PA is so kind, if you do so much damage that you overclear everywhere then you get a little break every time you have to wait for respawns. Really looking out for Nova player health.
It feels like PA don't understand the implication of their balance changes at all... Perfect example is Succ Musa vs Succ Woosa (I played both). Before the changes Musa was better then Woosa at Elvia Quint Hill, but was total trash at Tungrad Ruins. After the changes Musa is still worse then Woosa at Tungrad Ruins (worse AoE) but at Elvial Quint Hill he was the beast before and now he's insane beast. What I'm trying to say - PA has to rebalance not only class DMG but all the spots or add alternatives where the other classes will excel. (For example add spot that buffs only melee dmg) Needless to say that Tungrad Ruins is the most broken spot unless class of your choice is able to exploit Green Buff. But what if PA decide to fix it one day?
@@eredar8935 I mean yeah, the average Nova is probably about the same as a top-end Maegu since the skill requirements are so different. Since PA seems to be balancing around averages, I be the Nova averages weren't so hot XD Edit: also he's running elixirs, deep seas, furniture, etc. Most people probably grind jade on the standard consumables like a frenzy and food, not 200m/hr worth of stuff lol.
@@fredxu99 That's my point, Nova is a class that you will have to dedicate a lot of time to be the AVERAGE, Maegu after two days you are already farming efficiently
Love Nova! So sad to see awake this over tuned compared to succession in pve though :/ succ needed those buffs. Awake… do I even need to comment when she’s top 3 in all of garmoth.
It makes for a great video indeed and obviously played well. I still think that if you look at how much APM nova needs and the fatigue it comes with, I dont mind it being the best class. I think you should get rewarded for playing the most difficult and taxing one I was wondering tho ? For how long can you keep up this level ? Do you take a break after an hour and can you do multiple ?
I don't usually go for multiple hours in a row, but even after 2-3h the performance drop isn't too big. Like instead of 61k it would be 60k or sth. Well, with how much agris gets consumed during an hour you can't really go for 2 agris hours in a row here. Most of the fatigue is mental, not physical. Fingers are fine once enough muscle memory is built. Having to aim skills and track cool downs, that's the difficult part.
in the description, when you say "blue orbs" do you mean those orbs that rotate around the mobs? cause ive noticed those always form but if im fast enough they spawn in with them already on them but if not they take a sec after me hitting them to form
So basically when you kill a totem/lamp/brazier it explodes and leaves behind a blue flame/orb/thing, if you hit it once more it will explode again. Usually it wouldn't explode when no mobs were around, so by killing jade mobs and totems at the same time you could essentially speed up the next loop (and the next one, and the next one after that). That was fun. But duration of those orbs wasn't long and it wasn't too easy to abuse. Spawning an elite and going too slow would despawn the orb, same with overkilling mobs. As of 14th April, PA removed that option, you walk away from the pack - blue orb disappears. I tried doing jade yesterday and only got around 59k. Could maybe try to push for 60-61k if I tryharded with BIS consumables. But that's it, with the same gear and consumables I was getting 62.5-63k previous patch, I'm now getting 59-60k. EDIT: And a quick edit here, just went for jade again, got 61.7k/h, I think it still works fine. Might have been placebo yesterday.
That patch was actually just a visual bug fix. I spent few hours there after the patch and nothing really changes when it comes to gameplay. Previously I had assumed something must have changed but as it turned out - it was just a skill issue and placebo effect.
Are any mid game spots better income than all end game ones when tried hard like this? Also, how does this compare to end game spots in terms of physical (finger/wrist) and mental fatigue?
Depends on how you define endgame. When it comes to income I'd say best spots in the game rn are all debo spots (crypt best out of them) then tungrad ruins then dehkia tw, and then midgame spots. Most lucrative midgame spots would be fogans, jade, stars end. The only other endgame spot that could compete with those three is dehkia turos. Other good midgame spots would include giants, orcs, hexe, trolls(after the upcoming buff) and then saunils, gyfins, kratuga with agris and maybe sycraia too. But for the last 4 spots the income is already dehkia or dsr or yzra tier so not much to talk about. As for physical and mental fatigue? I'd say midgame is harder on fingers but easier on mental. But that's just my perspective.
@@PawelNovaBDO Thanks for the insight! Do you ever have any problems with your fingers during or after long grind sessions? Do you have a routine or self-imposed rule for managing dmg to fingers? If you don't mind, are you quite muscular? Sorry I'm throwing a bunch of questions. I could rarely ever grind without taking an hour long break after every hour grinding, so I wanted to know how a guru grinder would manage physical and mental health.
