Completing whoisthisgit's Very Stupid Fire Emblem Challenge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 เม.ย. 2020
- I have been a long time fan of whoisthisgit. I first came accross his channel sometime around 2008 or so, when he was famous for various Sonic challenge videos and Tails abuse series. Thanks to his videos, I've also gotten into games such as Fire Emblem, Clock Tower and so on. One day, I came accross his "Very Stupid Fire Emblem Challenge", which is about maxing out Barth's resistance stat through natural means (aka leveling up) and without the use of stat boosters. I was wondering if there was anyone who has actually completed the challenge, but no matter how hard I searched, I couldn’t find anything regarding that, so I took it upon myself and decided to complete the challenge. It is by far the hardest RNG challenge I’ve ever done, as Barth is more likely to level both speed and luck simultaneously than get a single point of resistance. Hope you’ll all enjoy watching Barth’s epic battles and him getting resistance points left and right.
Edit: For those wondering how did I complete this challenge, I used save states to undo bad arena fights and levels, and skipped turns to advance RNG to retry the arena fights to get the desired resistance level ups. This technically isn't RNG abuse, but it's not something that's possible on the real hardware. Even with this method, it took me a very long time to do this. I will not answer this question in the comments anymore, so please refer to this description. - เกม
I never thought I'd see this happen, congratulations.
Thank you for your praise, I didn't think you'd actually watch this video
The fact that he was taking more damage from melee attacks than magic before you finished the challenge makes me terrified of this Barth
You know Barth means business when he goes up against fimbulvetr and divine instead of fire and lightning
@@smaragdchaos I wonder if this is the reason why have magic tank armor knights in a few of the other games; haha
@@CallofDutyBlackOps28
This Barth is probably equal to the Black Knight now except for his Speed handicap.
Strongest Characters in Gaming Ever: Maxed Res Barth
*seeing Barth levels up res on his 1st level up* 2%....
A phenomenon you'd never expect to see
@@smaragdchaos how many tries
17:55 the hilarity of a sage not doubling and dealing single digit damage to Barth.
Congrats on turning him into the absolutest of units.
Even Fimbulvetr is too weak to stop Barth now, there's no stopping him
Therapist: capped res Barth doesn't exist, he can't hurt you
Capped res Barth:
It is already a challenge just to have him not die in the arena, let alone have him level up decently
Lol, true. Even with maxed out supports, I had difficulties later on due to Barth's mediocre auxiliary stats, and he was getting doubled way too much until I used the remaining levels to fix his bad speed stat somewhat.
@@smaragdchaos wait, supports work in the arena?
@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Yes, but only in FE6 when it comes to GBA emblems
@@smaragdchaos that's both odd and neat.
@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Yep, that's why whoisthisgit had accuracy issues with Barth while trying this challenge.
The worst part of this is getting Barth to actually win the fight so he might get a point
Indeed, my Barth lost more than he won later on, when support bonuses were no longer an auto win.
@@smaragdchaos I didn't even know support bonuses count in the arena, thanks for that
@@maskolino3533 In FE6, they do for some reason. This was changed in later versions. Thank god they do in FE6, because otherwise this would've been a nightmare.
@@smaragdchaos specially with those nasty silver weapons in the arena
0:36 THAT GUY HAD A SILVER LANCE AND HE STILL DOES LESS DAMAGE *he is the goddam wall*
Nah, he's Just the knightiest Knight that ever knighted
Stats compared to the statistical average for him at that level:
HP +0
STR +0
SKL +5.5
SPD +4
LCK +2
DEF +0
RES +20.4
I used Barth in one of.my playthroughs of FE6, he got pretty much like that, but without resistance, he only got 1 point of resistance
@@e-tean-son4146 To be completely honest with you, if it were me, I'd be surprised to even see him get that one point in resistance he got for you
@@matthewkuscienko4616 the hilarious thing Is that he cap hp, str and def, he got level 19 promoted and he got nothing but res in that level up
@@e-tean-son4146 Somehow, that doesn't surprise me. I remember playing Fates once and I was on chapter 15 of Conquest, and when Gunter got a level up, he only got a point in resistance. I was legitimately unsure if I should be happy to see him get a point in that stat or disappointed that he didn't gain the point to something that he actually had a more likely chance to increase instead
This is truly a cursed Barth
You know something is wrong when you go up against Fimbulvetr Sages and Valkyries and Divine Bishops in Arena with Barth.
