I stay home with my kids, however I am also a disabled Vet. I bring in just as much as my spouse. she works because she wants to and I respect that. I also spend allot of time teaching my sons, survival skills. we hunt, fish, play sports, and read the Bible together. I am not going to allow myself to be labeled as worthless because of that. I also don't want childcare raising my sons. I've heard the horror stories. they are safe with me and I prefer it that way. not everyone has this opportunity, but I thank God I do. 🙏
Thank you for your service! This example was of a man(boy) who wanted to stay home and not work because he was “called” to stay home with his dog. You are, for a lack of better words, are a bad ass who works hard, and now stays home because you aren’t able to physically work. But I’m betting you would work if you were able to. You sir, are a hero. And I believe your sons see that, and they won’t grow up to become man child’s like the “man” described in the video.
I stayed at home and raised both my daughters but I also wrote and published 8 novels, took care of my sick and dying mother-in-law, did all house chores and cut 7 cords of wood for every winter. I was far from lazy or not contributing to the family. Once my daughters were grown and my mother-in-law passed, I went back to work full time
You were still working while you were home brother. BIG difference. He's talking about the sluggard boys in society that Paul refers to as "shouldn't be allowed to eat if they don't work" in 2 Thessalonians. 🙃😎
Wow. So a man is only worth what he can provide? That seems unfair. I gladly go to work while my husband stays home. He was abused as a child and has debilitating anxiety. He cooks, cleans and supports me where needed. We’re both happy in this scenario and I have respect for him and vice versa. I love him for him, his inner child and the man he is. He’s got a great heart and a horrible past but I’ll love and nurture him through while he “provides” the love and care I need. I hate when people treat him differently when they find out he doesn’t work. He’s worth much more than money to me. Ps-typed this on my lunch break. At work!!
Probably because she does not look at you as a virile man, hence there is no desire. You are emasculated by this choice and a woman must admire how strong and protective her man is. @wordsmith4305
@wordsmith4305I think it’s non existent because respect goes out the window. This woman is taking care of her man like he’s her child by comforting his “inner child.” Weird scenario.
If you are able bodied, work. If that work entails raising your kids, then you’re working. Do everything you do as if you’re doing it for the Lord. This sentiment in the video is only true if the person examined is lazy and refusing to work. There are many variables to many lives. Seek God.
23yrs I was called lazy and worse while Doctors palmed me off to Psychiatrists. The whole while I was telling them I felt like I had a Brain Tumor and I just knew I had Low Testosterone. 23yrs it took for a young fresh Doctor to diagnose me with a Pituitary Tumor which can cause severe Depression like state and more. Washes out your Vitamin D which makes you feel even worse, Heart Problems ensue and bone density issues. Just because you cant see something or a person doesnt have a diagnosis, dont be so quick to judge in your own self righteousness. And regardless what Mark says here I raised a fine young son who at 20yrs old owns a large house with a guest house and he now keeps us.
It is so obvious he gets a kick out of belittling others. Well done for taking a complicated issue and acting as if there’s one simple answer. This is the way Mark Driscoll see’s it: Mark Driscoll’s opinion= the word of God The bible has much sterner words against pride than a man looking after his kids!!! It is very obvious you are a proud person, don’t you fear God??
Same here I'm a Stay At Home Dad myself. For over a year and half, I cook and clean take care of our Boyz 14 and 2, it just happened to be that way. Yes it's overwhelming at times. It's a full time job in itself, my lady works full time at Wood Mill. Our oldest son is Autistic, he has learned what men do, and how men are raised, in my opinion this dude talking sounds conceited and has a huge Ego. I give props to all the men who work hard and take care of our children daily staying home.
I needed this comment more than you know so thank you stuff is definitely getting hard cause times are getting harder and it’s like she’s literally loosing love for me and I’m busting my ass daily to make sure everything is good and ik she is too but I admire her and support her for that but for what I do at home just isn’t worth it
Their will come and time when men become the women and the women become the men. Soon, your kids will overtake both of you and they'll rule your household. Grow up, take charge and be the leader.
I'm about to be in a similar situation where I have a 13 and a 4 year old boys. I am going to work part time but let the employer know if my boys need me then I can't work.
I stayed at home with the kids during the pandemic, and worked in the afternoons till 10 pm. I worked 3 jobs while she went to nursing school, and now work a part time job that pays as much as a full time job. Wife became envious, and weaponized my work schedule against me. She makes more and works more hours, so she became domineering and found comfort in searching for a higher value man. Now we’re separated and she gets 1/3 of my income. Thanks pastor for confirming my worthlessness, and being lazy for not working in the day.
That’s definitely not what he was talking about. You worked three jobs. He’s referring to men, who are able to work, choosing to be stay at home dads. There’s a difference. I’m sorry for what your ex wife has done, that is terrible 😞
@@1amG1G1 I only work 20 hours a week, so I don’t have to pay her alimony. If I worked all day every day, she would take it my labor through alimony. She had an affair. Divorced me when I confronted her. Claimed I was mentally abusive, and claimed she’s closer to Jesus now than she ever was. No mediation, no, counseling, and no one reached out to me at the church that we attended together. I love the brethren, but I can’t help but feel forsaken myself. Not by God, but by church americana
You and you're wife should've done all that "schooling" before you had kids. Don't blame others for your eagerness to have a family when all that should've been done prior 😂 Your laziness and the separation of your wife is your fault. Nobody else take responsibility of your own faults kid 💀😂
I supported my husband 100% while he was trying to get a decent job back in the late 1970s... took less than 2 years in a terrible job market. I did not have to go back to work again until he died. I respected him before during and after. Still do
Puppies and children are two different things , children not only have to be fed groomed , consoled alongside a million other neeeds they also have to be educated! So the comparison sucks
this is absurd. taking care of your family is work so whether it being a man or woman staying home with the kids to care for them. they will teach them things if he's actually taking being a parent and partner as work and putting in the effort
That’s further from the truth. My wife does brain surgery and we have two children under 3 so I’m the one who stays home with the kids. In fact I was medically retired from the army as an infantryman and raising children is harder than combat. You my brother are speaking from an arrogant spirit. Raising children is way harder than war in my mind
If i may...you said you were a vet, but didn't say you are unable to work so I'll assume you are still able to...my wife is very smart, has 3 degrees behind her name (useful ones!) And if she were to go to work she'd comfortably earn 3 times what i do (and I'm on a pretty good wage). Could it not be argued that you and your wife are 'swapping' your God given roles for the sake of money? Put bluntyly, sacrificing your natural roles to the idol of money. You have said that raising children is harder than going to war!? Doesn't that kind of prove its not your natural role? You were more comfortable in the midst of flying bullets and people dying around you than having to raise your own children that you would do anything for. I totally get it! I'd rather work my butt off than try to accomplish what my wife does with ease regarding bringing up children... God designed men and women differently... I know pastors (like in this scenario) can rub people up the wrong way, and in turn we shut off and dont actually contemplate what is being said. No judgement from my side, I've got my own issues to deal with haha, but hopefully it sparks a thought in your mind and you ask God about it. Whatever the case, I hope it all works out well for you!
@@matthewoosthuizen432 Not really because he as the man is still making sure his family's needs are met and as the man he is putting the wife before himself because she likes her job. Being a stay at home parent or taking care of the house is not the same as being a bum that sits around playing video games all day, trashing up the place. But you are right that men are more designed for going out and doing hard labor while women are more designed for taking care of children but a lot of jobs now are about hard labor and during the times of the Israelites, women still worked in labor with the men such as when they were rebuilding Jerusalem's wall after being freed by Cyrus.
I think you are awesome and this guy who commented is an idiot. You served your country and now hold down the fort at home. Anyone who knows anything knows that raising kids is hard no matter your gender.
@@matthewoosthuizen432 i apologize I should have clarified. I have a physical brain injury so I am unable to work. I get frequent migraines and I I’ve memory issues and I have reduction in cognitive function randomly for some reason. I am not legally allowed to earn money due to the status that the VA gave me. I am stuck in my role. Money is not my idol. It is also not lost on me that being stay at home parent might be harder for me than others because I have injuries. I would much rather fulfill my natural role as a man. I can assure you that money is not my idol. If it were up to me I would live in a shack in the woods.
