Love DIM, used it religiously for ages, there's been tonnes of awesome features they've added. To get more specific you can also lock certain perks such as handcannon reload or extra armour for certain subclass types. Using DIM I've managed to get 5/5/2, 4/4/4, and 2/5/5 full Trials gear loadouts with handcannon reload. Possibly my favourite feature is the fact that you can save entire loadouts that you can click to swap over any and all armour/weapons for your optimised builds providing you're in Orbit or a Social space.
DIM has now a browser version in Beta that you can use on your smartphone with Chrome browser. Also works on PC of course, but I'd rather use the Plugin then anyway. Try it out!
It's not an actual app, it's a website you visit on your mobile browser. Not too sure how to link it without getting flagged but if you go to the destinyitemmanager website you can click on the link that says "web app" and it should take you there.
Thanks for the video TV! I've been preaching DIM to everyone I can for what seems like years now. Was able to build Faction armor sets at Tier 12 with no exotics back in Y2 picking the right items to infuse to improve quality et al.
Great video! I'm a big fan of DIM. I will add a few more detailed tips: 1) You can fix perks. For example you want your class item to give you increase reputation from Crucible (double, so definitely worth it), you can choose the perk from the list and it only shows items that have it. You want more ammo for machine gun? Just select the perk. 2) T12 is a lot easier to optimally get now that +special ammo perks are essentially worthless. +shotgun ammo on chest and boots used to be a must for me, almost no reason to run it anymore. 3) You can exclude items (Felwinters Artifact is excluded by default), you can also fix items instead of just perks. For example I always fix my 99% roll Ophidian Aspect when making any warlock build. And I exclude some ugly high roll chest pieces, because you know DestinyFashion. 4) DIM also shows weekly vendor rolls and you can even include them in builds before buying! 5) Blue actually means 100% maximum roll possible. Some artifacts can be over 100%. The reason for that is that artifacts with int/disc actually have a higher maximum value than any other stat combination can have (hard to tell if bug or feature). If you use Ishtar Commander, it uses the int/disc value for 100%/Gold tier so your disc/str artifact can never be 100% in Ishtar but can be 100% in DIM. It is the only armor piece where the rating system is different between these two apps.
When I was putting my tier 12 builds together I found the same thing. It made getting legendary drops exciting again. Trying to get a piece that's tier 12 capable and have all the perks you want is so much fun.
This is a super important tip, sometimes you can save a few glass needles by locking in the armor piece and using other pieces to make up for the not perfect stats of your exotic. The exotic still has to be a good roll to do it, but you can get away with a few points off maximum. another thing to note is Perks on armor. Having the right reload/melee or grenade boost on a pair of gloves is easily as important as having Tier 12.
Great advice on building T12s TV! What I'll tend to do using DIM is I'll make a build around the exotic by dragging the exotic into the slot and see DIM spits back at me that take it from there.
fyi, DIM has also a vendor tab that shows actual gear available, in the top row. In the tier build view, there's also a check box that allows u to include vendor gear.
You can also use DIM to view the rolls/percentage on all of the vender stuff each week. You can also elect to include the vender items you don't have to see if it's something you can pick up and get where you need to easily. Last note is my personal opinion don't sacrifice those speed reload gauntlets for the gun you are using just to get one more tier in something like strength. What would help you more? Hope it helps :)
For trying to get a specific exotic armor, I'd recommend re-rolling the exotic until it's green on DIM, then run the loadout builder. That way you're not looking for the exact combination.
The Ishtar Commander app for mobile is also good, it gives armor a bronze, silver, or gold rating based on the % roll it is. It can't make you builds or anything but it gives you a good quick look to see if the stat rolls are any good.
SGA - by far the easiest way to get a 552 build (in any order) is to equip a near-max rolled chest piece, together with either a near-maxed ghost or class item. 85/86 plus 34/35 gives you 120 which is already tier 2 by themselves. So you can then pour everything else into the stats you want to hit tier 5.
I didn't know about the loadout manager feature of DIM and was about to argue for the value of Tower Ghost. That's quite a lovely feature. Also one observation that I've made is that Efrideet only brings 99% or 100% armor for sale (drops can be worse).
