Hi Coach, I’m Stewart the guy with the skinny legs 🙂 I’ve kept on with the squats and dead lifts, and I stretch and work on my kicks everyday, my strength level has noticeably increased and my kicks like the round house are starting to have power behind it. I don’t look down at my legs anymore, instead I work on their performance. Many many thanks for the great advice and taking the time for it 👍🙏
This is kind of a controversial topic when it comes to fighting. Yeah proper technique alone can help with punching power but at the end of the day proper technique PLUS a lot of strength will take your punching power to a different level. Mike Tyson had great technique but that alone wasn't what caused him to be able to knock bigger fighters around the ring like it was nothing. U can just look at Mike's fight...especially in his prime...and see that lifting weights was an important part of his training. That big thick lumpy back and those big arms don't come from traditional boxing training.
Tyson was a genetic freak Wakanda experiment specimen on Steroids. His face doesnt even look human. He looka like a predator who eats his fallen enemies. The man is the black panther on the juice. He is the kind of guy who can never lift weights and walk in the gym brnch 405 and do 30 pullups. We all need to train 10+ years to be like that.
@@danjacksonguitar3701 ....He did. I saw a video of him on the leg press machine. Calisthenics may have been his choice of resistance training but even with that it builds strength. I think ppl missed my whole point. Technique alone will increase punching power but proper technique plus a lot of strength takes your punching power to a different level. That's why they have weights devisions. These little feather and bantom weight fighters can have better technique than a heavyweight but the heavyweight will more than likely still hit harder because they have a lot more strength along with their technique.
I think this is another reason as to why wrestlers are generally more successful in MMA. Weight lifting is an integral part of the wrestling training regime as well as it's emphasis on athletic performance to supplement the techniques. Wrestlers are already considered some of the most elite athletes out there, so the transition to MMA with a solid athletic foundation helps training to be more productive.
Ramsey I'd like to point out that Stipe miocic, the heavyweight g.o.a.t. trains under westside, which is a heavily powerlifting based strength and conditioning program
I always thought, "if I move heavy weight slow, it won't help punching faster, but it may help to punch harder. If I move light weight quickly it won't help me hit harder, but it may help me move quicker. So mix it up, mostly quick moves with light weight, and occasionally go slow-ish with heavier weight.
@Storm photography I think it trains the inner muscles. It could also be training balance, arm, shoulder, strength, grip strength etc. I'm not a biologist so everything I said might be wrong.
I love your videos. They've really helped me. I used to be Anorexic. Had the worst back pain that would never stop... all my life. Now I've started working out, And the pain is practically gone. It's like a miracle. Posture is better, moving and working is alot easier too.. Strength is important for everyone. Not just for showing off muscles.
That's because a lot of them are smaller mainly in the heavyweight division. Smaller men find it naturally easier to move around. The 6ft7 ect. Heavyweights today have their own strengths
Very true. When george hackenschmith switched from weigjt lifting for years to wrestling he mentioned that he could beat almost any technical wrestler. Later with some wrestling specific training he because a world champion
Ramsey have you heard about shin kicking and chessboxing ? Good thing I did a year of weight lifting , now I have a good advantage over other martial artists.
Knuckle push ups..till your arms turning to jello..if you do not have access to weights/stuck in home/isolation...also rotate fist position for variation..
Force = Mass x Acceleration. By adding muscle you're adding a type of mass that doesn't reduce your acceleration. Practice punching and get jacked and you'll likely hit with more force.
being stronger will make you punch a little bit harder. But punchers are born not made. I don't care how many weights you lift you will never punch like Wilder, Tyson or Foreman unless you were born with that rare gift. Just like how you can't learn to throw a 100 mph fastball no matter how hard you try.
even in esports, whatever opinion people might have of it, the top players in the world are often in really good shape because even your concentration and endurance for sitting improves as you get fitter. not to mention reaction times etc. life is better if you are fitter/buffer, thats for sure!
Ramsey I must say that I never lift weights but do typical bodyweight training and focus on my boxing technique. As a result I punch way above my weight. In fact just practicing hitting harder and harder on the heavy bag has done a lot for me.
The bench press is both underrated and overrated exercise. Bros and powerlifters are obsessed with it. The uneducated think its unfunctional. Increasing your overall pressing power, the strength in your triceps, shoulders and chest carries over so well in combat sports. When I took time off boxing and went back to lifting weights, my bench went up by 20kg and it made all the difference to my crosses and hooks.
Yes and no. While it will increase the strength of your shoulders and your stability, it will allow you to lift less weight, and benching your OHP anyway. I say this as a guy who can strict press 100kg after months of not training it. Maybe it will strengthen the snap, but thats about it really.
@Storm photography you're missing the forest for the trees. Being a fixed exercises is why its more functional in terms of strength and power. Since you're in a stronger position leverage wise, you can lift more weight. Exercises that allow you to lift more weight will get you stronger. If you're looking to work stability your scapula and shoulder health, go for the OHP. I'm a big advocate for the OHP, but it's not the better "strength training" exercise unless you have weak shoulders. What you're arguing is akin to saying the front squat is superior to the low bar back squat.
Speaking of size and strength. I'm a big guy, and in high school I was quite a bit more fit. I took a few months of Judo. I was a white belt and had only been taught a few of the beginning moves (and how to fall without breaking yourself). They constantly talked about Judo being a martial art where it doesn't matter how big or strong you are. There was a very scrawny guy who was a blackbelt and one of the sensei's, and almost every time I'd go against him I'd win because although I didn't have much technique, I could muscle through whatever he was trying to do. So even in sports where "Strength is not important", it sure gives you a huge advantage.
That physical foundation you mention is perfectly brought up in All Rounder Meguru. Once he (Meguru) starts training with Wanatabe (a very athletic and strong wrestler) in a special regimen, prior to his fights, "his characteristic" are able to come to life... In his case, his creativity and ability to flow through differents techniques, to improvise when fighting. Ever since I read those chapters, I've been thinking a lot about how even some technical aspects, not directly related to strenght, won't appear unless you've developed enough strenght in your muscles to move the best way you can, or more precisely, to move even more authentic to your real hidden talents.
Eyy another reader. The manga is awesome, but I haven't caught up to it yet. From a martial artist, how close would you consider it close to real life? I know it's a manga but it seems close... I don't do martial arts but I'm going to start soon (hopefully), so I wanted to hear someone's take.
@@YaboiTombuto It's pretty legit. Coach Ramsey already did a video on All Rounder Meguru analyzing the techniques showed in it. Personally I think it is pretty real and well-detailed. Even tho I'm a fan of grappling, I have minimum experience on it, so I just can't extend that much my argument on how well executed those techniques are, and with the striking, I see less details on that part. I think there are a lot of concepts that could ben included in the manga to show aboute strikes in general, and the fighters are often inconsistent in that regard (main issue on it being the fact that Maki is an excellent fighter but seems to doesnt know much about boxing)... But overall it has become one of my favoutite mangas, I really love the characters, their development so far, and most of the techniques most of the time
Most of my workouts are compound based. mostly body weight; pull ups, push ups, abs and burpees. I also add up a lots of twist/fast twitch exercises along the way. However, twice a week, I lift extremely heavy. One day I do lower body and the other, I do upper body. I am so much stronger and powerful without gaining any additional body mass. Lifting and athletic training definitely has its place in fighting arts!
the strong guy failed in turkish get up, because its high skill exercise like snatch or clean and jerk which means there are strong people that cant snatch a lot, but nobody good at those is by any means weak look for example Clerance Kennedy 230kg clean and jerk around 190kg snatch (if i remember correctly) and still deadlifts around 350kg, but there is no guy that can S and CJ that has weak squat or deadlift strength means production of force againts external resistance nothing more nothing less, there are no "different types of strength" btw dont know how people came up with this sht, my guess is the scammers that came up with "functional training"
I believe you should not only train with calesthincs, but also weight lifting and combat training. It's the most important thing to do everything you can, asking the question what's better this or this, is wrong, instead do both. Punching makes you better at punching, lifting makes you better at lifting, and they can help both of each other.
