i remember some of the ultra thinwall stupid pricey "Single tourney durability" Worth Copperheads that either lasered doubles and triples wherever you thought they should go or fractured hands if you made poor contact.
@@918_xDx Those things were the worst on cold mornings... 40 degrees and drizzling and you get jammed on a fastball, your hands would go numb for 2 innings. In little league we had one of the OG ones with the cap cup so deep you could drink water out of it and those were almost as bad. Also had the smallest sweet spot ever, but if you ever got into one it would crack like a gunshot and the ball would just sizzle off the barrel.
Same here! 17 yo, 165 lbs, only two diggers that year but I only flied out like twice (line drives and ground balls). The Reflex had legitimate pop, but it wasn’t that durable. Me and my brother destroyed that bat. Good memories
We got the Black, Orange and Silver C-Core my senior year. We all went for the fence, most team strikeouts ever that year lol. We would lay it out in the sun all day before games, I guess we thought it would hit harder if it had more heat in it
Wood bat era. 17 years old, 155 lbs. Batted leadoff with a 34 ounce Willie McCovey model Louisville Slugger gripped at the knob. Nothing in my life has been as satisfying as the sound of centering a fastball. Crack! God I loved baseball back then.
There’s a batting cage that I go to, been open since the 60’s (also a mini golf course cause of course it is) and they have some of those original 70’s 80’s bats. Still hanging in the cages
The sound of that CCore and TPX brought back all the feels. Those two came out right before my team got to within a game of the LLWS and we were using those two models throughout that tourney. Such insane pop.
The Gold Omaha and red stealth were the best, I used the Omaha in LL and Pony league and the stealth in Pony and HS. I still have my red Stealth, I lost my orange comp stealth.
With the reflex c core, if you caught a fastball into the sweet spot, you would get a trampoline sensation of the ball sinking into the bat. It’s a pretty indescribable feeling but you knew that you hit it just right. I was pretty hyped to see Will using that model, it was the first time I’ve seen BBB use it.
Probably my favorite BB video of all time. You boys brought back some memories with this one. The TPX Omaha and Easton Connection were the weapons of choice when I was in college in the early 2000s.
Yep, I went from high school to college ball from 2000-2001. The Reflex C-Core's (or really any Reflex from ~'96-2000) were just plain lethal, LITERALLY. My college roommate pitcher had to get reconstructive facial surgery from a shot back up the middle. In 8th grade, using an orange Reflex Extended, I drilled a liner up the middle that went off the pitcher's head and landed in shallow center field (and I probably only weighed 150 pounds). Needless to say, he was rushed to the hospital. The gold Omaha used in the video was only less hot because it was drop 3 instead of drop 5. What many of us did in college is adjust to a shorter bat to get a similar result (eg, I went from 33" 28oz Reflex in high school to the 32" 29 oz Omaha Gold in college). The trampoline effect of the bats hadn't changed - they were just heavier. Anyways, all our starters in high school had a home run in my senior year, with one kid eventually hitting OVER 50 in his high school career 😂
For those of us who played in the late 90s early 00s I'd had to say we would win the award for fastest reaction times on the defensive side of the game 🤣🤣
@@thechief1850 we still had pop you still had to put a good swing on it but it was much more fun with a juiced v8 in your hands compared to a turbo honda 🤣
That C-Core was the bat. Not just the performance, but the crack it made when you hit the ball... It just felt awesome! I still have a Little League one I saved, 29/19. My 6yo is using it this year in coach pitch.
My older brother still has one of our Tennessee Thumpers (the 34 inch) that he used to crush baseballs with. I mean hit the ball a mile. I still have my 35 inch Easton (Pop bought that and two 33 inch for me, one with a thin handle and one with a thicker handle). That 35 inch got me the best day of my life, in 1980, with two HR, a triple and a single and I was only 15. Thanks for bringing back so many wonderful memories from my youth.
There is something about watching that ball sail.....it still makes me smile inside. It's been 30 years since I was smashing them myself.....but seeing it now still makes me giggle. I love this channel man. Ive subbed on all of my phones and my PC.... I'll watch and like them all....keep on putting them out. Love from W KY.
I used that Reflex c core for my last two years of high school. I loved it. The c405 ultra version hit even harder than the one you showcased here. It was the BRX100-CX model. It was awesome watching this. Thanks!
The original blue zcore was nutty. I had the c405 as well but the blue zcore was on another level. They say that recreated one that was sold over in Korea (?) years ago is the exact same bat but I don't believe it. I still had my blue zcore about 4 years ago and messaged Will if he wanted me to send it to him but he never responded. Instead I sold it on eBay for $700 (!) dollars.
@@plasmac9 nice! I picked up the 20th anniversary z2k and the redline c core that they released in Korea in 2019. The ones that Will used in his video months back. I will never take them out of the wrapper, though. You’re right about the original z2k. That thing had lots of pop and was very durable compared to everything before it. Glad you made a lot of money on eBay with it, it’s a hot item.
@@plasmac9 there is a video on TH-cam of one of the engineers from Easton talking about the re-creation of those bats. It doesn’t contain Scandium because of its rarity but is a newly designed combination of aluminum and composite materials. I’m not sure where I bookmarked that video or I would share it with you.
That green Easton 80's bat (without the black band) was a world changer when I first discovered it about 1981. I swear the ball flew much further using that bat, and it felt so sweet when you connected with the ball.
I grew up on the s.s. of chicago and graduated 8th grade in 1999(class of '98') I had an Easton reflex in my last season before high school, and in that year, I hit the pitcher in the chest and stopped his heart, and that year, luckily we got a defibrillator and it saved his life. The same season, I hit a 430' grandslam to win the world series. I swear on everything I love. I loved that bat. I still have it. I was hitting 400'+ homeruns in games. I was average height and weight. My friends were always 2 grades ahead of me, and I was hitting way further than almost every kid in any league I was playing in. I could've probably played for a decent college, but being better than most my age was good enough. To be a college or pro baseball player, you need a certain mindset. It's the difference between being a 'winner' and a 'could have been'. I look back and regret not working harder and being 100% dedicated. We use to play games in high school at sox Park and I've hit 3 homeruns in 6 games played there. None of them made it out of the bullpen but still hit 3 where my favorite team plays. My team mate was brian bogusevic (bogy). He obviously had what it took to be a pro. He could hit further but I had a better batting average, better arm, and I could run way faster. My coaches had many talks with me about being more dedicated and my attitude. Bogy just had what it took to go to the next level and be a pro. I was happy when he was drafted (astros)and was at the game when he played the chicago White Sox.
Seeing these bats brought back some good memories. The one bat I used in the 90s was called a Black Magic. I hit the ball so damn hard and far with it. I hit 15 home runs in high school ball with it.
Class of '08 here. I started having flashbacks as soon as I heard that glorious sound. I got the bat either my freshman or sophomore year, and almost everyone on the team always wanted to use it lol (went to a small private school). Finally decided to try a composite bat (can't remember the model) for my senior year, and I wish I could have returned it. Used it for only two games before I went back to the TPX Gold.
It is amazing how much BBCOR killed the bats. I played high school ball from 2013-2016. My first season was the 2nd year of BBCOR restrictions. The bats were awful. Going from drop-10 fully composite LS Triton to an early Easton XL1 was terrible. However, my freshman year I played junior little league. We were making a run for the regional tournament (we came up just short). However, little league still allowed us to use BESR bats. Only one guy on our team had a BESR bat. Don't remember what model it was, but literally everyone on the team used it because it was so juiced compared to BBCOR.
Playing in the 90s 3rd base and coach insisted that I always play in on the grass. Would not allow me to play back on any play, in any count, ever. Those 90s bats were just insane.
