No they are not perfect. You cant perform infinite off the wall so instead characters are more subject heavy to landing. Yes you can still get away from some infinite but not just off the wall though. I would say marvel vs Streetfighter for Saturn is true to the arcade.
@@purpledonatello Actually the reason why you perform infinites off the walls is because capcom made changes to how the game was balanced when putting together port
They didn’t really change anything. The Saturn version is based on Version 3 of the arcade release which had removed a lot of the offending infinites and made balance changes. If you play the MvC Collection, you’ll notice that X-Men Vs. Street Fighter on there has all of the same balance and gameplay changes the Saturn version had as the ROM used there is revision 3. This is even stated on their website for the collection.
How i envy those who played X-Men vs. Street Fighter on the Japanese Saturn. If only Capcom could bring this back as well as the other games from the Marvel/Capcom crossover era as digital downloads for next-gen consoles.
They emulate beautifully on a PSP. Movelists & cheat support for using the bosses, too. CPS1, CPS2, NeoGeo, & NeoCD all run beautifully on the PSP using the emulation suite.
I got the Japanese version imported way back in the late 90's. It came with some kind of cartridge that you had to swap in and out with the 4MB ram cartridge and then it let the game play on a US machine. It was a little different than the arcade version. You could double up on very character (up to 4 of the same at once), so every character got 4 color variations instead of 2.
I had the import versions of X-Men vs SF , Darkstalkers 3, and Marvel vs SF with the 4 MB ram cart for my Saturn and let me tell all 3 were arcade perfect!
I imported the Saturn version back in the day. So glad I did. We all had tons of fun. I had to quickly switch the import converter with the RAM cart during initial loading at first, but eventually I got a device that was a 2 in 1. The PS1 version basically plays like Rival Schools but with different characters. The drop in animation is already bad, but if you turn off the music, even the voice sampling is low quality. I know this because a friend loaned me his copy (I felt so bad for him).
bombjack Gambit’s coat animation when standing still is actually just polygon texture rotation. Quite a few of the other animations just use a section of the textured polygon based sprites and either squash or stretch them to make it look like real animation.Juggernaut used a LOT of this, along with squash/stretch, and shifting parts of animations around.
@@leecroft1983 At least we got the PS version in the West. Unless you were Japanese or one of the 100 people who imported the game and a Japanese Saturn, you wouldn't have been playing the Saturn version in the 90s.
Until now, there was NO way to play X-Men Vs. Street Fighter in proper form without importing it and the RAM cart for the Saturn. And that’s IF you had even had one, or could find one to begin with. I had the pleasure of playing in a tournament with the Saturn version of that and Marvel Vs. Street Fighter, but that’s literally the ONLY time I’ve ever seen it IRL.
The PS1 version's intro was re-done in the style of the intro to Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter, which was a nice little touch. Even still, it suffered from slowdown like the rest of the port. XD Easily the worst 2D Capcom fighter port to PS1.
@@8-BitHero i wouldn't mind if they threw in marvel superheroes and X-men children of the atom and the capcom vs snk games in there too; that would be a legendary compilation of games specially if has online play
I still remember being stuck on the start screen, nobody told me I need a rom boost LOL, it was after I read it in Japanese gamer magazine that a rom boost cassette is required, it brings back a lot of great memories, my saturn and my childhood....thanks for the video, saturn FTW!
It's RAM, not ROM. ROM(Read Only Memory) refers to the actual game data files stored on ROM chips or an optical medium(ie CD). RAM(Random Access Memory) is where data is temporarily stored for immediate access. The Sega Saturn and the Sony Playstation had far too little RAM to properly run X-men vs Street Fighter. However with its cartridge expansion slot, Capcom was able to use a RAM expansion cart that essentially turned the Saturn into a CPS2 emulator. This is why X-men vs Street Fighter is essentially arcade perfect on the Saturn.
