Man, after reading the comments I couldn’t believe how hated Tony Blair is. I’m in the US and Bush doesn’t even get that much hate anymore; in fact, Bush is having something of a reputational renaissance. It helps W’s case that Trump made him look like FDR but Bush has actually had the class and restraint to keep out of politics since he left office.
Bush frequently hosts fundraising dinners for congressional GOP candidates, he hasn't stayed out of politics, he just doesn't do so many interviews because he's nowhere near as articulate as Blair.
Blair is extremely unpopular online. And don't get me wrong he's not loved in the real world. But the man won every election he fought at a canter, even the one after Iraq had happened. Which is THE reason he is so hated online. There's definitely a lot of people out there who support him but don't feel willing to do so openly. Especially given that he's not relevant to UK politics anymore. So there's no point getting into an argument about him with someone.
Here is my advice which you didnt listen to in 2002. If you are at war with the Taliban, finish the war first before you go invade someone else because the Taliban might win. And Osama might escape. If you go to war in a country to respond to 911 you should pick a country where the actual hijackers came from. If you are going to war with whoever helps Bin Ladin you look really stupid when you stop at the border of your ally Pakistan and pretend nobody knows hes there. If you overthrow a dictator do not obliterate the entire civil service infrastructure or fire the entire army because the country will collapse into chaos. If you take over a country do not put incompetent cronies in charge if big important things like power and water. If you cause a refugee crisis dont complain about immigration. If you dont have good evidence someone is going to attack you then dont flash it in front of the UN because it might be a lie. If you want to set up an international rules based order after WWII to stop wars then dont break those rules unless you are under imminent existential threat. If you come into power then pay attention to security and dont blow off warnings from people about impending attacks. If you want to stop religious fanatic terrorists then maybe stop allying with them for decade after decade after decade. If you want to spread democracy then listen to your own people.
Well said. The way Blair is periodically trotted out by the world's media as some kind of wise old sage on world and domestic affairs is frankly ludicrous. Not only was there Iraq - during his time in office he did absolutely nothing progressive beyond the first year of his first term in government, instead used private sector finance to build schools and hospitals, costing British tax payers billions more than it should have. He was no genius, and definitely no example for progressives. After more than a decade of Labour rule, mostly under his watch, the gap between rich and poor had only widened.
@@highdefinist9697 An appropriate term definitely. But we are not talking about him right now. Of course no one would expect an western media outlet to take advise from him.
He’s right on about AI, we need to be at the forefront especially with the infrastructure required to deliver new medical services and welfare support when AI becomes ubiquitous and pervasive.
ffs, before i clicked i was hoping he didn't say AI ... clear he aint used anything related to it.. He's also right that kids should be taught in a proper manner, good advanced, modern methods, tech etc.. shame at the higher levels its putting kids into crippling dept that lasts around 30 years .. So .. Tone .. whats the answer to that ?
@2 mins in What private sector businesses have actually improved their service post IT revolution? Only convincing case might be booking hotels and airline tickets, but the total time to travel by air when you include all the post 911 bs is far greater than it was in 1985. Only thing it’s been good for is information, at a pretty low level. Like basic articles and wikipedia. That’s something I guess, but in a world where two thirds of the economy are service sector jobs like waiters, baristas,medical workers, plumbers etc, things are arguably more lame and repulsive
Everytime that man says ‘we’ he never defines it! Certainly aint the populace or the people he is referring to. Follow his money, his version of ‘we’ is that group that benefits from state funded initiatives and forever sets the self-serving statusquo of ‘frameworks’ designed as control and suppression by that same group to continue retention of ‘the drivers seat’. Invidious little golum.
My girlfriend is an elementary teacher, and she and her colleagues definitely laments lesson planning. My impression is they find it more useful for more inexperienced teachers, but more seasoned teachers often don't feel the need to be nearly so reliant on strict preset plans, often opting for a more spontaneous, personalized approach.
I'm 31 and British. Followed politics heavily for the last 8 or so years. I don't believe Tony Blair is a war criminal. The invasion of Iraq was not a war crime.
@@robertbones326It's because of millions of you that were created to think truth, morale, and justice are a matter of belief and opinion, that he is still walking around. For you it's only BBC images and Iraq. You haven't tried to sleep 78 days under bombs, hence the only words you should be writing are: I apologize 🙏 It is because your words are an insult to millions of living and dead that I kindly ask you to be quiet.
@@robertbones326 I'm British and ex-forces and I believe that he IS a war criminal. The "dossier" on WMD was completely made up and he and Bush knew it.
I mean he is one of very few people who can speak to how international politics on the very highest are conducted behind the scenes. Regardless of what one might think of him as a person and leader that knowledge in itself is an incredible goldmine of unique experience.
