Meet The New Renault 5’s Crazy Cousin!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- In our final episode from this year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed, Jack takes a look around another incoming electric hot hatch and the very first EV from French performance car brand, Alpine: the A290. Derived from the hotly anticipated Renault 5 EV, could this be the most exciting electric hot hatch yet?
00:00 Intro
00:19 About the Renault 5
01:03 Introducing the A290
02:57 Technical components/ Engineering elements
03:57 Bespoke battery platform
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We need more three seaters. A central driving position would be a hell of a selling point.
Would also mean one model globally too, and we'd get it earlier in the UK! 😁
Agreed. Designing my own EV and it has a centre driving position for that and other reasons.
Perfect for me, as there's only me!
Seriously why have they not called it the Renault Fi EV?
Won't a central seat make s drive through difficult?
Alpine should ABSOLUTELY keep the 3-seat layout for the production version. I also vehemently disagree with Jack that this should be a single motor, front drive setup. If they're going single motor it should definitely be RWD. However, a dual motor, AWD version would certainly be a beast if they, Alpine, can keep the weight around one tonne. All-in-all, though, this is a great looking concept.
something group B rally style with the awd version would be absolutely crazy as well. I hope the motors are in the back instead of the front
I also disagree with Jack about Avatar 2. But the 3-seat looks interesting, though it might be the compromise that makes no-one happy in the end.
Renault 5 GT turbo..... proper legend
Them were the days.
I will be AMAZED if this new 5 comes in the low £20,000s!! I just can't see it suddenly dropping the madness of electric car pricing!
About to be released now. Base model is 25k but you can't get that in the UK. 30k for UK base model, so yep. You were right
I want an electric R5 Turbo, basically a mid EV with room for one's SO, groceries and luggage. Perfect for City Hooning.
You can't turbo-charge an electric motor! 🙂
Yeah really hope that Renault will bring out a Renault 5 RS Version or so or hell even an GT would be fine.
Probably they will name it R5 Turbo just because of the old time, would it make sense? No? But tell that Porsche first 😂
@@hamshackleton Tell that to the team behind the Porsche Taycan Turbo S 😂😂😂😂
@@stevenjones916 Yes, I know - but how can you increase the fuel/air mix with a compressor - on a motor that doesn't use fuel or air?
Where I live they are the Holden Commodore V8 and Ford Falcon XR6 Ute
This is definitely the car I'm most excited for as well, I honestly can't wait to see what it's like. Might be the first car I genuinely consider having a monthly payment on, and not just buying some old used thing
If you were looking at the Alpine the rumour is it's £40k approx
Love it!!
Does anyone else get a little bit excited about the concept of there being a thing called "Group E rallisport"?
Um... Maybe, but I don't. Whatever else it turns out to be, I'm betting that it won't be focused on outright performance. It won't be allowed. It'll be a sanitised, eco-friendly project, bogged down by safety concerns and obsessed with portraying itself as ultra green and not a threat to anyone or anything. An anaemic, nut-free, neurotically vegan motorsport option, if you like.
Group-B was marvellous and terrible in equal measure. We lost far too many people to it, both drivers and spectators, but both were attracted to it and enthused by the very thing that caused its demise. Group-B was focused on performance and innovation. Rallying has not been the same since.
When you watch footage of Group-B you can't help but wince at the spectators packed 20-deep along the stages, literally forming living crash-barriers for the cars. It's appalling, but that's the kind of passion that it inspired. I can't imagine crowds of spectators slogging half way up a mountain to cheer their heroes on or standing shivering in a snowy forest at midnight to watch an EV zip past.
It's more likely that all-electric rallisport events will take place indoors in nice clean arenas. As someone who spent many (blissful!) hours standing in Kielder and Dalby nursing a flask of hot tea and handing round sandwiches and bags of crisps, listening for Quattros, Deltas, Mantas, 205s, 6R4s - and yes, Renault R5 Turbos - to arrive, I can say that I definitely wouldn't get out of bed and brave the lovely British weather for a Group E-lectric series.
Does that make me a grumpy petrolhead dinosaur? Yep.😁
Today's WRC cars are certainly impressive high-tech machines - amazingly fast and nimble - and the drivers show no less commitment and skill than any other motorsport professionals determined to give their all behind the wheel. But the cars lack the analogue spark and insane pioneering spirit that made Group-B special, and I very much doubt that an 'E' series will be as exciting as rally fans would like it to be.
