Republicans exposed for adopting Trump's gaslighting tactic to avoid harsh political realities

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  • Rachel Maddow talks with Steve Benen, MaddowBlog editor and author of "Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past," about how Republicans have grown increasingly comfortable simply denying inconvenient facts or constructing false histories to avoid having to deal with being associated with unpopular policies and events.
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  • @bryanmachin3738
    @bryanmachin3738 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +723

    This is why it is usually completely pointless to argue with Trump supporters.

    • @PointofConnection
      @PointofConnection 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ultimately, truth really comes down to your experience. Mainstream media manipulate facts. For example, Harris hid joe's condition. IF she has done that, then What else has she hidden? How do you explain to yourself even that event?

    • @whisper_dvm5157
      @whisper_dvm5157 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

      Yes! My family are all Trump supporters and there is literally no way to have a productive conversation if you can’t agree on basic facts of reality. I can show them very nonpartisan/neutral sources and they will say it’s liberal fake news. It’s beyond frustrating

    • @johnq.public7019
      @johnq.public7019 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      unfortunately some of people will believe Trump didn't say that. You would have a more intelligent conversation with a one year old child than a Trump supporter.

    • @D0NNY-JAMES
      @D0NNY-JAMES 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@whisper_dvm5157 what neutral sources are you referring to?

    • @JN-Bellicose
      @JN-Bellicose 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

      ​@@D0NNY-JAMES Facts Donny. Facts are neutral.

  • @bhrondapinder4091
    @bhrondapinder4091 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +299

    Gaslight as if it wasn’t broadcast to millions and recorded!
    We’re all getting a lesson on the audacity of folks who just serve up lies!

    • @lightwillprevail
      @lightwillprevail 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Especially corporate media!!

    • @theinsaneshecklador6598
      @theinsaneshecklador6598 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      And somehow it works on nearly half the country.

    • @cameronmcleod8419
      @cameronmcleod8419 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@theinsaneshecklador6598 Like hypnotism, it works only on people who want to believe it.

    • @KarmaOfBelle
      @KarmaOfBelle 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@theinsaneshecklador6598I hardly think MAGA is half of America

    • @Milesco
      @Milesco 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@KarmaOfBelle Well, the polling numbers show that Trump and Harris are in more or less of a dead heat. So yeah, except for the few undecideds still out there, Trump and his minions have managed to bamboozle about half the country.
      It's extremely disturbing, but it is what it is.

  • @jamesstaal8466
    @jamesstaal8466 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +205

    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final most essential command." - George Orwell, "1984"

    • @t-10ten10
      @t-10ten10 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      So true and ahead of time!

    • @briancostich4288
      @briancostich4288 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      I was going to quote the same thing. They GOP wants you to forget about how everything really happened and fall in line.

    • @Apfle_3.1415
      @Apfle_3.1415 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “Good people on both sides” means he’s a racist
      -You guys, on the left
      “She was never the border Czar”
      -You guys still, on the left
      “We never said it would grant immunity”
      -Leeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeft

    • @alenaadler8242
      @alenaadler8242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Apfle_3.1415you do realize you are attributing truthful quotes to their sources, yes? 😅

    • @amberlisa7365
      @amberlisa7365 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@t-10ten10no, right in our time.

  • @jamescarlyle5083
    @jamescarlyle5083 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +324

    And the journalists must take some responsibility for repeatedly NOT challenging these lying politicians.

    • @PSA78
      @PSA78 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      Exactly, I heard an interview with a politician who made remarks after a loss. The reporter asked why this wasn't brought to their attention before the election, to which he got the reply: It's up to you as a reporter to listen, ask relevant questions and let the answers be heard, instead of just chasing viewers.
      I can't even stand to see debates, it's like a game show were you only get points from answering quickly and as loud as possible. 🙄

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The thing is, they're NOT JOURNALISTS!!! Working on a cable news program does not make you an investigative reporter, it makes you an on air presenter. The problem is that Americans refuse to learn the distinction between the two.

    • @mikephalen3162
      @mikephalen3162 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      The journalistic concept of "objectivity" and the method of treating each side equally, giving "he said/she said" reporting, are no longer relevant. The media have failed to hold politicos accountable for what they say. Part of the problem is the lack of interviewing skill, part of the problem is the lack of knowledge. It's difficult to hold Trump's feet to the fire if you don't have the facts at your command to rebut him on the spot.