I had to play 3rd base one game, im happy i did. My normal posistions were 1st and pitcher. There was 1 out, runners on 1st and 2nd. The 4 hole hitter squarched a line drive down the 3rd baseline, i was already on the bag so i just stuck my glove out and i caught it, without thinking i threw it to 2nd and the 2nd baseman threw it to 1st but it sailed over 1st's head. Not that it mattered anyway there were 3 outs. I couldn't beileve what just happened and all the adults there couldnt either. A text book bang bang double play from 9 year olds. It was quite the play.
I had that 80s Easton. Never knew how much pop it had until i had to use it after my Worth Copperhead was stolen with all my baseball stuff from my dads car. I always thought it was just an old bat my dad used for the sliding glass door as a second lock. I found out fast that it was a destroyer of baseballs. Love that bat
Same. My Dad had one just around the house with all the random sports equipment that every man aquires. Never realized what I was swinging when it was the first full size bat that got put in my hands.
First of all, thanks for making me feel ancient by describing the 70's bat as 50 years old. Graduated high school in '78, college in 83 and used the old Easton 34-30. I had assumed that they would be more juiced than the BBCORs. Nice to see that they were roughly equivalent and that the few homeruns I hit were legit. 😄
You know, I'd absolutely LOVE to see Marucci, Rawlings, Easton, etc all commit to making a bat as hot as you can with current technology, just to see what it's capable of. Like the LeMans LMP of baseball bats just to see how insane these things could be if not for BBCOR and others. Give points for pop, swing weight, durability, etc and see who comes out on top. Of course, BB Bros has to be the one to demo them. :D
Thing is idk why they'd do it other than just to see. They wouldn't make any money off of them since they wouldn't be legal to use so putting all the R&D into that would be a waste of time and money from a business stand point.
@mitchconner2021 That's why I said it's like LMP - prototype for exhibition only. Maybe they could work with MLB guys for a longest home run competition to exhibit them, etc.
@@CybrSlydr Love the idea of this. I mean, you think of someone like Aaron Judge unloading with one of the bats from the video. How high could he push exit velo? And with a fully juiced bat? That'd be awesome. Would love to watch it.
I should’ve kept all of the baseball bats I used when I was a kid! We had so many of the “Thumpers” in our team practice equipment bag! Graduated HS in ‘98! Our bats then were crazy! You confirmed it! Just came across this video, great baseball content, very original! Love it! There are so many different things to compare in baseball, you guys should never run out of ideas! You know I had to subscribe! 💪👍😎
I graduated in '98 also. We had a catcher on one of the leagues i was in use a c-core (it was drop 4 i think 33/29) and hit 40+ homers in a 35 game season. I was a starting pitcher and you had to attempt to not allow anyone to hit the ball. Either pop fly home runs or screamers through the infield. Had a few 140+ pitch games.
i graduated in 1998, I had a reflex gold, a reflex extended, and a tpx gold. All of them dropped nukes. Honestly, imo the extended was the most consistent. You could hit off the handle or the end of the bat and still crush it. The gold just felt perfect in my hands at least. You didn't feel a thing when you connected, it was balanced so well compared to the other 2. Lastly the TPX was the most inconsistent but when you hit that sweet spot you would hear a ping that would make your ears ring and that ball was going 400+. One thing I do want to point out is these bats made us good fielders. The amount of times I almost got killed at 3rd was scary, had to have some serious reaction times back then. Great video!
I grew up in Miami, and graduated high school in 1994 and college in 1999. The bats we used back then were stoopid. I knew the results as soon as I saw the caption, and when you got to the Reflex I was like "Cool. Video game mode, commence". Take the juiced bats and add in the juiced OG steroid bois and you can imagine some of the bombs we saw growing up. Gawd, I miss it lol
Mid '90s Copperhead should be in the mix. I had 32" TPX milk-bat, 2 teammates had Copperhead; 33" & 32". I used the 32" Copper because it embarrassed my TPX.
90s? Maybe there's a discussion. But the first TPX bats we had in the 80s felt dead next to the green Eastons and even the Black Magics. Tougher to find the sweet spot.
The 1970's Easton B5 was THE bat of choice when I played.. 1977-1986. Once we got to 13-14yrs old, the woods went away and the Easton and an occasional TN Thumper.. I told my son's varsity players about the Easton being an actual hot bat and they were like.. yeah, okay old man.. I posted this video to the team page (Waukesha South).. with an resounding "I told you !!!" LOL Isotoner grips with pine tar. No gloves ?? instant blisters ! I am 55 now and have been hoping and waiting that you'd eventually try one.. They came in different colors too. Blue, green, red & black stripes. I always used the blue. These were SUPER popular. If you would have gotten it in on the hands though ?? IT HURT.
Ah! That's the C Core i wanted to see! Those bats were dangerous, and INSANELY fun to use. I put one out dead center with that CCore and didn't even know bc it got out so fast. Iooked up and had no clue what happened. CCore was too hot, definitely not safe. Awesome that you got to try it out. The Omaha was great too. The way it was weighted felt like it didn't weigh anything so you could absolutely rip it through the zone.
I was always pumped as a kid, when someone would let me use their Easton or TPX bat in little league in the 90's. My parents wouldn't buy me one, so I felt like a king whenever I got to use one lol.
Graduated HS in 03 and had the TPX Gold and absolutely loved that bat. It felt lighter and more distributed for weight and able to have quick bat speed. Busted it out the other day and it is still a thing of beauty
I graduated in 2000, and used that Reflex almost exclusively my senior year (it was the team bat bought by the school, we ALL used it!) I had a green and gold TPX that I used my junior year, and I don't think it was too far off from the Reflex either. Growing up I hit with my dad's old green Eastern... Probably the same model used here. Of course, I was like 12 taking swings with it, so no idea the pop it had! Great memories!
I graduated in 08’ but all of the bats you mentioned were in my bag at one point or another (youngest brother hand-me-downs). My TPX exploded a few years ago in the cages (pos) and my Reflex’ core became waterlogged. Believe it or not, my 80’s red Eastern is still kicking strong to this day. They certainly dont make them like they used to
That green and gold tpx was probably the original Omaha. I graduated in 2000 as well and remember swinging those. I always went back to Easton for some reason tho.
The orange stealth was legendary because of the tiny cracks that straight up juiced the bay and automatically added ~30’ to all pop up’s. Would only have been fair for the stealth if it was juiced.
That's what I'm saying! Using a non-broken in BESR composite bat is pointless because they were intentionally designed to FAIL the BESR test AFTER being well broken in. That's where the whole concept of bat rolling came from. You'd have dudes in the dugout standing on their DeMarini cF3 and Stealth Comps, rolling them under their weight because it gave those bats SIGNIFICANTLY more pop. It's literally the entire reason why BESR was done away with, and then most composite and 2 piece bats practically disappeared overnight. BESR was the pinnacle of bat technology.
@@GR8APE69besr bats were far from the pinnacle of bat tech. You must remember that the tech inside the 90s bats has broken down over time and have a steeper performance drop off from their thinner walls. Besr alloys are comparable to modern day usssa alloys. Even if the stealth was not broken in, it should still be better than the besrs/u-trip performance. The 90s bats have performance similar to modern usssa composites, which START out hotter than usssa alloys, which I've already confirmed are comparable to modern usssa alloys
Hearing the sound off that Reflex, immediately teleported my mind back 25 years to an exact baseball field. My first ever home run, first at bat of the season with a brand new z-core. Good ole days
You guys should try the Mizuno bats of the '80s. As a player from that era, I can tell you those bats had crazy thump and a huge sweetspot By the way, the biggest gain of aluminum bats in comparison with wooden bats is not the maximum exit velo, but the help a batter got from the bigger sweetspots, resulting in substantial higher average exit velo
I used the c core in hs. Hit so many bombs. Pop ups were bombs. The redline was good too but the c405 was my favorite and my redline broke after 1 season. I definitely wouldnt have hit so well with today's bats.
I had both to. I still have my Redline and I think the CCore is at my dads… my Redline is much hotter from what I can tell. The sweet spot is bigger than the CCore.