I was thinking, I wounder if I should mention you should've added the bootleg SNES version, soon as I had that thought "Bonus" popped up on screen and I knew what it was lol.
I would avoid the PS1 version of X-Men vs Street Fighter because in the PS1 version of the game, Capcom forgot to add the tag-in/tag-out your partner feature in the PS1 version of XMvSF.
They didn’t forget. The PS1 just couldn’t deal with it. It already struggled heavily with Marvel Superheroes. And originally the game wasn’t even going to be developed on there, but since the Saturn was all but dead in the US they needed something here. So reluctantly, it happened. Note how it’s called EX Edition in Japan.
I remember seeing a crowd of people at the local pizza place playing this game. When I saw it the first time, it was amazing. xmen vs street fighter?! This is one of the games that got me to buy a saturn when almost everyone I knew had ps1.
@@griffx It’s a shame the PlayStation couldn’t have had a RAM expansion cartridge like the Saturn got. Everyone could have played an arcade perfect game at home.
Near arcade perfect. There’s some LITTLE things on the Saturn version that stick out as being a bit off but for all intents and purposes it’s the full game the way it was meant to be.
I love the Sega Saturn version of this gem, since I have two copies of this gem, and Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter for the Sega Saturn. And I have two American models of the Sega Saturn. Model 1, and 2 for the Sega Saturn. And model 1 version of the Japanese version. I have the Action Replay Plus cartridge for the Sega Saturn, and 4mb ram cartridge for it, and 1mb ram cartridge too. I love playing this gem, since I played this at the arcades back then, when I was a teenager, and growing up. Loading times on this Sega Saturn is fast, and doesn't waste time. That's what I love about the Sega Saturn.😎👍
@@letsplayagame226 the Saturn version was never released outside of Japan (like most of its games), so you would had to import the game and that would come bundled with the RAM cart.
Man you KNEW the PS1 was in trouble when even the title screen showed signs of being cut back. Notice how unusually jagged one part of that background animation is and notice it doesn’t look like that on ANY other version. What’s also not mentioned in this comparison is how much they pixelated certain effects on that port too. Marvel Vs. Street Fighter got a better port, but truth be told much of that is probably due to even the arcade game cutting back animations by that point.
I played this on ps1 back in the day and thought it was good for what it was, but I had always assumed that it just lacked tag battle, wow they really had to cut a lot to get just 2 characters on the ps1 version. This one should have been brought here for Saturn because it could have really sold consoles.
I read that the 4MB cartridge makes MSH run even slower than the 1MB would. They should have gone back and optimized that and their other games to use it to bring a true arcade experience to the Saturn.
It would have been cool if Capcom brought the ram cartridge overseas along with X men vs street Fighter and their other 4mb games and made them exclusive to the Saturn! That would have given the Saturm a pretty nice advantage over the competition imo
My favorite fighting game ever! I wish Capcom had released an arcade port to the PS2 but sadly tha never happened...still I love spending hours playing this game on my LCD PSOne
Goes to show that SEGA makes superior consoles. BUT consumer response favors the PLAYSTATION. Same thing happened in the following generation of consoles. DREAMCAST is superior console BUT people still faithful to the PLAYSTATION 2. Then XBOX came in with almost same features of the DREAMCAST.
XBox was considerably better than the Dreamcast in every respect technically. And it’s not that the Saturn was better overall, it was better at different things.
The Playstation 1 version of x-men vs street fighter is the best because: a) there's less infinite combos (than arcade), making nearly every character competitive b) there's a super metre cheat (not on arcade) c) you can link super combos (can't link supers on the arcade) d) there's a 1 v 1 format (not arcade) e) you can swap if you go opposite players. f) there's more options than the arcade version. g) you can shorten the loading with the shortcut option. I can do the infinite combos on the arcade version and I feel bored doing them and winning, my opponent is just sitting there for 20 full seconds while I dominate them, it's not fun.
