I was charged $200 for this. Most people thought that I was getting a pretty good deal. Having four or five men work plus the soil plus everything else for 200 seem like a good deal to me too.
Honestly grass is really dumb. Lawns realistically should be used as large garden areas. Society doesn't accept it though. Lawns are not beneficial for our environment or wallet though tbh.
I think its better not to rake the seed into the soil. It just moves the seed and then you have bare spots where the rake moved seed too much from one area to another. This happened to me this spring. Its better just to put the seed down, cover it with about 1/4" to 1/2" of soil, roll it, and water it. You will have much better results with a much more even germination of the seeds across your lawn.
I always heard that in eighth of an inch of soil was enough to cover the seats but maybe a quarter each would be a lot better. Your idea of seeding in the fall is a good one. That gives me all summer to think about it. Thanks for the great advice.
ONLY seed in the fall, EVER! your wasting your time and money otherwise and will end up spending more money on all the weeds that come with your partial grass ! just think,what happens to us when we wear a coat in heat?? we sweat, moisture means weeds. fall gives the seed time to mature without excess heat and once spring arrives and it comes in its free of weeds.
Man, it pained me to watch that video! They essentially destroyed your lawn... The proper process would be to mow short, dethatch to expose soil layer, clean the debris, core aerate the soil profile, spread half the seed, on top of cores, drag/aggressively rake to break up cores and incorporate seed to holes, apply a light layer (1/4") of quality compost, apply remaining seed, rake again, then roll the lawn. Water twice a day until seed germinates, then fertilize 2 weeks later and apply a broadleaf herbicide. That's the right way to do it
What does "dread it in" mean, exactly? Also, you NEVER want to "spike" aerate your lawn! have you ever tried to screw a bike hook into a stud without pre-drilling it? It splits immediately because there is no place for the wood to go. Just like that analogy, the soil, if you shove something into it without removing material, will compress it further, making the compaction even worse. You drill a pilot hole in wood before you put in a screw, to remove material to make room FOR the screw, just like the roots and grass seed and fertilizer, you need to remove material for there to be room for those things to be successful.
I agree...no rolling. The rolling process only serves to compact the soil and inhibit young root growth. I would only roll or compact the soil if filling in low spots, sink holes, etc, where the newly distributed soil is in excess of an inch thick. That makes sense, but then scarify the top inch for seeding. If you're gonna top dress a lawn..like it appears this lawn ONLY needed...then, what they did was overkill. Too much material. Top dress it, seed it, drag a leaf rake over top to "pop' the seed into the top dressing, and then cover with biodegradable mulch product like Penn Mulch or a sterilized (heat treated) straw that has been chopped and baled for easy distribution. The alternative would be core aeration and over seeding. I wouldn't even bother, and don't bother with the cores. They'll dry up and break apart on their own, or melt away from rain and serve as a supplemental top dressing within a week or so.
Now that it's been sometime I like to know how things turned out. Because from what I understand, putting down a soil layer on top of an old soil layer is the last thing one should do. Of course unless you want compact soil and poor drainage.
How much did they charge you? Its pretty much a slack off job IMO. They didn't even dethatch or aerate the lawn before putting down the top soil and seed. There was no need for top dressing but since he did it anyways, he still put too much of that. I'm assuming the reason you didn't post a followup video is because it turned out like shit.
"despatch"? What's that? also, if you mean dethatching, you can't dethatch a lawn that you're prepping for overseeding with a Jrco rake, those are for maintenance, you need to use specific motorized dethatchers or spring tine steel rakes.
@@theactualsalvagedrover You can detatch with a rake, I do it every year and I have the best lawn in the hood (their raking technique was pathetic and pure laziness from what I saw). The problem was that they didn't aerate and put down way too much soil that didn't get worked in properly.
I just used one of those 4 claw with a long T bar handle tools- yea, whatever that's called, to dig up my entire backyard ( minus 24 ft pool area) & discard the clumps of grass I dug up. Then put down some soil, then seed & fertilizer, raked, seed & fert and have been watering now for the waiting game; though it poured rain the day after this was done and so I added more seed for fear it washed into clumps and would create bare spots. This method in the video would have been much much easier, as I look at the raw blisters on my hands while I type this. I do hope it grows and was worth the effort; or I messed up and should have just gone over the existing patchy grass instead of ripping it up and clearing it away...
Use top soil or lawn soil on the barespots and sprinkle seeds then light go over seeds by sprinkling lawn soil/top soil over them. Then water heavy once and make sure all stays moist.
Very helpfull video. Please upload if it's possible how it looks like today . I have some problems with my lawn and i think this is the right way to make it better. Thank you.