I had the same Reflex in high school. Hit a ball 486 feet in 1998 as a senior in the high school homer derby at Coors field. There were guys who were using shaved versions of the bat and it basically made them deadly weapons.
Well, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I graduated HS in '97, pitched in college, and have played adult amateur ball ever since. This is no surprise to me. The one I remember well was the late 90's Louisville Slugger Air Attack, which I would like to see go head to head with the C-Core. Everyone was using those two back then, and almost every hitter was hitting bombs. It was like the whole bat was the sweet spot. Being a pitcher then wasn't easy...
As a pitcher i had someone bunt a fastball into the outfield with an Omaha Gold. I HATED these bats and scared as heck of comebackers. If you had an exaggerated follow through it was Russian Roulette if one came up the middle. High 80's fastballs rocketing off the bat 😮.
You can just hear the difference between the bats. Alloy is unique where the lower the pitch, the hotter the bat. With composites, it kinda works that way but not always and not precisely so. I would LOVE to see you do the same comparison with senior league bats The drop 8s from the 90s, early 2000s 1.15 bpf bats like drop 8.5 tpx response, and the modern classics from 10s and 20s like xl-1, green zen, cat 9/x composite and hype fire
This is the only channel on YT where the production values increase by an order of magnitude with each episode. Dudes rocking ball trails now? How are they leveling up so quickly, lol?
Man, this was so fun to watch! Playing 3rd base was rough back in the day 😂...I just missed the 90's, I remember the 2000's Omaha and Stealth vividly. I also remember finding my Uncle's Easton from the 80's at my grandfather's house and playing with it. Man, the memories that just flooded back!
You aren’t kidding about third base, I can’t tell you how many times I just stuck my glove out where I thought the ball was going to go and hoping for the best because I sure wasn’t seeing the ball.
For real, the Voodoo and Vexxum were so hot in the mid-2000s. Personally I always preferred the red/black Stealth BST2. The only three home runs I ever hit post-Little League were with a slightly dented BST2
@@tmtmtlsmlthose bats were hot forsure. Did you ever see/swing the white Nike aero fuse? Came out late 2007 early 2008. It was absolutely disgusting. I had one and everyone swung my bat over the bats they had.
@@tmtmtlsmlI remember hating the 06 vexxums my senior year when the school bought them. Used them 2 days in practice, then went straight to sport mart and bought the red and grey stealth 😂 needless to say my mom wasn’t happy to be wasting that kind of money for 3 months left of baseball. Bless her heart!
They were for sure hot but had pretty bad feedback to the point you couldn't necessarily tell how well you caught it. At least for me as a teen at the time.
So basically what we learned is these bat companies said they were "BESR certified" but in reality they were just doing what they wanted to do the whole time. I want to see what Easton could come up with if they had absolutely no restrictions on bats.
If you go play EA Sports Triple Play 2001 and catch all of one in a Home Run Derby I'm pretty sure that's what bats would sound like now if exit speeds weren't limited.
@justarandominternetdude2579 it stands for bat exit speed ratio, basically they measure the exit velocity of the ball and it had to be in a certain range of speed, thats how I understood it.
@@TheEmpire822Yup. Different from BBCOR which stands for Batted Ball Coefficient of Restitution, which is a fancy way of saying how much the bat is able to multiply force. The problem with BESR is that measuring exit speed instead of the multiplying force of the bat itself allowed for the BESR stats to be fudged. That's why BESR bats were the era of "breaking in" composite connection style bats. A brand new bat would pass the BESR regulation, but a "broken in" BESR bat would end up increasing its exit velocity by over 10 MPH in some cases. That's ultimately why the regulation system was changed, because manufacturers bad figured out how to get around the regulation and it started what was basically an arms race in bat technology. That's also why the Stealth bat he's using in this video doesn't win, because it was a brand new bat. If he were to find an older one that somebody has used and taken a lot of BP with first, I guarantee you that Stealth comp would've come in first in this video.
Nice! I played from the mid 80s to late 90s and used several of these bats. Lots of good memories showing up to practice being the first one to have a new model and everybody wanting to use it. My very first bat was actually a Tennessee Thumper but for a small kid.
I still have my Maroon TPX bat from 94-95. It had a crazy sweet spot like no other bat I tried at that time. My entire high school team used it. I still take BP with it today. This video took me back to the 90's for sure. Great video.
Man I had that Maroon one and our first game junior year the end cap blew off of it on about a 30 degree day here in the great lakes region. The warranty replacement was the white ceramic with red and blue logos and wasn't nearly as hot. At least I didn't think so.
@@jaydeshetler Wow, that sucks. Mine has a missing piece where the cap and the bat meet but it doesn't seem to affect the performance (at least I don't think so)
Grew up playing in the 90s. I still remember when a kid got that Easton when I was playing. Needless to say everyone on the team was using that thing. Then we got hit with the BESR reg bats when I got into high school.
I swung that green Easton starting in middle school, so around 1992. All my friends were getting the shiny expensive bats and I always went back to the Easton. It raked. Other big bats around then was the black Mizuno with the big ass knob on the end and nearly anything TPX. My younger brother had a blue/green one that he shattered.
I think the Louisville TPX was a game changer. I used it in the late 90s when I played for the Kelowna Jays. CU31 Alloy, Black and Yellow -4 (33/29) BB6. I hit so many dingers with that bat its crazy. I still have it too. Before that I used an Easton Ultra Light (-5) BX1.
I remember our high school team had all the TPX’s. The Response, the EXO Grid, the Omaha Orange, the Dynasty, C555. You name it, we got it lol. Throw back bro with that Omaha Gold!
Yeah… being a pitcher between the unregulated and besr age was kinda scary. The Omaha scared the crap out of me. Then the tpx genx and the tpx c555 platinum were scary AF too.
c555 platinum and the genx for real!!!!! i used every bat he had in there until 2020s because I was in college as a pitcher only in 2004. But That old easton (or similar because I was in tee ball), the ccore, stealth, omaha, z2k (loved that fake wood grain hahaha). My buddy hit two grand slams in one INNING using the c-core. They checked it bc they thought he corked it. we were 13....so 1997 c-core extended I think
I’ll defend the black magic til the day I die. Hurt like absolute shit. But as a lead off hitter going for contact with murderers behind me, I just had to be on. And there’s a couple inches on this bat that let’s you throw the ball back exactly where you want it. Dog shit for big cuts though. We had a z2k for that haha I distinctly remember going damn near death when we moved inside to hit cages with the Omaha. Can’t stand that ping . Great trip down memory lane boys
Will got the dawg in him at 8:26 😅 Dude, the Z2K will forever be iconic. Wish you swung with that more. Also, I can confirm the Omaha Gold was an absolute sleeper GOAT. I hit one in Palm Springs during a Travel Tourney on a fenceless field. I was batting lefty more and was more contact hitter from the left side. I waited and just put a solid swing on the ball, didn't overdue it. Just went back to measure it since I have old ass grainy footage of it. Measured 415 feet on Google Earth 😮 That's freaking nuts bro. I remember that swing clearly and it was a great swing but not a power wing for sure. This bat was awesome haha. I'd like to see you do a showdown of just all old bats you can find or have. Seriously.
Honestly IMO the Worth Copperhead BC45A is one of the hottest bats of the early 2000s (not sure on the release date). I used a -7 version and the ball would fly, but once I tried the -3 version it was a whole new ballgame. Unless you were jammed, every pitch you would make contact on it felt like the ball was gonna fly 400 feet.
I played Babe Ruth Ball with the VERY end of the unrestricted bats (I had a Reflex Easton in Blue) and the VERY beginning of BESR (Alot of Kids swung the the Yellow Omaha). Very little difference between those two bats in my opinion. Flash forward to High School (Right Smack in Middle of BESR), the orange Stealth Easton was probably hands down the most popular bat, but it was pricy. I had an Easton Connection with a Sc888 alloy. Loved that bat.
