The Doors: The Disastrous Tour With The Cult's Ian Astbury (Doors Of the 21st Century Tour)
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Today we take a look at the Doors Of the 21st Century Tour with Ian Astbury which became a legal landmine for the group.
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Ian Astbury would discover the Doors at age 10 and the Danny Sugarman book about the band titled No One Here Gets Out Here Alive and it would be a sort of bible for him. He would reveal in a 2003 interview "I probably first heard them when I was nine or 10, on my parents' transistor radio," "At the time I loved David Bowie and T. Rex. But I was drawn to The Doors - they were so different, so much darker."
Astbury was such a fan of the Doors he almost got cast in Oliver Stone’s biopic about the doors in 1989 but the role went to Val Kilmer. That close call though got astbury on the radar of the surviving doors members of the band.
By the mid to late 90’s Astbury's world fell apart. The Cult had taken a hiatus as tensions with guitarist Billy Duffy reached new heights following the release of their commercially disappointing self titled album in 1994. On top of that his marriage at the time crumbled and he started abusing alcohol and was still reeling from a 61 million lawsuit brought by the family of a young American Indian boy who claimed his image had been used on an album cover of The Cult’s 1991 record Ceremony without permission. Side note I also did a video on that lawsuit and album. The Links are down below
Astbury would find “sanctuary in a "spiritual trip" to Tibet and a trip to the island of Cuba. When he returned home he left his wife and went into therapy. He would reveal. "I made big breakthroughs in therapy in 1998," "That was my big clear-out year." he’d remember
The following year Astbury’s involvement with the surviving members of the Doors got started as he joined The Doors guitarist Robby Krieger during one of his solo gigs.
The Doors surviving members would reunite in 2000 to perform on the VH1's Storytellers TV Show. For the live performance, the band was joined by Angelo Barbera and numerous guest vocalists, including Ian Astbury Scott Weiland, Scott Stapp, Perry Farrell, Pat Monahan and Travis Meeks.
By 2002 the Doors were ready to hit the road with Astbury fronting the band. The reunited lineup plus Astbury would call themselves The Doors Of the 21st century. Surviving drummer John Densmore wasn’t able to be part of a reunion as his bandmates claimed he was suffering from a hearing condition known as tinnitus and would be replaced by the Police’s drummer Stewart Copeland. But Densmore contended by the time the tour started he had recovered fully and that he was fired by the band after reading an article in billboard magazine saying
And Copeland would be forced to withdraw from touring after he broke his arm following a biking accident. He would be replaced by Ty Dennis who played in Krieger’s solo band.
Interestingly, Astbury wasn't the band’s first choice to replace Jim Morrison on stage. Following his passing, the surviving members had talks with Joe Cocker and Audience singer Howard Werth, but neither came to fruition. And The Doors would play together again in 1993 at their induction into the rock and roll hall of fame, with Pearl Jam singer Eddie Vedder fronting the band
As the Doors of the 21st Century hit the road, they were slapped with lawsuit after lawsuit.
In April of 2003 it was reported that Jim Morrison’s parents had filed a lawsuit against the surviving members of the Doors and even Ian Astbury for misappropriating the band’s name claiming it isn’t the doors without their son. Also involved in the lawsuit were the parents of morrison’s girlfriend, Pamela Courson, who claimed she owned half of Morrison’s share in The Doors. To make matters worse in 2003 the band was hit with a lawsuit by original drummer John Densmore -Densmore’s suit, which seeked unspecified damages, claims that written and oral agreements mandate that the Doors name and logo can be used only by the original band members and that “Doors of the 21st Century” and the Doors logo for the Astbury collaboration was a violation of their band’s agreement.
And The lawsuits didn’t end there as drummer Stewart Copeland filed his own lawsuit as well claiming he was dismissed without reason and not paid money owed to him, which amounted to about a million dollars.x. Copeland’s lawsuit was settled out of court in 2003.
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Could you do a video explaining why The Doors didn’t do Woodstock, someone said they didn’t do it because they didn’t like playing outdoor gigs but in 1970 they played Isle of Wight which is, last time I checked, an outdoor gig
Did you ever do a video about the Judgement Night soundtrack? Every song was a collaboration between a rock group and a rap group. It was basically the flashpoint for NuMetal.
There is reportedly a stash of songs done with the four original members of Van Halen from studio time about 20 years ago. Never released, but rumored to be pretty good. Of course, the kings of Howdy Doody Mountain (Ed and Al) buried them. This would be cool to know more about.