Look how wobbly the lawn mower is and he has a big rut (so to speak) running down the middle of his yard to the tree. If he truly wanted a level yard it was close to the right amount of top soil. They were more so spreading it out with those rakes instead of working it trough the grass blades down to the original layer of soil. The Roller is just pushing down both the grass blades and the soil. If he kept up with the watering i'm sure half of the grass he had came back up through.
Thank you Nicholas for your comments. Unfortunately this city wants to take out the big tree that is on the lawn and I'm sure that that will be pretty dramatic experience for the lawn. I will wait and see what the city does with the lawn after they take out the tree. They have some pretty experienced gardeners so I'm hoping.
This year I am doing the job myself. I am overseeding. I am cutting the grass 3" high and a lot of watering. It is coming back. In August I will do a grub treatment.
I gave along the full treatment last week. It had fertilizer and weed control. It had a aeration and reseeding. Now I have to keep it wet for the next 14 days .
The soil is not needed in an overseed, if anything just a light dusting in the bare patches but you put it down after you put the seed down. The amount of soil they dumped on your lawn is crazy. All thats needed is an aerator and some seed.
No matter what anyone says, this is NOT the professional way to reseed a lawn, especially a lawn that was in decent shape to begin with. Waste of time, materials, energy and money.
warrior7772 I agree. They smothered the lawn. They did an awful job of raking in that dirt regardless if they are reseeding it or not it serves no purpose to kill the good grass you do have.
warrior7772 I’m new to this only the results would tell. If it failed that also would make a good video of after so us u tube knowledge seekers can quench our hunger for the know properly.
I would do it different but its the results that matter. As for me I aerate, mow,seed starter, water very lightly, seed, cover with mulch lightly, roll, water.
Use a tiller...remove rooted grass/weeds..add then add new dirt..compact the dirt...use aerator to put holes in soil ..plant grass seeds along with fertilizer ..add water periodically...within 30-60 days new golf course 😎
J. Johnson That sounds like a better plan than what I did. I let my gardener do the job. Maybe I should’ve been more specific after some long research.
I agree with your last comment. As soon as the winter is over here I will go to Walmart and get some fresh earth and some good Scotts lawn builder seed.
I roughed up bare spots, gave a liberal amount of seed, and covered with black earth, and am watering twice a day. Hopefully in 10 days I will see results.
That was 10 years ago. The lawn still needs more attention. I cut the weeds and clover and it looks green. The neighbors don’t complain so I guess I’m ok.
Ive used as much dirt as these guys did for jobs and the finishing product looked horrible. When I actually raked it in evenly it looked completely beautiful. Not sure what was the case in this lawn
Where I am doing the job all by myself. I figure April cost me in the end less than $25. I got many bags over to Walmart for one dollar each. The seed was a little expensive but that was it.
This is in Canada and usually in Canada winter there is like 6 months through out the year since it's so cold up there and summer is only what 3 months through the year. Grass there only last short due to cold winter damage.
lol We have about about 4 months of winter and great springs with 4 months of summer at 30 degree celcius weather...... falls are mild and we dont live in igloos .
omg that's awful. I rent and move house regularly and my landlords always amazed by what I've done to the grass. grass was already half decent and just needed a bit of love and a little seeding.
No No No!!! That's not right, you have to detach the lawn first if nesessary, then clean wherever comes out, mow the lawn very short, overseed the lawn and then put some top soil.
This job was done a couple of years ago. The loan is being up-and-down since then. I've had to deal with white grubs. This year the city is taking out my tree. Things change from day today.
The British equivalent is "knock, knock", "We can tarmac your drive, to be sure......It's a bit of a mess so it is". 6 months later and the cracks, weeds and bare patches appear.
Where you happy with the end result? It appeared "bumpy" when they were mowing it, my lawn is "bumpy" in some spots and it drives me nuts. Does the lawn seem smoother now?
That video was some ago. Now the lawn is all green but there are some weeds that make it look that way. I am less obsessive and more miserly these days.
I was charged $200 for this. Most people thought that I was getting a pretty good deal. Having four or five men work plus the soil plus everything else for 200 seem like a good deal to me too.
That was a very good deal I did it myself and it came to $500 with soil and seed. How did it come out? You should post an after video.
walter davis sir, he did it 8 years ago and may lots of worker are his friends
Pretty labor intensive. I would pay the $200 too.
I dont buy you paid 200 the seed alone is $100
B.S.
nice seeing people taking pride in making their area nice and respectable...not just for themselves but for the benefit of the neighbours
Honestly grass is really dumb. Lawns realistically should be used as large garden areas. Society doesn't accept it though. Lawns are not beneficial for our environment or wallet though tbh.