@joestojanovic6613 What is a war crime and how does one prove one is guilty of war crimes? Why hasn't the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Tony Blair if he's suspected of committing war crimes? Why do you claim to know that he is guilty when there hasn't even been a court trial? Britain invading Iraq is not proof of war crimes.
Yes yes blair’s a war criminal, but he was perhaps the best PM the UK has had since Thatcher ( despite her being arguably more hated by the general public than Blair ) The UK never had it better under Blair, not before, not since. 2000s UK was a paradise, even better than living in the US. Shame he went on to involve the UK in a 21st century war.
@@kb5509 Well, she singlehandedly revived the UK economy and made it compete on the world stage. It truly depends on who you ask. A suburban Londoner definitely benefitted from Thatcher’s policies, a coal miner in Yorkshire not so much.
@@vibranium-riprich314To the economy, she put is in a recession in her early reign. And then John Major had a recession on his hands almost immediately after she was ousted due to her policies. Aside from that, writing off large swathes of the country to concentrate on solely benefiting your base is not a good PM. She signed off on an entire city being left to rot with no support, and actively went about destroying countless towns and communities, who still haven't recovered. Good PM? I couldn't think of a worse one if I had a spare week.
This comment section is interesting, with many people calling him a "war criminal"... perhaps, it is actually justified to some degree, I don't know. But, the fact that so many independent people use this exact specific term, so quickly after the video is published, suspiciously looks like you-know-what... I wonder, what exactly Blair said which upset them so much? Personally, I didn't particularly care about Blair before, but this actually makes me more interested in the rest of the interview.
It might not be bots. A segment of the British population are so embittered over Iraq that they won't let go of the past, and Iraq is all they ever talk about whenever Blair's name is mentioned - this has gone on for decades. At least Blair's not as divisive as Thatcher was, though. The UK went mental when she died.
@@Stopfief That's a good point, maybe you are right. From the outside, Blair looks just like one of several such questionable people, GW Bush perhaps being the most notable one, but British people themselves might plausibly perceive it as more "personal" if it involves one of their own politicians.
He's called a war criminal because that's what he is. You maybe weren't yet an adult back then (2003), but that Iraq war is the backdrop to much of the trouble of the last 20 years. I like many others marched against it, as we knew it was being waged under false pretexts and had no chance of 'success' even in its own terms. That Blair STILL to this day says history will judge it was the correct decision is purely self-preservation. He knows what a shit show it turned out. Over a million Iraqis died during the war itself, and many many more since. Non stop turmoil has afflicted the region since. Daesh would never have risen without the Iraq War. If that's not something to get angry about then I wonder what the fuck would be. Not only this though, Blair was the British PM for over a decade - a Labour PM, so purportedly of the left or center left. And during that time the gap between the rich and poor actually increased. Some record for a progressive ! Admittedly his government was better than the shower which followed, but that is hardly an achievement !
To me this is a big problem with internet media culture. It's so incredibly easy to turn off and tune out anyone and anything that we don't want to hear for any reason. I am personally extremely critical of Tony Blair both as a person and as a leader, but I trust that Dwarkesh has good reasons for asking him to come on the podcast and will listen to the episode in full when I have time before I make a judgement on whether or not I agree with his decision.
@@noone-ld7pt Everyone now believes they are an expert on niche, nuanced, and historical topics. Instead of trying to understand others world views its "anyone I don't like is Hitler".
You can unsubscribe without telling anyone. But, by publicly stating it, you are implying that you would expect Patel to make less interviews like that.
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the dark lord has a point
Only Labour leader in history to win consecutive elections
you're not doing anything
Man, after reading the comments I couldn’t believe how hated Tony Blair is. I’m in the US and Bush doesn’t even get that much hate anymore; in fact, Bush is having something of a reputational renaissance. It helps W’s case that Trump made him look like FDR but Bush has actually had the class and restraint to keep out of politics since he left office.
Bush frequently hosts fundraising dinners for congressional GOP candidates, he hasn't stayed out of politics, he just doesn't do so many interviews because he's nowhere near as articulate as Blair.
Blair is extremely unpopular online. And don't get me wrong he's not loved in the real world. But the man won every election he fought at a canter, even the one after Iraq had happened. Which is THE reason he is so hated online. There's definitely a lot of people out there who support him but don't feel willing to do so openly. Especially given that he's not relevant to UK politics anymore. So there's no point getting into an argument about him with someone.
The world's single biggest advice to Tony Blair - go back to your rock.
I wish Tony Blair comes back as prime minister. God I don’t know why but Borris Johnson is just a shitshow.
Your interviews are great. Proud of you old friend. Keep working hard!!
War criminal gives his thoughts 😅
At one point, this guy was so popular in Britain he rivalled Churchill in terms of a PM's popularity. What a fall. 😂😂
Fony bLiar, Miranda the war criminal
Blair's advice , Whatever you do Keir , dont appoint David , oh you already have !!!
