Drift VS Grip
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2022
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#InitialD #TougeBattle #Nanamagari #Z33 #Drift #AssettoCorsa - เกม
物理的な比較すると、フツーはグリップの方が速い。ドリフトは路面からトルクが奪われているから、グリップより低い速度になるのは当然なのだ。
が、グリップ万能というのは間違い。グリップを失いトルクをロストするということは、実はある有利な条件を満たしてしまうからだ。
それは、グリップでは「この速度が食いつきの限界」という制限をドリフトは超えた状態でコーナーに突入できる、ということ。つまりオーバースピードでのコーナー突入と解放ラインを作れるのがドリフトの優れた点だ。
なのでドリフトがグリップより速くコーナリングできるコース状況があるというのを知っておいて欲しい。一例としては、単一コーナーではなく『吹っ飛ばされた先にそのまま突入できるコーナーが存在する』こと。単一コーナーではトルクを失っていないグリップの立ち上がりに挽回されてしまうので、結果として遅くなってしまうのだ。
イニDなんかではこの辺りの擬似ホーマン軌道によるドリフト有利の解説がない。小難しくて読者を置いてけぼりにすることは容易に考えられるので、打ち合わせでボツにされるのだろうな。
単一コーナーでも減速領域でオーバースピードを作ることで、速度を落とすグリップより解放コーナーとしてドリフトがより速い速度でクリアして行ける状況もある。
ただしレースマシンではまったく違うことは追記しておく。そもそもレースマシンはタイヤがグリップオンリーの特性であるためドリフト状態はイレギュラーでしかなく、単なるトルクロスでしかない。
おお...
なんかよくわかんねぇけどすげぇ!!
知ってクール
わかりやすい、ありがとう！
サーキットだといろは坂みたいなコーナーはあり得ないけどWRCだと普通にあるよね サーキットだとほぼ通用しないけど公道なら速い場合もあるってイメージ
I have no idea where I I am am I I am not sure sure what you you want
I was like "yeah this looks pretty realistic but if you take a close look at the windshield-" and then i noticed that the water droplets follow the car's inertia. THE WATER DROPLETS.
That's the assetto corsa modding community for you haha
If you pause the game you can even see all droplets floating ik the air... It's insane
@@damianmichalewski6682 Do you know what the mod is?
@@aydindemirci3288 i think it's custom shader patch on max settings
@@aydindemirci3288 the rain mod is developed by some guy on patreon, forgot who tho
this was the first time I was fooled by the graphics of a game, i'm shocked
, seriously I feel like seeing a real realistic 3D render for the first time in my life, the sensation of reality is just shocking
I genuinely was so confused, I couldn’t tell whether it was real or fake
Seeing people say it was before i realized it made me question my existence
Was that fake??
@@gabedaniel9948 yeah, you can tell from the ending of the video, the driver was not real
What really sold it were the sounds of the of the cars combined with how realistic the graphics were. If the sound was poo then it would have taken away the magic but the sounds were incredible.
i asked myself.. damn how'd they get to legally do this on the actual roads of Mt. Haruna.. BUT IT'S ASSETTO AND IT LOOKS GORGEOUS
WAIT ITS NOT REAL???? I GOT BAMBOOZLED SO HARD
This doesn't even look like haruna?
@@peesicle there are few touge passes on real mount haruna. akina pass is one of them, in the video is one of the others i guess
@@makinotori14 oh
@@makinotori14 this is nanamagari, where takumi's 86 and the s15 battled in 5th stage
後半の車内映像の車速で上に上がる水滴と右上のワイパーに拭き取られず残る水滴の表現がここまでリアルに表現されるのが凄い。
The thing about grip versus drift is that grip will always be faster so long as there's traction. In dirt racing and in traction-compromised situations, drifting can be faster, but only if you control the angle and aren't really throwing the back end out. They are completely different styles of driving, where one is optimized to go the fastest in ideal conditions, while the other assumes poor conditions.
Basically if you know you don't have the grip, you can put the car into a four-wheel drift with your car angled towards the corner exit so you regain grip right as you are facing the direction for ideal acceleration out of the corner. The difficult part would be keeping the back from swinging too far where you would have to fishtail/overcorrect at the corner exit. Look at how WRC drivers turn in dirt for a good idea of what I'm talking about.