I was playing when they made the switch to BESR. The biggest changes were drop 3 instead of drop 5 and they required the barrel of the bat to be smaller: 3 3/4 to 3 5/8.
I was never a fan of composite bats period. That orange stealth never did it for me. But I did like the more traditional sc900 Stealth. I had the Black one with the gold/yellow composite handle.
I remember getting The C Core for Christmas one year.. The following baseball season, I hit my first over the fence home run and six more.. I loved that bat so much..
The orange stealth! Man, that brings back a lot of memories that bat was one of my favorites. I also loved my red and white Voodoo through high school.
I still have my 80’s Easton just like that one. It was an awesome bat, but had nothing on the early 90’s black silver and red tpx. I seen absolute bombs hit with that bat
I wish I would have known this when I played High School ball. We had a million of those reflexes sitting around and no one used them because we thought they were "old" and not as good as the new bats out (2001-2005 timeframe)
I was born in 91 & nobody can convince me that 90-01 wasn't the greatest era of the human race. Everything was just different & special. TV, movies, music, sports. It was all insane & special.
yea born in 89 and I kinda agree. Some of it though is just being an adult in general mostly sucks and our current economy makes it all so much worse. Im glad I got to see the Cubs win the world series but its definitely been all downhill from there😂
I wish they’d use the first or second air attack. Those bats were beasts back in the day with the balloon containing 30 psi of nitrogen. I’m not sure how or if it (the nitrogen) would even be effective after 20+ years, though.
I used to see the Tennessee Thumper at Sportsmart when I was a kid. The 1980’s Easton is my favorite. I remember some of my high school teammates in the 90’s using that bat. However, that 1990’s Easton Reflex is a BEAST!
I had the Reflex Extended in HS and it was amazing!! In college I used an Omaha 2000 and the Omaha Gold. The Omaha 2000 had the most pop out of them all and the sweet spot was twice the size of the Gold. The Omaha 2000 was when they went from -5 to -3 and it looked like an oversized softball bat. 😂😂
I had a hunter green Omaha 2000 and it was my favorite bat once I got to HS. Before that the Reflex/Redline were the best. I was loving the Reflex when all my buddies were using the TPX White Lightning (whatvwe called it anyway it was just a white with black writing TPX)The Omahas were so fire.
Thanks Will. I’m always bragging to my son and his team (he coaches) about how good I was in the 90’s. After they watch this video, the gig is up for me 😢. Because hell yeah the bats were juiced back then. Guess I will go back to telling them the story of how I scored 4 touchdowns in the championship game against Andrew Johnson High 🤣 🤘😎 BBB’s
Awesome vid. The sound of that reflex takes me back to my childhood watching the men's league when they used those -5's and 2 3'4" barrel and just destroyed baseballs. Then one year the league went all wood-bat and some guys who were pounding homeruns never hit another homerun again.
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The 1990s is when bats started to get ridiculously expensive and the tech was rapidly advancing. Nice video!
If you know that feeling then you know. What a great time
But they are not better. So is it advancing?
Same with the steroid abuse!
i remember some of the ultra thinwall stupid pricey "Single tourney durability" Worth Copperheads that either lasered doubles and triples wherever you thought they should go or fractured hands if you made poor contact.
@@918_xDx Those things were the worst on cold mornings... 40 degrees and drizzling and you get jammed on a fastball, your hands would go numb for 2 innings. In little league we had one of the OG ones with the cap cup so deep you could drink water out of it and those were almost as bad. Also had the smallest sweet spot ever, but if you ever got into one it would crack like a gunshot and the ball would just sizzle off the barrel.
I was 18yrs old, 152lbs, and hit absolute nukes in 1996. Thank you Easton C-Core, you meant the world to me LOL.
Same here! 17 yo, 165 lbs, only two diggers that year but I only flied out like twice (line drives and ground balls). The Reflex had legitimate pop, but it wasn’t that durable. Me and my brother destroyed that bat. Good memories
I was just thinking about hitting nukes with the Eastons !!!
I was 14-16 and skinny and was mashing it with my Redline C-core, everyone on the team used it lol
We got the Black, Orange and Silver C-Core my senior year. We all went for the fence, most team strikeouts ever that year lol. We would lay it out in the sun all day before games, I guess we thought it would hit harder if it had more heat in it
Wood bat era. 17 years old, 155 lbs. Batted leadoff with a 34 ounce Willie McCovey model Louisville Slugger gripped at the knob. Nothing in my life has been as satisfying as the sound of centering a fastball. Crack! God I loved baseball back then.
Everybody running to their grandparents house to look for 70’s bats in the garage.
There’s a batting cage that I go to, been open since the 60’s (also a mini golf course cause of course it is) and they have some of those original 70’s 80’s bats. Still hanging in the cages
They are always at a thrift store for like 3-10 bucks lol they just need new grips
I loved my Easton b5.
OMW
@@jaket2274wouldn’t happen to be talking about castle park? Lol
The sound of that CCore and TPX brought back all the feels. Those two came out right before my team got to within a game of the LLWS and we were using those two models throughout that tourney. Such insane pop.
The Gold Omaha and red stealth were the best, I used the Omaha in LL and Pony league and the stealth in Pony and HS. I still have my red Stealth, I lost my orange comp stealth.
With the reflex c core, if you caught a fastball into the sweet spot, you would get a trampoline sensation of the ball sinking into the bat. It’s a pretty indescribable feeling but you knew that you hit it just right.
I was pretty hyped to see Will using that model, it was the first time I’ve seen BBB use it.
Worked so well teammates wouldn't hide their bats, but tell me to use it. My parents never bought me a nice one!
@@MrBryant240sx I also shared my bats but would get so mad when teammates would tap the dirt out of their metal cleats with it.
That bat did have a nice feeling sweet spot. Still the best bat I ever hit with. It got stolen out of my truck 😢
Too bad you could get the TPX Air Attack 2. It made the C-Core look dead. That beautiful bright blue with orange trim was EPIC.
Right those were great, same as redline z-core, that and the tpx platinum were my favorites looking back
Probably my favorite BB video of all time. You boys brought back some memories with this one. The TPX Omaha and Easton Connection were the weapons of choice when I was in college in the early 2000s.
Was it just me or did tpx’s generally lost it pop faster than the Eastons?
Yep, I went from high school to college ball from 2000-2001.
The Reflex C-Core's (or really any Reflex from ~'96-2000) were just plain lethal, LITERALLY. My college roommate pitcher had to get reconstructive facial surgery from a shot back up the middle.
In 8th grade, using an orange Reflex Extended, I drilled a liner up the middle that went off the pitcher's head and landed in shallow center field (and I probably only weighed 150 pounds). Needless to say, he was rushed to the hospital.
The gold Omaha used in the video was only less hot because it was drop 3 instead of drop 5. What many of us did in college is adjust
to a shorter bat to get a similar result (eg, I went from 33" 28oz Reflex in high school to the 32" 29 oz Omaha Gold in college). The trampoline effect of the bats hadn't changed - they were just heavier.
Anyways, all our starters in high school had a home run in my senior year, with one kid eventually hitting OVER 50 in his high school career 😂
For those of us who played in the late 90s early 00s I'd had to say we would win the award for fastest reaction times on the defensive side of the game 🤣🤣
I was so glad I played outfield instead of infield. lol
Fair point. But stop bragging about all the 20+ HR seasons. @ all the 40+ year olds that thought they had pop 😂
@@thechief1850 we still had pop you still had to put a good swing on it but it was much more fun with a juiced v8 in your hands compared to a turbo honda 🤣
@@CybrSlydr I played the hot corners I've seen webbing ripped out of gloves on a sharp ground ball it was alot of fun
I was a SS. Can confirm. Loved the Redline though.
That C-Core was the bat. Not just the performance, but the crack it made when you hit the ball... It just felt awesome! I still have a Little League one I saved, 29/19. My 6yo is using it this year in coach pitch.