    • @terrellcuevo2369
      @terrellcuevo2369 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ABSOLUTELY!!

    • @candycandy5810
      @candycandy5810 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can't stand watching these 'journalists" ---coddling these liars and not asking even obvious questions or they won't have access---we all lose

  • @lewisduffy675
    @lewisduffy675 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +686

    "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell

    • @D0NNY-JAMES
      @D0NNY-JAMES 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Kind of like when Kamala switched her policies overnight!!

    • @curtisevans4100
      @curtisevans4100 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

      @@D0NNY-JAMES she switched some policies but she didn't tell up is down

    • @AnimuncuIus
      @AnimuncuIus 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

      ​@@D0NNY-JAMES Yes. Policies changes. Trump is calling for the suspension of the constitution buddy. They are not even remotely the same thing.

    • @titichartay7216
      @titichartay7216 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Donny has just demonstrated the Orwellian grip Trump & MAGA has on it's cult perfectly.

    • @lewisduffy675
      @lewisduffy675 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

      @@D0NNY-JAMES Not at all like that, no. The point sailed right through your empty noggin I'm afraid...What a surprise! ;)

  • @mroctober3657
    @mroctober3657 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +402

    JD Vance treats women like furniture. And, apparently, treats furniture like women.

    • @MayorWillieBrown1992
      @MayorWillieBrown1992 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I treated kamala exactly like what she is.

    • @cathysisneros4076
      @cathysisneros4076 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Lol😂😅

    • @mac888spectral7
      @mac888spectral7 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      That dude would 'eat' the leg off a chair 🪑

    • @ShawnMicheldeMontaigne
      @ShawnMicheldeMontaigne 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Vladimir Futon.

    • @ShawnMicheldeMontaigne
      @ShawnMicheldeMontaigne 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dixonmopar2129 SHLOSHA!-SHLOSHA!-SHLOSHA!-SHLOSHA! (The sound of your devoted work on Putin's tiny pee-pee.) Be sure to wipe your chin afterward, comrade.

  • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
    @andrewwmacfadyen6958 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +114

    All these tactics are straight from Germany from 1920 to 1945

    • @Jilla0559
      @Jilla0559 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s why we wondered all those years How Germans let the Holocaust happen

    • @crisnmaryfam7344
      @crisnmaryfam7344 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      project 2025 is straight out of hitlers playbook.

    • @katwalkable
      @katwalkable 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also Orwells book 1984 describes Doublespeech and Doublethink. Work to believe night is day, black is white, lies are truth if Trump or MAGA says so.

    • @joycej9415
      @joycej9415 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Definitely, I justvread it, scary as hell!​@crisnmaryfam7344

  • @TruthfromanAlien
    @TruthfromanAlien 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +235

    5 signs of a cult
    -Require inordinate sacrifices and money from followers
    -Fanatically follow one person or belief system
    -Leaders punish doubts or questions
    -Leaders build their image on lies and may display narcissistic behaviors.
    -Members justify the leader's or group's actions regardless of how cruel, illegal or immoral.

    • @EricaGamet
      @EricaGamet 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@dixonmopar2129 No, that's a fandom. Very different.

    • @christal2641
      @christal2641 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      You forgot: Isolate members from families and friends who are not part of the cult.

    • @bryanmachin3738
      @bryanmachin3738 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

      6th sign of cult: pretending everyone NOT in the cult is in a different cult of their own.

    • @maryhilton9039
      @maryhilton9039 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best explained maggots oops I mean, MAGA to the T

    • @gemcan54
      @gemcan54 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MADURO HAS NOTHING ON THE CORRUPTION OF DEMOCRAT ELECTIONS. RUSSIA RUSSIS RUSSIA RACHEL IS TELLING US WHAT THE DEMS PLAN TO DO AND TO THROW IN A LOT OF ILLEGAL BALLOTS FROM NON CITIZENS. HILLARY WAS UP 10 POINTS, WOW SHE WILL NEVER BE HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY AGAIN.

  • @freetochoose6421
    @freetochoose6421 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +236

    After years of listening to trumps lies and hate, I will never believe anything trump says.

    • @Chrissy0316
      @Chrissy0316 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ll never believe the GOP again!. Sickening they’ve ruined the whole party following the 🤡

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dixonmopar2129 Lol, your cult leader has no policies. A stance is NOT a policy. Policy isn't made until you become president. Your cult leader hasn't been president for a long time.