I think the main problem is one believing that strength can substitute for technique; such as a weight lifter or bodybuilder out boxing a boxer or defeating an MMA fighter,; as that is generally not even close to reality. My father was a boxer and was against my brother and I lifting weights. He believed that it was a waste of time and actually was deleterious to punching power and fight endurance. My brother and I persisted and he eventually came to the conclusion that lifting weights, if done with fighting in mind, was simply an enhancement of the exercises that we already did: push ups, pull ups, sit ups, hypertension’s, etc.
Punchers are made. By punching. Lifting weights only if they are light. For me is about how fast you can move the weight. Not how much is the weight. Your fist will not become more heavier, its speed has to be increased. All boxers, wrestlers and MMA fighters was coming to me to play beach volleyball. While indoor and even beach volleyball pro players ws forbidden from their trainers/coaches to play to not injure. I am training with 1 kg small pillates ball. All kinds of excercises. Even punch myself with the ball to simulate hits on me. Rope jumps in the sand, gymnastics. But playing beach volleyball is so much fun and you become a lot more flexible.
I was a power lifter and bodybuilder before boxing. When I started boxing I found that it gave me considerable power on the heavy bag. I found that my hand speed increased rapidly. My stamina was and is quite good. During sparring at first I wasn't very good but that was because of inexperience, not strength training. I believe that established martial artists who do not strength train feel threatened by those who do. And that is why they discourage it. I will continue to do both. You can be both strong and a proficient martial artist. No question about it. I feel finally vindicated after all these years!
A wide back is usually a sign for great punching power, but not always. There's people like David Tua, Igor Vovchanchyn, Mark Hunt, Mike Tyson, all having wide backs, but there are also boxers like Julian "The Hawk" Jackson, who looks skinny.
Proper form and timing works wonders for gaining power. When you look at most of the so called "naturals" in sports (i.e. punchers, home run hitters, golf's long ball hitters), they usually possess a natural kinesthetic intelligence with regard to form that gives them their natural power. Knowing how to get the most from movement is a key facet to power improvement. Thanks for the vid coach!
You know, one thing I notice Ramsey is that some of the heaviest punchers Ernie shavers, George foreman they were farmers(so basically resistance training on a day to day basis). Hell even Marvin Hagler(rest his soul.) did construction during the day and trained at night! Which is pretty much if not almost the same! He was basically training all the time or made his life training which probably gave the edge and if not extra knock out power! I mean deontay wilders another example of this he was a truck driver and did do football until he had has daughter, however being a truck driver you have to lift and move packages another example of resistance training/lifting!
A big part of it is the mass of the arm plus whatever weight from your body is behind the punch. Some of the best boxers and punchers had big arm and hand bones as well as a lot of speed. It's hard to reduce punching down to a formula (like kinetic energy) because I think there is some pushing action when you make contact that ensures maximum energy transmission. Do you feel like you contract your muscles when you make contact with a punch? My physics knowledge and my martial arts knowledge are not quite enough for me to claim I'm sure this is how it works.
Yeah punching is mostly a pressing motion that means chest, triceps and shoulders. But the real power comes from rotating your whole body and pushing the leg into the ground. Also a lot of times if you train antagonistic movements the number of your main movement go also up.
@@krane15 I tend to see a punch as more like a collision in physics, like how energy is transferred between billiard balls very quickly, but this can get complicated. I don't understand enough physics to completely describe what is going on with a punch.
I think every figjter should at least build a base in lifting. Run a novice training for 12/18 months, and milk out your lineair progression. If you could do something like this you will be very strong and going over that point might not be good for a fighter because you wil have to train more specific for strenght: Deadlift 180kg x5 Squat 140kg x5 Benchpress 100kg x5 Overhead press 70kg x5 Push press 80kg x5 Power clean 100kg x5 Front squat 100kg x5 Pendlay row 110kg x5 Weighted pull ups 40kg x5
I started lifting weights, actually using weight machines march last year. I could only bench a pathetic 50 lbs 3 reps of 15 at first. In two months, that was up to 100lbs using three reps of 20. It doesn't take long to gain strength. It takes work to keep it though.
I got in a street fight when I was 16 and it messed my shoulder up for a long time. I started lifting weights at age 38 my body is so much more sturdy and my shoulder I had issues with is not an issue any more.
Is there such a thing as "strong enough" or even "too strong"? When I practised kenpo, my sensei was adamant in developing muscle mass, but not to become a sasquatch.
@@JP-hr3xq Sure, punching is about power, not raw strength, so training just for mass will not be a great idea. However, raw strength is excellent when grappling, so...50/50? I believe pretty much anyone who has some basic training could knock out pretty much anyone else with a well-placed punch/kick, provided you can land that punch/kick, as you said. BTW, I never really liked taekwondo. It's flashy cool and all, but you learn to hatre it if you watch taekwondo fights in the olympic games.
Think about this. I weighed 135 in the army and I could put a 200+ pound guy on my shoulders and do squats. I weigh about 215 now and haven't done a lot of training but I do move 300 pounds of salt and most objects that tend to big/heavy with ease on a daily basis. I'm not as fit as I was in the army but I know how to use that strength to do the job that I need to do. This is pretty much what Ramsey is explaining when he says "Strong doesn't mean big". Strong is knowing how to use your strength efficiently and effectively. Ramsey understands that as a fighter, you have to be strong, fast, flexible and adaptable. Strength, speed and flexibility come from training the body. Adaptability comes from training the mind. Peak in those qualities and you should be able to dominate any sport.
Hey brothers just adding my personal experience with bodybuilding transition to to MMA. The hardest part was not the speed, it was the flexibility. I had good explosive strength but it wasn't sustainable. It's not due to the lack of cardio but just a different type of endurance. My body wasn't used to running efficiently on low gas. It took me about 6 months to stop feeling like a bodybuilder and more like an athlete but in my humble opinion, I put in my work. BJJ came a lot more natural because of the physical strength advantage I have (yes, I know lol) . I've been training for about 2 years now and I look more like a fighter than a bodybuilder. I still strength train and surprisingly have not lost too much muscle. Hoping for my first amateur bout this year before the pandemic. It took me about 2 years to carry over what I had learned in weight lifting to fighting. I feel in tune with my body at all times and perhaps that is the best part of this journey of mine. Good luck and train hard #RamseyCrew
Definitely agree that pylo exercises, squats, cleans and deadlifts help the most. I got almost zero combat gains from benchpressing, pressing or pushups despite huge gains. In fact they were mostly stamina gains. Balance gains is by far the most important strength trainingway to increase punching and kicking power, which is why squats work so well. Still it’s only like 10%, most gains come from simply punching the heavy bag over and over
Good punches are born and then made. Everyone has a natural ability to punch then the training gives you that extra boost. So i say its both hardwork and genetics. Anyone can train to be a better puncher than they already are, however there is a ceiling on how hard a puncher can punch. For example a 150 lb guy cant punch as hard as a 250 guy they can both improve but if they both put everything into their punch with all the training simple physics 250 lb hits way harder . So yes the training and weights definitetly help. But genetics play a big role like 60-70% then the hardwork training accounts for the rest. So hard punchers are born and made together . Its a combination of hardwork and genetics.
