I used to make carbon fiber car parts. You need a few more things. You need to use a proper mold with mold release, the carbon fiber, stuff called peel ply, a fluffy mat type material called bleeder...it allows the excess resin to be sucked thru the peel ply and compress the carbon into a uniform thickness, and then your bag with absolutely no leaks. Also, the mold has to be a reverse of the bat...in other words you're building from the inside out. It would be a difficult, but not impossible task. We used to make tube protectors for race car tube frames and it was somewhat similar, but it was a semicircular shape. I never actually made a real bat so I can't say with any conviction on how to do it. But that's a very basic idea.
@@douzidoozyBBs are pretty terrible too. My brother does airsoft. I am still finding BBs even after moving houses. I don't think I'll ever know how one got into my moving box.
Or slicing one out of layers of MDF on their fancy 3-axis water jet. Either keep the direct result and embrace the low-res polygonal life, or finish it with a little sanding to round out the segments.
Perhaps make 3 halves so there's some overlap and more surface area for the adhesive/resin. And a core made from some sort of hard foam filling could really improve the strength without too much of a weight increase.
They make carbon fiber tube socks, it's a single piece and you'd be able to stretch it to the exact shape of the bat, with zero seams. Also, the vaccum bags are pretty pointless in this case as you're not doing resin infusion, so it's not really doing anything. Also, spray glue is your best option, it plays well with resins and styrofoam.
he licked ACETONE! i think that is by far the most dangerous thing he has lick tested! and i thought it couldnt get worse after the friggin gas station handle
I actually worked in a factory that made carbon fiber bats for like a month, and I actually was responsible for the first step of winding carbon thread around a metal rod to make the shape of the bat, it's was an overarching structure of overlapping thread and there was 9 layers of it, once sent off to the finishing team where they seal it you then had to put the carbon and kevlar sleeves over the center of the bat, where the ball would hit, they were then sent off to be capped and then finished
@@ColinS-jf2hj if youve been on youtube for a while it happens, just a lot of other stuff they have in their lives and need to atleast try and keep the channel alive with the interns. They had a long run and did almost everything
Maybe they sold their channel to these new guys and have a continuation agreement or they have to make appearances for a certain amount of time to transition.
TH-cam was always a side thing for them. They are likely just busy with big orders at the shop and the interns are less needed than the primary workers.
guys they literally explained it in this video. The waterjet channel is owned by the company that has the waterjet, not by dan and mitch. Dan and Mitch no longer work at the water jet factory.
*for the most part they worked lmao. I miss them too. I've kinda stopped watching. They left without realy saying anything. I mean Mitchell is in this one. But when is the last time Dan was around?
@@TheBuddha337 dan was in this one lol. i miss them too, and i also havent really watched since they just kinda stopped appearing. i hope the last paycheck thing was a bit, those two were the best.
it would sure be nice if mitch and dan were honest to their fans about them quitting or whatever is going on with the channel. the way they're letting the channel slowly fizzle out and die feels like the worst way to end a thing that i (and i'm sure a lot of other people) really enjoyed. now the channel's about to end on a low and ruin the good thing they had going on.
Literally in this video Dan and Mitch said they were coming to get their last paycheck. And that everyone misses them. That seems pretty clear and honest to me.
@@Johnnyb3g00d yeah, sure, in the middle of another (to be honest, pretty boring) video they kind of explain what's going on. that doesn't scream "being clear and honest with your fans" to me. they could at least make that the topic of a video, seeing as it is their channel after all. but now they're shoving this info into another disappointing video. it makes you feel like they genuinely don't care, and that completely ruins it for me
actually, no. that was the shittiest little "uh, we're actually leaving" i've ever seen. after a bunch of videos that left me wondering "who are these annoying new guys and where are dan and mitch?" they release this one and don't even spend 10 seconds explaining what's going on. i know i'm probably overreacting, but i really enjoyed this channel and i especially liked the dynamic between the two ogs. what they're allowing to happen to something that used to be really great is just so disappointing. i don't understand why you're on their side
@@littlejackalo5326 oh, of course, nobody owes anybody anything. i'm just some random person on the internet spelling out my dissapointment about how this channel is deteriorating and unwilling to be honest about it. whoever is running the channel doesn't have to care about me or my feelings. again, we don't owe each other anything. but it seems like i'm not the only person who feels this way and i felt like making a comment about it. it's kind of the whole point of a comment section
@@lourie_ I agree. It seems they are leaving and the channel no longer will host them and will offer no explanation. I am hitting the unsub button for both of those reasons
Don't know if you guys read feedback, but based on this video it seems Dan and Mitch left the company and that you both are in charge of videos. It's a little sad, but I believe the channel can still continue strong. My only suggestion is to pull back on how 'dumb' the videos turn out. The ideas and effort are 100% there, but through editing and presentation it makes it seem like more of a mess than it really is. Hopefully others would agree but I would really like to see a bit more of a serious spin with the projects so it feels like you guys are doing things we wish we could do with those tools and machines. Best of luck!