You know, I never realized it till now, bors hair looks like the tip of a dixk
I can't imagine the patience you would need to have to pull this off, congratulations
Yeah, it takes no less than 7 hours, it's probably the longest I've spent on a single savefile ever. And thanks
As the biggest Barth fan. I hereby give you the reward of Barth god.
Anyways amazing challenge lmao
Holy shit, Barth had fans? I didn't know. But thanks, I had a blast doing it
@@smaragdchaos im also a Barth fan
Armor Knights with high resistance is legitimately one of the scariest things
4:06 good thing that happened right before you were going to kill that guy.
I play Shadow Dragon (FE 11) a lot and my units LOVE doing that. Like couldn't you have done that sooner and not have lost like half your health during the fight?
@@silverfan190 for real! You've got a 30 percent critical hit chance, and when the other guys health is at 2, *then* you activate your critical. Thank
My Swordmaster experience ft. Guy with a Steel Blade
This barth omg. Congrats. Now i want to see him fight all the magic bosses
I actually want to make that video when I get the desire to play FE6 again
@@smaragdchaos nice
Oh my god you’re probably the first one to do so on youtube
That's what actually motivated me to do this challenge
It's very heart-warming to finally see this challenge completed. I've been a long time viewer of whoisthisgit as well and when I saw the title, it filled me with excitement. Thank you for putting this challenge in peace from all these years of anticipation.
In his head: who's a bad unit now!? You should see how he fairs against magic bosses
I definitely plan on using Barth against magic bosses, I still have the rom, save file, battery file and everything.
@@smaragdchaos I want to see how well he fairs against them
As do I!
The utter madman. The time into this must've been painful. Applaud this guy for taking the challenge and succeeding.
Good Job, We have a invincible general.
God bless you for having the patience to do this, I've been curious over this for god knows how long
I'm glad to be of service
i was also a huge fan of whoisthisgit as well, i loved his video content, and im proud of you that you succeeded the challenge that he would never thought for this to happened, i tried to do with Gilliam in sacred stones by using save states, but i wasn't nearly as patient as you, you have earned my respect and a sub from me, i look forward to see more amazing challenges
I've realized that Barth only needs 21 levels to cap RES, and there are more than 20 maps (provided you catch the holies) between his recruitment and endgame.... couldn't one get Barth to 25 RES in a non-TAS environment by getting his EXP high before the end of each map, then hard resetting for the predetermined RN string to find the RES level? It would be agonizing without speedup, but an amazing meme.
This could work in theory, but falls apart when you consider certain maps don’t have enemies near the start for Barth to kill, let alone one round. There’s also factoring in he still needs to survive to the end as well, which in a bullshit-heavy game as this, proves quite tiresome.
Blue Barth
Mall Barth
_dOn't_ *mESs* _WiTH_ _hiS_ *ONIIIII CHAN*
This is the type of guy who would arena abuse everyone in the game
Honestly, I would do that with my save files if the game allowed for it.
@@smaragdchaos SAMEEEEEE
I think i already did that in Sacred Stones
Remember the first arena in the chapter where you recruit Natasha? Yeah, after that level, everyone in my team is Lvl 20, except Moulder at Lv 18
Oh yeah thats me
@@frds_skce You are a brave soul. In the fe8 arena, you may encounter the silver sword myrmidon.
the fact that your barthe capped res is insane to me. apparently possible, but still insane.
Ladies and gentlemen, the luckiest Fire Emblem player in the world
Ladies and gentlemen, another person who can't read the description!
Jesus christ, i thought it would never be done, but here we are, good job dude
This is absolute madness, I'm so impressed.
