I had a CD demo disk that came in with a popular non gaming magazine and beding absolutely blown away by the visuals and atmosphere, those big strog guys always jumpscared the sheet out of me
I mean the quality dropped in terms of tone, setting and gameplay, you might enjoy the soundtrack but it's nothing compared to Quake 1. Trent was right but, there is still fun to be had.
Sonic Mayhem did not disappear after Quake 3, he just started writing music under his real name - Sascha Dikiciyan. He also did music for Prototype, Mass Effect , Borderlands, StarCraft II and Warhammer 40k Space Marine
Quake 2 multiplayer was pretty much all I played back in the late 90s. Incredible times. I jumped into this remaster immediately. Its really bringing me back.
this was the first FPS game I played through the single player on a PC, been hooked since, quake 3 arena and unreal tournament became a huge part of my life when they came out
The thing I like about Nightdive is that they grab a classic, somehow make it more classic, and never rub anything in the players face... they do their job, and get out of the way... true humble heroes of gaming.
@@jawknee4088 D*ckheaded smartass morons on the internet never elaborate. They get out all that pent up frustration from always saying yes to their mothers, they release it by being difficult and being stupid online because they'll get a foot in their a$$ if they try to act smart at home. It's just some idiot being rebellious and what's sad is that they think just posting "wrong" is enough to make a smartass statement. Plus, with a username like mindyourbeezness, he is either too young to even know ANYTHING on this subject of classic FPS's from the 90s or he's old, and with a username like that, he must have the mentality of an idiot Sega/Nintendo fanboy.
As someone who struggled to get through the first level of Quake 2 due to it being very incompatible with my computer, this remaster turned this into one of my favorite games I've played in the last couple years. I think remasters like this are a fantastic step for introducing older games to younger audiences like me!
I’m loving the attention Quake has been getting as of late from Bethesda. I REALLY hope that 4 gets a remaster soon; that game really got the body horror of the strogg so well.
@@rapatacush3The 360 had problems running it ? Really ? Considering that it's on the Doom 3 engine and developers were able to get Doom 3 running on the original Xbox that seems a bit odd. Maybe it was just a crappy port ? The Switch can run Doom 2016 and Eternal so they could get Quake 4 running on it.
@@Gatorade69 perhaps it was the port. I remember a lot of people saying i took to long to load the levels. It might had ran on doom 3 engine but sure as hell i looked a lot better than doom 3.
Doom 3 never got a remaster, the BFG edition is more of an update than a remaster, so I doubt Quake 4 will. What I really want is to see Quake given the reboot treatment the same as Wolfenstein and Doom got, post-Eternal I think it's time.
I'm glad my old man taught me to appreciate this game, it felt absolutely cutting edge when it came out. We didn't get a lot of technology brand new growing up, hell we had dial up until 2009, but I remember him coming home and peeling the plastic off the box of Quake II the day it came out. We booted it up and took turns each death, and even the simplest things like the sound of the pump action shotgun takes me back. This game was and is special.
I remember asking my grandmother to buy me this game because my parents would not allow me to play it. Once I got it I would sneakily install it and uninstall it every time I played it to leave no evidence behind.
It's a fallacy by the way. If a gameplay feature exists, the game is likely balanced with it in mind. Which means not using it will negatively impact your overall experience.
@@SyberianLynxIt's not a fallacy at all in this context. The features he was referring to in the video have no lasting effect on the actual gameplay of this version of Quake 2. They are just modern FPS additions that people may enjoy to use. Turning off a damage area indicator and hit marker is not going to suddenly turn Q2 into an unfair and far more difficult challenge.
I loved this game as a middle schooler. The chaingun and the Sonic Mayhem soundtrack was amazing. I remember being so excited that you could play the games soundtrack if you put in your CD player.
If Nightdive gives Quake 3 the same treatment, I REALLY hope they include an option to use the soundtrack from the Sega Dreamcast version. It was epic.
That is an amazing soundtrack that deserves more love. I played the DC version for some time before getting the PC original & it was such a downgrade losing those great tunes.
I'd be really surprised to see a q3 remake. They did quake live in 2010ish and that eventually made it to steam. QL was q3 with some updates and a web frontend without all the great mods.
as a boomer, i never knew Q2 was considered under appreciated for its time. had the impression everybody loved it. never heard or seen anything bad about it
So... We're not going to talk about Quake 2's ATROCIOUS weapons balancing? Ok then. Quake 2 had, purely damage stats wise, utterly anemic weapons. I don't think I've seen any other weapon sets in any id game be this weak when it came to their balance. Quake 1 weapons balancing was already a little questionable but still kinda good. Quake 2 though brought the damage stats down to new lows, ensuring that even basic enemies would take a million shots to the face before they went down, making them feel incredibly spongy and making every fight drag out way longer than they should have. The only weapons that seemed to have survived the Great Quake 2 Weapons Nerf was the chaingun (and even then, it consumes ammo like mad) and the BFG (endgame weapon). Now, in fairness, some people may really love this weak weapon balancing. Alright, to each their own, but I also really don't think it's fair to say that people who didn't like Quake 2 were just complaining about nothing. No, they definitely had something to complain about.
@@arnox4554 The only weapons that sucks is the blaster for its slow projectile and the regular shotgun for its slow cycle time. Every other weapon is B tier or higher.
Sonic Mayhem is still out there making really cool stuff. He recently started up this project called Future Synth Engineers and it's honestly some of the best synth I've heard.
He has also composed a metric f-ton of games since Quake 3 Arena, but under his real name Sascha Dikiciyan. His credits include things like Deus Ex and a huge chunk of Mass Effect 3.
I spoke with him one, about changing drums inside track I could do this for free, but he like it in the way drums sounds, for me they sounds cheap and very outdated...
I think some of the "added" attacks were actually things that was cut from the game originally but they put them back in for the remaster. Maybe it was too innovative at the time, but now its all welcomed
I don't know Q1 had leap attack style enemies, however, they wanted you to read the threats before engaging which is good, however some enemies become a joke because they are too slow and wait too much before shooting at you.
I'll never forget those LAN parties in internet cafes with my mates. Quake 2 was my fav game back in the day. I love the soundtrack, the gameplay, the aesthetic. I still have original CD's with Q2, two expansions and the netpack at my parents house. Good times.
Yepp. LAN parties in internet cafes when most of friends from school didnt have PC at home were awesome. We also envied guys WITH PCs because they would train at home and beat our ass :D.
Even though it was 25 years ago, I can still smell the cooking oil and fries from my local net cafe, playing mods Chaos Quake 2, Action Quake 2, and Jailbreak and Deathmatch at lan parties.
I used to play Q2 CTF with a group of ladies back in he 90's. The name of their clan was LQMS. Vasquez, Coronita, Jezebel, Medusa and Kitten. Coronita drove me and 3 of my college buddies to the LanWar 2 tournament in her minivan. Good times! Would be crazy if I played Q2 with your Mom. :D I went by the alias B-Nut back then.
I remember first seeing Quake 2 over at my cousin's friend's house. It was incredibly impressive and exciting to see what FPS games were becoming. This was also around the time I first experienced what a subwoofer was and I was absolutely floored that this weird ass looking speaker with a hole in it made you actually FEEL the gun shots. It left such a big impression on me. Oh and you could also feel the beat to the awesome music Quake 2 had.
Quake 2 was the first multiplayer shooter I played back in high school. We'd go to the computer lab in the evening and just have LANs that would go on for hours, fragging each other and during my second year I had a lot of free time due to taking less classes, so I would often sit in the library playing Quake 2. I was obsessed with this game and to this day it's one of my favourite shooters from the 90s.
as someone who loved both games growing up, my general understanding on why people didnt jell with Q2 all that much was the shift in tone and atmosphere. Q1 felt like you were a lone soldier fighting lovecraftian horrors and elder gods while jumping between realities and finding yourself in dark places that make no sense to the human mind. Q2 threw all that out the window for a more grounded experience and while it turned out great and was an awesome game, alot of people missed that dark and moody lovecraft aspect that made the first one so memorable.