You realize that because of Super Cancelling certain characters were more broken on PS1 than they’d ever be on even the arcade game. Gambit literally can kill you off in two hits and 3 linked supers. And we’re not talking about something super difficult to do either. The less infinite combos thing is a lie. While it’s based on Version 3, even that still had a LOT of them. They just removed the more egregious ones. But even on that note, the Saturn version is based on version 3, and so is the recent MvC Fighting Collection.
@Darknight0681 I can do the long drawn out combos on the arcade version. I don't have fun doing them even when I win. gambits super three times doesn't kill in one combo, takes you down 80- 85% I can do a one hit kill with sabretooth on ps1. I have more fun still with the ps1 version. I'd still go someone like akuma who's supers don't hit hard. you can adjust the health to more on the ps1 version.
@Darknight0681 wrong, the body falls to the ground faster, and you can't hit somebody off the wall it's completely removed, you lied. the infinite combos only work against big opponents like juggernaut which none of us played very often and dhalsim (maybe after his teleport) which is boring to do and even in tournaments pro players drop the combos on the arcade version. you know nothing yet you pretend you do.
In Japan, it's either the original arcade or the Sega Saturn version. Outside Japan, it's either the original arcade or nothing. Stay away from the PS1 port, since that one is abysmal.
ProtoMancave Saturn was capable of up to 64 bit instructions. Had a 56.7 MHZ Clockspeed, 8 MBs max VRAM averaging 4 MBs, used 2 32-bit Registers, was capable of Bit Mapping and Recaculation as well as Sprite Redrawing and Diffission.
@@plawson8577 Right, and like I said none of that matters because it's only numbers and the system is horribly crippled by it's multi-processor architecture and horrible motherboard design. Not a single game on the Saturn demonstrates those numbers because again, the system is horribly designed.
ProtoMancave No it’s not. That’s just hyperbole and it’s pretty shallow that you liked your own comment. The Saturn is FAR less difficult to program than PS2 and PS3. Saturn is a actually capable of features PS1 simply isn’t. Especially in the Mapping and Texturing department. You seriously need to get over your own one sided bias and fanboyism. PS1 actually handled 3D design very poorly and primitively. For one it can’t even handle Affines correctly, for two, it relies too much on Bilinear Filtering and Distortion which is why so many titles look so grainy,blocky and sloppy. And as for “Lighting”? No. It can’t actually handle Light Sourcing. It uses mostly Half Transparency but that’s entirely through a Screen Filtering Trick using low Illumination and MPEG buffering. It’s not actual Transparency. Also FYI, Saturn’s core design wasn’t even finished. It’s Taping was rushed 4 months too early.
I still like the PS1 version. It’s low spec so it’s easy to emulate. The only thing that truly sucks is no PS1 emulators natively support the DualShock 4 so getting multiplayer without DS4Windows is impossible. Also, I’m realizing that PlayStation consoles didn’t get a good Marvel port until the PS3. Damn lmao
Neither system actually did sprites y that point. Saturn used textured quads the same way the PS1 used textured polygons. The big difference is that the Saturn could actually do the classic raster based backgrounds the way those systems before it did it. This is why Alpha 2 could have Gen’s stage do the reflections identically to the arcade, and how Shuma Gorath’s chaos dimension made it over 100% intact whereas on PS1 its fade to black. The Saturn could also do true rowscrolling in the backgrounds. If the PS1 did anything like that, for example with floors, it was always a textured polygon ground.
Why Capcom even bothered releasing this trash version on PS1, I'll never understand. If you have to cut out the entire purpose of the game (tag team), then what is the point?! I always wondered what morons purchased the PS1 version, as I owned the Saturn version import😆😂🤣
SHIN BAKI HANMA Just like how not many people knew what the saturn was back then even less people owned it at release. Not many people had a choice at the time. You gotta have the mentality of what it was like back then. Not how it is now.