    • @KaiserBlade
      @KaiserBlade 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who does Trump hate? He never put a BULLSEYE on anyone's back.

    • @freetochoose6421
      @freetochoose6421 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@KaiserBlade you obviously never actually listen to what he says.

    • @KaiserBlade
      @KaiserBlade 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@freetochoose6421 I knew you couldn't answer. None of you sheep ever do.

  • @deloceanophoto
    @deloceanophoto 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +197

    Not only things that we all remember… there is literally video footage of him saying “lock her up”, of magats beating police with a flag pole, of trump’s pitiful half empty rallies.

    • @bzdtemp
      @bzdtemp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In Trump world that is all AI fabrications.

    • @stephaniejames6672
      @stephaniejames6672 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And it wasn’t a mob who attacked the Capitol; it was Trump’s militias along with his supporters. Roger Stone worked to organize a paramilitary group to attack our democracy.

    • @REDEMPtZION316
      @REDEMPtZION316 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Find reality

    • @Gruin
      @Gruin 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ignorance can be fixed
      But Stupidity cannot be fixed..

    • @cindyhanmann2745
      @cindyhanmann2745 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This has now passed the realm of mere gaslighting into the land of serious make believe.

  • @catalinacurio
    @catalinacurio 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +142

    I’d like everyone who went to a Kamala rally to tweet trump that ‘I was there’. 😊🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💙💙💙

    • @conniewojahn6445
      @conniewojahn6445 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      donOLD's lackies would block the tweets pronto, but try anyway. Go for it.

    • @judithsmith9582
      @judithsmith9582 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Send it even if you weren't there!

    • @AndreaCuchetto
      @AndreaCuchetto 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Do you mean the rally for _Vice President Kamala Harris_ … the Democratic Presidential nominee?

    • @tullophile
      @tullophile 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@judithsmith9582 We don't need to lie in order to win. That is trump's play book tactic, not ours.

  • @d.k.9953
    @d.k.9953 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +296

    More poor decisions from the GOP to back Trump.

    • @patrisshajones4121
      @patrisshajones4121 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Our minds run on the same channel.

    • @dennisreed3382
      @dennisreed3382 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Best decision I ever made. When the left is gone, we get our country back.

    • @BerniBernsify
      @BerniBernsify 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Oh there's a new movement - Republicans for Harris. The video is on this channel - search Republican party worth saving

  • @nadyazify
    @nadyazify 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    That gave me the chills “ You just tell them, and they’ll believe you” that should be on his headstone..

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ... because I am *The LyinKING Lord of the Lies!!!* Hakuna Matatta!!

    • @whisper_dvm5157
      @whisper_dvm5157 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      That’s a conman’s shtick. Say a bald faced lie with enough confidence and many people will believe it.

    • @annalieff-saxby568
      @annalieff-saxby568 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I think that's the only thing Trump's said that deserves remembering.

    • @massimookissed1023
      @massimookissed1023 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      In a way he's not wrong.
      It works on a quarter of the population.

  • @LearnSpanishfromLocals
    @LearnSpanishfromLocals 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    I am a lifelong Republican and hated MSNBC for SO LONG... but when the "Zero Tolerance" Policy on the southern border hit the news, I saw a broadcast of Rachel Maddow (who I had villified in my mind) crying over the situation on air. I was so moved by the crisis situation, I had honestly never cared for immigrants but for whatever reason, I identified with those parents. For the first time in my life I started to examine why I had the feelings I did for Central and South Americans. Years later, I am typing this comment from a remote village in Argentina. I have been down here for the past 4 years. Rachel's humanity helped me find my humanity. I LOVE that she is as brutally honest as she is. I LOVE that she shows her love for a friend and colleague. I couldn't be a bigger fan. Buying this book for everyone I know!

    • @alenaadler8242
      @alenaadler8242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      Love prevails! Welcome home. I subbed your channel, I love learning languages to help me learn to understand and love other humans better. Can't wait to see what you do with your channel.

    • @jeannewallace-buckley347
      @jeannewallace-buckley347 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Bless you! Welcome to the light.

