Training too many styles: The art of Fighting is one thing, not a composite of distilled systems
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2024
- Can you train in too many fighting styles?
Q&A with the coach. If you have questions for the next episode of Q&A with the coach, leave them in the comments below!
Shanghai based MMA coach and Kunlun Fight ringside commentator Ramsey Dewey answers questions from the viewers.
Fighting in its purest form is not an amalgamation of different fighting styles. Rather, fighting styles are a bastardization of pure fighting.
Got questions for the next Q&A? Leave them in the comments below!
Hi coach Ramsey, I'm just getting into mma for 8 months and I have a goal to take part in an amateur fight in the future. However I'm already 24 years old and I weigh around 67 kg. I'm afraid when I get to such fights I will have to compete against kids who started at 16. Would you consider this a big problem?
How do amateur mma fights differ from the ufc fights we see on tv?
@@orionfollett7056 I would say the skill pool is not as big and refined and you are more likely to lose due to weaker cardio than skill
To clarify my question, I heard that the lighter your weight class is the younger you need to start training. And the only training I have before mma is 5 years of weight lifting
Hey coach, I just started doing BJJ a few weeks ago and I have some free private lessons from the gym when I signed up. I want to use these as I am pretty overwhelmed by all this and I dont have a good grasp on what I am doing, and want to get some semblance of understanding. Would it be a good idea to use this now? or would it be better to wait until I have a better idea of what questions to ask first?
Hitting my opponent with a spinning hook kick is my preferred method of escaping being pinned on the ground.
Are you a wizard?
I didn't say it works, just that I prefer it.
Boxing looks simple to the untrained eye boxing is pretty complex especially learning footwork
True
I was never good at it... boxers are something else...
Simple to the untrained eye complex to the trainee and simple again to the master
The sweet science . . .
Basics of footwork is fairly simple too, at least compared to combining it with the rest of stuff and using it tactically in a fight (probably true about most arts but boxing is something else, I still can't do it properly)
This philosophy is straight up how Uncle Iroh invented redirecting lightning
ah, a man of culture
Wholesome references enter the game
Bruce lee type shii
I disagree. I trained the art of walking, running, jumping, hand touchy, hand grippy, fisty hole and kicky kick. Multiple style means im more superior than all of you
Those are some truly badass styles!
Truely the great disciple of the mystical internal art of ‘fisty hole’.
Yes, but my kickety Mckickface is far superior.
I throw in my hidden " tickle tummy tackle" technique on my training partners...they never see it coming
@@matsuwd-emethdaath4002 all fun and games till you learn about the motor boat escape while north south.....
I love this answer.
Often times, it feels like people don't see it as the end result: Fighting. But they prefer to hear about certifications from multiple 'schools' as if the individual doesn't matter, and that fights are like a fighting game where everything is nothing but rigid stances and poses.
Henry Cejudo mentioned it in JRE podcast that after he decided he wanted to pursuit MMA, he basically focused most of his technical training on MMA as a whole rather than each martial art separately. MMA is its own sport after all.
Once rules get established a single style will inevitably emerge. MMA will probably break down into a handful of camps, similar to boxing where you can see the influences of their coaches. Different styles of footwork, favored combinations, and approaches to grappling.
The reason I think a lot of people come up with the assumption that training in many types of martial arts will automatically make you a better fighter is because most of us have been told that through various MMA platforms. Most MMA fighters and commentators often mention the fighter’s vast background in order to sell how versatile and great the fighter is. We as the audience don’t know any better because we haven’t really heard otherwise.
I'm the person who asked the question, this is exactly what I was wondering. Looking back at it now I wish I worded it better.
Dark Collective It was a great question because I had assumed the same thing. It wasn’t until he answered your question that I was able to think about the reasoning behind it
I mean if you look at GSP, he’s not the best puncher or striker (otherwise he’d have done pro-boxing or Muay Thai or something), he’s not the best grappler (there’s footage of Roger Gracie beating him even though he put up a good game when they rolled) but if you put them all together under a set of rules which allows all of it he becomes a champion! So my take is you can have your own way to become the best in MMA without being the best and training in every specific area, but you’ve got to be able to deal with every specific area your opponent will attack you from and have a good way to beat your opponent.
GSP might not be the best, but he is very high level. Gordon Ryan says he’s the hardest guy to sumi gaeshi.