I agree, people move on with there lives. I'm sure Dan and Mitchell didn't plan on making videos for the rest of their lives, so maybe instead of bashing the new content, lets embrace it.
@@zoinksxscooby Sure isn't like it used to be. They used to just walk outside grab a rock off the ground, cut it in half and that was the entire video. Now there is the disgusting thing called substance that is ruining the video
I miss the videos that the waterjet was the main focus of the videos where it is just used because it is the waterjet channel or not even used at all, I miss the quality content Dan and Mitchell put out
memeing since too many autists who have no dad IRL have decided that dan and co. are their dads. So they have a freakout when someone else is on the show. Something about the channel not being the same anymore..... clowns.
Can we get an full explanation about that short "we are here for the last payment?" like no joke video or nothing bc i'm getting kinda worried about it
If Mitchell and Dan disappear - then so does my subscription. I'm sure I'm not alone. I don't mind the new guys, but it's not the same gig now. It just doesn't feel right. Sorry, but it's true.
Each version of the Carbon Fiber bat just got worse. All this stuff with resin lately though, has been somewhat interesting. The "new" guys lack the chemistry of Dan and Mitch, especially guy with the earpod. Seems like they're trying really hard to mimic them instead of being themselves. It'd be nice to have a clear understanding of what's going on with the channel, I'm here for it, for the most part. But dang, I was hoping they'd hit 1million subs before they jumped ship. Still surprised they haven't already
Fun fact: the top end Finnish baseball bats have garbon fiber! I have no idea how they are made in reality but they have multiple materials like glass fiber too. Also the bats are much lighter compared to baseball, as pitching is vertical over the plates and due to there being a back foul line meaning accuracy is much MUCH more important than hitting distance
@@WaterjetChannel great, thanks for clearing that up... people want to know where they are and why they arent in the videos hardly at all anymore... any chance of an update?
@@WaterjetChannel I miss the videos that the waterjet was the main focus of the videos where it is just used because it is the waterjet channel or not even used at all, I miss the quality content Dan and Mitchell put out
I got an idea. The lightest "apparent weight" bat in the world. Make it real heavy near the handle but light near the end. It'll feel easy to move but still has some weight.
why are all the "carbon fiber connoisseurs" in the comments getting pissy because some guys don't know how to use carbon fiber, as if they're supposed to when they literally stated in the beginning of the video that they don't know how to use carbon fiber.
I want to see you guys redo this carbon-fiber bat, but with, like, a disk of tungsten in the tip. That way it _should_ have a decent chunk of mass down on the hitting-end to actually transfer more power to the ball.
Try using carbon fiber sleeves instead of the sheets, also try a core that bolts together in the center of the handle area so you can pull the 2 halves out, then cap the ends later.
I would suggest putting carbon fiber support beams in the foam before wrapping it, that way after dissolving the foam there would still be inner supports.
Can you cut a home radiator with the waterjet. I don't understand how they work, what stops the water just leaving when they fill up and get warm. So many questions, would enjoy to see the inside of one :)
It'd be nice to get something that's strong, but brittle (preferably not too heavy) and wrap it in carbon fiber, I think this should make for the best bat
Okay I'll be honest I haven't kept up with the channel for a good while now. Are Dan and Mitchell actually parting ways with the company? I looked at a few recent videos and I still can't determine if this is a really obvious joke or not...