    • @WordSmooth
      @WordSmooth 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Wow, thank you for sharing your beautiful story! I believe in the power of heart-based truth, and now I have your evidence to support my belief! ❤

    • @Phuck_tRump-Humpers
      @Phuck_tRump-Humpers 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When I was 18, I traveled to my friend's rural village in Mexico. I ate beans and corn Tortillas for a week, went 💩 in the corn fields, and bathed out of a bucket.
      Her family gave me such a warm welcome, and were so wonderful. I felt like family.
      I would take that, over Donald Trump's vision for America, any day. 💙💙

    • @clairen4584
      @clairen4584 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Outstanding!! Means sooo much! 💜👍

  • @LarryGonzalez00
    @LarryGonzalez00 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +273

    When is Trump talking about his policies and not about skin color and crowd size?

    • @billtingting7106
      @billtingting7106 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Because he can't talk about Project 2025....it's a secret 🙊

    • @EVILOLIVE341
      @EVILOLIVE341 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      He won't talk about his policies because they're very unpopular he never mentions project 2025 or any of the things that he wants to do. But he messed up tonight speaking of abolishing the department of education

    • @syvanisrandomshit4406
      @syvanisrandomshit4406 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@MayorWillieBrown1992 you're also a troll spreading disinformation.

    • @tumix671
      @tumix671 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When you're only listening to media reports instead of listening to him live and unedited. If you really want to know about his policies, the quickest option would be to go to his website and read Agenda 47.

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dixonmopar2129said _"Why cant Kamala come up with her own policy ??"_
      There will be PLENTY of time for that after she is inagurated on Jan 20, 2025. Your cult leader has no policies. His Nepotistic administration ended long ago. He talks chit, but just makes chit up as he goes along.

  • @matthewloxton2570
    @matthewloxton2570 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    "Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"

  • @topat3
    @topat3 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Thank you Rachael Maddow for your excellent reporting! - I live in Michigan and I am voting blue up and down the ballot! 💙💙💙💙💙

    • @Doc5thMech
      @Doc5thMech 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@dixonmopar2129no release of 5,000 convicted terrorists in Afghanistan, no killing of 3 American soldiers in Yemen in first week in office, no repeat of the highest deficit in US history, no massive tax breaks for the wealthiest 1% of the population.

  • @mikecaetano
    @mikecaetano 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    "Instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness." --Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism" (1951)

  • @Guillermo12339
    @Guillermo12339 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Thank You, Benen and Maddow ! You perform an Essential National Service .

  • @glrasshopper
    @glrasshopper 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    So, how many Republican-led school districts have banned the book "1984"? This is one of the many reasons why banning books is a bad thing!

    • @Doc5thMech
      @Doc5thMech 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Most of the school districts in Florida.

    • @mikeskoog6689
      @mikeskoog6689 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      It was required reading when I was in school. Apparently time has changed???

    • @Gruin
      @Gruin 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Removing past history.

    • @VoltisArt
      @VoltisArt 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mikeskoog6689 can't redirect the future to become the worst parts of the past, if people are allowed to remember it.

  • @d.k.9953
    @d.k.9953 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +592

    How stupid does the GOP look for supporting Trump?

    • @kennysartwork5827
      @kennysartwork5827 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      how bad does MSNBC look for supporting Biden after the debate until Obama / Pelosi stopped supporting of Biden and got him out the door

    • @Pussies_For_Kamala
      @Pussies_For_Kamala 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Extremely & Thoroughly 😁

    • @chumpthetraitor7331
      @chumpthetraitor7331 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      V.E.R.Y

    • @gab4690
      @gab4690 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As stupid as you do for thinking you actually voted for Harris.

    • @bryanmachin3738
      @bryanmachin3738 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      To themselves they always look correct. That's kind of the point here isn't it?

  • @SamaNuttz
    @SamaNuttz 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +94

    He is delusional and always has been, he believes he is some sort of a God and what he says is gospel. Also, the fact he expects people to believe his alternate universe is very dangerous.

    • @claritapadilla7110
      @claritapadilla7110 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's exactly how fascism starts and he is doing exactly what Hitler did to Germany and people fell for it. We can not let him win!!

    • @craiganderson7986
      @craiganderson7986 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The fact that so many people actually believe his alternate universe is so much more dangerous!

    • @yurei8
      @yurei8 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I heard him say, with my own ears, that, "He has done more Christianity since Jesus.". This puts him above all the declared saints of the Christian religion.

    • @SamaNuttz
      @SamaNuttz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @yurei8 it's extremely scary in my opinion

  • @user-vt1qw3xo5o
    @user-vt1qw3xo5o 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    A superb report! Thank you, Rachel Maddow and Steve Benen!