Who’d have thought Gollum had another precious!
Here is my advice which you didnt listen to in 2002. If you are at war with the Taliban, finish the war first before you go invade someone else because the Taliban might win. And Osama might escape. If you go to war in a country to respond to 911 you should pick a country where the actual hijackers came from. If you are going to war with whoever helps Bin Ladin you look really stupid when you stop at the border of your ally Pakistan and pretend nobody knows hes there. If you overthrow a dictator do not obliterate the entire civil service infrastructure or fire the entire army because the country will collapse into chaos. If you take over a country do not put incompetent cronies in charge if big important things like power and water. If you cause a refugee crisis dont complain about immigration. If you dont have good evidence someone is going to attack you then dont flash it in front of the UN because it might be a lie. If you want to set up an international rules based order after WWII to stop wars then dont break those rules unless you are under imminent existential threat. If you come into power then pay attention to security and dont blow off warnings from people about impending attacks. If you want to stop religious fanatic terrorists then maybe stop allying with them for decade after decade after decade. If you want to spread democracy then listen to your own people.
Well said.
The way Blair is periodically trotted out by the world's media as some kind of wise old sage on world and domestic affairs is frankly ludicrous.
Not only was there Iraq - during his time in office he did absolutely nothing progressive beyond the first year of his first term in government, instead used private sector finance to build schools and hospitals, costing British tax payers billions more than it should have.
He was no genius, and definitely no example for progressives.
After more than a decade of Labour rule, mostly under his watch, the gap between rich and poor had only widened.
ARREST TONY BLIAR!
War criminal.
That seems a bit of a strong term. What term would you use for Putin then?
@@highdefinist9697 bots shall be reported, you are aware of that, right?
@@johnnybegood9005 Doesn't look like it's doing much, judging by many of the other comments...
@@highdefinist9697 They're both war criminals, as is W.
@@highdefinist9697 An appropriate term definitely. But we are not talking about him right now. Of course no one would expect an western media outlet to take advise from him.
Leave we'll alone Blair you had your stint people did not vote for you
He’s right on about AI, we need to be at the forefront especially with the infrastructure required to deliver new medical services and welfare support when AI becomes ubiquitous and pervasive.
Indeed!!!!
we are finished
ffs, before i clicked i was hoping he didn't say AI ... clear he aint used anything related to it.. He's also right that kids should be taught in a proper manner, good advanced, modern methods, tech etc.. shame at the higher levels its putting kids into crippling dept that lasts around 30 years .. So .. Tone .. whats the answer to that ?
TH-cam comments are the nut low
@2 mins in What private sector businesses have actually improved their service post IT revolution? Only convincing case might be booking hotels and airline tickets, but the total time to travel by air when you include all the post 911 bs is far greater than it was in 1985. Only thing it’s been good for is information, at a pretty low level. Like basic articles and wikipedia. That’s something I guess, but in a world where two thirds of the economy are service sector jobs like waiters, baristas,medical workers, plumbers etc, things are arguably more lame and repulsive
Like Keir they're pros at bullshitimg
Everytime that man says ‘we’ he never defines it! Certainly aint the populace or the people he is referring to. Follow his money, his version of ‘we’ is that group that benefits from state funded initiatives and forever sets the self-serving statusquo of ‘frameworks’ designed as control and suppression by that same group to continue retention of ‘the drivers seat’. Invidious little golum.
Ah wow, it went ALL the way off the rails in the last sentence. "Lesson planning isn't part of the core skills of a teacher" what???
My girlfriend is an elementary teacher, and she and her colleagues definitely laments lesson planning. My impression is they find it more useful for more inexperienced teachers, but more seasoned teachers often don't feel the need to be nearly so reliant on strict preset plans, often opting for a more spontaneous, personalized approach.
Yuk 🤮
Surely, you’re aware he's a war criminal, correct? What profound insights could one possibly glean from such a character?
I'm 31 and British. Followed politics heavily for the last 8 or so years. I don't believe Tony Blair is a war criminal. The invasion of Iraq was not a war crime.
@@robertbones326It's because of millions of you that were created to think truth, morale, and justice are a matter of belief and opinion, that he is still walking around. For you it's only BBC images and Iraq. You haven't tried to sleep 78 days under bombs, hence the only words you should be writing are: I apologize 🙏
It is because your words are an insult to millions of living and dead that I kindly ask you to be quiet.
@@robertbones326 I'm British and ex-forces and I believe that he IS a war criminal. The "dossier" on WMD was completely made up and he and Bush knew it.
I mean he is one of very few people who can speak to how international politics on the very highest are conducted behind the scenes. Regardless of what one might think of him as a person and leader that knowledge in itself is an incredible goldmine of unique experience.
@joestojanovic6613
What is a war crime and how does one prove one is guilty of war crimes?