You absolute madman, you did it...
I'll drink to that, delightful...
he did it.
the absolute madman did it.
Its still impressive that you increased res more than speed/hab which is hilarious 2% vs 20 and 25% you are very lucky. Good job with the challenge.
Seeing knights dodge any type of attack is crazy to me lol. But then again axe users...
Props to you for having the patience to do this. Welcome to god-tier gamer status!
They said it couldnt be done... The mad man...
RNG rigging those level-ups in addition to those fight wins must truly have taken a dreadful amount of time, especially with Barf's frankly awful winrates in the arena.
Most insane Barth I've seen raised
Git: I fear no man... But that thing...
*Max Res Barth*
It scares me.
I'd never thought someone would actually have the luck to do this
I did an Amelia solo run where she had 28/30 Defense. Fomortis hit her like a wet noodle. Also her Skill and Speed usually cap as well as luch make her good at dodging also (Garm Axe gives another 10% chance to avoid).
Did you use save states to retry bad level ups? I can't imagine trying this challenge otherwise
Naturally. Beating this without save states is severely unreasonable
@@smaragdchaos well... That hurts the "wow" factor
You need to get 21 level ups in 30 levels and he has a growth rate of 2%. The chances of that happening naturally are astronomical. By my calculations it's 7.771561172376096e-16% chance of success. Or in other words, the chance of this happening naturally are so small I don't even understand the number my calculator uses to represent how unlikely it is XD
Barth General color pattern are pretty cool.
Is that actually Barth under that armor? By his combat prowess, you'd think it was Zelgius in a new disguise!
Barth moment
the lego that could
Just an idea that might make this challenge a little more sane: IIRC, when a unit gets an empty level, the game rerolls the level-up (only twice, though.) So in theory, if youj used all your statboosters (aside from Talismans) on Barth so he caps as many of his other stats as possible at earlier levels, you could increase the chance of an empty level (and thus increase the chance of a Res growth by proxy.)
I don't recall that being a thing, but maxing out all of Barth's stats would have the adverse effect of making arena opponents absolutely out of this world, they'd be way too hard to beat, so searching for resistance levels could be even harder with it.
@@smaragdchaos Just a follow-up: I looked it up and the reroll doesn't take into account capped stats, so it wouldn't work anyways. Whoops.
I thought it was going to be the egg thing.
TH-cam thinks this is Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade.
Yeah, youtube auto assign isn't very accurate currently
You are blessed by the devil’s luck.
Now Barth can finally fight Batta the beast at 5% of his power
I want to see your tactics ranking after this, lol
I remember watching who's video on the challenge.
Sounds very painful, but congratulations to you for completing it.
Also, what emulator do you use for fe6?
Thanks, I use Visual Boy Advance for the vast majority of my GB/A/C games
@@smaragdchaos hm, I just use the John GBA lite.
I also heavily rely on quick saves. I have blazing blade, and I arena abused Lyn so I can just not have her on maps that don't require her.
Now lets see fe1 vyland capped strength
Max Res Barth is the most terrifying General in the series
The most frustrating about Barth is that he will miss most of his attack and will get doubled by anything so it's a pain to train him
what's absolutely hysterical to get some perspective on how ridiculous this is, is looking at his averages compared to this.
so basically, in just one level going 1 res to 2 res, Barth gained an average 50 levels worth of Res.
also as of level 20, Barth is already a full 11 points over his average res, which at that point is still an average of 1.22
in the entirety of his 20/20 journey, barth is not supposed to get a single point of res, maxing out at a .6 increase.
Now i have a worst challenge,get a bard or dancer to get cap strength with only lvl ups
Meh, that's way easier than Barth. Less level ups to go through and much better growth rates.
It would be way easier ahah. You don't even need to risk their life :')
@@AriaFromMahabre Yeah, just do it in enemy cleared maps, there's nothing hard about this. I regularly grind dancers to level 20 like this. If the rule was to cap strength, it would just take longer.