But when social security runs out so does the veterans disability pension fund. This pretend bubble we have won’t last long. Regardless of any of our disabilities we all have an ability though our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. WHEN we face judgment why do we assume that North America won’t exist? Rome, Byzantine, Ottoman, British, they ALL fell. This is not an insult to you at all my brother but a call for iron to sharpen iron. I myself am a work in progress and keep putting off. It won’t be our strength but His that pushes us and our families forward. I don’t want to be surprised when He comes like a thief. I want to be awake. I have been asleep too long. The end is coming soon if you look at soon in the scope of a few generations or the next few years. The Hamas attacks are to prevent the building of the third temple near or on the dome of the rock. The red heifer will be sacrificed. The people of Israel will recognize their messiah. First century persecution is coming and it’s time for us all to rise up warriors of Christ Jesus our Lord. His strength not ours. Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
*Wow! Truth!* I was in construction for 18 years, 10 of which were owning my own successful business that I built from scratch, working day and night almost. Paid my guys well, made a lot of money, marriage was great, I thought Life was awesome, but then the Lord took it all. Got hit with illness, ME/CFS was my final diagnosis, basically bedridden! I literally feel like Job sometimes lol I laugh about it, because I know it’s a season. I worship and pray my way through this, and I’d be dead already if it weren’t for my rock solid faith and clinging to the everlasting promises of our Lord. Yes I lost the beautiful 6 figure income and all the prestige that came with it, but I gained my family and had plenty of time to reconsider my relationship with Jesus, and what that means in a practical way! In hindsight, I see how the Lord guided the whole thing all along.. And now I am waiting on the Lord to restore me. Tried everything under the sun, and no Doc can help. And that means only one thing:
The man should provide for his family. There may be extenuating circumstances that may make that difficult, but under normal circumstances, it is the man’s job to get off his rear end and work. ‘The man who does not work shall not eat’ 2 Thess 3:10. ‘But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.’ 1 Tim 5:8 So even the Bible shows that burden is placed on the husband.
Agreed, but times have changed, and women no longer have a "village" that once supported them in raising children. On top of that, with husbands often working long hours, women are frequently left to shoulder the heavy burden of raising children and managing household chores completely on their own. This is the consequence of such an individualistic society.
@@Harry-fe2dg Maybe our society needs to change. Maybe we should go back to what God said. Men need to work. Families need good relationships with others - and the church. every generation faces the same difficulties - this is not a new thing only our generations has faced.
What???? No we don't. Its literally the opposite. Women get praised for being stay at home and men get called bums when they're stay st home dads. Like what are you talking about? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@knuclestheechidna5406 she's a perpetual victim of her own gender.. nobody told her to spread her legs and just give it away in her teens, but she did and now no man wants her so she is full of hatred
@@Sep45 "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12 Mark spews a lot of worldly crap and he's an egomaniac. The between the lines of him mocking stay at home men is the self congratulatory 'look at me, I am so perfect' .. you see this alot in the redpill movement where certain players will sit there and spew out a whole lot of how a man should be, and really what they are doing is spewing their own qualities and holding up a mirror. A kind of gymnastic yoga position where one publicly bends over and blows smoke up their own rear hole. The reality of it is however that Mark, like many other so called pastors of today, are fleecing the flock and living extravagant lifestyles on the dime of their congregation. The man wouldnt have a single callous and simply flexes the cash and thinks he is now the man. If we really want to get into it and psychology of it all then when Mark pays the guy to come pave an area and build a pavilion his wife is extremely turned on watching that sweaty laborer do his thing, but thats a whole other area lol. Guys like this, who made their money on youtube or twitch literally selling their souls downstream and now have the audacity to sit pompously on in their glass towers spewing down their condemnation. Matthew 23 was written for pastors today
My father stayed at home and raised me. It was unconventional, but there were things like depression and anxiety that played a role in that decision from my father. Overall, I had an excellent relationship with my dad. Mom and I were more distant but time has brought us together. Dad taught me about the Lord, played games with me, took me on adventures, listened when I talked and hugged me when I needed comfort. I married a man who lost his leg and hip in a motorcycle accident. I went to work and he stayed home with the children. It is different, but it can also be very special in its own way. I realize you are speaking to a specific audience... but I also feel like you are speaking out of turn.
There are always going to exceptions to the rule.. that is you and your situation. He is talking about in generalities, when all things are normal and there is no special circumstances. And he is correct. I worked my whole marriage so did my husband, I would definitely have a hard time respecting a man that didn’t work as equally as hard as me , or more . Especially if he 💯 physically and mentally able too.
@@SouthernPioneer1965 There are plenty of situations where it makes sense for the man to stay-at-home, rather than a woman. A common example would be men married to female doctors, who also have young children. Typically, the women is more invested in her career than the man, so he has less apprehensions about going part-time or quitting to look after the young children temporarily. And the woman's income is usually more than enough for the family.
@@mrgeek434 like I said .. it may look good on paper in the situation. But over time emotionally, it will start to effect the relationship. Are their outlining couples to this .?..yes but they are very small percentage that live happily together.
It would be ok for a man to stay home while taking care of the house, groceries, kids, animals, yards, making sure bills get to were they need to be, cooking, and helping the wife relax if he has certain conditions or if the wife truly likes her job and it doesn't come with too much stress as well as making enough money, especially if she makes more than the husband could. If he is doing all those things he is still providing. He could use any spare time to start up a business or get side jobs and learn new skills. If something happens to her or her job such as losing it or too much stress then he would need to go to work. If she cheats on you because she makes more money or if your a stay at home dad that does do everything that is needed so all she has to do is come home then she most definitely would have cheated if you provided the other way around, just give it time, nasty people will always be nasty people in any situation.
There are a lot of different circumstances but I believe Pastor Mark is speaking to them that don't want to work, want a free ticket and don't help their wife or take care of their children. Men that stay home due to injury or illness and still provide, help with the kids or are working to get their family to the next level are in a different category. They are still working on taking care of their family and if the wife sacrifices time with their kids to put the family in a better position that is still putting their family first and taking care of them.
Pastors/Clergy are the perfect example of lazy good for nothing men demanding a free ride in life, fleecing the flock while living the good life and using the word of God to threaten those who wont give and Mark is no exception. They feel all high and mighty because they extract worship from their followers and are infact putting themselves in place of God. They will be judged, we will all be judged!
I like you pastor, and I wouldn’t deny there are plenty of men who fit that description. But I stayed home because at the time our second child was born, my wife made more and didn’t want to be a stay at home mom, and daycare for two (we have three now) was more expensive than working a part time job at home and staying with the kids. I have juggled 2-3 part time jobs that allow me to contribute to providing while also caring for three children, largely by myself. So, I hope I don’t fit that bill. That said, if I could go back and do it again, I think I would have stayed at work and angled for a better paying position, because regardless of what anyone says about how hard I’ve worked, you’re right. I think it’s extremely difficult for a woman to respect, and as such, love, a man who isn’t the primary provider for the home. Then again, it seems to be difficult for women to respect, love and appreciate any man in this society anymore, no matter how hard he works, how much he earns, or how well he leads.
Generally I agree but there are many exceptions. I stayed at home for a year reading books on how to build businesses, then I built a business which has made us a LOT of money over 30 years. If my wife hadn’t been graceful I wouldn’t have had the time I needed to build our income.
You are not the kind of man he is describing here. I commend you for what you did for your family. You were still working during that year, just in an unconventional way. But it still benefited your family.
Stop hating on the stay at home dads my wife make 6 figures just sitting on her bosom and she don't want me to lift a finger and to be honest it's not that bad .
