I think we try and over complicate it when we self teach. Coaching helps people so they can find the things they need. We all wanna do better. But finding the right thing is hard. There is so much content now that its so hard to find what works.
I agree with this down to my heartstrings. Even since I started I've become much more focused on "holistic" learning that helps make progress even if sometimes you need to drill down on details. One of my deeper observations (or sometimes fears) is that almost anything someone has said in disc golf works in a certain context (which is kinda the not so subtle theme of my video here). The problem like you're saying is where to start and where to go to achieve your goals. Not every coach-student-content combination is going to work. And even if you have a coach, many people are still going to need to put in a lot of work on their own to "self coach." And right now we have little cases I'm aware of that result in "bad blood" and strong disagreements among coaches. I think we'll have progress, but it's a long road ahead.
Great video! I have also always struggled with balance in the transition. I felt like it was holding me back so it is all I have been working on lately. I also felt the slight tilt away help maintain balance.
I think every player I've ever seen who isn't already Simon Lizotte has something to learn about it. I've gotten much more interested in fundamental balance when I realized I could suddenly guess and "see" it function in players. I'm not always right, but it changed everything about how I perceive form. See if you can take that balanced tilt forward aggressively. Your posture might end up different than your neighbor's - get that body moving with momentum and you're halfway (ish) there!
@AceItDiscGolf yes I have thought the same about Simon. How about Drew Gibson? I always thought he had really great balance in transition as well and his is one I actively try to mimick
@@Winton-fam I think in a way, the main difference between Simon and Drew is that Simon just started younger at around 2 years old. That lays down deeper and more permanent motor learning. Maybe that's why Simon and his incredible balance has always reminded me of a dancer more than anyone else, not sure. I think Drew went through a lot of revisions in his form, some of which I mentioned in my Evolution video. Drew's move over the rear side is top tier. The only thing I caution people about is that his bracing sometimes results in a bit of a knee snap which we know in other contexts is probably rough on the joint. But I personally have no problem using him as a top tier form reference and still study his balancing act a lot. Actually I remember something that Drew said that I take to heart at my current stage: "I'm trying to get off of my rear foot as fast as I can." There's something very important to learn there (as long as you are in balance!). I simply cannot balance as well as Simon and I never will even though I was a dancer for a while. But what Drew is saying is an excellent idea to keep in mind. My own coach and I were talking about my damaged rear leg and gait issue. We both seemed to think that my move could work kind of like young Gibson before he cleaned a lot up, but I'll probably never get to the "elite" motion due to my physical limits and later-in-life learning.
I think we try and over complicate it when we self teach.
Coaching helps people so they can find the things they need.
We all wanna do better. But finding the right thing is hard.
There is so much content now that its so hard to find what works.
I agree with this down to my heartstrings. Even since I started I've become much more focused on "holistic" learning that helps make progress even if sometimes you need to drill down on details.
One of my deeper observations (or sometimes fears) is that almost anything someone has said in disc golf works in a certain context (which is kinda the not so subtle theme of my video here). The problem like you're saying is where to start and where to go to achieve your goals. Not every coach-student-content combination is going to work. And even if you have a coach, many people are still going to need to put in a lot of work on their own to "self coach."
And right now we have little cases I'm aware of that result in "bad blood" and strong disagreements among coaches. I think we'll have progress, but it's a long road ahead.
Great video! I have also always struggled with balance in the transition. I felt like it was holding me back so it is all I have been working on lately. I also felt the slight tilt away help maintain balance.
I think every player I've ever seen who isn't already Simon Lizotte has something to learn about it.
I've gotten much more interested in fundamental balance when I realized I could suddenly guess and "see" it function in players. I'm not always right, but it changed everything about how I perceive form.
See if you can take that balanced tilt forward aggressively. Your posture might end up different than your neighbor's - get that body moving with momentum and you're halfway (ish) there!
@AceItDiscGolf yes I have thought the same about Simon. How about Drew Gibson? I always thought he had really great balance in transition as well and his is one I actively try to mimick
@@Winton-fam I think in a way, the main difference between Simon and Drew is that Simon just started younger at around 2 years old. That lays down deeper and more permanent motor learning. Maybe that's why Simon and his incredible balance has always reminded me of a dancer more than anyone else, not sure.
I think Drew went through a lot of revisions in his form, some of which I mentioned in my Evolution video. Drew's move over the rear side is top tier. The only thing I caution people about is that his bracing sometimes results in a bit of a knee snap which we know in other contexts is probably rough on the joint. But I personally have no problem using him as a top tier form reference and still study his balancing act a lot.
Actually I remember something that Drew said that I take to heart at my current stage: "I'm trying to get off of my rear foot as fast as I can." There's something very important to learn there (as long as you are in balance!). I simply cannot balance as well as Simon and I never will even though I was a dancer for a while. But what Drew is saying is an excellent idea to keep in mind. My own coach and I were talking about my damaged rear leg and gait issue. We both seemed to think that my move could work kind of like young Gibson before he cleaned a lot up, but I'll probably never get to the "elite" motion due to my physical limits and later-in-life learning.
Sir i have form now for 3 years still not 300ft