Caveat for carbon fiber is that it's strong when it comes to tensile loads. If you hit transverse to the plane of the fibers then it's really brittle as the bulk of the load at that point is taken up by the epoxy and not the carbon fibers
would it be lighter to just spray the styrofoam with that stuff that is super strong? I saw a video where they coated red solo cups with it and them a sumo wrestler could stand on them
The crook in the bat reminds me of my own 😝
I hope this isn’t a wiener joke…
So you can swing around corners.
Your non existent wife agrees.
ayo LMAO
😐
Someone who knows how to properly do carbon fiber needs to really help these guys.
Nobody knows carbon fiber better than a prosthetic appliance shop. Problem is it might cost an arm and a leg for them to give you a hand.
@@kg4boj booooooo lol
I used to make carbon fiber car parts. You need a few more things. You need to use a proper mold with mold release, the carbon fiber, stuff called peel ply, a fluffy mat type material called bleeder...it allows the excess resin to be sucked thru the peel ply and compress the carbon into a uniform thickness, and then your bag with absolutely no leaks. Also, the mold has to be a reverse of the bat...in other words you're building from the inside out. It would be a difficult, but not impossible task. We used to make tube protectors for race car tube frames and it was somewhat similar, but it was a semicircular shape.
I never actually made a real bat so I can't say with any conviction on how to do it. But that's a very basic idea.
@@kg4boj Fuck what Ronnie said, that was awesome
Xyla Foxlin would be a good person to call...
Sanded styrofoam dust, one of the nastiest substances known to man. You'll still find this stuff everywhere in the shop for the next 5 years.
Probably in your lungs too
At least it wasn't glitter.
@@JoeDangIt don’t mention the forbidden g-word
@@waterwolf982 you spill glitter once and you will find it in random places for the rest of your life
@@douzidoozyBBs are pretty terrible too. My brother does airsoft. I am still finding BBs even after moving houses. I don't think I'll ever know how one got into my moving box.
Try 3D printing a mold for the bat. I bet you could use it to get a really strong and clean looking result made from just two pieces of carbon fiber.
Or slicing one out of layers of MDF on their fancy 3-axis water jet. Either keep the direct result and embrace the low-res polygonal life, or finish it with a little sanding to round out the segments.
@@ParadigmUnkn0wn that’s smart too. Probably a lot faster.
Perhaps make 3 halves so there's some overlap and more surface area for the adhesive/resin. And a core made from some sort of hard foam filling could really improve the strength without too much of a weight increase.
@@challengegravity Three... halves?
they make water dissolvable filament that you can lay up and dissolve out
A real piss-poor job, as always. Keep up the great work!
silence furry
How rude but true
@@glimtrix6272 he ain't wrong
They make carbon fiber tube socks, it's a single piece and you'd be able to stretch it to the exact shape of the bat, with zero seams. Also, the vaccum bags are pretty pointless in this case as you're not doing resin infusion, so it's not really doing anything. Also, spray glue is your best option, it plays well with resins and styrofoam.
How comfortable are carbon fiber tube socks?
carbon fiber nut sock
@@demeats 🤨📸
@@demeats you’ve been caught in 4K
Lmao
The most shocking event in Waterjet channel history-- Mitchell actually spitting something out after a lick test
he licked ACETONE! i think that is by far the most dangerous thing he has lick tested! and i thought it couldnt get worse after the friggin gas station handle
@@genx589x how bout the water jet itself
I actually worked in a factory that made carbon fiber bats for like a month, and I actually was responsible for the first step of winding carbon thread around a metal rod to make the shape of the bat, it's was an overarching structure of overlapping thread and there was 9 layers of it, once sent off to the finishing team where they seal it you then had to put the carbon and kevlar sleeves over the center of the bat, where the ball would hit, they were then sent off to be capped and then finished
Acetone also dissolves epoxy. That's why the bottom of the bat got all squishy.
The old guys! I miss them :(
I agree. What's all this nonsense?
My guess is they are phasing in these new guys. However I have no idea why.
@@ColinS-jf2hj if youve been on youtube for a while it happens, just a lot of other stuff they have in their lives and need to atleast try and keep the channel alive with the interns. They had a long run and did almost everything
agreed, i'm about to unsub, the quality of the channel is just poo compared to what it used to be and why I enjoyed the channel.
Maybe they sold their channel to these new guys and have a continuation agreement or they have to make appearances for a certain amount of time to transition.