Drifting is just cooler though
I do this in go-karts
@@GladiarOfDestruction go-karts are a perfect example because they lack grip
slip angle is faster than grip
They r rwd tho. I think the driver in front is either j slow or the car has some other handicap.
Man what the f... On the outside you could tell it was a game(especially that repetitive fake camera wobble as well as flatness of pavement), but the dash view is ridicoulously realistic (I mean, individual droplets being swept by the wipers and those reflections on the dashboard are spot on). Apparently we have actually progressed in realism of videogame graphics since Crysis, but this is one of the quite rare occasions I have to make such a remark.
Yeah the dashboard view is superb
yeah like
CUSTOM SHADER PATCH
ASSETTO CORSA
its all just a mod to the game that had unchanged graphics since 2014... and it so far best racing simulator
The base game looks like shit but with mods it can look like this
If it wasn't for the grass, It could easily look like a real-life footage
Bruh what bout the sound though
"Drift is a technique applicable to a lot of mountain passes, it is a general technique and useable in many different routes. Grip on the other hand is a precise technique that is manifested after practice and practice with full on course knowledge. Both have its pro's and cons. There is no debate on which is better, as it all comes down to the driver."- Sudo Kyoichi, Initial D Final Stage
yeh no , grip is king
@@spikspak2889 are you saying "Yeah, no grip is king" or "Yeah no, grip is king" ?
Drift may be faster but in any endurance race drift would end up losing too much time in the pits changing tires.
@@master_Wizard Depends what you're racing on... rally races are a prime example of where the advantages of drift outweigh the cons
@@master_Wizard Drift is not faster on any kind of road. The only time you want to slide is in dirt. And thats just because traction is hard to find anyway.
コーナーのキャッツアイ踏みながら走ってるの見てると現実では無いと分かっていても
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The fact that this man is drifting enough to get around the corner is respect
Right but he is gonna run outta tires and gasoline far faster than the grip driver and their both handicapped by the rain. If this was dry the outcome would be far more different.
The guy in the back is a better driver. The grip guy is taking a fast line on the first hairpin out of two and the drift guy sets himself up for the second corner and accelerates out much faster.
Asu asu
4sho
the thing is that this is on a touge,on touge roads usually drifting is faster, if you compare it to real tracks like silverstone
Can I just say, the subtle camera shake on the onboard make it look actually real. Great work! And awesome driving!
And for me that camera shake is not subtle and annoys me a lot as I can't take a clear look at car movement.😝 I guess you can not satisfy everyone. 😉
@@LeitoAE I mean if I were trying to focus on their line or driving style it’s annoying as hell.
But that’s exactly was a dash cam would look like in real life and they mastered the effect perfectly!1:00 is what I’m taking about with the vibration
@@LeitoAE saaaameeee, i think it's veeeryy clear
@@ethanbarkerracing2660 ohh yeah thats really good, thought about the first overview shot
I love the shots inside the car, so many small little details that make it so much more rewarding to watch
Good job bro
動画の中で動いてるのを見るとゲーム映像だなってなんとか判別できるけど、サムネだけ見たら完全に実際の写真だよね…すっげえな
I actually thought this was real life, and was super confused about why Assetto Corsa was there in the description, until I saw the low res mountain texture and realized it was assetto corsa. Incredible
Same, I thought this was real until I read the comments lol.
sometimes assetto corsa is mentioned in runs so people dont get caught posting their crimes
The fact this guy can make amracing game look so realistic is shocking
Yay I got 1000 likes
An almost 10 year old game too
Ain’t no way this is a game wtf
@@monstrosityguy5375 ikr I thought itmwas real to
fax bro i thought for sure this was real life
Damn these graphics are on point for an old game
Drift allows higher speed entries, the only thing to worry about is the exit where grip usually catches up, but all you need to do with that is just learn where you and your cars limits are and drive on those limits 24/7, which will make you much faster
Also to everyone;
It’s helpful to remember that some situations/surfaces are just too sticky for this, like in a hot summer day, or even when using slicks, or go karting for instance. You need to be mindful of how much your tires are sticking to the road. If it’s easier to get the slip, go for it. If you feel like you’re losing too much time trying, don’t do it. Knowing when and where is key.