When Ramsey said, "if you look at the wimpiest sports in the world, whatever that is, and look at the professional version of that, the athletes are doing squats and deadlifts and sprints..." I immediately thought of Tiger Woods. Golfers are hitting little, tiny balls that weigh less than 2 ounces, with clubs that weigh less than one pound. You'd think, and for decades the experts did think, that strength played little to zero role in a golfer's ability. Then came Tiger Woods. In one interview, when asked about his training routine, he said, "“Well, I used to get up in the morning, run four miles,” Woods said. “Then I’d go to the gym, do my lift. Then I’d hit balls for two to three hours. I’d go play, come back, work on my short game. I’d go run another four more miles, and then if anyone wanted to play basketball or tennis, I would go play basketball or tennis." And, "according to a story in the Fort Worth Telegram, Tiger was seen recently bench pressing 315 pounds at a fitness center in Fort Worth, Texas. Tiger was taking part in a Nike photo shoot on how some golf athletes train. Tiger weighs around 185 lbs. so he is benching close to double his body weight. He is really strong for his size. The workout Tiger did would resemble what an NFL safety would do,” said fitness center owner Larry North. “His strength is mind-boggling for a guy his size. He is very fit and very, very strong. He’s in great shape”.
I think much better than doing weights is to get a job involving heavy lifting - as then your strength will develop more naturally and also more practically. Because one thing I hated about lifting weights from a young age - example, curls: if you do something to assist the lifting motion (such as putting entire body weight underneath it); then you get told you're cheating and "Use the arm, only" ! And later on, this type of conditioning will begin to affect the body's motor mechanics and also reflexes - where there is zero time to think, only split-second response based on conditioning [prior training drills, etc]. Contrast doing weights with something like working in architectural metal-work - constant heavy lifting involved: however there, it is being done in a PRACTICAL way (with efficiency of motion & energy preservation in mind).
Wow man I discovered your channel one week ago and in this quarantine I watched alot from your videos because I am planning to start learning judo. You are so good at explaining and telling advice and most importantly I can't help but listen to you cause you are speaking in very professional and nice way. Best regards ✌🏼💚 fan from Germany
I definitely agree with weight training. I don't agree that punchers are not born though. Plenty of people are born naturally powerful punchers. Strength training just augments that.
The wimpiest sport is neddle crotchet...my great grandmother -was an up and commer ..and yup!---she did 300 pushups ,200 pull ups ,420 lbs. Bench press , 40min. Sprints ,each morning ...😂 ..i told her crocheting was a "wimpy sport "..next thing i remember I woke up, 3 days later, in the hospital room ...😒 I guess she couldnt take a joke .
The best way to become better at anything is to do that thing and supplementary work that more or less mimic said thing or work on a specific part of that thing. Simple as
I do weighted Dips and pull ups after 3 sets of 8-10 reps. And the 5x5 for bench presses, deadlifts and squats. For grappling, I use farmer’s walks, which is an extremely underrated exercise for fighting, it strengthens your grip. Animal flow also for mobility. I tend to use supersets, going from squat to assault bike, to kettlebell swings. In a fight, you’re going from one movement to another(often at a breakneck pace) so I make sure that my training mirrors that.
Lifting weights will in fact make you muscle bound for boxing if you do very much of it. Weight lifting will increase your power for about half a round at most then you will have nothing after that and the muscle becomes dead weight. For boxing the strength exercises should focus around strengthening the torso and neck, and other than that just for supplemental training to balance the physique and prevent injuries. Punching power comes from good technique coupled with genetics, not being a bodybuilder. The kind of coordination needed to punch hard is not developed well by doing things like power cleans or bench presses. It's more similar to throwing a javelin or shotput but over and over with a strong endurance element and in a manner that retains your body's balance in addition to the timing. In normal weightlifting exercises there is no rotation of the body involved whereas there is with punching. Lifting weights for boxing is a particularly bad idea if you are not a heavyweight since you will increase your weight class and be at a disadvantage as well.
I met two BJJ guys who were clearly seriously into weight training. When asked both said the same thing (regarding BJJ) 'If you've got the technique the strength helps, if you don't have the technique then it doesn't'.
You can beat a sledgehammer on a tractor tire for explosive power ground n pound and/or chopping wood with an axe, also shot putting a dumbbell have helped me build explosive power also kettlebells are awesome tools as well I also play with wooden nunchucks to develop fast muscle twitch fibers there are so many good techniques out there experiment on yourself marital arts is an rpg keep working on you and level up cause all you have is time.
People, don't let gains be the reason of power in place of no technique. Make sure you actually KNOW how to punch, then build on that. Utilizing 190 -220 lbs of full body mechanics (or however much you way) hurts alot more that a 6 lbs flailing arm.
Reminds me of what I did in highschool to help with punching. I learned how to punch through fencing as TKD punches were less effective for me. I found it odd how gloves seemed to weigh me down, so what I did was take free weights and used 12-20 lbs in my hands while doing punch combinations. Helped a ton, especially for speed. I also used leg weights a ton, to the point that I had full mobility with 10 lbs on each ankle. I could run at full speed, jump, and even do jump rope with it affecting me. Had the fringe benefit of making me immune to slide tackles in soccer.
I I disagree on this one. Lifting weights makes sense for wrestling and clinching but not for punching power in my opinion. The reason is that it makes you slow and punching power comes mostly from the speed with which you can move your body. This is done with strength as well but explosive strength -- not the one you train with lifting heavy weights. But thank you for all the great content you put up! =)
I understand that. I was young and fit and on the first days on site I had to fill 7 skips loading wet clay into wheelbarrows with a shovel and running the barrows up a plank and tipping the clay into the skip. Most of the time I ended up following the barrow into the skip! At the end of the day I was knackered
For kungfu practicioners who use spears, staffs and swords, strength is super important. I feel that after doing some deadlifts, pullups, bicep curls, skullcrushers, shoulder presses, reverse curls, rows , benchpressing and other exercises, I have much better control over the spear and am much faster. Indeed, if you are in a spear fight with someone who is stronger and faster even though you have better technique, you are going to lose badly.
Many people are naturally strong...many people grew up doing hard labour...my brother is a strongman champion and yes if he punches u it is lights out...but I have KO d a few guys without any weight lifting...so it is all a moot point...
I would like to point out that in roughly the same time period Dempsey is saying ‘don’t lift’ wrestlers like Hackenschmidt were dominating strongman competitions and inventing the bench press. Dempsey, as great as he was, got this one thing wrong. Lift. Lift heavy.
