Wow I know something Fu doesn't...actually park guys ride a lower BB bc its closer to the ground and more stable for jumping and catching whips. Higher BB is for street, higher hops bc of body placement, and sprocket clearance like Ethan said. Very good insight, everyone support Epic for being a strictly BMX shop, and supporting riders such as ethan and giving them jobs. So dope hope it last for another 20 + yrs. 🤘
Phu you should talk about what could make your back wheel crooked. When I first started riding I didn't know what to buy and got a right hand drive but my right foot is forward. I think it would help to talk about weight distribution and the effectiveness of spacers and other things you could do to keep your back wheel straight without using tensioners. Thanks man love the content!
@@AlfredoMancuso excellent! I had so many problems with slippage and im not positive if it was bc of paint either so adding in other ways that there could be slippage might help also. Thanks man keep on educating the masses!!
So many questions... Where did foo get the pipe from? Does he even give his employees lunch breaks besides the on camera stuff? Is that a bmx shop or sweat shop? 😂😂😂 These videos are dope, thanks homies
Almost baught a new frame a couple months ago and wasn't sure what to get, then I rode a 2017 GT performer and can wheelie walk it forever, I went from only being able to get 6 or 7 pedals to 16 or 17, so I'm probably going to base my next bike off of this frames geometry
Panda has the seat tube seat goes over the rear axle the longest in the industry. big guys love this. Better on the turns, seat pushes on thighs for control,
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
I believe the stand over height is measured from the top of the crank because when you are standing on the pedals your feet are at the top side of the crank
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
Nice videos..quiero una de Las bisicleta armadas por usted..me have recordar mi infancia ..cuando pinta a.cambiaba frenos.asientoa ami primera bisicleta una bmx bimex del 83.
Great info, thanks guys. I'm beginner, going to buy my first bmx. I had a dirt bmx which was 33 lbs (15kg) way too heavy for me, and strange geometry - wasn't able to pick it up. So I would love to have a lighter bike to easily bunny hop, and spin, fakie, footjam basic stuff like that, maybe later some flatland stuff. I'm 5,34 tall (163cm). Could you please give me some advice, what geometry would ease my way to learn those? Thinking about W.T.P and Sunday....their beginner bikes looks lighter than the others. What frame size, other length would be better if I have no possibility to try the bike before buy here in my country. :( Thanks for any useful advice.
Who am I to say, but I feel like the standover height should be from the floor to the top of the top tube. That's how it is measured in every other bike scenario. But in BMX, it's basically the size of the seat tube. Not sure why they use "standover" as opposed to just "seat tube length".
I have some kinda virus, temperature ... Its not covid btw. Am layin in bed for 5 days and literaly doing nothing, just watching youtube, you and ryan taylor...
75 is more all around and park. Less than 75 dirt and jumps, more than 75 is street/flatland. Race frames hit 74 area. My Subrosa arum has higher bb and my new fit TRL is lower.
purple ftw homie lol I got green trades..... Thank you, thank you, thank you!! this is exactly what I was wanting to know about responsiveness .. you guys are the fuckin best
Noob here. Haro Boulevard 2021, Full Hi-Ten frame. I’m 5’11, 200lbs. Like street cruising with occasional curb jumps, ramping & bunny hops. Any thoughts?
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
So how do Sundays 29er High C, get such a Short Chainstay but a tall Seat tube? Brands like SE and GT run a tall seat tube but forced to go with a long chainstay? Sounds confusing correct???
I'm new to BMX and I've got a question about my second hand BMX. It seems that the circumference of my top tube and down tube is much larger than on the BMXs I generally see on the internet, like in this video. The circumference of the tubes is roughly: 7,4 inch top tube and 8,2 inch down tube. As this seems so uncommon, with what kind of BMX am I dealing here?
no offense alf, but you have nice cars and a 1998 camera? seriously? get something that can focus man, i love all the epic bmx videos you guys do btw, no hater here!