I think GSP made everyone realize what true fighting looks like
I agree
Second comment coz this video is so good, I learned wing chun and after learning kickboxing i still use wing chun but just like you said, within the moments where its applicable such as building a frame in clinch or maybe using a more creative block. Wing Chun for me is actually just a drill curriculum that should be learnt in Kick boxing you know? That's how i Incorporated my Wing Chun, not as a separate style but just another drill or curriculum within the training of kick boxing
The idea of wanting to "clearly see" a particular style used in a fight is, when you think about it, actually illogical.
In combat, don't we want to make our techniques subtle so as to minimize the opponent's chances of reading and countering our moves?
That means the more efficient a fighter is at using a "high-level" technique during a fight, the less obvious/flashy it will look to outside observers.
Ironically, that also means that when traditional martial arts practitioners effectively use their skills in a fight, they sometimes get boo-ed for not "showing the style" of their art. Which is ridiculous.
Some martial arts fandom can be weird. Instead of seeking what works they focus on what they want to work.
"The hand is swifter than the eye"
- George Silver, English Sword Master, 1599 AD
Sharingan?
😳
Even Fiore, almost 200 years earlier in 1409, said about stances that you "not wait in them too long, due to the rapid changes that take place during grappling."
I don't see anything that reliably says he was a Sword Master. From what I have read, they would of considered him a Master of Defence if he was a Master. of anything Not to say his work was not important, as it gives an insight how sword fighting was perceived and performed in England at the time. That and his biases against the Italian forms.
@@mafiamole well he is certainly my Master :)
"There is no such thing as martial arts... only the art of fighting."- Some old man at a temple or something, at some point in time.
I think we are of the same mind here. All schools point toward the same goal. I get the sense that some people believe learning new philosophies will change their perception. Possibly, but you need to be able to think for yourself first. Whatever gets you to that point of seeing the truth through your own eyes, not someone else's.
what reminded me that ramsey dewey is half British: how he pronounces "vitamins"
Punch professor is a good recommendation for the physical, technical, and spiritual. I appreciated your direction to that site. God Bless you and thank you Coach.
Wonderful perspective, mine is complimentary. Even in one style you can be overwhelmed. Train bjj from the back or take downs, locks or chokes, minutia of the arm bar or dynamic of positional rolling. The age old question of training weak points or strengths will never go away. I look at my resources, gyms, partners, trainers, time. I look at what I want to address. I make a plan as to how these fit together with what I want out of training and go for it. Then periodically re-evaluate. This helped me get more skilled but more importantly, it kept me motivated.
I usually tell people the 4 foundations of MMA should be boxing, Muay That, BJJ, and Wrestling. But understand that each system has some movement that work for real fighting or MMA but some of the moves in each system are not good at all for MMA but specific for that sport. And those move that don’t apply to MMA are still important to learn at least a little, because you may come across it during a match and then you’ll have an idea of what to do.
That's how I feel about deep half guard. I wouldn't use it for mma/self defense, but I have had scrambles where I end up there and it's nice to know what to do on those rare occasions.
I relate to this. For about ten years I trained about a year in a different style because i moved each year. I did Kali, TKD, Koei Kan Karate, Kenpo Karate, BJJ, Muy Thai, San Soo, etc. But it was tough because at times different styles had contradictory movements, (chin down hands up in boxing vs. head kinda high with hands low in karate). It was great to learn alot of diverse stuff, but in the last 8 years or so i finally stuck with three things: karate as my base, pad work/basic kickboxing, and no gi rolling. (Maybe I am still all over the place, could be the ADHD;)
11:44 onward was a treat. Finally internal arts getting seen for what they are, this is so rare on youtube. No wonder it's coming from you though!
The topic of this video is something I tell my students a lot - every martial art is based, at least somewhat, on reality. In my experience, the hand fighting/trapping techniques of Wing Chun are rarely useful in a striking context, but EXTREMELY useful in a stand up grappling scenario (Muay Thai clinch/Judo scenario.) Not a 1:1 transfer, but if you have a good understanding of grappling and wing chun, the principles are pretty transferable. Point is - everything is "real," but maybe not as real as martial artists want it to be.
Wow, this guy just demystified this age old conversation brilliantly. This proves that when you think you know the most basic of things, there is yet so much more to know; and with such a simple explanation..
Liked and added to favourites. I think this is your most important, if not best video.