I attended several of these shows and every one was FREAKIN’ AWESOME!! The crowds were really into it and Ian was great. Anyone who says otherwise probably wasn’t there.
I was fortunate to catch one of these shows and was BLOWN away with Astbury's performance!
I agree and have the double cd that they sold THAT NIGHT of the show to prove it. We met Ian afterwards by chance in a hallway of the casino (it was his birthday) and he was so humble and gracious. I asked him about Billy Duffy, and he said "I never talk to him anymore" with a sad look. A year later (or two?) BOOM The Cult are back. The Doors show was wicked awesome, Robbie was playing great, so was Ray, Ian sounded fantastic, and the riddim section was tight (they added a bass) there were great videos and lighting, EVERYTHING about that show was great (2004/ 2005?) Any one can have an opinion. Mine is made from experience.
This channel has it in for Ian. If the guy who does these videos had a brain he’d be dangerous.
@@siouxsansue7690 "Ian had always respected American Indians" 😆 what a weird comment
@@johnnyprovo988 imagine if you're what inspired Ian to contact Duffy! You never know and your could be responsible for the return of the cult!
Ian Astbury did an amazing job as the Doors singer. Perfect fit.
Actually Pamela Courson’s family getting ANY royalties or say in any Doors matters is the biggest shame.....
Totally
Appalling , isn’t it
More so given the fact that she introduced him to Jean De Breteuil and that she totally knew how he died and it was not in the apartment bathtub but in a pub bathroom...
I would say his parents are the biggest shame since Jim was astranged from them.
Gross. What a bunch of vultures. People can be so selfish and greedy.
A deals a deal..it was settled early on the originals would all have to agree...which one did not. Fair play.
I don't mind the Drummer suing, but the girlfriends parents and Morrison's parents was sad...
Morrison, Kreiger, Densmore , and Manzarek made more than a deal or a contract...It was a promise and oath between young friends who would come together and unite into one of the biggest bands in the world. Jim’s dad never believed in - and his music and poetry - until when he was close to his death from this world (not sure what Jim’s mother thought about Jim?). Pam’s family……well…who knows? Money was being thrown all around from the band to extended family. Jim’s image was seemingly whored out as a means of helping advertise. The Doors were over by 1972 Anyhoo. And now, the Doors are closed.
On the outside sure but if you were Jim Morrison family how would you feel . like it of not Jim's likeness has a dollar value ...But yes it Sucks
All this legal battles from the hippie generation.
So much for peace and love ..
None of them were hippies tho so your point is irrelevant. I get what you're trying to say but still irrelevant..
Lol !!!
@@flight4203 Even worse, the point isn't even relevant because it wasn't the hippie generation who did it at all- the parents were the generation _before_ the hippies. Blaming the hippies would be like blaming the millennials for what generation _x_ is doing.
Baby, if you haven't figured out that democrats are the worst hypocrites in the US, there's just no hope for you!
@@TheIndependentLens exactly!
I saw this tour. It was absolutely fabulous and right on the mark. So glad I got to see it
What a joke. The original members had to pay the parents of a deceased member's deceased girlfriend because they used their own music and logo. What leeches
@Dowhat Iwant Im sure they never signed a deal to leave Jim's girlfriend a say, let alone her parents.
Morrisson named her (Pamela Courson) as his heir in his will, and legal executor of his estate. When she died, that executorship passed to her heirs, which were her parents. Morrisson's parents sued for years for control of their son's estate, and finally a judge granted them 50% executive control shared with the Coursons.
So that means that The Doors contracts, which were drawn up as a four way 25% unanimous democratic control, now had to unanimously be agreed upon by all parties: the three surviving members plus the Morrissons and the Coursons. Every business deal, from licensing to performing to t-shirt sales, had to be voted on by seven parties, and one dissenting vote construed a unanimous veto.
It's crazy, for sure, but it's really no more bizarre than any other band contract involving a dead member and his/her estate or heirs. Every business decision regarding the Beatles has to meet Yoko Ono's approval, and Nirvana can't release anything that Courtney doesn't approve. She tried to sue Dave, Pat and Krist for performing together with Paul McCartney, even though they never used the name Nirvana. She felt that she owned their right to collectively make music together, and the sad thing is that in California, she may have had legal grounds to act on that assumption.
@@RockandrollNegro that's a very well thought out reply and it looks like you did your homework. I was not aware of that arrangement. It's still nuts to me but if he left her the estate and the band didnt consider the fact that only members of the band should maintain control, then that seems legally correct. Cheers
@@RockandrollNegro That was a clear description of the legal terms they agreed to. Thank you!
