Best COH2 Support Equipment Units Ranked

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ความคิดเห็น • 101

  • @PvPene
    @PvPene 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Raketenwerfer's ability to retreat like an infantry unit is great too.

  • @samuelrawlings2393
    @samuelrawlings2393 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    MG42 is S tier.... unreal suppression, cheap, ap rounds allows you to tear up light vechs and really damage allied tanks... Americans especially

    • @TovKafur
      @TovKafur 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah, i really was like "wtf" when saw MG42 at B. Pretty much mandatory in opener, good supression, AP, wide arc. The only real cons are bad damage (the worst of all mgs) and small squad.

  • @kevinlambo3211
    @kevinlambo3211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    20 seconds in and they're already cutting each other off

  • @jirkavobr5579
    @jirkavobr5579 5 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    I am crying for u putting MG42 next to Maxim 😢 Just tell me when u find free MG42 on the field and next to it is Maxim and free mg will come handy. Which one will u pick? Dont tell me that u pick Maxim 😂😂

    • @mihaelvulchev7003
      @mihaelvulchev7003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You know Maxim is The best Offesinve support MG because of the 6 modules and super low time to set up .

    • @justmonika2345
      @justmonika2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@mihaelvulchev7003 Axis don't really benefit from the extra members so it's definitely the worst MG for them.

    • @poper3232
      @poper3232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justmonika2345 what lol the aura of it is from berlin to moscow supresses instanlty aswell for the maxis to supress you need to shoot 3 bursts just for the inf to consider getting suprresed

    • @justmonika2345
      @justmonika2345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@poper3232 You misunderstand me. I'm talking about how the Maxim's only benefits don't work for the Axis so it's easily the worst MG in the game for them. (They can't 6 man a stolen Maxim)

    • @poper3232
      @poper3232 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@justmonika2345 Ye if so you got a point there

  • @aaronmaton
    @aaronmaton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I love my Maxim MG, I know that it doesn't do very well supressing enemies, but once is veted, is a great add to an attacking force. Also I think that is faster to deploy its gun than others MG.

    • @celtoucan4956
      @celtoucan4956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the .50 has the fastest set up, and the Maxim in my tests has very similar set up to most other MGs, but a faster pack up. Maxim's continuous fire ability is insanely good too, double burst length, half the cooldown, +25% suppression, and 50% faster reload

    • @WuW0w0-m8m
      @WuW0w0-m8m ปีที่แล้ว

      @@celtoucan4956 it has fast pack up but it has to run a circle

  • @shadowhunter9117
    @shadowhunter9117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hello and a question from Germany.
    Can you make a ranking video for the commsnders ?

    • @georgesd2167
      @georgesd2167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please do this, this would be amazing! Perhaps explaining which ones are better 1v1 or 3v3 etc,

  • @night_panzerfeuer3095
    @night_panzerfeuer3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If we can put the 17-Pounder emplacement in the tier list. I say S-Tier. One is the flare ability and two i believe has a higher powered shell. Third its tougher to destroy with that increase defense commander. The only downfall is the rotation of the AT gun
    (If not, please comment)

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Night_Panzer definitely. Its really good. If you have some tanks ready to dive you can kill KTs that run into it.

    • @dasnachtgespenst
      @dasnachtgespenst 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know. For me it always felt like it is the least useful british emplacement. Of course it can deal tons of damage but I see several problems:
      1. 14 population slots on a completely stationary units hurt a lot. However, this isn't as terrible as it once was because now we can remove the 17-pounder when we finally don't need it anymore.
      2. It can't permanently shoot through buildings unlike the German Pak 43. So you really need a good map for it.
      3. It is available very late in the game, too late in my opinion. I'd rather go for tanks at this point, Fireflies for example.

    • @XMysticHerox
      @XMysticHerox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dasnachtgespenst You´d want both Fireflies and the emplacement. Especially when the enemy first encounters it you can reliably kill even the heaviest tanks with a quick dive. And without it it´s very hard to hold on to your sim city.

