Dude, you’re like one of the few that actually made what I was looking for! Thanks a lot! In my opinion the gravel bike shoes should have been there all along for road cycling as well. They shouldnt be advertised as solely for gravel as maybe 9 out of 10 people want walkable road cyling shoes. But literally no one is making them🤯 Biggest gap in the cycling market if you ask me! Only Fizik has seen the light and came out with the Tempo Beat recently. Check them out! To all other cycle companies out there watching and reading: MAKE WALKABLE ROAD CYCLING SHOES!
I’m pretty sure that I’m out of tune with the marketing scheme of the whole gravel rabbit hole of accessories but, I like using toe cages. They give me the up stroke power and I can wear any shoe that I can cram into the cage, like my 5 10 MTB shoes, my top siders, my hiking shoes. Crocs are tough to ram into the cages. The best thing about riding my bike in gravel is that I can call myself a gravel rider now, adding to my title of MTBer, and general around cyclist.
im just using my old mtb pedals which are combi pedals. one side for clipping in and the other side without. this gives me 2 advantages. one i can use the flat side if the terrain is very sketchy and i dont want to be clipped in and two i can use normal shoes when i go for a slow and easy ride with my little kids. seems to be the best of two worlds to me.
The ideal gravel shoe before gravel specific shoes came out were cross country shoes which have always just been road shoes with SPD mounts. Really, that's it. However, the new gravel shoes are worth moving over from MTB/XC shoes because they are burlier than road shoes (win) and not as bulky as MTB/XC specific shoes. MTB specific shoes aren't made for long miles on the road (even a gravel road) and they get uncomfortable quick. Gravel specific shoes really do deserve their own place especially if you're into bikepacking where you'll be walking around on ground a lot once you reach your destination. I got a pair of "Sidi MTB Gravel" shoes which are basically road shoes on steroids and nothing like their MTB shoes. Awesome for the task and at a great price too and they mate up perfectly to my XT pedals.
Are they the Shimano PD-EH500 SPD Pedals? Thinking on grabbing these for my gravel bike which will also be a commute bike to school (so I can use the flat side with my casual school sneakers). Are they too heavy? Or do they flip around when you take your feet off because then sides are weighted differently? Do they still perform well as a clip less pedal?
I've recently switched from spd (Shimano xt) to spd sl (time xspresso) clips. I mainly ride Gravel in the Netherlands where you don't have really nasty trails with a lot of clipping in and out or even walking. Therefore I prefer the road pedals over mtb pedals because the don't have that much play and a wider / stiffer platform... When riding on really nasty trails or bad weather conditions with a lot of mud and slippery sections I switch them over to mtb pedals. It just depends on how much 'footwork' there is on your ride what's the best pedal to use...
I used SIDI MTB shoes with LOOK PP286 ARC on my Colnago. That way when you got off you could stand properly flat to the ground instead of balancing on the cleats on road shoes. This was in 96ish
I used road pedals and shoes once on a gravel ride because I didn’t want clunky heavy feel of 2 bolt mtb shoe -I wanted light stiff and fast like on road bike. the first time I stepped off in anything but pavement I had issues clipping back in, walking in gravel in 3 bolt is a nightmare, even a single blade of grass kept me from clipping in. I Discovered the rx8 shoe, they feel like my road sphyres but in a 2 bolt and much cheaper. My problems were solved. My opinion is yes, “gravel” shoe makes sense, not as clunky as mtb shoe, but more useable off-road than a road shoe.....kinda like a gravel bike itself.
So for the last three years of Gravel/CX biking I just transferred my old mountain bike XT pedals over to my CX bike. The only thing that I have noticed is after about 3 hours my feet start to get hot points on them. I probably need to stop more and stretch. I have thought of just putting road pedals on but when you're walking in gravel, mud, sand those road shoes are not very good and those conditions.
As a recreational rider I also only use SPD MTB Cleats/Shoes (not SPD-SL) on Road Bikes. Just for the Walking :-) And it is nice to see more Gravel Shoes, that are lighter and closer in design to Road Shoes, but with SPD cleats and a stiff sole that works great on road bikes. SPD-SL/Look.... etc. are good if you do racing, and on a raodbile they can give you an advantage, but that is not for me riding for fun. My favorites are Fizik Overcurve X3, Shimano RX800 and some MTB Versions from Gaerne (so comfy).