Yes I was a stay home farther, for about 6years but I did hustle made a lot of money , when I got a job she devorced me , quiet the job or devorce ,devorce happened,
I'm a stay at home father unfortunately I find his opinion of stayed home fathers concerning. Not only am I stay at home father I'm a farmer. I'm a mechanic. I'm an electrician. I'm a Taylor. There isn't much I can't fix or build I'. I'm a baker. I'm a chef I'm an appliance repairman. I am a plumber as well, A matter of fact, my job goes 24 hours a day seven days a week! There is no clock out time! I happen to have raised an excellent daughter and an excellent son.
I am a stay at dad. Injured broken back. Was depressed for years. After reading the Bible and actually listening to learn. I found my to the gym. Strength training and mental training is hard and rough. But I am closed to being able to go back to work. Yes there is many exceptions and excuses to not work. Proverbs 6:9-11 ESV / 22 helpful votes How long will you lie there, O sluggard? When will you arise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.
Work is good for the mind (I’m a woman.. even if I’m not working I’m always doing something that needs to be done that is within my abilities of course). I’m happy you are healing! 👏👏
What do you say about me as a stay at home Dad who makes the money as a disabled veteran who served in combat with PTSD and the wife doesn't work but I pay all the bills and wifey is lazy.... You don't know everything. Got something to say about me and how I'm a lazy man???
So I’m a stay at home dad. Quit my full time job working for the government and now serve my church full time as a pastor. We’d decided for my wife to work 3 days as week as the bread winner as my income is less that hers. Insanity?? I’ve got loser vibes?? Please tell me Mr Driscoll
I think Pastor Mark sometimes paints with too broad a brush. I was just thinking of a man in your situation and then it came to me that, I don't think the bread winner topic being pushed here is the issue, or should be. The man's biblical position in marriage is headship over the woman. If he is and remains the spiritual leader of his covenantal marriage relationship with his wife, under the headship of Christ, then who can find fault?
As a single dad doing odd jobs cause the mom wanted to party. I disagree with you bro. Women don't even try to be mom's. Everyone in my community and church is on my side.
If this scenario is reversed with a wife saying she felt called to stay home to take care of a puppy while her husband worked, it’s equally as problematic. Why would any adult, male or female, feel they need to stay home to watch after a dog for 8-9 hours a day? This is not only an unintelligent question to pose but also a bad example to use to criticize a man for not working. Many Christians use poor, outdated logic to try to prove a point. As a single woman in her forties, I’ve had older Christian women tell me that I might be single because men are intimidated by my career. My having a job or career should not be intimidating to a man. It’s a sign that I’m a responsible and intelligent human being who knows how to provide for herself. How do these women expect me to provide for myself? Should I still be living with my family of origin in an unemployed state waiting for suitors to pay me a visit? On the contrary, a man should see red flags if an able-bodied woman avoided working by living off of unemployment or her parents or any form of public assistance.
1 Timothy 5:8 “But if anyone does not provide for his own family, especially for his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” There’s a Bible verse about that. The one exception for stay at home dads are authors. A woman who believes in his writing will be willing to see the long game.
Providing for your family isn’t just about money. If a person is a stay at home, father, he is providing care to his children. He is providing care to his home. That is a job.
My husband will be a stay at home husband soon. I respect the hell out of him. I hate house work and cooking. He deep cleans the house, does laundry, cooks breakfast, lunch, and dinner. He cares for all of our pets and helps me with my business errands. I respect him so much for turning our house into a home while I do the work to provide the income
Wish you all the best with that.. but from my experience of seeing this happen with many friends.. the women always ends the marriage. Because respect does falter and then so does the intimacy, and then it’s down hill from there . Hope you are the exception.
@@TheRealHungryJoe I’m sorry to hear that. So let me ask , why are you a stay at home dad? Most of the time it’s because the women’s income out weighs the man . So on paper the numbers make sense. But the numbers don’t know the whole story, they don’t match up with our internal emotions. I’m guessing it was equally important to you both to have a parent be at home with your child/s and that is good. But like I said in most cases, the women takes on to much of the masculine role and she starts to view her husband as not masculine enough. Unfortunately women are not honest when it comes yo their true desires. Most (not all) women would 100% want their man to equally if not more than match their income, and house chores and handle the children. Most with in that situation would actually prefer to want to stay home with the children, but in todays times they fear the man/husband having that much control over them. They want to know they are still equally respected and have independence. I would suggest if your marriage is heading down this wrong path. Maybe rethink your finances, rethink where you actually think you need to be spending money on. Make some sacrifices where it would allow you or both of you to be able to contribute financially and with the kids. But giving you a bigger role in being part of the income earner. Good luck to you both .. most important are the children always.
When children come into the mix I highly recommend reconsidering your rolls. For the woman to carry the child, give birth, heal, nurse a baby or pump, be a wife, be a mother, and be the breadwinner is TOO MUCH FOR ANY WOMAN. and doing it all does not make you a super hero.
@@kc13658my wife is currently doing all three and aches to be home with our kids. She is working until we are out of debt. The second we put down our last payment, she is quitting her job and running home to be with our kids.
I moved out to Arizona at the beginning of the year, it took 6 months to find a job (as it's ridiculously competitive out here population of 2 million) Once I got a job, I worked for 2 weeks and was let go because I was unable to breathe well. I've had lung issues for over 6 years and can't do manual labor anymore, unfortunately, those are the only jobs I've been able to get an interview for, despite applying for non physical jobs. Never once have I filed for unemployment in my life. Despite having long streaks of being unemployed for the last few years.
Love it. I worked and raised 3 kids not bragging but my dad raised me to be a MAN !!! I was raised a man works and takes care of the women and children. It really kills me cause my dad always said a women should never have to work. That was back in late 70s early 80s now days it takes 2 to really live comfortably.
This is literally why my marriage ended. My husband was unwilling to get a real job and I was the main breadwinner, on top of doing all of the housework myself. He racked up debt buying video games and anime dolls. It felt like I was living with a man child because I was. I did not want to have kids with him nor could I see a future where I trusted him to provide for us. Funny thing too is that I suggested that he would go to Real Men, the men's group that Mark hosts in Scottsdale, and he came home with only negative things to say. I am so happy to be separated from that nightmare situation now.
@@user-kf7tt2vk6tit isn’t her responsibility to work on “getting him to mature.” He’s a grown man and needs to put in the work. Why should she continue to suffer? She isn’t selfish, she is smart to leave a situation that was hurting her. U have to be trolling
I can’t help but wonder if anyone is good enough for marriage according to this pastor and exactly how many Christians it is good for to never get married? Pastors like this have created a situation where there is always something to pick on in a potential spouse and of course if you end up never getting married it is no big deal because it was God’s will anyway. I don’t know this ministry but I wonder what it does to seriously help singles who want to get married besides yap about not being good enough?
Alright I have one thing to say to you grow up and get with the times. Most stay at home dads aren't lazy but just want to be more involved with their child's life. Besides if women have the option to stay at home and/or work so should men. Your behavior is rude and disrespectful. Also just because the dad is stay at home does not mean he doesn't contribute. The dad would be doing most of the cooking, cleaning, helping with homework, and of course taking care of the kids.
I want to be the breadwinner and make enough money so my husband can stay home, relax, and have a good life without having to work. He has cancer, it’s benign, but the doctors say it can become malignant anytime and if it does it will guarantee death for him. They say stress increases those chances and work usually causes him stress. I don’t want him to live a life like that.
Based on what I've read in some of the comments, it sounds like the problem isn't so much men staying home to take care of the children under extenuating circumstances but insisting on doing so as a pretext for refusing to take any serious adult responsibility, often doing a poor job at that while engaging in the very things of which Mark is accusing them.
My x stayed at home and its true that my daughters dont have healthy relationships but my sons were only 3 and 5 when I married thier step father and they followed me and not him. Hardest workers you ever met but also get with women who employ narcissistic emotional abuse just like step dad did. :(
So he’s saying that a father isn’t a good parent as a mother? Will he be okay if his wife gets divorced and never lets him see his daughters again? Since ‘daughter don’t need a father’? Any woman who won’t respect a man without money is like a man who won’t respect a woman who refuses him s*x.. Is that the world this preacher wants? A world where women can stay at home and earn money but men don’t get any other option? His undoing men’s rights activists hardwork and he is pushing agendas which puts pressure on boys to do life threatening jobs in order to ‘get the girl’..does he knows that this pressure is the leading cause of men’s high suicide rate.. Men need liberation too.. If mothers raise children alone, yall ask ‘where’s the father?’ But if a father steps up and looks after his children, you call him ‘emasculated’!! Jesus would’ve loved fathers who decided to stay at for their children despite you people preaching hate!!