For my build, personally, I actually use a Tier 11 Generic Base build. Essentially, I can switch out singular armour pieces, and it will either change one stat into another, or without changing stats at all. I love this, as I can use any artifact on each character, and they are going to be builds I am comfortable with using at most times. My best example is my Titan, who can use a Dis/Str Artifact for a 2/4/5 build, or a Pure Dis Artifact for a 2/5/4. If I switch my gauntlets, it's then moving from Str into Int, so I can run higher Int when Melee is less important. I have Chestplates that change Int into Dis, so more or less grenades if something like Grenadier or Mayhem is active. I freaking love it, as it makes my builds easily flexible for most encounters. :D
Also guys the artefacts to look for are the ones with 50/80 its a bug so they drop with 120% of max role only on discipline strength artefacts :) makes tier 12 a hell of alot easier
I'm a titan main, who dabbles in warlock/hunter. I've been running tier 11 for ages because I prefer the perks on my armour to the extra strength bar. I don't melee people often enough to feel like I'm missing out on it. But 4/4/4 for defender I'd be tempted to work on. My clan is done with trials though until destiny 2 comes out. Sad times.
My warlock got tier 12 with 4 4 4 set up with ophidian,imo it's the best set up, but i recently I randomly got 3 5 4 tier with the ram, if you got top tier armor just remove them and you'll get another set up, this IB got god tier armor so go buy it unless you want your character to looks good. Sorry for bad english i speak a little bit. People will have something to do bfore D2. Nice vid TV as always
The real question is if it is worth sacrificing an 11 tier build with an artifact with a unique ability to get a vanilla 12 tiers instead. More specifically: try not split stats; i.e. always go 5/5/2 if you want 12. Not 4/4/4 or 5/3/4. Tiers decrease cooldowns the higher they are, and a 5/5/2 is always better than 4/4/4 or 5/3/4 for that reason. The difference in cooldown for grenades from tier 4 to 5 is 9 seconds, and from tier 1 to 2 it's 6 seconds, decreasing your cooldown 1 additional second per tier. If you can get 5/5/2 with a unique Artifact (a good one like Silimar or Jolder's), that is your best bet. Each build is different yet focuses on 2 main stats - make sure those 2 main stats are at tier 5.
A good way to finish your build is with the days of iron gear from the book, which comes with a different stat roll every time (p.s the gauntlets always have hand cannon reloader)
I've managed a 4 5 3 build on my gunslinger with good looking old school iron banner gear it looks great and performs well it is definitely fun grinding for but it's easier to just get and store a bunch of armor for a week or two then go and look at the stat possible options that way it doesn't feel like a grind.
Having 100% Ghost and Class Item and +100% Artifact will help tremendously building T12 loadouts. The peak stats on those items will help make up points that your favorite armor pieces might be lacking. You don't want to sacrifice stat points on your Helmet with PVP perks or Gauntlets with your preferred weapon reload.
I have a tier 12 gunslinger hunter with , 3 intellect, 5 discipline, 4 strength with double trips and knifes with the gunfighter perk on the skill tree and it's really fun to use
dim doesn't show all the builds you can get but the most efficient ones, if you have something you want to use goin the loadout builder menu show warlock gear for example and do a simple drag and drop on the piece of gear you want to use
I guess a better overall question I kind of have... is a tier-12 build more or less important than a tier-11 with preferable perk rolls? I've been playing since launch, but I'm not really 20+ hour a week player. I have 3 Hunters so that I could share armor between them early on for raids. Since they released the new classes in Y2, I'm 99% just maining a Nightstalker. I like it, the support aspects appeal to me, and I have fun with it. As a formal heads up, I also basically have a PVE character, a PVP character, and an item mule. This way, I don't have to keep switching armor/weapons back and fourth cause I use different things on each. PVP I really only use HCs/Scouts, while PVP I use Pulses/Scouts. PVE Sniper with PVP Sidearm, and then rockets for both. Because of this, I'm finding it somewhat hard to still even get a tier-12 loadout. Mainly, because I'm always looking for perks that relate. If it's a good rolled chest piece but it has Solar Sheild, I won't use it since it's a void class. Arms with reload perks for auto rifles do me no good. Hell, I'm angrily sitting on a 100% Int/Dis Bones of Eao roll in my vault that has Ammo+ for Shotguns and Machine Guns that I never use. I'm currently using a 96% raid arm piece over a 100% roll that I have because the 96% has Reload+ for Scout Rifles. I know it's little things, but they are little annoyances that would bother me. I don't like using things that don't benefit directly. If that makes sense.
