Caroline Myss - The Hedonist (The Power of Archetypes)
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- Hi, Everybody -
It's time for this week's archetype, and I'm doing the hedonist. This is a fascinating archetype because it gets such bad press. People think of the hedonist as someone who only seeks pleasure and will do anything to indulge in a good time and avoid any responsibility. But the hedonist gets a lot of bad press, and I wanted to discuss that.
As I was doing the hedonist, I realized that the last thing people associate the divine with is pleasure, answering prayers for assistance to show you the beautiful side of life, the lightness of creation.
The hedonist represents the love of the good life and what we are willing to do to get to the good life. If you look historically, though, it's that part of life that causes people to lose control. Too much of the hedonist causes people to lose contact with their senses. And so that part had to be regulated.
I hope you think about this because Western society, especially its puritanical roots, struggles with balancing pleasure with everyday life. I encourage you to indulge your hedonist; that's where I'm going with this. Indulge the things that you enjoy in your life. It should be as ordinary as everything else.
Okay, that's my words of wisdom. Thank you, guys, bye.
Love,
Caroline
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I start my day drinking a cup of coffee quiet looking out my back window , I don’t take it for granted , the trees , the green grass , birds , the sky . And just meditate . My dogs give me pleasure every day . Thank you !
My dogs have always been a major pleasure for me. They're so loving and honest.
“This isn’t a Christian universe” this quote just healed so much in me, thank you 💜
I grew up Catholic and was bathed in guilt about everything. Well, I grew out of that in my 50s. I do what I enjoy and can still be responsible when needed. Saw immense suffering in my profession and it taught me to stop and really smell the roses. Last few years, I worked part time and took 6-8 months off. Good thing I saved for a rainy day, 😂 lol ,🌄💕💃
I grew up watching my parents stressed over their lives and I have always thought there's got to be more to life than stress! Now I am 50 and I have learned to enjoy the simple fact of life - living and being creative. Watching the flowers grow, eating, my partner, my cat, and just being in the moment - I find pleasure in most things I do or have. Thanks again for putting it all down to words. 🌹🙏❣️
🙏thank you I wasn’t given options to enjoy myself until I became disabled and now all I do has to bring me love laughter and stillness 💝🧚♂️🌈☮️🌎yes I pray for it and send gratitude for life
Wow. Not even 20 minutes ago did I tell my daughter that I need to take a vacation and actually go somewhere and do something fun, not something "productive." I've never taken time off of work to do something fun, only to get things done. I'm currently on "vacation" but that's because I got my floors redone and had to be home to do it. This is my sign to plan something fun ASAP. Thanks once again for always being right on time with your messages.
Isn’t it true that spirit is here to enjoy? Much needed talk here Caroline… so much truth here today ❤ Thank you for the beautiful reminder today 🙏
“This isn’t a Christian universe, thank God” so true 🤣🤣😅, thank you for these videos very insightful 🙏🌍❤️
I sooooo look forward to these weekly acts of service from the Incredible Caroline💜 Thank You!!
This is the current archetype at play today. We as a society have bought this hook line & sinker.
And it is all collapsing in front of our eyes so we can co create a new reality of inclusiveness and love💜🙏🥰
THANK YOU Caroline! I grew up as a Dutch Calvanist. We had strong beliefs about work. Pleasure was frowned upon. This is what I am still dealing with. When I have had pleasure in the past, it was usually succumbed to the Hedonist Archetype. The 12 Steps of AA really helped me to get some balance. A prayer for balance, love and pleasure is just what I need to do in my life.
Love your words of wisdom on the Hedonist! Yes pleasure needs to be ordinary part of our life.
Love this archetypal discussion! It’s almost like the hedonist helps us progress forward. Even in the pits of overindulgence we really find contrast and golden nuggets of enlightenment here.
In the Vedic traditions equal rest/ pleasure/ work.
Work life balance is equal parts quiet/ reflection, awe / reverence, and only 1/3 of action / progression.
That life seems truly rich. 👆🏽
Being a double Leo with a 12th house stellium, I've always did what I wanted to do that was fun/felt good. I've also worked too hard for 40 years till I had to retire due to medical issues that I'm taking care of in my retirement. It was interesting to hear Caroline talk about the influence of puritan past. I keep telling younger people now to NOT work full time all their lives- not to wait till they're retired to enjoy life- they may not have the health!