Can the channel answer the great mystery of why Mitch and Dan arent making content anymore?
They might just not feel like it anymore
That's what I want to know also!! Are they really fired and leaving?!
TH-cam was always a side thing for them. They are likely just busy with big orders at the shop and the interns are less needed than the primary workers.
@@mainman879 hoping it's something like that and not them selling the channel or getting kicked off somehow
guys they literally explained it in this video. The waterjet channel is owned by the company that has the waterjet, not by dan and mitch. Dan and Mitch no longer work at the water jet factory.
Styrofoam fumes are quite carcinogenic, I hope that you had the place well ventilated while cutting it with that hot knife.
1:21 no duh it’s producing deadly chemicals
I miss Mitch and Dan. They at least made good videos and things that worked.
*for the most part they worked lmao. I miss them too. I've kinda stopped watching. They left without realy saying anything. I mean Mitchell is in this one. But when is the last time Dan was around?
@@TheBuddha337 dan was in this one lol. i miss them too, and i also havent really watched since they just kinda stopped appearing. i hope the last paycheck thing was a bit, those two were the best.
@@TheBuddha337 Does anyone know what happened? Promotions? Changed jobs? Taking a break?
Mitch and Dan are still alive!! Miss those guys
No way Dan and Mitchell are done.
i understand they want the bat as light as possible but they kinda just made a carbon fiber bat with Napalms little brother inside
Why did the old guys stop showing up so much?
"why are the lights out?
idk, why's ur mom fat" got me dying
Well, you two just reminded me of why I don't watch this channel anymore.
Would it be better if you ran a strip (about 2" wide) in a spiral around the styro bat kinda like a grip on a tennis racket.
it would sure be nice if mitch and dan were honest to their fans about them quitting or whatever is going on with the channel. the way they're letting the channel slowly fizzle out and die feels like the worst way to end a thing that i (and i'm sure a lot of other people) really enjoyed. now the channel's about to end on a low and ruin the good thing they had going on.
Literally in this video Dan and Mitch said they were coming to get their last paycheck. And that everyone misses them. That seems pretty clear and honest to me.
@@Johnnyb3g00d yeah, sure, in the middle of another (to be honest, pretty boring) video they kind of explain what's going on. that doesn't scream "being clear and honest with your fans" to me. they could at least make that the topic of a video, seeing as it is their channel after all. but now they're shoving this info into another disappointing video. it makes you feel like they genuinely don't care, and that completely ruins it for me
actually, no. that was the shittiest little "uh, we're actually leaving" i've ever seen. after a bunch of videos that left me wondering "who are these annoying new guys and where are dan and mitch?" they release this one and don't even spend 10 seconds explaining what's going on. i know i'm probably overreacting, but i really enjoyed this channel and i especially liked the dynamic between the two ogs. what they're allowing to happen to something that used to be really great is just so disappointing. i don't understand why you're on their side
@@littlejackalo5326 oh, of course, nobody owes anybody anything. i'm just some random person on the internet spelling out my dissapointment about how this channel is deteriorating and unwilling to be honest about it. whoever is running the channel doesn't have to care about me or my feelings. again, we don't owe each other anything. but it seems like i'm not the only person who feels this way and i felt like making a comment about it. it's kind of the whole point of a comment section
@@lourie_ I agree. It seems they are leaving and the channel no longer will host them and will offer no explanation. I am hitting the unsub button for both of those reasons
Don't know if you guys read feedback, but based on this video it seems Dan and Mitch left the company and that you both are in charge of videos. It's a little sad, but I believe the channel can still continue strong. My only suggestion is to pull back on how 'dumb' the videos turn out. The ideas and effort are 100% there, but through editing and presentation it makes it seem like more of a mess than it really is. Hopefully others would agree but I would really like to see a bit more of a serious spin with the projects so it feels like you guys are doing things we wish we could do with those tools and machines. Best of luck!
I agree, people move on with there lives. I'm sure Dan and Mitchell didn't plan on making videos for the rest of their lives, so maybe instead of bashing the new content, lets embrace it.
Oh my god I lost this channel for years I’ve finally found it again. Awesome to see you guys are still making great videos. Keep up the amazing work!
Ok amber no need to lie. If you watched years ago you'd know these aren't the same guys. Your comment is so shallow it's sad.