Yeah kinda. Also the Trent Reznor soundtrack. Also we had a *lot* of good games come out in 97, so a mediocre shooter that had nothing to do with it's original wasn't very exciting to me. I was busy playing Fallout and AoE I think.
So I only played through the Quake 1 remaster and quite a few of the extra popular campaigns, with only a few levels of vanilla Q2, but seeing all this footage reminds me a lot of Q1. The level art and designs look like the sci-fi levels, just with higher fidelity and saturation. I'll have to be on the lookout playing Q2 now, but it seems like maybe they just needed a few pacing and ambient changes that would've added some more survival horror elements after the landing mission, kind of like how Q3 did it (even if the game is way too slow at the start).
I love how badass it is that in the plot mankind is attacking the home planet of the aliens instead of there being some kind of melodramatic defense of Earth or whatever
I *just* finished replaying Quake 2 a couple weeks ago for the first time in decades. Might be worth re-replaying this version right away while the original is still fresh in my mind.
I jumped right into the Machine Game campaign and played it left to right. I had a really good time with it. Loved the ending! And you can see clearly that that took some inspiration from the Quake (1) modding community. I was a well-designed campaign, six maps, each about an hour long, great for an evening session. And I really loved these slaughter encounters.
I think having to play it in the capacity of a review may have soured him on it. I think Quake 2 on the whole is best played in chunks at least for me. Otherwise it can get a bit old.
Doom 3 always has been hated on for its moody lighting and slow pace. But when I was a kid. We turned the lights off, cranked our own D&B and kept sprint held down and the shotgun handy. The night dive remaster brought back those memories
You should try playing Doom3 in VR. Its absolutely fucking glorious and even better and scarier that the original pancake version. It was the first full length game I played in VR and I still think about it 5 years later
Doom 3's shotgun is actually pretty good. It taught me the whole close the distance fast and unload into opponent technique, which is pretty much how I use shotguns in most FPS games now. Still have a real soft spot for Doom 3.
Doom 3's shotgun is actually pretty good. It taught me the whole close the distance fast and unload into opponent technique, which is pretty much how I use shotguns in most FPS games now. Still have a real soft spot for Doom 3.
@@Lord_of_Dread Same, and it doesn't feel like a mod. Since you can interact with the touchscreens using your hands, it feels as if made for VR. Flashlight in one hand, gun in the other is a formula future VR horror shooters ought to copy.
What a great remaster! Graphical improvements without ruining the art style, improved AI, lots of QOL features and Quake II 64, which I've never played before. Day one for me.
I'm going around recommending my favorite map pack. if you want more, try out the 25th anniversary UNIT map pack! It's so good and even has a level select hub.
I think one of the biggest problems with Quake II is that many people get bored and stop playing when the reach Ammo Depot/The Warehouse. Those areas are the biggest friction points for me when I do a replay of the campaign, and it's a bit of a struggle to push on knowing that the game gets better later.
I agree people will play it for a few months..... just like they did the first one, then the player base will drop like wtf ?? They will all go back to fortnite and call of duty. 😂
@@NikkiMcMistie Don't get me wrong, I still like its campaign! It just drags a bit in the second quarter of the game and I like that section less than the others, and other people I know also don't like that section very much.
What, I was expecting you' praise the new Machine Games campaign :) For me it's the highlight of the remaster. Bigger, more thought out maps with whole secret sequences, more varied enemy encounters with number of enemies that were not possible in original. Lots to love there.
@@SynthLizard8I think he was referring to the original commenter and his bit odd syntax, but the internet isn't just open to your local state so you might find all kinds of different ways of speaking, and none are wrong, so chill jeff
Everything Nightdive touch turns gold, is just astonishing how well done those remasters are and what they bring to this industry : Bringing back old franchise like Turok, PowerSlave, Blood, Sytem Shock ect... and now releasing high-quality production like the awesome System Shock Remake ! They truly have whats lacking in this industry at the moment... PASSION and CREATIVITY !
@@ProctorTheKrow Yes! Alien Trilogy would be a good one! But considering the challenge around licensing, it must be very hard to make it happen... but hey, maybe now that Nightdive are own by Atari they can use their influence to acquire rights for it, and maybe for other franchise too (like NOLF for exemple) *finger crossed*
Okay folks hear me out... Nightdive working on and fixing BLOOD 2. Like improved graphics, fixed bugs and completed story, which may or may not open a way for a much needed sequel. That'd be great now wouldn't it. We need that
This reminds me how some people now discredit Nightdive and said they'll never play another game from them, or lost "all my respect", caused they fucked up on the Blade Runner remaster. I'm like bro, they have done SO many other great remasters for PC and consoles, and their remake of SS was great. And you are discrediting them cause of ONE bad remaster.
Gives me high hopes for the announced Sin and KingPin remasters. Played Quake II last year again after many years, with a homebrew port on the Playstation Vita. Still an excellent game. Back then got my first 3Dfx card halfway though the game. The difference was breathtaking.
Quake II have special place in my heart. When i was young my mother worked at school as janitor. When me and my older brother helped her with cleaning after school, sometimes she allowed as to invite some friends and go to computer room where some older kid manage to install quake II on all computers and we played it on LAN. Super cool memories, it was fun.
Special mention should be given to Brendan Mckinney (LoH Bros) who went from making a fan remake of the Quake 2 intro cinematic a year ago to being hired to work on it and the other cinematics in an official capacity for the remaster. He's moving up in the world, that's for sure.
HOLY SHIT FINALLY. I am embarrassingly excited for a PC replay of the old Quake II N64 campaign, which was genuinely brilliant and had a really different vibe from the base game thanks to Aubrey Hodges' excellent dark ambient score.
I always prefered the n64 version. Loved Aubrey Hodges ambient soundtrack, the linear level design meant less backtracking through empty areas and most importantly, the n64 version had way more colors instead of just orange and grey. Finally being able to play the n64 version at 60fps with keybaord and mouse controls is a straight up godsend
15:50 - This is because the N64 was notoriously reliant on its "Z-Buffer" tech to smooth out low resolution textures, which is why pretty much every N64 game had a kind of blurry, smeared look to it.
One of the best, if not the all-time best OST for a FPS, a juggernaut of a game, way too trashed-talked about. I love it with every fiber of my body, and I'll die defending the Quake II, IV and Doom III hills, all at the same time. Thank you, Gman
how ironic is that the same company absolutely fucked over the composer who made the OST for Doom Eternal, then lied to blame all the problems on him in order to hide the incompetence and fuck ups of the people who were responsible
I remember Rune also had enemies leaping off ledges to face you, sometimes to their death, the AI was quite impressive when you played around with placing objects, they recognised walkable surfaces even when it was a row of barrels I put and climbed up ledges too it was hilarious when you spawn them on top of a castle and after a brief fight jump to your doom seeing mid air that 2 or 3 of them decided to follow you, that's dedication
One of the greatest soundtracks for a videogame ever. I love it so much. It's the reason younger me, who had the pirated version even bothered to buy the retail copy, that amazing soundtrack by Sonic Mayhem.
Enemies jumping off of platforms, to get to the player’s level was in the original Quake. It was just *very* rare. The only spot I can think of off-hand is the hidden map in Episode 2 (the one with the Tim Willits secret room with the initials). You can get an Ogre and/or a Death Knight to hop down, in the first room after you go through the water pipe at the beginning. Wasn't much in the game, but the trigger was there in the editor. Oh, I think there were a couple of moments in Sandy Petersen’s stuff. The last two levels? I was one of the people who loved Quake 2, but hated that it ended up called Quake. Not because it meant the game was bad, but because they abandoned the lovecraftian / gothic horror and Reznor ambient aesthetic that I wanted in a new engine with more detail. Having this game be Quake 2 meant that the hopes for a more detailed Quake 1 universe, with more features, experiences and skills, were sort of dashed.
Quake II "Wasn't Quake" IMO: Aight'. Still goes hard. Not to mention, Quake II being 'so far off' from Quake, laid the groundwork for Q3A-and-eventually the (overt) iD-multiverse unveiled with Doom 2016/Eternal.