Unsure if anyone noticed but even the water gathering near the body of the wiper moves in the correct g force direction - a right turn sends the formed water to the left and vice versa, such amazing graphics and physics.
I love how he had the two styles finish side by side to remind us that both are ok! Great video! I also didn't know about this track mod so thanks for that too!
Yep power sliding on a tight turn like this would be advantageous, this video shows the benefit of both
Yah ....no the red car grip car misses about every apex by half a lane.
I haven't personally driven that car mod but I can imagine that it is heavy. It probably was taking a later apex to have a higher exit speed.
@@Jdmitchell308 Its probably off on the AI spline.
@@Autowill probably and it sucks
窓についた水滴の動きがリアルすぎ
I've been a editor for 10+ yrs and it took me a good minute to realize this was a render or a game with a shade mod... Wow good camera and driving it all looks soooo real. Even the suspension and the water droplets move with the inertia wow
it literally took me almost a minute looking at one frame of the video to realise this is a damn game like for a game almost 10 years old this is just so realistic. i mean the droplets on the windshield follow the inertia of the car and the graphics and camera effects make this video look like a real life event not to mention on the part where it switches to the passenger side view of the chaser it just looks like a race from real life
The graphics are insane! I wouldn't be able to tell if this was real or not if I didn't know it was asetto corsa
just the foliage and background trees and grass looks crap but thats just the map
Ya man, go outside, dig some hole, break some glass, burn some grass
I play AC and got fooled by thumbnail, I thought it was real
THERE'RE ,REAL,BUT.....JUST REAL IN VIDEO GAMES
Me too
すごいとしか言いようがない！
もう実写ですよこれ笑
Man it's ALWAYS satisfying to watch a grip vs. drift chase, no matter who leads there's something special about taking a corner with two different styles and staying in tandem.
The sound track is absolutely perfect as well🎶
damn, wouldn't be surprised if youre PC rig is connected to an actual performance intercooler for a car with the way these graphics look, also driving style is spot on as always
Lmaooo he’s got that mishimoto intercooler running the rig for sure
@@KingENDLESS lmao greddy turbos powering the gpu
@@shanealvarez2279 hold up, where are the exhaust gases coming from to power the turbo? Is he using a turbo powered engine to power his PC?
ワイパーで拭き取られる雨水の表現がもはや異次元
リアルと大差ないじゃん…
The water on the windshield is just amazing it's incredible how real it is!!
HOLY ****, the lighting and detail. Even though I know in my head its a game I am still constantly getting fooled watching the cockpit view
This to me is the ultimate form of driving not that flashy stuff at d1gp but the low angle inside turn drifting that gets you around the turn faster. I cannot wait to finally get back out there once again
Especially the cockpit view looks freaking realistic. Awesome
I swear, the inside camera was the most realistic (game) car video I have ever seen. Good job!
Damnnnnn, I cant imagine how good this would feel in vr lmao, nice vid, very realistic
Literally the only thing that made me realize this was a game and not really life was when the car ran into the curb at the end and bounced. Aside from that, I'm still amazed. Keep up the vids! This is amazing
映像、タイトル、音楽すべてが最高にマッチしてる
後追いの車が「魅せるドリフト」でグリップに付いて行ってるのがすごい！
・・・ってこれ実写じゃないのかよ！！綺麗すぎるやろｗ
I actually thought this was real until the end, the lighting, reflections, and camera look so real. Great work!
Lmao i changed my mind like 3 times throughout the video om whether it was real or a game
Your videos always look amazing, especially with the wobbly / handheld camera movement. But this one took me a bit of guard. It took me legit like 5-10 sec to realise that this isn't real life and even afterwards I had moments where i had to lock twice 👍
this genuinely put a smile on my face
Love to see this vid at 1 mil views , i remember it being at a ten few thousand views when I watched it , good vid man🔥🔥
Literally thought thumbnail was real and got confused by that veg has uploaded some real life footage😂
Either ways this looks sick!
Me too lmfao
I was constantly in denial the whole time asking myself is this real or not?? 🤣 Truly insane, even the outside shots at first glance looked convincing, had to read the description
凄い
今はこんなにもリアルなゲームあるんだぁ！
フロントガラスの雨もめっちゃリアル
This one flew right over my head. Way too realistic. I thought it was real the first time i watched it, especially due to the raindrops on the windshield that moved from the wipers.