You don't need anything of this. Don't get fooled by these youtubers. They need to keep endorsing products, so they can make some money. As if road cycling, swimming and running wasn't enough, now he want to introduce gravel riding. Give me a break!
@@lgmsampaio Seriously, dude? If you've never ridden a gravel bike or a MTB along a trail, that's your loss. I feel sorry for you because it is truly an amazing experience. Please don't inflict your ignorance on others. Life is too short to listen to idiots like you.
I bought a pair of nice flat pedals and tried on my gravel bike… maybe psychological but I was really scared pedalling, specially on descents… and now back on my clip-less road pedals … however I am now toiling with the idea of MTB pedals because walking in a road shoe is really really annoying.
XTs are nice, but shimano SPD is a really solid pedal/cleat, way more than spd-sl, it has kinda peaked technology wise, even the 20 dollar versions are good and will probably last you a lifetime. only real differences are weight.
Hi Taren, Thx for your video and channel. It’s very inspiring and motivating. Taren, I keep following your advice to run on zone 2. It’s now my third week and what i see it’s a decrease in my VO2 max... 1 point per week... is that ok and normal? Thanks again and keep up with your great job!
Can’t believe I actually just watched this, someone who doesn’t really know what they’re talking about giving advice to others. I guess that’s the way to make money on TH-cam
To throw it out there, I use flat MTB pedals when gravel riding. Literally 10 studies showing no difference in performance and I prefer it so go with it.
Thanks - great overview. I really like the Speedplays because the shoe has a little left-right “play” or movement when clipped in. My knees are much happier with this. Do any of these gravel pedals have a similar amount of movement? Or are they all locked in solid?
Time Atac allow the front of your shoe to float, I’ve just swapped to them from SPD and my knees are much happier, whether I’ll be able to clip in and out as easy during a cross race I’ve still to find out
Hello Taren, I am have bought my first Gravel bike, i plan to use it 80% road and 20% gravel, however idk what pedals would be best for me, specially because I want to be able to walk whenever I disengage my feet from the pedal, not sure if buying mtb pedals and gravel shoes would be better for me instead of road shoes and pedals. If I buy Gravel shoes and mtb pedals, would I have any issues during while I do road journeys (+100km)? Or would be better to buy two separated shoes and pedals for gravel and road? Thanks in advance!
How do you like your Canyon Grail SL CF 8? I’m deciding between that and a Bianchi Impulso Allroad. Wanting something that can really be enjoyable both on gravel and long pavement rides. The Impulso seems know n for that versatility but the grail seems to maybe favor gravel and not as road friendly...thoughts?
An XC race mtb shoe will basically be the same as a gravel shoe, both will have a stiff sole that’s carbon or another composite, and are designed for efficiency as well as being able to walk in them. You want to stay away from more trail or DH oriented shoes, because those are floppy and designed solely for comfort, they have a similar sole to a skateboarding shoe. I run the Fizik Terra X5 shoes, they’re not too expensive if you find them on sale and they’re stiff enough for good power transfer.
very nice handle bar :-) by the way the platform on road are better, some gotta make similar for out of bounds, and or the cleats from shimano cant stand much
Great video. On another topic: I'm looking to buy a budget Canyon and upgrade to that seatpost you have in the video. Can anyone comment on whether or not the carbon seatposts are worth it for ride comfort? Thanks so much!
I have a mountain bike but I need something for transportation and I'm talking a couple miles if you know what I mean, I run crankbrothers on my mtb and I'll just use some eggbeaters, a xc pedal and use my shoes any experts have advice on that setup
Very informative! Nice to see I'm not the only one who spends too much everytime I go to Alter Ego. You gotta get rid of the half peeled sticker on the crank arm before your next video though 😉
I shouldn’t let his pronunciation of Shimano irritate me so much but it does. Don’t even want to hear him say panniers lol (sorry man not be a hater, was a good video and I learned stuff)
to me this is practically normals I have multiple bikes and i share 1 pair of pedals to all of them Tbh i thought mtb clipless only exists and i thought that was the norm I was wrong.