Fouts boxing Theory made a comment about power on his boxing channel saying power comes from technique, there were teenagers at my school in the 90`s that could punch very hard and hadn`t lifted a weight in their lives, they did have big biceps though and were very athletic.
My thoughts after all my years of training/coaching is that you can become a better/harder puncher over time with the correct training but the natural ability is a huge factor. I have seen too often strong guys who dont punch hard then some average Joe walk in tear arms off pad holders. I liken it to how some baseball pitchers throw 100mph fastballs, you cant train that into people.
For a lot of people the potential is there but you still have to learn to use it. When I started baseball I threw with just my arm. It took a whole year of practicing to use my whole body. now as an adult I can throw 90 mph and throw from catchers plate to the outfield on my knees. Technique is crucial as a matter of fact I have never in person met a person who can throw something farther than me and I am 135 pounds hardly any muscle but it comes from an solid understanding of the many many forces that work together to make that power and visualize how to get that power to flow from your feet to your arm without any of it dissipating in the wrong direction. Using things like gravity, leverage, momentum, rotation and torque all of that is literally stuff you can learn and practice. I may have been born with some crazy power but I had no idea how to use it without years of practice. Being able to actually use that power without destroying myself was even harder to learn.
you cant learn to have that special type of power. Some people just don't have the same power potential due to limited fast twitch fiber (type 2-b, the amount of which is genetic), muscle insertions, joint and tendon length, bone structure. You can learn to punch harder, but you're born with your set potential, which will never change. Pure anatomy and biology.
On strength, several years ago i was at a very small indoor climbing Gym in London, i weighed about 13 1/2 stone (190 pounds) solid muscle, i got talking to the instructor who at best weighed about 10 stone skinny as fuck, he showed me a rope ladder around 20 feet to the ceiling and he challenged me to climb it without using my legs, i barely made three rungs and gave up..... he then proceeded to climb it using only two fingers on each hand.... that is strength.
Man: I think just that, some people is heavy handed by nature. Obviously you can train pawer and speed, but there will always be something called, genetic limit. For example some people have, excellent reflexes without training, or rythm, or they can take a punch really well. And everybody has like something that comes really natural to them.
Hey Ramsey, just wanted to ask you you guys were still on lockdown in China? Is your gym still closed? We're all getting conflicting info here and it feels like we also might never get to go back to work
I always had this debate with myself. I notice after boxing practice my arms always felt like rubber bands as in strong rubber bands-- snappy. After weignts my arms felt swole but stiff- like some concrete mix and I had this exact question. Thank you for the great content!
yep doing only musculation will never improve your speed and strenght in punching but combining both is the key. If you go to the gym instead of doing running on a treadmills do some round of shadow that will firsat train your cardioa lot and also train your brain to make punch not as a move but as a reflex. In punching speed there is many thing invoved, , first knowing how to trow a punch, that seem very stupid, but many ppls dont really know how to trow a punch. most only muscular guts trow punch and they are veryv ery stiff and they contract all their mucles but trowing a punch is the opposite, you need to flow and knowing how to put your bodyweight behind that flow and also using gravity to increase power cus if your stiff and trow the puch with your arm it can hit hard but try with the flowing method you will hit twice as hard if not more. and when you begin to understand really how to trow a punch you will get quicker and with that speed will come power. Also never stay static when you do shadow boxing, your brain need to learn how to move at the same time than you trow punches and by doing that your moving will be more effective and can get you some additionnal power to.
Turkish get-up is probably 10x more effective than olympic lifts for punching power, and olympic lifts are probably 4x more effective than just pushups and benchpress. The asymmetric nature of it translates to punching mechanics. As for "Technique over Strength" in Jujitsu, it's more like Technique * Strength = Better Jujitsu. You can double either one to be double the effectiveness. However, being really strong makes it much harder (not impossible) to learn superior technique. You have to consciously not use strength when training.
I know someone who has been a lifetime athlete. He is not very strong in the weight room (slightly over 225 max squat). In his prior sports, he had amazing competitive strength (equal to someone who could squat 300/350 lbs). He started boxing and right away had great power, never trained striking before that. Why is there this disparity? His competitive strength is through the roof yet his lifting strength is extremely low?
Knock out power has zero to do with weight lifting. There is a complex chain of events taking place when punching heavy, some people are just able to intuitively put this chain together better..
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Even One Punch Man had to train.
he only did bodyweight and cardio though
100 push ups 100 squats 100 sit ups
@@carllubrin8518 and a 10k run everyday
Punchers are made not born...
But kickers start BEFORE they're born! 😄
"If you look at the wimpiest sport in the world... whatever that is...!"
Aerobic chess.
Wrong.
It's Taekwondo.
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Wrong. It's soccer
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@@squishyoctopi7042 I see your 'soccer' and raise you 1 poomsae
It's no touch martial arts.
Hi Coach, I’m Stewart the guy with the skinny legs 🙂 I’ve kept on with the squats and dead lifts, and I stretch and work on my kicks everyday, my strength level has noticeably increased and my kicks like the round house are starting to have power behind it. I don’t look down at my legs anymore, instead I work on their performance. Many many thanks for the great advice and taking the time for it 👍🙏
Great to hear! Keep up the good work my friend!
This is kind of a controversial topic when it comes to fighting. Yeah proper technique alone can help with punching power but at the end of the day proper technique PLUS a lot of strength will take your punching power to a different level. Mike Tyson had great technique but that alone wasn't what caused him to be able to knock bigger fighters around the ring like it was nothing. U can just look at Mike's fight...especially in his prime...and see that lifting weights was an important part of his training. That big thick lumpy back and those big arms don't come from traditional boxing training.
Tyson claimed he never touched weights in his prime, just calisthenics and heavy bag work built his power.
Nah Tyson didn't lift in his prime.
Tyson was a genetic freak Wakanda experiment specimen on Steroids. His face doesnt even look human. He looka like a predator who eats his fallen enemies. The man is the black panther on the juice. He is the kind of guy who can never lift weights and walk in the gym brnch 405 and do 30 pullups. We all need to train 10+ years to be like that.
You people are bonkers. Of course he lifted weights.
@@danjacksonguitar3701 ....He did. I saw a video of him on the leg press machine. Calisthenics may have been his choice of resistance training but even with that it builds strength. I think ppl missed my whole point. Technique alone will increase punching power but proper technique plus a lot of strength takes your punching power to a different level. That's why they have weights devisions. These little feather and bantom weight fighters can have better technique than a heavyweight but the heavyweight will more than likely still hit harder because they have a lot more strength along with their technique.
I think this is another reason as to why wrestlers are generally more successful in MMA. Weight lifting is an integral part of the wrestling training regime as well as it's emphasis on athletic performance to supplement the techniques. Wrestlers are already considered some of the most elite athletes out there, so the transition to MMA with a solid athletic foundation helps training to be more productive.
Ramsey I'd like to point out that Stipe miocic, the heavyweight g.o.a.t. trains under westside, which is a heavily powerlifting based strength and conditioning program
If you practice 40 hours a day, you can become a good puncher
Wait 40 hrs a day
Twoset?
Gosh, I didn't think there were that many hours in a day.
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"deadlift half a ton"
*Eddie Hall has joined the chat*
Man, you should look into Eddie's eyes when he does the world record deadlift. His soul left his body.