@@rticle15 How about when John Fogerty getting sued for copying his own music? This is just as nuts.
I saw the Doors with Ian at the Waikiki Shell in about 2005. Ian did it justice, incredible show. Too bad about all the attorneys.
Absolutely! Was great show! I saw in new york at jones beach. Ian was great!
Yes I saw them in SF in 2005 and it was as close to seeing The Doors with Morrison as possible,Ian was excellent ,spot on
There's no way this nonsense was any good. No way
When art and commerce collide, what a mess. Jim’s father finally realized what his son accomplished after he died, when the money kept coming in.
Totally 💯
...As Jim said in Recordings and Writings many times, ‘Money Beats Soul’ EveryTime. -Jim’s Parents Probably has this Tattooed
He finally realized how much of an impact his son made on the world and it still shocks him because he still thinks his own son can't sing, but hey at least I'm getting a his money
@@flight4203 in subsequent interviews he praised his son‘a talent. But he was a hard ass and totally dissed Morrison’s talent while Jim was alive.
You mean after admiral Morrison executed the Tonkin gulf incident and basically sauntered in the draft to kick off the Vietnam war
The tours were class and Ian was perfect to play with Ray & Robbie.
I saw the doors with Ian astbury 3 times. I really enjoyed the shows!
Ian Astbury is one of the best Rock vocalists of all time.
Jim Morrison is the best rock vocalist of all time.
@@stpeterson7644 sorry. It’s Freddie. Everyone else is about a mile behind and then the rest of the list starts. Sure Jim and ian is next
@@stpeterson7644 I agree with you! Jim Morrison was the greatest by far!
@@fredwinslow744 😆
Lol! That’s ridiculous
There are some similarities between Astbury and Morrison but also Vin Diesel and Homer Simpson
Have Vin and Homer ever been seen together? Hmmmmm??
@@jimschleich8753 yes. The movie " The Fat and The Furious"
If you havent seen his recorded shows, you should; they were really great.
Morrison had better teeth though.
@@BTsMusicChannel Need a bigger boat!
I attended the show in Zurich and I found it amazing. Astbury did not just do a simple cover of the songs but made them sound different according to his unique style which gave the whole show a vibe of respect to Jim Morrison as he just didn't try to copy it. It was an amazing show and too bad all these people had to go through this legal mess to bring the Doors music to a whole new generation.
Being such a mega fan of The Doors for decades, I jumped at seeing D21C at Sunfest in West Palm Beach. It was a great show. Ian clearly loved and respected the material. It's a shame business entanglements complicate just playing live shows. Toto is in the same boat.
Yeah i was there too. It was amazing.
I thought Astbury sounded great. It is a shame how it all went down the drain, indeed.
Great cover band/Tribute act
My brother actually worked with the band on this tour. He realized a lifelong dream by jamming with Ray and Robbie. The show I got to see was great. Stewart Copeland brought such an energy to the performance. It did have that "tribute band with the original members" vibe, but the spirit of Jim was there. It was good for a while there.
Oh mannnn I am so jealous. Ray is and was my hero. I never got to meet him, but back in 2000 I got to talk to him on a radio show. I was 16 and totally star struck, but I managed to thank him for getting me into Muddy Waters.
That’s so awesome. I would’ve been bothering my bro like “can I come to work with you one day?” Ya know take ya brother to work day? Lol
@@natalielastname1117 Cool. Yea Ray seemed like such a pleasant enthusiastic man. There’s a vid on here I think it’s called “Ray manzerak in Venice beach” it rules. I watch it still time to time he describes his memories so well.
That's really cool. Lucky guy.
@@billyshead1339 Yes Ray could talk about paint drying and make it interesting.
They should have named the band The Revolving Doors.
Paul AKA Pablo ...perhaps...”the locked doors”
Ha ha... now THAT'S funny.
Beautiful
@@spikesification Nice
Sliding doors?
i seen d21c twice once in sioux city ia and las vegas nv both times i jumped on stage with them the shows were beyond mind blowing i’m only 48 years old this was my only chance to see any version of the doors.. i’m so glad i got to experience it killer killer shows ..
i’ve seen robby solo also in the early 90’s
It sucks that Ray is gone, Robby still tours. I saw him a few years ago. John makes guest appearances with Robby every now and then.
@@JennaLeigh it was definitely worth going and I'm really glad I went to see them in London. Knew I would of regretted it if hadn't.