Thanks
@@RamseyDewey No. Thank you. Now back to Ramsey Dewey, coming to you live from Shanghai, China.
There are a number of MMA fights that can go several rounds with very little clinching. Cody Garbrandt seems to specialise in this. It’s fairly common in the welter weight category too. But I gather a lot of this is just done for points and to act as a spectacle for the audience. The older UFC fights had a lot more grappling.
Alright so, after seeing a handful of your videos in the past and now this one, I've decided to add this channel to my ever-growing list of subscriptions lol
This is **exactly** what the "martial arts" community needs to hear and get through their thick skulls. It's all about fighting as a whole rather than the singular puzzle piece, and sadly so many remain locked into that frame of thinking to their own detriment...
I really enjoyed the last half of this! Waiting eagerly for the old timer's speed bag patterns now.
Could you show how to do the Dempsey roll and explain how and if it can be used in MMA?
1st step : launch jet engine sounds behind you
@@Tanishqkanojia1163 I already got that part :D
@@Panagiotis1709 hehe nice
But the second step : loop in an infinite loop at jet speed
Nothing new here, but I found that at a certain level, a lot of techniques from the arts I like overlap; especially at the basics. Then it just becomes about learning the little nuances that makes that specific style its own.
For example, if you're good at Judo or BJJ, you probably already know most of the repetoire in Loose-Grip Glima. The only difference would be the victory condition: No pins or submissions in Glima; to win you need to be standing with the opponent on the floor. With 0 physical contact. If your opponent has a single hand touching you, the fight keeps going.
Same throws, same ground work and positions, just... used differently.
So basically fighting is an apple/cherry etc tree, that needs a solid trunk, but also branches to bear fruit?
Even, If the "trunk" is mma?
Interesting analogy
Does that make "real world" violence the roots?
@@williamjohnson476 No, the violence are the maggots, that attack the fruits making the tree look ugly to casual observer possibly making him to cut down the whole tree in his ignorance.
The roots are the values and reasons one has to learn and keep on growing.
Getting waaaaay too deep thinking here, but I also think competition, like UFC is the wind, that removes weaker branches, but If the trunk is strong makes the tree stronger.
This last one might get me into trouble, but people sensei Ramsey are bees, taking a little from tree, by making us drill things we find in our lack of knowledge pointless, but also spreading the seed through internet in hope making some little trees pop up through the Globe.
No, I wasn't under the influence of mind altering chems while typing.
The best analogy I've heard on the subject is this. The techniques are the tools; the delivery system is the toolbox.
If you give a craftsman a new tool, he'll know where it belongs in his toolbox. Give him a Phillips head screwdriver and he'll go, "Ah yes, this goes with the other Phillips head screwdrivers, between the one that's bigger and the one that's smaller." or, "Ah yes, this will replace this particular size screwdriver that I already have because it's better." or, "Nice screwdriver bro, but I've got a Phillips head in the same size that works better for me." *
Or you can give the same screwdriver to a non-craftsman and he'll go, "Thanks bro!" then put it away some place he'll promptly forget.
Learn how to fight first (the delivery system; the toolbox), only then go chasing after weird esoteric tools to put in it.
* Related to this, you will not find a craftsman who organises his tools by colour or age or brand or by the store they were bought in. They all organise their tools into types, then by size. Similarly, all effective fighters have some similarities (effective punching is going to look a lot like boxing, effective groundwork is going to look a lot like BJJ etc.).
Really liked this video Ramsey. Was glad to hear you explain the difference between training in multiple different arts for a long period of time and mma of mixing all into one of the art of fighting. I also love it when you breakdown street fighting. I've never competed in competition in anything. Nor have I ever wanted to fight anybody in the streets. I have had to break up a few fights and only two people I've ever hurt in my life was only to protect me or my family and that's it. I will say really quickly finishing up here the last one where I had to run a drug addict off that person did try to clinch up so I stopped that after a few seconds of that by sweeping that persons legs from under them and getting on top them. Have a good day sir.
Hey Master Dewey...What's up ?! Another Wrestling question, well more of a Request... Please tell a story of a time when a Wrestler came to a Gym you were at and Dominated everyone, making them question their own fighting skills. I LOVE Stories like that..
Thanks.
Wouldn’t mind watching that
How fast can you "black belt level skill" (expertise in a particular art) in a perfect environment?