If the external cameras were steady, I would have thought the clip was real life. All modern day cameras have really good video stability, no need to add artificial ones. The onboard camera was on point.
Holy s*** that's some of the most realistic footage I've ever seen, period. Realising that technology now can make it look so real makes me wonder what's next !
Imagine this+VR googles + full motion feedback rig
The realism is amazing, can easily be fooled by it. Great video man
沒想到現在動畫可以這麼厲害，真的就差一點就跟真的一樣了 😂😂
Crazy how real this looks. Well done. Love the music too
Really love the camera work. I can watch it all day.
雨粒の描写が凄すぎる。感動しました
Need to add some surface imperfections.
love the rain, so photoreal, beautiful animation ♥️
実写だと思ってた…色々凄すぎ…
サムネ実写かと思ったしフロントガラスの水滴の動きとかまんまで凄すぎる
That looks incredible. Excellent video 😃👌
看到這點閱數，感謝YT演算法終於算對了，做出這麼棒的模擬賽車畫面youtuber不能只有我知道
もう実写なのかグラフィックなのか見分けつかん……
恐ろしいリアルで忠実な再現技術……
雑草や雑木に多様性が足りないところが課題で、まさに少し『雑』と感じます
@@kenshinikuyo 車が走ってる動画で自然を観察する必要って…
@@ge_ri.un_ko
バーチャルとリアルの境目の話でした
背景がリアルになるからこそ更に現実感高まるもんでしょう。まぁこの動画じゃ違和感無い背景だからリアルにも十分感じるけど
ワイパーの水滴がやばい
2 things I was the completely amazed about. How they both handled the cars and how realistic the games looks. Great video
В смысле игры? Это была игра? Я был уверен, что смотрю реальную съёмку, ещё подумал, как жаль красную машину на последних секундах видео... колеса, обвес...
Невероятно!
The fastest cars will fall somewhere in between, where after initialization, all four tires point almost perfectly straight in relation to the vehicle as it perfectly pitches itself around the corner on the very hairy edge of drift and grip. We in the racing scene like to call this phenomenon "Drip"
The shaders looks so good omg. I legit thought this was real life when I clicked on the video
This is basically
"Proper Hill-Climb vs Initial-D HillClimb"
One is the usual "Slow in, fast out"
Other is "Cheat the turn. Embrace momentum."
The thing about drifting is that, if you get it right most of the time, clocking a faster time than grip comes along with it as well.
Only other thing about grip is that, if you do it right, you’ll clear the turn ALL of the time. Just most of the time, you might be a tad slower than the best of drifting lines as a tradeoff.
@@thevegastan The thing with grip is that you'll be able to use the tire's grip potential at it's fullest, and while drifting you're wasting it and leaving cornering potential on the table, which means that the theoretical fastest line will always be slower while drifting.
@@istachi my point better put. But hey, in reality, humans make micro errors at the extreme end of situations, so both situations sort of swap between each other in occurrences I guess.
@@thevegastan Indeed
I wish Twitter was like this. No violent reaction just two people hanging out and agreeing with each other
Excellent video!
I guess what's left in the AC visual upgrades is foliage quality: grass, trees, etc. etc. The game looks stunning in pretty much anything else now. Not sure about track's detail meshes and stuff, but if you ask me it's the foliage that sticks out the most, simply because trees and other greenery objects take more space compared to smaller stationary track detail meshes.
Saw the thumbnail and thought this was real cars for a minute. Well done, great runs!
bro these reflections looks amazing!
That grafics are the best!!!! I thought it was a real life video.
As always, u keep surprising me , continue like this bro 👌😍🤩
It has been 7 years or so, but the inside view in Assetto Corsa amazes me to this day ^^!
Damn this looks so real. Games are going to get insane in the next couple years
They're already like this on PC.
That curb hop at the very end 🤣😂😭👌
ドリフトで勝つのはやはりロマンがある
Wow!!!!!!!!!! Amazing ,Wonderful, Elegant, Graceful. I don’t know which word that I should say. But this is a masterpiece work of driver who master car control!!!! Thank you so much for doing these car control arts.
