As you pointed out I think at least reading through Jay Moseley's sysgen process gives you a deeper understanding what MVS is about and how you do things with it. Unlike Jay Moseley's configuration the MVS/CE has RAKF activated. I'm still new to the game, started with a TK5, ran through the hassle of following Jay Moseley and installed MVS/CE. Still trying to figure out what way to follow and what to do with it apart from being happy about the fact that I have an IBM Mainframe running on a Fujitsu Futro ;)
As I was in university - around 2005 - I had a course on OS/390 and z/OS where we played with TSO, CICS and other things on an actual mainframe... This brings back some memories..
I'm just begining my first steps in COBOL, I have MVS/CE and TK5 running, but due to my limited time to learn, which one is more similar to z/OS? (since I can't practice on a real mainframe and I need to be ready soon to apply to a job) I know they are both based on the same version, but JCLs are slightly different, the location of libraries,etc. Thank you!
are these comments moderated? asking because i've tried to post comments here 3-4 times and after i post them they disappear. i took screenshot the last time so i know they were there.
I experimented by posting the comment line by line saving and editing after each line. I got the whole post in and it seemed to have stuck. and then I noticed it was missing the name of the script. I added that, ending in '.sh' and the comment disappeared. I made a new commented without the '.sh' and it is still there. :)
I was thinking about switching to this. This settles it. I'll make sure I understand how to put my stuff on dasd I can copy from release to release and switch.
can you give the Hercules command to use the new cnf file please? At the point you ran Hercules it went off the bottom of the screen and I could not see what was typed to make it run. usually Hercules -f etc
Hi Sir. @22:52 you mention attaching all your stuff such as jobs, source on additional dasd. Can you give a link to the video where you explain how to do this?
I wonder if I'm missing a step. I've tried this again on a new machine and get similar results. Here's what I'm doing. 1 Download and untar the tarball . 3 Install hercules via the hercules-helper script. 4. cd to the MVSCE directory. 5 run start_mvs script from the MVSCE tarball. 6. Connect x3270 to the running mvs. 7 Hit enter. This is where it hangs and doesn't let me log in.
@jasonsdodd if you run the start up script it uses the Hercules that comes with TK4. Instead execute Hercules from its installed location by hercules-helper. Most likely /usr/local/bin
It's a beautiful thing to see this come together! Round of applause for all the people who had a hand in this!
True
As you pointed out I think at least reading through Jay Moseley's sysgen process gives you a deeper understanding what MVS is about and how you do things with it. Unlike Jay Moseley's configuration the MVS/CE has RAKF activated.
I'm still new to the game, started with a TK5, ran through the hassle of following Jay Moseley and installed MVS/CE. Still trying to figure out what way to follow and what to do with it apart from being happy about the fact that I have an IBM Mainframe running on a Fujitsu Futro ;)
MVS is a lot like Linux: it’s an environment meant to develop code and it makes it natural and fun to do so.
As I was in university - around 2005 - I had a course on OS/390 and z/OS where we played with TSO, CICS and other things on an actual mainframe...
This brings back some memories..
@frankniethardt1813 it’s only 20 years ago. Sounds like yesterday you me
This distribution is essentially for Linux. It will run on Windows or macOS, but MVP will not work out of box.
I'm just begining my first steps in COBOL, I have MVS/CE and TK5 running, but due to my limited time to learn, which one is more similar to z/OS? (since I can't practice on a real mainframe and I need to be ready soon to apply to a job) I know they are both based on the same version, but JCLs are slightly different, the location of libraries,etc. Thank you!
They are the same. Go with MVS/CE
are these comments moderated? asking because i've tried to post comments here 3-4 times and after i post them they disappear. i took screenshot the last time so i know they were there.
TH-cam comments are broken. They sometimes re-appear after six months or a year. It’s a crappy platform
I experimented by posting the comment line by line saving and editing after each line. I got the whole post in and it seemed to have stuck. and then I noticed it was missing the name of the script. I added that, ending in '.sh' and the comment disappeared. I made a new commented without the '.sh' and it is still there. :)
I was thinking about switching to this. This settles it. I'll make sure I understand how to put my stuff on dasd I can copy from release to release and switch.
Makes sense
can you give the Hercules command to use the new cnf file please? At the point you ran Hercules it went off the bottom of the screen and I could not see what was typed to make it run.
usually Hercules -f etc
Hercules -f and then the name of the config file
thanks for the quick response!
Hi Sir. @22:52 you mention attaching all your stuff such as jobs, source on additional dasd. Can you give a link to the video where you explain how to do this?
Adding a disk device to your MVS or z/OS system - M14
th-cam.com/video/UXCaXF0n0F4/w-d-xo.html
I wonder if I'm missing a step. I've tried this again on a new machine and get similar results. Here's what I'm doing.
1 Download and untar the tarball .
3 Install hercules via the hercules-helper script.
4. cd to the MVSCE directory.
5 run start_mvs script from the MVSCE tarball.
6. Connect x3270 to the running mvs.
7 Hit enter. This is where it hangs and doesn't let me log in.
Thiese steps don’t actually use the Hercules you built with Hercules helper
@@moshixmainframechannel Oh? What is it using? I ran the helper because when I didn't I got an error that hercules was not found.
@jasonsdodd if you run the start up script it uses the Hercules that comes with TK4. Instead execute Hercules from its installed location by hercules-helper. Most likely /usr/local/bin
Does the terminal support unicode?
Which terminal ?
@@moshixmainframechannel 3270, if it does not support it, can i use any terminal for hercules that can support unicode?
3270 only does EBCDIC subset. For Unicode on Hercules, simply run z/OS and ssh into that. Or run Linux on Hercules
Looks like =0.3 is broken in this build. I've reported it.
Yes. Likely