000 may not have performed as well as it did. Finally, about your remark "setting your detector right, for the right circumstances" ... Firstly, as I said , this video was specifically about the 17x13; secondly, while on the subject, (and here's where I part ways with the status quo), perhaps one of the biggest misnomers out there....consider this...If as an operator you are always changing and adjusting the set up of your detector according to any one of the miriad of conditions out there... then the truth is... you probably don't TRULY know and understand your detector... and if you continue to change it's set up everytime... you probably never will. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector yeah fair enough. The title idea might have been good..i agree the 5000 was pretty good with that coil. Also I rarely change my settings. I have some that I discovered that I use 95% of the time. Thanks for clarification
where can I order GPX5000 and how much it is?
www.minelab.com/
Are you running silent threshold mate? Or am I deaf?? Bogene's settings perhaps?
Not sure who Bogene is mate, but if he's the bloke who runs it on 1 or zero threshold, then I can tell you no, I don't do that. Regards Aussie
Can i Buy it SecondHand From someone ?
What kind of rocks at there? Are they metamorfic?
The majority are igneous and sedimentary. Regards Aussie
Unfortunately at $5300 for the GPX 5000 and $9500 for the GPZ 7000 is way above my budget but good vid fore those that have the cash
Where there is a will there is a way. Regards Aussie
SO if you only had the money to by one machine out of the two, which one and why
The 7000. It's dynamite in the right hands. Regards Aussie
Wich model better ?
Pls reply 🙏
a 5000 in the hands of a proficient operator is by far better than a 7000 in the hands of poor operator...and VICE VERSA.. so the answer is not so much the machine, but more the operator. Regards Aussie
1 question, if in the ground there is a piece of metal junk, how it sounds? The sound is different than gold?
In short, as a general rule... Gold usually tends to sound smooth and full bodied, whereas junk normally tends to sound sharp and shitty. Regards Aussie
Hello my friend. Please help me. My total savings will be wasted over 10 years if I do not choose correctly. Buy GPZ 7000 or GPX 5000 ??
GPZ 7000
Those chain marks...
Why coils are not same of both machine's?
Because of incompatibility
Hey Aussie bloke prospector, I’m guessing John??? My grandma passed away in the late 90’s and my mum passed away 30/12/18. When we were cleaning out Nan’s up stairs I found a jar of opals bits and pieces probably $2000 today they are in the bottom of my fish tanks now.
Were did she get them from in Victoria??? That’s were they came from Vic so was told!
I’m going to hit up my uncle for a good metal Detector for gold in Victoria. He mad a Joke out of out living my mother so he owes me a metal detector.
But can you help me out with were my Nan got the opals in Victoria???
Thanks Craig...👍🇦🇺🤔
John I know I’ve asked two sort of questions. Mate I’m hitting up my uncle for metal Detector,
Totally separate question were did my Nanna get opals is in Victoria?
That's something I'd have to look into. Was not aware of any
significant Opal deposits in VIC, although I did see a bit from the
Beechworth area a few years back. Regards Aussie
Your video is very interesting👍👍, and I want to be friends with you, I'm from "Borneo Metal Detector" Indonesia 🇲🇨, Greetings ... 🙏👌👋
Glad you like it mate. I'm not on FB sorry. Regards Aussie
@@AussieBlokeProspector it's okay buddy, I'm glad to be friends with you, I hope you are always happy...
Dang, I want a gpx5000
Get one mate...just do it. Regards Aussie
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