Why hasn't the ICC issued an arrest warrant for Tony Blair if he's suspected of committing war crimes?
Why do you claim to know that he is guilty when there hasn't even been a court trial?
Britain invading Iraq is not proof of war crimes.
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Yes yes blair’s a war criminal, but he was perhaps the best PM the UK has had since Thatcher ( despite her being arguably more hated by the general public than Blair )
The UK never had it better under Blair, not before, not since. 2000s UK was a paradise, even better than living in the US.
Shame he went on to involve the UK in a 21st century war.
Calling Thatcher a good PM is wild.
@@kb5509 Well, she singlehandedly revived the UK economy and made it compete on the world stage. It truly depends on who you ask. A suburban Londoner definitely benefitted from Thatcher’s policies, a coal miner in Yorkshire not so much.
@@vibranium-riprich314To the economy, she put is in a recession in her early reign. And then John Major had a recession on his hands almost immediately after she was ousted due to her policies.
Aside from that, writing off large swathes of the country to concentrate on solely benefiting your base is not a good PM. She signed off on an entire city being left to rot with no support, and actively went about destroying countless towns and communities, who still haven't recovered.
Good PM? I couldn't think of a worse one if I had a spare week.
Blair is the puppetmaster behind it all.
This comment section is interesting, with many people calling him a "war criminal"... perhaps, it is actually justified to some degree, I don't know. But, the fact that so many independent people use this exact specific term, so quickly after the video is published, suspiciously looks like you-know-what...
I wonder, what exactly Blair said which upset them so much? Personally, I didn't particularly care about Blair before, but this actually makes me more interested in the rest of the interview.
It goes back to the war on Iraq being based on BS, long before the modern trend of trollbots.
It might not be bots. A segment of the British population are so embittered over Iraq that they won't let go of the past, and Iraq is all they ever talk about whenever Blair's name is mentioned - this has gone on for decades. At least Blair's not as divisive as Thatcher was, though. The UK went mental when she died.
@@Stopfief That's a good point, maybe you are right.
From the outside, Blair looks just like one of several such questionable people, GW Bush perhaps being the most notable one, but British people themselves might plausibly perceive it as more "personal" if it involves one of their own politicians.
He's called a war criminal because that's what he is.
You maybe weren't yet an adult back then (2003), but that Iraq war is the backdrop to much of the trouble of the last 20 years.
I like many others marched against it, as we knew it was being waged under false pretexts and had no chance of 'success' even in its own terms. That Blair STILL to this day says history will judge it was the correct decision is purely self-preservation. He knows what a shit show it turned out.
Over a million Iraqis died during the war itself, and many many more since. Non stop turmoil has afflicted the region since. Daesh would never have risen without the Iraq War.
If that's not something to get angry about then I wonder what the fuck would be.
Not only this though, Blair was the British PM for over a decade - a Labour PM, so purportedly of the left or center left. And during that time the gap between the rich and poor actually increased. Some record for a progressive !
Admittedly his government was better than the shower which followed, but that is hardly an achievement !
I'm hoping the advice was "don't take advise from war criminals or intelligence from the CIA"
Blair's a monster. I'm unsubbing from you for constantly shilling him. Goodbye.
Goodbye 👋
Let me guess: On the next Blair video, you will write another comment about how you are "unsubbing"? And so on and so forth?
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War criminal. Labour shouldnt take any advice. I‘m not gonna watch this trash.
Not aware of the topic, care to explain?
@@ankuryogi3298he’s talking about the invasion of Iraq….which wasn’t even his choice his hand was forced into joining
Calling him a "war criminal" seems a bit excessive. If you call him a war criminal, what would you call Putin then?
And yet here you are watching 🤭
@@highdefinist9697Putin has nothing to do on here. Quit your bullsh*t.
Unsubscribe by me now
To me this is a big problem with internet media culture. It's so incredibly easy to turn off and tune out anyone and anything that we don't want to hear for any reason. I am personally extremely critical of Tony Blair both as a person and as a leader, but I trust that Dwarkesh has good reasons for asking him to come on the podcast and will listen to the episode in full when I have time before I make a judgement on whether or not I agree with his decision.
@@noone-ld7pt Everyone now believes they are an expert on niche, nuanced, and historical topics. Instead of trying to understand others world views its "anyone I don't like is Hitler".
You can unsubscribe without telling anyone.
But, by publicly stating it, you are implying that you would expect Patel to make less interviews like that.
War criminal.
Iraq was unpopular not illegal
@@KevenHutchinson-gt1nn It was an illegal invasion on a false pretext. Learn your history.
@@KevenHutchinson-gt1nn the WMD’s were known to be fictitious
Your page has interviews with Bashir Al-Assad. Don't pretend you care about international law.
@@WCGreeny Sure I do. Interviews with a president are not a war crime lol! Besides, what other countries has he invaded on a false pretext? 😂