I was laughing at an "elite camp" ad that promises a black belt in karate in less than 6 months for a mere $2000 donation, but it got me actually thinking about this question. If you have an actual camp, where you work out, train, and otherwise focus on nothing but learning your art for a length of time, how long would it take a beginner to get to that level of skill? My thought was a minimum around 24-30 months or so, but if you have thoughts I would enjoy them!
That would vary a lot from person to person. You can't guarantee any level of skill in a given amount of time if you don't know the person and their athletic background.
But in a wild guess I would say 1 year is the minimum amount of time, all conditions being favourable
I think the 10,000 hours to master a skill estimate is about accurate, but each of those hours have to be well spent. You can have been doing a combat sport for 10 years and still suck at it because you never put in serious time
What do they call it uhhh Uchi Deshi? I know some styles of karate had or do still offer this style of training which can elevate you to that rank expediently but as was said it will be a very very brutal period of time. I’d say 600-900 days would be sufficient, 600 days without time off and 900 with maybe one day off a week.
It depends mostly on how many hours you spend training. Through my experience and trying to gauge how long it took the black belts I know or people I know of to get to the skill they're at I would say in the range of 600-1,000hr range. With 600 being on the very least and 1,000 being the very most. So around 800hrs is a good sweet spot.
Ramsey Dewey will definitely go down as one of the best Martial arts/ Life philiosophers ever.
Tell me I'm not the only one who saw coach Ramsey Dewey with hair plus the moustache in his Instagram. Looks cool, bring back the 'stache please
After watching this I'm not sure if my approach is wrong or right. I'd like to learn how to be competent in all areas of fighting. As you mentioned, Punching & Kicking, Clinch, Position & Footwork, Wresting, Framing & Hand Fighting, Takedowns, Breakfalls & Getups, Pins & Control, Grappling Offense & Defense.
One thing Icy Mike said in a Hard2Hurt video that resonated with me was "You need to be really amazing at one specific thing, and good enough at everything else to funnel people to that."
I've only just started BJJ(literally 2 classes) but my plan was to start by trying out BJJ & Muay Thai, eventually learning some Judo to bridge the two, then supplement Boxing into my Striking and Wrestling into my BJJ and expand on Ground Fighting & Takedown defense.
Figure out what I'm best at in time and go from there in a year or two.
Great answer. Fighting is fighting, style is just artificial subset of fighting. The entire style thing should really go away.
Yes, I totally agree, finally someone with a deep enough and authoritative enough voice says it!
Mr. Dewey this is a question of the utmost importance Should a Jedi rely so heavily on a lightsaber or whoud it be more beneficial for them to master all aspects of combat as they do the lightsaber
Ramsey, thank you for your channel! I've had great admiration for MMA even though I'm truly a TMA practicioner: Wing Chun, and Kyokushin Karate. Now, I'm mostly focusing on Krav on the self defense side, and been doing a little boxing. I know nothing as far as grappling goes and being in my 40's I don't know if it makes sense learning it now.
Based on my age, could it be too late to learn BJJ or Wrestling? Body's not what it used to be.
P.S. The Krav school I attend is a good one with experienced ground and striking instructors. Just in case you throw a jab at it :-)
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As ever, straight and logical explanation, clear and simple, as indeed, fighting should be. Simple with the clear goal of victory. Big up to the coach.
Great video 👍 I hadn’t seen many people ask this, but what are some drills or things I could do to improve foot work. I have a skill ladder and I use that for about 45 minutes doing different movements and patterns to become lighter on my feet. I’m 5’11, 16 years old, and weigh 140 flat. And i am going to become an MMA fighter in the future, and have been training in Muay Thai for probably 8 months now with some American boxing mixed in between (just the very basics of it) but I still find that I have trouble with the positioning of my feet.
Every striking technique has specific footwork that will allow you to set up and land your strikes. If you want to improve your footwork learn the techniques you intend with their proper footwork rather than striking out of context.
Thanks coach, I’ll keep that in mind for tomorrow’s training 💪🏼
I understand your point and was shocked. Then, what will be one of the best ways of become a better figther. I know the best is doing it. I consider myself a traditional MA, but i want to improve
My Tai Ji instructor emphasised on the fundamentals of positioning, framing, grappling and also taught the fundamental strikes from Southern Pray Mantis.
People with strong fundamental skills can be great dancers too as they have an in depth understanding of body mechanics.