@@JennaLeigh saw em in march of 2003 & it was about as close as you could get to taking a time machine.Glad they gave the public what they wanted, briefly. Even played a couple of new 1s for an up coming doors album.
@@JennaLeigh from what i also read, things finally got settled & they were gonna finish the album in 2013 with singer David Brock who really sounded like Morrison but Ray........? You know the rest. 😢
Much respect to John Densmore for keeping Light my Fire out of the Cadillac commercial.
You mean Jim keeping it out of a Buick commercial.
Jim Morrison refused Buick and years later Densmore refused Cadillacs offer.
We are left to wonder whether the bond they forged truly is ... stronger than dirt.
Seems like that’s why he was outed but yea good on him , idk tho it’s like yea protect the legacy but that’s not gonna pay the bills
Maybe if they took the deal they wouldn’t of had to go on tour with Ian asbury densmore kind of starts to sound like a dick when you think about it
@@alfloxxddy i used to think so. John I believe was trying to keep them honest and not sell out for money and commercialism. They were multimillionaires so didn't really need the money.
The book is called " no one here gets out alive ".
You got the words mixed up buddy.
Read that book about 40 years ago. Great book.
@@peach495
Same. It's a classic. Shaped my teens.
Or as Ray called it “Nothing Here But Lies”
He also called him Ian Assberry.
@@duderama6750 yes,but is not only in this video,it is in all his videos about The Cult. Really annoying.
Talk about how Billy Duffy ditched his first band with Morrissey to form the Cult and how he help Morrissey form the Smiths with Johnny Marr after that... now that’s a true rock n roll legend there
He many have interacted with Marr and Morrissey separately, but it wasn’t to form the smiths. He played with Morrissey in The Nosebleeds.
Jett Crash when Billy left he told Marr to call Morrissey to form a band, without Billy, the Smiths would have never existed
He left the Nosebleeds way before forming the Death Cult with Ian. You’re thinking of Theatre of Hate.
themstem69 thanks for the precision ! That’s why he as to make a video about this 😉
It was Billy who taught Jhonny to play guitar,but Billy is a very humble guy,everytime he was asked about that is answer was always the same: no,it was not like that we were friends and i was playing guitar...
I saw them at Wembley Arena, and they were brilliant. To have the opportunity to even see part of the band was an honour and completely disrespectful to say otherwise
I seen the 21st century doors at the s.e.c.c. In Glasgow.What a night they rocked the big red shed.
I was there too and it was brilliant
Should go by The Defendants.
Haha good one!
@@LRS905 😄
Or the Doors to the Civil Court room
Robby Krieger and Ray Manzarek actually thought Joe Cocker would be a good choice to front the band and sing songs by The Doors???
They DID do a lot of drugs in the ‘60s...
@@MrJett1971 Didn't they also get Iggy pop? Any1 know more on that story?
@@bobbystereo936 I believe that wasnt long after Morrison Died. They asked but Iggy didnt want to do it
@@drmusic3641 actually no. Ray made a live band with Iggy 1973 but Iggy failed to appear to the shows too many times. So they split. Ray made Nite City with other guys later. So the Doors feat Iggy myth started
@@marguskiis7711 Oh! Okay. Thanks 4the info.
I saw the tour when they did four shows in Boston. It was awesome. They did everything. Ray and Robbie were spectacular.
My wife and I saw this show in Denver when we were first dating. It was fantastic. Ian literally seemed to be channeling Jim. Lightening was crackling across the foothills during the intro to Riders on the storm. It was magical & still our favorite show we've seen together.
Sounds epic!
Red Rocks or Fiddlers Green?
@@sgt.thundercok4704 neither. The amphitheater next to the Pepsi center.
@@chrisbenson3322 I wish I had caught it.
@@chrisbenson3322 I google mapped that area and I could not find an amphitheater. Is it still there? I live in the area so I'm curious about a venue I didn't know existed.
I saw the Doors with Ian live and It was a great show. I wish they could have continued. I am a fan of the Doors and the Cult.
Was my first concert.
I had more problem with the drummer who thought he’d signed up for Motorhead. No subtlety at all - wish Stuart Copland had done it.
I saw them in Birmingham I think it was ☺
I saw d21c several time it was awesome! Huge cult fan here too. This video is bullshit
I like the Cult and the Doors too. I like Ian singing Doors songs.
Dude, that was superb.
This 69yo is impressed with the accuracy and depth of your research.
Thank you from a Morrison & Doors fan.