  • @lindaburns2568
    @lindaburns2568 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    Thank you Rachel for being one of the few real journalists who knows how to deliver news

  • @florezjesse4739
    @florezjesse4739 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +213

    Joseph Goebbels play book, If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.

    • @1PaulG1
      @1PaulG1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Spot on … and trumps bed side reading book is Mein Kampf 😂😂😂

    • @PSA78
      @PSA78 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, they aren't even unique, it's basic fascism. I guess they could get a half point for adding religion to it so it's easy to sell in bibel waving Americans. 😂

    • @andrewwmacfadyen6958
      @andrewwmacfadyen6958 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      In the UK we have Nigel Farrage doing exactly the same

    • @raymondwehrmeister4344
      @raymondwehrmeister4344 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Not quite, literally, "It will become the truth."

    • @kjamison5951
      @kjamison5951 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don’t misquote Goebbels. Don’t misquote anyone. Verify the quote first, don’t accept it as fact.
      *Alleged quotation*
      The following supposed quotation of Joseph Goebbels has been repeated in numerous books and articles and on thousands of web pages, yet none of them has cited a primary source. According to the research and reasoning of Randall Bytwerk, it is an unlikely thing for Goebbels to have said:
      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. “
      Adolf Hitler put forward the idea of “große Lüge”, the “Big Lie” because he believed the German people would believe him as long as he kept repeating it.

  • @CarlLv
    @CarlLv 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    Gaslighting is the worst form of lying.

  • @user-pg1qh2py8t
    @user-pg1qh2py8t 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Fear comes from the lack of knowledge and a state of ignorance. The best remedy for fear is to gain knowledge"

    • @antoniahamilton3201
      @antoniahamilton3201 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Authoritarians require the submissive and the uneducated. And don't you dare try to inform the followers of that. It's simply unfathomable to them.

    • @whisper_dvm5157
      @whisper_dvm5157 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sadly at this point, you can confront them with facts and they won’t believe you. Everything outside of what FoxNews and their Dear Leader says is fake news.

    • @lazycatdayz4ever905
      @lazycatdayz4ever905 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@user-pg1qh2py8t agree that is why Kamala supporters need to watch, read, and learn all they can about this installed candidate. Take the emotion out of it. Do your research.

    • @PSA78
      @PSA78 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      They are a prime example of "Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity", Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote about it and described them to a tee close to a century ago. He also mentioned how the state and church must be separated, despite being a pastor himself. Now we have these Bibel Talibans... 🙄

    • @annalieff-saxby568
      @annalieff-saxby568 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "Knowledge is power".
      _Francis Bacon_

  • @helenjones1977
    @helenjones1977 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +107

    Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar. 💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 VOTE BLUE

    • @bryanmachin3738
      @bryanmachin3738 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Pants literally on fire!

    • @OlDarb94
      @OlDarb94 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All blue in my house

  • @gloriavann3561
    @gloriavann3561 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +99

    Liar liar! Lock HIM Up🔒🔒🔒🔒🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @wiseman7779
      @wiseman7779 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She is more lying than him

    • @alenaadler8242
      @alenaadler8242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wiseman7779​​⁠ how did posting that make you feel? All warm and fuzzy? Like Trumps special little boy? You know what you posted is not true but something compels you to post that anyway... What do you get out of your fantasy delusions? He doesn't care about you, he only cares about himself and what his billionaire and oligarch "friends" can do for him in a quid pro quo. Sit down and have a think, let yourself use that brain you've got. He was bad for the country and he was bad for you. Tak the L, it's okay to be wrong and to change your mind.

  • @nondescriptcat5620
    @nondescriptcat5620 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

    "His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." who is it?

    • @nadyazify
      @nadyazify 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts.

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who is DonOld Von ShitzInPants, aka *The LyinKING Lord of the Lies?*

    • @misspickles47
      @misspickles47 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@nondescriptcat5620 the Mango Pussolini, Done-Old t'Rump

    • @kathylech3872
      @kathylech3872 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hitler

    • @hks2377
      @hks2377 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      OSS (CIA predecessor) profile of Hitler. Trump is following the fascist playbook, & we don’t need to wait for the death camp stage to see it.

  • @lizbmusic11
    @lizbmusic11 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Im so grateful for all you dp Rachel. I live in New Zealand. Our media wont cover this. You are so refreshing. Never stop tellimg the TRUTH !