In my opinion drift and grip have different benefits for racing. Drifting is better for turning your car front part or car angle to accelerate out. But griping is better for carrying speed in the same line with drift. And because in Touge there are many variety of corner from very low speed tight corner which has only one lane and high speed wide corner which has 3 lanes. So good Touge drivers have to manage drift and grip to do the best time.
Thus is beautiful man... well done.
the rain on the windshield is incredibly done
Sick I was amazed by how good this looked and yah I was fooled by how real this looked
Still can't imagine how you pull it of with just a RX580😅 Legend at optimizing AC😆
agreed
Howwww my gtx 1060 is literally choking smoke on ac for some reason with mods
RX580 could do this?
If you have a pretty good cpu, it does help too. I was told a higher single core performance helps ac more
So glad I found this channel
Damm that water on the window 👌💯🔥
Rain is sick! These 350Zs' are sick too! They sounds extremly beautiful man!
yeah the VQ symphony 😌
@@arandomguy5886 the best beatiful engine sound for Zs' I think
Графика ну оооочень превосходная! Мне даже иногда приходилось перематывать видео и задумываться "Стоп, мне показалось или капли воды на стекле движутся по инерции?" Замечательно чувак!
holy shit i really really thought this was a real video... im amazed by how real this looks. Fing GG to the guy who made this
The PowerHouse Amuse Superleggera! What a dream car!
Beautiful, both cars and the game's graphics.
Gordon Freeman. I found you at last. What happened to Half-Life 3?
Damn, this looks incredibly real!
Welp, the blurring of the lines from reality and video games just began here lol
Holy shit. I can’t believe how real this looks. Totally stunning
this gotta be the most realistic unreal thing ive seen in my life
my opinion on drift vs grip:
on a perfectly paved race track on good conditions, grip will always be faster than drift unless we're talking about extremely tight hairpin turns
in this video, because of the rain,trying to maintain grip is more difficult than just letting the car slide and controlling the oversteer , so the grip driver is more careful, he's purposely leaving a margin of error and ends up being slow enough for the drift driver to keep up
what makes drift driving slower is that it's main benefit is faster corner entry, but grip has the better exit, the exit is usually more important, you'll see the drift z get bumper to bumper with the grip z but by the exit the grip z has created a gap
the other problem with drifting is tire wear, on a long enough track continuously drifting with eat away at your tires
So true, but in the end I think in overall, grip would be the best case scenario in a general question of "grip Vs drift" as most racing disciplines nowadays are more towards grip for obvious reasons
But then that's where rally comes in, where drifting and powerslides are highly utilised around corners (when necessary) and carrying speed and momentum throughout the course is important.
In all honesty, I think of it as;
drifting=cornering with mastery
grip=cornering with efficiency
But idk that's also just how I feel about it, I'm far from being a professional racing driver but all I can say is, drifting is way more fun tho lol
Basically on a pavement grip, on dirt tracks drift
tbh should use a mix of both , its called slip angle
@@carbonationality Or trail braking
Unless youre Keiichi Tsuchiya, its better to stick with grip than drift in a race.
I love how realistic this is
tf?? what is it then??
@@apoorvsinghsamant6939 Idk
前面的鏡頭就像在現場蹲點看一樣
臨場感好棒
what's w/ d stupid music??
@@cm9660 what??
Wow, that rain mod on the windshield is fkn incredible
THE GRAPHICS ARE SO REALISTIC especially at this moment 0:54
Dope work graphics are amazing!
In conclusion: the red car needs to learn how to approach and exit a corner. All jokes aside this was a very enjoyable watch. Keep it up!
最近のグラフィックすげーな！思わず安全運転してしまいそうだわ！
The passenger side camera footage looks amazing, just like real life!
リアルすぎて現実と勘違いしてガチで注意してる人がコメント欄でちらほらいて笑ってしまった
画質下げたら
車内からの映像がまんま現実みたいになった
固定の人も言ってる通り、たしかにグリップのほうが大体速い。
けど緩いコーナーをグリップじゃありえない限界ぎりぎりの速度で抜けてくの楽しいよね
Such an incredible job. Please get this released in a playable form.
Thought this was real for a moment... I love it 😂
Nice graphic, a pair of not-too-nice cars, great driving, nice AC mods showcased in this video. Keep up the good work.
You just know the drift guy is having way more fun
最後の縁石乗り上げるまでどちらか分からんかった。すんごいリアルに出来てる