I'd say it's more tedious than difficult.
This proves that barst is the best fire emblem unit
HOW!...
Final Boss Barth
Just how many retries did it take... :O
When I played FE6 on an emulator for the first time I was extremely disappointed with Shanna. All around she has amazing stats but the one thing she is lacking is dmg. She can fly anywhere, is fairly tanky and attacks almost everything twice with a high crit chance but with her STR and CON so low she simply does no dmg.
So whenever she leveled up I would use save states to make sure she always gets +1STR.
...
A couple chapters later the promoted Falcon Knight had 24 STR and 28 speed and could literally solo every mission.
I think I overdid it.
*Why are you so underrated?*
Holy shit, someone actually did it!
On a scale of 1 to Seth, how much did this Barth steamroll the rest of the game?
I never liked using Seth, for some reason. I don't even have anything about using early game prepromotes like Marcus, but I was just focused on training up Ross and the others, and by the time they were near trained he wasn't as good as them, so there was even a chapter or two I didn't field him. Leave it to me to not feed EXP to the only Jagen with good growths
@@aetherius6221 I wouldn't call Seth a Jagen if he has good growths, personally. To me, a Jagen is a unit that is extremely unlikely to get much better during the course of the game if you don't invest your stat boosters into them because they tend to have bad growths
@@matthewkuscienko4616 so he's a Seth Archetype? I mean I think the definition of a jagen is just your earliest prepromote but I guess you can say the Seth/Titania good growth jagens is like a sub-archetype
@@aetherius6221 What I mean is that going by what typically defines a character in a particular archetype, this would make Seth an outlier. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't your typical Jagens have such low growth rates that it's unlikely to see them get many, if any stats on a level up? In the sense that he's a powerful prepromote that you get at the beginning of the game, he fits that part of being a Jagen to a tee. But from what I've heard, most Jagens also are more of a breed of old, experienced warriors that have seen many battles and are now mentoring the younger generation, but have long since hit their peak, hence them not being able to often improve their stats much when they do level up. That's not to say Seth isn't a Jagen, but at the same time, I don't feel he really fits the mold of the archetype particularly well, given what I described
@@matthewkuscienko4616 yeah I agree, but the issue with making subdivisions within an Archetype (call them a Seth archetype) where does Marcus fit? He has pretty okay growths in defense, hp and skill and decent in other areas but his terrible room to grow and mediocre average of his growths comparatively makes him much worse in growths than growth units, but miles better than say FE11 jagen so which is he?
Gosh the general Lance crit animation is silly
If you thought it was ridiculous in this game, you need to see how much spinning of the damn thing they do before the attack in Fates. In that game, it's a wonder the enemy doesn't just dodge it!
I see quarantine hasn't been kind to you.
So I know you didn’t use RNG abuse, but is that allowed in the challenge?
I’m pretty sure from watching FE6 speedruns that the game and/or chapters start at a static RNG seed, which I could potentially use to TAS this.
I don't know. According to whoisthisgit, the only rules are to not use cheating devices or stat boosters. Depends if TASing is considered cheating or not in this specific case.
rng starting seed is always the same when started from power on or hard reset.
All that just for a congratulations and a crop top that can't take one round with a hammer.
Who needs Speed anyways?
Could have also edited his growths through FEBuilder or any other editing software.
Yeah, but honestly I don't really recommend doing that, it takes away much from the challenge. Using the vanilla game and save states is what gives this challenge the thrill of completing it. It gives you a sense of true accomplishment, similar to getting Merlinus to level 20 by having him dodge for hundreds of turns.
@@smaragdchaos That's not what I meant.
So how did you do it? Rng manipulation?
Since I'm getting this question a lot, I will include it in my description. All I used was save states. I undid bad levels and arena losses, and I only skipped turns to advance the RNG, which technically isn't RNG abuse, but obviously this kind of tampering is not possible on the real hardware.