They need to have a bmx racer and freestyle there to really tell how much of a difference the geometry makes along with riders height also makes a difference. Like how a shorter rider can easily ride a bike with a CS length of 12.7 and not loop out so easily as someone 6’1 or above. Also try riding a bike with a 75.5 degree head tube and try racing it on a bmx track when you hit the jumps it’s harder leveling out the bike as with a 74 degree or even a 73 degree angle you can just coast over. Also how racing bmx bike are like 21.5 and over in toptube length with a long backend starting at 15 inch. All this is similar to skateboard longboards, motorcycle Hayabusa. The only people who say it doesn’t really matter is shorter riders who seem to ride 21 inch top tubes when they could still barspin with 20.5.
Race frames are typically longer and shorter for more agility, where as dirt jumping and cruiser frames are typically much bigger and allow more leg extension for comfort.
So i got a R25 forks 180mm on a fly savannah 4.45 headtube. I have to use a lot of spacers. Can I still ride fine or should I look for a frame with a taller headtube to make up for the form height? Or does it not make that much of a difference ?
the chaistay length depends on your height also. ethan seems somewhat lanky, and of course he prefers a longer chainstay (not only longer top tube) than someone like Chad Kerley, cause his butt (and center of gravity) goes father back when he pulls the bar up. i really appreciate the video, especially the input of a pro, but boy, i think me, as a rough beginner, can explain most of this stuff better. Alfredo, which spoke the least, was the most coherent. worth mentioning that a higher bb will also require a higher front end, cause it sucks to have a high bb and pull on low bars (also, i doubt park riders have high bb's, like Phu mentions, since they need stability)
High bottom brackets make manuals easier. For catwalks low helps cause leg extension. But high still helps. Headtube height also affects headset bearings. More stable less deflection. Also helps with strength. Seat tube angle can also help. Also fly has always had options with short rear ends. Tierra and others. Only a few frames had long rear ends and it was like 13.75 which used to be standard. 11.5-11.8 is usually the amount of play you have on height. 74.5 used to be standard headtube angle. Seat tube is like 71 or 72.
@ryan sullivan if a bike has an 11.5 bb I literally can't even hop the fucking thing. Low bottom brackets is the most disgusting feeling in the world for me.
It's funny to see people get caught up in top tube size and all that.... I'm 6'3" people say I need a 21" TT but I also have a 20.75" TT and after it was built up the 20.75 has a longer wheel base and is actually front stem to drop outs it is still a big difference in size even though the TT dimensions are different they both ride absolutely different to each other.
Moutain bike forks on new rides before circa 2025 much love for traditional style I think some of those frames with new forks would be very fun. Dirt jumper style is cool but the geometry of traditional bmx or radling was you guys huge fan from Illinois, godspeed friends I also ride a 20inch traditional bike
Backwards manual all day?!? Hell, I’m trying to forward manual longer than a bike length 😂😂😂. Ok, I ride a 22 and it’s got a pretty long CS. I need to do a half link and slam the rear a bit more. 👍
I still don't like the steep head tube angles of modern geometry..I'd take an old 73-72 deg head tube anyday over modern design...I've even looked at using a bmx(race, like actual bmx)frame...I wish we could use a different word like we used to say freestyle...which sounds seriously dated...but fits better.
Someday you guys are going to be called Taylor's to get a person in the right bike, something like a suit tailor, you'll say sir you're this tall I think this is the right bike for you or something like that
donut media in the back 😂
I noticed it too lol
Yooooooo
Mo powa baby
Where I can't see
@@d3thcorenebula436 Lol the TV on the wall in the background.
Wow I know something Fu doesn't...actually park guys ride a lower BB bc its closer to the ground and more stable for jumping and catching whips. Higher BB is for street, higher hops bc of body placement, and sprocket clearance like Ethan said. Very good insight, everyone support Epic for being a strictly BMX shop, and supporting riders such as ethan and giving them jobs. So dope hope it last for another 20 + yrs. 🤘
Exactly
Wow bro mind blown. Higher hops has me sold on higher bottom bracket thanks for the insight
Phu should do a segment on iconic bikes/frames from over the years. I really liked the frame evolution video he did for The Come Up Bmx channel 🚲
Yup that’s on the list!
@@AlfredoMancuso sweet! 🤙
Phu is the man! Keep em cominggg
Man his bike looks so much better with those new wheels on it.