  • @mdavisscadedu
    @mdavisscadedu 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thanks to you, Rachel, I found the emails of members of the Georgia Election Board and wrote them asking them to remind local election officers that they do not have the right to refuse to certify results. Only one of the members, Mrs. Ghazal, seems to have taken a stand. I worry for her being a lone voice.

  • @Rmorrison12
    @Rmorrison12 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Very similar to a gaslighting abusive relationship

    • @sheribee831
      @sheribee831 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's why some of us saw the danger of Trump right away...we've been there
      and we're Not Going Back!!!

    • @VoltisArt
      @VoltisArt 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      No, not similar, SAME.

  • @JS-mt2te
    @JS-mt2te 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Freedom of speech includes the right to receive information, not just the right to say something. There is no free speech in America without fixing the problem of local access to fair comment, balanced reporting and alternative commentary.

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Alternative should be fact based. Tired of both sidesism when one side is the Flat Earth Society or astrology.

  • @user-kk2et7br9k
    @user-kk2et7br9k 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    Thank you for covering Trump’s GOP MAGA’s tactics for spreading “False Truths” & “alternative facts” strategies. Special gratitude for Steve Benen to write a book on this important topic on Trump’s LIES at a perfect time to do a book tour. This will help swing states to hopefully decide to vote BLUE up & down! 💙💙💙💙

  • @Liz-nu5dr
    @Liz-nu5dr 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Saw this report, immediately checked out the Audiobook, am listening to it now. Fascinating stuff, also a wake-up call to the complacent. Rachel Maddow's voice is good to listen to and she delivers the text well. Note: I'm a UK citizen, but this has lessons for us all, so thank you both.

  • @CBlargh
    @CBlargh 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Gaslight.
    Gaslight.
    Gaslight.
    Super weird!

    • @wiseman7779
      @wiseman7779 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nothing more weirdo than installing tampons in boys restrooms

  • @BMrider75
    @BMrider75 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    I've just finished Rachel's "Ultra" season 2 podcast. Very informative and should be compulsory listening for every voter in the US.
    We ignore the history at our own peril.

    • @kellir.747
      @kellir.747 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      When paired with the first season of the Ultra podcast, it sure is scary…

  • @emiliat.5881
    @emiliat.5881 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    They want you to be so tired of all the different stories that you give up caring!

  • @escottc
    @escottc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +38

    Ministry of "Truth Social"

  • @niclewis9610
    @niclewis9610 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    How many Trump supporters does it take to change a lightbulb? None. Trump just says he fixed it and they all stand around cheering in the dark.

    • @joannhaddock8003
      @joannhaddock8003 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      😂😂😂

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yep, just like he did with Covid, Healthcare, Infrastructure, and National Security Secrets, War plans, and Top Secret Classified documents. He used his mind and imagination.

    • @lazycatdayz4ever905
      @lazycatdayz4ever905 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@niclewis9610 are you better off now than you were 3 1/2 years ago? The top two issues most people are concerned about are the economy and the borders. Harris is in office NOW and does not need to wait to fix these issues. What has she done and what is her actual solution? She needs to speak to the American people and not just read the same teleprompter speech in each state. The situation our country is in is NOT A JOKE. Take the emotion out of it and think.

    • @FernandoHernandez-go5tz
      @FernandoHernandez-go5tz 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Need I remind you that Republicans refused to pass the BIPARTISAN border bill on trump's instructions even before they read the bill? Easy to say they did nothing but ignore how obstructionist the GOP has been.

    • @steve341
      @steve341 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lazycatdayz4ever905jYou sound like you are trying really hard to not sound dumb and like a dumb trumpy

  • @ralphsmith5871
    @ralphsmith5871 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    It sounds very Orwellian.

    • @t-10ten10
      @t-10ten10 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This!

  • @michaelh.sanders2388
    @michaelh.sanders2388 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Political forgetting is not a recent innovation.
    I'm still waiting for an explanation for Kent State.

  • @AndreaCuchetto
    @AndreaCuchetto 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    @RachelMaddow - Thank you for this essential reporting. I look forward to reading Steve Benen’s book (and have requested it for my local library).

  • @jolayneskoglund7615
    @jolayneskoglund7615 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    Tfg was slurring and lisping through the whole X interview

    • @lifewuzonceezr
      @lifewuzonceezr 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      No dentures

    • @lightwillprevail
      @lightwillprevail 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@lifewuzonceezryup, denture free lisping 😆

  • @erikxs
    @erikxs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    „People will just believe….“: thats the reason why dictators are so successfull! Switch on your brain, folks!