Luckily enough my fingers are managing fine even after few hours of grinding. It wasn't always like that though, when I was starting out I could only go for 30min before having to take a break (back then I was playing awk sorc though). Not really muscular, I do some sports but that's it. As for rules or routines - basically if you feel pain you should stop. And when grinding you should always try to minimize APM, that way your efficiency actually goes up too since by using less skills you're forced to think on how to use them the most effectively to keep up the same clear speed.
Those don't work too well in serendia elvia and midgame spots. Very bad uptime on remise and lunge. I'd recommend copying the page I had in my 46.6k giants video. You can change human dmg there to whatever you want.
As far as I know totems have a different ap cap than regular mobs so having lots of ap helps. In my case I usually kill them fast enough so using exq helps me with solo killing elites way faster.
understandable, i dont run elix combo since im slacker and have just 5 item fairy and no mp inf pot ( it rly hurts having not spirit perfume, otherwise it would take hella ton of weight for mp pots, since musa struggle with energy consuption due to dashes )
I'd be happy if they reverted yesterday's patch and just buffed non accel instead if they really want to buff her for some unknown reason, the gap between accel and non accel has become way too big lately. I was fine with nova being #1 in midgame and top tier in endgame, it wasn't balanced but I guess the payoff for APM was there. But now? She's a god in both midgame and endgame.
Her AOE is one of the best in the game, it's not succ maegu or succ/awk guardian or witch, but those are in the tier of their own. The only AOE that nova lacks in are 360 ones, but those aren't really neccessary outside of tower spots.
I really respect ppl who play this class so well. I tried it, leveled it to 60. It's a very weird feeling between yourt input and the movements, you feel free, and not free at the same time. Like going super fast in a crazy luxury car but on a shitty road. XD
That's a pretty good analogy. I think the class just feels different than most other classes since most of her dmg moves her forward and most her aoe are cones. Many classes have lots of stationary skills and lots of 360aoe skills. And there's also accel that complicates things a bit.
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PA is so kind, if you do so much damage that you overclear everywhere then you get a little break every time you have to wait for respawns. Really looking out for Nova player health.
It is starting :) .. Everyday new video INC .
WP Mate. Insane video
Absolutely insane speed. My hands cry in pain from watching this video, haha. Well played! GG
I don't think PA understands what kind of monster they've created with awakening nova.
It feels like PA don't understand the implication of their balance changes at all...
Perfect example is Succ Musa vs Succ Woosa (I played both).
Before the changes Musa was better then Woosa at Elvia Quint Hill, but was total trash at Tungrad Ruins.
After the changes Musa is still worse then Woosa at Tungrad Ruins (worse AoE) but at Elvial Quint Hill he was the beast before and now he's insane beast.
What I'm trying to say - PA has to rebalance not only class DMG but all the spots or add alternatives where the other classes will excel. (For example add spot that buffs only melee dmg)
Needless to say that Tungrad Ruins is the most broken spot unless class of your choice is able to exploit Green Buff. But what if PA decide to fix it one day?
You’re insanely fast thanks for the vid!
damn he was grinding this spot like a kratuga mobs,
Damn thats absolute madness and peak grind goblin😂 i love it
One day when I grow up big and strong, I wanna be an awk nova just like you 💪💪💪
my hands hurt just looking at this
actually insane pulling off the unimaginable yet again
well done PA, well done 😊 and well done pawel! :D
Thanks for this, much appreciated!!
BRUH! She's like stronger than maegu x2 times! Great game, nice balance!
good luck trying to play like him... Maegu much easier lol
@@eredar8935 I mean yeah, the average Nova is probably about the same as a top-end Maegu since the skill requirements are so different. Since PA seems to be balancing around averages, I be the Nova averages weren't so hot XD
Edit: also he's running elixirs, deep seas, furniture, etc. Most people probably grind jade on the standard consumables like a frenzy and food, not 200m/hr worth of stuff lol.
@@eredar8935 What's the point if she does 42-43k max. She's too slow, no matter how good u are, you are limited by her weak skills and slow speed.
