My thought was that the less magic stat the assassin has, the less magical damage the weapon deals. So, 1000 magic might do less than 800 or maybe even 600 physical damage. Depends on how the characters' and weapons stats interact. It's possible that the dragons vein does the most damage with assassin and heavens key with warfarer. Not to mention that dragons vein can be further elementaly buffed
You're on the money with both of your points GoBro. Well sort of, its a bit more nuanced... But Dragon's Vein has the biggest damage output potential, considering enchanments can be added, whereas in their base forms Heaven's Key would still win out due to the very rarerly resisted holy enchantment it comes with. In al scenarios, Warfarer should out pace the thief on damage, when dealing magical damage (i.e. Using weapons enchanments).
One note about the blighted status effect, if an enemy is affected with it and you strike them with another blighted attack it can deal massive damage, that being said, the same can happen to you ^.^
@@khaoss4024 ooo didnt think of that, saurian daggers are the only thing ive used, procs were infrequent at best and mostly from helm/skull splitter... id assume you can raise the chance but will still need a spammable multi hit skill to effectively see it proc, as for dmg it seems on par with the explosive arrow but i need to test more if it resets the buildup (they usually die before a 2nd proc, hope we get true arisen mode or something... they die so fast)
Blighted is really good agains foes that aren't resistant, this (due to higher resistances and straight up immunity) does become a bit less effective the further you progress. Still some the coolest looking daggers imo.
Random facts: in DD1, the Framae Blades were the strongest physical damage daggers in the game! Also, Heaven's Key were the best daggers in the vanilla game, but had the same weapon model as the Divine Razors
as i recall all the weapons sold for wyrmcrystals were the Tier 3 cursed weapons from DDDA, and the stargazer set for magicusers was the Tier 3 magearmor.
Came here after having practically all of the top daggers and finding Heavens Key to literally be the best daggers after leveling them up fully. So i was wondering just out of interest if there was anything even stronger, but clearly not. The bolt and frosted daggers are both great too, and Dragons Vein is also great all fully leveled up, but that massive knockdown power with just a tiny bit less damage over Drains Vein, Heavens Key just destroys everything for me. So looks like i already have the best daggers in the game. Roll on the DLC!
did u choose heavens key as rank 1 compared to actual bis weapon because of permanent holy magic dmg? because im sure you know mages in endgame ran affinity buffs
In my opinion they are just an overall better dagger especially when you fight spirits, undead, skeletons, Medusa which are all weak to holy damage. Once you get high enough of a lvl it won’t matter tho. You’ll do enough damage lol
It would defeat the purpose of Blight Arrows...as those arrows are by far the most expensive and Blight itself would need a nerf if a fairly early weapon would have blight by default.
@@Gaming_Analytic Beautiful feeling of achievement the funny thing is shortly after I encountered another drake was fighting it near water dashed out of its way and it drowned lol 😂
Well damn im glad i didnt sell the ice daggers… i noticed you cant use the fire weapon skills on them which do loads of damage so never even tried them on enemies
BROOO! Thank you! lol I was looking at this list hitting my puffco and was like damn the frosted edges look insane. Then I seen yo comment and got them in 2 mins lol, appreciate you g
Dragon's Vein is the best if the mage has enchantment. It's the best for fighting any bosses or dragons. Heaven's Key is only good against skeletons, ghost, undead, lich, dullahan but not so strong against living beings compare to Dragon's vein. Need to adjust your ranking bro😂
Bolt from the Blue should rank much higher. They do incredible damage and most things don't resist resist lightning.
+1 on this, infused with lightning you don't have to use elemental infusion skill is a great ease on skill slot.
My thought was that the less magic stat the assassin has, the less magical damage the weapon deals. So, 1000 magic might do less than 800 or maybe even 600 physical damage. Depends on how the characters' and weapons stats interact. It's possible that the dragons vein does the most damage with assassin and heavens key with warfarer. Not to mention that dragons vein can be further elementaly buffed
You're on the money with both of your points GoBro. Well sort of, its a bit more nuanced... But Dragon's Vein has the biggest damage output potential, considering enchanments can be added, whereas in their base forms Heaven's Key would still win out due to the very rarerly resisted holy enchantment it comes with.
In al scenarios, Warfarer should out pace the thief on damage, when dealing magical damage (i.e. Using weapons enchanments).
One note about the blighted status effect, if an enemy is affected with it and you strike them with another blighted attack it can deal massive damage, that being said, the same can happen to you ^.^
Mmmm how crazy is the damage? If I mix this with the sorceror augment for debilitations will it go crazy?
@@khaoss4024 ooo didnt think of that, saurian daggers are the only thing ive used, procs were infrequent at best and mostly from helm/skull splitter... id assume you can raise the chance but will still need a spammable multi hit skill to effectively see it proc, as for dmg it seems on par with the explosive arrow but i need to test more if it resets the buildup (they usually die before a 2nd proc, hope we get true arisen mode or something... they die so fast)
Blighted is really good agains foes that aren't resistant, this (due to higher resistances and straight up immunity) does become a bit less effective the further you progress. Still some the coolest looking daggers imo.