Hey man did you ever get to see him? I was born in 81, I will always love the Doors.
Actually Ian and Doors was a fantastic combination. Ian is the man ! Astbury should have been the star of the biopic.
Ian Astbury is one of the best singers in rock history
Don't you think that title should go to someone who didn't regularly hit bum notes?
@@liborsionko he's been great every time I've seen The Cult. Including several times in the past few years
Dreaming he was in Zeppelin!!!!!
That would be a definite no.
He’s a lingering fart that Jim let out in a phone booth in 1968
Jim’s parents suing on his behalf is so wrong in so many ways.
And the parents of his deceased wife! Oh god, I'm sure Jim would be so proud.
Ah...Legally It is Money$ 💰 .
Grifting toerags
@@sorearm SC Reviews fan?
I liked the The Doors of the 21st Century. Ian did a good job. How can any one sue Ray Manzerik. He is The Doors. Even Morrison said so.
I saw THE DOORS OF THE 21ST CENTURY in Manchester in 2004 with Ian Astbury singing. It was a great gig and Ray Manzarek was amazing on his organ live. The only "disaster" on stage was that they never played THE END. Still got my bootleg T-shirt bought outside. It may have only been half of THE DOORS but they still ROCKED.
I was there too :)
Me too , 1 off the bucket list
There's a reason Jim was never fully replaced. He was a drunken fool sometimes, but he owned the stage like no one has since.
So true! He was one of a kind and will never be forgotten!
@@damianb2374 Gotta add Nivek Ogre and Kraftwerk.
Mr B the gentleman rhymer has as much stage presence as Morrison had.
@@mnbv990 no I disagree Jim was much better .I've barley heard of him Jim's been gone for nearly 50 years and is still talked about everywhere .the only reference to him is he's trying to impersonate Jim.Jim didn't impersonate anyone he was an original.
@Mr. snickett and with out Jim They wouldn't have made it either it took all 4 .if you will notice they never did much after Jim was gone .they made an album but it didn't go anywhere .and relived their glory days and talked about Jim and played the music they made with him.
I loved this tour. Everyone there had a great time. You are a drama queen.
I remember doors of the 21st century in the late 90s and early 2000s I thought it was a good rendition of the original band but it seems like greed just killed it
Saw doors 21st century at Mohegan sun ct. Must have been 2002. Great show. They sounded awesome
Ian is a great band lead and oh that voice!
While I can sort of understand Jim's parents suing, I don't get how on earth the parents of Jim's gf, who died in 1974, had grounds to sue. That makes no sense.
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Didn't the other members badmouth publicly and media? I thought they (or one of them) accused her of 1st degree murder with profit as motive. And in reality she was severely depressed,broken person. So yeah I'm not surprised if that's the case it wouldn't take much to file suit just cuz. Morrison lasted about 15 minutes after he got famous. Its obvious he was done-that Miami thing is sad.
@@yikeskat8421 5 years isn’t 25 minutes. If they produced one album I might agree with you. They put out 6 albums and a live album that all went at least gold. The don’t know of any band that has matched that except for The Beatles and maybe Led Zeppelin. But I’m not even sure about that. No American band did that. The fact that we still listen to them and talk about them 50 years later proves they were more than just some flash in the pan band!
@@robert.m4676 Kinda like Guns and Roses. You can't deny Morrison had lost it hard. It was sad.
Because vagina.
Didn't know much about this but surprised it was so bad. Saw The Cult in 1990 I believe and it was awesome! Openers were Dangerous Toys and Bonham.
Hellz Yeah!! The minister was there! Memphis 1990! Still have the T-Shirt! ROCKIN 🎸
@@ministerofdarkness Orlando Arena for me
Holy crap that is a very "transitional from 80s to 90s" lineup there.
Saw them on that same tour. Fairgrounds Pavilion, Tulsa, OK. Except Dangerous Toys wasn't with them in Tulsa. It was Tora Tora.
Yes, was at the Sacramento CA show.
I once went to see the Cult an apparently the Doors were supposed to be the opening act, but they didn't show. It said on the ticket, "Doors open at 8"
I saw a few shows with Ian and he was great. If you closed your eyes, you really felt like you were at a real Doors concert.
Yeah it should have been about recreating a mood for the fans and Ian does have a great voice. The Tea Party in Canada probably owes The Doors some credit for popularity since Jeff was reminiscent of Jim.
Totally agree. Saw the show - total goosebumps throughout. Thought he did an incredible job.
Jim and Ian have always reminded me of each other in their looks and style.