@@fredxu99 That's my point, Nova is a class that you will have to dedicate a lot of time to be the AVERAGE, Maegu after two days you are already farming efficiently
would you mind sharing your settings? I have issues with my fps at times and it's causing me to be inconsistent in my grind. Cheers!
imgur.com/a/M0Jpc8R
I recommend checking acanadiandude guide. Setting up process lasso is also a good idea, it can help with stutters.
@@PawelNovaBDO thank you very much :)
Hello, i wondering, how did you manage your graphics in game, that it looks so beautiful
imgur.com/a/M0Jpc8R settings here
It's just lowest optimal + high textures.
Love Nova! So sad to see awake this over tuned compared to succession in pve though :/ succ needed those buffs. Awake… do I even need to comment when she’s top 3 in all of garmoth.
My hand hurts 🥹🥹🥹
I thought about killing elites on place but didnt test yet. So its better to use exquisite to kill elites where they spawn and simple if pulling them?
The difference is very small between the two. Use the one you prefer. Simple is AP + down attack, exquisite is crit + back, but less ap.
It makes for a great video indeed and obviously played well.
I still think that if you look at how much APM nova needs and the fatigue it comes with,
I dont mind it being the best class. I think you should get rewarded for playing the most difficult and taxing one
I was wondering tho ? For how long can you keep up this level ? Do you take a break after an hour and can you do multiple ?
I don't usually go for multiple hours in a row, but even after 2-3h the performance drop isn't too big. Like instead of 61k it would be 60k or sth. Well, with how much agris gets consumed during an hour you can't really go for 2 agris hours in a row here.
Most of the fatigue is mental, not physical. Fingers are fine once enough muscle memory is built. Having to aim skills and track cool downs, that's the difficult part.
Did you tried woosa? approximately how much does she make?
I don't play woosa but I'd expect something around 45k.
Is awaking like ninja arthritis inducing or like it’ll feel ok for like two hours before hurting?
Definitely the latter. Nova might be high apm but she also has few slow skills that allow you to rest a bit.
What did you pull in the whole hour? I mean the 61k is upscaled from 30 mins that also include heidel buff.
For the next 30min I popped blue scroll (
in the description, when you say "blue orbs" do you mean those orbs that rotate around the mobs? cause ive noticed those always form but if im fast enough they spawn in with them already on them but if not they take a sec after me hitting them to form
So basically when you kill a totem/lamp/brazier it explodes and leaves behind a blue flame/orb/thing, if you hit it once more it will explode again.
Usually it wouldn't explode when no mobs were around, so by killing jade mobs and totems at the same time you could essentially speed up the next loop (and the next one, and the next one after that). That was fun. But duration of those orbs wasn't long and it wasn't too easy to abuse. Spawning an elite and going too slow would despawn the orb, same with overkilling mobs.
As of 14th April, PA removed that option, you walk away from the pack - blue orb disappears. I tried doing jade yesterday and only got around 59k. Could maybe try to push for 60-61k if I tryharded with BIS consumables. But that's it, with the same gear and consumables I was getting 62.5-63k previous patch, I'm now getting 59-60k.
EDIT: And a quick edit here, just went for jade again, got 61.7k/h, I think it still works fine. Might have been placebo yesterday.
@@PawelNovaBDO hey Pawel, this is also after they touched the "lingering" effect of the orbs, right? With the patch on 14th Feb
That patch was actually just a visual bug fix. I spent few hours there after the patch and nothing really changes when it comes to gameplay. Previously I had assumed something must have changed but as it turned out - it was just a skill issue and placebo effect.
@@PawelNovaBDO I see, thanks for clarification :)
Are any mid game spots better income than all end game ones when tried hard like this? Also, how does this compare to end game spots in terms of physical (finger/wrist) and mental fatigue?
Depends on how you define endgame.
When it comes to income I'd say best spots in the game rn are all debo spots (crypt best out of them) then tungrad ruins then dehkia tw, and then midgame spots. Most lucrative midgame spots would be fogans, jade, stars end. The only other endgame spot that could compete with those three is dehkia turos.
Other good midgame spots would include giants, orcs, hexe, trolls(after the upcoming buff) and then saunils, gyfins, kratuga with agris and maybe sycraia too. But for the last 4 spots the income is already dehkia or dsr or yzra tier so not much to talk about.
As for physical and mental fatigue? I'd say midgame is harder on fingers but easier on mental. But that's just my perspective.
@@PawelNovaBDO Thanks for the insight! Do you ever have any problems with your fingers during or after long grind sessions? Do you have a routine or self-imposed rule for managing dmg to fingers? If you don't mind, are you quite muscular?