“Deserve” and “Blame” - these horrendous words 🙌🙌 oh boy this discussion hits a raw nerve. I learned very slowly to pray for pleasure through the experience of recovering my creative spirit in Julia Cameron’s The Artist Way 12 Step course back in 1993. It is a lifetime commitment to seek beauty and rest and peace and let go of urgency and unworthiness in the face of maybe not working hard enough or working as hard as the next person. Thank you so much Caroline for your wise insights. I am ablaze with sparks flying. 😂
It’s great Caroline thanks for your contribution to humanity you are a saint
i lived in America for 4 years. i was always surprised by the puritanicalism.
Here in Scandinavia this looks a bit different culturaly, I think. At the moment I'm watching our relationship with the summer holidays, We're all behaving hedonistic and no excuses needed. Thank you for these videos, looking forward every one!
As an outsider I find this a fascinating aspect of the American consciousness.
You are the Nature of the Divine, people just look at this woman's work - beyond precious. Thank you Caroline, you continue to shed light on the most integral aspects of life, nature, humanity, spirituality etc, you are the embodiment of enlightenment and we need your light. Thank you. X
Thanks for helping us with work life balance. I've enjoyed the whole archetype series.❤
This series is so great- I am thrilled you have been doing these! Thank you so much! ❤
What a thought-provoking video, Caroline!
Made my day 😊 ❤
I love your bangs longer and the round glasses. Smashing! Great video too, as always. Thank you.
Wonderful!
Thank you!!! I requested this topic, and feel so happy to have my wish granted! Lately, I've been thinking about THE SENSUALIST too- that that may name me better than the hedonist, and your take on balancing work and puritanical legacies was spot on helpful. I keep both in balance, but because of our society, I perhaps incorrectly think of myself as a hedonist. To be honest though, I have very much prayed for life's pleasures before. ❤❤❤
What a breath of fresh air that was! I see myself as more of a spiritually minded person, but I notice that my ability to enjoy and have fun in the present moment is what sparks the hearts of other people far more than anything else I thought I embodied. Next to that, the more consciously I enjoy life, the less I find myself wanting to vent stress in excessive pleasure-seeking (or rather: numbing) experiences.
Sometimes life feels like a prison, you might be conscious of other dimensions but you will find yourself bound to the cycles of this world every new day you wake up. I feel it's good to remember this is only a temporary experience and that we better make it as much fun as possible. The harvest: no regrets and a backpack full of intense experiences to be grateful for and look back upon once our time has come to go. In other words: a 🫀 light as a 🪶 when the scale comes out.
Thank you for this friendly reminder and surprising confirmation, love it! 💝
Thanks for the reminder 💜
The Hedonist archetype resides in my second house - this character is near and dear to me. One of my greatest insights was discovering that my Life Path # is 5 - Freedom/Discipline. It coincides so beautifully with the Hedonist. Thank you Caroline, for your take on this, especially in American culture.
I love that you said this is not a "Christian universe"
☯️ the sacred balance
It's now a imperative to make to some time for self care. Up the hedonism!
Another nugget of gold😊 Thank you, Caroline ❤
Once again, so enlightening!
So very true! Not to be ignored. Balance in all things. Ty Caroline 🕊️💕
Thank you so much Caroline, this was excellent
Such an important message, thank you
Really thought provoking for sure. I think we have to justify “pleasure” for a variety of reasons including the fear that we will become too excessive if we often do whatever we wish. While at the same time our society values “work” on such a level that we seldom are concerned we will overdue it. I also believe there is a BIG difference between JOY and pleasure. God is all about both in HIM and HIS love includes ALL GOOD and PERFECT things as HE sees fit. Thank you ❤
My I Ching reading told me I could die completing my tasks.
I slowed down.
Not ready to go.
Not doing my “ civic duty” engaging with insincere officials at my Town Hall tonight.
thank you, Caroline! I love your candor, your "inner cosmology" idea, and your sincerity... I always smile and chuckle a bit with your personal stories, since they are the fabric of your experience and let us know the real, everyday you!
I love walking too! It is enjoyable and brings so much balance! Thank you so much Caroline for your words of wisdom, precious as always!
Love this, thank you for sharing your wisdom 🙏🏻❤️
When effort and grace flow together in an uninterrupted current of experience the ultimate balance is achieved! We are designed to find this equilibrium. Devotion to the Divine in a posture of humility opens the floodgates of joy where all there is is abundance.
What an important message. Thank you for this Caroline Myss🙌🙏✨💫👌
Beautiful words, Caroline, thank you so much.
Thank you! Such needed explanation… the secret is in maintaining the balance within ourselves… ❤
It's about balance, work and play. 💐
I loved this. I'm a hedonist at heart and had it beaten out of me by religion, and by selfish parents and husband. Now I don't have to feel guilty about doing little things daily, or big things when I can, to revive it.