60 Million for using your image? I'd wanna pay THEM to be on their cover. :)
Greed greed greed....
The 60 million dollar figure would be set by lawyers and would not be anywhere near the expected pay out. That is fine if you'd pay them to be on their cover, but I'd want say in it or money if it was me.
Shit yourself and lie in a Paris Gutter and you got a shot at the vynil re re issue. That will be 1000000000000000 francs Monsiuer
Disaster ? It was a triumph ! Jim’s shoes are hard to fill but Astbury nailed it .
Yes Allen he did ..years later I realized who the singer was...my show was in A.C. New Jersey...great!!
Yes absolutely a great concert experience. There was no need to use Disaster in the title.
The tour made $8 million. I would love to experience such a disaster
I went to see them at Wembley Arena in London. It was a really good night and they sounded great. Obviously it never came close to what seeing the original lineup would of been like but as that wasn't possible. The 21st Century Doors was the next best thing.
'dont know if he can actually Sing ... but *Val Kilmer* sure LOOKED the part
He definitely can't sing now. He's got a hole in his neck.
Yes. He can sing. Or, well, he could. He did his own singing playing an Elvis-like rock star in Top Secret! and he did his own vocals in The Doors as well. He put his all into that role.
@@moonlily1 He even played Elvis in True Romance, playing Christian Slater's mentor.
He could sing the part back then. Val was in a Doors tribute band. It's a big part if why he got the movie role.
If I remember correctly, Jason Patric was also considered for the lead, and I believe resembled Morrison more than Val.
I saw them live in Buenos Aires, and it was epic. Even band members could not believe their eyes of what was going on that night. One of my longtime favourite shows of all time.
Se armó un tremendo quilombo, no?
@@davidleewrath6919 si, fue increíble. La gente de las populares se mandó al campo, que era con butacas. Hicieron una pira con las sillas y bailaban en círculos. Demencial.
I thought it was fantastic and Astbury was amazing in evoking Jim Morrison into the post modern landscape. No one else could or even came close to filling those leather pants
Travis Meeks and Scott Weiland were really good on the VH1 thing
@occupyanewparadigm Scott was very erratic due to his drug problems ,Eddie was a coward always hiding of the killing floor of playing with The Doors. Did it one time and ran away,but was not only him...
I got to see them in Tampa and they even let us come up on stage. Everyone was having a blast but a extra guitar player, not Robbie Krieger, for some reason hit a fan with his guitar. They got sued over that also. Poor Ray and Robbie just wanted to jam.
There’s something about The Doors and Florida in general. It seems like bad shit happens when they play there. 🤷♂️
Ian was a GREAT addition to the Doors !!! People are too narrow minded to understand or hear it
I seen it in 2005! Ive seen a lot of bad ass concerts and nothing compared! This was my favorite concert ever attended! Im only sad that we will never see them again
but... but... its still all about the music, right? Right?
THE TOUR WAS EPIC WITH IAN.
It was!
Agree. Was there. My sister in law has worked shows at a local theater for 25 years. She worked this show and testified it was the rowdiest show where the audience had the most fun ever!
I saw it, was amazing. Anyone criticizing it , probably didn’t go to a show
I saw it too and it was fantastic.
The show I went to was so bad Ray manzarek even told the crowd they could get their money back. So maybe you got lucky.
Yeah, if you assume I wasn’t at one of the awful shows, I’m just gonna go ahead and assume that you are a cash grab proto band type of guy. You probably thought ac/dc fronted by axel was “a stroke of musical genius”. The tour sucked, it should have never happened. Not all bands can be Van Halen.
Me too, saw them twice, once in a little club, and once in an arena, both shows were great
I saw them too. Astley did a good job stepping into Jim's shoes. Only criticism, I don't remember them doing Riders on the Storm ? And did we really need drum & bass solos. (I know, that's technically 2 criticisms).
Just finished reading John Densmore’s book “Unhinged,” which details the lawsuit against Robby and Ray. He makes a compelling argument against Robby and Ray for trying to use the logo and trying to pass off Ian as a Jim wanna be.
I can see his point. The Doors had a "gentleman's agreement" that they wouldn't do anything unless all four of them wanted to do it, and I guess he thought now that it was 50 years later, they were down to three, etc. it still held. To me it was kind of chickenshit, because Ray and Robby outnumbered him, and they were clearly trying to do something of quality (i.e. not use Doors music and footage of Jim in a Coke commercial) AND he had sort of a flimsy excuse. Instead of just saying he didn't like the idea, he also made it a point to say he couldn't tour due to tinnitus, etc.