@@zoinksxscooby yeah what actually happened
@@zoinksxscooby Sure isn't like it used to be. They used to just walk outside grab a rock off the ground, cut it in half and that was the entire video. Now there is the disgusting thing called substance that is ruining the video
So I'm guessing this channel is going the way of TKOR then? It's a shame if Mitch and Dan are actually leaving.
They were in this video
Equip2Endure went the same way
What happened to the king of random
@@lostcolonyforge5792 grant died, and the other people took over and went to shit a while ago
@@noahhill841 how
0:54 wait what you already had one
What happened to Dan and Mitchell always doing the videos
I miss the videos that the waterjet was the main focus of the videos where it is just used because it is the waterjet channel or not even used at all, I miss the quality content Dan and Mitchell put out
Chill bro these are good too. They’re taking turns uploading
Or maybe even taking a break who knows
Did the original two guys get fired or quit?
Or were they just memeing.
memeing since too many autists who have no dad IRL have decided that dan and co. are their dads. So they have a freakout when someone else is on the show. Something about the channel not being the same anymore..... clowns.
memes
@@frumbo7394 oh, neat.
where did the other guys go
Definitely one of the better channels on TH-cam, funny, entertaining, and can even learn a thing or two
Can we get an full explanation about that short "we are here for the last payment?" like no joke video or nothing bc i'm getting kinda worried about it
They probably got new jobs it's something that happens people can want to move on to better jobs etc.
7:38 “you play ball like a girl”-the sandlot reference
Let me know when Dan and Mitchell come back.
Where the old blokes gone
If Mitchell and Dan disappear - then so does my subscription. I'm sure I'm not alone. I don't mind the new guys, but it's not the same gig now. It just doesn't feel right. Sorry, but it's true.
Where did they go
Where are the regular Waterjet guys?!? Seriously what the crap is going on?
Oh good they’re actually in this video
Each version of the Carbon Fiber bat just got worse. All this stuff with resin lately though, has been somewhat interesting. The "new" guys lack the chemistry of Dan and Mitch, especially guy with the earpod. Seems like they're trying really hard to mimic them instead of being themselves. It'd be nice to have a clear understanding of what's going on with the channel, I'm here for it, for the most part. But dang, I was hoping they'd hit 1million subs before they jumped ship. Still surprised they haven't already
Most people get better at doing things with practice. That apparently does not apply to Neil.
I believe this answers "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object"
this whole video was the embodiment of sunk cost fallacy. you shoulda ditched the broken bat and tried again.
Fun fact: the top end Finnish baseball bats have garbon fiber! I have no idea how they are made in reality but they have multiple materials like glass fiber too. Also the bats are much lighter compared to baseball, as pitching is vertical over the plates and due to there being a back foul line meaning accuracy is much MUCH more important than hitting distance
4:26 ngl that made me smile
What happened to Dan and Mitchell. Are they still around or are they moving on.
They’re literally in the video
@@WaterjetChannel great, thanks for clearing that up... people want to know where they are and why they arent in the videos hardly at all anymore... any chance of an update?
@@WaterjetChannel I miss the videos that the waterjet was the main focus of the videos where it is just used because it is the waterjet channel or not even used at all, I miss the quality content Dan and Mitchell put out
@@WaterjetChannel low effort response for a low effort vid 👍🏻
where are dan and Mitchell
At your mother’s home.
As everyone else is saying, we miss Dan and Mitch :(
I got an idea. The lightest "apparent weight" bat in the world. Make it real heavy near the handle but light near the end. It'll feel easy to move but still has some weight.
Did Dan and Mitchell quit the channel?
“Why are the lights out, uh, why is your mom fat”
Playground insults are always superior
i never thought i would see the day where a 1000 DEGREE KNIFE became useful
Always a huge fan of anyone making The Sandlot references. Love it.
Ive never seen anybody decide that instead of taking time to do something, they choose to release toxic vapors into their workshop, good job boys
So I heard that the waterjet quit the channel.
They said specifically that it would mess up the styrofoam
Another TKOR disaster on the way
why are all the "carbon fiber connoisseurs" in the comments getting pissy because some guys don't know how to use carbon fiber, as if they're supposed to when they literally stated in the beginning of the video that they don't know how to use carbon fiber.