@@labrat810 yeah, I’m not going to deny it was a great game, but I’ve been waiting a long, long, long time for a thematic successor to the first one; perhaps Dagon, or Cthulhu based, or one of the others in the original or extended Ancient / Eldritch mythos, except leaning a little harder into that, once the tech was understood, and some of the gaps were figured out (like solving the godawful .MDL issues, and fixing the affine texture issues, and adding coloured lighting and vis for translucent fluids). Also, you can say Quake II led to those things, but then Quake’s tech led to Quake II, and thematically, Q3A had little to do with either. They were all fun. But if they had different names, there would have been room for further growth of all of the concepts. Like, would Return to Castle Wolfenstein have existed, or the Wolfenstein reboot, if Doom was called Wolfenstein 2 and Doom II was called Wolfenstein 3 (or 4D and 5D)? I doubt it, sincerely.
@@RetroGamesCouple ooh. That's great. I’m looking forward to pouring through the source code, to see what's there, then. I haven't played far enough, or the enemies haven't stayed in one piece long enough for me to see that in a noticeable way. I did notice the updated logic tick rate, immediately; before it was announced. The enemies really do feel more responsive than they do in the original, in the first couple of levels.
Man that compass / waypoint is already going to make this game WAY more approachable. I used to get so damn lost in the later levels. Also I can't wait to blast my kids in multiplayer!
That's surprising to me tbh. I don't remember ever finding Quake 2's levels particularly hard to understand of navigate. In that case you should absolutely stay away from other classic titles like Wolf 3D, Hexen, Heretic and System Shock (including the remake).
@@CEO_of_Unpopular_OpinionsBruh you just agreed with me. Or are you somehow arguing that Hexens' awful levels are somehow a good thing cos it's famous for them?
Man this takes me back to Highschool lol. That Quake 2 soundtrack frickin still slaps. It's weird people don't like this game cause I liked it much more than Quake. I thought it was so cool to see enemies duck rockets or still trying to kill you after you "kill" them, needing you to completely mulch them to stop em
I’ve always said, that even though Half-Life 1 was in development before Quake 2, Quake 2 feels like the missing links between Quake 1 and Half-Life 1, like, it’s what ID would have done if they were told about what Half-Life would be, and tried to do those same things, but still with their classic formula.
The problem with Q1 vs Q2 is just that - they are different games. I won't try to speak for any other person who criticized Q2, but I loved Eldritch horror atmosphere of Quake with enemies like knights, shamblers, fiends, spawns. Q2 just dismissed it all, it felt like a generic alien shooter. Then Q3 went multiplayer exclusive, and then Q4 is just Q2 but newer. And then there's Quake Wars. The entire series turned on its head and became this anti-strogg epic because of Q2, and Q1 became the odd one out. id basically forgot about that original vision and design for decades, up until Quake Champions, and it might not be a successful arena shooter, many dislike the hero/ability aspect, but its visual design, soundtrack, atmosphere and lore are precisely what I personally wanted all along. Q2 is not bad, it's one of the best FPS ever. it's just that because of Q2 I never got a sequel to Q1.
I played both recently again and nowadays it seems to be vice versa. Q1 is just an incredibly boring generic shooter while Q2 is still exciting and in parts even quite interesting game. I have to give credit to the old school reviewer in the pc magazine who was right back then when he said that Q1 was just a generic shooter with excellent graphics. He dared to give the game rating 5/7. Big balls.
I bought quake 2 rtx because it is playable somehow on steam deck once valve and AMD sort out software to implement ray tracing but anyway should I buy this game instead to play on the deck.
@@kkarxI agree, q1( the base game) just felt pretty meh to me. The whole game just lacks direction, enemies are forgettable and not fun to fight, half of the weapons become useless once you pick up the super variants and the color pallette is just brown and gray. What I will gives to this props to this game for its expansion packs, ambience and atmosphere. I owe a lot of respect to this game but there are several other retro shooters that did everything quake did better.
I love that they're bringing back all these old games. You tell that this is being handled by people that really care about the community and that it's not just a quick cash grab. I'm not sure about this game being hated though, I don't think it's as celebrated as Doom or Quake 1 or 3 but I don't think it went as far as being hated.
My childhood was full of sequels: Quake 2, Fallout 2, System Shock 2... I'm gonna play the hell out of this. Also holy shit they added muzzle flash haha
It really is a fantastic package. The original Quake 2 had some rough edges that the remaster has buffed out, and the N64 campaign is great, if a bit short. Plus of course the new MachineGames campaign they've added is excellent. This is really exemplary remastering work, going above and beyond what is required.
I remember buying quake 2 64 and not wanting to put it down. While it was not the same game per say, its presentation was remarkable. I made it over half way through the game in 45 minutes, but felt pretty satisfied.
Great Look at the game. For me it'll always sit on the same level of awesomeness as hl1 and unreal. Q1 is you cought in a feverish nightmare, quake 2 is you alone ending a heartless race to an amazing soundtrack
Having played Quake 1 and 2 back to back, I love both games. I like Quake 1 a little more because of its atmosphere and ambience, but there’s no denying Quake 2’s effective use of body horror and pumping music. Overall, it’s impressive how influential the Quake series was in FPS games. Without Quake, we probably wouldn’t have games like Star Wars: Jedi Knight or Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
@@TheSupersmash97 I guess the Saturn version of Q1 is more difficult task because it was made in a different engine (Powerslave) and all the visual quirks comes from that. They probably would need recreate from scratch a lot of visual effects to emulate the Saturn look, that include the custom enemy models, sprites, textures and such. Compared to recreate the N64 version, it was just make simpler geometry with color lighting and some enemies in different spots.
I remember feeling that way about the new Quake 1 episode as well: that they were really visually impressive but especially by the end it drug on to the point where I just ran past most of the enemies. I do agree a lot with the feeling that Quake 2 deserved better. I mean, yeah it was still a common household title but I feel like most of the gripes are just petty. Everyone heard Trent Reznor's, "This game has no atmosphere" and just started parroting that. I remember a lot more of what Quake 2 had going on than Quake 1. That being said I would still like them to revisit the Quake 1 setting in the future.
Quake2 mod scene was unreal. Digital paint was amazing in the early days, lmctf, catch the chicken, jailbreak, rocket arena, and Action Quake. So much free amazing content, easily surpassed Q1 outside of pure DM, original team fortress, and maybe single player campaign. I will say the rocket launcher was awful (same speed, but the rocket started a few feet back relative to the Q1 launcher) but they made up for it with the railgun.
Always welcome a new Gman video. Great as always; and good to see Nightdive doing more stellar work. I know this is likely an unpopular opinion for Quake enthusiasts but I honestly would love to see Enemy Territory: Quake Wars come back. Really loved played that multiplayer; especially disguising as the enemy or calling in the H.A.M.M.E.R strike.
A Quake 2 remaster this good can mean something good for games based on that engine too. Can you imagine Anachronox running all those updated features? I'd be in line to buy that.
You have to remember all these updates and features are being run on a new engine similar to gzdoom. All this stuff would make the original engine burst into flames.
I have vivid memories of my kid brother playing Quake 2 on his Voodoo Banshee machine. I only had Voodoo 1 at that time (because I had upgraded earlier from a Matrox 2D card), so I was quite jealous how well it ran for him. Hardware moved so fast then. But yeah, Quake 2 did a lot of good stuff. The multiplayer maps became bigger and more ambitious, and there were fun gamemode additions like the grappling hook for CTF. And of course, the intro is hard to forget. I feel like The Expanse season 6 almost did an homage to it, the attack on the ring station and how Amos descended in his rocket chair. Very cinematic.
I only played the n64 version when I was like 5-8 years old and I loved it, the fact I can play through the n64 campaign and all the ones I missed is going to be an incredible experience. Plus I already owned it on steam so this is just a massive free update to me A genuinely pleasant surprise for me, I’m so excited to spend the weekend sucked in to it,might try some multiplayer ctf online or get a couple friends round for couch coop split screen. I’m so hyped to get stuck in!
great times. when i got my first pc back in the day; my first ever pc game was half life 1, then add getting my ass handed to me online with quake1 , the sheer speed is crazy, quake 2`s glorious soundtrack i listen to even today and quake 3`s wonderful gameplay and aesthetics..and then Doom 3! phenomenal fun!