I have many blue belts green and purple... A few browns... Brown always comes back in fashion, I have 3 Blackbelts for Weddings and Funerals.
I like to color coordinate my belts with my Clothes.
I have a clothing line based on the GI, Ninjas and Samurai styles .
I get so many looks when I go out, it's great.
makes me think of what karate nerd said, when you see it, pause it or slow it down, you see traditional stances or movement in frames
Like that lava you use about thai boxing!! Concept!
One striking art and one grappling art all ya needs
Hey, Ramsey! Could you make video on basic speedbag drills for beginners? :)
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Learn these movements first, then I can give you some drills.
Do you watch what you eat as a fighter. I love your channel 👍.
When I was fighting professionally, I didn’t have much money and couldn’t afford much food. I watched what I ate quickly disappear and had hunger for dinner on a regular basis.
Now, if you’ve got disposable income, then of course you need to be disciplined about what you eat. Stick to Whole Foods, avoid garbage.
@@RamseyDewey thank you for your reply keep up the awesome work on you channel 👌.
True fighting is Master Ken's Ameridote philosophy
Yes sir that's definitely a well ingredients for a good fighter
Thanks sir
would it be ok to do muay Thai for 6 months then add in jiu jutsu as well? I have a background in wrestling already so I think I'd be well versed in jiu jutsu as well, currently just starting in Muay Thai so I'm obviously going to give it some time.
Thank you for reminding me why I'm bummed too many places don't offer MMA classes.
It is possible make your own combanation or strieker and grappling ?
Muay thay - bjj
Kick boxing - judo
Boxing - wrestling
Hey Coach, could you take a video of a fight and do a slow-mo breakdown of different stuff you see and notice? Thanks
That depends on copyright issues
@@RamseyDewey I know TH-cam sucks on copyright, but if you added commentary that would be technically fair use.
Bob Koshy not necessarily. I have received copyright strikes for less than that.
What is the difference between pull ups and chin ups? What muscles do they work and what is a neutral grip pull-up?
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I feel mr. Dewey and his students are like those movies when the student doesn't understand some training from his master and in the end he realizes how important that was 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💚💚❤❤❤ great video full of important stuff thanks ❤❤💚💚
A very beautiful, versatile yet one answer. Thank you Optimus Prime! 🙏🏼❤️
Good video! The goal is to learn the art of fighting - unarmed hand to hand combat.
hey ramsey, you made a questionnaire about what fight scenes you should review in the ficticional fights videos you've made, are you still gonna do that or have you decided to drop the series
Yep. I’m still going to do it. I’ll be traveling without internet access for a while though, so I’m not sure when.
Man this is very true , I feel like the most important aspect of fighting is positioning and footwork, and distance control. Every martial art has them and then every technique is branched of from there. You need footwork to get into a position where you can strike an opponent and they can’t strike you or to take someone down and grappling is all positioning, what’s that BJJ saying? “position before submission”.
I would like to ask than is that the best way to train MMA from the mindset of the right body position(stance, ground position) and the best footwork taking into account the distance and build the techniques from there? You can punch and kick at a certain range, grapple at a certain range etc.
Get good at one art 1st as a base, then you can study mix martial arts and train in other styles.
The world's best Muay Thai Fighters trained in Boxing. I have Wing Chun and Muay Thai as my base and added Boxing, BJJ ,Teakwondo and created my own style.
I've spent a few years per style on a few styles over my time in martial arts. This was because they gyms I went to closed down or I moved to a diff'rent area and didn't couldn't find a decent teacher in the styles I already knew. Nowadays I'm learnin' zui quan and I'm hoping to be able to find a decent Gracie teacher. People often laugh at me learnin' taiji and zui quan, but I learn styles I enjoy. Taiji is great for grounding yourself and as a warm up or warm down. Zui Quan is good for working your flexibility during some training and thinking outside the box. Even the worst styles can teach you something, but I've just never really been interested in Systema myself and I've never found a Capoeira fighter to help me w/ gymnastics.
"Watch an mma fight"
*Proceeds to watch Yoel Romero vs Israel Adesanya*
Alright coach, now I know how to fight!
Can't wait for a video on the speed bag :)
I talk about this same Topic when discussing the Martial Arts & Fighting. It's meant for Lethal Competition. Skillful @ Fighting is a good description. Train as a basis for matters in @ least some Martial Art so that there are the Fundamentals. Keep adding tools to the toolbox. Expand your Mind and self-actualize. Don't be limited by "Sport" but understand the totality.