  • @piwawsky
    @piwawsky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    if I'd drink a shot every time he said "this sucker"...I'd be drunk very fast ;) good job with your videos otherwise guys, you just got a new follower!

  • @maxshultz6502
    @maxshultz6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The German laser mortar that is more accurate in FOW then all the other mortars in LOS needs to be higher tier.

  • @SmokeDrake
    @SmokeDrake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The DShK also has a very narrow field of fire, less then half of others, you never covered the MG's coverage.

    • @garlkurzer
      @garlkurzer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it sucks

  • @OneThiccSamurai-vn5se
    @OneThiccSamurai-vn5se 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hold on. I just saw this. Theres 2 greyshots???

  • @flix1717
    @flix1717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Wtf lol, definitely was entertained by this video, but starting of a support weapon ranking with light vehicles seems kinda weird

  • @dmytrotkachov6859
    @dmytrotkachov6859 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    45mm was hugely nerfed recently. It has increased cost now and range of the canister shot was cut like 33% or so (infantry now can outrange it). It is extremely niche now cause it can be used only to counter early armor and that's all. "F" tier for the toothpicker

  • @holyhandgrenade456
    @holyhandgrenade456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    9:25
    brotherly love bb

  • @omarabdelaty634
    @omarabdelaty634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    no way in hell MG42 is like maxim

  • @lastpraetorian3647
    @lastpraetorian3647 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a simple rifleman - I see a tier list video, I give a like

  • @zidan1hao917
    @zidan1hao917 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    M2HB weighs around 38kg alone, and the bipod is 21kg, with another box of 50rd 50cal, lol

  • @rasplez9889
    @rasplez9889 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grenadier half-track is a very good early pusher like stormtroopers and assault grenadiers, and the half-track can hunker down to secure territory when you reach the standoff phase. Good at preventing bridge crossings and infantry blobs. Pretty sure it's MG can suppress too, so it's an armoured MG42. You can complain about the .50 cal range but put a pathfinder on one of them and their sight range is actually further than the gun itself, meaning you don't need forward spotters when it can spot on its own. Same for AT guns and any crew weapon actually. Pathfinders are incredibly underrated when people compare them on their own.

  • @gangstalker_random1919
    @gangstalker_random1919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about the mobility of the maximum?

  • @jetplanek
    @jetplanek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “And it has smoke” other guy proceeds to say “BUT it has smoke”

  • @edih7132
    @edih7132 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all the information.

  • @KeyhaneBishomar
    @KeyhaneBishomar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys, I dont know if you still check the comments or not, but I think the German halftrack is good I would say A tier, it can turn into a MG after you empty its panzergrenadiers off the vehicle.

  • @bige2576
    @bige2576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Put the mg42 on B tier. Huge facepalm.

  • @fmerritt2001
    @fmerritt2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t like this vid, but when you said you were trying to do tier lists we didn’t like, I clicked “like”

  • @dasnachtgespenst
    @dasnachtgespenst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where would you put Bofors and the mortar pits if you had to place them on the list?
    I actually like them a lot though you need to position them well.

  • @f0nt
    @f0nt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol british MG above MG42, thats just bullshit

  • @mr.pilchard4548
    @mr.pilchard4548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you really need to remake this video

  • @bryanle5997
    @bryanle5997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve hunted down an Ostwind with my American AA lol

  • @theholyroman6283
    @theholyroman6283 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    american mortar can not hit anything, but when it hits...

  • @_Woody_
    @_Woody_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have I slept over the 17 Pounder ?

  • @archtower8564
    @archtower8564 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with the russian zis gun especially if you spam lets say 4-6 of them they will pen KT front plate no prob for some reason lmao.

  • @gatekeeper_
    @gatekeeper_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the another soviet mg is the heyvy mg they have

  • @night_panzerfeuer3095
    @night_panzerfeuer3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about the 17-Pounder for the Brits?

    • @aaronmaton
      @aaronmaton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      IMO is more like a building. The problem is that a building rank will be pretty empty.