I hope I'm wrong. I usually am about most things...
THANKS FOR PRONOUNCING THE NAME PROPERLY
😂😂😂😂😂that’s crazy , who says it like that
Back in the 80's I floated concrete in the footwell of my Renault 5, since it was so, so rusty! Fond memories . . .
Renault seems to be coming out with some interesting vehicles. I wish they had a presence in the US though I realize why they don't. Still, I'd love to see something like this here. I am so so sick and tired of SUVs. A hot hatch would be a breath of fresh air.
GR Corolla.....but if you want an EV, 500e Abarth
@@fortheloveofnoise9298 I’m here just waiting for the Fiat 500e.
Seems like this would have been a great project for the Protean in-wheel motors like SAAB used in their Emily prototype. Alpine would make great use of 4-wheel torque vectoring.
Nice video.
Perfect for the McLaren F1 driver, who needs a little runaround.
"A single pant." I laughed like a loon at that one!😂😂😂😂😂
Why?
Looks like a beautiful car!
Alfie's ten ways to fix football, is surely a video we all want to watch!
the 3 seater would be epic...no LHD production required...
Why the hell didn't they just call it the Alpine A5?
Audi might have taken A5
@@garethneal82 Good point. AR5? A5R? AX5? A210 even. But 290? Just seems a weird choice.
Thank you
0:31 shots fired 😂
I hope they keep the three seat configuration and please rear wheel drive like the current a110. Sounds good if the weigh is down
For below €25.000 we would buy Renault 5, as long as it has a minimum range of 300km and fast charging.
Finally there will be more small lightweight and 2--door EV's. Less material is less weight is less cost is more range.
The most households have 2 or less persons anyway.
Pretty sure the Renault 5 is a 4-door annoyingly, I hope the Alpine is a 2 door but I doubt it.
You won’t get cheap and fast charging. You might not get either. By the time this gets to manufacturer retail price it will come with air conditioning and a bunch of other crap like lane keep assist and seatbelt pretensioners to keep the sales wonk happy. “Who will think of the children” they will say. GTFO of my life
I once had a Renault 5 for maybe 7 years and was very happy with it. Today I have a SmartED two-seater, mainly for testing purposes and because I'm going to make an all-terrain three-seater out of it. With all practical features such as a solar roof, bidirectional charging, 4 wheel motors, high efficiency and ground clearance, 3 seats in a length of 2.8m and the experience of the small Smart and Toyota IQ. But a two-seater is of little use to me, somehow selfish and for singles.
Hey Jack. Love your work 👍
Jack I want to take a moment to just ask where you got that green shirt from because it's fuego haha
cool, dose it come in those black and orange Tron look?
Great video. Hard to get excited about prototypes.
I enjoyed the ball fondle at 237
Looks great but I can't wait for the Renault 5...Yipee
Looks as cool retro-like as that Honda from two years back (that they TOTALLY stuffed by not giving it any range).
Honda should bring that back with blade battery and some range at a decent price. I'd buy it.
AMC Gremlin’s crazy cousin
@@begodecrashtestdummythat’s mad.
When I look at the old one (turbo 2) and the new one, I'd still rather pay through the nose for the old one if I could but thanks for the info
Im also quite excited about the 5, would be a nice replacement for my current Clio 2, she is from 2002 and still runs perfect but now some stuff is occurring like the roof lining coming down, the driver window doesnt stop anymore and bottoms out. I really want a new car with the same dimensions and the R5 seems perfect and alos I swore to myself I will never buy a pure petrol car again, especially not a brand new one. The Clio 2 was my first car and I really love it, perfect size, perfect visibility and its actually quite nifty to drive, of course its an old car now so haha yeah.
Currently the only car I have am Eye on is the Toyota Yaris Hybrid and I really hope that the R5 comes soon, is affordable and till than my girl keeps running 😅
Note to the video editor - perhaps next time, exclude the stand visitor adjusting his junk from the cut, eh? 🤣 @2:37
Will it come with a fancy carbon-fibre litter picker so the centrally located driver can reach ticket machines in car parks. etc.? 😆
Nice, I wanted to see the interior tho 😅
I’m put off by the fwd Renault but if this version is dual motor it gives me hope
Whilst I like the 5 EV, but the Alpine version is immediately going to be expensive and slower than the FAR cheaper MG4 X-power.