I Always Watch Your Video So nice
From 🇵🇭
That bike is clean af.
Also love this guy from epic ...he is epic...in bmx...also the swag guy...
PHU is coo
Hey Alf sending love and support form the Philippines
Much love right back at you!
Here also support alfred from philippine cebu..love bmx i have mine also
Phu you should talk about what could make your back wheel crooked. When I first started riding I didn't know what to buy and got a right hand drive but my right foot is forward. I think it would help to talk about weight distribution and the effectiveness of spacers and other things you could do to keep your back wheel straight without using tensioners. Thanks man love the content!
Paint slippage. We’re addressing this next week
@@AlfredoMancuso excellent! I had so many problems with slippage and im not positive if it was bc of paint either so adding in other ways that there could be slippage might help also. Thanks man keep on educating the masses!!
I just got Ethans frame, stoked to build it up
That ending 😂😂😂 great info. Sorry I missed the rest of vids recently dude. Blew both engines in my cars and hella busy 😂 now I can binge watch tho 👍🏼
Dude all good! Hope you got it all fixed up!
@@AlfredoMancuso in time. At least I’ll have to ride more now 😆👍🏼
So many videos this week life is good
Many more to come :))
Great info! Thanks Brochachi!
My pleasure 🙏🏻☺️
Been loving that bsd safari frame!
Back to back! Thanks brochachi!
Dazzz right!
Donut media playing in the background tv! 😎🚘
Good eye!
So many questions...
Where did foo get the pipe from? Does he even give his employees lunch breaks besides the on camera stuff? Is that a bmx shop or sweat shop?
😂😂😂 These videos are dope, thanks homies
That’s the pole he uses when someone’s asks for a paid break 😂
The end though 🤣🔥
Big thanks for this video bro I really needed the info haha💯💯🙏
Hellya man!
Just in time!
Yeeeeee
can you do a video about how to fix your freecoaster for not slipping and making noise when you're pedalling?
Nice bike :)
Top tube and chain stay is what I look for on a frame , 13.5 on chain stay and 20.6/20.75 on my top tube is the sweet spot for me..
nerd
Good knowledge !
Almost baught a new frame a couple months ago and wasn't sure what to get, then I rode a 2017 GT performer and can wheelie walk it forever, I went from only being able to get 6 or 7 pedals to 16 or 17, so I'm probably going to base my next bike off of this frames geometry
Phu is the joe rogan of Bikes !!!!!
Hahahaha never thought of that
Panda has the seat tube seat goes over the rear axle the longest in the industry. big guys love this. Better on the turns, seat pushes on thighs for control,
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
That purple and gold Fit looks sweet.... what model is thst frame?
Oh, and would a shorter chainstay be good for a shorter rider?
Epic bro!
was he in the marines ? the way he explains stuff gives me instructor vibes idk
He's bald duh
@@dannyperles4141 what does that have to do with anything lol and who are u talkin bout cause i see a full head of hair on that man
@@scubabrando4939 prolly Ethan bud but the original commenter meant phu so none of this makes sense
The purp and yellow on ethan's bike reminds me of ube and keso
A lot of us do follow exactly what you say because we’d rather buy online than talk to a human at a bike shop in real life
I believe the stand over height is measured from the top of the crank because when you are standing on the pedals your feet are at the top side of the crank
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
Lol 18:43 I came into epic asking Phu to install my sprocket after watching a tech Thursday and not getting it
Nice videos..quiero una de Las bisicleta armadas por usted..me have recordar mi infancia ..cuando pinta a.cambiaba frenos.asientoa ami primera bisicleta una bmx bimex del 83.
Is that jazz music 🎷 playing in the background
Smooth jazz
Donut Media playing in background lol
Good ass content, over at DM
wow
Hey what color is that bike?. I love the color. I'd like it for my 97 Vertigo.
Love the videos. Down home family fun
Deep purple!
Great info, thanks guys. I'm beginner, going to buy my first bmx. I had a dirt bmx which was 33 lbs (15kg) way too heavy for me, and strange geometry - wasn't able to pick it up. So I would love to have a lighter bike to easily bunny hop, and spin, fakie, footjam basic stuff like that, maybe later some flatland stuff.