@@ThatOldSchoolMagic Nah, even if I didn't have a Saturn back then, I still wouldn't buy trash ports like XMEN VS SF on PS1. You ALWAYS have a choice. The tag team mechanic was missing The whole point of the game was left out. What is the point of even buying or playing it?! Don't defend idiocy with tired excuses😂🤣😆
Lack of RAM and fillrate along with the fact said console wasn’t really designed to push that kind of visual aesthetic to begin with. It’s pretty much similar to why PCs struggled with 2D sprite based games up until the processors got into the 100+ mhz territory. It didn’t have the hardware to do that.
3rd world countries and their unplayable ports. Why bother? LOL. Anyway this is probably my favorite fighter, ever. Needs a console release for current systems, and needs someone competent to convert it. As we know if a conversion has even one frame extra lag compared to the original release, it's dead.
I've had both of Saturn versions back in day. The x Men vs Streetfighter is not arcade perfect. You can't perform infinite off the wall and characters tend not to bounce away. Give it a try your opponent will tend land awkward like they got some weight on them. This is more dissapointing reason why I sold this game.
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I received the Saturn editions of both X-Men vs. SF and Marvel SH vs. SF and they definitely are near perfect arcade ports! awesome titles!
No they are not perfect. You cant perform infinite off the wall so instead characters are more subject heavy to landing. Yes you can still get away from some infinite but not just off the wall though. I would say marvel vs Streetfighter for Saturn is true to the arcade.
@@purpledonatello Actually the reason why you perform infinites off the walls is because capcom made changes to how the game was balanced when putting together port
They didn’t really change anything. The Saturn version is based on Version 3 of the arcade release which had removed a lot of the offending infinites and made balance changes. If you play the MvC Collection, you’ll notice that X-Men Vs. Street Fighter on there has all of the same balance and gameplay changes the Saturn version had as the ROM used there is revision 3. This is even stated on their website for the collection.
Just bought this for my Sega Saturn, can’t wait !!!
Aww couldn't wait for Disney & Marvel to re-release this could you?
@@boru25 they will never do. And saturn version plays perfectly anyway
@@drunkensailor112never say never
Your comparisons are amazing!
How i envy those who played X-Men vs. Street Fighter on the Japanese Saturn.
If only Capcom could bring this back as well as the other games from the Marvel/Capcom crossover era as digital downloads for next-gen consoles.
They emulate beautifully on a PSP. Movelists & cheat support for using the bosses, too. CPS1, CPS2, NeoGeo, & NeoCD all run beautifully on the PSP using the emulation suite.
You don't need a Japanese Saturn to play X-Men vs Street Fighter. You just need to find a way to hard or soft mod the console.
@@the757general2 yeah but the gray looks so much better than black.
I got the Japanese version imported way back in the late 90's. It came with some kind of cartridge that you had to swap in and out with the 4MB ram cartridge and then it let the game play on a US machine. It was a little different than the arcade version. You could double up on very character (up to 4 of the same at once), so every character got 4 color variations instead of 2.
Wish granted
Great video. I was playing this today actually. It still looks great.
great analysis and I am glad you showed via original aspect ratio + scanlines (so many stretched gameplays on youtube :( )
Love the analysis. Keep it up! Well done!
I had the import versions of X-Men vs SF , Darkstalkers 3, and Marvel vs SF with the 4 MB ram cart for my Saturn and let me tell all 3 were arcade perfect!
I imported the Saturn version back in the day. So glad I did. We all had tons of fun. I had to quickly switch the import converter with the RAM cart during initial loading at first, but eventually I got a device that was a 2 in 1.
The PS1 version basically plays like Rival Schools but with different characters. The drop in animation is already bad, but if you turn off the music, even the voice sampling is low quality. I know this because a friend loaned me his copy (I felt so bad for him).