Robbie Krieger's old house that he built in Bel Air 1971 showed up on Million Dollar Listing.
Ian did a great job filling the boots of Jim.
Ray and Robbie were amazing as one would expect.
I saw them, and I LOVE RAY and ROBBY, but this came off just cringy on so many levels. It felt awkward as hell.✌️
Greed at its finest
Love that you have a lot of Cult material on your channel. You should do one on the Holy Barbarians. I’m such a fan that me and a buddy drive from Texas to Cleveland just to attend some festival to see them. That album is so good. Too bad they weren’t around long enough for a follow up but I loved beyond good and evil even if the band says they weren’t too stoked bout it. I think Ian downplays too much of their work.
LAWSUITS instead of people working to earn their money! The fans in the end suffer the most.
So Densmore is the only with with respect for the music, and class
I went to a show on this tour... and it was amazing! I've always loved The Cult, but never got to see them live. Seeing Ian fronting "Riders on the Storm" was close enough. Would still like to see Duffy play live though...
You still can
Perhaps they should have named themselves 'The Courthouse Doors'.
Good one!
I didn't make it to any of the Ian shows, but I've seen a number of video clips and heard a number of complete shows on audio. Disastrous??? He did a fine job!! It was the closest thing to a new incarnation of the Doors they had.
I saw the last version of the band, billed simply as "Robby Krieger and Ray Manzerek" maybe a year or so before Ray's death. They had a guy from a top notch Doors cover band on vocals. Personally I loved it, because the guy kind of disappeared--he provided extremely accurate Jim style vocals and the focus was on Ray and Robby. And DAMN, were they good!!!
Are you nuts, they were great; the closest thing i ever got to seeing The Doors. Performances were probably more consistent as well.
Many people forget that The DOORS did continue after Morrison's death in the 1970's. "Other Voices" & "Full Circle" are very respectable albums in their own right. I thought the Doors with Ian Astbury was a pretty cool project. I hoped that The Doors of the 21st Century would have recorded a new album together.
LOL Stoned and horny.....(Jim Face palms)
Yes they did "Tightrope ride" I believe was the featured single with Ray singing I believe.
Did you see any of the shows? Meyer Music Bowl in Melbourne Australia. The 10,000 people in the crowd absolutely loved it.
No One Here Gets Out Alive
It’s a line from 5 to 1
lormendi he got it wrong in the video, Holmes
@@edx21x aren't you observant...Watson
Junior James why all the anger about correcting the name of the book? Seems pretty harmless but yet it triggered a few people.
@@edx21x Nothing but love brother!
I thought Astbury was awesome singing for The Doors, the LA Woman live gig is very enjoyable. Basically Copeland has always been a bell end and Densmore just comes across like a bit of a prick, can see why Morrison never really liked him.
Same
Densmore actually said let's replace Morrison. I quess he didn't realize Morrison was the doors..
@@Frip36 A British slang term similar to "douchebag"
@@Frip36 there is a certain part of the male anatomy, the end of which is shaped like a bell. So calling someone a bell end- you get the idea.
@@Frip36 Wanker or sod.
Reminds me of "Sublime with Rome"
Ikr it's not fucking sublime without Brad! Quit riding the sublime coattails come up with a different name ffs, it really puts me off from listening to them. They do good music but change the damn name, I liked the work they did as long beach dub allstars.
@@buzzzthrower555 I'm with you especially now there's only 1 original member left, as good a job as Rome does he isn't Brad and they ain't his songs. I guess when everyone is incessantly banging on about the old tunes, waving money and trying to relive the hay day greed slips in. Queen should have changed, but what about ac/dc, chilli peppers or fotheringay?
When Chris Cornell passed away, I felt that if the Kim, Ben, and Matt want to continue the band, they should change the name, because without Chris, there is no Soundgarden. And as much as I like Alice in Chains with William Duvall, I think they should've changed their name.
@@buzzzthrower555 It was disingenuous. Just a ployed out money grab. They should've just continued using LBDA. Sublime's biggest draw for me was Brad singing about his struggles w addiction and now hearing Rome try to "relate" is garbage. He's a talented dude and would earn way more respect making it on his own merits.
@@danielclark325 I've got mad love for Brian Johnson but Bon Scott4LIFE...So much more soulful.
I saw them in 2003 with Astbury. I thought they were good.
I saw that tour and it was amazing!! John Kaye was with steppenwolf and killed it and so did the doors!! Incredible show
Lucky man!