Been looking forward to this and hoped it would get remastered after beating and getting platinum for Quake 1, hope a Quake 4 remaster will happen soon too.
6:47 >brown castles, grey castles, then brown castles with lava. 2 of these 3 scenes are from the same level and the third is from the next level which is in the same episode of which all the levels have the same theme. There is not just grey and brown castles, there is also purple magic castles and techy factory environments. In Quake 2 there is just strogg bases. One after the other.
Honestly, they could just make Q5. Q4 had a pretty decent story that seemed to be going somewhere, and the game is pretty good, outside of its awsful turret and vehicle sections.
@@spitt0110 I want them to finally merge the two visions together and make a single narrative with both aesthetics in play like what the new map pack does. I feel like it'd work with how Quake 1's slipgate plotpoint is set up. I think it would be awesome to have something like that.
i always prefered the weapons of q2 over the ones of q1. in q2 they were all different and you could feel the "punch" they had. while in q1 they always felt same-ish
I had no idea Quake II was hated or even disliked. I remember when it came out on PC, literally everyone loved it here, it was amazing.
Its sometimes the hipster effect, or people went from loving it no matter what to hating it no matter what just to be contrarians years later
Literally everyone? Where's that exactly? Me and all my friends hated it cause it had nothing to do with Q1 and the feel was completely different.
I had a CD demo disk that came in with a popular non gaming magazine and beding absolutely blown away by the visuals and atmosphere, those big strog guys always jumpscared the sheet out of me
I mean the quality dropped in terms of tone, setting and gameplay, you might enjoy the soundtrack but it's nothing compared to Quake 1. Trent was right but, there is still fun to be had.
Same. It wasn't hated.
Sonic Mayhem did not disappear after Quake 3, he just started writing music under his real name - Sascha Dikiciyan. He also did music for Prototype, Mass Effect , Borderlands, StarCraft II and Warhammer 40k Space Marine
Shit he did music for StarCraft?
and Deus Ex
Loved Prototypes dark ost
Wow!! Thanks for the info!! Will look him up!
holy shit
Quake 2 multiplayer was pretty much all I played back in the late 90s. Incredible times. I jumped into this remaster immediately. Its really bringing me back.
Same! Hopefully there's a decent amount of players in, now that we are all LPBs. 😅
same, and the awesome mods, ActionQ2, Team Fortress 2
@@chainsov AQ2 still playing! since my 15 years old
The only multiplayer I have played more than Quake II was Quake III. And Red Alert 2.
this was the first FPS game I played through the single player on a PC, been hooked since, quake 3 arena and unreal tournament became a huge part of my life when they came out
Quake 2 is an amazing album that comes with a free game. And it's a really good game, too.
right. Sonic Mayhem is Legit.
Like Guilty Gear series.
The thing I like about Nightdive is that they grab a classic, somehow make it more classic, and never rub anything in the players face... they do their job, and get out of the way... true humble heroes of gaming.
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@@mindyourbeeznessyou gonna elaborate, or…?
@@jawknee4088 D*ckheaded smartass morons on the internet never elaborate. They get out all that pent up frustration from always saying yes to their mothers, they release it by being difficult and being stupid online because they'll get a foot in their a$$ if they try to act smart at home. It's just some idiot being rebellious and what's sad is that they think just posting "wrong" is enough to make a smartass statement.
Plus, with a username like mindyourbeezness, he is either too young to even know ANYTHING on this subject of classic FPS's from the 90s or he's old, and with a username like that, he must have the mentality of an idiot Sega/Nintendo fanboy.
@@jawknee4088He won’t because he’s a miserable troll who lives in mommy’s basement
Agree 💯
Nightdive awesome heroes
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Quake 2 new way of remake/remaster groove!
As someone who struggled to get through the first level of Quake 2 due to it being very incompatible with my computer, this remaster turned this into one of my favorite games I've played in the last couple years. I think remasters like this are a fantastic step for introducing older games to younger audiences like me!
I think the Quake 2 soundtrack makes every FPS better.
Descent into Cerberon is burned into my brain
@@ragnakak The best track in the game I think.
@@ragnakakGravity Well 🗿
HUGE facts, that and Heavy Gear CDs used just as much in cd players
while i agree, i just wish the menu music had Trent Reznor screaming at me
I’m loving the attention Quake has been getting as of late from Bethesda. I REALLY hope that 4 gets a remaster soon; that game really got the body horror of the strogg so well.
Its only quake i haven't played, i so hope they either add it to the xbox store, or remaster it for modern consoles
The 360 had problems running it, i highly doub that the switch could handle it.
@@rapatacush3The 360 had problems running it ? Really ? Considering that it's on the Doom 3 engine and developers were able to get Doom 3 running on the original Xbox that seems a bit odd. Maybe it was just a crappy port ?
The Switch can run Doom 2016 and Eternal so they could get Quake 4 running on it.
@@Gatorade69 perhaps it was the port. I remember a lot of people saying i took to long to load the levels. It might had ran on doom 3 engine but sure as hell i looked a lot better than doom 3.
Doom 3 never got a remaster, the BFG edition is more of an update than a remaster, so I doubt Quake 4 will. What I really want is to see Quake given the reboot treatment the same as Wolfenstein and Doom got, post-Eternal I think it's time.
I'm glad my old man taught me to appreciate this game, it felt absolutely cutting edge when it came out. We didn't get a lot of technology brand new growing up, hell we had dial up until 2009, but I remember him coming home and peeling the plastic off the box of Quake II the day it came out. We booted it up and took turns each death, and even the simplest things like the sound of the pump action shotgun takes me back. This game was and is special.
that into to the game was epic
I remember asking my grandmother to buy me this game because my parents would not allow me to play it. Once I got it I would sneakily install it and uninstall it every time I played it to leave no evidence behind.
"Remember, you control the buttons you press". The life lesson we never knew we needed for modern times.
It's a fallacy by the way.
If a gameplay feature exists, the game is likely balanced with it in mind.
Which means not using it will negatively impact your overall experience.
@@SyberianLynx sure it's not always true, but it absolutely sounds true in this case.
@@SyberianLynxIt's not a fallacy at all in this context. The features he was referring to in the video have no lasting effect on the actual gameplay of this version of Quake 2. They are just modern FPS additions that people may enjoy to use.
Turning off a damage area indicator and hit marker is not going to suddenly turn Q2 into an unfair and far more difficult challenge.
I loved this game as a middle schooler. The chaingun and the Sonic Mayhem soundtrack was amazing. I remember being so excited that you could play the games soundtrack if you put in your CD player.
I brought my Quake 2 CD to school one day and the art teacher let us listen to it lol.
Hey me, it's you!
I did not used to listen to the cd in my Walkman when in high school at all. Just gotta skip that track 1
It was a magic time in gaming when games played music from audio tracks.
Don't know why he said sonic mayhem was gone off the face of the earth, dude is literally on youtube, and his last upload was only 3 months ago.
If Nightdive gives Quake 3 the same treatment, I REALLY hope they include an option to use the soundtrack from the Sega Dreamcast version. It was epic.
lets hope they include q3 rocket arena if they do
I don't see them doing a Quake 3 remaster, to be honest. Q3 is a multiplayer only game and the single player is just deathmatch with bots.
That is an amazing soundtrack that deserves more love. I played the DC version for some time before getting the PC original & it was such a downgrade losing those great tunes.
I'd be really surprised to see a q3 remake. They did quake live in 2010ish and that eventually made it to steam. QL was q3 with some updates and a web frontend without all the great mods.
Why would they ever do that when we got Quake Live and Quake Champions?
as a boomer, i never knew Q2 was considered under appreciated for its time. had the impression everybody loved it. never heard or seen anything bad about it
So... We're not going to talk about Quake 2's ATROCIOUS weapons balancing? Ok then.