I think Ramsey meant half a thousand lbs but hey, If you can deadlift half a thousand kg's thats good too XD.
Eddie is a savage
Michael Harder dude for real that’s how he looks
I always thought, "if I move heavy weight slow, it won't help punching faster, but it may help to punch harder. If I move light weight quickly it won't help me hit harder, but it may help me move quicker. So mix it up, mostly quick moves with light weight, and occasionally go slow-ish with heavier weight.
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Thank you now I WILL Punch as hard as Francis Ngannou and Deontay Wilder I WILL become the Hardest Puncher in Boxing
Thank you Ramsey
Just beware of weight vests my friend :P
Catonius haha it took me a while to realize it haha good one man thanks for the tip in my future fights I won’t use it haha
The hype is real
@ryukenb2k So that makes you Geno... The dude who gets slapped off panel at the beginning of every fight. ;)
Omg I love this comment so much and then as I’m about to type it I glance up and read the username and love it even more 😂😂😂👊🏽
Yes, pull ups is number one, especially weighed pull ups
Why do I feel like your me from a parallel universe?
@@Mojospider2099 awe too cute, two weebsters collide
Best workout for punching power is sledgehammer swings on a tire or a axe and hitting wood
@Storm photography I think it trains the inner muscles. It could also be training balance, arm, shoulder, strength, grip strength etc. I'm not a biologist so everything I said might be wrong.
Lol you non punchers make me laugh, by your logic a guy who lifts more than you hits harder. Stfu
Key take away: whatever makes you a better athlete makes you a better fighter. Be patient.
Another great video, thanks coach!
I love your videos. They've really helped me. I used to be Anorexic. Had the worst back pain that would never stop... all my life. Now I've started working out, And the pain is practically gone. It's like a miracle. Posture is better, moving and working is alot easier too..
Strength is important for everyone. Not just for showing off muscles.
Good job :)
@@YaboiTombuto Thank you!
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Lifting weights also burns more calories meaning you can eat more.
60's, 70's and 80's boxers look lighter on their feet when compared to the boxers who came after.
Holyfield?
@@user-rl9cu1nt1l No question about it.
@@user-rl9cu1nt1l disagree. I have eyes and I can clearly see some old fighters could give fighters today alot of trouble.
That's because a lot of them are smaller mainly in the heavyweight division. Smaller men find it naturally easier to move around. The 6ft7 ect. Heavyweights today have their own strengths
The Celtic Magician jesse willard was 6’7 in 1919 Heavyweight world champ
Phil Daru does great Strength and Conditioning work down at ATT. He works with Barboza, JJ, Frankie Edgar, Poirier, etc
Bodyweight rows are like reverse pushups. They're pretty good and are great for people which can't do pullups as yet.
Very true. When george hackenschmith switched from weigjt lifting for years to wrestling he mentioned that he could beat almost any technical wrestler. Later with some wrestling specific training he because a world champion
Ramsey have you heard about shin kicking and chessboxing ?
Good thing I did a year of weight lifting , now I have a good advantage over other martial artists.
One year isn't that much.. You should never stop strenght training, it has to be a part of your life.
1 year isn’t an advantage over other fighters lol.
You'd get knocked out
@@jordanpresnell4697 we'll i got to bench 87.5 kg*4 , squat 102.5*6 and deadlift 140 *5 and weighted pull up 10+85kg *3
@@karlokamenjasevic921 sure bud.
Okay. I'm gonna go train now ;)
Knuckle push ups..till your arms turning to jello..if you do not have access to weights/stuck in home/isolation...also rotate fist position for variation..
If your arms turn to jello, just add water and leave overnight.
Force = Mass x Acceleration. By adding muscle you're adding a type of mass that doesn't reduce your acceleration. Practice punching and get jacked and you'll likely hit with more force.
being stronger will make you punch a little bit harder. But punchers are born not made. I don't care how many weights you lift you will never punch like Wilder, Tyson or Foreman unless you were born with that rare gift. Just like how you can't learn to throw a 100 mph fastball no matter how hard you try.
If you can increase your force output and acceleration naturally your power will increase. Perfecting your technique will always be top priority
even in esports, whatever opinion people might have of it, the top players in the world are often in really good shape because even your concentration and endurance for sitting improves as you get fitter. not to mention reaction times etc.
life is better if you are fitter/buffer, thats for sure!
Ramsey I must say that I never lift weights but do typical bodyweight training and focus on my boxing technique. As a result I punch way above my weight. In fact just practicing hitting harder and harder on the heavy bag has done a lot for me.
weights are beneficial to a certain extent for fighting but body weight excercises like pull ups push ups and yoga are the best.
Your so inspiring man your partly the reason I'm starting to train for combat sports. Sincerely thank you for that
The bench press is both underrated and overrated exercise. Bros and powerlifters are obsessed with it. The uneducated think its unfunctional.
Increasing your overall pressing power, the strength in your triceps, shoulders and chest carries over so well in combat sports. When I took time off boxing and went back to lifting weights, my bench went up by 20kg and it made all the difference to my crosses and hooks.
True but I would argue over head press is much more functional and has more carryover.
Yes and no. While it will increase the strength of your shoulders and your stability, it will allow you to lift less weight, and benching your OHP anyway. I say this as a guy who can strict press 100kg after months of not training it. Maybe it will strengthen the snap, but thats about it really.
@@sheadoherty7434 I just categorically disagree, also as a guy can strict press 100kg
@@stephen8996 what bit do you disagree with?
@Storm photography you're missing the forest for the trees. Being a fixed exercises is why its more functional in terms of strength and power. Since you're in a stronger position leverage wise, you can lift more weight. Exercises that allow you to lift more weight will get you stronger. If you're looking to work stability your scapula and shoulder health, go for the OHP. I'm a big advocate for the OHP, but it's not the better "strength training" exercise unless you have weak shoulders. What you're arguing is akin to saying the front squat is superior to the low bar back squat.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for this coach!!!!! You keep telling people this over and over and over again and they still don't get it at all
Speaking of size and strength. I'm a big guy, and in high school I was quite a bit more fit. I took a few months of Judo. I was a white belt and had only been taught a few of the beginning moves (and how to fall without breaking yourself). They constantly talked about Judo being a martial art where it doesn't matter how big or strong you are. There was a very scrawny guy who was a blackbelt and one of the sensei's, and almost every time I'd go against him I'd win because although I didn't have much technique, I could muscle through whatever he was trying to do. So even in sports where "Strength is not important", it sure gives you a huge advantage.
32 kilo TURKISH LIFTS?
That's.... impressive.
That physical foundation you mention is perfectly brought up in All Rounder Meguru. Once he (Meguru) starts training with Wanatabe (a very athletic and strong wrestler) in a special regimen, prior to his fights, "his characteristic" are able to come to life... In his case, his creativity and ability to flow through differents techniques, to improvise when fighting. Ever since I read those chapters, I've been thinking a lot about how even some technical aspects, not directly related to strenght, won't appear unless you've developed enough strenght in your muscles to move the best way you can, or more precisely, to move even more authentic to your real hidden talents.
Eyy another reader. The manga is awesome, but I haven't caught up to it yet. From a martial artist, how close would you consider it close to real life? I know it's a manga but it seems close... I don't do martial arts but I'm going to start soon (hopefully), so I wanted to hear someone's take.