I want to see you guys redo this carbon-fiber bat, but with, like, a disk of tungsten in the tip. That way it _should_ have a decent chunk of mass down on the hitting-end to actually transfer more power to the ball.
Gojo playing baseball: Imaginary technique: Hollow Carbon Baseball Bat
Finally. No dislocated elbows
I do prefer mitch and dan its not the same with out them
Yet another 99% resin 1% carbon fibre bat. When will you guys learn?
Hit a golf ball with an aluminum bat. It doesn't involve you making anything but it will make you feel like a superhero.
Try using carbon fiber sleeves instead of the sheets, also try a core that bolts together in the center of the handle area so you can pull the 2 halves out, then cap the ends later.
Carbon fiber strip prepreg on lathe
I would suggest putting carbon fiber support beams in the foam before wrapping it, that way after dissolving the foam there would still be inner supports.
You're an artist
You have the power to make whatever you
want out of a blank canvas.
Now put your head up
Your crown is falling
*[as]*
Oh my god when he says
"why are the lights off I don't know why is your mom fat" I lost it It was so random and I love it Love this Channel so much
Can you cut a home radiator with the waterjet. I don't understand how they work, what stops the water just leaving when they fill up and get warm. So many questions, would enjoy to see the inside of one :)
Can Mitch and Dan be in every video from now on? I miss them!
sorry, are the OG's too busy? Are you the replacements?
This whole video is an exercise on how to do absolutely everything wrong with carbon fiber.
Don’t ever joke about someone’s mom that could get you killed
It'd be nice to get something that's strong, but brittle (preferably not too heavy) and wrap it in carbon fiber, I think this should make for the best bat
Okay I'll be honest I haven't kept up with the channel for a good while now. Are Dan and Mitchell actually parting ways with the company? I looked at a few recent videos and I still can't determine if this is a really obvious joke or not...
Death of a sub mil channel when the hosts pass it off to some random people. Potential = gone.
"Worlds lightest baseball bat" that is indeed a softball bat
when someone asks you about how crooked it is say you wanted it to be a karmbit
The blind leading the hopeless.
I love how Dan was like "I still exist"
now a solid carbon fiber bat, just keep rolling more and more layers on
honestly these are not as good without mitchel and dan, its a different channel
Achievement Achieved : Light, But Full of Power
Caveat for carbon fiber is that it's strong when it comes to tensile loads. If you hit transverse to the plane of the fibers then it's really brittle as the bulk of the load at that point is taken up by the epoxy and not the carbon fibers
I don’t know if anyone suggested this but what about using cork as the material for inside?
I can smell the burning foam and it hurts
Weird, I clicked the waterjet channel and ended up on the vacuum bag channel. I'll see myself out.
3.08 can really see the ray cons being supported lol
Carbon fiber can withstand pulling forces. It’s not solid like steel so it can’t hold a stiff shape
Brake cleaner dissolves styrofoam, too.
Chem blend B6040 shits on it all called thinner in plastics
gas is pretty quick tho
Brake clean is mostly acetone my dude.
I'd highly recommend using a hot wire cutter for any future Styrofoam projects as that'd much faster and easier.
"Strongest than steel" but only in tensile strength.
In most of the applications, we're testing the strength of the binder and not carbon fiber
Try making a another bat out of forged carbon fiber. I'm thinking the process will be easier for yall.
This works about as well as I would expect making a submarine out of carbon fiber would.
Aramid fibre is probably better than carbon fibre as it holds up much better to impacts, which carbon is really bad at.
What has happened to this channel?
I dunno I just found this channel right now
Didn't see the first video, but did you think of just rolling it super tight so it's solid?
Hot knife through styrofoam’s so satisfying
This deserves another try. Nice job tho it was stronger then I thought it was gonna be.
*than*
Not “then”.
Your welcome…
Jeez people lern to spell…
@@mkseed9188 um ok
@@mkseed9188 You're welcome
Lern to spel
would it be lighter to just spray the styrofoam with that stuff that is super strong? I saw a video where they coated red solo cups with it and them a sumo wrestler could stand on them
yalls sandlot comments from the dugout killed me lmao
The benchwarmers back at it 🫶🏽
That was really hilarious" why are my lights out? I don't know why is your mom fat"