Arcade1up needs to release a Marvel vs Capcom cabinet with X-Men vs Street Fighter and Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighter
Welp they are
They just did
Boy do I have news for you
Agree as together not separate
What a good comparison, subscribed. 😀
That's an interesting effect on PS1 to warp sprites to simulate animation, much better than having zero or little animation.
bombjack Gambit’s coat animation when standing still is actually just polygon texture rotation. Quite a few of the other animations just use a section of the textured polygon based sprites and either squash or stretch them to make it look like real animation.Juggernaut used a LOT of this, along with squash/stretch, and shifting parts of animations around.
bombjack I’ll stick to my Saturn version.
@@leecroft1983
At least we got the PS version in the West. Unless you were Japanese or one of the 100 people who imported the game and a Japanese Saturn, you wouldn't have been playing the Saturn version in the 90s.
Until now, there was NO way to play X-Men Vs. Street Fighter in proper form without importing it and the RAM cart for the Saturn. And that’s IF you had even had one, or could find one to begin with. I had the pleasure of playing in a tournament with the Saturn version of that and Marvel Vs. Street Fighter, but that’s literally the ONLY time I’ve ever seen it IRL.
9:00 that timing with the music
Nice video, and awesome intro!
I loved my Saturn. I’m thinking of tracking one down and buy it again!
The PS1 version's intro was re-done in the style of the intro to Marvel Super Heroes Vs. Street Fighter, which was a nice little touch. Even still, it suffered from slowdown like the rest of the port. XD Easily the worst 2D Capcom fighter port to PS1.
I wish Marvel would let Capcom release a VS collection. XVsSF and MSHvSF never got a proper console port, outside of the Saturn releases.
Licensing... that’s what keeping that from happening.
@@Ryuujin1078 I know that, but since Capcom and Disney are talking, a Vs collection should happen.
@@8-BitHero i wouldn't mind if they threw in marvel superheroes and X-men children of the atom and the capcom vs snk games in there too; that would be a legendary compilation of games specially if has online play
It’s out! Go get it!
Great VIdeo! I really like it. Well done
Excellent video!
I still remember being stuck on the start screen, nobody told me I need a rom boost LOL, it was after I read it in Japanese gamer magazine that a rom boost cassette is required, it brings back a lot of great memories, my saturn and my childhood....thanks for the video, saturn FTW!
It's RAM, not ROM. ROM(Read Only Memory) refers to the actual game data files stored on ROM chips or an optical medium(ie CD). RAM(Random Access Memory) is where data is temporarily stored for immediate access.
The Sega Saturn and the Sony Playstation had far too little RAM to properly run X-men vs Street Fighter. However with its cartridge expansion slot, Capcom was able to use a RAM expansion cart that essentially turned the Saturn into a CPS2 emulator. This is why X-men vs Street Fighter is essentially arcade perfect on the Saturn.
I was thinking, I wounder if I should mention you should've added the bootleg SNES version, soon as I had that thought "Bonus" popped up on screen and I knew what it was lol.
Thank you for these videos.
Glad I checked back here. thanks for updating.
I would avoid the PS1 version of X-Men vs Street Fighter because in the PS1 version of the game, Capcom forgot to add the tag-in/tag-out your partner feature in the PS1 version of XMvSF.
They didn’t forget. It had something to do with ps1’s ram cartridge that couldn’t handle it.
@@benknowsit9155
The PSX doesn't use an extra ram cartridge, that's the cheater Saturn.
Lol of course, silly Capcom, always forgetting to add all the animation frames and to port the whole game to other systems
They didn’t forget. The PS1 just couldn’t deal with it. It already struggled heavily with Marvel Superheroes. And originally the game wasn’t even going to be developed on there, but since the Saturn was all but dead in the US they needed something here. So reluctantly, it happened. Note how it’s called EX Edition in Japan.
I remember seeing a crowd of people at the local pizza place playing this game. When I saw it the first time, it was amazing. xmen vs street fighter?! This is one of the games that got me to buy a saturn when almost everyone I knew had ps1.
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The Saturn version is probably the best port of arcade perfect in my opinion.