Quake 2 had, purely damage stats wise, utterly anemic weapons. I don't think I've seen any other weapon sets in any id game be this weak when it came to their balance. Quake 1 weapons balancing was already a little questionable but still kinda good. Quake 2 though brought the damage stats down to new lows, ensuring that even basic enemies would take a million shots to the face before they went down, making them feel incredibly spongy and making every fight drag out way longer than they should have. The only weapons that seemed to have survived the Great Quake 2 Weapons Nerf was the chaingun (and even then, it consumes ammo like mad) and the BFG (endgame weapon).
Now, in fairness, some people may really love this weak weapon balancing. Alright, to each their own, but I also really don't think it's fair to say that people who didn't like Quake 2 were just complaining about nothing. No, they definitely had something to complain about.
That's because it wasent. Gman is spewing some revisionist history with this video.
@@arnox4554 The only weapons that sucks is the blaster for its slow projectile and the regular shotgun for its slow cycle time. Every other weapon is B tier or higher.
@@arnox4554 it did?!
@@arnox4554skill issue
Sonic Mayhem is still out there making really cool stuff.
He recently started up this project called Future Synth Engineers and it's honestly some of the best synth I've heard.
He has also composed a metric f-ton of games since Quake 3 Arena, but under his real name Sascha Dikiciyan. His credits include things like Deus Ex and a huge chunk of Mass Effect 3.
Is he on Bandcamp?
@@Sgt_Glory Yes - both Future Synth Engineers and Sonic Mayhem. His OSTs are not there though, as their publishing is handled by the game publishers.
I spoke with him one, about changing drums inside track I could do this for free, but he like it in the way drums sounds, for me they sounds cheap and very outdated...
@@PenguinDT I didn't realize he did ME3, which makes sense why I liked a bunch of it haha
I think some of the "added" attacks were actually things that was cut from the game originally but they put them back in for the remaster. Maybe it was too innovative at the time, but now its all welcomed
I don't know Q1 had leap attack style enemies, however, they wanted you to read the threats before engaging which is good, however some enemies become a joke because they are too slow and wait too much before shooting at you.
Somethings just should Stay in beta, there is just One new attack and its not really well implemented
@@fernandohood5657Itt's really not hard to deal with, just stay somewhat close and bait their running animation
@@Moonstalker
play with +fastmonster or whatever the command is. Trust me it will feel much beter.
I like imagining them like, "nah, this is too innovative for us." As if they knew people were gonna compare their game to others made 20+ years later
I'll never forget those LAN parties in internet cafes with my mates. Quake 2 was my fav game back in the day. I love the soundtrack, the gameplay, the aesthetic. I still have original CD's with Q2, two expansions and the netpack at my parents house. Good times.
Yepp. LAN parties in internet cafes when most of friends from school didnt have PC at home were awesome. We also envied guys WITH PCs because they would train at home and beat our ass :D.
Even though it was 25 years ago, I can still smell the cooking oil and fries from my local net cafe, playing mods Chaos Quake 2, Action Quake 2, and Jailbreak and Deathmatch at lan parties.
Let me tell you, getting a Voodoo 2 card to play Quake 2 and Turok remains one of the best memories I've ever had when it comes to games.
Well at least it wasn't the Voodoo 5. 👍
THIS, so much, I got 2 Voodoo 2's in SLI and played Quake 2 at 200FPS back int he day.
Dude, same. I begged my dad to get a Voodoo 2 so I could play those two specifically. PC games in the 90's were magical.
ha i got given a voodoo 1, going from quake 2 in software to hardware acceleration was mind blowing
Finished the campaign using the software rasterizer 😆 Got ATI Rage Pro next year, after that the Voodoo 2.
Quake 2 was the first video game I played. My mom played Q1 and Q2 competitively back in the 90's and got me into it as well.
Your mom sounds cool as hell
I used to play Q2 CTF with a group of ladies back in he 90's. The name of their clan was LQMS. Vasquez, Coronita, Jezebel, Medusa and Kitten. Coronita drove me and 3 of my college buddies to the LanWar 2 tournament in her minivan. Good times! Would be crazy if I played Q2 with your Mom. :D
I went by the alias B-Nut back then.
I remember first seeing Quake 2 over at my cousin's friend's house. It was incredibly impressive and exciting to see what FPS games were becoming. This was also around the time I first experienced what a subwoofer was and I was absolutely floored that this weird ass looking speaker with a hole in it made you actually FEEL the gun shots. It left such a big impression on me. Oh and you could also feel the beat to the awesome music Quake 2 had.
i got my first 3d card for q2 after playing it on software render for awhile lol
You couldn't run Q2 without a gpu......it was required@@moridin462
Hopefully we'll see a Nightdive remaster of Heretic / Hexen someday.
and Heretic 2. Also pretty unqiue little game by Raven
I want heretic and hexen remaster sooooooooo bad.
They should finish their SiN remaster first.
And descent.
Hexen II remaster would melt brains, puzzles in this game are on another level.
Quake 2 was the first multiplayer shooter I played back in high school. We'd go to the computer lab in the evening and just have LANs that would go on for hours, fragging each other and during my second year I had a lot of free time due to taking less classes, so I would often sit in the library playing Quake 2. I was obsessed with this game and to this day it's one of my favourite shooters from the 90s.
this is instant 10/10. quake 2 just age like fine wine.
as someone who loved both games growing up, my general understanding on why people didnt jell with Q2 all that much was the shift in tone and atmosphere. Q1 felt like you were a lone soldier fighting lovecraftian horrors and elder gods while jumping between realities and finding yourself in dark places that make no sense to the human mind. Q2 threw all that out the window for a more grounded experience and while it turned out great and was an awesome game, alot of people missed that dark and moody lovecraft aspect that made the first one so memorable.
I thought Quake 1 was so bland and boring, but loved everything about Quake 2
Yeah kinda. Also the Trent Reznor soundtrack. Also we had a *lot* of good games come out in 97, so a mediocre shooter that had nothing to do with it's original wasn't very exciting to me. I was busy playing Fallout and AoE I think.
Quake2 should have been a Doom game.
So I only played through the Quake 1 remaster and quite a few of the extra popular campaigns, with only a few levels of vanilla Q2, but seeing all this footage reminds me a lot of Q1. The level art and designs look like the sci-fi levels, just with higher fidelity and saturation. I'll have to be on the lookout playing Q2 now, but it seems like maybe they just needed a few pacing and ambient changes that would've added some more survival horror elements after the landing mission, kind of like how Q3 did it (even if the game is way too slow at the start).
Quake 2 was all about multiplayer when it came out, nobody cared about the single player.
I love how badass it is that in the plot mankind is attacking the home planet of the aliens instead of there being some kind of melodramatic defense of Earth or whatever
I *just* finished replaying Quake 2 a couple weeks ago for the first time in decades. Might be worth re-replaying this version right away while the original is still fresh in my mind.
Having finally played all of Quake 1 with the remaster a few years ago, I’m so pumped to play this one!
If you want even more content when you are done, try the 25th Anniversary UNIT map pack, it even has a level select hub!
Same. Keen as fuck
I played the quake remastered on my switch, and I loved it….now I’m looking forward to this but on my steam deck…
The quake one remaster recently got another wad added.
I jumped right into the Machine Game campaign and played it left to right. I had a really good time with it. Loved the ending! And you can see clearly that that took some inspiration from the Quake (1) modding community. I was a well-designed campaign, six maps, each about an hour long, great for an evening session.
And I really loved these slaughter encounters.
I think having to play it in the capacity of a review may have soured him on it. I think Quake 2 on the whole is best played in chunks at least for me. Otherwise it can get a bit old.
Kudos to whoever made the outro, beautiful art. Glad to see good old classics like Quake still appreciated
Doom 3 always has been hated on for its moody lighting and slow pace. But when I was a kid. We turned the lights off, cranked our own D&B and kept sprint held down and the shotgun handy. The night dive remaster brought back those memories
You should try playing Doom3 in VR. Its absolutely fucking glorious and even better and scarier that the original pancake version. It was the first full length game I played in VR and I still think about it 5 years later
Doom 3's shotgun is actually pretty good. It taught me the whole close the distance fast and unload into opponent technique, which is pretty much how I use shotguns in most FPS games now. Still have a real soft spot for Doom 3.