Those set of bones were for PVE, so I was looking for ammo in Scouts/HCs/Snipers/Rockets, which is why I was holding off. PVE I like that extra rocket since it lets a Gally hold an even 6 instead of 5 IIRC. High Impact snipers get that extra clip which is also nice. The pair I have now is I/D anyways at like 96%, just on principal though ha
TCF DoNotPassGo Nightstalker is tricky because you probably want to go with a different stat mix for PvE and PvP. 5/5/x for the former, x/5/5 for the latter. Loader and ammo bonuses should always get priority over T12 IMHO. Best suggestions I have to get going are 1. To focus on getting 125+ point INT/DIS artifacts, which will be the anchor of either build and 2. To stockpile perfectly rolled ghosts and class items with differing stats, which are available regularly now through vendors. Love my BowHunter as well, best of luck to you!
with my gunslinger I run 4int, 4disc, and 3str. Having tier 12 would be nice but I thoroughly enjoy my setup 4:20 for a super 34 secs for my nade and 49 secs for my knifes witch I run with 2 is just about perfect for me. yes someone else here and there catches me without but I feel it's worth it.
On Android there is an app called "The Vault" that also shows your percent roll on armor. Super easy to transfer stuff and has a nice clean UI. You can even save loadouts. So much better imo than the destiny app that Android has.
I usually check peoples builds randomly. while in the tower, ect. and I rarely see tier 10 or 11 builds. I think its just one of those things people don't pay attention too
Question, how important is it for you for additional stats such, ammo, weapon reload and so on and so forth? is tier 12 more important than any of those?
I go for T11 with right perks and good looks first, in all the variations I need for different weapons and PvP vs PvE. Most are 5 Int/5 Dis so going from a 1 to 2 Str isn't a huge deal for me. I don't grind for it, but I do keep an eye out for T12 gear and only add it if it really fits. Destiny Item Manager is THE BEST!!
Perks and appearance are much more important to me than maximum stats. TV, you didn't say anything about the Wrath of the Machine armor. You can re-roll it just like exotic armor by using Siva Key Fragments. It only takes 5 to re-roll the armor and you get 10 or more for a full run through of the raid.
tier 12 is easy if you've do like the last 5 iron banners. my titan, Hunter, and warlock all have 552 and 444 builds. I'm now trying to get a 255 for my warlock aswell.
I've got like six tier 12 builds. I never once farmed for it. I just kept the gear with the highest numbers and the perks I use, like shotgun ammo. To be honest, it's not a huge deal. The difference in having 120 strength versus 85 strength is negligible.
DIM i found doesn't show all T12 builds, if you have a yellow stat garrison, add it to the loadout and see if other items allow for T12 build, i run a 93% garrison as my ghost etc make up for the stat drop
Here are the max stat numbers if anyone wants to know. Helmet = 46/65 Arms = 41/58 Chest = 61/86 Boots = 56/79 Class item = 25/35 Ghost = 25/35 Artifact = 44/87 The artifact can go a lot higher idk why people have listed 44/87 as 100%, but owell. The highest I've seen so far is 51/94. So if you're majorly lacking with armor rolls, the artifact could save you.
I have my tier 12 builds for all my characters, the only problem is I recently have fallen in love with the jolder artifact and the one I have is not tier 12 and that lady won't give tier 12 jolders out.
i got a 112% artifact of silimar. I also got a 114% hunter relique. + i got 3 100% ghost. (1 ghost ghost and 2 Crota ghost. I think that the new Crota ghost is always a 100% god roll cause i got 3 of them and they where all 100%. + I am pretty sure that the new chest at the beginning of the VOG (in the jumping part) also give 100+% god roll relique cause every time i get a relique from it, it's always equal or better than 100%.
Glass needles can be fickle. I spent 172 (yes 172) trying for Int Dis Impossible Machines. Didn't get them so stuck with the 100% Int Strength ones I had
Tip,There is A other website called "DestinyTailor", that helps you even if your armor stats are 97+ to decide which build you want like 444 or 552 or 345
I find that DIM often says I have a T12, but when I equip it, and get it upgraded, and the perks all selected correctly, I am still a few points short on one of the stats, and just have a T11 instead. Anyone else having this issue?