This is easily the best, clearest, and most succinct explanation of why trying to fill a toolkit with techniques from here and there is misguided. A fighter would be better off studying their next opponents fights and figuring out how to counter their strengths. Practicing ways around them.
It really is just that simple.
Not everyone can be batman
Coach Ramsey can you explain Mayweather-esque pitter-patter boxing bag work I think it has some use But I can’t really find it
Question of many questions: after your comments about various traditions and their seemingly practical or esoteric natures, it got me wondering... Would you say there was such a thing as common and uncommon martial arts?
When digging through the historical fencing world, you come across the idea that there were common and uncommon methods, the former being a more natural and basic approach and the latter being more focused on honing less natural actions often specifically designed to outwit what Basic Instinct wants your opponent to do. How do you feel this correlates to the unarmed martial world, if at all, and what would be some shining examples in each field? In particular, the idea that there could be specific methods to "common" fighting intrigues me, not unlike the two weeks of sabre a soldier might receive versus the years of classical fencing others would dedicate themselves to at the same time.
I'm rambling, you should just dive on in. Thanks
Makes me think of Prince Nasim Hameed's boxing style,
Just as a suggestion when the time comes that you do the breakdown- would be really cool if you could show the framing in sparring, to aid in seeing it in action against another person, since that’s a large component of hand controls.
When i was young i bhelieved the idiot myth that boxing was inferior to martial arts, now i realize its much better than most, since all that talking is replaced by punching the hell out of each other, in my opinion fighting is more effective for fighting than talking about a fight, i was such a snobish idiot it makes me cringe, your the one who convinced me muhamid ali would beat bruce lee.
it get you fit in the process, so the other styles and any other sport or life obstacle becomes easier to do
HOW you teach techniques is often more important than the techniques you're teaching. Karate has a vast compendium of techniques that, if mastered, could be employed against a master boxer very effectively. However, few Karate dojos teach in ways that allow for the proper deployment of their techniques in the context of a live fight; whereas nearly all boxing gyms spend more time letting you practice actually using techniques in live sparring/fighting. The Muay Thai gym I attend hosts a Karate Sensei who teaches his own students there twice per week. After a Muay Thai class I once stuck around to watch a Karate class because I thought there was so much I could learn. After the first THIRTY MINUTES all they had done was meditate, talk, listen to the sensei talking, then practice shadow boxing one specific technique in a fashion that was SO ultra robotic and so over-the-top-fast that i couldn't imagine them every pulling it off in sparring they way they had practiced it. The technique was valid, but they were just doing it at hyper speed with a rigid stance that allowed no mobility, and they never tried it with each other. I feel like if they taught the same stuff, but the way my coaches teach it, they could be much better fighters.
Now my teacher only teaches Silat, hapkido, Muay Thai, and BJJ. But has black belts in karate, tae kwon do, kajukenbo, as well as experience in kendo along with everything I listed. But he applies everything he knows to the first 4 arts I listed, is that a good way of going about it?
For next Q&A; suggestions for how to think about and practice positions in striking? Just experience based with light sparring or do you drill punch selection at certain angles?
Honestly learning different styles came in handy for me. I've done Japanese ju jitsu, judo, bjj, mauy thai, krav maga and kyokushin karate. When I see people wearing hoodies or jackets even baggy cloths I use it as a gi and it works for throws. Bjj helped my ground game and krav helped me hammer fist and dirty fighting yes I kick and punch nuts elbow throats etc and mauy thai and kyokushin helped me fight both distance and go toe to toe.
I think it was you who was asked about a base style. I figured a while ago the best. ," base ", could be mma. But that wasn't quite right. The true base, is just FIGHTING like you say.
Thank you so much for this video, by far your best one. It really made me realize I was that guy. I'm not cohesive but expect it. I think it's time I embrace an MMA Gym and stop beating around the bush by training individual arts.
Well all but gracie combatives lol that one is different. MMA gym and gracie combatives on the side. That will be my goal.
I'll save money too.
How to deal with shin splits from training kicks/ shin conditioning?
In "real life" you also may not want to get a fight end on the ground rolling around with someone and waiting for some Referee to quit the fight for submission.
Even MMA is a sport, not the "reality".