Trying the thief vocation now. Thanks for your guides 😉😊
Random facts: in DD1, the Framae Blades were the strongest physical damage daggers in the game! Also, Heaven's Key were the best daggers in the vanilla game, but had the same weapon model as the Divine Razors
Love it... Thanks for sharing Jeremy!
as i recall all the weapons sold for wyrmcrystals were the Tier 3 cursed weapons from DDDA, and the stargazer set for magicusers was the Tier 3 magearmor.
@@WhyrenGP a few yea, it's a mix of those and the ones you got from killing Grigori in the campaign
Came here after having practically all of the top daggers and finding Heavens Key to literally be the best daggers after leveling them up fully. So i was wondering just out of interest if there was anything even stronger, but clearly not. The bolt and frosted daggers are both great too, and Dragons Vein is also great all fully leveled up, but that massive knockdown power with just a tiny bit less damage over Drains Vein, Heavens Key just destroys everything for me. So looks like i already have the best daggers in the game. Roll on the DLC!
did u choose heavens key as rank 1 compared to actual bis weapon because of permanent holy magic dmg? because im sure you know mages in endgame ran affinity buffs
In my opinion they are just an overall better dagger especially when you fight spirits, undead, skeletons, Medusa which are all weak to holy damage. Once you get high enough of a lvl it won’t matter tho. You’ll do enough damage lol
@@azrael9387and they look the best
They actually deal a bit more damage than dragon veins
I found a gorchimera in that cave! I've gotten to Battahl so it might be a change in world state.
Battahl is a world of pain... What level are you exodus?
I was hoping that Spite would cause Fulminant Poison the way Archers Blight Arrows can.
It would defeat the purpose of Blight Arrows...as those arrows are by far the most expensive and Blight itself would need a nerf if a fairly early weapon would have blight by default.
I just found the BOLTS FROM THE BLUE DAGGERS. Where should I upgrade them, vermounth, bakbatthal, or dwarven?
😂nah frosted edges smokes every blade killed my 1st drake these and never looked back moreover great list and breakdown
Nothing quite like that 1st drake... :)
@@Gaming_Analytic Beautiful feeling of achievement the funny thing is shortly after I encountered another drake was fighting it near water dashed out of its way and it drowned lol 😂
Lol... Water in DD2 is the final boss... And still undefeated!
@@Gaming_Analytic lol 😂
But you can’t use blades of pyre with them properly right?
Well damn im glad i didnt sell the ice daggers… i noticed you cant use the fire weapon skills on them which do loads of damage so never even tried them on enemies
Glad I got the frosted edges lol things are dope
And one of the best looking also.
Whats the best way to upgrade the frosted edges?
was that a dead griffin in the background
No griffin's were hurt (much) during the making of this video. It could be a feathery rock for all I know. :p
anyone that wants the frozen edge cheap and early game hire my pawn "level 10 pawn" and give it 1 explosive arrow 👍🏻
Pawn ID:L3Q01DQ19PCP
BROOO! Thank you! lol I was looking at this list hitting my puffco and was like damn the frosted edges look insane. Then I seen yo comment and got them in 2 mins lol, appreciate you g
How can i get it from him
i HATE that the bst dagger is battali design is so bad. why not use the old heavens key as the model i never know
What’s the name of the torso armor u have on ?
Vashara Scale Skin... Pretty dope ngl...
@@Gaming_Analytic ?? isnt it enshadowed battle garb? Vashara is warrior/mystic spear exclusive
@@duarteleonardo8352might have warfarer on
@@jas6853 could be the case if it WAS vashara, it is not, my question was actually rectoric, it's definitly enshadowed garb
Can you do Sorcerer build next please I want to build an op sorcerer pawn
Sorry mate... So many things I had to get through.
Dragon's Vein is the best if the mage has enchantment. It's the best for fighting any bosses or dragons.
Heaven's Key is only good against skeletons, ghost, undead, lich, dullahan but not so strong against living beings compare to Dragon's vein.
Need to adjust your ranking bro😂
Before I watch I know #1 is Heaven's key & if it's not then it's wrong 💀
No brainer... :p
Thank u my nerdy friend
:p
Id put the spike higher for the poison
No daggers do poison. What do you mean?
Restpoint checktown lol
A Freudian slip...
Bolt of the blue are amazing! Way to low on your list
The daggers in dd2 are ugly tbh, bolts of the blue are ok and throat cutters
Heavens key is trash
My pawn slays everything with them. Its not even a contest. They are with distance the best daggers.
ARE trash. Not IS. There are two of them. If you are going to troll at least learn to type.