Sorry I'm throwing a bunch of questions. I could rarely ever grind without taking an hour long break after every hour grinding, so I wanted to know how a guru grinder would manage physical and mental health.
Luckily enough my fingers are managing fine even after few hours of grinding.
It wasn't always like that though, when I was starting out I could only go for 30min before having to take a break (back then I was playing awk sorc though).
Not really muscular, I do some sports but that's it.
As for rules or routines - basically if you feel pain you should stop. And when grinding you should always try to minimize APM, that way your efficiency actually goes up too since by using less skills you're forced to think on how to use them the most effectively to keep up the same clear speed.
Insane. GG
is your addons for this spot specific only or I can use it at other mid game grind spots such as serendia elvia spots?
Those don't work too well in serendia elvia and midgame spots. Very bad uptime on remise and lunge. I'd recommend copying the page I had in my 46.6k giants video. You can change human dmg there to whatever you want.
@@PawelNovaBDO thank you so much!
im at musa and found out giant + simple works best cuz ima able to fast ik the lamp while blasting the combo, exq make it quiet longer idk why
As far as I know totems have a different ap cap than regular mobs so having lots of ap helps. In my case I usually kill them fast enough so using exq helps me with solo killing elites way faster.
understandable, i dont run elix combo since im slacker and have just 5 item fairy and no mp inf pot ( it rly hurts having not spirit perfume, otherwise it would take hella ton of weight for mp pots, since musa struggle with energy consuption due to dashes )
@@PawelNovaBDO my cap with exq + giant was at 43k yellow, but nova is whole diff class compare to its speed and perma engarde
First candidate for nerf :(
Can you show your Settings? Like Graphics etc.
imgur.com/a/M0Jpc8R it's here
Someone *cough* Duocedil mentioned you :>
wtf did i just watch
ı am 281 ap nova worth to grind here ?
Yes, it's worth it.
Considering her as my new main, replacing my maehwa
Nova definitely more fun than maehwa, at least in my opinion. I hope you enjoy nova if you give her a try.
@@PawelNovaBDO Already tried nova, and so far I am impressed. Gameplay is easy, she is agile and the output is insane.
Oh yea btw I am curious. Why not put extra AP monster to spamable skill?
It's already on one spammable skill and one other skill that you start every other pack with. No need for more.@@adamarrah
how do you not pull the elites? im confused XD
There's so much dmg in the game right now that you don't really need to pull, especially as awk nova.
Is there no AP caps on this spot?
There's a 30% softcap. But other than that no caps.
Awesome video and grind speed. May I know your add ons for this skill rotation?
Did you check the first seconds of the video? It's there.
Animal :D Good job.
Pawel nerf
does nova need a nerf or does pawel need a nerf?🤔
I'd be happy if they reverted yesterday's patch and just buffed non accel instead if they really want to buff her for some unknown reason, the gap between accel and non accel has become way too big lately.
I was fine with nova being #1 in midgame and top tier in endgame, it wasn't balanced but I guess the payoff for APM was there. But now? She's a god in both midgame and endgame.
@@PawelNovaBDO isn't her AOE bad? i mean god for endgame and midgame spots not just for her damage, no?
Her AOE is one of the best in the game, it's not succ maegu or succ/awk guardian or witch, but those are in the tier of their own. The only AOE that nova lacks in are 360 ones, but those aren't really neccessary outside of tower spots.
@@PawelNovaBDO got it, thank you for answer, mate.
@@PawelNovaBDO one more Q, is she good now at old(but gold) spots like orcs, nagas, gyfin, quint?
nerf pawel
Didn't know Jade forest was a one shot spot xdd
I really respect ppl who play this class so well. I tried it, leveled it to 60. It's a very weird feeling between yourt input and the movements, you feel free, and not free at the same time. Like going super fast in a crazy luxury car but on a shitty road. XD
That's a pretty good analogy. I think the class just feels different than most other classes since most of her dmg moves her forward and most her aoe are cones. Many classes have lots of stationary skills and lots of 360aoe skills.
And there's also accel that complicates things a bit.
На awak DK делал тут максимум 47к мусора,но нова тут реально ебанутая
This looks mid. Class really needs a buff if they want to make it relevant on pve again.
weak class, needs more buffs
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What elixirs u used ?
It's in the video.
@@PawelNovaBDO what is W+Q skill btw..