It’s basically an arcade perfect port of Version 3
@@griffx It’s a shame the PlayStation couldn’t have had a RAM expansion cartridge like the Saturn got. Everyone could have played an arcade perfect game at home.
Soulcalibur on the Dreamcast was beyond arcade perfect.
Near arcade perfect. There’s some LITTLE things on the Saturn version that stick out as being a bit off but for all intents and purposes it’s the full game the way it was meant to be.
I love the Sega Saturn version of this gem, since I have two copies of this gem, and Marvel Super Heroes Vs Street Fighter for the Sega Saturn. And I have two American models of the Sega Saturn. Model 1, and 2 for the Sega Saturn. And model 1 version of the Japanese version. I have the Action Replay Plus cartridge for the Sega Saturn, and 4mb ram cartridge for it, and 1mb ram cartridge too. I love playing this gem, since I played this at the arcades back then, when I was a teenager, and growing up. Loading times on this Sega Saturn is fast, and doesn't waste time. That's what I love about the Sega Saturn.😎👍
Saturn had perfect arcade game, but - 4MB extention wasn't easy to get or cheap.
It came bundled with the game so it couldn't be easier to get if you wanted to have this game.
PS: Assuming you'd be using official game discs.
@@Gladson outside Japan?
@@letsplayagame226 the Saturn version was never released outside of Japan (like most of its games), so you would had to import the game and that would come bundled with the RAM cart.
@@Gladson so it wasn't easy to get. My original point.
@@letsplayagame226 no, you said the 4MB expansion wasn't easy to get, not that the game wasn't easy to get.
*SEGA SATURN is King* ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
I’d love to see another collection that includes the VS series for home consoles.
Just released last month digitally. And it’s pretty damn great!
Man you KNEW the PS1 was in trouble when even the title screen showed signs of being cut back. Notice how unusually jagged one part of that background animation is and notice it doesn’t look like that on ANY other version. What’s also not mentioned in this comparison is how much they pixelated certain effects on that port too. Marvel Vs. Street Fighter got a better port, but truth be told much of that is probably due to even the arcade game cutting back animations by that point.
Very good job , I want to see Marvel super herose vs street fighter and Marvel vs capcom , Vampier savior, your job is perfact , thank’s.
hyper chun li??? whats diferent about her?
Perfect Sega saturn forever arcade
we need a remake of all these awesome Japanese games
Aleluia um video, keep it up
I have been playing my copy of EX-Edition right up until this year! WELCOME HOME SEGA SATURN!!!
😮😮WOW😮😮
I played this on ps1 back in the day and thought it was good for what it was, but I had always assumed that it just lacked tag battle, wow they really had to cut a lot to get just 2 characters on the ps1 version. This one should have been brought here for Saturn because it could have really sold consoles.
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Why ps1 versión don't have team battles
Because of its small memory
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why does saturn have a japanese interface but arcade is in english
Based on this analysis, it's safe to say the PS1 version... sucked! 😖 Go Saturn! 👍
I played the PS1 version for 3-4 hours earlier today and I gotta say, I enjoyed every second of it! Not a perfect port but super fun nonetheless
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Based on the Analysis, its safe to say the SNES version... is the Best of all time! 😁 Go Nintendo!
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If you enjoy it. Screw what anyone else says. You do you 👍
Based on this analysis, the 4MB RAM expansion is what makes the real difference.
biba koku.
Saturn is very arcade perfect with Ram Cart..
Well, the 4MB one.
I hope to see Marvel Super Heroes using 4MB cartridge
I read that the 4MB cartridge makes MSH run even slower than the 1MB would. They should have gone back and optimized that and their other games to use it to bring a true arcade experience to the Saturn.
@@icekokoro2708 You've read wrong because that's blatantly false.
It would have been cool if Capcom brought the ram cartridge overseas along with X men vs street Fighter and their other 4mb games and made them exclusive to the Saturn! That would have given the Saturm a pretty nice advantage over the competition imo
Sega already pulled out of the US with the Saturn by that point though, so it would’ve been moot.