I am a stay-at-home homeschool dad who is fulfilling Deuteronomy 6. THEN... I earn $60k working nights and weekends. I wish you would be more specific when calling men higher, because it seems like you are suggesting that a man in doing something sinfully wrong unless he has the proverbial 9 to 5. The truth is that Scripture does NOT advocate the notion that a man is only to provide for his family financially. It DOES say that I am the priest of my household and that I am responsible for teaching my children to know, love, and serve God. The HOW and WHEN of earning my money is of peripheral importance, and I seek to honor God in those as well. Please explain specifically what you believe I am doing sinfully wrong by staying home to teach my children.
Okay...SHE SAID PUPPY!! What if they have kids and Mom makes more money and they can't find good childcare so they decide Dad stays home and take care of the children? If taking care of the children is a "job" for women, then it's a job for Dad?
That would be acceptable because he is still making sure the family is provided for, provided that the wife isn't being over stressed and that the husband is doing all the household chores, cooking, yard work, and helping his wife relax after work.
That goes without saying. But in her illustration, that husband just FELT called to stay home. That's not ok. He's right.. And Your'e right too about disabled men. God bless you.❤
Mark Driscoll is basically saying the Disabled should go neck themselves in the forest and just get it over and done with. Ultimately the Bible says the same, "a Man who doesnt work and support his family is worse than an Infidel"
I stayed home for six years taking care of four children. I felt like a slacker and got lazy as sh!t. Never again. I'm no good at what my wife is excellent at and vice versa.
Mark do you have experience with nannies or play date parents trying to hook up with you? Preachers only work a couple of days a week. If a couple has children and they choose for a parent to stay at home with the kids. It then is common sense for the parent who has the most earning potential to be the parent with the job. First do not have more children than you can afford. My husband and I both work and we could not afford a child today. We are older and everything we have is paid for including our home. How people make a life with many children and only one income is truly unthinkable. The children in those situations more than likely not fed a balanced diet, have a lack of medical care, and proper attention from both parents. A child needs at least 30-40 minutes of undivided attention from each parent to properly develop mentally. How could a set of parents that have three or more children devote the necessary time to those children for proper mental development?
IF her husband wants/needs her to. Honestly, unless you have little ones or have a lot of children, you can still have a part-time or full-time job. They go to school at some point. This is coming from a woman.
@@nacho-mammy WRONG! She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants. She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard. She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks. She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night.
@@mysty0 no, it’s not wrong. All of that can still be done while she focuses on the home. The point is that whether or not children are present, her focus is on the home.
I grew a beard and put on a leather jacket now I can tell men they need to go to work will i myself am obese is what im hearing. He reminds me of a angry friar tuck someone took his mead
This shit made my bitch ass mad sad Ect 😂😂😂it’s alright I do agree with what he’s saying but I wish I didn’t , I showed my wife this and she said it’s bullshit and I’m a great dad 😂😂😂😂
Why is it ok for a woman to stay at home with the kids but not a man. I have really good friends who have that situation. The dad is disabled and takes care of their son while mom works. He is a great dad. He is not lazy. He doesn’t have a nanny. Their relationship works for them. She respects him and appreciates the care he gives their toddler. She would probably go a little crazy if the roles were reversed anyway. She is a person who thrives at work and enjoys the quality time with her husband and son, but wouldn’t enjoy her life as much if she were not able to go to work and stayed home 24/7. And by the way, the Bible says judge not least ye be judged. You seem very judgmental of a situation different than your own. Your opinion is not the one that matters. God’s is.
Dang, you stay at home dads that have justified reasons are the few he says has a reason. He said MOST stay at home dads are probably more than capable of providing. NOT ALL.
Showing Christianity a stay-at-home dad is not a dad and perhaps he is correct, the mother and father should work and make enough money, to hire an interior decorator a nanny and professional life coaches to teach their sons to be men and their daughters to be women. Then again how is the mother going to raise her son to be a man, when Daddy is always at work, the preacher doesn't want men to take responsibility for their children
Okay let's put the shoe on the other foot what that man is retire younger wife that he's putting for school to become a nurse and he agrees to stay at home because he's already drawing Social Security and his wife is working as a nurse
Yup, truth…100 percent. But it also needs to come with rules and boundaries that a woman must also follow in order for her to play her part in a marriage. And for God’s sake, understand that our government forced most homes into needing two incomes for the better part of our lives while a marriage is growing together. It’s just a luxury that the wife gets to retire much earlier than the husband does, granted the marriage isn’t destroyed by then.
Men need to work period if we lived based on feelings and excuses I believe is part of a reason we have mental illness in the first place along with social media
I completely disagree with your principles here. I thought pastors weren't supposed to be judgemental???? Judgement day will be upon us soon enough pal.
I stay home with my kids, however I am also a disabled Vet. I bring in just as much as my spouse. she works because she wants to and I respect that. I also spend allot of time teaching my sons, survival skills. we hunt, fish, play sports, and read the Bible together. I am not going to allow myself to be labeled as worthless because of that. I also don't want childcare raising my sons. I've heard the horror stories. they are safe with me and I prefer it that way. not everyone has this opportunity, but I thank God I do. 🙏
Amen. Hes on point for some situations but not all. It always come from a place of ignorance to stereotype people.
Thank you for service ❤
Thank you for your service! This example was of a man(boy) who wanted to stay home and not work because he was “called” to stay home with his dog. You are, for a lack of better words, are a bad ass who works hard, and now stays home because you aren’t able to physically work. But I’m betting you would work if you were able to. You sir, are a hero. And I believe your sons see that, and they won’t grow up to become man child’s like the “man” described in the video.
You have all my respect, sir! Thank you for your service 🙏
That's a completely different thing brother.
I stayed at home and raised both my daughters but I also wrote and published 8 novels, took care of my sick and dying mother-in-law, did all house chores and cut 7 cords of wood for every winter. I was far from lazy or not contributing to the family. Once my daughters were grown and my mother-in-law passed, I went back to work full time
Do some self promotion. Pen name please
You're not lazy, you work even though you stay-at-home. You're definitely not the one he is talking about
Are you confused to what he's talking about?
You were still working while you were home brother. BIG difference. He's talking about the sluggard boys in society that Paul refers to as "shouldn't be allowed to eat if they don't work" in 2 Thessalonians. 🙃😎
Taking care of the kids is respectable
Wow. So a man is only worth what he can provide? That seems unfair. I gladly go to work while my husband stays home. He was abused as a child and has debilitating anxiety. He cooks, cleans and supports me where needed. We’re both happy in this scenario and I have respect for him and vice versa. I love him for him, his inner child and the man he is. He’s got a great heart and a horrible past but I’ll love and nurture him through while he “provides” the love and care I need. I hate when people treat him differently when they find out he doesn’t work. He’s worth much more than money to me.
Ps-typed this on my lunch break. At work!!
@wordsmith4305damn why is that?
I agree 100%. Thank you.
Probably because she does not look at you as a virile man, hence there is no desire. You are emasculated by this choice and a woman must admire how strong and protective her man is. @wordsmith4305
@wordsmith4305I think it’s non existent because respect goes out the window. This woman is taking care of her man like he’s her child by comforting his “inner child.” Weird scenario.
@MountainEagle77 you probably would have failed as parent regardless
If you are able bodied, work. If that work entails raising your kids, then you’re working. Do everything you do as if you’re doing it for the Lord. This sentiment in the video is only true if the person examined is lazy and refusing to work. There are many variables to many lives. Seek God.