Doom 3's shotgun is actually pretty good. It taught me the whole close the distance fast and unload into opponent technique, which is pretty much how I use shotguns in most FPS games now. Still have a real soft spot for Doom 3.
@@Lord_of_Dread Same, and it doesn't feel like a mod. Since you can interact with the touchscreens using your hands, it feels as if made for VR. Flashlight in one hand, gun in the other is a formula future VR horror shooters ought to copy.
gate came much later . it received great scores on release.. i guess maybe only ppl who couldn't run it well were dissing it lol..
Whats great about this remaster is if you already bought the game on steam before the remaster, you get it for free as an update.
What a great remaster! Graphical improvements without ruining the art style, improved AI, lots of QOL features and Quake II 64, which I've never played before. Day one for me.
oh yes, same here bud
I'm going around recommending my favorite map pack. if you want more, try out the 25th anniversary UNIT map pack! It's so good and even has a level select hub.
It's here!
@@AlienShine yuppp, got the update on steam and peed my pants... I'm having a blast holy shit...
Same
I think one of the biggest problems with Quake II is that many people get bored and stop playing when the reach Ammo Depot/The Warehouse. Those areas are the biggest friction points for me when I do a replay of the campaign, and it's a bit of a struggle to push on knowing that the game gets better later.
Biggest problem of Quake 2 was Unreal that was released not long after it.
I agree people will play it for a few months..... just like they did the first one, then the player base will drop like wtf ?? They will all go back to fortnite and call of duty. 😂
It was hated for not having the same atmosphere, lovecraftian inspired plot and other things that on the larger scheme of things are not a big deal.
the biggest problem of quake 2 is that it might not be your type of game. did you ever think that?
@@NikkiMcMistie Don't get me wrong, I still like its campaign! It just drags a bit in the second quarter of the game and I like that section less than the others, and other people I know also don't like that section very much.
What, I was expecting you' praise the new Machine Games campaign :) For me it's the highlight of the remaster. Bigger, more thought out maps with whole secret sequences, more varied enemy encounters with number of enemies that were not possible in original. Lots to love there.
Agree
I can finally play Quake 2 without having an aneurysm
I'll have you know that John Carmack worked night & day on the aneurysm engine
Now if I can just read your comment without having one too that would be nice
@@JEFFALITY Don't be a fanboy.
@@SynthLizard8I think he was referring to the original commenter and his bit odd syntax, but the internet isn't just open to your local state so you might find all kinds of different ways of speaking, and none are wrong, so chill jeff
Everything Nightdive touch turns gold, is just astonishing how well done those remasters are and what they bring to this industry : Bringing back old franchise like Turok, PowerSlave, Blood, Sytem Shock ect... and now releasing high-quality production like the awesome System Shock Remake !
They truly have whats lacking in this industry at the moment... PASSION and CREATIVITY !
I really hope they do Alien Trilogy at some point. That would be my dream come true. I love the game already. But, a remaster would blow my mind
@@ProctorTheKrow Yes! Alien Trilogy would be a good one!
But considering the challenge around licensing, it must be very hard to make it happen... but hey, maybe now that Nightdive are own by Atari they can use their influence to acquire rights for it, and maybe for other franchise too (like NOLF for exemple) *finger crossed*
Okay folks hear me out... Nightdive working on and fixing BLOOD 2. Like improved graphics, fixed bugs and completed story, which may or may not open a way for a much needed sequel. That'd be great now wouldn't it.
We need that
That is NOT in any way lacking in the industry. To even suggest it is just toxic fake 'gamer' BS by someone who clearly doesn't play any games.
This reminds me how some people now discredit Nightdive and said they'll never play another game from them, or lost "all my respect", caused they fucked up on the Blade Runner remaster.
I'm like bro, they have done SO many other great remasters for PC and consoles, and their remake of SS was great. And you are discrediting them cause of ONE bad remaster.
Never knew Quake 2 had hate. Me and all my friends absolutely loved it when it first came out back in the days. Still a gold standard in FPS.
Gives me high hopes for the announced Sin and KingPin remasters.
Played Quake II last year again after many years, with a homebrew port on the Playstation Vita.
Still an excellent game. Back then got my first 3Dfx card halfway though the game. The difference was breathtaking.
dude, my body is ready
Kingpin reloaded has been in the works for a while. They announced it 3 years ago. But 3d realms are involved in it so I wouldn't hold my breath
Definitely one of the best games made by perfected human analogue and Jace Hall asphyxiator, John Carmack.
Quake II have special place in my heart. When i was young my mother worked at school as janitor. When me and my older brother helped her with cleaning after school, sometimes she allowed as to invite some friends and go to computer room where some older kid manage to install quake II on all computers and we played it on LAN. Super cool memories, it was fun.
Special mention should be given to Brendan Mckinney (LoH Bros) who went from making a fan remake of the Quake 2 intro cinematic a year ago to being hired to work on it and the other cinematics in an official capacity for the remaster. He's moving up in the world, that's for sure.
HOLY SHIT FINALLY. I am embarrassingly excited for a PC replay of the old Quake II N64 campaign, which was genuinely brilliant and had a really different vibe from the base game thanks to Aubrey Hodges' excellent dark ambient score.
I always prefered the n64 version. Loved Aubrey Hodges ambient soundtrack, the linear level design meant less backtracking through empty areas and most importantly, the n64 version had way more colors instead of just orange and grey. Finally being able to play the n64 version at 60fps with keybaord and mouse controls is a straight up godsend
Plus the exclusive levels
Q2 original soundtrack is awesome.
Don’t like ambient soundtracks
@@DeltaAssaultGaming Just as well you get both in this remaster then huh?
I wish they would have upgraded the N64 HUD for this. Looks like they took the PC version and slapped it on.
15:50 - This is because the N64 was notoriously reliant on its "Z-Buffer" tech to smooth out low resolution textures, which is why pretty much every N64 game had a kind of blurry, smeared look to it.
I know.
Quake 2 was the first game I ever saw with 3Dfx Glide and it blew my 12 year old mind! Definitely getting this remaster to play through one more time.
Hell ya, was about the same age. Cheers
One of the best, if not the all-time best OST for a FPS, a juggernaut of a game, way too trashed-talked about. I love it with every fiber of my body, and I'll die defending the Quake II, IV and Doom III hills, all at the same time. Thank you, Gman
Lol I'm with you on that hill cause these aforementioned ones are my fave installments!
We can all cross swords on that hill together. Then snuggle up and play some Halo 5!!! Who’s with me??
@@Mycarisloose 😂 We can play all those other games except for Halo 5
how ironic is that the same company absolutely fucked over the composer who made the OST for Doom Eternal, then lied to blame all the problems on him in order to hide the incompetence and fuck ups of the people who were responsible
I'm with you all! We can couch co op halo 5! Oh wait no we can't because satan. ironmouse? Christ?! Someone who hates fun, anyway.
You can avoid the Berserker’s new leap attack by jumping. As long as you are in the air, the aoe will not hit you.
"Now if they could only do the same thing for Quake 4, then we'll be all set"
Honestly, I would love to see Quake 4 get a remaster.
I find this recent trend of remastering old shooters but include ALL the content ever for it plus new levels to be amazing.
It also helps that a lot of expansion packs aren't available on steam, if the main game is at all, given legal fuckery.
I remember Rune also had enemies leaping off ledges to face you, sometimes to their death, the AI was quite impressive when you played around with placing objects, they recognised walkable surfaces even when it was a row of barrels I put and climbed up ledges too
it was hilarious when you spawn them on top of a castle and after a brief fight jump to your doom seeing mid air that 2 or 3 of them decided to follow you, that's dedication
One of the greatest soundtracks for a videogame ever. I love it so much. It's the reason younger me, who had the pirated version even bothered to buy the retail copy, that amazing soundtrack by Sonic Mayhem.