I think its better not to rake the seed into the soil. It just moves the seed and then you have bare spots where the rake moved seed too much from one area to another. This happened to me this spring. Its better just to put the seed down, cover it with about 1/4" to 1/2" of soil, roll it, and water it. You will have much better results with a much more even germination of the seeds across your lawn.
exactly... I never understood that
Would've really appreciated the 'AFTER' shot to see how it all came out. Good vid though.
I think their mistake was putting down way too much soil.
Agreed
gary, The mistake is having your lawn of grass suck your money time and water.
Great job guys for a small business just getting started
Ahahahah
If the lawn is not too big I'm sure that most people could do all of this stuff on their own. They don't need a big team of workers to do it.
I always heard that in eighth of an inch of soil was enough to cover the seats but maybe a quarter each would be a lot better. Your idea of seeding in the fall is a good one. That gives me all summer to think about it. Thanks for the great advice.
ONLY seed in the fall, EVER! your wasting your time and money otherwise and will end up spending more money on all the weeds that come with your partial grass ! just think,what happens to us when we wear a coat in heat?? we sweat, moisture means weeds. fall gives the seed time to mature without excess heat and once spring arrives and it comes in its free of weeds.
Man, it pained me to watch that video! They essentially destroyed your lawn... The proper process would be to mow short, dethatch to expose soil layer, clean the debris, core aerate the soil profile, spread half the seed, on top of cores, drag/aggressively rake to break up cores and incorporate seed to holes, apply a light layer (1/4") of quality compost, apply remaining seed, rake again, then roll the lawn. Water twice a day until seed germinates, then fertilize 2 weeks later and apply a broadleaf herbicide. That's the right way to do it
I would have thought rolling isnt a good idea. why isnt it better to have the soil nice and loose?
You can do a light rolling, or dread it in if the lawn is not to big.
would you spike as well as hollow tine ?
What does "dread it in" mean, exactly? Also, you NEVER want to "spike" aerate your lawn! have you ever tried to screw a bike hook into a stud without pre-drilling it? It splits immediately because there is no place for the wood to go. Just like that analogy, the soil, if you shove something into it without removing material, will compress it further, making the compaction even worse. You drill a pilot hole in wood before you put in a screw, to remove material to make room FOR the screw, just like the roots and grass seed and fertilizer, you need to remove material for there to be room for those things to be successful.
I agree...no rolling. The rolling process only serves to compact the soil and inhibit young root growth. I would only roll or compact the soil if filling in low spots, sink holes, etc, where the newly distributed soil is in excess of an inch thick. That makes sense, but then scarify the top inch for seeding. If you're gonna top dress a lawn..like it appears this lawn ONLY needed...then, what they did was overkill. Too much material. Top dress it, seed it, drag a leaf rake over top to "pop' the seed into the top dressing, and then cover with biodegradable mulch product like Penn Mulch or a sterilized (heat treated) straw that has been chopped and baled for easy distribution.
The alternative would be core aeration and over seeding. I wouldn't even bother, and don't bother with the cores. They'll dry up and break apart on their own, or melt away from rain and serve as a supplemental top dressing within a week or so.
Now that it's been sometime I like to know how things turned out. Because from what I understand, putting down a soil layer on top of an old soil layer is the last thing one should do.
Of course unless you want compact soil and poor drainage.
Sorry to have say this Mr Duff, but that is a shockingly bad job.
It would be great to be able to see an after shot of how this lawn turned out after this.
Great job !! hard working young guys , good boss helping and being cool , nice to see good people
How much did they charge you? Its pretty much a slack off job IMO. They didn't even dethatch or aerate the lawn before putting down the top soil and seed. There was no need for top dressing but since he did it anyways, he still put too much of that. I'm assuming the reason you didn't post a followup video is because it turned out like shit.
despatch was first, during the mowing.
"despatch"? What's that? also, if you mean dethatching, you can't dethatch a lawn that you're prepping for overseeding with a Jrco rake, those are for maintenance, you need to use specific motorized dethatchers or spring tine steel rakes.
They detached the lawn in the beginning with the rakes. You don't lawn much do you?
@@theactualsalvagedrover You can detatch with a rake, I do it every year and I have the best lawn in the hood (their raking technique was pathetic and pure laziness from what I saw). The problem was that they didn't aerate and put down way too much soil that didn't get worked in properly.
hard working guys. hope you got good results.
Good question. Too bad the lawn still looks like hell this spring. I guess I need to do it again.
Any video of how the lawn came out??