I'm running a 4/4/4 on my gunslinger with 240 on ever perk, it took me ~160 glassneedles to get my bones rolled how I wanted them though and I wasn't even looking for a 100%
I did mine without an app and just moved stuff around and got tier 11 with 4-5-2 and only 6 points off from getting intellect to 5 but it's so hard to get that last chunk
I personally prefer tier 11 builds with the right perks, such as HC reload, Ashes to Assets, increased melee speed (most of the time), right armor stat perk for chest (MASSIVELY IMPORTANT FOR TITANS!) and Last Hope. Those give a bigger advantage than 9sec faster melee cooldown in my opinion. Also T11+Gheleon is MUCH better than T12+random artifact. On my Titan I have 3 Int/Dis Garrisons, one with arc, one with solar and one with void armor. Why? Because Garrison is ridiculously good (=too good) and I want to use it on every subclass. Also contrary to popular belief, any Titan subclass can get over 200hp, Striker without Unstoppable too. +200hp is a huge advantage in 1v1 with HCs for obvious reasons.
Love DIM, used it religiously for ages, there's been tonnes of awesome features they've added. To get more specific you can also lock certain perks such as handcannon reload or extra armour for certain subclass types.
Using DIM I've managed to get 5/5/2, 4/4/4, and 2/5/5 full Trials gear loadouts with handcannon reload.
Possibly my favourite feature is the fact that you can save entire loadouts that you can click to swap over any and all armour/weapons for your optimised builds providing you're in Orbit or a Social space.
It's a Chrome Browser plugin.
It's a browser plugin on the PC. Although there's also a beta web app version you can use on mobile.
Waltee Wartooth
ive been trying to look for that app for the smartphone but no luck
DIM has now a browser version in Beta that you can use on your smartphone with Chrome browser. Also works on PC of course, but I'd rather use the Plugin then anyway. Try it out!
It's not an actual app, it's a website you visit on your mobile browser. Not too sure how to link it without getting flagged but if you go to the destinyitemmanager website you can click on the link that says "web app" and it should take you there.
Ishtar Commander is a good app on IOS and Android
+Oliver Jackson It will tell you if something is T12 capable by the percentage, but won't organize into T12 for you.
Oliver Jackson just know your Max stat rolls and then add everything together on paper not that hard lol
Thanks for the video TV! I've been preaching DIM to everyone I can for what seems like years now. Was able to build Faction armor sets at Tier 12 with no exotics back in Y2 picking the right items to infuse to improve quality et al.
Great video! I'm a big fan of DIM. I will add a few more detailed tips:
1) You can fix perks. For example you want your class item to give you increase reputation from Crucible (double, so definitely worth it), you can choose the perk from the list and it only shows items that have it. You want more ammo for machine gun? Just select the perk.
2) T12 is a lot easier to optimally get now that +special ammo perks are essentially worthless. +shotgun ammo on chest and boots used to be a must for me, almost no reason to run it anymore.
3) You can exclude items (Felwinters Artifact is excluded by default), you can also fix items instead of just perks. For example I always fix my 99% roll Ophidian Aspect when making any warlock build. And I exclude some ugly high roll chest pieces, because you know DestinyFashion.
4) DIM also shows weekly vendor rolls and you can even include them in builds before buying!
5) Blue actually means 100% maximum roll possible. Some artifacts can be over 100%. The reason for that is that artifacts with int/disc actually have a higher maximum value than any other stat combination can have (hard to tell if bug or feature). If you use Ishtar Commander, it uses the int/disc value for 100%/Gold tier so your disc/str artifact can never be 100% in Ishtar but can be 100% in DIM. It is the only armor piece where the rating system is different between these two apps.
the birds outside piped up during your outro music and it gave me a huge sense of peace, just wanted to thank you
Ishtar commander is also a great app that shows you stat rolls on your armour it's available on iphone/iPad android also
here's an other tipp for everyone, ironbanner sells a 100% chest piece and some 100% boots, also vanguard has a 100% ghost this week
So does FWC
There's 100% ghosts all over the place this week.
When I was putting my tier 12 builds together I found the same thing. It made getting legendary drops exciting again. Trying to get a piece that's tier 12 capable and have all the perks you want is so much fun.
With DIM you can lock in and exclude items from consideration at the loadout builder page. That's how I specify my Gheleon or garrison
It's a chrome extension
This is a super important tip, sometimes you can save a few glass needles by locking in the armor piece and using other pieces to make up for the not perfect stats of your exotic. The exotic still has to be a good roll to do it, but you can get away with a few points off maximum.
another thing to note is Perks on armor. Having the right reload/melee or grenade boost on a pair of gloves is easily as important as having Tier 12.