23yrs I was called lazy and worse while Doctors palmed me off to Psychiatrists. The whole while I was telling them I felt like I had a Brain Tumor and I just knew I had Low Testosterone. 23yrs it took for a young fresh Doctor to diagnose me with a Pituitary Tumor which can cause severe Depression like state and more. Washes out your Vitamin D which makes you feel even worse, Heart Problems ensue and bone density issues. Just because you cant see something or a person doesnt have a diagnosis, dont be so quick to judge in your own self righteousness. And regardless what Mark says here I raised a fine young son who at 20yrs old owns a large house with a guest house and he now keeps us.
It is so obvious he gets a kick out of belittling others. Well done for taking a complicated issue and acting as if there’s one simple answer.
This is the way Mark Driscoll see’s it:
Mark Driscoll’s opinion= the word of God
The bible has much sterner words against pride than a man looking after his kids!!! It is very obvious you are a proud person, don’t you fear God??
Same here I'm a Stay At Home Dad myself. For over a year and half, I cook and clean take care of our Boyz 14 and 2, it just happened to be that way. Yes it's overwhelming at times. It's a full time job in itself, my lady works full time at Wood Mill. Our oldest son is Autistic, he has learned what men do, and how men are raised, in my opinion this dude talking sounds conceited and has a huge Ego. I give props to all the men who work hard and take care of our children daily staying home.
I needed this comment more than you know so thank you stuff is definitely getting hard cause times are getting harder and it’s like she’s literally loosing love for me and I’m busting my ass daily to make sure everything is good and ik she is too but I admire her and support her for that but for what I do at home just isn’t worth it
Their will come and time when men become the women and the women become the men. Soon, your kids will overtake both of you and they'll rule your household. Grow up, take charge and be the leader.
I'm about to be in a similar situation where I have a 13 and a 4 year old boys. I am going to work part time but let the employer know if my boys need me then I can't work.
I stayed at home with the kids during the pandemic, and worked in the afternoons till 10 pm. I worked 3 jobs while she went to nursing school, and now work a part time job that pays as much as a full time job.
Wife became envious, and weaponized my work schedule against me.
She makes more and works more hours, so she became domineering and found comfort in searching for a higher value man.
Now we’re separated and she gets 1/3 of my income.
Thanks pastor for confirming my worthlessness, and being lazy for not working in the day.
He's too afraid to call out women directly. And the problem is just as bad with christian women as it is with worldly women.
That’s definitely not what he was talking about.
You worked three jobs. He’s referring to men, who are able to work, choosing to be stay at home dads.
There’s a difference.
I’m sorry for what your ex wife has done, that is terrible 😞
@@1amG1G1 I only work 20 hours a week, so I don’t have to pay her alimony. If I worked all day every day, she would take it my labor through alimony.
She had an affair. Divorced me when I confronted her. Claimed I was mentally abusive, and claimed she’s closer to Jesus now than she ever was.
No mediation, no, counseling, and no one reached out to me at the church that we attended together.
I love the brethren, but I can’t help but feel forsaken myself.
Not by God, but by church americana
You and you're wife should've done all that "schooling" before you had kids. Don't blame others for your eagerness to have a family when all that should've been done prior 😂 Your laziness and the separation of your wife is your fault. Nobody else take responsibility of your own faults kid 💀😂
@@DiamondInTheRough. yep… all my fault… do you know me?
I supported my husband 100% while he was trying to get a decent job back in the late 1970s... took less than 2 years in a terrible job market. I did not have to go back to work again until he died. I respected him before during and after. Still do
Big difference to what he was saying!
Puppies and children are two different things , children not only have to be fed groomed , consoled alongside a million other neeeds they also have to be educated! So the comparison sucks
this is absurd. taking care of your family is work so whether it being a man or woman staying home with the kids to care for them. they will teach them things if he's actually taking being a parent and partner as work and putting in the effort
That’s further from the truth. My wife does brain surgery and we have two children under 3 so I’m the one who stays home with the kids. In fact I was medically retired from the army as an infantryman and raising children is harder than combat. You my brother are speaking from an arrogant spirit. Raising children is way harder than war in my mind
If i may...you said you were a vet, but didn't say you are unable to work so I'll assume you are still able to...my wife is very smart, has 3 degrees behind her name (useful ones!) And if she were to go to work she'd comfortably earn 3 times what i do (and I'm on a pretty good wage). Could it not be argued that you and your wife are 'swapping' your God given roles for the sake of money? Put bluntyly, sacrificing your natural roles to the idol of money. You have said that raising children is harder than going to war!? Doesn't that kind of prove its not your natural role? You were more comfortable in the midst of flying bullets and people dying around you than having to raise your own children that you would do anything for. I totally get it! I'd rather work my butt off than try to accomplish what my wife does with ease regarding bringing up children... God designed men and women differently... I know pastors (like in this scenario) can rub people up the wrong way, and in turn we shut off and dont actually contemplate what is being said. No judgement from my side, I've got my own issues to deal with haha, but hopefully it sparks a thought in your mind and you ask God about it. Whatever the case, I hope it all works out well for you!
@@matthewoosthuizen432 Not really because he as the man is still making sure his family's needs are met and as the man he is putting the wife before himself because she likes her job. Being a stay at home parent or taking care of the house is not the same as being a bum that sits around playing video games all day, trashing up the place. But you are right that men are more designed for going out and doing hard labor while women are more designed for taking care of children but a lot of jobs now are about hard labor and during the times of the Israelites, women still worked in labor with the men such as when they were rebuilding Jerusalem's wall after being freed by Cyrus.
I think you are awesome and this guy who commented is an idiot. You served your country and now hold down the fort at home. Anyone who knows anything knows that raising kids is hard no matter your gender.
@@matthewoosthuizen432 i apologize I should have clarified. I have a physical brain injury so I am unable to work. I get frequent migraines and I I’ve memory issues and I have reduction in cognitive function randomly for some reason. I am not legally allowed to earn money due to the status that the VA gave me. I am stuck in my role. Money is not my idol. It is also not lost on me that being stay at home parent might be harder for me than others because I have injuries. I would much rather fulfill my natural role as a man. I can assure you that money is not my idol. If it were up to me I would live in a shack in the woods.
But when social security runs out so does the veterans disability pension fund. This pretend bubble we have won’t last long. Regardless of any of our disabilities we all have an ability though our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
WHEN we face judgment why do we assume that North America won’t exist? Rome, Byzantine, Ottoman, British, they ALL fell.
This is not an insult to you at all my brother but a call for iron to sharpen iron. I myself am a work in progress and keep putting off. It won’t be our strength but His that pushes us and our families forward.
I don’t want to be surprised when He comes like a thief. I want to be awake. I have been asleep too long. The end is coming soon if you look at soon in the scope of a few generations or the next few years.
The Hamas attacks are to prevent the building of the third temple near or on the dome of the rock. The red heifer will be sacrificed. The people of Israel will recognize their messiah.
First century persecution is coming and it’s time for us all to rise up warriors of Christ Jesus our Lord. His strength not ours.
Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
*Wow! Truth!*
I was in construction for 18 years, 10 of which were owning my own successful business that I built from scratch, working day and night almost.
Paid my guys well, made a lot of money, marriage was great, I thought Life was awesome, but then the Lord took it all.
Got hit with illness, ME/CFS was my final diagnosis, basically bedridden!
I literally feel like Job sometimes lol
I laugh about it, because I know it’s a season. I worship and pray my way through this, and I’d be dead already if it weren’t for my rock solid faith and clinging to the everlasting promises of our Lord.
Yes I lost the beautiful 6 figure income and all the prestige that came with it, but I gained my family and had plenty of time to reconsider my relationship with Jesus, and what that means in a practical way!
In hindsight, I see how the Lord guided the whole thing all along..
And now I am waiting on the Lord to restore me. Tried everything under the sun, and no Doc can help.