For the most part you are correct. The lawn does not look much better than when I started this project.
I just used one of those 4 claw with a long T bar handle tools- yea, whatever that's called, to dig up my entire backyard ( minus 24 ft pool area) & discard the clumps of grass I dug up. Then put down some soil, then seed & fertilizer, raked, seed & fert and have been watering now for the waiting game; though it poured rain the day after this was done and so I added more seed for fear it washed into clumps and would create bare spots. This method in the video would have been much much easier, as I look at the raw blisters on my hands while I type this. I do hope it grows and was worth the effort; or I messed up and should have just gone over the existing patchy grass instead of ripping it up and clearing it away...
how does the lawn look now? Could you post a video?
Use top soil or lawn soil on the barespots and sprinkle seeds then light go over seeds by sprinkling lawn soil/top soil over them. Then water heavy once and make sure all stays moist.
Very helpfull video. Please upload if it's possible how it looks like today . I have some problems with my lawn and i think this is the right way to make it better. Thank you.
Look how wobbly the lawn mower is and he has a big rut (so to speak) running down the middle of his yard to the tree. If he truly wanted a level yard it was close to the right amount of top soil. They were more so spreading it out with those rakes instead of working it trough the grass blades down to the original layer of soil. The Roller is just pushing down both the grass blades and the soil. If he kept up with the watering i'm sure half of the grass he had came back up through.
Thank you Nicholas for your comments. Unfortunately this city wants to take out the big tree that is on the lawn and I'm sure that that will be pretty dramatic experience for the lawn. I will wait and see what the city does with the lawn after they take out the tree. They have some pretty experienced gardeners so I'm hoping.
Where is the final updated views on how it looks already nice, grow and green?
This year I am doing the job myself. I am overseeding. I am cutting the grass 3" high and a lot of watering. It is coming back. In August I will do a grub treatment.
That makes a lot of sense. The rake does disturb the seeds.
Man i wish you had an after photo.
Would love to see how it looked 6 to 8 weeks later.
I gave along the full treatment last week. It had fertilizer and weed control. It had a aeration and reseeding. Now I have to keep it wet for the next 14 days
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This year I put down some fertilizer and some grass seed. We have had a lot of rain in the last week. The lawn looks pretty good right now.
Yes that tree does a very nice job every year for a couple of weeks
i dont understand how anyone gets any work done in those awful jean shorts/capris
Richmond Vernon a
It's a lifestyle.
The soil is not needed in an overseed, if anything just a light dusting in the bare patches but you put it down after you put the seed down. The amount of soil they dumped on your lawn is crazy. All thats needed is an aerator and some seed.
No matter what anyone says, this is NOT the professional way to reseed a lawn, especially a lawn that was in decent shape to begin with. Waste of time, materials, energy and money.
really why explain please
Warrior absolutely spot on!
Ikr they smothered the lawn they should have cut it short then dethatch then aerate then put the dirt then the seed
warrior7772 I agree. They smothered the lawn. They did an awful job of raking in that dirt regardless if they are reseeding it or not it serves no purpose to kill the good grass you do have.
warrior7772 I’m new to this only the results would tell. If it failed that also would make a good video of after so us u tube knowledge seekers can quench our hunger for the know properly.
were youhappy with the results after 2 or 3 months?
I would do it different but its the results that matter. As for me I aerate, mow,seed starter, water very lightly, seed, cover with mulch lightly, roll, water.
At first I didn't like the lawn but then it grew on me !!!
Dan the houses are going up in price to near a 1/2 million now so keeping the place in shape does pay off.
you in Toronto?
Well?
Right now the lawn is under the snow. I’ll show you next June!
Lawn looks pretty good now.
How is your lawn looking now??
I can't believe it either Jon. This year I have Green Space.
I wonder which one of them plays the banjo.
Thanks for sharing. I'll do this to my lawn!!
The boss is the boss... You have a video after?
Use a tiller...remove rooted grass/weeds..add then add new dirt..compact the dirt...use aerator to put holes in soil ..plant grass seeds along with fertilizer ..add water periodically...within 30-60 days new golf course 😎
J. Johnson That sounds like a better plan than what I did. I let my gardener do the job. Maybe I should’ve been more specific after some long research.
You recommend compost over starter fertilizer? If so, that is quite the savings.
It may not be a life or death issue, but reseeding the lawn is very very important.
Ian Duff depending on the type of seed used you don't have to reseed any lawn
Great video. What type of grass did they seed into your lawn? In Oregon, we would probably use something similar.
I agree with your last comment. As soon as the winter is over here I will go to Walmart and get some fresh earth and some good Scotts lawn builder seed.