Love your work Caroline. Thank you for sharing your wisdom. ❤
Thank you for this! Christian friends seem determined to lay guilt on me, as a single woman, for my sex life. I'm not, according to them, allowed to have one. I really appreciate your insight.
Lovely, laughing, and deep... Balance and integration... What if we could adopt more of an Indigenous perspective that life is a gift, not a struggle of hard work to achieve our just desserts!! Perhaps then we would stop hating ourselves, dominating each other, and extracting resources from earth to fix the next 10 problems that we create with every expensive fix we hastily ram through. Thank you Caroline! this was really good insight.
It is important to understand that we have values that are inherited and values that we adopted in life which influences our actions and choices. Looking back, we can see where we came from. Where our parents came from. The era. It was the industrial age. The era of “more is better”. The era of religion (reward and punishment concept). Understanding this past will help us see why many are depriving themselves of the pleasures of life. Life is not easy by any means. There are many ups and downs to overcome. But there are these short moments of triumph that we all must recognize. You have climbed hard. You reach a milestone that you once set for yourself. I’ll stop when I reach the lamppost or I will take a break when I am on top of the hill. Sometimes we do stop and keep the promise to ourselves. Most time, we just push forward. What is critical to understand is that time is a bonus and death is inevitable. Yes, we can push and continue pushing for more thinking we have time and death won’t happen to us, yet. But that is only 50% true. Accept the other 50% that it may well be the case. If you’re dying after that hill…that’s the end of it. So slow down. Smell the roses. Take the holiday. Do the things that only matters to you because this life…it’s yours to live. The rest can wait. Your life can’t wait. If you are blessed with more time and more life after that, then offer it to offers for the good of the whole. Work for your legacy (something you are not here to benefit). But if you have worked hard in life and you know yourself better…what’s stopping you from slowing down, stopping for some well deserved time and life for yourself? Hedonist or not I don’t care. If there is no me, there is nothing to accomplish or do for others in any case✌️
Thank you Caroline. I needed to hear this. A friendship of mine just ended. I couln´t tell why a friend who´s always having fun in all aspects of his life at all times-no matter what, never taking responsability at the consequences, and ends up throwing his anger at his closest friends, when he falls behind at work,when he betrays people´s trust at work when he procrastinates and does not deliver. It´s obvious he eventually feels bad about himself and becomes defensive and aggressive to his closest friends and peers. It´s tiring because he used to be a close friend but the story repeats itself over and over again. I guess he matches this Archetype.
This was very very interesting. I always found that Americans have a guilt from having pleasure . Europeans aren’t like that. I went to Lebanon in 1992 , one year after the civil war, and everybody was enjoying themselves, drinking and eating good food and singing while surrounded by their family and friends like there is no tomorrow. I also find it weird that generally speaking , they rarely show pleasure , or sensual scenes in American movies without following by violence. As if violence justifies the sexual scenes. It’s very strange. Caroline , believe it or not but while working in Santa Monica, California , I always took my fifteen minutes breaks twice a day while some of my coworkers use to skip it alot of times . I knew it was my right and I enjoy it. When I moved to Boston, in was even worst. There was such a guilt of taking their fifteen minutes breaks ,it was unbelievable. Yes, this puritan mentality is definitely part of this culture. Thank you Caroline for another fascinating architype.
Fear is behind allot l did. Excess stuff, over eating, hoarding....when l got that ..allot changed in me. Excessive spending to fill up. It was all about filling up from externals. At 63 l got rid of 75 per cent of stuff. No longer excess shop. Buy only what l need. I would rather be free for my simple joys. I was so empty and crowded. Decluttered allot of people also. Drainers of my energy force. Exhausting. Now l plan to take a couple months out at a Monastery each year....cheap to stay and my Spirt time. Eating excessively still working on. Pleasure is to have freedom for me and a simple home. May l wake up. Amen
Exquisite explanation of this archetype
When I was on payroll I accrued a lot of "sick" pay because I was healthy and didn't miss work. I attribute that to balance. To enjoy some paid "wellness/fun" days off, I would never call it that, so I'd just email that I was under the weather. They didn't know my definition is under a beautiful sky, trees, a movie theater, going on a silent retreat...
Thank you yes this helped a lot! I look forward to these videos so much! Dont know what i would do without them now tbh 😅 thank you Carolyn 🙏🏽
People feel so guilty to go and enjoy themselves or just take time out they do feel like the have to earn it and grandparents r now still child minding wen there mentally and physically not able parents haveing grown children liveing at home etc telling people you want time out is so hard
Thank you so much !