MKS Urban pedals and Zefal nylon quarter clips, pair 5 10 shoes. Vastly more flexible. You can walk normally. Wear running shoes. Clipless is just another way to gouge cyclists with marketing hype.
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"Biking is a never ending money pit" bro I like that!
Dude, you’re like one of the few that actually made what I was looking for! Thanks a lot!
In my opinion the gravel bike shoes should have been there all along for road cycling as well. They shouldnt be advertised as solely for gravel as maybe 9 out of 10 people want walkable road cyling shoes. But literally no one is making them🤯 Biggest gap in the cycling market if you ask me!
Only Fizik has seen the light and came out with the Tempo Beat recently. Check them out!
To all other cycle companies out there watching and reading: MAKE WALKABLE ROAD CYCLING SHOES!
I’m pretty sure that I’m out of tune with the marketing scheme of the whole gravel rabbit hole of accessories but, I like using toe cages. They give me the up stroke power and I can wear any shoe that I can cram into the cage, like my 5 10 MTB shoes, my top siders, my hiking shoes. Crocs are tough to ram into the cages. The best thing about riding my bike in gravel is that I can call myself a gravel rider now, adding to my title of MTBer, and general around cyclist.
I have always used SPD pedals and MTB shoes with my road bike and other bikes, I like to be able to walk around without looking like a penguin.
Me too. Works great.
Cheers
im just using my old mtb pedals which are combi pedals. one side for clipping in and the other side without. this gives me 2 advantages. one i can use the flat side if the terrain is very sketchy and i dont want to be clipped in and two i can use normal shoes when i go for a slow and easy ride with my little kids. seems to be the best of two worlds to me.
The ideal gravel shoe before gravel specific shoes came out were cross country shoes which have always just been road shoes with SPD mounts. Really, that's it. However, the new gravel shoes are worth moving over from MTB/XC shoes because they are burlier than road shoes (win) and not as bulky as MTB/XC specific shoes. MTB specific shoes aren't made for long miles on the road (even a gravel road) and they get uncomfortable quick.
Gravel specific shoes really do deserve their own place especially if you're into bikepacking where you'll be walking around on ground a lot once you reach your destination. I got a pair of "Sidi MTB Gravel" shoes which are basically road shoes on steroids and nothing like their MTB shoes. Awesome for the task and at a great price too and they mate up perfectly to my XT pedals.
I use the half MTB half flat panel ones ... So I can use regular shoes for a quick ride to the store
Same 👌🏻
Are they the Shimano PD-EH500 SPD Pedals? Thinking on grabbing these for my gravel bike which will also be a commute bike to school (so I can use the flat side with my casual school sneakers). Are they too heavy? Or do they flip around when you take your feet off because then sides are weighted differently? Do they still perform well as a clip less pedal?
@@RyanMalley did you find a set of pedals that work for you? I’m looking for the same
What pedals are you using? Hoping to find something similar for my commutes!
I've recently switched from spd (Shimano xt) to spd sl (time xspresso) clips. I mainly ride Gravel in the Netherlands where you don't have really nasty trails with a lot of clipping in and out or even walking. Therefore I prefer the road pedals over mtb pedals because the don't have that much play and a wider / stiffer platform... When riding on really nasty trails or bad weather conditions with a lot of mud and slippery sections I switch them over to mtb pedals. It just depends on how much 'footwork' there is on your ride what's the best pedal to use...
This was a terrific video and really
Helped me figure out what to get for my new gravel bike. Thank you for posting!
Why not skip the clipless pedals and just use MTB platform pedals? Would this not be a lot cheaper and easier?
This is the way
Thats what I did, no complaints
I used SIDI MTB shoes with LOOK PP286 ARC on my Colnago. That way when you got off you could stand properly flat to the ground instead of balancing on the cleats on road shoes. This was in 96ish
I used road pedals and shoes once on a gravel ride because I didn’t want clunky heavy feel of 2 bolt mtb shoe -I wanted light stiff and fast like on road bike. the first time I stepped off in anything but pavement I had issues clipping back in, walking in gravel in 3 bolt is a nightmare, even a single blade of grass kept me from clipping in. I Discovered the rx8 shoe, they feel like my road sphyres but in a 2 bolt and much cheaper. My problems were solved. My opinion is yes, “gravel” shoe makes sense, not as clunky as mtb shoe, but more useable off-road than a road shoe.....kinda like a gravel bike itself.