In a real fight,a guy might pull a weapon on you.I personally like to train for the sake of training and not preparing for the streeeeetz
Right. Same here.
I just do not like this "MMA is more realistic"-talk, because it allows more.
It is still a combat sport with restrictions and rules and not a "real fight". And like every combat sport, it makes you do things, you really want to avoid in a "real fight" or "self defense".
I still want mma with soccer kicks and strikes to the spine
There was one guy in my country that kill 2 Punk armed with Sickles with his bare hand. He trained under Silat Jokotole, kill 2 armed guy but I dont think he will survive in MMA Fight.
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OneFC and Rizin allow soccer kicks. The old UFC's used to allow strikes to the spine before having to "clean up" for mainstream appeal.
Mr Dewey, how long do you think someone should practice a Martial Art to teach a certain style? I want to be a professional teacher, but do I need to learn the entire system to teach something? How much should one trist a teacher that teaches a lot of different styles?
I like the clinch game . it looks boring but probably the most important thing before the fight is broken up . just clinch and holler really tough sounding stuff .
I am wanting to learn 3-4 different styles simultaneously... Krav Maga, Judo, Hapkido, and maybe Kali/Escrima. I figure that since krav already uses a lot of different styles, I could use it as a base in order to adapt other styles to it and it should mesh together seamlessly
another good video!. One thing, and it can be a bad thing, with having your first experience in training being traditional karate, is that you get this "Style" mentality. The differences between Karate Styles are generally very small, and outside the Karate scene, nobody cares that the stance for a Karate Style is shorter in one style than in another. Another, possibly worse thing, is that you get an atomic view of techniques. While it is often useful to learn a technique by breaking it down into tiny steps, Karate does this too a fault and you can become a perfectionist at performing each tiny step. In fact, you may get the mentality that this is how techniques ought to be taught and analyzed. I didn't realize how strange this way of looking at this is until I took around a Boxing class. Sure they need to break stuff down, but it is not broken down to the degree that I experience in Karate classes.
Why aren't there more schools that teach a fully integrated MMA system like the system Greg Jackson created? It seems like it's pretty hard to avoid taking 2 or 3 martial arts a la carte in order to be a well rounded fighter.
I would guess because it’s a relatively new sport
But Greg Jackson’s system is not fail proof either
Fighters of his have been defeated by Fighters with rather specialized abilities - keep that in mind
One needs to train to transition into any of the 5 basic offensive and 5 defensive types at any given moment. Thank you.
Can you list all 5 Chris. Clinch, Striking, Ground and what else?
@@seetsamolapo5600 I was thinking more of the five methods of Attack from Bruce Lee's book, Tao of Jeet Kune Do, namely Simple angled Direct Attack, Progressive Indirect Attack, Broken Rythm Attack, Immobilization Attack, and Combination Attack.
@@seetsamolapo5600the five methods of Defense I got from Superfoot Bill Wallace, blocker, backward runner, evasive runner, Charger and combination defender.
What are some of your favorite grappling channels? I like watching judo, wrestling, and some submission stuff. I like the slams the most though. Great fun to wrestle and slam and get slammed lol
How much time should you spend training different aspects of fighting?
I imagine training striking and ground fighting at roughly equal to each other and takedowns a little less being the best. So striking/clinch 35-25%, ground fighting 35-25%, and takedowns 40-30%. Just curious to see what you think.
The idea behind my stack is that you have adaquate takedown defense and takedowns but your main focus is being able to stay on your feet and being able to squirm out and protect yourself/ turn the situation around should you get taken down.
Real fighting does work on percentages, especially in a real world situation where there are no rules, as various things can occur unexpectedly at any time. Anyone who thinks such works only on percentages will only concentrate on things with the highest percentage, leaving them vulnerable to the other things.
the oblique kicks from savate look exactly like the tan gerk and bong gerk kicks from wing chun Silva used in MMA. but only Jones kicks work because they have a different style name attached to it? that´s just silly.
Can't wait to see the Jack Dempsey speedbag pattern video.
This is why I like Hapkido so much compared to other MAs, including MMA. If you go to a genuine and dedicated teacher, you learn it all. striking, grappling weapons, and techniques such as striking the groin (and other sneaky tactics)or going against multiple opponents at once. Some people actually don't like Hapkido because they see it as "dirty fighting". There's a reason why it is so well liked by military professionals.