Yeah, the sound it made was fantastic. You described it quite well, it was a crack sound. Not a ping, not a ding and not a thud.
My older brother still has one of our Tennessee Thumpers (the 34 inch) that he used to crush baseballs with. I mean hit the ball a mile. I still have my 35 inch Easton (Pop bought that and two 33 inch for me, one with a thin handle and one with a thicker handle). That 35 inch got me the best day of my life, in 1980, with two HR, a triple and a single and I was only 15. Thanks for bringing back so many wonderful memories from my youth.
There is something about watching that ball sail.....it still makes me smile inside. It's been 30 years since I was smashing them myself.....but seeing it now still makes me giggle. I love this channel man. Ive subbed on all of my phones and my PC.... I'll watch and like them all....keep on putting them out. Love from W KY.
I love the idea the old bats are way better than I thought
It’s not an idea, it’s facts
The reason the regulations are what they are today is because of the "old" bats.
@@cgbach Even with no punctuation, I knew they meant they loved the video idea.
it's actually scary how hot they are i was never i hr hitter i used bbcor bats but when i felt that besr bat in my hands i was crushing balls
@@M-ps6ve The fuck is wrong with you? Does being a prick to people add a little bit of joy to your miserable life?
I used that Reflex c core for my last two years of high school. I loved it. The c405 ultra version hit even harder than the one you showcased here. It was the BRX100-CX model. It was awesome watching this. Thanks!
The original blue zcore was nutty. I had the c405 as well but the blue zcore was on another level. They say that recreated one that was sold over in Korea (?) years ago is the exact same bat but I don't believe it. I still had my blue zcore about 4 years ago and messaged Will if he wanted me to send it to him but he never responded. Instead I sold it on eBay for $700 (!) dollars.
@@plasmac9 nice! I picked up the 20th anniversary z2k and the redline c core that they released in Korea in 2019. The ones that Will used in his video months back. I will never take them out of the wrapper, though.
You’re right about the original z2k. That thing had lots of pop and was very durable compared to everything before it. Glad you made a lot of money on eBay with it, it’s a hot item.
@@plasmac9 there is a video on TH-cam of one of the engineers from Easton talking about the re-creation of those bats. It doesn’t contain Scandium because of its rarity but is a newly designed combination of aluminum and composite materials. I’m not sure where I bookmarked that video or I would share it with you.
@@MyYTaccountName That makes sense. I doubted they were exact replicas.
That green Easton 80's bat (without the black band) was a world changer when I first discovered it about 1981. I swear the ball flew much further using that bat, and it felt so sweet when you connected with the ball.
You could t kill those bats. Later, when the 90s rolled around, I used that bat in the cages
My brother used that same green bat, it had great pop, I used the black magic, I felt it was better than the green bats though.
I used it in '88. We called it the Green Goblin
Black magic was where it was at
Think of how the pitcher feels. He's even closer.... on EVERY at bat
I grew up on the s.s. of chicago and graduated 8th grade in 1999(class of '98') I had an Easton reflex in my last season before high school, and in that year, I hit the pitcher in the chest and stopped his heart, and that year, luckily we got a defibrillator and it saved his life. The same season, I hit a 430' grandslam to win the world series. I swear on everything I love. I loved that bat. I still have it. I was hitting 400'+ homeruns in games. I was average height and weight. My friends were always 2 grades ahead of me, and I was hitting way further than almost every kid in any league I was playing in. I could've probably played for a decent college, but being better than most my age was good enough. To be a college or pro baseball player, you need a certain mindset. It's the difference between being a 'winner' and a 'could have been'. I look back and regret not working harder and being 100% dedicated. We use to play games in high school at sox Park and I've hit 3 homeruns in 6 games played there. None of them made it out of the bullpen but still hit 3 where my favorite team plays. My team mate was brian bogusevic (bogy). He obviously had what it took to be a pro. He could hit further but I had a better batting average, better arm, and I could run way faster. My coaches had many talks with me about being more dedicated and my attitude. Bogy just had what it took to go to the next level and be a pro. I was happy when he was drafted (astros)and was at the game when he played the chicago White Sox.
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Seeing these bats brought back some good memories. The one bat I used in the 90s was called a Black Magic. I hit the ball so damn hard and far with it. I hit 15 home runs in high school ball with it.
The sound of that Omaha Gold is unmatched. That’s the sound of college baseball
Class of '08 here. I started having flashbacks as soon as I heard that glorious sound. I got the bat either my freshman or sophomore year, and almost everyone on the team always wanted to use it lol (went to a small private school). Finally decided to try a composite bat (can't remember the model) for my senior year, and I wish I could have returned it. Used it for only two games before I went back to the TPX Gold.
'04 here. Loved the tpx gold had such a huge sweet spot. Also used an Easton triple 7 that was hotter than the sun.
It is amazing how much BBCOR killed the bats. I played high school ball from 2013-2016. My first season was the 2nd year of BBCOR restrictions. The bats were awful. Going from drop-10 fully composite LS Triton to an early Easton XL1 was terrible.
However, my freshman year I played junior little league. We were making a run for the regional tournament (we came up just short). However, little league still allowed us to use BESR bats. Only one guy on our team had a BESR bat. Don't remember what model it was, but literally everyone on the team used it because it was so juiced compared to BBCOR.
yep brought back a lot of tournament ball memories!
I remember denting/cracking several reflex and Omaha .. . 😂
Playing in the 90s 3rd base and coach insisted that I always play in on the grass. Would not allow me to play back on any play, in any count, ever. Those 90s bats were just insane.
playing 3rd base in front of the bag when they've got a massive righty up to bat is traumatizing
I had to play 3rd base one game, im happy i did. My normal posistions were 1st and pitcher.
There was 1 out, runners on 1st and 2nd. The 4 hole hitter squarched a line drive down the 3rd baseline, i was already on the bag so i just stuck my glove out and i caught it, without thinking i threw it to 2nd and the 2nd baseman threw it to 1st but it sailed over 1st's head. Not that it mattered anyway there were 3 outs.
I couldn't beileve what just happened and all the adults there couldnt either. A text book bang bang double play from 9 year olds. It was quite the play.
@@JonezBBQ For real, sometimes you'd stop it without ever even seeing it, or you'd see stars when the hop was bad.
used the Thumper in high school in 1980....seeing it still perform makes me happy
I had that 80s Easton. Never knew how much pop it had until i had to use it after my Worth Copperhead was stolen with all my baseball stuff from my dads car. I always thought it was just an old bat my dad used for the sliding glass door as a second lock. I found out fast that it was a destroyer of baseballs. Love that bat
Same. My Dad had one just around the house with all the random sports equipment that every man aquires. Never realized what I was swinging when it was the first full size bat that got put in my hands.
7:49 that ring on that bat was amazing
First of all, thanks for making me feel ancient by describing the 70's bat as 50 years old. Graduated high school in '78, college in 83 and used the old Easton 34-30. I had assumed that they would be more juiced than the BBCORs. Nice to see that they were roughly equivalent and that the few homeruns I hit were legit. 😄
Math is a bitch
You know, I'd absolutely LOVE to see Marucci, Rawlings, Easton, etc all commit to making a bat as hot as you can with current technology, just to see what it's capable of. Like the LeMans LMP of baseball bats just to see how insane these things could be if not for BBCOR and others. Give points for pop, swing weight, durability, etc and see who comes out on top.
Of course, BB Bros has to be the one to demo them. :D
Thing is idk why they'd do it other than just to see. They wouldn't make any money off of them since they wouldn't be legal to use so putting all the R&D into that would be a waste of time and money from a business stand point.
@mitchconner2021 That's why I said it's like LMP - prototype for exhibition only. Maybe they could work with MLB guys for a longest home run competition to exhibit them, etc.