The fact the Saturn acted like the CP System II…
My favorite fighting game ever! I wish Capcom had released an arcade port to the PS2 but sadly tha never happened...still I love spending hours playing this game on my LCD PSOne
I play on Retroarch with the MAME core and scaliness. Arcade 100% perfect. Try it.
I got this game on the PS1 version but if not the same.
Goes to show that SEGA makes superior consoles.
BUT consumer response favors the PLAYSTATION.
Same thing happened in the following generation of consoles.
DREAMCAST is superior console BUT people still faithful to the PLAYSTATION 2.
Then XBOX came in with almost same features of the DREAMCAST.
XBox was considerably better than the Dreamcast in every respect technically. And it’s not that the Saturn was better overall, it was better at different things.
Moral of the story: Playstation sucks, and Saturn kicks ass!
TH-cam doesn't like that screen filter!
The Playstation 1 version of x-men vs street fighter is the best because:
a) there's less infinite combos (than arcade), making nearly every character competitive
b) there's a super metre cheat (not on arcade)
c) you can link super combos (can't link supers on the arcade)
d) there's a 1 v 1 format (not arcade)
e) you can swap if you go opposite players.
f) there's more options than the arcade version.
g) you can shorten the loading with the shortcut option.
I can do the infinite combos on the arcade version and I feel bored doing them and winning, my opponent is just sitting there for 20 full seconds while I dominate them, it's not fun.
You realize that because of Super Cancelling certain characters were more broken on PS1 than they’d ever be on even the arcade game. Gambit literally can kill you off in two hits and 3 linked supers. And we’re not talking about something super difficult to do either. The less infinite combos thing is a lie. While it’s based on Version 3, even that still had a LOT of them. They just removed the more egregious ones. But even on that note, the Saturn version is based on version 3, and so is the recent MvC Fighting Collection.
@Darknight0681 I can do the long drawn out combos on the arcade version. I don't have fun doing them even when I win. gambits super three times doesn't kill in one combo, takes you down 80- 85% I can do a one hit kill with sabretooth on ps1. I have more fun still with the ps1 version. I'd still go someone like akuma who's supers don't hit hard. you can adjust the health to more on the ps1 version.
@Darknight0681 wrong, the body falls to the ground faster, and you can't hit somebody off the wall it's completely removed, you lied. the infinite combos only work against big opponents like juggernaut which none of us played very often and dhalsim (maybe after his teleport) which is boring to do and even in tournaments pro players drop the combos on the arcade version. you know nothing yet you pretend you do.
In Japan, it's either the original arcade or the Sega Saturn version.
Outside Japan, it's either the original arcade or nothing.
Stay away from the PS1 port, since that one is abysmal.
i have the ps1 and SNES versions XD
Saturn was a 2D monster.
It wasn't really much more powerful than the PS1 in terms of 2D rendering. the real and obvious difference here is the 4MB expansion cart.
Saturn had Twice PS1’s Power. It was better at 3D as well.
ProtoMancave Saturn was capable of up to 64 bit instructions. Had a 56.7 MHZ Clockspeed, 8 MBs max VRAM averaging 4 MBs, used 2 32-bit Registers, was capable of Bit Mapping and Recaculation as well as Sprite Redrawing and Diffission.
@@plawson8577 Right, and like I said none of that matters because it's only numbers and the system is horribly crippled by it's multi-processor architecture and horrible motherboard design. Not a single game on the Saturn demonstrates those numbers because again, the system is horribly designed.