Hapkidõ is a good example of an effective comprehensive art (depending upon the school), as are other arts like Ninjutsu or Japanese jūjutsu (again depending upon the school), or arts like Silat and FMA; as each of these has tactics to deal with a variety of attacks and situations.
Master Ramsey, is Taekwondo a MMA art since it combine Karate Shotokan and Taekkyon in its system?
MMA is the name of the sport of cage fighting. It’s not a style of martial art.
@@RamseyDewey Thank you Master Ramsey
If the question had not been about "MMA":
There are some styles that are working better for "crosstraining", because they already have similarities in stances, footwork and movement. For example Kyokushin and Muay Thai is very compatible because of the square stance tactics, while Shotokan Karateka oder Taekwondoka may find the combination with Savate more interesting, because of hookkicks and sidekicks.
If you were the teacher, would you be upset if a student bring something from a diferent martial art?
@@murilor1602: No, I am not.
But it depends on what I teach, when there is the right time to look into it.
I have a Black Belt in Kyokushin Karate. If I train people in Kyokushin, I need them to do kicks and punches for the requirements of this system.
If I train people in "open kickboxing lessons", which I do more often actually, I show them myself different things, since I always crosstrained in "Dutch Kickboxing" and Muay Thai myself and there is more room to try things from Taekwondo, Savate or other striking arts.
So if they come up with something and want to try it in sparring: Sure, why not?
@@FredKuneDo thank you
@@murilor1602, but something to consider: Sometimes, I want students to concentrate on the "basics" I show them, before they try fancy stuff. For example it does not make sense if they come up with a complicated combo they have seen, but they still have problems with basics.
@@FredKuneDo I agree. I was thinking if I am used to do this way.
If I train kickboxing then try muay thai, would the teacher be mad if I confuse the stances?
I'm blessed to live in CA. So I've scene it all. I break up my Martial Path by the seasons. SPRING/SUMMER = Wing Chun, Shaui Juai, and Lameco Eskrima. Fall = Muay Thai & Balintawak. Winter = Boxing & BJJ.
Ramsey, I thought youtube was blocked in china. Do you use a vpn?
Yep.
can someone explain what he means by frames in boxing??
I start doing jiu jitsu the 10th og august, on mondays and wednessdays, should I start doing Brasillian jiu jitsu at the same time? (Thuesdays and thursdays with no gi fridays) or will it confuse me when learning/wear me out?
Bruce Lee described 1 simple angled direct attack,2 progressive indirect attack,3 broken rhythm attack,4 immobilization attacks,5 and combination attack. Superfoot Bill Wallace described the defensive types of fighters. 1 The evasive runner,2 The backward runner,3 the blocker, 4 The charger, and the combination fighter.
Ive been doing martial arts for. Very long time but never too long for a single art... Ive tried bjj, sanda, ninjutsu, sipalki, karate, boxing, wushu, etc... And i found out that i like to crosstrain in similsr arts at the same time... Right now im doing sipalki, wushu nd ninjutsu at the same time... All 3 have grappling, striking and weapons... But wushu competes in sanda and pointstyle, sipalki competes in pointstyle and chaiuderyon(basically mma without low kicks or punches to the face(you can hit the top and sides of the head, just not the face)
And ninjutsu has gotonpos(basically milsim airsoft but with swords and shurikens... You are technically allowed to strike and grapple but weapons make it harder to happen) and i find myself using the slight difference in those styles as an advantage in each others competitions...
Hey Ramsey, got a question for you . I'm a 17 yo male, in decent shape and I recently started doing MMA and Muay Thai. I train three times Muay Thai every week and twice in MMA ( with one hour training sessions), and I've had many of my relatives tell me that it's too much and that I'm going to get hurt in the long run. Is it really ? Should I train less often ? Thanks for your answer
Train more, focus on technique, i train 3-4 hours a day, eat well and rest well, always stretch and keep the sparring light, avoid compound lifting the same muscle groups two days in a row, now get out there and train!
Depends how you train. If you're training full contact striking that entire time you'll accumulate a lot of damage but if you're mostly going light and only occasionally going heavy contact to keep you grounded in reality then you're probably fine
I do believe all the knife hand and spear hand and mantis back hand aren't strikes but like frames or means of moving your forearm into a strike or a parry. Would love to see more videos of Interpreting old techniques and mythbusting their applications and demonstrating their real applications