Slower 0-60 but almost certainly better dynamically and with brakes that can actually handle to power of the motors. Will be interesting to see which ends up being more fun to drive.
@@kingdomofashes Always the dodgy one with iffy brakes is more fun. Stuff that is well sorted is boring and sterile.
If my brother's MG4 is anything to base the MG4 X is anything to go on, it'll drive like it's on rails and knock the air out of your lungs as it slams you into your seat, 0-60. Anyone who knocks the MG4 is just a dick who's never driven one.
@ianworley8169 The "drive" is indeed one of its best features. I have knocked the MG4 for its seats ... but clearly the MG4 X-power has better, firmer seats.... So nothing to knock.
@@ianworley8169 Wow, a car so perfect you didn't even buy one! I have driven one but not on a track. It's a nice car, particularly for the money but at no point did I think I was in a mini, lotus elise or mx-5 in terms of handling. Also, the interior is ok but nothing special, you certainly don't think you must be in a Merc.
The fact that the old renault 5 is now an oldtimer makes me sad cuz I used to be driven around in one as a kid :D
If they can keep it around 20k ... I think it might finaly be time to buy a new car. My 12yo clio is showing its age.
A shade over a ton, as in 1.5 tonnes? My i3s is the same size, has a smaller battery and is made from aluminium and carbon fiber. Weight? 1380kg. 1390 with the i8 wheels. If they manage to get below that I'll trade it in.
Well the Megane e-tech is 1.6 and the zoe 1.4 and apparently they've managed to shave a fair few kg off the R5's battery compared to the zoe, so maybe 1.2 for the regular R5ev at a push, not sure whether this would be heavier or lighter.
@@madmandonna1 according to Wikipedia megane goes from 1650 to 1780 depending on spec and battery and the Zoe from 1500 to 1590. I'll grant them 100kg for a more energy dense battery but there's bound to be at least 45 to 50kWh in there to be competitive. So.... 1400 with a battery like that and a steel frame will be tough. I'll be watching closely, especially if the alpine ends up having real wheel drive like the maxi turbo of days past. That sounds so fun. Please, Alpine, throw in a LSD as well.
@@AlbertLamarque Yeah I've read a few things about the 5, as I'm itching to get rid of my Zoe (I hate the way it looks, fine to drive), I think I read it's going from something like 12 cells to 4 in the battery which makes it lighter and more efficient, but I can't imagine it's be less than 1400, Renault will be wizards if they manage it.
Want one 😊
This is going to be a 2 seater? Does that make this Aptera’s less efficient cousin?
Visit the NEVS(Saab) Emily GT project in Sweden. Coolest EV to date..
Still waiting for the production model Ollie ..❤
I enjoyed Avatar 2 … the car looks nice
I want this car
Will there be a standard (non Alpine) hot/fast 5 option?
Think the Renault 5 will still be plenty hot with it being an EV, my old Renault Zoe EV has 88 horsepower and feels like it has 140 and is great fun to drive, so an even lighter Renault 5 with 130-160 electric horsepower will be amazing and probably as fast or faster than a Polo GTI/Golf GTI.
Cool
Maybe next time you could show the car, instead of just blocking the view for 4 min
im hoping for single rear motor! .)
No excuse for there being no Alpine Zoe or Alpine Twizy
c'mon!
Not an EV fan but had 2 5 turbos over 20 years.
The battery being molded into the chassis sounds concerning given the life span of EV batteries 🤔
The lifespan of the batteries nowadays is better than what most people think. In 15 years (given the car was used normally and not just left 0 depleted for ages) it should keep something like 75% of original capacity.
At 200,000km the battery is expected to hold 80-85% capacity.
Good
Please Please make the 3 seater
We don't really even have Renault in Canada other than in Quebec.
Why would you want FWD when there's no heavy engine up front to push the wheels into the ground?
Why is 3-seater “never gonna happen”?
We need small mainstream (Alpine is not, but someone else could make one) 3-seaters. Think about it. Now we have small cars that have two usable front seats and three cramped back seats. So the car practically seats two people. With three seats, you can have three usable seats.
Why are we so set in 2+(3) setup? Why not 1+2?
What about the original Renault alpine?
Please Please PLEASE export the Renault or the Alpine (or both) to the USA.
well done! Renault is looking fine..so is your shirt. btw, you have a small hamster stuck in your collar.
