I liked the sub bass sound from the X. But I like the grit of the 4K. I used to have a 2500 and I made a lot of nice beats on it. I have the 4K now & I love it
The X also has the MPC 3k filter model and very nice MPC 60, 3k, and SP12 DA converter models, that can give it a lo fi punchy sound like the 2500 and 4k
So would you say the MPC 4000 has the most punch of the 3? I was talking to legendary Bay Area producer EA-Ski, and he said the MPC 4000 is the most punchiest and biggest sounding of all the MPC’s after the MPC 3000 and MPC 60. He also said the MPC 2500 (as well the 1000 and 5000) had more of a focus on workflow, but sounded relatively sterile and thin compared to every MPC that came before em’. I just bought a fully loaded refurbished MPC 4000 the other day based on his advice, but I’m curious to hear your opinion. Would you agree that the 4000 sounds the most punchiest out of the other 3 you tested?
Freddy Fresh soundwise... 2kXL and classic are punchier than 4k. Maybe it has better workflow. Sound wise can’t beat the classic out of this samplers you just mention. After roger linn left... mpc started to loose punch with every new edition.
@@3rd_eyevision While the MPC60 will always be King, those who know will tell you that the little 500 is very similar to the 3000. The same sample rate, same bit depth, same sequencer, same sampling by ear and numbers but the 500 has compact flash and USB plus it has EQ and compression with filters. The 3000 has 16 pads to the 500's 12 and three circuit boards to the 2000 and XL's one. The 500 has a punchy sound that only those who have used other MPC models and actually bothered to learn the 500 will know about.
@Freddy Fresh 2000 is the best out of that list. It's the first one that was made after the departure of Roger Linn and the last one that was made before Numark bought Akai and made that bs looking 2000xl. Followed by that Akai Workstation that is called an MPC 4000. F*^$ any MPC that came after the 2000. There are only 4 true Akai MPCs. 60, 60 II, 3000, and 2000. The rest of them are Numark Workstations and InMusic Workstations. Which is why Midi production Center was changed to Music Production Center. Not sure why mfs even compare 2000xl on up against the og ish.
For me MPC X had more clear and in depth sound but MPC 4000 felt better,can't explein why it did better on my ear i can't spot the part I enjoyed more but i did enjoyed 4000 more. I would like to see the comparisson between x/4000 with Maschine Studio tho.
The 4000 had the extra "Hey" sample in it's beat where as the X didn't. Only the 2500 had that sample as well. It would be interesting to see if the X would have sounded better if it had all the sounds in it's demonstration
Im using Mpc Renaissance. Thinking about getting the 2500, would there be any differents or is it just all preference? I kno Araab and Alchemist still make bangers on it
I would recommend the 2500 if you prefer hardware and standalone. The Renaissance will need software to work and a computer. The workflow is definitely different and is really a preference.
I wish Akai would've upgraded or played around with the MPC 1000. I think the 1000 would've looked amazing if they were to have made it less thick (a little bigger in general; not MPC 2500 big, but somewhere in between that and the 1000), applied a new type of tilt screen that's modern with color, have the body material of the MPC Studio Black, thick light up pads from the MPC X, and as always, keeping it traditional with it continuing to be a stand alone.
I'm happy you did this as I was thinking of getting the X just for the easier sample editing but I also use the 4000 to control a shit ton of old analog synths and it NEVER lets me down with the ability to do complicated key groups, send CC data via q-link to filter cutoffs on synths etc.. not to mention the dope as hell timing... I even use it to do master mixes check this from my Rap Book (most doen on 2xl and 4000 and turntables (multi edits etc.) soundcloud.com/freddy-fresh/freddy-fresh-presents-the-rap-records-the-mastermix-1-japan-box-set
Have you tried holding down shift and pressing note repeat to lock in the note repeat function? There been many years since I sold my mpc4000, but I think in the global setting or some others setting will restart the sequence with the play/start button
On the mpc4k the note repeat function is locked by default as the button toggles the function on and off when pressed once and the function is confirmed as on by a small LED located just above the button that stays lit when the function is activated. I will have to look in the globas settings and see if there is anything there regarding the sequence start functions. Thanks for the info.
