Why I wear my spurs different to most arborists
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2020
- Dan explains why he wears the straps of his spurs in an unconventional way.
The question very often gets asked "Why do you wear your spurs like that?" So we thought we'd share it with the arb community and for some of you, you may find you prefer it this way.
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I like this method. I have also seen folks do a wrap around the shaft above the spur and then buckle. That seems even more secure and no real way to damage the strap itself
You legend, I was always finding my spurs coming lose within the hour of a dismantle. Some people bang on about wrapping the strap around the stem of the spurs but me boots have always been too wide. This is a game changer.
Thanks dude!
After 40 yrs. of climbing, I am going to try this! Thanks...
It’s never a problem for me but I wear loggers with taller heels so the spur can’t slide out from the arch of my foot.
I'm just a homeowner that likes to climb and do my own tree work. I'm still a newb about it but I've watched a ton of your videos and appreciate your tips. I'm gonna bring down some black pines today and planned on spiking up them to get a rope in the tree then use my 5-1 pulley setup and pull them in "the path of least destruction". I'll give strapping below the spike a try.
I have never had this problem, but I am glad you have a solution if it is a problem you experience. Thank you for sharing and stay safe!
used this for a year now , will never go back , works so well keeping the position of the spike hugged into the centre of the foot so it doesnt slip off the back of the heel , especially if using boots with wear or not alot of heel , wish id discovered this 10 yrs ago , u learn every day , thanks dan !
Gonna try this next week. Thanks for the insight.
Great instruction, thanks for taking the time to help others . I agree with what you did, much more rigid.
I do this now too. I was having the same problem too. I was just searching videos to see if the new way was wrong.. so thanks for clearing this up for me.. it's also less constricting and more comfortable. I was thinking of just adding an extra lower strap for straight over cross for even more security.. but this method works great.. simplicity
Nice! I usually do the wrap trick, but I'll give this a try! Thanks for sharing.
Love the tip as always. my addition to it, when I tried wrapping around the bar "which I still do" I did it to one foot and not the other, and then as I climbed and when I got down I thought about witch foot felt better. You have the perfect experiment at your finger tips and I will now try it with your technique. if I had more money I would test out different spurs and pads this way too.
That’s always a great idea to see which works and feels the best. 👍
I wrap the strap around the gaffs from time to time. If I’m climbing for more than 6hrs straight, I’ll wrap it traditionally as it feels more comfortable on my ankle and heels
Just tried this the past few days climbing, everything doesn't get as loose 👏 good work
I used this technique and found it quite helpful. Eventually I bought the V2 Lower Straps from Nugreens & it works similarly, plus the velcro allows a snugger fit. I'm assuming you've seen these, Dan, but if you haven't checked them out you absolutely should.
Great video! Thanks for the tip. Also, chipdrop rocks!!
Great tip I will have to try it!!
It’s so much better! One thing less to have to worry about! Thanks man
Where where you 25 years ago when I first started climbing? Brilliant. Thanks
This is going to change my level of comfort big time can’t wait to try it on Monday
I always wrap once around this keeps the spur in place and secure never loosens up and keeps the strap from strangling your foot
Saw you do this in a video 2 years ago and used your technique ever since. Thanks Dan
How do you find this way of wearing the Spurs compared to how you wore them before?
Thank you I can't wait to try out my spikes like that next time I use them it looks more comfortable
I’ve been a climber for 35 years and that idea is so perfect why didn’t I think of that. I do t like big heel boots so this is beautiful
Works really well for me, thanks for the tip Dan 👍
AWESOME TIP ! THANKS . I USALLY WRAP MY STRAP AROUND THE SPIKE ! THAT SEENS TO WORK WELL TO !
Nice!!! Definitely going to try this mate cheers!!
You should look at the velcro lower straps. I have the same spikes and they are unbelievably more comfortable than the leather straps and allow you to get the correct tightness. I always pass my strap over the stem above the gaff. Watching you tighten those down on the gaff, my thought is those will ride up and off the gaff and become loose very quickly.
Great pointer !! Thanks
Excellent!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT TIP.
Buckingham Velcro Lower Straps
These are amazing no more fighting to get that next notch truly are game changers and are compatible with most spurs
Thanks! I will give it a try.
I’ll give it a try. I usually do 1 wrap around the spur
Nice. Tip. So let's practice. Thank you my Friend you are professional!
super sic i will try this out on my next work thx man really cool
remember to round the edges on the inside of the spur with a file. So that the strap is not cut.
Thx sharp point.
Good Vid Mate! I noticed it in your video speed lining a conifer out but it was ages later I twigged something was different about your straps! :D
This does depend on the Brand of spurs, boots and the combination of both. For example, I regularly use Haix Protector Pro boots and Bashlin steel twisted shank climbers and they have NEVER moved (been using this combination for about 8 years!). But other climbers have used my spurs and found they slipped on their boots or couldn't tighten them down onto their smaller boots. likewise I have found other brands of spurs slipped off of my boots when they rode over the heel.