Great advice on building T12s TV!
What I'll tend to do using DIM is I'll make a build around the exotic by dragging the exotic into the slot and see DIM spits back at me that take it from there.
your year 2 videos are so nostalgic the opening music with the piano is awesome
fyi, DIM has also a vendor tab that shows actual gear available, in the top row. In the tier build view, there's also a check box that allows u to include vendor gear.
Really cool thumbnails man! Keep it up!
You can also use DIM to view the rolls/percentage on all of the vender stuff each week. You can also elect to include the vender items you don't have to see if it's something you can pick up and get where you need to easily. Last note is my personal opinion don't sacrifice those speed reload gauntlets for the gun you are using just to get one more tier in something like strength. What would help you more? Hope it helps :)
PSN: Jessiekilledyou I always run into that dilemma. I ALWAYS want a faster reload on my gauntlets
marl745 I agree!
For trying to get a specific exotic armor, I'd recommend re-rolling the exotic until it's green on DIM, then run the loadout builder. That way you're not looking for the exact combination.
The Ishtar Commander app for mobile is also good, it gives armor a bronze, silver, or gold rating based on the % roll it is. It can't make you builds or anything but it gives you a good quick look to see if the stat rolls are any good.
Man, you're so well spoken and easygoing. I admire that very much.
You can also use subclass perks such as gunfighter on gunslinger, or frost-ee5 to get the max out of it :)
I'm Goose, one of the maintainers of DIM. Thanks for sharing your workflow for improving your armor items. I'll share it with our community.
SGA - by far the easiest way to get a 552 build (in any order) is to equip a near-max rolled chest piece, together with either a near-maxed ghost or class item. 85/86 plus 34/35 gives you 120 which is already tier 2 by themselves. So you can then pour everything else into the stats you want to hit tier 5.
Don't get me wrong, I love your highlight videos. But I learn so much when you do videos like this... keep up the great work TV!
I didn't know about the loadout manager feature of DIM and was about to argue for the value of Tower Ghost. That's quite a lovely feature.
Also one observation that I've made is that Efrideet only brings 99% or 100% armor for sale (drops can be worse).
For my build, personally, I actually use a Tier 11 Generic Base build. Essentially, I can switch out singular armour pieces, and it will either change one stat into another, or without changing stats at all. I love this, as I can use any artifact on each character, and they are going to be builds I am comfortable with using at most times. My best example is my Titan, who can use a Dis/Str Artifact for a 2/4/5 build, or a Pure Dis Artifact for a 2/5/4. If I switch my gauntlets, it's then moving from Str into Int, so I can run higher Int when Melee is less important. I have Chestplates that change Int into Dis, so more or less grenades if something like Grenadier or Mayhem is active. I freaking love it, as it makes my builds easily flexible for most encounters. :D
I would take good looking tier 11 armour over dumb looking tier 12 armour any day.
Erryday
Julian Lawrie that's what's holding me back from my tier 12 lol hahah I can get a tier 12 but my titan needs to look crispy in the crucible
Totally get you man :)
Same. Half the fun of Destiny (to me) is playing dress-up with my guardians.
Glad so many agree :)
Also guys the artefacts to look for are the ones with 50/80 its a bug so they drop with 120% of max role only on discipline strength artefacts :) makes tier 12 a hell of alot easier
I'm a titan main, who dabbles in warlock/hunter. I've been running tier 11 for ages because I prefer the perks on my armour to the extra strength bar. I don't melee people often enough to feel like I'm missing out on it. But 4/4/4 for defender I'd be tempted to work on. My clan is done with trials though until destiny 2 comes out. Sad times.
Finally someone who understands the needs of the tier 12. Btw: minute 7:05 perfect example of bungie spawn system -.- happens all the time to me xD
My warlock got tier 12 with 4 4 4 set up with ophidian,imo it's the best set up, but i recently I randomly got 3 5 4 tier with the ram, if you got top tier armor just remove them and you'll get another set up, this IB got god tier armor so go buy it unless you want your character to looks good. Sorry for bad english i speak a little bit. People will have something to do bfore D2. Nice vid TV as always
You are awesome, I have learned a lot from your videos and look forward to improving my PvP skills with your help.