ProtoMancave No it’s not. That’s just hyperbole and it’s pretty shallow that you liked your own comment. The Saturn is FAR less difficult to program than PS2 and PS3. Saturn is a actually capable of features PS1 simply isn’t. Especially in the Mapping and Texturing department. You seriously need to get over your own one sided bias and fanboyism. PS1 actually handled 3D design very poorly and primitively. For one it can’t even handle Affines correctly, for two, it relies too much on Bilinear Filtering and Distortion which is why so many titles look so grainy,blocky and sloppy. And as for “Lighting”? No. It can’t actually handle Light Sourcing. It uses mostly Half Transparency but that’s entirely through a Screen Filtering Trick using low Illumination and MPEG buffering. It’s not actual Transparency. Also FYI, Saturn’s core design wasn’t even finished. It’s Taping was rushed 4 months too early.
I still like the PS1 version. It’s low spec so it’s easy to emulate. The only thing that truly sucks is no PS1 emulators natively support the DualShock 4 so getting multiplayer without DS4Windows is impossible. Also, I’m realizing that PlayStation consoles didn’t get a good Marvel port until the PS3. Damn lmao
When it came to 2D sprites the sega saturn stomped the psx.
Neither system actually did sprites y that point. Saturn used textured quads the same way the PS1 used textured polygons. The big difference is that the Saturn could actually do the classic raster based backgrounds the way those systems before it did it. This is why Alpha 2 could have Gen’s stage do the reflections identically to the arcade, and how Shuma Gorath’s chaos dimension made it over 100% intact whereas on PS1 its fade to black. The Saturn could also do true rowscrolling in the backgrounds. If the PS1 did anything like that, for example with floors, it was always a textured polygon ground.
Juggernaut literally doesn't move on the characters select screen on ps1.
This was nowhere near a fair comparison
"Removing [the tag team] feature makes the game almost pointless".
Why? Last time I checked people liked X-Men:COTA and MSH.
Why wasn’t this mass produced for sega gen? I hate the ps port
Why is the ps1 port so bad???
is a good port
La versión de Saturn es la mejorm tiene 2 colores extras unicos 👍
Why Capcom even bothered releasing this trash version on PS1, I'll never understand. If you have to cut out the entire purpose of the game (tag team), then what is the point?! I always wondered what morons purchased the PS1 version, as I owned the Saturn version import😆😂🤣
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Just like how not many people knew what the saturn was back then even less people owned it at release.
Not many people had a choice at the time. You gotta have the mentality of what it was like back then. Not how it is now.
@@ThatOldSchoolMagic Nah, even if I didn't have a Saturn back then, I still wouldn't buy trash ports like XMEN VS SF on PS1. You ALWAYS have a choice. The tag team mechanic was missing The whole point of the game was left out. What is the point of even buying or playing it?! Don't defend idiocy with tired excuses😂🤣😆
Marketshare couldn’t be denied, regardless of the lack of RAM.
The same as the point of every single other fighting game before and after that doesn't have the tag team mechanic.
I wonder why a 3d capable console has such problems running 2d games
Lack of RAM and fillrate along with the fact said console wasn’t really designed to push that kind of visual aesthetic to begin with. It’s pretty much similar to why PCs struggled with 2D sprite based games up until the processors got into the 100+ mhz territory. It didn’t have the hardware to do that.
the SNES port was really janky.
Of course it was, it wasn’t even official.
3rd world countries and their unplayable ports. Why bother? LOL.
Anyway this is probably my favorite fighter, ever. Needs a console release for current systems, and needs someone competent to convert it. As we know if a conversion has even one frame extra lag compared to the original release, it's dead.
HANDS DOWN the SNES version is best.
...at making us laugh. ;)
I've had both of Saturn versions back in day. The x Men vs Streetfighter is not arcade perfect. You can't perform infinite off the wall and characters tend not to bounce away. Give it a try your opponent will tend land awkward like they got some weight on them. This is more dissapointing reason why I sold this game.
Saturn version was based on revision 3 of the arcade game. That’s why a lot of your infinites didn’t work.
The SNES was by far the best
Straight facts!
Snes version is better than PS1.
Ps1 Wins
Both trash compared to arcade CPS2
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