Thank you. This is very important message. I literally would not put my feet up for fear of being seen as unproductive/lazy! Holy bells😂
Thank you! ✨️
True Pleasure is not dependent on the external physical realm...it is a perspective from within..the pleasure of waking up and breathing and Being❤
It requires inner and outer realms because we are spirit and physical matter.
😇GVB. The Bible says "The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. " Happiness is rooted in in the "Little Things 🎉
This one I find so fascinating to explore . please do the Wild Women archetype?
Very much enjoying all the Archetypes….totally agree with the Hedonistic dilemma, struggle for Americans.; I also feel we are taught, very young, in school, sometimes subliminally , others outright spoken~ the WORK first and then the reward.
IE~ I was telling a friend the other day, that very hard for me to watch a movie I’m the afternoon. I am
aware of learning this from my Great Grandmother, And Grandoarebts; ironically not so much my Mother.
Well, thank
You Carolyn..✨✨✨
You?23:56 , said, “just seems too Hedonistic,”
At 63, still looking for the balance.
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Mu believe
Thank you
Do as thou wilt...The Hills have Eyes... The Weekend.. hedonistic song
Pleasure requires no suffering first!❤ 15:49
So good thank you 💞
The video should be about hedonists but she ended talking more about the opposing characteristics of austerity people and their problems. The main issues with hedonism are 1. the lack of future thinking, like for example, they don't save money, which leads to no security when they get old. They believe they will be young forever. Which leads to 2. Hedonist culture stopped its growing in the adolescence, by avoiding problems and hard situations - i.e suffering - they don't grow and stay trapped in a eternal stage of adolescence. Their idea of freedom is incomplete and naive (like when you are a teenager) as they don't balance it with responsibility. They misuse the enlightened teaching of "there is only now" to justify their choices of avoiding suffering by pursuing pleasure, but life goes on and everyone gets old, at least physically, and hedonists end up suffering anyway for their lack of responsibility and disregard for the future.
Austere people, usually had to grow up too fast - due to difficult situations and/or locations of living - and so they missed the chance of a natural exposition to pleasure to balance the hardship of always have to be thinking about the future - surviving. So their infancy or teenage years were not fully pleasured experienced - without guilt - or even lived at all, as they jumped into adulthood very soon.
The story of the the ant and the grasshopper.
Thank you for your words of wisdom, and I will hed(onism) them.
My Guru Maharaji advised us to meditate
“ Until you are HAPPY”
😇GVB.❤
Dear Caroline, please can you do one about the hunter/predator archetype? Thankyou
❤thank you 😊
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Obviuos its resonate really so much to me because I have been there in all that you mentioned and yesterday and days before I am recognize that the NOW moments kicks in my own wishes what I am needed or would like👍🥰❤️✨🙏🌼🌸🍀🦋
So much best regards to all of you from Sweden and we are doing this together so beautiful video Caroline Thank you so very very much 🇸🇪🌍🙏🥰❤️✨🙏✨❤️🙏
Big grateful hug and greetings from Mexico City. Have you ever read Santa Teresa in Spanish?
I guess the Catholics came up with Mardi Gras to allow people to be hedonistic but then pay for it. If not Catholic, one can just indulge then move on to the next week of celebration (St Joseph, St Patrick, etc). Very interesting. Thanks for all this.
G-d is UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.😊
I see the hedonist (better known as the sensualist) as very much at its core essence, a childlike lust for life ✨It is a child’s view of the world but as an adult. We want to play, sing, dance, express, create, connect, love. Unlike most people I see the hedonist as innocent. Those who are young at heart and have a great capacity for enjoyment of this earthly existence. Do we shame children for enjoying a swing set? Do we shame a child for playing in a creek? Do we shame children for laughing? Making a mess with pancakes? Loving on a pet? No 😊 Their enjoyment and pleasure is our own. Hedonist are here to show stuffy people how to truly live! How to receive life and how to give back to life. We are the nectar, the honey, the children of the sun ☀️ ❤
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🤔 If there is a hedonist archetype, should there also be an eudaimonist archetype?
The Hedonist seems somewhat linked to the archetype of the Martyr...... 🤔
Caroilne Myss actually knows what she is talking about when she talks about archetypes. Unlike, say, oh, the Hedonist grifter narcissist Miz Markle.
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so you're saying ice cream for breakfast :)
Guilty 😕
But not of being outrageously wealthy😝
BLM.
Thank you