So for the last three years of Gravel/CX biking I just transferred my old mountain bike XT pedals over to my CX bike. The only thing that I have noticed is after about 3 hours my feet start to get hot points on them. I probably need to stop more and stretch. I have thought of just putting road pedals on but when you're walking in gravel, mud, sand those road shoes are not very good and those conditions.
Old Shimano M747 SPDs for me. With new Shimano ME7 shoes.
Comfy. Easy to walk in. And a breeze to clip in and out.
As a recreational rider I also only use SPD MTB Cleats/Shoes (not SPD-SL) on Road Bikes. Just for the Walking :-)
And it is nice to see more Gravel Shoes, that are lighter and closer in design to Road Shoes, but with SPD cleats and a stiff sole that works great on road bikes.
SPD-SL/Look.... etc. are good if you do racing, and on a raodbile they can give you an advantage, but that is not for me riding for fun. My favorites are Fizik Overcurve X3, Shimano RX800 and some MTB Versions from Gaerne (so comfy).
Very informative.Thank you. This fitness-triathlon journey I'm on is getting expensive. Time to narrow my goals down. Another item on the bucket list.
You don't need anything of this. Don't get fooled by these youtubers. They need to keep endorsing products, so they can make some money. As if road cycling, swimming and running wasn't enough, now he want to introduce gravel riding. Give me a break!
@@lgmsampaio Seriously, dude? If you've never ridden a gravel bike or a MTB along a trail, that's your loss. I feel sorry for you because it is truly an amazing experience. Please don't inflict your ignorance on others. Life is too short to listen to idiots like you.
I bought a pair of nice flat pedals and tried on my gravel bike… maybe psychological but I was really scared pedalling, specially on descents… and now back on my clip-less road pedals … however I am now toiling with the idea of MTB pedals because walking in a road shoe is really really annoying.
XTs are nice, but shimano SPD is a really solid pedal/cleat, way more than spd-sl, it has kinda peaked technology wise, even the 20 dollar versions are good and will probably last you a lifetime. only real differences are weight.
Hi Taren,
Thx for your video and channel. It’s very inspiring and motivating.
Taren, I keep following your advice to run on zone 2. It’s now my third week and what i see it’s a decrease in my VO2 max... 1 point per week... is that ok and normal?
Thanks again and keep up with your great job!
Can’t believe I actually just watched this, someone who doesn’t really know what they’re talking about giving advice to others. I guess that’s the way to make money on TH-cam
That doesn't sound like the general consensus from all the other comments here. Maybe lighten up, bud and have more of an open mind.
To throw it out there, I use flat MTB pedals when gravel riding. Literally 10 studies showing no difference in performance and I prefer it so go with it.
Yup, look up Peddling Innovations pedals.
U reeled me in with biking money pit. Healthier and cheaper than sports cars but the rabbit hole can go deep
Thanks - great overview.
I really like the Speedplays because the shoe has a little left-right “play” or movement when clipped in. My knees are much happier with this.
Do any of these gravel pedals have a similar amount of movement? Or are they all locked in solid?
You can decide how stiff the pedals are, but they do have some movement definitely more than the SPD-SL
Time Atac allow the front of your shoe to float, I’ve just swapped to them from SPD and my knees are much happier, whether I’ll be able to clip in and out as easy during a cross race I’ve still to find out
Hello Taren, I am have bought my first Gravel bike, i plan to use it 80% road and 20% gravel, however idk what pedals would be best for me, specially because I want to be able to walk whenever I disengage my feet from the pedal, not sure if buying mtb pedals and gravel shoes would be better for me instead of road shoes and pedals. If I buy Gravel shoes and mtb pedals, would I have any issues during while I do road journeys (+100km)? Or would be better to buy two separated shoes and pedals for gravel and road?
Thanks in advance!
Excellent Instructional video. TY.
How do you like your Canyon Grail SL CF 8? I’m deciding between that and a Bianchi Impulso Allroad. Wanting something that can really be enjoyable both on gravel and long pavement rides. The Impulso seems know n for that versatility but the grail seems to maybe favor gravel and not as road friendly...thoughts?