Enemies jumping off of platforms, to get to the player’s level was in the original Quake. It was just *very* rare.
The only spot I can think of off-hand is the hidden map in Episode 2 (the one with the Tim Willits secret room with the initials). You can get an Ogre and/or a Death Knight to hop down, in the first room after you go through the water pipe at the beginning.
Wasn't much in the game, but the trigger was there in the editor. Oh, I think there were a couple of moments in Sandy Petersen’s stuff. The last two levels?
I was one of the people who loved Quake 2, but hated that it ended up called Quake. Not because it meant the game was bad, but because they abandoned the lovecraftian / gothic horror and Reznor ambient aesthetic that I wanted in a new engine with more detail. Having this game be Quake 2 meant that the hopes for a more detailed Quake 1 universe, with more features, experiences and skills, were sort of dashed.
Quake II "Wasn't Quake" IMO: Aight'. Still goes hard.
Not to mention, Quake II being 'so far off' from Quake, laid the groundwork for Q3A-and-eventually the (overt) iD-multiverse unveiled with Doom 2016/Eternal.
@@labrat810 yeah, I’m not going to deny it was a great game, but I’ve been waiting a long, long, long time for a thematic successor to the first one; perhaps Dagon, or Cthulhu based, or one of the others in the original or extended Ancient / Eldritch mythos, except leaning a little harder into that, once the tech was understood, and some of the gaps were figured out (like solving the godawful .MDL issues, and fixing the affine texture issues, and adding coloured lighting and vis for translucent fluids).
Also, you can say Quake II led to those things, but then Quake’s tech led to Quake II, and thematically, Q3A had little to do with either. They were all fun. But if they had different names, there would have been room for further growth of all of the concepts. Like, would Return to Castle Wolfenstein have existed, or the Wolfenstein reboot, if Doom was called Wolfenstein 2 and Doom II was called Wolfenstein 3 (or 4D and 5D)? I doubt it, sincerely.
The difference is in Quake 1 (and 2) you had to put the Jump Trigger. In the remake it is done automatically by the AI,
@@RetroGamesCouple ooh. That's great.
I’m looking forward to pouring through the source code, to see what's there, then. I haven't played far enough, or the enemies haven't stayed in one piece long enough for me to see that in a noticeable way. I did notice the updated logic tick rate, immediately; before it was announced. The enemies really do feel more responsive than they do in the original, in the first couple of levels.
Rage might just be the greatest video game song of all time
Man that compass / waypoint is already going to make this game WAY more approachable. I used to get so damn lost in the later levels. Also I can't wait to blast my kids in multiplayer!
That's surprising to me tbh. I don't remember ever finding Quake 2's levels particularly hard to understand of navigate. In that case you should absolutely stay away from other classic titles like Wolf 3D, Hexen, Heretic and System Shock (including the remake).
(Reckless) Same here! It was more than welcome!!
@@CEO_of_Unpopular_OpinionsBruh you just agreed with me. Or are you somehow arguing that Hexens' awful levels are somehow a good thing cos it's famous for them?
@@ArawnOfAnnwnNobody thinks you're special
@@ZeallustImmortal ....🤔🤨
Man this takes me back to Highschool lol. That Quake 2 soundtrack frickin still slaps. It's weird people don't like this game cause I liked it much more than Quake. I thought it was so cool to see enemies duck rockets or still trying to kill you after you "kill" them, needing you to completely mulch them to stop em
I wasn't even aware people disliked Quake 2, at my school everyone as playing it.
I’ve always said, that even though Half-Life 1 was in development before Quake 2, Quake 2 feels like the missing links between Quake 1 and Half-Life 1, like, it’s what ID would have done if they were told about what Half-Life would be, and tried to do those same things, but still with their classic formula.
The problem with Q1 vs Q2 is just that - they are different games. I won't try to speak for any other person who criticized Q2, but I loved Eldritch horror atmosphere of Quake with enemies like knights, shamblers, fiends, spawns. Q2 just dismissed it all, it felt like a generic alien shooter. Then Q3 went multiplayer exclusive, and then Q4 is just Q2 but newer. And then there's Quake Wars. The entire series turned on its head and became this anti-strogg epic because of Q2, and Q1 became the odd one out. id basically forgot about that original vision and design for decades, up until Quake Champions, and it might not be a successful arena shooter, many dislike the hero/ability aspect, but its visual design, soundtrack, atmosphere and lore are precisely what I personally wanted all along. Q2 is not bad, it's one of the best FPS ever. it's just that because of Q2 I never got a sequel to Q1.
I played both recently again and nowadays it seems to be vice versa. Q1 is just an incredibly boring generic shooter while Q2 is still exciting and in parts even quite interesting game. I have to give credit to the old school reviewer in the pc magazine who was right back then when he said that Q1 was just a generic shooter with excellent graphics. He dared to give the game rating 5/7. Big balls.
I bought quake 2 rtx because it is playable somehow on steam deck once valve and AMD sort out software to implement ray tracing but anyway should I buy this game instead to play on the deck.
@@Spencerwalker21 interesting, thanks for letting us know.
@@kkarx There's nothing boring or generic in Quake!
This game was a literal quake of the industry and a first person shooter genre....
@@kkarxI agree, q1( the base game) just felt pretty meh to me.
The whole game just lacks direction, enemies are forgettable and not fun to fight, half of the weapons become useless once you pick up the super variants and the color pallette is just brown and gray.
What I will gives to this props to this game for its expansion packs, ambience and atmosphere. I owe a lot of respect to this game but there are several other retro shooters that did everything quake did better.
I love how you could hold your quad damage and invincibility until needed. Allowed me to make very short work of the bosses
Did you ever get to play the reckoning mission pack?
Quad damage AND dual fire damage?
Glorious!
You.... could also do that in the original game. Though now, you can also hold adrenaline, which you couldn't in the original/
Quake 2 on PS1 is pure nostalgia for me.
I love that they're bringing back all these old games. You tell that this is being handled by people that really care about the community and that it's not just a quick cash grab. I'm not sure about this game being hated though, I don't think it's as celebrated as Doom or Quake 1 or 3 but I don't think it went as far as being hated.
Quake 2 is the first fps I ever played. It holds a special place in my heart. I had no idea there was a remaster coming. So freaking excited!
For me it was Wolf 3d but ,i love Q2 as well . So glad too see it gets the love and recognition it finally deserves.
That artistical fart @16:33 really fits in nicely.
Q2 and 4 were awesome! Quake was great as well.
My childhood was full of sequels: Quake 2, Fallout 2, System Shock 2... I'm gonna play the hell out of this.
Also holy shit they added muzzle flash haha
Quake 2 was all about multiplayer nobody gave a damn about the single player campaign.
@@drunkhusband6257 that’s ok gamers are just wrong sometimes. Mgs2 for example
It really is a fantastic package. The original Quake 2 had some rough edges that the remaster has buffed out, and the N64 campaign is great, if a bit short. Plus of course the new MachineGames campaign they've added is excellent. This is really exemplary remastering work, going above and beyond what is required.
This.. this looks amazing. New lighting, shadows, yet the atmosphere is preserved!
The models look vastly less crusty too
Ah, the nostalgia! My very first Quake game. Thanks for having a look at it Gman
I remember buying quake 2 64 and not wanting to put it down. While it was not the same game per say, its presentation was remarkable. I made it over half way through the game in 45 minutes, but felt pretty satisfied.
No way. Where the hell did this come from?! Quake 2 is one of my favourite childhood games
Great Look at the game. For me it'll always sit on the same level of awesomeness as hl1 and unreal. Q1 is you cought in a feverish nightmare, quake 2 is you alone ending a heartless race to an amazing soundtrack
my buddy and i played this coop recently and man it was fun, the biggest enemy was him or i using explosives and blowing each other up though.
So damn excited for this quake 2 is the stuff dreams are made of
Holy shit! That's some freaky dreams you're having!
I also cannot wait to play this masterpiece
I've been hoping they would do this since the first Quake remaster. This looks great! 😁
Our patience has been rewarded.