Thanks
The real question is if it is worth sacrificing an 11 tier build with an artifact with a unique ability to get a vanilla 12 tiers instead. More specifically: try not split stats; i.e. always go 5/5/2 if you want 12. Not 4/4/4 or 5/3/4. Tiers decrease cooldowns the higher they are, and a 5/5/2 is always better than 4/4/4 or 5/3/4 for that reason. The difference in cooldown for grenades from tier 4 to 5 is 9 seconds, and from tier 1 to 2 it's 6 seconds, decreasing your cooldown 1 additional second per tier. If you can get 5/5/2 with a unique Artifact (a good one like Silimar or Jolder's), that is your best bet. Each build is different yet focuses on 2 main stats - make sure those 2 main stats are at tier 5.
A good way to finish your build is with the days of iron gear from the book, which comes with a different stat roll every time (p.s the gauntlets always have hand cannon reloader)
Been on the T12 gear chase since Taken Spring. What a ride. Nice vid, my dude.
corruptor5150 same
I've managed a 4 5 3 build on my gunslinger with good looking old school iron banner gear it looks great and performs well it is definitely fun grinding for but it's easier to just get and store a bunch of armor for a week or two then go and look at the stat possible options that way it doesn't feel like a grind.
I love dato, and he made a video about this too. honestly I didn't fully understand it till this video. so thanks man. good video.
I play titan, hunter, warlock all tire 12 builds...sinice last year it's a must for pvp
Great video turevanguard 👍
Having 100% Ghost and Class Item and +100% Artifact will help tremendously building T12 loadouts. The peak stats on those items will help make up points that your favorite armor pieces might be lacking. You don't want to sacrifice stat points on your Helmet with PVP perks or Gauntlets with your preferred weapon reload.
ishtar commander for destiny is exactly like DIM except for your mobile, great functionality and I've never turned away from it
I have a tier 12 gunslinger hunter with , 3 intellect, 5 discipline, 4 strength with double trips and knifes with the gunfighter perk on the skill tree and it's really fun to use
I have a 4-5-3 build w my Nightstalker, using VoG ornamented armor, couldn't be more happy about it
Ishtar commander app can give you the armor grades too. It is a pretty good app in general
Ishtar commander app for mobile is a really good app to manage your gear you have to change settings to see gear ratings tho
You can also re roll the book of iron stuff so u can make the one you want so I been able to get tier 12 on all my characters
dim doesn't show all the builds you can get but the most efficient ones, if you have something you want to use goin the loadout builder menu show warlock gear for example and do a simple drag and drop on the piece of gear you want to use
and you can also check vendor rolls from dim itself
wow tv your such an awesome youtuber for the destiny community. you are my favorite youtuber of all time
I guess a better overall question I kind of have... is a tier-12 build more or less important than a tier-11 with preferable perk rolls?
I've been playing since launch, but I'm not really 20+ hour a week player. I have 3 Hunters so that I could share armor between them early on for raids. Since they released the new classes in Y2, I'm 99% just maining a Nightstalker. I like it, the support aspects appeal to me, and I have fun with it. As a formal heads up, I also basically have a PVE character, a PVP character, and an item mule. This way, I don't have to keep switching armor/weapons back and fourth cause I use different things on each. PVP I really only use HCs/Scouts, while PVP I use Pulses/Scouts. PVE Sniper with PVP Sidearm, and then rockets for both.
Because of this, I'm finding it somewhat hard to still even get a tier-12 loadout. Mainly, because I'm always looking for perks that relate. If it's a good rolled chest piece but it has Solar Sheild, I won't use it since it's a void class. Arms with reload perks for auto rifles do me no good. Hell, I'm angrily sitting on a 100% Int/Dis Bones of Eao roll in my vault that has Ammo+ for Shotguns and Machine Guns that I never use. I'm currently using a 96% raid arm piece over a 100% roll that I have because the 96% has Reload+ for Scout Rifles.
I know it's little things, but they are little annoyances that would bother me. I don't like using things that don't benefit directly. If that makes sense.