I roughed up bare spots, gave a liberal amount of seed, and covered with black earth, and am watering twice a day. Hopefully in 10 days I will see results.
GOT THE AFTER VIDEO ?
How much did you pay for that? Also, when did thsy do the work, spring or fall? Hows the result? Thanks! Hope you could answer my questions!
No there was no hate put on top to protect this grass. Maybe they should've done that to hold in the moisture.
Did you have a part 2 to see how it turned out?
That was 10 years ago. The lawn still needs more attention. I cut the weeds and clover and it looks green. The neighbors don’t complain so I guess I’m ok.
I'm convinced when people show No final result, That job was a flop? Also, all of that work and no aerating before hand???
Ive used as much dirt as these guys did for jobs and the finishing product looked horrible. When I actually raked it in evenly it looked completely beautiful. Not sure what was the case in this lawn
That sounds right. Loose packed soil can hold the seed and push through when it is ready in about 10 days.
I absolutely agree with your last comment. Makes a lot of sense to me. Clay underneath.
This is very inspiring. I appreciate your content. How many yards of dirt is that if you don't mind me asking. Thanks.
how long did it take and what did they stiff you with? final price? rolling it only damages the seeds I would imagine
The earth would be expensive where I am (japan). I am wondering how to get rid of the weeds before seeding and which seeds to use.
You are probably right Adam. It would've kept the moisture in more.
Where I am doing the job all by myself. I figure April cost me in the end less than $25. I got many bags over to Walmart for one dollar each. The seed was a little expensive but that was it.
Yes compost coz its much fiberous to retain more water than fertilizer. Fertilizer doesn't play until after 5 weeks
This is in Canada and usually in Canada winter there is like 6 months through out the year since it's so cold up there and summer is only what 3 months through the year. Grass there only last short due to cold winter damage.
lol We have about about 4 months of winter and great springs with 4 months of summer at 30 degree celcius weather...... falls are mild and we dont live in igloos .
summer in Ontario stars may 1st to November 15th.
Looks like they got the work release crew out there 😆
Local lads with strong backs. Not always easy to find.
You are absolutely right. The ground should be broken up. There is a lot of clay underneath there.
Any update how it ended becoming??
omg that's awful. I rent and move house regularly and my landlords always amazed by what I've done to the grass. grass was already half decent and just needed a bit of love and a little seeding.
so what happens after they roll the lawn do they just water the grass and wait for the grass to grow
What kind of dirt did they use? Do you know? Was it just black dirt or compost?
No No No!!! That's not right, you have to detach the lawn first if nesessary, then clean wherever comes out, mow the lawn very short, overseed the lawn and then put some top soil.
How’d it turn out?
good stuff man, just what i needed to watch before working on mine.
This job was done a couple of years ago. The loan is being up-and-down since then. I've had to deal with white grubs. This year the city is taking out my tree. Things change from day today.
Adding manure would be excellent for any lawn.
We are following you!
Nice video you have there! I really learn a lot just by watching your video.
With all the rain we've been having this year, it looks fantastic.
I thought it was expensive but when so many showed up I too was suprized. Took about 1 hour. I guess 200 for 1 hour was not bad to him.
The job was done well for a fair price and the lawn was healthier after.
Ian Duff fucking lier Where is the proof of your healthy lawn?
How much did it all cost, I had my front yard done . Which by the my yard is not that big it was $1,000
total? what about the cost of seeds and soil ?
The British equivalent is "knock, knock", "We can tarmac your drive, to be sure......It's a bit of a mess so it is".
6 months later and the cracks, weeds and bare patches appear.
Grass looked pretty good to me beforehand haha
I would agree amatures...you should get rid of that large tree to get some sun into that area if you want a good lawn in that area.
The big was cut down ..open now
@@Duffy512 fantastic
Is there a follow up video to this?
How do you attach a new video to an old video. I could go out and take a couple of shots of the lawn now.
Where you happy with the end result?
It appeared "bumpy" when they were mowing it, my lawn is "bumpy" in some spots and it drives me nuts.
Does the lawn seem smoother now?
Beautiful Dogwood Tree.
That video was some ago. Now the lawn is all green but there are some weeds that make it look that way. I am less obsessive and more miserly these days.
How long and how many times did you water once it was ready to go?
I let God take care of the watering. He does a good job.
I think I will follow your advice and get a rototiller ...then seed and fertilize.
How much did that cost?
Thank you very much for your compliment.
Ok thanks man. Can I use manure as compost?
I bet you find those guys on Kijiji
Your video hit the 1 million view mark. Can we get an update video?
That is a good idea. Tomorrow if it stop raining I will.