I'm 5,34 tall (163cm).
Could you please give me some advice, what geometry would ease my way to learn those?
Thinking about W.T.P and Sunday....their beginner bikes looks lighter than the others.
What frame size, other length would be better if I have no possibility to try the bike before buy here in my country. :( Thanks for any useful advice.
How do I measure the diameter of my back axel to get the right size pegs please
Who am I to say, but I feel like the standover height should be from the floor to the top of the top tube. That's how it is measured in every other bike scenario. But in BMX, it's basically the size of the seat tube. Not sure why they use "standover" as opposed to just "seat tube length".
I have some kinda virus, temperature
... Its not covid btw. Am layin in bed for 5 days and literaly doing nothing, just watching youtube, you and ryan taylor...
Hope you heal up soon my dude!
Keep it up brochachi
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Seat tube angle is important for taller riders. It opens the frame up.
noti gang
My dude!
The first time I get a notification, kinda mad but I’m back 😁
So weird!! Welcome back kind sir!
Same
@@AlfredoMancuso I gotta catch up on these videos, would you happen to know when the epic website would come back up?
75 is more all around and park. Less than 75 dirt and jumps, more than 75 is street/flatland. Race frames hit 74 area. My Subrosa arum has higher bb and my new fit TRL is lower.
purple ftw homie lol I got green trades..... Thank you, thank you, thank you!! this is exactly what I was wanting to know about responsiveness .. you guys are the fuckin best
You guys should recommend us good beginner bikes for new bmx riders
What the best way to put on foldable tires? specifically maxxis grifters
Noob here. Haro Boulevard 2021, Full Hi-Ten frame. I’m 5’11, 200lbs. Like street cruising with occasional curb jumps, ramping & bunny hops. Any thoughts?
#justiceforfoo is canceled he is now getting treated with respect but we will keep a close eye on Alfredo ✊😑 we fighting for you foo✊❤️
Lmaoooo
I've found a HT angle of 74.5°-75° is a great starting point. It's an all around head tube angle.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. John 3:16 and 17.
Phu, do you think it would help if i'd put shorter fork offset and shorter stem to compensate for my long frame?
Can a shorter chain stay compensate a longer top tube?
Donut media in The background 😂
So how do Sundays 29er High C, get such a Short Chainstay but a tall Seat tube? Brands like SE and GT run a tall seat tube but forced to go with a long chainstay? Sounds confusing correct???
Make a video new school frame vs old school..etc
I'm new to BMX and I've got a question about my second hand BMX. It seems that the circumference of my top tube and down tube is much larger than on the BMXs I generally see on the internet, like in this video. The circumference of the tubes is roughly: 7,4 inch top tube and 8,2 inch down tube. As this seems so uncommon, with what kind of BMX am I dealing here?
Cuut that bsd
hai mươi mốt!
What about the bars
what rims are those
Phu trades weed for bike parts......kick azz🤘🤘🤘😆 lol
Make that money
Is corriere’s frame the same as the fit mix tape frame lol
Some differences haha
Tall head tube makes a stronger front triangle by spreading the top and down tubes
That makes it a quadrilateral not a triangle, which lessens structural integrity
Do you sell bmx frame or stance frame
Do a tech thursdays about tyres
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Oughh yeah srry 😅🙃
no offense alf, but you have nice cars and a 1998 camera? seriously? get something that can focus man, i love all the epic bmx videos you guys do btw, no hater here!
why some mirra co frame have a weird Chain stay
They need to have a bmx racer and freestyle there to really tell how much of a difference the geometry makes along with riders height also makes a difference. Like how a shorter rider can easily ride a bike with a CS length of 12.7 and not loop out so easily as someone 6’1 or above. Also try riding a bike with a 75.5 degree head tube and try racing it on a bmx track when you hit the jumps it’s harder leveling out the bike as with a 74 degree or even a 73 degree angle you can just coast over. Also how racing bmx bike are like 21.5 and over in toptube length with a long backend starting at 15 inch. All this is similar to skateboard longboards, motorcycle Hayabusa. The only people who say it doesn’t really matter is shorter riders who seem to ride 21 inch top tubes when they could still barspin with 20.5.