Those set of bones were for PVE, so I was looking for ammo in Scouts/HCs/Snipers/Rockets, which is why I was holding off. PVE I like that extra rocket since it lets a Gally hold an even 6 instead of 5 IIRC. High Impact snipers get that extra clip which is also nice. The pair I have now is I/D anyways at like 96%, just on principal though ha
TCF DoNotPassGo Nightstalker is tricky because you probably want to go with a different stat mix for PvE and PvP. 5/5/x for the former, x/5/5 for the latter. Loader and ammo bonuses should always get priority over T12 IMHO. Best suggestions I have to get going are 1. To focus on getting 125+ point INT/DIS artifacts, which will be the anchor of either build and 2. To stockpile perfectly rolled ghosts and class items with differing stats, which are available regularly now through vendors.
Love my BowHunter as well, best of luck to you!
thx so much TV really needed one of these videos. Really helpful and overall great vid👍👍👍
You were the first TH-camr I subscribed to
it only matters if you need it too. Melee charge? Very situational in that I always have a melee when it counts. Therefore tier 10 works for me.
with my gunslinger I run 4int, 4disc, and 3str. Having tier 12 would be nice but I thoroughly enjoy my setup 4:20 for a super 34 secs for my nade and 49 secs for my knifes witch I run with 2 is just about perfect for me. yes someone else here and there catches me without but I feel it's worth it.
On Android there is an app called "The Vault" that also shows your percent roll on armor. Super easy to transfer stuff and has a nice clean UI. You can even save loadouts. So much better imo than the destiny app that Android has.
loving the new thumbnails 😍
I usually check peoples builds randomly. while in the tower, ect. and I rarely see tier 10 or 11 builds. I think its just one of those things people don't pay attention too
got a tier 12 build with the year two iron banner gear. so happy with it (:
Question, how important is it for you for additional stats such, ammo, weapon reload and so on and so forth? is tier 12 more important than any of those?
I go for T11 with right perks and good looks first, in all the variations I need for different weapons and PvP vs PvE. Most are 5 Int/5 Dis so going from a 1 to 2 Str isn't a huge deal for me. I don't grind for it, but I do keep an eye out for T12 gear and only add it if it really fits. Destiny Item Manager is THE BEST!!
Mesa Sean and Houndish are good for stat rolls too.
Destiny tailor is also a good way to make a build. The website lets you know what build you have and what you need to attain it
Just a heads up for smartphone users- Ishtar Commander does every single function DIM does, but it's for smartphones. Just so y'all know.
Nice you answered my only question which was does "DIM" work on non leveled gear and it does
I couldn't find that specific Destiny item manager you mentioned?
Perks and appearance are much more important to me than maximum stats.
TV, you didn't say anything about the Wrath of the Machine armor. You can re-roll it just like exotic armor by using Siva Key Fragments. It only takes 5 to re-roll the armor and you get 10 or more for a full run through of the raid.
I've been rockin 4/4/4 on every character since the april update, yet to get above 98% on a trials piece though.
tier 12 is easy if you've do like the last 5 iron banners. my titan, Hunter, and warlock all have 552 and 444 builds. I'm now trying to get a 255 for my warlock aswell.
What's the name of the fusion rifle that you were using and where can I get It TV?
saladin's vigil and you can get it through the archon's forge bud
I've got like six tier 12 builds. I never once farmed for it. I just kept the gear with the highest numbers and the perks I use, like shotgun ammo. To be honest, it's not a huge deal. The difference in having 120 strength versus 85 strength is negligible.
Ishtar commander is awesome as well! Great app
Dude, I learn so much from you.
Hey TV what is your opinion on Intellect for Nightstalker? I've seen so many people that completely disregard it or even just run Felwinter.
DIM i found doesn't show all T12 builds, if you have a yellow stat garrison, add it to the loadout and see if other items allow for T12 build, i run a 93% garrison as my ghost etc make up for the stat drop
I've seen a tier 14 build, I have a screenshot of it. They had a tier 14 because of memory of felwinter.
Fashion over Tier 12 any day of the week. You're always telling us to stick it to the meta, TV, and this is how I do it. :P
Here are the max stat numbers if anyone wants to know.
Helmet = 46/65
Arms = 41/58
Chest = 61/86
Boots = 56/79
Class item = 25/35
Ghost = 25/35
Artifact = 44/87
The artifact can go a lot higher idk why people have listed 44/87 as 100%, but owell. The highest I've seen so far is 51/94. So if you're majorly lacking with armor rolls, the artifact could save you.
This intro music is sooooo relaxing.