Did you build supports by any chance? If so with who? I might try this myself
Astohl to A and Lilina to B
@@smaragdchaos interesting. I honestly was expecting wendy instead of Astohl. Also, out of curiousity, which name do you like better for the chapter 2 flier, Shanna or Thany?
@@stormyseas5193 I picked Astohl because that's a unit I consistently use, meanwhile Wendy is just another deadweight that I don't use anymore. Also, I prefer Shanna.
@@smaragdchaos i do agree that wendy is a bit of a deadweight, though however I personally find her speed to be the best out of the three if i do use any of them. Though i cant find any mobile roms that uses shanna instead of thany
@@stormyseas5193 Ehhh, generals are kinda crap in FE6, they cap speed at 21 (males) or 22 (females), meaning they're the only class besides wyvern lords to not double maxed out unpromoted units, plus lances and axes are mediocre in FE6. This is why I don't like Wendy very much. I used to like her a lot in normal mode and because she's so easy to raise in arena there, but she's just so bad in hard mode, it's very sad. Her only decent starting stat for her level is defense, and Bors has a huge lead on her, whereas Barth has at least usable starting stats for his join time. I actually don't use knights/generals anymore, because they hog the all-important knight's crests, which are used in promoting cavaliers, the far superior units in this game. I made an exception for Barth because 1. I didn't have access to hard mode and had to deal with normal mode, so gameplay ended up being very boring 2. I wanted to complete whoisthisgit's challenge, since nobody dared to do it or documented it, and because, like I said, I was really bored with normal mode.
I wonder how many heal/mend staff, elixir and vulnerary were broken/ in the making of this video.
Actually, good question. For arena abusing, I prefer to use regular heal staves (for their high durability) with a high level magic unit to raise their staff rank. I don't really keep track of how many heal staves are used per unit, but it's usually around 2 full staves broken and maybe something over it.
@@smaragdchaos well that quite a lot of uses then ^^
@@karosskaross8387 Well, yeah, but hey. On the positive side, my magic unit gets a lot of WExp out of it.
U deserve a sub, wowwww
thanks
Um... If you haven't modified Barth's growing stats, then you must exist in a superior reality where physics are absurd
Now make him get less defense
That was BEAUTIFUL.
every arena abuser in FE:
gold 9999999999999
Arena abusing makes so much money lol
Wow
Since when does Barth make an 80% hit
So out of curiosity, how many resets did you make for this to happen?
Too many to count. I've gone through hundreds, potentially thousands of battles, and even experienced rare events such as 1RN glitch of Barth not getting HP level ups with his 100% growth rate (can be watched in a separate video)
@@smaragdchaos Jesus christ, if only Barth didn't have a Resistance Growth to begin with, then you wouldn't suffer so much to make this video
@@owennelson5814 Frankly, I was kinda enjoying myself to a degree. In a way, it felt like farming for a rare drop in a MMORPG. That's the kind of mindset I had when I tackled this challenge, anyways. It takes quite a few hours to complete this challenge, one has to have the right mindset to do this without getting too frustrated over the many failed level ups and arena fights.
@@smaragdchaos I guess that's fair enough, besides, 2% could definately be worse.
Now do it in echoes
Soooo.... How many Barths were lost in the making of this video?
Hundreds, if not thousands... I really haven't kept track of it, but it was a lot of battles to go through, it's the longest I've spent on any character ever, lol.
How...?
This isn't really a challenge so much as it is a grind, and a tedious one at that. Which is potentially why you didn't find it anywhere. Back when I had Path of Radiance on the GameCube (man I wish I still had it) I did a run of the game where I used bonus Experience to give Ike perfect level ups every single level, which required a ton of resetting. Since then I've come to the realization that growths aren't the only thing that make a good unit... That if all characters were perfect units, none of them would be, and the game would be dull. This challenge actually demonstrates one thing I can't stand though... Why is it that armour knights in Fire Emblem have terrible resistance and speed? I get the speed, but they should be the tanks of the game in both regard! Three Houses is a big culprit of doing this. Even on Maddening mode, weak Mages can take out the most stalwart of Great Knights. Your own armoured units are usually pitiful in resistance unless you've pumped them full of stat boosters or if you've used a character normally a magic unit, and put him into armour. It's silly in my honest opinion.