Having played Quake 1 and 2 back to back, I love both games. I like Quake 1 a little more because of its atmosphere and ambience, but there’s no denying Quake 2’s effective use of body horror and pumping music.
Overall, it’s impressive how influential the Quake series was in FPS games. Without Quake, we probably wouldn’t have games like Star Wars: Jedi Knight or Return to Castle Wolfenstein.
Would’ve been cool to see the ps1 version of quake 2 added as well.
Give it time, maybe they still will after no doubt fan demand
@@guilhermehank4938they never added the Saturn version of quake 1…
@@TheSupersmash97 I guess the Saturn version of Q1 is more difficult task because it was made in a different engine (Powerslave) and all the visual quirks comes from that.
They probably would need recreate from scratch a lot of visual effects to emulate the Saturn look, that include the custom enemy models, sprites, textures and such.
Compared to recreate the N64 version, it was just make simpler geometry with color lighting and some enemies in different spots.
Here’s hoping Quake 3 Arena gets the next remaster treatment.
Probably will be announced in Quakecon 2024 in August
It’s worth mentioning too that the game has 8 player split-screen on Xbox Series X and PC.
I remember feeling that way about the new Quake 1 episode as well: that they were really visually impressive but especially by the end it drug on to the point where I just ran past most of the enemies. I do agree a lot with the feeling that Quake 2 deserved better. I mean, yeah it was still a common household title but I feel like most of the gripes are just petty. Everyone heard Trent Reznor's, "This game has no atmosphere" and just started parroting that. I remember a lot more of what Quake 2 had going on than Quake 1. That being said I would still like them to revisit the Quake 1 setting in the future.
Funny thing is, Trent saying that is never even confirmed. It's basically a rumor that got more popular no thanks to Civvie11.
One of those, "Marilyn Manson removed his ribs" things... What did we call them before memes?
It was hated for not having the same atmosphere, lovecraftian inspired plot and other things that on the larger scheme of things are not a big deal.
Quake 1 and 2 both get remastered what are they planning for a quake reboot
Quake2 mod scene was unreal. Digital paint was amazing in the early days, lmctf, catch the chicken, jailbreak, rocket arena, and Action Quake. So much free amazing content, easily surpassed Q1 outside of pure DM, original team fortress, and maybe single player campaign. I will say the rocket launcher was awful (same speed, but the rocket started a few feet back relative to the Q1 launcher) but they made up for it with the railgun.
Always welcome a new Gman video. Great as always; and good to see Nightdive doing more stellar work. I know this is likely an unpopular opinion for Quake enthusiasts but I honestly would love to see Enemy Territory: Quake Wars come back. Really loved played that multiplayer; especially disguising as the enemy or calling in the H.A.M.M.E.R strike.
A Quake 2 remaster this good can mean something good for games based on that engine too.
Can you imagine Anachronox running all those updated features? I'd be in line to buy that.
You have to remember all these updates and features are being run on a new engine similar to gzdoom. All this stuff would make the original engine burst into flames.
I have vivid memories of my kid brother playing Quake 2 on his Voodoo Banshee machine. I only had Voodoo 1 at that time (because I had upgraded earlier from a Matrox 2D card), so I was quite jealous how well it ran for him. Hardware moved so fast then.
But yeah, Quake 2 did a lot of good stuff. The multiplayer maps became bigger and more ambitious, and there were fun gamemode additions like the grappling hook for CTF. And of course, the intro is hard to forget. I feel like The Expanse season 6 almost did an homage to it, the attack on the ring station and how Amos descended in his rocket chair. Very cinematic.
I only played the n64 version when I was like 5-8 years old and I loved it, the fact I can play through the n64 campaign and all the ones I missed is going to be an incredible experience. Plus I already owned it on steam so this is just a massive free update to me
A genuinely pleasant surprise for me, I’m so excited to spend the weekend sucked in to it,might try some multiplayer ctf online or get a couple friends round for couch coop split screen.
I’m so hyped to get stuck in!
This weekend is definitely Quake II weekend for me, just downloaded it 😁
I played it for the first time with the remaster and it was freaking glorious. I can't even imagine what one would feel experiencing this in 1997.
great times. when i got my first pc back in the day; my first ever pc game was half life 1, then add getting my ass handed to me online with quake1 , the sheer speed is crazy, quake 2`s glorious soundtrack i listen to even today and quake 3`s wonderful gameplay and aesthetics..and then Doom 3! phenomenal fun!
it was life changing
Me: Therapist GmanLives doesn't exist, he can't randomly drop really good life advice.
Therapist GmanLives: 11:22
Been looking forward to this and hoped it would get remastered after beating and getting platinum for Quake 1, hope a Quake 4 remaster will happen soon too.
Knowing Nightdive it isn't a master of "if" for a remaster of quake 4, only "when".
Awesome video GMan! As you said, I hope there will be this much love shown to Quake 4 in the future 🔥
Quake 4 reminds me of Doom 3. Different but good in there own way. I hope they do a remaster for Quake 4 sometime.
@@garypeterson9745Quake III first
Playing Quake 2 online was such a blast ! I still play some Arena Shooters even newer Quake games just to emulate the feeling i had with Quake 2
It's a bummer we won't get a new Quake game, but this is the next best thing.
Don’t lose hope my friend, let’s see what bethesda is cooking
As one of the few who really enjoyed Quake IV, I'm still hoping.
@@DanoLefourbe stroggs are cool but I still want my quake 1 themed single player
@@mcelfy1006Quake V with Stroggs vs Lovecraft monsters. Imagine...
@@ptrs41653 ranger and mathew kain teaming up
The quake 1 and quake 2 campaigns kick so much ass. The boomer shooter level setup is something i always appretiate.
What’s funny, Quake 2 64 was my first Quake game and introduction to the series.
Such a underrated gem
Cool
@@rydog64 it’s very cool. You played the 64 growing up?
@@mrmhj9925 I had one as kid but it stopped working unfortunately
Based
6:47 >brown castles, grey castles, then brown castles with lava.
2 of these 3 scenes are from the same level and the third is from the next level which is in the same episode of which all the levels have the same theme.
There is not just grey and brown castles, there is also purple magic castles and techy factory environments. In Quake 2 there is just strogg bases. One after the other.
wrong yes its all military industrial style but the levels look really different between units
As much as I love Quake 2, and as excited as I am to play this, I really hope we get a quake reboot like Doom did.
right... but will the next Quake be more love craft like Q1 or more strogg like q2 and q4?
Honestly, they could just make Q5. Q4 had a pretty decent story that seemed to be going somewhere, and the game is pretty good, outside of its awsful turret and vehicle sections.
@@DanoLefourbe quake 4 is 18 years old....... Better off with a reboot/sort reboot
@@spitt0110 why not both lol
@@spitt0110 I want them to finally merge the two visions together and make a single narrative with both aesthetics in play like what the new map pack does. I feel like it'd work with how Quake 1's slipgate plotpoint is set up. I think it would be awesome to have something like that.
Quake 2 is my favorite retro shooter ever. No idea how people can say it was hated. Everyone around my friends loved it.
i always prefered the weapons of q2 over the ones of q1. in q2 they were all different and you could feel the "punch" they had. while in q1 they always felt same-ish
Q1 weapons are stock as fuck tbh. Meanwhile the Railgun was one of the best addition to fps games ever
Q1 weapons? Those shits were weapons?
indeed. not to mention in q1 you had two nailgun which basically did the same thing
@@MILDMONSTER1234
exactly :D
@@rapatacush3
Super underrated game
I cannot agree more😁👍
Holy hell this takes ma back. my goodness! THE SOUNDTRACK!!! 5:55 the chills, man! THE CHILLS!
Now we need a remake of Quake 3!😁
No, we really don't! 😌👎Plus we already got one.
@TAURON85 Who shat on your breakfast, honey bunny?
@@TAURON85loser
I had always heard about quake but back then I was pretty young and didn’t play fps games. But it looks like a fun time and worth checking out
Quake 2 has the best soundtrack ever!
I really liked the rtx shadows. This hard edge shadows are cool, but the rtx shadows really helped to improve the low poly environment.