    • @night_panzerfeuer3095
      @night_panzerfeuer3095 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting

  • @WesternBarbary
    @WesternBarbary 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never had any luck with the M8A1. Shots never hit, and when they do the damage is negligible. I'd honestly rather get the Mortar Halftrack because at least with that bugger I get WP and delayed fuse HE.
    But, what do I know.

  • @ulisesramirez8923
    @ulisesramirez8923 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Generals tier pls

  • @lowesmanager8193
    @lowesmanager8193 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Raketenwerfer is B tier at best, none of it's gimmicky abilities make up for it's general lack of reliability as an AT gun, the lack of range combined with the super vulnerable crew make it's veterency largely irrelevant

    • @gfoog3911
      @gfoog3911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It retreats (so it's hard to chase down)
      It goes into buildings
      5 man crew > 4 man crew
      Cheap
      And it's hella reliable
      I always grab them over other AT guns on the field

    • @lowesmanager8193
      @lowesmanager8193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gfoog3911 Dude, do you not see how old this comment of mine is? The Raketenwerfer was buffed more than once between then and now

    • @gfoog3911
      @gfoog3911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oh, to be honest I did not see how old it was

  • @shrek4949
    @shrek4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot the Zis-6 transport =[

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the OKW Opel Blitz

  • @chefkch6206
    @chefkch6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seriously the Vickers Mg is better as the Mg42 hahaha :,D.

    • @ebrarertek7724
      @ebrarertek7724 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah vickers just kills soo fast

    • @gfoog3911
      @gfoog3911 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MG dps is important, but MG42 suppression makes it the best
      Any low veterancy unit, will be suppressed the second the MG42 sneezes at their general direction

  • @infiknight8428
    @infiknight8428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I disagree on the Scott placement

    • @izayo4447
      @izayo4447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and it take 3 AT shot (160x3)

  • @Raven5431
    @Raven5431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sad thing is I've spotted an IR halftrack and used pershing hvap round to shoot through forest to hit it..... it survives easily. Total waste of 90 munitions

    • @izayo4447
      @izayo4447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      need 2 AT shot to kill this thing (160x2=360)
      pershing skill shot does 200 or 240 I'm not sure

    • @Raven5431
      @Raven5431 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@izayo4447 either way not worth 90 munitions

  • @izayo4447
    @izayo4447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    *Vicker on top*
    me : what?!
    ".50 A tier because the AP shells"
    me : Have you seen the HMG42 or HMG34 IAP??
    *HMG42 under the .50*
    me : are we played the same game?

    • @shrek4949
      @shrek4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also thought they were playing a diffrent game when they put mg 42 in b tier. The thing that makes it much better than the .50 cal is the bigger arc and you can get them instantly. I mostly play 1v1 and 2v2 and I almost never get an american 50. cal, just because there are more important things at that stage of the game, where you can get them.

    • @izayo4447
      @izayo4447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shrek4949 yeah they're similar
      but the 42 is better in almost everything.
      ROF ✓
      Suppression ✓ (not sure but with High ROF the 42 win)
      Survivability ✓ (no death loop)
      IAP ✓
      Arc ✓
      Come in tier 0 ✓
      Cheaper ✓

    • @shrek4949
      @shrek4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@izayo4447 my point was that the mg42 is better than the 50 Cal do I don't understand why you replied explaining the same thing

    • @goy0551
      @goy0551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@shrek4949 cuz even if you dont click ap rounds of 50 cal it can still damge light armored vehicles even panzer 4s

    • @shrek4949
      @shrek4949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Edge of Night lol replying to a 8 month old comment

  • @SuperCrazf
    @SuperCrazf 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, a list where I agree with everything

  • @markopolo7256
    @markopolo7256 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys forgot to rank cavalry riflemen.

  • @bencarmine3032
    @bencarmine3032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Guys you had me worried. Maxim as b tier and next to the mg42.
    Maxim is d tier imo because of low supprsion, smaller arc, and above all the deathloop wich negates the hp advantidge.