@@CybrSlydr Love the idea of this. I mean, you think of someone like Aaron Judge unloading with one of the bats from the video. How high could he push exit velo? And with a fully juiced bat? That'd be awesome. Would love to watch it.
@@austinfontenot8955 Give him a rolled DeMarini cF3 just to see what happens 😂
They'd last until the first lawsuit that possibly bankrupts the company.
I should’ve kept all of the baseball bats I used when I was a kid! We had so many of the “Thumpers” in our team practice equipment bag! Graduated HS in ‘98! Our bats then were crazy! You confirmed it! Just came across this video, great baseball content, very original! Love it! There are so many different things to compare in baseball, you guys should never run out of ideas! You know I had to subscribe! 💪👍😎
I graduated in '98 also. We had a catcher on one of the leagues i was in use a c-core (it was drop 4 i think 33/29) and hit 40+ homers in a 35 game season. I was a starting pitcher and you had to attempt to not allow anyone to hit the ball. Either pop fly home runs or screamers through the infield. Had a few 140+ pitch games.
@@serslack6175 it was pretty crazy compared to the little league bats we used a few years before that.
My first aluminum bat was the orange Thumper. Loved it
i graduated in 1998, I had a reflex gold, a reflex extended, and a tpx gold. All of them dropped nukes. Honestly, imo the extended was the most consistent. You could hit off the handle or the end of the bat and still crush it. The gold just felt perfect in my hands at least. You didn't feel a thing when you connected, it was balanced so well compared to the other 2. Lastly the TPX was the most inconsistent but when you hit that sweet spot you would hear a ping that would make your ears ring and that ball was going 400+. One thing I do want to point out is these bats made us good fielders. The amount of times I almost got killed at 3rd was scary, had to have some serious reaction times back then. Great video!
I grew up in Miami, and graduated high school in 1994 and college in 1999. The bats we used back then were stoopid. I knew the results as soon as I saw the caption, and when you got to the Reflex I was like "Cool. Video game mode, commence". Take the juiced bats and add in the juiced OG steroid bois and you can imagine some of the bombs we saw growing up. Gawd, I miss it lol
You guys were awesome in 97. Pat Burrell was a delight to watch
I think the next "nostalgia video" needs to be an all time 90's shootout Easton vs TPX. This needs to be settled.
Mid '90s Copperhead should be in the mix. I had 32" TPX milk-bat, 2 teammates had Copperhead; 33" & 32". I used the 32" Copper because it embarrassed my TPX.
I crushed the Easton in the 90's. Switched to a TPS Bill Gatti model and stunk up the joint. I loved the feel of it though.
For the 90s. And then for the 2000s it would be Easton vs DeMarini.
Tooootally
90s? Maybe there's a discussion. But the first TPX bats we had in the 80s felt dead next to the green Eastons and even the Black Magics. Tougher to find the sweet spot.
The 1970's Easton B5 was THE bat of choice when I played.. 1977-1986. Once we got to 13-14yrs old, the woods went away and the Easton and an occasional TN Thumper.. I told my son's varsity players about the Easton being an actual hot bat and they were like.. yeah, okay old man.. I posted this video to the team page (Waukesha South).. with an resounding "I told you !!!" LOL Isotoner grips with pine tar. No gloves ?? instant blisters ! I am 55 now and have been hoping and waiting that you'd eventually try one.. They came in different colors too. Blue, green, red & black stripes. I always used the blue. These were SUPER popular. If you would have gotten it in on the hands though ?? IT HURT.
The sound of the Easton reflex and the z2k is iconic, it immediately takes me back.
Those model stealths and the LSS1’s were every kids dream growing up in the 2000’s
HS ball ChinoHigh 1976,about cried to see my old bat,one of the best videos i have ever seen,ment a lot,thank you so much!
Chino High in SoCal?
That's lamelo and em
was thinking the same thing. @@Johnny_Chingas13
Ah! That's the C Core i wanted to see! Those bats were dangerous, and INSANELY fun to use.
I put one out dead center with that CCore and didn't even know bc it got out so fast. Iooked up and had no clue what happened.
CCore was too hot, definitely not safe.
Awesome that you got to try it out.
The Omaha was great too. The way it was weighted felt like it didn't weigh anything so you could absolutely rip it through the zone.
I was always pumped as a kid, when someone would let me use their Easton or TPX bat in little league in the 90's. My parents wouldn't buy me one, so I felt like a king whenever I got to use one lol.
Absolutely, when one of my friends had them I'd be like "Just leave it at the plate dude, we all want it."
Im 59 now, I used to carry around my green Easton in a special bag, 33-30. Loved that thing
This is such a comfort video for me I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve seen this 😂
The Easton Black Magic bats were the best ever.
Facts
I have that bat!
@@DebbiTalbott I still have my Easton Black Magic and Easton Featherweight. My son keeps asking if he can use them when he gets older.
The Thumper was the bat my buddy carried in the trunk of his car for protection 25 years ago. It was multipurpose use hahaha
I have that exact green Easton sitting in my garage with decades of spider webs 🕸️ on it. Such great memories with that bat.
I want to send this video to my HS coach from the '90s as an explanation for any 1-hoppers I let through at third base. Geez...those were hot bats.
Graduated HS in 98!! Did little league all the way to HS days before stopping. The sound of the ping still gives me chills decades later!
Graduated HS in 03 and had the TPX Gold and absolutely loved that bat. It felt lighter and more distributed for weight and able to have quick bat speed. Busted it out the other day and it is still a thing of beauty
I had the TPX Omaha, loved it. Always used a balanced bat all the way through, definitely felt that way
I know I want to bust my old bat out now lol. I graduated from H.S in 03 too. Sucks getting old! I miss my Baseball, Basketball and Football days!
I graduated in 2000, and used that Reflex almost exclusively my senior year (it was the team bat bought by the school, we ALL used it!) I had a green and gold TPX that I used my junior year, and I don't think it was too far off from the Reflex either. Growing up I hit with my dad's old green Eastern... Probably the same model used here. Of course, I was like 12 taking swings with it, so no idea the pop it had! Great memories!
I graduated in 08’ but all of the bats you mentioned were in my bag at one point or another (youngest brother hand-me-downs). My TPX exploded a few years ago in the cages (pos) and my Reflex’ core became waterlogged. Believe it or not, my 80’s red Eastern is still kicking strong to this day. They certainly dont make them like they used to
That green and gold tpx was probably the original Omaha. I graduated in 2000 as well and remember swinging those. I always went back to Easton for some reason tho.
The orange stealth was legendary because of the tiny cracks that straight up juiced the bay and automatically added ~30’ to all pop up’s. Would only have been fair for the stealth if it was juiced.
That's what I'm saying! Using a non-broken in BESR composite bat is pointless because they were intentionally designed to FAIL the BESR test AFTER being well broken in. That's where the whole concept of bat rolling came from. You'd have dudes in the dugout standing on their DeMarini cF3 and Stealth Comps, rolling them under their weight because it gave those bats SIGNIFICANTLY more pop. It's literally the entire reason why BESR was done away with, and then most composite and 2 piece bats practically disappeared overnight. BESR was the pinnacle of bat technology.
I honestly hated seeing anyone use one of those. I knew it was trouble
@@GR8APE69 Exactly....that's when umps started thoroughly inspecting all the bats for cracks for "safety" reasons.
@@GR8APE69besr bats were far from the pinnacle of bat tech. You must remember that the tech inside the 90s bats has broken down over time and have a steeper performance drop off from their thinner walls. Besr alloys are comparable to modern day usssa alloys. Even if the stealth was not broken in, it should still be better than the besrs/u-trip performance. The 90s bats have performance similar to modern usssa composites, which START out hotter than usssa alloys, which I've already confirmed are comparable to modern usssa alloys
Hearing the sound off that Reflex, immediately teleported my mind back 25 years to an exact baseball field.