Great comments dude, I appreciate it, and I'm sure others will too
Thank you for that. i've been using spurs for more then twenty years and i'll try your method. I first used the buckinghams
, but they were eating into my knees as i'm a short guy. Then i bought the climb spurs and that fixed the problem!
Awesome, let me know after a few climbs how you find it. It may feel a little strange at first.
I’m gonna try this. Thanks
Great tip Dan! One Question - Do the straps wear out quicker?
Unbelievable Jeff !! Great advice 👍🏻
GAME CHANGER!! why didn't I think of that??? I will try that on my next climb. I could imagine it would also be easier to pull the spur out after working in the same position for a while and really sinking it deep. Thank you!! 🤘
Thanks for the comment bro, I’m so glad you like the content, I hope this method works for you 🤙
Defo gonna try this out tomorrow! I've tried boots with taller heels and wrapping the strap around the shank and neither has given me much confidence on my spurs. This seems to be the technique I was looking for! Thanks!
Awesome, let me know how it goes for you after a few climbs.
@@ClimbingArborist went very well. Done 3 climbs with spurs since seeing this and it's my normal set up now. Funny thing is that I initially though that's how you were supposed to wear them but someone told me not to do it that way when I started climbing.
Awesome, thank you!!
May God bless you sir for these instructional and informative videos. The noobs like me need all the wisdom we can gather.
I've tried this, and with the boots i was wearing had concerns about the strap slipping over my heel. I could never get wrapping the straps (don't remember why, boot too wide or it just didn't pull the gaffe against my foot). I've been climbing on notch Gekkos for a 6 months now, they have holes for attaching spike acenders. I use throw line to tie a screw link tight to the frame against the front hole, and put my strap through that. Haven't done anything else since i started that. The only issue being that the strap does rub against the mounting screws for the spikes, and is wearing through the straps.
Def going to post a vid of me trying this on my channel
I used to swap out the foot straps for cycle toe peg straps and go through the Allen bolts.
Have to give that a try Dan 👍
Great idea...I will try this:)
I've always just wrapped the strap round the shank above the spur. Works marvelously gives same result. I use pole gaffs though not sure how that would work with those may interfere a bit more than your tree gaffs.
Brother, your a life saver
I forget how many months or years ago I watched this the first time, but starting out , I wear mine like this . And forgot I must have got that idea from you, thanks !
Awesome 👏
Great tip! I wish I knew two days ago before ordering 1.75" wide velcro straps to help with sloppy spurs...I'll try wrapping the old skinny buckle straps under the spike before swapping to velcro. Maybe I can rig something between the velcro strap and the spike to have my cake and eat it too?
It works fabulous, can't believe i been climbing for 20 yrs and didn't see this as a option, it works 👍👍👍👍🤣
Good, logical information. Then I thought of wearing the strap (lots of force at that point), which was addressed by MF-A.. to file the edges smooth.
Just tried this one this weekend. Strap stayed nice and tight after an hour in the tree. Thanks!
Are those Gecko Aluminum spurs? Thinking about getting some. The ones I currently have kill my shins.
Dude you gotta get the Velcro foot straps. I have the same spurs and when I put them on it changed my life. Love the channel, keep up the great work🤙🏻
I’m changing to those in the next week or two, been meaning to for a while but rarely use spurs. Excited to see how different they are. Thanks for the comment 👍
Even if you don't get the velcro anything is better than those p o s straps that come on geckos I didn't realize how bad they were until I cut through one using this method and had to replace them with some Buckinghams a friend had it was night and day difference
I'll be trying this on a short Cherry tomorrow!
Man, that is such a good tip! Trying to adjust a loose spur in the tree is nearly impossible.
Step 1: use a downward (axe-style) kick (from taekwondo) on something first, to knock the stirrup back in front of your heel.
Step 2: Set your rope good, then spike a trunk to firmly reseat the stirrup into your foot arch, in a position where you can keep that downward pressure while then redoing the strap tightly.
Great tip! Thank you!!
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The old airstreams don’t have the deepest arch to accommodate spurs though, even right out of the box. First I even noticed the spurs come that loose was when I started wearing those boots. Probably my favorite boots though overall. I love the Timber Pros, much better for spikes. They look like they’re designed for them. And feel like it.
Brilliant. Thanks Dan!
Glad you like the method
Good idea for wearing boots without heels. Thanks for the tip.
I will give this a shot. I have worn spurs for over 20 years and it has just been an ongoing problem I live with. One thing I have found helpful is to put on my lower straps first, before I secure the upper straps. I have a problem in which the shank wants to slide backwards at the top and forwards at the bottom, creating a situation where the shank is not aligned with my lower leg. It's about a 25-degree angle. The pressure of that misalignment is felt in my knees a lot. I have always just dealt with it.
Great advice, tnx
Great idea!!!!
Helped me out! I've never taken to wearing "logger" style boots because they bother my knees so this technique really helps.