Good video dude !!! What is your gravel brand shoes ? Thanks
Very cool. Where the sunglasses from?
Have you ever considered doing a gravel event? The registration for The Midsouth was yesterday
Hey Taren, what's the difference between the gravel and mountain bike shoe?
An XC race mtb shoe will basically be the same as a gravel shoe, both will have a stiff sole that’s carbon or another composite, and are designed for efficiency as well as being able to walk in them. You want to stay away from more trail or DH oriented shoes, because those are floppy and designed solely for comfort, they have a similar sole to a skateboarding shoe. I run the Fizik Terra X5 shoes, they’re not too expensive if you find them on sale and they’re stiff enough for good power transfer.
Never done a cyclo-cross race Mr T maybe you should try one? Improve bike handling :-)
This is all MTN Biking gear right?
very nice handle bar :-)
by the way the platform on road are better, some gotta make similar for out of bounds,
and or the cleats from shimano cant stand much
Hi there, What’s the model of your bike?
What are those green shoes?
Great video. On another topic: I'm looking to buy a budget Canyon and upgrade to that seatpost you have in the video. Can anyone comment on whether or not the carbon seatposts are worth it for ride comfort? Thanks so much!
what 360 camera was used to record your ride?
I hope the answer is Crankbrothers Egg Beaters. Watching. . .
What shoes are you using in this video?
Forgive me Taren but you covered something that most gravel cyclist already knew for ages.
I have a mountain bike but I need something for transportation and I'm talking a couple miles if you know what I mean, I run crankbrothers on my mtb and I'll just use some eggbeaters, a xc pedal and use my shoes any experts have advice on that setup
Very informative! Nice to see I'm not the only one who spends too much everytime I go to Alter Ego. You gotta get rid of the half peeled sticker on the crank arm before your next video though 😉
Xtr pedals all the way
Hey! That's Winnipeg! A random google search sent me directly useful information :)
I like the GRAVEL BIKE shoe you have. Which brand or model is that? Thanks
Pearl Izumi, Gravel X
Hi, which bottle cage is it?
I shouldn’t let his pronunciation of Shimano irritate me so much but it does. Don’t even want to hear him say panniers lol (sorry man not be a hater, was a good video and I learned stuff)
Taren- what shoes are those? Don’t see them identified or linked.
Pearl Izumi Gravel X
What r the gravel shoes shown in video
6:16 those are candies though
Whats the Name of the Shoes?!
what Tires are those
flats for the win :D
There are excellent Crankbrothers Spd with platform! Use them on my endura/trail mtb bike
Spd stands for Shimano pedaling dynamic
Amen to Cranky Brother pedals. I have egg beaters on my road bike.
to me this is practically normals
I have multiple bikes and i share 1 pair of pedals to all of them
Tbh i thought mtb clipless only exists and i thought that was the norm
I was wrong.
Not a gravEl rider. But I agree with you.
How about a sub zero shoe (c) /boot Gravel/Fat bike options?
So basically a XC shoe and XC pedal
Gravel bike shoes are just a glorified (i.e., rebranded) touring bike shoe with a mountain bike pedal.
Most touring riders who clip in use the spd style pedals and MTB shoes so that they walk in the them.
MKS Urban pedals and Zefal nylon quarter clips, pair 5 10 shoes. Vastly more flexible. You can walk normally. Wear running shoes. Clipless is just another way to gouge cyclists with marketing hype.
I thought they were giving free bicycles!😅
2:49 i have to GO 😀!
XTR is the way to go LOL
It's shimano, as in mano-a-mano. Not man.
Or MTB
speedplays are absolutely 2-sided.
Just watching but I don't have a bike
RIP on xt peds..
Great video but.... she-man-o d-or-a....my eardrums are bleeding
¡Cuán avergonzados nos sentimos los mexicanos ante la comunidad latinoamericana por culpa de Andrés Manuel López! Obrador
spd is more stable? what lol
Where’s that accent from?
Canyon ,,🤮
He really doesn't know how to pronounce "ShimAHno" OR Deor(E)?
Aren’t gravel shoes just Mtb clipless shoes… I mean that’s why I bought mine for 😆