My first ever home run, first at bat of the season with a brand new z-core. Good ole days
I had that green Easton and the black magic Easton. Great bats
This was the coolest video you’ve ever done, man. That was jaw drop after jaw drop and so much intrigue and suspense. Well done 🔥
You guys should try the Mizuno bats of the '80s.
As a player from that era, I can tell you those bats had crazy thump and a huge sweetspot
By the way, the biggest gain of aluminum bats in comparison with wooden bats is not the maximum exit velo, but the help a batter got from the bigger sweetspots, resulting in substantial higher average exit velo
I used the c core in hs. Hit so many bombs. Pop ups were bombs. The redline was good too but the c405 was my favorite and my redline broke after 1 season. I definitely wouldnt have hit so well with today's bats.
I still have mine! I let my son hit with it for fun
I had both to. I still have my Redline and I think the CCore is at my dads… my Redline is much hotter from what I can tell. The sweet spot is bigger than the CCore.
I had the same Reflex in high school. Hit a ball 486 feet in 1998 as a senior in the high school homer derby at Coors field. There were guys who were using shaved versions of the bat and it basically made them deadly weapons.
Nothing will ever beat the sounds of those 90’s and 2000’s bats on a hot summer day at the ballpark👌
Well, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I graduated HS in '97, pitched in college, and have played adult amateur ball ever since. This is no surprise to me. The one I remember well was the late 90's Louisville Slugger Air Attack, which I would like to see go head to head with the C-Core. Everyone was using those two back then, and almost every hitter was hitting bombs. It was like the whole bat was the sweet spot. Being a pitcher then wasn't easy...
C-core 100%
Black majic Easton 35" 31 ounze we called the Tree explodes off the bat bro
Dude I won that in a raffle when it first came out. It was literally a cheat code. Best bat I ever used
The Air Attack 2 was an insanely hot bat! In the summers you could easily hit your furthest home runs with it. Just do not swing it in fall ball lol
As a pitcher i had someone bunt a fastball into the outfield with an Omaha Gold. I HATED these bats and scared as heck of comebackers. If you had an exaggerated follow through it was Russian Roulette if one came up the middle. High 80's fastballs rocketing off the bat 😮.
You can just hear the difference between the bats. Alloy is unique where the lower the pitch, the hotter the bat. With composites, it kinda works that way but not always and not precisely so.
I would LOVE to see you do the same comparison with senior league bats
The drop 8s from the 90s, early 2000s 1.15 bpf bats like drop 8.5 tpx response, and the modern classics from 10s and 20s like xl-1, green zen, cat 9/x composite and hype fire
I’ll never forget watching college baseball in the early 00s and lol each game seemed like a home run derby 😂
Didn’t they term that “gorilla” ball?
Oh man the TPX Omaha was a go to bat in my days. I also ran with a Black Easton Stealth. It had such a huge sweet spot
This is the only channel on YT where the production values increase by an order of magnitude with each episode. Dudes rocking ball trails now? How are they leveling up so quickly, lol?
I wore two to the face my senior season from the Easton C Core. Makes the nerve damage totally worth it to see it mash in 2023.
It takes real ability to hit balls so far with so many different bats. Hats off to you and the team, Will. A great video through and through.
Those 90's bats were nuts. Imagine players like Albert Pujols and Ryan Howard both using 34/29's with that kind of bounce off the bat.
Prime Pujols and griffrey would be insane
I used to swing both the CCore Reflex and the Z2K in HS. Never was a power hitter but with those bats were literal cheat codes!
Man, this was so fun to watch! Playing 3rd base was rough back in the day 😂...I just missed the 90's, I remember the 2000's Omaha and Stealth vividly. I also remember finding my Uncle's Easton from the 80's at my grandfather's house and playing with it. Man, the memories that just flooded back!
You aren’t kidding about third base, I can’t tell you how many times I just stuck my glove out where I thought the ball was going to go and hoping for the best because I sure wasn’t seeing the ball.
I really enjoyed using the 08 Demarini Voodoo. That was the bat that Bryce Harper was using at age 16 to hit 500 foot homers at Tropicana
For real, the Voodoo and Vexxum were so hot in the mid-2000s. Personally I always preferred the red/black Stealth BST2. The only three home runs I ever hit post-Little League were with a slightly dented BST2
@@tmtmtlsmlthose bats were hot forsure. Did you ever see/swing the white Nike aero fuse? Came out late 2007 early 2008. It was absolutely disgusting. I had one and everyone swung my bat over the bats they had.
@@PBAJJ866 By that time, I was a pitcher only. More focused on how to get more break out of my slider than bat technology
@@tmtmtlsmlI remember hating the 06 vexxums my senior year when the school bought them. Used them 2 days in practice, then went straight to sport mart and bought the red and grey stealth 😂 needless to say my mom wasn’t happy to be wasting that kind of money for 3 months left of baseball. Bless her heart!
They were for sure hot but had pretty bad feedback to the point you couldn't necessarily tell how well you caught it. At least for me as a teen at the time.
So basically what we learned is these bat companies said they were "BESR certified" but in reality they were just doing what they wanted to do the whole time. I want to see what Easton could come up with if they had absolutely no restrictions on bats.
If you go play EA Sports Triple Play 2001 and catch all of one in a Home Run Derby I'm pretty sure that's what bats would sound like now if exit speeds weren't limited.
What does BESR certified mean?
@justarandominternetdude2579 it stands for bat exit speed ratio, basically they measure the exit velocity of the ball and it had to be in a certain range of speed, thats how I understood it.
@@TheEmpire822Yup. Different from BBCOR which stands for Batted Ball Coefficient of Restitution, which is a fancy way of saying how much the bat is able to multiply force. The problem with BESR is that measuring exit speed instead of the multiplying force of the bat itself allowed for the BESR stats to be fudged. That's why BESR bats were the era of "breaking in" composite connection style bats. A brand new bat would pass the BESR regulation, but a "broken in" BESR bat would end up increasing its exit velocity by over 10 MPH in some cases. That's ultimately why the regulation system was changed, because manufacturers bad figured out how to get around the regulation and it started what was basically an arms race in bat technology. That's also why the Stealth bat he's using in this video doesn't win, because it was a brand new bat. If he were to find an older one that somebody has used and taken a lot of BP with first, I guarantee you that Stealth comp would've come in first in this video.
i miss my late 90s baseball days so much. i had such a blast.
Me too Buddy.
Nice! I played from the mid 80s to late 90s and used several of these bats. Lots of good memories showing up to practice being the first one to have a new model and everybody wanting to use it. My very first bat was actually a Tennessee Thumper but for a small kid.
I still have my Maroon TPX bat from 94-95. It had a crazy sweet spot like no other bat I tried at that time. My entire high school team used it. I still take BP with it today. This video took me back to the 90's for sure. Great video.
Man I had that Maroon one and our first game junior year the end cap blew off of it on about a 30 degree day here in the great lakes region. The warranty replacement was the white ceramic with red and blue logos and wasn't nearly as hot. At least I didn't think so.
@@jaydeshetler Wow, that sucks. Mine has a missing piece where the cap and the bat meet but it doesn't seem to affect the performance (at least I don't think so)
The 93-94 white tpx had the same crazy sweet spot. Liked it so much more than the reflex
Those Air Attacks were hotter than hell, but I have never seen a bat more commonly broken. Those were paper thin.
Grew up playing in the 90s. I still remember when a kid got that Easton when I was playing. Needless to say everyone on the team was using that thing. Then we got hit with the BESR reg bats when I got into high school.
I swung that green Easton starting in middle school, so around 1992. All my friends were getting the shiny expensive bats and I always went back to the Easton. It raked. Other big bats around then was the black Mizuno with the big ass knob on the end and nearly anything TPX. My younger brother had a blue/green one that he shattered.
I had the softball version of that Reflex bat in summer/fall of 1999. It was the only bat I ever owned that I could regularly hit home runs with.