Awesome 👍
wide velcro straps are the best they take care of that problem. the width also distributes pressure, owner arborsense tree. upstate ny.
I have always had that problem of my spikes working loose to the point where they are hanging of the back of my heel! was always shown to wrap the boot strap around the shank just above the gaff and then sinch it up tight. Will jave to give this ago aswell, i have shorter gaffs so we will see if it works better👍
Will you do a video on how to sharpen your gaffs
I watched this video yesterday, and was able to give it a try that same night. What a difference! I made sure to strap them on tight, but I felt like I had so much more control in the tree! Thanks for putting this out there. I appreciate and look forward to more of your videos.
The leather strap can also be wrapped around the metal bar 1 full turn.
Thats what I do! 👍
Yep. I have been climbing for 35 years....I have used pole spikes all this time. No problem ever.
North Florida trees
This is a great solution. I mostly wear tech boots (not loggers) and the heel is not as pronounced. Even with a wrap around the shaft, they frequently work themselves loose. Can't wait to try this - makes perfect sense.
Thanks for the content.
Cheers
Me too. But I might try this I just think the spur would wear down the strap faster. Sharp right angle edges
@@mattygersh544 You could take a file to round over those right angle edges where the leather will contact it.
I noticed this issue with the leather boot straps on my old spikes but have not had this problem with my new notch geckos that have a Velcro strap with the locking seat belt type clip. I am a novice though so we shall see. Love the videos!
If you look at the lines of force, the way Dan is doing it, pulls it all up, into the bottom of your boot. Yes, that exactly what he said :) Leather stretches so over a day, you get the same loosening. Thanks for sharing; good stuff.
Omy. So my treehogs were fine, came with really wide straps, but they recently broke so I have to grab these Buckingham straps, and since, the spikes keep slipping backwards like you were talking about! Soooo frustrating in tree to smash it back to the bridge, I'm gonna try this next project.
I wrap the leather strap one time around the aluminum part that's around your ankle and then put it through to the correct hole if you needed at. This prevents it from moving and you wear out your leather half as quickly
Yup going to try this, looks awesome
Le us know how you get on with this method
@@ClimbingArborist it was a game changer! I'm using Notch Geckos, so there is no movement anywhere even with low heel boots!
Aaaaand why haven’t I though of doing that? Will have to try it in the new year now 😅
thanks for that top tip 👍 definitely going to give this a go as my spikes did move the over day 😔
Cheers for watching and for the comment bro, I really hope you find this helps the spurs from moving 🤙
I've always taken a wrap around the spur so it doesn't loosen
Thank you for your constant content...i really love all the small tricks...
Thanks for the comment bro, I’m so glad you like the content 🤙
Heels help with keeping spur from moving .
I like it. I never had an issue with my spurs moving until I switched to the "cadillac" shin pads. The extra thickness of the foam on those pads makes the spur want to twist backwards toward the heel. Even wearing boots with a good chunky heal I had issues, especially in sticky sapwood that pulls down on the spur when you pull your foot out. I knew i needed a way to clamp the spur into the heal pocket, and this looks like a great way to do it. Going to try it soon!
Awesome, let me know after a few climbs how you find it. It may feel a little strange at first.
Gracias amigo por compartir tus experiencias. No hablo ingles pero me quedo claro tu video
Any chance you could review Notch Gecko Quick Connect Lower Spur Straps
As no one has a review and noone seems to know if it works or it's just for show
Never had the problem of them getting looser. But I put my strap above the spur and higher on the back of my shoe. Then again I don’t mind the spurs being a bit loose as I don’t tighten the strap that hard in the first place. I did when I was a beginner, now I’m comfortable and don’t care.
I typically wrap the strap around the shaft a complete turn. I’ll try this method: I hate huge logging boots and I hate losing circulation in my feet. Thank you! Be safe everyone. Not worth getting hurt for a dollar. Don’t be afraid to walk away.
Awesome, let me know after a few climbs how you find it. It may feel a little strange at first.
great idea
I once had a pair of boots that went up to just below the knee and had a steel plate on the inside of the leg that were made for tree climbing with spikes, anyone know where I can get a pair these days?
Favorite boots for spur climbing?
I will try it, thanks
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Wich brand is his boots. Thank you
This question is a little off topic, but I was wondering how you remove sap/pitch from your ropes and lanyards? Do you ever run into this issue?
Thanks for all of your videos too. I have picked up a lot of knowledge from you and I really appreciate it.
I don’t know if it’s safe to use on rope, but I use Technu to remove sap in my beard, hands, and cloths. It’s designed for poison oak, but it has many other uses. Works great.
Podrías decir la marca y modelo que estas usando en este video ?
Awesome! Thank you
Thank you, glad you like the video
I used to wrap the strap all the way around the metal. it work too.
Wot size spur do you climb on please
Can you were spurs and foot ascender at the same time?
Do you find that the strap wears faster and needs to be replaced?