    • @dusk6159
      @dusk6159 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wtf Maxim deserves no less than C

    • @bencarmine3032
      @bencarmine3032 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dusk6159 it is more likely to eat nades frontaly from a single squad then most mg,s because it sucks at suppressing. Wich is supposed to be its job.
      This also contributes to the deathloop happening faster and more often. Completly wasting the hp advantidge imo.
      I play 1v1 and 2v2 mostly for the record. Maybe its better in 3s and 4s but i cant comment on that.

  • @markattahan6919
    @markattahan6919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LOL, you two really should delete the game and go get some milk.

  • @jeph115
    @jeph115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    IRHT nowadays is complete garbage, bordering on F tier just because it can call stuff in.
    On another note adding vet to IRHT is easy, just make it like major vet where it gets it from other units.

  • @_Woody_
    @_Woody_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just can't. The Vickers is easily without a doubt the worst MG. It fails at the main MG role, suppressing Infantry. How many times have I seen Infantry just casually walking through the cone and getting behind it. And once the 42 is vetted, it has more AP Damage then the Vickers. So it looses on all fronts. The Range buff is only in Buildings, which makes you immobile and predictable. Easly the worst, no questions asked.

    • @hansvonadel8787
      @hansvonadel8787 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      With the accuracy bulletins it kills infantry but I rather choose a maxim or a mg42.

  • @tbhc415
    @tbhc415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the fact they keep saying 'sucker' is rlly annoying

  • @c.j.1089
    @c.j.1089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dish-ka, not Douche-ka, lol.

  • @iyadli4645
    @iyadli4645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man the maxim is the worst

  • @MrCaskwine
    @MrCaskwine 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would actually put the maxim higher than the mg42, maxim's reset time is ridiculous, mg42 is mildy useless as soon as a sniper gets on the field

    • @hansvonadel8787
      @hansvonadel8787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I rather take a mg42 than a maxim. Mg42 has a wide range and anti light armor ability. Sniper are just rare in 4vs4 games. Mostly they go with mortar.

    • @noeness3779
      @noeness3779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hansvonadel8787 well, you are wrong my friend. For the British, unless they want to go for sim city they are doomed to use sniper to clear mg.

  • @juliosunga3530
    @juliosunga3530 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the brits mg kills too fast

  • @mastershake9551
    @mastershake9551 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Mg 42 is a pile of shit in this game

  • @TigerBaron
    @TigerBaron 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hammer and sickle in the background makes me disapprove.

  • @wardog3248
    @wardog3248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    These jokers crack me up, always walking a thin line, trying not to pump up their favorite faction(germans) too much as they are afraid they might get nerfed. I've never seen anyone pick up a damn Vickers on the battlefield. That MG34 however.... is a completely different story. They almost put that MG34 at "C" rank. Good save though. If its 4 players who play together and are talking, against 4 random players, those MG 34s can win the game before it even starts. LOL, "B" rank. That's "S" teir for sure. But hey, it was their best vid yet on rankings being close to correct.

    • @daboyz6106
      @daboyz6106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true.

    • @mihaelvulchev7003
      @mihaelvulchev7003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      better get you facts buddy :D

    • @arandommobilebc2046
      @arandommobilebc2046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you’ve never seen anyone pick up a vickers you play with trash cans. Mg34 is worse than every mg other than maximum imo. American and British mg shred infantry. I always have a hard time against mg42. But mg34 and maximum? They don’t shred infantry and not great at suppressing.

  • @triccone6697
    @triccone6697 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ace winter, naked with a plastic bag on the head, summer full sweater I don't understand and I bet I will never understand

  • @Sadend
    @Sadend 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one uses the DShK though.

    • @mannysikario
      @mannysikario 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've seen enough players using it as it can surpress Germans quick enough

    • @pineapplelapolynesia1994
      @pineapplelapolynesia1994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      if you went for SRC instead of support kampanya and you had a commander with DShK i would understand that

    • @shrek4949
      @shrek4949 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it is commander locked (lend lease commander, which is garbage)