I'm sorry, I was referring to note repeat lock for the MPC2500 and MPC X. You said in your video, that you had to hold the note repeat button on the MPC2500 and MPC X to trigger the pads to repeat notes. But the MPC4000's button toggles the note repeat function on and off. That's why I suggested, holding shift + the note repeat button to lock the note repeat into the on position with the MPC2500 and MPC X. I owned the MPC2000, 4000 and 5000 in the past. I now own the REN, the Touch and MPC X, which is pack away in the box in my closet. Reason is Maschine Studio is my weapon of choice now, but I'm still a fan of the MPC and I'm a gear whore.
I can dig it... just couldn't get away from the hardware feel and setup however it is a personal preference. Thank you for the tip on the note repeat button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven't already done so and let's support one another.
Im thinking about buying a mpc 4000 . I have the mpx but need better feel. I had a mpc2500 for 5 years loved it. Should of never sold it. Just got bored and everybody keep pushing me towards vsts and computer interface. It killed my workflow and my creativity. You think a 4000 will be counterintuitive when I have a MPC X?
Absolutely not! I feel you Bro... I have had a lot of people trying to pressure me into the software side of things, but I know what you mean about the feel. The machines that were made to produce music without the help of a PC will always come out on top with the best feel in my opinion. I have both the 2500 and the 4000. I started to get rid of the 2500, but decided to keep it because I like to switch up from time to time. You are right on point!
i say since its 2018 to go with the MPCX WHY?? CAUSE THE MPC4000 IS OLD U BUY IT UR IT WILL BE SECOND HAND OR 3RD HAND AND HECK IF IT BREAKS DOWN ON YOU U CANT SENT IT TO AKAI TO GET IT FIXED they dont even make them no more its like buying a OPENLABS KEYBOARD there's no product support for it just like buying a ASR-10 I have that keyboard and the company DONT FIX THEM OR WORK ON THEM THATS WHY THE PRODUCER GAME IS SO TUFF U PAY OUT MONEY OVER AND OVER im just building my setup back i was using ASR-10 MPC3000 and roland vs 8track recorder today i got the MPCX and good cause with a good mic u can record 8tracks vocal bass guitar lead guitar all your musical parts and put it all on a MP3 OR WAVE FILE MPCX-- IS A STUDIO IN A BOX!!! ITS GONNA PUT A LOTTA STUDIOS OUTTA WORK
Actually, when I first bought the MPC4000 it was non-operational. I got it at a discounted price and fixed it myself. There are many youtube videos and tutorials on how to repair old equipment and this is how I have survived with vintage gear. I got the unit for under $400, then opened it up and replaced the RAM stick ($10 part) which fixed the problem and saved me quite a bit of money.
Stay tuned... more comparisons to come. I have yet to find a fellow producer that uses the MPC 5000 due to the bugs mentioned in a lot of the online forums. If I come across one though you can bet there will be a video comparison.👍
@@deepnoteTV Theres not so many bugs.Altho there was a problem with consistency with production quality.I like it but its a bit harsh and simplistic compared to the 4000.Still i prefer it to the new MPCs.More character...
5k 2.0 kills em all.. but ok i am bias ahaha x i like it a lot for live dj is very fast plus is internal instruments are very good. As for clock . 5k easy. Flawless
ive had the mpc 2500 before and it has got to be the worse sounding mpc to get that good sound you have to back to the biege mpc 2000xl before numark bought out akai the mpc 2000 , the 3000 and the mpc 60 2 and first mpc 60 is where its at the mpc 5000 in my opinion should have been labeled the mpc 3500 because its very similiar in the sound engine and the only mpc with an actual synth engine that comes close to a moog in my opinion
I agree with you about the older MPC's having that more grindy sound with the authentic akai swing. However I also would have to put the MPC 4000 in that category... she's a BEAST not to mention the ak.sys functionality.