And that means only one thing:
Great story, you are very wisely giving it up to the Lord. He will reward your faith without question. 👍
@jimmyfincher2468 thank you Jimmy! Appreciate you brother!! AMÉN 🙏🙏
The man should provide for his family. There may be extenuating circumstances that may make that difficult, but under normal circumstances, it is the man’s job to get off his rear end and work. ‘The man who does not work shall not eat’ 2 Thess 3:10. ‘But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.’ 1 Tim 5:8
So even the Bible shows that burden is placed on the husband.
so disabled men should pretty much just wander into the forest and neck themselves, get it over and done with
Agreed, but times have changed, and women no longer have a "village" that once supported them in raising children. On top of that, with husbands often working long hours, women are frequently left to shoulder the heavy burden of raising children and managing household chores completely on their own. This is the consequence of such an individualistic society.
@@Harry-fe2dg Maybe our society needs to change. Maybe we should go back to what God said. Men need to work. Families need good relationships with others - and the church. every generation faces the same difficulties - this is not a new thing only our generations has faced.
It always amazes me how we praise men who stay home, and look down on women who stay home.
What???? No we don't. Its literally the opposite. Women get praised for being stay at home and men get called bums when they're stay st home dads. Like what are you talking about? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The level of perpetual victimhood in this, and delusion victimhood at that
@@knuclestheechidna5406 she's a perpetual victim of her own gender.. nobody told her to spread her legs and just give it away in her teens, but she did and now no man wants her so she is full of hatred
This whole video is literally dedicated to condemning men who stay home.
@@Sep45 "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof the ways of death." Proverbs 14:12
Mark spews a lot of worldly crap and he's an egomaniac. The between the lines of him mocking stay at home men is the self congratulatory 'look at me, I am so perfect' .. you see this alot in the redpill movement where certain players will sit there and spew out a whole lot of how a man should be, and really what they are doing is spewing their own qualities and holding up a mirror. A kind of gymnastic yoga position where one publicly bends over and blows smoke up their own rear hole. The reality of it is however that Mark, like many other so called pastors of today, are fleecing the flock and living extravagant lifestyles on the dime of their congregation. The man wouldnt have a single callous and simply flexes the cash and thinks he is now the man. If we really want to get into it and psychology of it all then when Mark pays the guy to come pave an area and build a pavilion his wife is extremely turned on watching that sweaty laborer do his thing, but thats a whole other area lol. Guys like this, who made their money on youtube or twitch literally selling their souls downstream and now have the audacity to sit pompously on in their glass towers spewing down their condemnation. Matthew 23 was written for pastors today
My father stayed at home and raised me. It was unconventional, but there were things like depression and anxiety that played a role in that decision from my father. Overall, I had an excellent relationship with my dad. Mom and I were more distant but time has brought us together. Dad taught me about the Lord, played games with me, took me on adventures, listened when I talked and hugged me when I needed comfort. I married a man who lost his leg and hip in a motorcycle accident. I went to work and he stayed home with the children. It is different, but it can also be very special in its own way. I realize you are speaking to a specific audience... but I also feel like you are speaking out of turn.
There are always going to exceptions to the rule.. that is you and your situation.
He is talking about in generalities, when all things are normal and there is no special circumstances.
And he is correct.
I worked my whole marriage so did my husband, I would definitely have a hard time respecting a man that didn’t work as equally as hard as me , or more . Especially if he 💯 physically and mentally able too.
@@SouthernPioneer1965 he's a knob.
@@SouthernPioneer1965he talked about someone staying home and taking care of a puppy??
@@SouthernPioneer1965 There are plenty of situations where it makes sense for the man to stay-at-home, rather than a woman. A common example would be men married to female doctors, who also have young children. Typically, the women is more invested in her career than the man, so he has less apprehensions about going part-time or quitting to look after the young children temporarily. And the woman's income is usually more than enough for the family.
@@mrgeek434 like I said .. it may look good on paper in the situation. But over time emotionally, it will start to effect the relationship. Are their outlining couples to this .?..yes but they are very small percentage that live happily together.
so if i apply this logic to my female partner i have a little sister? single dads much like single moms dont get enough credit
Single moms and single dads work.
Stay at home wife that has no children? Is she your helper? If not then yes, a sister.
It would be ok for a man to stay home while taking care of the house, groceries, kids, animals, yards, making sure bills get to were they need to be, cooking, and helping the wife relax if he has certain conditions or if the wife truly likes her job and it doesn't come with too much stress as well as making enough money, especially if she makes more than the husband could. If he is doing all those things he is still providing. He could use any spare time to start up a business or get side jobs and learn new skills. If something happens to her or her job such as losing it or too much stress then he would need to go to work. If she cheats on you because she makes more money or if your a stay at home dad that does do everything that is needed so all she has to do is come home then she most definitely would have cheated if you provided the other way around, just give it time, nasty people will always be nasty people in any situation.
There are a lot of different circumstances but I believe Pastor Mark is speaking to them that don't want to work, want a free ticket and don't help their wife or take care of their children. Men that stay home due to injury or illness and still provide, help with the kids or are working to get their family to the next level are in a different category. They are still working on taking care of their family and if the wife sacrifices time with their kids to put the family in a better position that is still putting their family first and taking care of them.
Pastors/Clergy are the perfect example of lazy good for nothing men demanding a free ride in life, fleecing the flock while living the good life and using the word of God to threaten those who wont give and Mark is no exception. They feel all high and mighty because they extract worship from their followers and are infact putting themselves in place of God. They will be judged, we will all be judged!
I like you pastor, and I wouldn’t deny there are plenty of men who fit that description. But I stayed home because at the time our second child was born, my wife made more and didn’t want to be a stay at home mom, and daycare for two (we have three now) was more expensive than working a part time job at home and staying with the kids. I have juggled 2-3 part time jobs that allow me to contribute to providing while also caring for three children, largely by myself. So, I hope I don’t fit that bill. That said, if I could go back and do it again, I think I would have stayed at work and angled for a better paying position, because regardless of what anyone says about how hard I’ve worked, you’re right. I think it’s extremely difficult for a woman to respect, and as such, love, a man who isn’t the primary provider for the home. Then again, it seems to be difficult for women to respect, love and appreciate any man in this society anymore, no matter how hard he works, how much he earns, or how well he leads.
Generally I agree but there are many exceptions. I stayed at home for a year reading books on how to build businesses, then I built a business which has made us a LOT of money over 30 years. If my wife hadn’t been graceful I wouldn’t have had the time I needed to build our income.
What you did was not the same as the type of man they are describing.
Great job brother 👏 much love to your family!
You are not the kind of man he is describing here. I commend you for what you did for your family. You were still working during that year, just in an unconventional way. But it still benefited your family.
That is not the same thing. You were working on a career move that would ultimately bring wealth to the family .
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Stop hating on the stay at home dads my wife make 6 figures just sitting on her bosom and she don't want me to lift a finger and to be honest it's not that bad .
There's nothing wrong with a man who wants to stay at home and take care of the house and kids.
I injured my back badly at work and have been on disability for 2 years now . We have a 2 year old and a 5 year old . Best damn job I’ve ever had
Dependent democrat…I’m a libertarian, but this guy is so obviously political over Scriptural
Yes I was a stay home farther, for about 6years but I did hustle made a lot of money , when I got a job she devorced me , quiet the job or devorce ,devorce happened,
This clip does not apply to men who are disabled of any kind or men who have done their time to share being a man with their family.
I'm a stay at home father unfortunately I find his opinion of stayed home fathers concerning.
Not only am I stay at home father I'm a farmer. I'm a mechanic. I'm an electrician. I'm a Taylor. There isn't much I can't fix or build I'. I'm a baker. I'm a chef I'm an appliance repairman. I am a plumber as well, A matter of fact, my job goes 24 hours a day seven days a week! There is no clock out time! I happen to have raised an excellent daughter and an excellent son.
There are exceptions. Generally I agree with you but disabilities, mental health issues, loss of job issues happen.
I am a stay at dad. Injured broken back. Was depressed for years. After reading the Bible and actually listening to learn. I found my to the gym. Strength training and mental training is hard and rough. But I am closed to being able to go back to work. Yes there is many exceptions and excuses to not work. Proverbs 6:9-11 ESV / 22 helpful votes
How long will you lie there, O sluggard? When will you arise from your sleep? A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest, and poverty will come upon you like a robber, and want like an armed man.