@@YaboiTombuto It's pretty legit. Coach Ramsey already did a video on All Rounder Meguru analyzing the techniques showed in it. Personally I think it is pretty real and well-detailed. Even tho I'm a fan of grappling, I have minimum experience on it, so I just can't extend that much my argument on how well executed those techniques are, and with the striking, I see less details on that part. I think there are a lot of concepts that could ben included in the manga to show aboute strikes in general, and the fighters are often inconsistent in that regard (main issue on it being the fact that Maki is an excellent fighter but seems to doesnt know much about boxing)... But overall it has become one of my favoutite mangas, I really love the characters, their development so far, and most of the techniques most of the time
@@YaboiTombuto That's awesome, you should totally train martial arts
It makes a lot of sense think Max Baer who used to shovel all the time, George Foreman who used to pull mules, and Marciano often deadlifted.
Most of my workouts are compound based. mostly body weight; pull ups, push ups, abs and burpees. I also add up a lots of twist/fast twitch exercises along the way. However, twice a week, I lift extremely heavy. One day I do lower body and the other, I do upper body. I am so much stronger and powerful without gaining any additional body mass.
Lifting and athletic training definitely has its place in fighting arts!
the strong guy failed in turkish get up, because its high skill exercise like snatch or clean and jerk which means there are strong people that cant snatch a lot, but nobody good at those is by any means weak
look for example Clerance Kennedy 230kg clean and jerk around 190kg snatch (if i remember correctly) and still deadlifts around 350kg, but there is no guy that can S and CJ that has weak squat or deadlift
strength means production of force againts external resistance nothing more nothing less, there are no "different types of strength"
btw dont know how people came up with this sht, my guess is the scammers that came up with "functional training"
I believe you should not only train with calesthincs, but also weight lifting and combat training. It's the most important thing to do everything you can, asking the question what's better this or this, is wrong, instead do both. Punching makes you better at punching, lifting makes you better at lifting, and they can help both of each other.
I think the main problem is one believing that strength can substitute for technique; such as a weight lifter or bodybuilder out boxing a boxer or defeating an MMA fighter,; as that is generally not even close to reality. My father was a boxer and was against my brother and I lifting weights. He believed that it was a waste of time and actually was deleterious to punching power and fight endurance. My brother and I persisted and he eventually came to the conclusion that lifting weights, if done with fighting in mind, was simply an enhancement of the exercises that we already did: push ups, pull ups, sit ups, hypertension’s, etc.
Punchers are made. By punching. Lifting weights only if they are light. For me is about how fast you can move the weight. Not how much is the weight. Your fist will not become more heavier, its speed has to be increased. All boxers, wrestlers and MMA fighters was coming to me to play beach volleyball. While indoor and even beach volleyball pro players ws forbidden from their trainers/coaches to play to not injure.
I am training with 1 kg small pillates ball. All kinds of excercises. Even punch myself with the ball to simulate hits on me. Rope jumps in the sand, gymnastics. But playing beach volleyball is so much fun and you become a lot more flexible.
Jerk/push press can also be realy good to learn how to drive trow the leg into the upper body
I was a power lifter and bodybuilder before boxing. When I started boxing I found that it gave me considerable power on the heavy bag. I found that my hand speed increased rapidly. My stamina was and is quite good. During sparring at first I wasn't very good but that was because of inexperience, not strength training. I believe that established martial artists who do not strength train feel threatened by those who do. And that is why they discourage it. I will continue to do both. You can be both strong and a proficient martial artist. No question about it. I feel finally vindicated after all these years!
A wide back is usually a sign for great punching power, but not always. There's people like David Tua, Igor Vovchanchyn, Mark Hunt, Mike Tyson, all having wide backs, but there are also boxers like Julian "The Hawk" Jackson, who looks skinny.
Proper form and timing works wonders for gaining power. When you look at most of the so called "naturals" in sports (i.e. punchers, home run hitters, golf's long ball hitters), they usually possess a natural kinesthetic intelligence with regard to form that gives them their natural power. Knowing how to get the most from movement is a key facet to power improvement. Thanks for the vid coach!
You know, one thing I notice Ramsey is that some of the heaviest punchers Ernie shavers, George foreman they were farmers(so basically resistance training on a day to day basis). Hell even Marvin Hagler(rest his soul.) did construction during the day and trained at night! Which is pretty much if not almost the same! He was basically training all the time or made his life training which probably gave the edge and if not extra knock out power! I mean deontay wilders another example of this he was a truck driver and did do football until he had has daughter, however being a truck driver you have to lift and move packages another example of resistance training/lifting!
My comment may be a little too late but kettlebells helped me a lot in building power.
A big part of it is the mass of the arm plus whatever weight from your body is behind the punch. Some of the best boxers and punchers had big arm and hand bones as well as a lot of speed. It's hard to reduce punching down to a formula (like kinetic energy) because I think there is some pushing action when you make contact that ensures maximum energy transmission. Do you feel like you contract your muscles when you make contact with a punch? My physics knowledge and my martial arts knowledge are not quite enough for me to claim I'm sure this is how it works.
Yeah punching is mostly a pressing motion that means chest, triceps and shoulders. But the real power comes from rotating your whole body and pushing the leg into the ground. Also a lot of times if you train antagonistic movements the number of your main movement go also up.
Speaking of physics, what about Newton's first law: an object in motion will remain in motion unless acted upon by an unbalanced force?"
@@krane15 I tend to see a punch as more like a collision in physics, like how energy is transferred between billiard balls very quickly, but this can get complicated. I don't understand enough physics to completely describe what is going on with a punch.
I think every figjter should at least build a base in lifting. Run a novice training for 12/18 months, and milk out your lineair progression.
If you could do something like this you will be very strong and going over that point might not be good for a fighter because you wil have to train more specific for strenght:
Deadlift 180kg x5
Squat 140kg x5
Benchpress 100kg x5
Overhead press 70kg x5
Push press 80kg x5
Power clean 100kg x5
Front squat 100kg x5
Pendlay row 110kg x5
Weighted pull ups 40kg x5
The most improvement I've made in martial arts is in the last 2 years, during which time I've gained 10kg of muscle.
Love the Q&A series Ramsey!!!
I started lifting weights, actually using weight machines march last year. I could only bench a pathetic 50 lbs 3 reps of 15 at first. In two months, that was up to 100lbs using three reps of 20. It doesn't take long to gain strength. It takes work to keep it though.
The reason you could lift the kettlebell is because you are Hater Sensi Grand Master Chosen One™️.
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I got in a street fight when I was 16 and it messed my shoulder up for a long time. I started lifting weights at age 38 my body is so much more sturdy and my shoulder I had issues with is not an issue any more.
Is there such a thing as "strong enough" or even "too strong"?
When I practised kenpo, my sensei was adamant in developing muscle mass, but not to become a sasquatch.
@@JP-hr3xq Sure, punching is about power, not raw strength, so training just for mass will not be a great idea. However, raw strength is excellent when grappling, so...50/50?
I believe pretty much anyone who has some basic training could knock out pretty much anyone else with a well-placed punch/kick, provided you can land that punch/kick, as you said.
BTW, I never really liked taekwondo. It's flashy cool and all, but you learn to hatre it if you watch taekwondo fights in the olympic games.