That’s BS they all sound Good ..I can get an 2500 to sound how ever I want. crunchy , clean, smooth ..whatever.. it’s not the gear its how you use it ...and the swing is not different at all ...if so prove it with a video
amon tri Naw homie,I made hella slap on a 2000 and a 2500,and it’s a difference but not enough difference not to make some hard beats my guy,jus use whaeva one dat appreciates wit wha you do best💯💯💯
Everybody don’t feel bad my dumb ass sold my 4000 to my boy and got a mk2 and 5000...5000 is cool but jus way too buggy and freezes YOU HAVE to literally find ur sounds make ur sequences quick and pray u can save em fast enough lol few weeks later now I got fl studio do an mk3 and waitin on my mpc 2500
You had a bad unit.Neverf freeze on me and ive had two.The 5000 is a much more open field than the 2500 but unfortunately does not have JJOS.The X and Live/One are bland sounding.The 4000 is the bomb.Its got a bit of everything....
I liked the sub bass sound from the X. But I like the grit of the 4K. I used to have a 2500 and I made a lot of nice beats on it. I have the 4K now & I love it
I just did a comparison between Mpc Live n 2500 ..Sampled the same Breakbeak into Both machines ..The 2500 kicked its ass
Love my 2.5k
The X also has the MPC 3k filter model and very nice MPC 60, 3k, and SP12 DA converter models, that can give it a lo fi punchy sound like the 2500 and 4k
Thanks for sharing
So would you say the MPC 4000 has the most punch of the 3? I was talking to legendary Bay Area producer EA-Ski, and he said the MPC 4000 is the most punchiest and biggest sounding of all the MPC’s after the MPC 3000 and MPC 60. He also said the MPC 2500 (as well the 1000 and 5000) had more of a focus on workflow, but sounded relatively sterile and thin compared to every MPC that came before em’. I just bought a fully loaded refurbished MPC 4000 the other day based on his advice, but I’m curious to hear your opinion. Would you agree that the 4000 sounds the most punchiest out of the other 3 you tested?
I agree with EA-Ski... would most definitely say the 4k has the most punch of the three. Have fun with your new gear. You will not be disappointed!
Freddy Fresh soundwise... 2kXL and classic are punchier than 4k. Maybe it has better workflow. Sound wise can’t beat the classic out of this samplers you just mention.
After roger linn left... mpc started to loose punch with every new edition.
@@3rd_eyevision While the MPC60 will always be King, those who know will tell you that the little 500 is very similar to the 3000. The same sample rate, same bit depth, same sequencer, same sampling by ear and numbers but the 500 has compact flash and USB plus it has EQ and compression with filters. The 3000 has 16 pads to the 500's 12 and three circuit boards to the 2000 and XL's one. The 500 has a punchy sound that only those who have used other MPC models and actually bothered to learn the 500 will know about.
@Freddy Fresh 2000 is the best out of that list. It's the first one that was made after the departure of Roger Linn and the last one that was made before Numark bought Akai and made that bs looking 2000xl. Followed by that Akai Workstation that is called an MPC 4000. F*^$ any MPC that came after the 2000. There are only 4 true Akai MPCs. 60, 60 II, 3000, and 2000. The rest of them are Numark Workstations and InMusic Workstations. Which is why Midi production Center was changed to Music Production Center. Not sure why mfs even compare 2000xl on up against the og ish.
@@3rd_eyevision thanks homey I've been living and breathing on the 4000 .. (Freddy Fresh)
For me MPC X had more clear and in depth sound but MPC 4000 felt better,can't explein why it did better on my ear i can't spot the part I enjoyed more but i did enjoyed 4000 more.
I would like to see the comparisson between x/4000 with Maschine Studio tho.
no maschine studio sucks honestly
The 4000 had the extra "Hey" sample in it's beat where as the X didn't. Only the 2500 had that sample as well. It would be interesting to see if the X would have sounded better if it had all the sounds in it's demonstration
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio very good point
Maschine Studio has no built-in soundcard so a comparison doesn' t make any sense at all.
I have the 4000k fully expanded ...not sure what out you're using but the 4k is really big crisp and thick! ..the 5 is bright but not as beefy
Im using Mpc Renaissance. Thinking about getting the 2500, would there be any differents or is it just all preference? I kno Araab and Alchemist still make bangers on it
I would recommend the 2500 if you prefer hardware and standalone. The Renaissance will need software to work and a computer. The workflow is definitely different and is really a preference.
The 4000 moves some serious air!
Dope video, all of them sound great.