I still got my TPX air attack from 1998. Mine is also cracked lol. The wood grain look in the metal was badass.
I think the Louisville TPX was a game changer. I used it in the late 90s when I played for the Kelowna Jays. CU31 Alloy, Black and Yellow -4 (33/29) BB6. I hit so many dingers with that bat its crazy. I still have it too. Before that I used an Easton Ultra Light (-5) BX1.
yeah, there were versions of the TPX that were insane.
I remember our high school team had all the TPX’s. The Response, the EXO Grid, the Omaha Orange, the Dynasty, C555. You name it, we got it lol. Throw back bro with that Omaha Gold!
Yeah… being a pitcher between the unregulated and besr age was kinda scary.
The Omaha scared the crap out of me. Then the tpx genx and the tpx c555 platinum were scary AF too.
c555 platinum and the genx for real!!!!! i used every bat he had in there until 2020s because I was in college as a pitcher only in 2004. But That old easton (or similar because I was in tee ball), the ccore, stealth, omaha, z2k (loved that fake wood grain hahaha). My buddy hit two grand slams in one INNING using the c-core. They checked it bc they thought he corked it. we were 13....so 1997 c-core extended I think
I’ll defend the black magic til the day I die. Hurt like absolute shit. But as a lead off hitter going for contact with murderers behind me, I just had to be on. And there’s a couple inches on this bat that let’s you throw the ball back exactly where you want it. Dog shit for big cuts though. We had a z2k for that haha I distinctly remember going damn near death when we moved inside to hit cages with the Omaha. Can’t stand that ping . Great trip down memory lane boys
Seeing that green Easton brings back so many memories. I can still remember the shockwaves through my arms if I didn't get all the barrel lol
Will got the dawg in him at 8:26 😅 Dude, the Z2K will forever be iconic. Wish you swung with that more. Also, I can confirm the Omaha Gold was an absolute sleeper GOAT. I hit one in Palm Springs during a Travel Tourney on a fenceless field. I was batting lefty more and was more contact hitter from the left side. I waited and just put a solid swing on the ball, didn't overdue it. Just went back to measure it since I have old ass grainy footage of it. Measured 415 feet on Google Earth 😮 That's freaking nuts bro. I remember that swing clearly and it was a great swing but not a power wing for sure. This bat was awesome haha. I'd like to see you do a showdown of just all old bats you can find or have. Seriously.
Honestly IMO the Worth Copperhead BC45A is one of the hottest bats of the early 2000s (not sure on the release date). I used a -7 version and the ball would fly, but once I tried the -3 version it was a whole new ballgame. Unless you were jammed, every pitch you would make contact on it felt like the ball was gonna fly 400 feet.
Yes they are a hot bat flatten one side a lil bit and it's on. The combatwas also amazing! The engineer for that bat is with Dirty South Bats now.
I do remember copperheads being hot as a kid. Never tried one but remember a few opponents having them.
My team was using Copperheads in '94 and '95, I do not remember alloy. They certainly weren't drops though.
I played Babe Ruth Ball with the VERY end of the unrestricted bats (I had a Reflex Easton in Blue) and the VERY beginning of BESR (Alot of Kids swung the the Yellow Omaha). Very little difference between those two bats in my opinion.
Flash forward to High School (Right Smack in Middle of BESR), the orange Stealth Easton was probably hands down the most popular bat, but it was pricy. I had an Easton Connection with a Sc888 alloy. Loved that bat.
I was playing when they made the switch to BESR. The biggest changes were drop 3 instead of drop 5 and they required the barrel of the bat to be smaller: 3 3/4 to 3 5/8.
I was never a fan of composite bats period. That orange stealth never did it for me. But I did like the more traditional sc900 Stealth. I had the Black one with the gold/yellow composite handle.
I remember getting The C Core for Christmas one year.. The following baseball season, I hit my first over the fence home run and six more.. I loved that bat so much..
The orange stealth! Man, that brings back a lot of memories that bat was one of my favorites. I also loved my red and white Voodoo through high school.
I used the redline c-core and the regular c-core. Both were super hot. I graduated in 99. So I played with the majority of the last unrestricted bats
Back in the 90’s, that Easton Reflex C-Core gave me one of the greatest experiences in my life….High School Playoffs… 400ft+ HR in the ASTRODOME!
400’ homeruns with those bats was effortless. Soft flex homie
I still have my 80’s Easton just like that one. It was an awesome bat, but had nothing on the early 90’s black silver and red tpx. I seen absolute bombs hit with that bat
I've still got mine too! I bought it used in the 90s on the cheap. Still had plenty of hits left in it. Probably still does today!
I wish I would have known this when I played High School ball. We had a million of those reflexes sitting around and no one used them because we thought they were "old" and not as good as the new bats out (2001-2005 timeframe)
I was in high school when the 90s bats were outlawed. They were juiced. That reflex was a beast.
1970s bats be fire lol
I'd love to see you guys test bat's made by cold steel. They aren't made to play baseball with, but it'd still be interesting.
I was born in 91 & nobody can convince me that 90-01 wasn't the greatest era of the human race. Everything was just different & special. TV, movies, music, sports. It was all insane & special.
Agreed. From 9/11 onward has been sh*ttier and sh*ttier
no the 80s where way better and the late 70s but 80s all day for everything
Lmao, that's just the time in your life when most stuff was new to you.
yea born in 89 and I kinda agree. Some of it though is just being an adult in general mostly sucks and our current economy makes it all so much worse. Im glad I got to see the Cubs win the world series but its definitely been all downhill from there😂
Golden age Started with the collapse of the berlin wall. Peaked at the collapse of the WTC. Ended with the financial crisis. 😊
Damn, I was hoping for the air attack 2 34 -5. That bat hit bombs. Outside pitches you could just flick it out with your wrists to the opposite field.
I wish they’d use the first or second air attack. Those bats were beasts back in the day with the balloon containing 30 psi of nitrogen. I’m not sure how or if it (the nitrogen) would even be effective after 20+ years, though.
The 70's and 80's bats were under-rated. Give them some more love with harder balls like we had back in the day!! Great video.
I used to see the Tennessee Thumper at Sportsmart when I was a kid.
The 1980’s Easton is my favorite. I remember some of my high school teammates in the 90’s using that bat. However, that 1990’s Easton Reflex is a BEAST!
I had the Reflex Extended in HS and it was amazing!! In college I used an Omaha 2000 and the Omaha Gold. The Omaha 2000 had the most pop out of them all and the sweet spot was twice the size of the Gold. The Omaha 2000 was when they went from -5 to -3 and it looked like an oversized softball bat. 😂😂
I had a hunter green Omaha 2000 and it was my favorite bat once I got to HS. Before that the Reflex/Redline were the best. I was loving the Reflex when all my buddies were using the TPX White Lightning (whatvwe called it anyway it was just a white with black writing TPX)The Omahas were so fire.
Thanks Will. I’m always bragging to my son and his team (he coaches) about how good I was in the 90’s.
After they watch this video, the gig is up for me 😢. Because hell yeah the bats were juiced back then.
Guess I will go back to telling them the story of how I scored 4 touchdowns in the championship game against Andrew Johnson High 🤣
🤘😎 BBB’s
How dare you steal Al’s accomplishments.
The white TPX bat with the black writing was the best bat in the 90’s.
Still have my ccore and used it in high school 97-99 had no idea how much people loved em till I was playing at my sons home run derby.
Awesome vid. The sound of that reflex takes me back to my childhood watching the men's league when they used those -5's and 2 3'4" barrel and just destroyed baseballs. Then one year the league went all wood-bat and some guys who were pounding homeruns never hit another homerun again.
bro this man swing is pretty asf lmao
FUN FACT: my father worked for Jim Easton as his care giver
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My son & live in Bend, OR. He is a huge Elks fan, he was so excited to see you filming here.
The Easton Z2K brings back a lot of nostalgia, great bat great memories!!