Always weird to see the video name changing? Something to do with algorithm or did Alpîne not want their name on the video title?
the new renault 5 is uber sexy ❤❤❤❤
Gatecrashed by a Chinook in the last few seconds Jack? 😂
Dont breath in the smoke from a cobalt fire from your EV when it catches fire. Run as fast as you can.
You won't be able to breathe if we don't switch genius
If you want the public to change to EV’s you need to give us these type of cars….
Very lovely but please, move of the way and show us the car !
These very large roll-on / roll-off Car Vehicle Transporter Vessels design, will need to be review in light of all these Fire and Sinking's which are happening too.
Or the vessels being so badly damaged and destroyed, they have to be turn into scrap metal basically!
Their designs especially require being internationally review, of Fire Safety and Fire Fighting by such a small crew onboard too. Or last over carrying Electric Vehicles, or Hybrid Electric vehicles.
Should EV's and HEV's be carried, in specialised Fire and Water Proof Armoured Shipping Containers, with built in Automatic Fire Suppression or Flooding Systems.
With each specialised EV Fire Suppression Shipping Container, having both built in CCTV and built-in Fire Smoke Gas Dectection Sensors and Audio Visual Alarms too.
With cameras and sensors both linked to the bridge, or a Fire Safety Monitoring Station (which is manned 24/7/52) from each Specialised EV Fire Suppression Shipping Containers being carried onboard too.
Which if one of these Specialised EV Fire Suppression Shipping Containers, would automatically be flood if the EV or HEV stored inside burst into flames and was on Fire , stopping or delaying any Fire spreading out of control to other vehicles.
Or any EV Fire spreading out of control, to other areas and decks of the Roll-on / Roll-off Vehicle Transporter Vessel too.
Or spreading to other of these Specialised EV Fire Suppression Shipping Containers onboard a vessel too.
As well as transporting not connected or disconnected Electric Battery Energy Packs, in shipping Containers as well. Whether these Electric Battery Energy Packs, either powering Electric Devices, Equipment and Systems, or any kind of Electric Vehicles too.
It is one way to stop EV Fires onboard vessels, spreading out of control, which a small number of ships crew of these Roll-on / Roll-off Vehicle Transporter Vessel , can clearly handle!
Suggestion by yours truly Gurkhamum Wendy and Wheelchaircharlie39 David, We would not touch an EV, because of the Fire Risk also because we are Disabled too!
Renault have always been innovative, hey?
Odd that you guys didn't mention the MG4 XPower? It was out when you filmed this, and I think it's going to make all the European/Japanese EV hot hatches look very overpriced, to their detriment - £35k, >400bhp, >4s 0-60. Also any manufacturer claiming they haven't made their EV quick on purpose is just marketing babble, like the MX30 claiming it had a low range to save on lithium.
Great looking car but you don’t won’t 200 bhp and front wheel drive. You wouldn’t get any traction under hard acceleration. I experienced that when I had my Kia e Niro.
Um..... No. Plenty of hot hatches with front wheel drive with similar numbers and an awful lot more. No problem putting the power down with modern electronics
@@robsmall6466 true to a point. I’m talking pure Ev’s. To help prevent wheel spin on a front wheel drive car they have to feed the power in. They do this by electronically limiting the power. If you have ever driven a 200bhp front wheel drive Ev you would know that the throttle is like a switch the power is instant. Kia and Hyundai on the next generation Niro Ev and kona have done just that hence why it’s not as quick. On paper. You had to have the perfect road surface and conditions to achieve it in the first generation cars but really were an Ev really scores is on that midrange acceleration. And yes you can then use all that 200 bhp Can give you
@@stephenclay6852 To be honest I'd take any petrol powered hot hatch with similar bhp as an alternative to this. I don't see what the fuss is about. Fun is the order of the day. It doesn't have to be rear wheel drive and big numbers.
Why is front motors so common with EVs? Especially sporty ones would be better with RWD.
Yes, yes and more yes……bring the 5 retro…….but it will never be low 20s more like low 30s.
Why 20.000 when even a Dacia Spring is more expensive here ?
That's some fancy chest hair Raaawr
Love the chest hair😊
I like the name 🌶️ Renault more.