That 4000 sounds pretty damn dope
I wish Akai would've upgraded or played around with the MPC 1000. I think the 1000 would've looked amazing if they were to have made it less thick (a little bigger in general; not MPC 2500 big, but somewhere in between that and the 1000), applied a new type of tilt screen that's modern with color, have the body material of the MPC Studio Black, thick light up pads from the MPC X, and as always, keeping it traditional with it continuing to be a stand alone.
MPC One...
Dewane H that’s what I was thinking while reading that lol
@@jaysontompkins9016 maybe the mpc 2 will have a tilt screen
4000 killed the show. the new mpc sounds like those crappy new opamps they are putting everywhere.
Should do the new update of the comparison with 2.9 software versus the other MPCs now. You may be surprised at what you here
How did you cook em up all together like that ?
Hooked em up to the tascam neo 2488 th-cam.com/video/OzMGAlQQMu0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=LKgMCIaWWeVU-snn on separate channels.
I'm happy you did this as I was thinking of getting the X just for the easier sample editing but I also use the 4000 to control a shit ton of old analog synths and it NEVER lets me down with the ability to do complicated key groups, send CC data via q-link to filter cutoffs on synths etc.. not to mention the dope as hell timing... I even use it to do master mixes check this from my Rap Book (most doen on 2xl and 4000 and turntables (multi edits etc.)
soundcloud.com/freddy-fresh/freddy-fresh-presents-the-rap-records-the-mastermix-1-japan-box-set
Have you tried holding down shift and pressing note repeat to lock in the note repeat function? There been many years since I sold my mpc4000, but I think in the global setting or some others setting will restart the sequence with the play/start button
On the mpc4k the note repeat function is locked by default as the button toggles the function on and off when pressed once and the function is confirmed as on by a small LED located just above the button that stays lit when the function is activated. I will have to look in the globas settings and see if there is anything there regarding the sequence start functions. Thanks for the info.
I'm sorry, I was referring to note repeat lock for the MPC2500 and MPC X. You said in your video, that you had to hold the note repeat button on the MPC2500 and MPC X to trigger the pads to repeat notes. But the MPC4000's button toggles the note repeat function on and off. That's why I suggested, holding shift + the note repeat button to lock the note repeat into the on position with the MPC2500 and MPC X. I owned the MPC2000, 4000 and 5000 in the past. I now own the REN, the Touch and MPC X, which is pack away in the box in my closet. Reason is Maschine Studio is my weapon of choice now, but I'm still a fan of the MPC and I'm a gear whore.
I can dig it... just couldn't get away from the hardware feel and setup however it is a personal preference. Thank you for the tip on the note repeat button. Subscribe to my channel if you haven't already done so and let's support one another.
This video gives many good infos.
What about to compare the sampler function of theese dudes?
That's a great idea... Stay tuned and be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss the sample comparison. Thank you for the suggestion.
You're welcome :) Big up!
Im thinking about buying a mpc 4000 . I have the mpx but need better feel. I had a mpc2500 for 5 years loved it. Should of never sold it. Just got bored and everybody keep pushing me towards vsts and computer interface. It killed my workflow and my creativity. You think a 4000 will be counterintuitive when I have a MPC X?
Absolutely not! I feel you Bro... I have had a lot of people trying to pressure me into the software side of things, but I know what you mean about the feel. The machines that were made to produce music without the help of a PC will always come out on top with the best feel in my opinion. I have both the 2500 and the 4000. I started to get rid of the 2500, but decided to keep it because I like to switch up from time to time. You are right on point!
picking up a 4000 25th this month bless and gl
Mpc 3000 All Day!