Work is good for the mind (I’m a woman.. even if I’m not working I’m always doing something that needs to be done that is within my abilities of course).
I’m happy you are healing! 👏👏
What do you say about me as a stay at home Dad who makes the money as a disabled veteran who served in combat with PTSD and the wife doesn't work but I pay all the bills and wifey is lazy.... You don't know everything. Got something to say about me and how I'm a lazy man???
Frikin Right on Mark Driscol!
So I’m a stay at home dad. Quit my full time job working for the government and now serve my church full time as a pastor. We’d decided for my wife to work 3 days as week as the bread winner as my income is less that hers. Insanity?? I’ve got loser vibes?? Please tell me Mr Driscoll
🤣🤣🤣 riiight...I feel ya
I think Pastor Mark sometimes paints with too broad a brush. I was just thinking of a man in your situation and then it came to me that, I don't think the bread winner topic being pushed here is the issue, or should be. The man's biblical position in marriage is headship over the woman. If he is and remains the spiritual leader of his covenantal marriage relationship with his wife, under the headship of Christ, then who can find fault?
As a single dad doing odd jobs cause the mom wanted to party. I disagree with you bro. Women don't even try to be mom's. Everyone in my community and church is on my side.
Also, we aren't running around. It's not good to parade women in front of your daughter.
If this scenario is reversed with a wife saying she felt called to stay home to take care of a puppy while her husband worked, it’s equally as problematic. Why would any adult, male or female, feel they need to stay home to watch after a dog for 8-9 hours a day? This is not only an unintelligent question to pose but also a bad example to use to criticize a man for not working.
Many Christians use poor, outdated logic to try to prove a point. As a single woman in her forties, I’ve had older Christian women tell me that I might be single because men are intimidated by my career. My having a job or career should not be intimidating to a man. It’s a sign that I’m a responsible and intelligent human being who knows how to provide for herself. How do these women expect me to provide for myself? Should I still be living with my family of origin in an unemployed state waiting for suitors to pay me a visit? On the contrary, a man should see red flags if an able-bodied woman avoided working by living off of unemployment or her parents or any form of public assistance.
THIS!!
1 Timothy 5:8 “But if anyone does not provide for his own family, especially for his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.”
There’s a Bible verse about that. The one exception for stay at home dads are authors. A woman who believes in his writing will be willing to see the long game.
Providing for your family isn’t just about money. If a person is a stay at home, father, he is providing care to his children. He is providing care to his home. That is a job.
If that's what you want, may you get it.@@tiffanyscarborough2391
The puppy tho 😂😂😂 Talk about a plot twist. Lol. I don’t laugh out loud often but this is hilarious
STAYS HOME TO WATCH THE DOG. That's a far bigger issue then just staying home.
My husband will be a stay at home husband soon. I respect the hell out of him. I hate house work and cooking. He deep cleans the house, does laundry, cooks breakfast, lunch, and dinner. He cares for all of our pets and helps me with my business errands. I respect him so much for turning our house into a home while I do the work to provide the income
Wish you all the best with that.. but from my experience of seeing this happen with many friends.. the women always ends the marriage. Because respect does falter and then so does the intimacy, and then it’s down hill from there . Hope you are the exception.
@@SouthernPioneer1965that makes sense.. I’m at 3 years as a Stay at home dad and our marriage is deteriorating every day
@@TheRealHungryJoe
I’m sorry to hear that. So let me ask , why are you a stay at home dad? Most of the time it’s because the women’s income out weighs the man . So on paper the numbers make sense. But the numbers don’t know the whole story, they don’t match up with our internal emotions. I’m guessing it was equally important to you both to have a parent be at home with your child/s and that is good. But like I said in most cases, the women takes on to much of the masculine role and she starts to view her husband as not masculine enough.
Unfortunately women are not honest when it comes yo their true desires.
Most (not all) women would 100% want their man to equally if not more than match their income, and house chores and handle the children.
Most with in that situation would actually prefer to want to stay home with the children, but in todays times they fear the man/husband having that much control over them. They want to know they are still equally respected and have independence.
I would suggest if your marriage is heading down this wrong path. Maybe rethink your finances, rethink where you actually think you need to be spending money on. Make some sacrifices where it would allow you or both of you to be able to contribute financially and with the kids. But giving you a bigger role in being part of the income earner. Good luck to you both .. most important are the children always.
When children come into the mix I highly recommend reconsidering your rolls. For the woman to carry the child, give birth, heal, nurse a baby or pump, be a wife, be a mother, and be the breadwinner is TOO MUCH FOR ANY WOMAN. and doing it all does not make you a super hero.
@@kc13658my wife is currently doing all three and aches to be home with our kids. She is working until we are out of debt. The second we put down our last payment, she is quitting her job and running home to be with our kids.
What if he stays home and day trades or is disabled
What if the family is 50/50 or what some might say 100/100?
I moved out to Arizona at the beginning of the year, it took 6 months to find a job (as it's ridiculously competitive out here population of 2 million)
Once I got a job, I worked for 2 weeks and was let go because I was unable to breathe well.
I've had lung issues for over 6 years and can't do manual labor anymore, unfortunately, those are the only jobs I've been able to get an interview for, despite applying for non physical jobs.
Never once have I filed for unemployment in my life. Despite having long streaks of being unemployed for the last few years.
Love it. I worked and raised 3 kids not bragging but my dad raised me to be a MAN !!! I was raised a man works and takes care of the women and children. It really kills me cause my dad always said a women should never have to work. That was back in late 70s early 80s now days it takes 2 to really live comfortably.
This is literally why my marriage ended. My husband was unwilling to get a real job and I was the main breadwinner, on top of doing all of the housework myself. He racked up debt buying video games and anime dolls. It felt like I was living with a man child because I was. I did not want to have kids with him nor could I see a future where I trusted him to provide for us. Funny thing too is that I suggested that he would go to Real Men, the men's group that Mark hosts in Scottsdale, and he came home with only negative things to say. I am so happy to be separated from that nightmare situation now.
@@user-kf7tt2vk6tit isn’t her responsibility to work on “getting him to mature.” He’s a grown man and needs to put in the work. Why should she continue to suffer? She isn’t selfish, she is smart to leave a situation that was hurting her. U have to be trolling
Its obvious the pastor hasnt read the literature. He should have started with "In my opinion".
I can’t help but wonder if anyone is good enough for marriage according to this pastor and exactly how many Christians it is good for to never get married? Pastors like this have created a situation where there is always something to pick on in a potential spouse and of course if you end up never getting married it is no big deal because it was God’s will anyway. I don’t know this ministry but I wonder what it does to seriously help singles who want to get married besides yap about not being good enough?
Alright I have one thing to say to you grow up and get with the times. Most stay at home dads aren't lazy but just want to be more involved with their child's life. Besides if women have the option to stay at home and/or work so should men. Your behavior is rude and disrespectful. Also just because the dad is stay at home does not mean he doesn't contribute. The dad would be doing most of the cooking, cleaning, helping with homework, and of course taking care of the kids.
Only those who feel guilty will get offended and knows it refers to them. He’s only referring to lazy men who don’t wanna work.
Both work and that’s biblical. A wife may need to stay home till the kids are in 6-7 grade but otherwise both work
I want to be the breadwinner and make enough money so my husband can stay home, relax, and have a good life without having to work. He has cancer, it’s benign, but the doctors say it can become malignant anytime and if it does it will guarantee death for him. They say stress increases those chances and work usually causes him stress. I don’t want him to live a life like that.
That is true love and loyalty. Much respect from me.
Will do anything for a stay at home dad
I stay at home and I wouldn’t change it for the world.
Right on
Based on what I've read in some of the comments, it sounds like the problem isn't so much men staying home to take care of the children under extenuating circumstances but insisting on doing so as a pretext for refusing to take any serious adult responsibility, often doing a poor job at that while engaging in the very things of which Mark is accusing them.