*Kay
Your video is very informative, JIM'S father didn't want JIM to be a singer but he'll take the money, I'm surprised at John Densmore , not letting his band mates make some money and keep the Doors name alive, but he's in on a split of 5 million dollars with Pamela's and JIM'S family.
I saw the Doors of the 21st Century in 2004. They were fantastic.
Sorry man, but by my metric it was anything but disaster. More like triumph.
Jim's dad kept tight reins on any & all of Jim's likeness & royalties.
Which is a funny thing as they were 100% completely estranged during the entire doors period, and through to his death.
Probably trying to protect his sons name. I don't think his father approved of the lifestyle/profession. Did what he could.
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Funny how Jim's "dad" hated him the whole time he was famous and touring. But once people get the $$$$$$$$ eyes everything suddenly changes.
@@BB.halo_heir STFU
I saw them play at the 930 Club in Washington, DC. They were fantastic. Ian Astbury sounded great.
I was at this show as well, my 5th and final time seeing them with ian. I remember they played the songs heavier this time than the previous shows, as well as hinted that ian was reuniting with the cult when rey announced him as the voice of the cult. I still follow the cult’s tours to this day as i did before the doors thing. This experience made ian even better
I saw Robby and ray play with the singer from the cover band wild child and it was amazing!!!! It was like seeing Jim in his 40's . Densmore sucks I read his book he blows. Never forget that show and I like to think I got ray to smile once lol
Ian was amazing doin that. He such a great singer. I love the Cult
No one but one of the greatest rock vocalists like Ian Astbury could do it with the Doors, ridiculous lawsuits ruined it, but the work on stage was great
3:42 Now I know why I've never seen Ian smile before! Yikes!
I wish I’d never seen that
Saw them in Detroit with Astbury. Was fantastic.
I saw that tour in Dublin, one of the best gigs I've ever seen
I SAW THIS TOUR at Th e Oakdale in Wallingford CT. AWESOME NIGHT !!!!!
I saw them play on this tour, it was a fantastic show.
I saw them twice at Wembley Arena, London Uk- and they were AMAZING - Ian Astbury did the almost impossible by singing Jim Morrisons songs with Ray and Robbie -SO KEEP YOUY COMMENTS TO YOURSELF!
It's like you can't even say anything about a door or else you get sued. They should have just renamed themselves The Wooden Rectangles.
Interesting rename bands- The Spinning Rocks ect
The Portals?
The How.
The seashore boys
Steel Panther is something along those lines
I saw two shows at Wembley in 2003 and 2004. Great shows. Astbury was respectful. The lawsuits etc were a drag but seeing Manzarek and Krieger live justified everything.
I saw the D21C a couple times with Ian. It was amazing live. I’m glad I got the opportunity.
The names of the Doors members are so popular in their generation that they did not need the name the Doors. Fans know who they are if they use their own names. I agree with several posters here saying how others took advantage of the ignorance of the Doors members using a name they did not have to use. These guys are musicians. Let them play their music and stop impeding their desire to explore their musical legacy.
Got to see one of their shows in 2003, it was great.
Was far from disastrous Ian Asbury done a good job
I saw The Doors with Ian Asberry and Stewart Copeland in the early 2000s, good show till Ian started reading Jim Morrison’s poetry while Native Americans dance on stage... felt a little too try hard for my taste.
Do you know anything about Ian Astbury? He’s been fascinated (bordering on obsessed) with indian culture for more than forty years, after living in Ontario, and discovering it as a teenager. It’s not just a “try hard” act. It actually means something to him.
@@MrJett1971 yes. He's half british- half American Indian.
@@bobbystereo936 No! Ian is half irish and half scottish.
Astbury! You idiot!
@@nelsonventura7374 There is some connection with native Americans because he grew up in Canada.
It was Fn' GREAT! I WAS FRONT ROW W MY WIFE !!!
I saw them in 2003 with Ian Astbury and thought that it was a great show! I later became friends with the later-period drummer Ty Dennis and there was talks of him recording my band, but life happened and we fell apart. I saw Manzarek & Krieger (with Dennis and former Butts Band member Phil Chen) one last time in 2011. This time I got to meet Robby. Ray's brother Rick was at the show and joined them on stage, so when the show was over, they left and I never got the chance to meet him. The Manzarek/Krieger/Astbury line-up had written and recorded an album's worth of material that sadly we'll likely never hear.
I seen em live in Glasgow.. Was superb