Hey tv! What do you use to make your thumbnails ? Is it bazaart by any chance
I have my tier 12 builds for all my characters, the only problem is I recently have fallen in love with the jolder artifact and the one I have is not tier 12 and that lady won't give tier 12 jolders out.
DIM has a vender bar that will show you the stat rolls on all vender gear as well. check that stuff out guys. thanks TV
i got a 112% artifact of silimar. I also got a 114% hunter relique. + i got 3 100% ghost. (1 ghost ghost and 2 Crota ghost.
I think that the new Crota ghost is always a 100% god roll cause i got 3 of them and they where all 100%. + I am pretty sure that the new chest at the beginning of the VOG (in the jumping part) also give 100+% god roll relique cause every time i get a relique from it, it's always equal or better than 100%.
can you transfer a 100% stat roll to an empty armor piece like the taken or iron lord armor pieces.
Glass needles can be fickle. I spent 172 (yes 172) trying for Int Dis Impossible Machines. Didn't get them so stuck with the 100% Int Strength ones I had
WeAreNoobz you can check the rolls on the databases - some are static and will only change in number.
I got Int Dis, but not a high enough roll to make me happy
I got an max rolled bones of eao and voidvang vestments both on my second glass needle
What roll do you have on that Saladin's if you don't mind me asking?
Tip,There is A other website called "DestinyTailor", that helps you even if your armor stats are 97+ to decide which build you want like 444 or 552 or 345
ItsGhostKiller10 does destiny tailor work for legacy consoles?
shane price idk, you could try!
shane price :)
Currently destinytailor.com doesn't work, it stopped working correctly after Age of Triumph dropped.
DIM does this as well, unless you are saying something else?
u can just get the exotic to 95% or higher roll then tell the loadout builder to use that exotic. its way easier then what TV says
Quick question: Is it possible to get tier 12 stats with an artifact of the iron lords? It seems to me that anyone I see with tier 12 never has one on
i have a question is the app called destiny vault item manager or is it just destiny item manager. and is it available on a phone
I find that DIM often says I have a T12, but when I equip it, and get it upgraded, and the perks all selected correctly, I am still a few points short on one of the stats, and just have a T11 instead. Anyone else having this issue?
Is it better to run tier 12 or to run a tier 11 with a relic that does improve your abilities like no sprint cooldown or whatever TV?
@ 0:13 tap firing the Nemesis Star is brutal no one stood a chance ;)
this helped me out so much! Thankyou
Amazing video tv as always
Got a T12 on my Nightstalker, 2/5/5/ is awsome for running Tether
What's the orange armor indicator mean??
I'm running a 4/4/4 on my gunslinger with 240 on ever perk, it took me ~160 glassneedles to get my bones rolled how I wanted them though and I wasn't even looking for a 100%
I did mine without an app and just moved stuff around and got tier 11 with 4-5-2 and only 6 points off from getting intellect to 5 but it's so hard to get that last chunk
finally I watched u on Sunday and I was like tier 10 crap
Dashboard Gaming same here
I personally prefer tier 11 builds with the right perks, such as HC reload, Ashes to Assets, increased melee speed (most of the time), right armor stat perk for chest (MASSIVELY IMPORTANT FOR TITANS!) and Last Hope. Those give a bigger advantage than 9sec faster melee cooldown in my opinion. Also T11+Gheleon is MUCH better than T12+random artifact.
On my Titan I have 3 Int/Dis Garrisons, one with arc, one with solar and one with void armor. Why? Because Garrison is ridiculously good (=too good) and I want to use it on every subclass. Also contrary to popular belief, any Titan subclass can get over 200hp, Striker without Unstoppable too. +200hp is a huge advantage in 1v1 with HCs for obvious reasons.
Like if True vanguard is awesome
Cameron Nicholson 😍
WTF rip changed his comment or ?
True Vanguard I managed to get a thirteen tier build with memory of felwinter
Cameron Nicholson and with my 5/5/2 I have dunemarchers so my Titan is complete lol
hunter luck I got a 5/5/2 with the armentarium, I spent so many resources on glass needles to get that perfect roll
i switch my armors and exotic armors so much i cant keep track of it all.I just hope whatever i wear sums up to 11 which it usssualy does
Tier 12 with full trials gear,perfectly rolled perks also. Only 2-3 months
I use blade with 5-5-1 along with fast twitch for my melee. Which gives me 5-5-5.