Think about this. I weighed 135 in the army and I could put a 200+ pound guy on my shoulders and do squats. I weigh about 215 now and haven't done a lot of training but I do move 300 pounds of salt and most objects that tend to big/heavy with ease on a daily basis. I'm not as fit as I was in the army but I know how to use that strength to do the job that I need to do. This is pretty much what Ramsey is explaining when he says "Strong doesn't mean big". Strong is knowing how to use your strength efficiently and effectively. Ramsey understands that as a fighter, you have to be strong, fast, flexible and adaptable. Strength, speed and flexibility come from training the body. Adaptability comes from training the mind. Peak in those qualities and you should be able to dominate any sport.
Hey brothers just adding my personal experience with bodybuilding transition to to MMA. The hardest part was not the speed, it was the flexibility. I had good explosive strength but it wasn't sustainable. It's not due to the lack of cardio but just a different type of endurance. My body wasn't used to running efficiently on low gas. It took me about 6 months to stop feeling like a bodybuilder and more like an athlete but in my humble opinion, I put in my work. BJJ came a lot more natural because of the physical strength advantage I have (yes, I know lol) . I've been training for about 2 years now and I look more like a fighter than a bodybuilder. I still strength train and surprisingly have not lost too much muscle. Hoping for my first amateur bout this year before the pandemic. It took me about 2 years to carry over what I had learned in weight lifting to fighting. I feel in tune with my body at all times and perhaps that is the best part of this journey of mine. Good luck and train hard #RamseyCrew
Definitely agree that pylo exercises, squats, cleans and deadlifts help the most. I got almost zero combat gains from benchpressing, pressing or pushups despite huge gains. In fact they were mostly stamina gains. Balance gains is by far the most important strength trainingway to increase punching and kicking power, which is why squats work so well. Still it’s only like 10%, most gains come from simply punching the heavy bag over and over
great intro, thanks for the upload
Good punches are born and then made. Everyone has a natural ability to punch then the training gives you that extra boost. So i say its both hardwork and genetics.
Anyone can train to be a better puncher than they already are, however there is a ceiling on how hard a puncher can punch.
For example a 150 lb guy cant punch as hard as a 250 guy they can both improve but if they both put everything into their punch with all the training simple physics 250 lb hits way harder .
So yes the training and weights definitetly help. But genetics play a big role like 60-70% then the hardwork training accounts for the rest.
So hard punchers are born and made together . Its a combination of hardwork and genetics.
When Ramsey said, "if you look at the wimpiest sports in the world, whatever that is, and look at the professional version of that, the athletes are doing squats and deadlifts and sprints..." I immediately thought of Tiger Woods. Golfers are hitting little, tiny balls that weigh less than 2 ounces, with clubs that weigh less than one pound. You'd think, and for decades the experts did think, that strength played little to zero role in a golfer's ability. Then came Tiger Woods. In one interview, when asked about his training routine, he said, "“Well, I used to get up in the morning, run four miles,” Woods said. “Then I’d go to the gym, do my lift. Then I’d hit balls for two to three hours. I’d go play, come back, work on my short game. I’d go run another four more miles, and then if anyone wanted to play basketball or tennis, I would go play basketball or tennis." And, "according to a story in the Fort Worth Telegram, Tiger was seen recently bench pressing 315 pounds at a fitness center in Fort Worth, Texas. Tiger was taking part in a Nike photo shoot on how some golf athletes train. Tiger weighs around 185 lbs. so he is benching close to double his body weight. He is really strong for his size. The workout Tiger did would resemble what an NFL safety would do,” said fitness center owner Larry North. “His strength is mind-boggling for a guy his size. He is very fit and very, very strong. He’s in great shape”.
I think much better than doing weights is to get a job involving heavy lifting - as then your strength will develop more naturally and also more practically. Because one thing I hated about lifting weights from a young age - example, curls: if you do something to assist the lifting motion (such as putting entire body weight underneath it); then you get told you're cheating and "Use the arm, only" ! And later on, this type of conditioning will begin to affect the body's motor mechanics and also reflexes - where there is zero time to think, only split-second response based on conditioning [prior training drills, etc].
Contrast doing weights with something like working in architectural metal-work - constant heavy lifting involved: however there, it is being done in a PRACTICAL way (with efficiency of motion & energy preservation in mind).
I gotta say I agree with u a lot more on this topic today compared to yesterday.
Wow man I discovered your channel one week ago and in this quarantine I watched alot from your videos because I am planning to start learning judo. You are so good at explaining and telling advice and most importantly I can't help but listen to you cause you are speaking in very professional and nice way.
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I definitely agree with weight training. I don't agree that punchers are not born though. Plenty of people are born naturally powerful punchers. Strength training just augments that.
They're genetically strong. Punching is just a function of that strength.
@@krane15 yes.... your point? What does that change? You adding nothing too the discussion lol
@@krane15 also punching power and strength aren't the same
@@douglasmacneil4474 Accuracy. I removed the ambiguity, and your statement is now more accurate. You're welcome.
@@douglasmacneil4474 A straw man argument? We all know what that means.
The wimpiest sport is neddle crotchet...my great grandmother -was an up and commer ..and yup!---she did 300 pushups ,200 pull ups ,420 lbs. Bench press , 40min. Sprints ,each morning ...😂
..i told her crocheting was a "wimpy sport "..next thing i remember I woke up, 3 days later, in the hospital room ...😒
I guess she couldnt take a joke .
Thanks Ramsey, good stuff!
The best way to become better at anything is to do that thing and supplementary work that more or less mimic said thing or work on a specific part of that thing. Simple as
I do weighted Dips and pull ups after 3 sets of 8-10 reps. And the 5x5 for bench presses, deadlifts and squats. For grappling, I use farmer’s walks, which is an extremely underrated exercise for fighting, it strengthens your grip. Animal flow also for mobility.
I tend to use supersets, going from squat to assault bike, to kettlebell swings. In a fight, you’re going from one movement to another(often at a breakneck pace) so I make sure that my training mirrors that.
Did u ever get into a street fight ?
Lifting weights will in fact make you muscle bound for boxing if you do very much of it. Weight lifting will increase your power for about half a round at most then you will have nothing after that and the muscle becomes dead weight.
For boxing the strength exercises should focus around strengthening the torso and neck, and other than that just for supplemental training to balance the physique and prevent injuries.
Punching power comes from good technique coupled with genetics, not being a bodybuilder. The kind of coordination needed to punch hard is not developed well by doing things like power cleans or bench presses. It's more similar to throwing a javelin or shotput but over and over with a strong endurance element and in a manner that retains your body's balance in addition to the timing. In normal weightlifting exercises there is no rotation of the body involved whereas there is with punching.
Lifting weights for boxing is a particularly bad idea if you are not a heavyweight since you will increase your weight class and be at a disadvantage as well.
False. Lifting weights does not make you heavier. Eating a caloric excess makes you heavier.
I met two BJJ guys who were clearly seriously into weight training. When asked both said the same thing (regarding BJJ) 'If you've got the technique the strength helps, if you don't have the technique then it doesn't'.
You can beat a sledgehammer on a tractor tire for explosive power ground n pound and/or chopping wood with an axe, also shot putting a dumbbell have helped me build explosive power also kettlebells are awesome tools as well I also play with wooden nunchucks to develop fast muscle twitch fibers there are so many good techniques out there experiment on yourself marital arts is an rpg keep working on you and level up cause all you have is time.