Panda was the first to put a 6 inch crank on a bmx
What’s the difference between race, freestyle, dirt, and cruiser frames
Race frames are typically longer and shorter for more agility, where as dirt jumping and cruiser frames are typically much bigger and allow more leg extension for comfort.
Where is the store located at?
U forgot the fork which is part of the frame!
So i got a R25 forks 180mm on a fly savannah 4.45 headtube. I have to use a lot of spacers. Can I still ride fine or should I look for a frame with a taller headtube to make up for the form height? Or does it not make that much of a difference ?
bike shops also answer these annoying questions
@@yeseniamacias662 actually I'm just gonna get the wtp pathfinder frame that comes with a 5" headtube so I don't need to cut the fork
🤜🤛✌
the chaistay length depends on your height also. ethan seems somewhat lanky, and of course he prefers a longer chainstay (not only longer top tube) than someone like Chad Kerley, cause his butt (and center of gravity) goes father back when he pulls the bar up. i really appreciate the video, especially the input of a pro, but boy, i think me, as a rough beginner, can explain most of this stuff better. Alfredo, which spoke the least, was the most coherent. worth mentioning that a higher bb will also require a higher front end, cause it sucks to have a high bb and pull on low bars (also, i doubt park riders have high bb's, like Phu mentions, since they need stability)
Very true! 💯
donut media in the back
WASSSUP
I’m pretty sure the sleeper is 5”?
Head tube
High bottom brackets make manuals easier. For catwalks low helps cause leg extension. But high still helps.
Headtube height also affects headset bearings. More stable less deflection. Also helps with strength.
Seat tube angle can also help. Also fly has always had options with short rear ends. Tierra and others. Only a few frames had long rear ends and it was like 13.75 which used to be standard.
11.5-11.8 is usually the amount of play you have on height. 74.5 used to be standard headtube angle. Seat tube is like 71 or 72.
@ryan sullivan if a bike has an 11.5 bb I literally can't even hop the fucking thing. Low bottom brackets is the most disgusting feeling in the world for me.
@ryan sullivan fair enough. Probably like my preference for super long stems and most people hating it lol. We all have preferences.
It sucks to say that I have to bring my old bike up to date by ripping it a part and putting it back together.
im never ever talking to a park guy.not even once.
😂😂😂😂
I wondered why his bike was on the stand the last video
Haha you have a good eye
No wonder i failed geometry 😂😂😂😂
Im a flatlander bmx rider
Nice!
I make trades too..🤣😅
Hi
Hey man!
What’s up epic web site is down ands I was looking to buy some parts.
We’re revamping it
It's funny to see people get caught up in top tube size and all that.... I'm 6'3" people say I need a 21" TT but I also have a 20.75" TT and after it was built up the 20.75 has a longer wheel base and is actually front stem to drop outs it is still a big difference in size even though the TT dimensions are different they both ride absolutely different to each other.
Moutain bike forks on new rides before circa 2025 much love for traditional style I think some of those frames with new forks would be very fun. Dirt jumper style is cool but the geometry of traditional bmx or radling was you guys huge fan from Illinois, godspeed friends I also ride a 20inch traditional bike
vietnamese gang
I don't think they clean the shop when its closing time lol
Backwards manual all day?!? Hell, I’m trying to forward manual longer than a bike length 😂😂😂. Ok, I ride a 22 and it’s got a pretty long CS. I need to do a half link and slam the rear a bit more. 👍
What does it mean to slam the rear end? Never really understood it.
@@armaanhayerr get the rear wheel as far forward as possible
@@oldfartonabmx2122 wouldn’t that make the chain loose?
@@armaanhayerr . You take a half link or more out to get the chain tight again
I still don't like the steep head tube angles of modern geometry..I'd take an old 73-72 deg head tube anyday over modern design...I've even looked at using a bmx(race, like actual bmx)frame...I wish we could use a different word like we used to say freestyle...which sounds seriously dated...but fits better.
Someday you guys are going to be called Taylor's to get a person in the right bike, something like a suit tailor, you'll say sir you're this tall I think this is the right bike for you or something like that