And to think they could of made this first. But no they chose to give us the ZOEY 😅
If I was a f** billionare I would always got my hands on those pre-production or concept cars , they normally look better and in this case that 3 seater is amazing I would pay whatever they ask me tbh.
@@PorthLlwyd I know I know, but "DON DINERO" can fix any trouble or fault with it.
But BTW, What they do with them?, They never got into private hands, right?, They got stored in some museum or just collecting dust in some basement?
Can I just say I like your fit? From one dude to another - I'm gonna be stealing that idea of buttoning up just the middle button!
Also, this hatch is just 🤌 Love Alpine's design. Wish they were here in Canada!
Pretty certain Percival hook him up with his threads.
Great, another SUV. How can they mess up the Renault 5 as well?
If I was selling EV Fiat Arbath 500's, I'd be worried.
Weigh just over a tonne ? I'll believe that when I see it.
meet? i would not say “meet”
This bloke would say a dog turd was fantastic if they paid him enough and it had a battery fitted.😂
I once had a boss who ran an Alpine GTA as his daily driver which I got to have a play with. Horrible handful to drive and if I remember correctly he totalled it during the first winter he had to drive it in.
How is that relevant to 2023, and have you heard of the current A110?
@@LightBranches Is a Ferrari Dino relevant to 2023? _Some_ of us have car experience, and love of cars, that stretches back much further than the latest crop of EV prototypes. It was just the mention of the latest proto-Alpine made me think back to an Alpine I have actually driven, the GTA of 1989.
@@ianmason. right, but your focus seemed to be on the fact that the lovely old GTA was horrible to drive...
@@LightBranches So I should report something contrary to the facts as known by me? The GTA wasn't lovely - it was ugly, a pig to drive and had one of the worst views of the road I've ever encountered in a car. Why, oh why, are you making a fuss about this?
@@ianmason. what a traumatic Alpine experience...
I'm not so sure I want a new car based on a design one year older than myself - it is like if Renault for the 1972 model year brought back the type NN. of the 1920s.. Remember that one? No? I liked the original 5 and loved the super 5, but that does not mean I would want a new one. It is like wearing the same clothes I did back in 1985 - don't want to do that either. Retro-cars are generally a sign of a total lack of new ideas, which is a shame, because the general design language of this and the concept 5 is great, if just the sum of it looked so 70s/80s... I would want to replace my corrent Zoe, when it is finally time to, with a bold, fresh new Zoe with an aerodynamically enhanced body and functional but futuristc looks much more than something that looks like a toy-car version of the cars of my childhood...
I think the R5 gives me futuristic looking over retro styling, there's something Cyber punk about it. In terms of design, as they say, a classic never dies.
Renault?? O yeah ... them. We haven't seen them being sold here in North America for years and so I really can't get too excited. Nice car though .
Alpeeen you mean alpine mate
HOW do you manage to make a video about a car WITHOUT EVER SHOWING THE ENTIRE CAR? Just detail shots. The thumbnail literally has the only side-on image of the vehicle.
Structural battery packs are a very, VERY bad idea. They will make repair and recycling next to impossible. Which is exactly why the manufacturers want to do it.
Whats with this trend of videos just stopping with no sign off? I keep thinking Ive lost signal or something but no, videos just stop. Is that what the kids are into these days?
I don't want a car with the battery where my butt should be. I can see why they're putting the battery there but I want to be lower. This seems like it's a lowered SUV.
How much for a new battery
Cool, but I rather had a non-retro 5.
We look forward to seeing you at FullyChargedCanada! That's if JustinTrudeau hasn't frozen your bank account! Don't mention truckers or you'll be banned from everything!
Shame they don’t make it as diesel.
2 people + 🐕
Front wheel drive makes a zero sense for an EV. The only reason hot hatches have front-wheel drive is because they're based on a front-wheel drive architecture. If they could have real-wheel drive affordably they would.
Needs to be a 2.0 turbo otherwise it will not sell. People are not interested in EVs
I love comments like this, thank you so much catch22crypto, you clearly know a lot about this topic.
No one, according to you, literally no one is interested in electric cars.
Okay, fair point.
Maybe no one except the 26 MILLION people around the world who have bought an electric car.
And when we hold our live events, all the tens of thousands of people who attend are not in the least interested in electric cars according to you.
Because literally no one is interested in EV's. And you should know, because you use the word 'crypto in your TH-cam identiry, which really makes you stand out as being extra special.