I do commend you for having the patience for this.
Well, in the old games, it's explained that magic is the kind of force that pierces even the strongest armors, or something along those lines. I kinda understand the reasoning, but I wish we would get at least some highly resistant anomalies. Ffs, FE7 has an enemy knight boss known as Bauker, who has 12 resistance as a lvl 8 knight on hard mode... like how cool is that? We should get an allied version of that from time to time.
@@smaragdchaos
Oh absolutely agreed. It's one of the reasons Tauroneo is my favorite knight/general in the series. He's one of the only ones who joins you with competent magic stats, and his speed isn't even all that bad considering he has the resolve skill! But he's a complete anomaly. Other than him, I can't think of fast or resistant allied knight units you gain.
I thought Fire Emblem 6's missions all had a hidden 25-turn limit. How could you do this?
Who told you such nonsense? Chapters have no turn limit unless specified otherwise. It will stop registering extra turns after you reach 999th turn though
@@smaragdchaos I think it was a Let's Play? On the actual LP website. However, the same LPers had a number of statistical errors on Blazing Blade unit growths, so I should probably take whatever they say regarding "stuff not immediately visible to the player" with a grain of salt.
@@CiaranMaxwell I think you mean chapters 14 and 20. because you have to seize within 25 turns or less.
But... HOW?
ITS A FUCKIN 2% GROW
Save states, I undid bad levels. But even with this advantage, it took an absurd amount of time to complete this.
Hol up.....
hey, what is with the cuts?
What do you mean?
It is a 2% chance of level up res with this unit, obviously there are cuts.
no capped HP, bad unit
Don't you also find it frustrating that he has exactly 59 HP when reaching max level? Just 1 point away from maxing
This guy's name is really Barth? I get that it's probably short for Bartholomew, but that's still a very unfortunate name. It sounds like some 7-year-old kid trying to insult Marth.
Bartholomew JoJo Simpson
Congratulations
*You cursed your game*
So, I've got a question: did you use RNG manipulation?
I used the good old save state-skip bad turns method, which technically isn't RNG manipulation, but obviously it's doable only on an emulator. Even with this method though, it took a very long time to finish this challenge.
@@smaragdchaos I see. Congrats on doing this all the same!
@@smaragdchaos you could just refuse the fight and go to the arena again, it would save you some time (probably not enough to avoid fighting stuff for hours)
@@maskolino3533 This would've probably been much more time consuming and potentially confusing as well. Considering it took me well over 7 hours to do this challenge, I'd rather not add more time on top of it.
lol not even a dancer to speed things up?
17:14 33 STR Falcoknight?
No, it's actually more like 36 or 37 str Falcoknight because of my support bonuses adding extra defense.
@@smaragdchaos So do supports add a bit of everything and not just hit rate and evade rate like I initially thought then?
@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk Support bonuses depend on the affinity. My Barth had active A support with Astohl and B support with Lilina. Astohl has dark affinity, which doesn't affect defenses. Lilina and Barth both have affinities that increase defenses.
@@smaragdchaos Any idea of what the total bonuses are in this context?
@@JoelHernandez-tz3vk
Barth x Astohl A (Ice x Dark) gives +1 Def/Res, +15 Acc, +15 Avo, +15 CEv, +7 Crit
Barth x Lilina B (Ice x Light) gives +1 Atk, +2 Def/Res, +10 Acc, +5 Avo, +5 CEv, +5 Crit
Thus total bonuses are +1 Atk, +3 Def/Res, +25 Acc, +20 Av, +20 CEv and +12 Crit
I want Nintendo to port the GBA Fire Emblem games to the switch.
Download a gba emulator on your phone or your pc and download the game its called fire emblem the binding sword
@@giwrgosmpartsiwkas9292 I have them on my Game Boy, I just want them on the switch. And not remade please.
I wanted to see a res only level up