i say since its 2018 to go with the MPCX WHY?? CAUSE THE MPC4000 IS OLD U BUY IT UR IT WILL BE SECOND HAND OR 3RD HAND AND HECK IF IT BREAKS DOWN ON YOU U CANT SENT IT TO AKAI TO GET IT FIXED they dont even make them no more its like buying a OPENLABS KEYBOARD there's no product support for it just like buying a ASR-10 I have that keyboard and the company DONT FIX THEM OR WORK ON THEM THATS WHY THE PRODUCER GAME IS SO TUFF U PAY OUT MONEY OVER AND OVER im just building my setup back i was using ASR-10 MPC3000 and roland vs 8track recorder today i got the MPCX and good cause with a good mic u can record 8tracks vocal bass guitar lead guitar all your musical parts and put it all on a MP3 OR WAVE FILE MPCX-- IS A STUDIO IN A BOX!!! ITS GONNA PUT A LOTTA STUDIOS OUTTA WORK
Actually, when I first bought the MPC4000 it was non-operational. I got it at a discounted price and fixed it myself. There are many youtube videos and tutorials on how to repair old equipment and this is how I have survived with vintage gear. I got the unit for under $400, then opened it up and replaced the RAM stick ($10 part) which fixed the problem and saved me quite a bit of money.
fix it yourself
No MPC 5000 comparison?
Stay tuned... more comparisons to come. I have yet to find a fellow producer that uses the MPC 5000 due to the bugs mentioned in a lot of the online forums. If I come across one though you can bet there will be a video comparison.👍
Thanks
@@deepnoteTV Theres not so many bugs.Altho there was a problem with consistency with production quality.I like it but its a bit harsh and simplistic compared to the 4000.Still i prefer it to the new MPCs.More character...
5k 2.0 kills em all.. but ok i am bias ahaha x i like it a lot for live dj is very fast plus is internal instruments are very good. As for clock . 5k easy. Flawless
ive had the mpc 2500 before and it has got to be the worse sounding mpc to get that good sound you have to back to the biege mpc 2000xl before numark bought out akai the mpc 2000 , the 3000 and the mpc 60 2 and first mpc 60 is where its at the mpc 5000 in my opinion should have been labeled the mpc 3500 because its very similiar in the sound engine and the only mpc with an actual synth engine that comes close to a moog in my opinion
I agree with you about the older MPC's having that more grindy sound with the authentic akai swing. However I also would have to put the MPC 4000 in that category... she's a BEAST not to mention the ak.sys functionality.
Like a real ass minimoog? XD
That’s BS they all sound Good ..I can get an 2500 to sound how ever I want. crunchy , clean, smooth ..whatever.. it’s not the gear its how you use it ...and the swing is not different at all ...if so prove it with a video
amon tri Naw homie,I made hella slap on a 2000 and a 2500,and it’s a difference but not enough difference not to make some hard beats my guy,jus use whaeva one dat appreciates wit wha you do best💯💯💯
The prototype was called the 3500, and they changed the name before mass production. I had the 60ll,2000xl,1000,and the 5000. And a few other ones...
4K
So stick with the new one. Better sound, far easier to use, newer and more compatibility.
Good channel! saludos from Argentina!
Welcome.... Saludos!
4000
Cool video..
Good Suff!
Everybody don’t feel bad my dumb ass sold my 4000 to my boy and got a mk2 and 5000...5000 is cool but jus way too buggy and freezes YOU HAVE to literally find ur sounds make ur sequences quick and pray u can save em fast enough lol few weeks later now I got fl studio do an mk3 and waitin on my mpc 2500
*Fl studio 20*
the 2500 doesn't disappoint either
Deep Note Productions I’m sure it’s more fun than the 5000 especially with JJOS
You had a bad unit.Neverf freeze on me and ive had two.The 5000 is a much more open field than the 2500 but unfortunately does not have JJOS.The X and Live/One are bland sounding.The 4000 is the bomb.Its got a bit of everything....
Great video I love it, I have the MPCX and the 5000. Unfortunately I sold my 2000xl. #mrpiratebrain
How do you find the MPC X compared to the 5000. I have the 5000 and playing with idea of getting the X but will need to sell the 5000
you should've kept the 2000XL and got rid of the 5000..
Man the timing is bad on the x. the only thing missing from the mpcx. It needs better swing and tighten timing.
Give the fat pads a shot
Honestly the X kills all of these.
word up
Really? I'll leave this here. I think the first two lines of the song says it all lol
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EMAX rack!
Dope
4000 is the bad bwoy which is why I don't look any further
Agreed 💯
For the niggas saying it's all sounds different are the niggas that's pure trash 🗑🗑🗑🗑🗑
Dude, N word? That's racist man not cool