My x stayed at home and its true that my daughters dont have healthy relationships but my sons were only 3 and 5 when I married thier step father and they followed me and not him. Hardest workers you ever met but also get with women who employ narcissistic emotional abuse just like step dad did. :(
Sooooo! Awesome truth Pastor! Reeeefreshing!!👊😄
LOL he destroyed with that last comment 😂
So he’s saying that a father isn’t a good parent as a mother? Will he be okay if his wife gets divorced and never lets him see his daughters again? Since ‘daughter don’t need a father’?
Any woman who won’t respect a man without money is like a man who won’t respect a woman who refuses him s*x..
Is that the world this preacher wants? A world where women can stay at home and earn money but men don’t get any other option?
His undoing men’s rights activists hardwork and he is pushing agendas which puts pressure on boys to do life threatening jobs in order to ‘get the girl’..does he knows that this pressure is the leading cause of men’s high suicide rate..
Men need liberation too..
If mothers raise children alone, yall ask ‘where’s the father?’ But if a father steps up and looks after his children, you call him ‘emasculated’!!
Jesus would’ve loved fathers who decided to stay at for their children despite you people preaching hate!!
I am a stay-at-home homeschool dad who is fulfilling Deuteronomy 6.
THEN...
I earn $60k working nights and weekends.
I wish you would be more specific when calling men higher, because it seems like you are suggesting that a man in doing something sinfully wrong unless he has the proverbial 9 to 5.
The truth is that Scripture does NOT advocate the notion that a man is only to provide for his family financially. It DOES say that I am the priest of my household and that I am responsible for teaching my children to know, love, and serve God. The HOW and WHEN of earning my money is of peripheral importance, and I seek to honor God in those as well.
Please explain specifically what you believe I am doing sinfully wrong by staying home to teach my children.
Okay...SHE SAID PUPPY!! What if they have kids and Mom makes more money and they can't find good childcare so they decide Dad stays home and take care of the children? If taking care of the children is a "job" for women, then it's a job for Dad?
That would be acceptable because he is still making sure the family is provided for, provided that the wife isn't being over stressed and that the husband is doing all the household chores, cooking, yard work, and helping his wife relax after work.
Dang, he's like a B52 that just dropped a truth bomb
Some men become legitimately disabled unfortunately
Have compassion on them but otherwise i agree
That goes without saying. But in her illustration, that husband just FELT called to stay home. That's not ok. He's right.. And Your'e right too about disabled men. God bless you.❤
Mark Driscoll is basically saying the Disabled should go neck themselves in the forest and just get it over and done with. Ultimately the Bible says the same, "a Man who doesnt work and support his family is worse than an Infidel"
So what about dads who are disabled?
We need more preachers like this that have a pair and say it the way it should be said.
Hshahajahahaha Daniel!!!!! He has a pair hahahahahahah. All men have a Pair some use them some DONT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Amen
I stayed home for six years taking care of four children. I felt like a slacker and got lazy as sh!t. Never again. I'm no good at what my wife is excellent at and vice versa.
😂 I bet you couldn’t handle a FULL day Chachi!!
Mark do you have experience with nannies or play date parents trying to hook up with you? Preachers only work a couple of days a week. If a couple has children and they choose for a parent to stay at home with the kids. It then is common sense for the parent who has the most earning potential to be the parent with the job. First do not have more children than you can afford. My husband and I both work and we could not afford a child today. We are older and everything we have is paid for including our home. How people make a life with many children and only one income is truly unthinkable. The children in those situations more than likely not fed a balanced diet, have a lack of medical care, and proper attention from both parents. A child needs at least 30-40 minutes of undivided attention from each parent to properly develop mentally. How could a set of parents that have three or more children devote the necessary time to those children for proper mental development?
What if you work from home Mark?
nothing wrong with being a stay at home dad
But why are there no women being asked this question. "Would you prefer a husband who works or a stay at home dad?"
And I won't respond because I'll be at work. Well spoken !!
Real talk I can't respect a pastor that doesn't have a job outside the church . Like a legit 9 to 5 I just won't follow that lifestyle
There shouldn't be any stay at home wives when there are no children in the family. She should be working until children are had!
IF her husband wants/needs her to. Honestly, unless you have little ones or have a lot of children, you can still have a part-time or full-time job. They go to school at some point. This is coming from a woman.
No, whether there are children or not, a woman’s place is in the home. The Bible discusses this. Not sure of the verse though.
@@nacho-mammyblah, blah, blah. Garbage.
@@nacho-mammy WRONG!
She gets up while it is still night;
she provides food for her family
and portions for her female servants.
She considers a field and buys it;
out of her earnings she plants a vineyard.
She sets about her work vigorously;
her arms are strong for her tasks.
She sees that her trading is profitable,
and her lamp does not go out at night.
@@mysty0 no, it’s not wrong. All of that can still be done while she focuses on the home. The point is that whether or not children are present, her focus is on the home.
Hey, taking care of the puppy it’s a big responsibility and a hard job hahaha
I grew a beard and put on a leather jacket now I can tell men they need to go to work will i myself am obese is what im hearing.
He reminds me of a angry friar tuck someone took his mead
This shit made my bitch ass mad sad Ect 😂😂😂it’s alright I do agree with what he’s saying but I wish I didn’t , I showed my wife this and she said it’s bullshit and I’m a great dad 😂😂😂😂
Mic drop 😂
I really wouldn’t call what you do work.
Did he just say
Only summit to your husband if you feel like it
Why is it ok for a woman to stay at home with the kids but not a man. I have really good friends who have that situation. The dad is disabled and takes care of their son while mom works. He is a great dad. He is not lazy. He doesn’t have a nanny. Their relationship works for them. She respects him and appreciates the care he gives their toddler. She would probably go a little crazy if the roles were reversed anyway. She is a person who thrives at work and enjoys the quality time with her husband and son, but wouldn’t enjoy her life as much if she were not able to go to work and stayed home 24/7.
And by the way, the Bible says judge not least ye be judged. You seem very judgmental of a situation different than your own. Your opinion is not the one that matters. God’s is.
It is a man's responsibility to support his family. It's not a choice.
Any man who is able and won't work.....walk away from him NOW.
I’m on break, but that hilarious 😂 truth 💯
I think if the guy stayed home to raise his own kids instead of other people
Lmao the last comment I enjoy I really do
So there ARE limits to wifely submission…
Bingo. Literally why I didn’t marry my high school love after 6 years.. pregnant and he wanted to stay home with the kid while I worked. Nope
Dang, you stay at home dads that have justified reasons are the few he says has a reason. He said MOST stay at home dads are probably more than capable of providing. NOT ALL.
Showing Christianity a stay-at-home dad is not a dad and perhaps he is correct, the mother and father should work and make enough money, to hire an interior decorator a nanny and professional life coaches to teach their sons to be men and their daughters to be women.
Then again how is the mother going to raise her son to be a man, when Daddy is always at work, the preacher doesn't want men to take responsibility for their children
This kind of thinking is ass backwards to me. Who ever makes the most money and benefits should be the one to provide.
Okay let's put the shoe on the other foot what that man is retire younger wife that he's putting for school to become a nurse and he agrees to stay at home because he's already drawing Social Security and his wife is working as a nurse
Work??? What do you do again?
God Bless you
Pastor?? You should be ashamed of yourself. Cool jacket, man.
Who pays you again?
He wants to be a stay at home dog dad💀
LOVE LOVE LOVE his answer !!! Yes !!!
😅😅😅
Yup, truth…100 percent. But it also needs to come with rules and boundaries that a woman must also follow in order for her to play her part in a marriage. And for God’s sake, understand that our government forced most homes into needing two incomes for the better part of our lives while a marriage is growing together.
It’s just a luxury that the wife gets to retire much earlier than the husband does, granted the marriage isn’t destroyed by then.
I love this so much this is the truth!
Men need to work period if we lived based on feelings and excuses I believe is part of a reason we have mental illness in the first place along with social media
Stay home and take care of ur puppy, what.! I would tell him, "u don't lost ur mind.
Puppy?!
but the women at home are what? not lazy?
I completely disagree with your principles here. I thought pastors weren't supposed to be judgemental???? Judgement day will be upon us soon enough pal.