People, don't let gains be the reason of power in place of no technique. Make sure you actually KNOW how to punch, then build on that. Utilizing 190 -220 lbs of full body mechanics (or however much you way) hurts alot more that a 6 lbs flailing arm.
I would say both. Punchers have to be born, then made into what's required to be a puncher.
Reminds me of what I did in highschool to help with punching. I learned how to punch through fencing as TKD punches were less effective for me. I found it odd how gloves seemed to weigh me down, so what I did was take free weights and used 12-20 lbs in my hands while doing punch combinations. Helped a ton, especially for speed.
I also used leg weights a ton, to the point that I had full mobility with 10 lbs on each ankle. I could run at full speed, jump, and even do jump rope with it affecting me. Had the fringe benefit of making me immune to slide tackles in soccer.
I I disagree on this one. Lifting weights makes sense for wrestling and clinching but not for punching power in my opinion. The reason is that it makes you slow and punching power comes mostly from the speed with which you can move your body. This is done with strength as well but explosive strength -- not the one you train with lifting heavy weights. But thank you for all the great content you put up! =)
I'm a third generation brickmason and I seen big buff men look weak trying to push a wheelbarrow of mortar through sand
I understand that.
I was young and fit and on the first days on site I had to fill 7 skips loading wet clay into wheelbarrows with a shovel and running the barrows up a plank and tipping the clay into the skip.
Most of the time I ended up following the barrow into the skip!
At the end of the day I was knackered
For kungfu practicioners who use spears, staffs and swords, strength is super important. I feel that after doing some deadlifts, pullups, bicep curls, skullcrushers, shoulder presses, reverse curls, rows , benchpressing and other exercises, I have much better control over the spear and am much faster. Indeed, if you are in a spear fight with someone who is stronger and faster even though you have better technique, you are going to lose badly.
Many people are naturally strong...many people grew up doing hard labour...my brother is a strongman champion and yes if he punches u it is lights out...but I have KO d a few guys without any weight lifting...so it is all a moot point...
Bruce Sato said: " LIFTER ON!"
32kg get ups is strong as hell man, i deadlift 230kg but a 20kg get up is a real struggle for me
I would like to point out that in roughly the same time period Dempsey is saying ‘don’t lift’ wrestlers like Hackenschmidt were dominating strongman competitions and inventing the bench press. Dempsey, as great as he was, got this one thing wrong. Lift. Lift heavy.
You comparing a boxer to a wrestler
Fouts boxing Theory made a comment about power on his boxing channel saying power comes from technique, there were teenagers at my school in the 90`s that could punch very hard and hadn`t lifted a weight in their lives, they did have big biceps though and were very athletic.
My thoughts after all my years of training/coaching is that you can become a better/harder puncher over time with the correct training but the natural ability is a huge factor. I have seen too often strong guys who dont punch hard then some average Joe walk in tear arms off pad holders. I liken it to how some baseball pitchers throw 100mph fastballs, you cant train that into people.
For a lot of people the potential is there but you still have to learn to use it. When I started baseball I threw with just my arm. It took a whole year of practicing to use my whole body. now as an adult I can throw 90 mph and throw from catchers plate to the outfield on my knees. Technique is crucial as a matter of fact I have never in person met a person who can throw something farther than me and I am 135 pounds hardly any muscle but it comes from an solid understanding of the many many forces that work together to make that power and visualize how to get that power to flow from your feet to your arm without any of it dissipating in the wrong direction. Using things like gravity, leverage, momentum, rotation and torque all of that is literally stuff you can learn and practice. I may have been born with some crazy power but I had no idea how to use it without years of practice. Being able to actually use that power without destroying myself was even harder to learn.
Thank you 🙏
you cant learn to have that special type of power. Some people just don't have the same power potential due to limited fast twitch fiber (type 2-b, the amount of which is genetic), muscle insertions, joint and tendon length, bone structure.
You can learn to punch harder, but you're born with your set potential, which will never change. Pure anatomy and biology.
On strength, several years ago i was at a very small indoor climbing Gym in London, i weighed about 13 1/2 stone (190 pounds) solid muscle, i got talking to the instructor who at best weighed about 10 stone skinny as fuck, he showed me a rope ladder around 20 feet to the ceiling and he challenged me to climb it without using my legs, i barely made three rungs and gave up..... he then proceeded to climb it using only two fingers on each hand.... that is strength.
Man: I think just that, some people is heavy handed by nature. Obviously you can train pawer and speed, but there will always be something called, genetic limit. For example some people have, excellent reflexes without training, or rythm, or they can take a punch really well. And everybody has like something that comes really natural to them.
Now get out there and train.
Hey Ramsey, just wanted to ask you you guys were still on lockdown in China? Is your gym still closed? We're all getting conflicting info here and it feels like we also might never get to go back to work
Depressed as fuck today about my wasted potential. Ya yelped me get some sets in. Thanks man.
I always had this debate with myself. I notice after boxing practice my arms always felt like rubber bands as in strong rubber bands-- snappy. After weignts my arms felt swole but stiff- like some concrete mix and I had this exact question. Thank you for the great content!
yep doing only musculation will never improve your speed and strenght in punching but combining both is the key. If you go to the gym instead of doing running on a treadmills do some round of shadow that will firsat train your cardioa lot and also train your brain to make punch not as a move but as a reflex. In punching speed there is many thing invoved, , first knowing how to trow a punch, that seem very stupid, but many ppls dont really know how to trow a punch. most only muscular guts trow punch and they are veryv ery stiff and they contract all their mucles but trowing a punch is the opposite, you need to flow and knowing how to put your bodyweight behind that flow and also using gravity to increase power cus if your stiff and trow the puch with your arm it can hit hard but try with the flowing method you will hit twice as hard if not more. and when you begin to understand really how to trow a punch you will get quicker and with that speed will come power. Also never stay static when you do shadow boxing, your brain need to learn how to move at the same time than you trow punches and by doing that your moving will be more effective and can get you some additionnal power to.
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Turkish get-up is probably 10x more effective than olympic lifts for punching power, and olympic lifts are probably 4x more effective than just pushups and benchpress. The asymmetric nature of it translates to punching mechanics.
As for "Technique over Strength" in Jujitsu, it's more like Technique * Strength = Better Jujitsu. You can double either one to be double the effectiveness. However, being really strong makes it much harder (not impossible) to learn superior technique. You have to consciously not use strength when training.
Well said coach
I know someone who has been a lifetime athlete. He is not very strong in the weight room (slightly over 225 max squat). In his prior sports, he had amazing competitive strength (equal to someone who could squat 300/350 lbs). He started boxing and right away had great power, never trained striking before that.
Why is there this disparity? His competitive strength is through the roof yet his lifting strength is extremely low?
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You mentioned once i think, that lifting helps bone density? My age i have reduces bone desnity i beleive. Will lifing really help that.?
Yes, it will. Even walking and running will.
@@Drehirth thank you. That is actually really new information.
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Weight training will increase your bone density, but its not a fast process. It takes time.
@@krane15 oh thank you for that info.
Knock out power has zero to do with weight lifting. There is a complex chain of events taking place when punching heavy, some people are just able to intuitively put this chain together better..