    • @lazycatdayz4ever905
      @lazycatdayz4ever905 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@erikxs yes, don’t accept the government installing your candidate for president without a vote by the people. Don’t believe propaganda. Do your research

    • @yourmomsbff7670
      @yourmomsbff7670 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The cognitive dissonance of this comment is insane

  • @BrattyBetty
    @BrattyBetty 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    If Trump 's losing that means Americans are winning 💙 VOTE !!

    • @gemcan54
      @gemcan54 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MADURO HAS NOTHING ON THE CORRUPTION OF DEMOCRAT ELECTIONS. RUSSIA RUSSIS RUSSIA RACHEL IS TELLING US WHAT THE DEMS PLAN TO DO AND TO THROW IN A LOT OF ILLEGAL BALLOTS FROM NON CITIZENS. HILLARY WAS UP 10 POINTS, WOW SHE WILL NEVER BE HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY AGAIN.

  • @davidjames2083
    @davidjames2083 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    *Thank goodness Rachel, I thought **_it was_** me!* 🤯

  • @lauriemesz1375
    @lauriemesz1375 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    VOTE PEOPLE....PLEASE VOTE

  • @1PaulG1
    @1PaulG1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I love your reporting Rachel ❤💙💙💙💙💙🙏🙏🙏

  • @Rockpaperscissors022
    @Rockpaperscissors022 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Because THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH IT. Thats the thing to change. That and education.

  • @martinrc80
    @martinrc80 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is in line with what Stephen Colbert discussed about Republican tactics called truthiness back in 2005. Nothing has as changed.

  • @Dont.Call.Me.Tall.
    @Dont.Call.Me.Tall. 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

    I like how Elon didn't question him about faking a helicopter crash in his head. 🤔

  • @mikecaetano
    @mikecaetano 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    "What a temptation to flaunt extreme attitudes in the hypocritical twilight of double moral standards, to wear publicly the mask of cruelty if everybody was patently inconsiderate and pretended to be gentle, to parade wickedness in a world, not of wickedness, but of meanness!" --Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism" (1951)

  • @user-di2on5gl2d
    @user-di2on5gl2d 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love listening to you ❤ Rachel. Very informative.

  • @kevincraighead6993
    @kevincraighead6993 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The willingness of certain Americans to just "believe" can be traced directly to their relgiousity.

    • @Dam-a-fence
      @Dam-a-fence 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, sort of.
      More like directly to their particular pastor.

    • @kdog2646
      @kdog2646 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Then what about the athiests?

    • @kevincraighead6993
      @kevincraighead6993 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kdog2646 atheist are individuals. We're not a club. Just so you know, being atheist is about one thing and one thing only...We are not convinced that a god exist. Therefore, we don't believe in God. That's it. Period. Everything else is up for grabs.

    • @kdog2646
      @kdog2646 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevincraighead6993 you seem to be a club. But you're being kinda two faced as being religious doesn't mean you are not an individual.
      And the fact you believe one thing doesn't mean you inherently believe in other things. False illogical beliefs are just something humans do.

    • @Dam-a-fence
      @Dam-a-fence 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kdog2646
      What about them? Someone betrayed their trust and faith in their neighbors. It was most likely some form of religious other person, like a pastor. Could be they came to it on their own, but that's not a typical human trait. Nothing can be discounted. Murphy's law.

  • @richardsnell2348
    @richardsnell2348 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I once taught a class of eight-year-olds. I saw one of the boys by the coatpegs dip his hand into the coat-pocket of a classmate and put some coins into his own pocket. I immediately told him what I had seen and he was to put the money back. He got angry, and told me firmly he was no thief and he hadn't taken anything. I asked him to empty his pockets, which he finally did, proclaiming the coins he brought out were his. I reminded him that I'd seen what he'd done, and he said, very angrily, that I hadn't seen it because he hadn't done it. I wonder what Trump was like as an eight-year-old.

  • @YouzTube99
    @YouzTube99 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    03:20
    What ever happened to cognitive dissonance?
    Or does being a willing member of a cult override that?

  • @mikecaetano
    @mikecaetano 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    "The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced ... but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist." --Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism" (1951)

  • @kstun1935
    @kstun1935 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Ask him again about him saying "lock her up" in regards to Hilary. Then when he says "I never said that" play all the videos of him saying it. Lets do this for each of his lies. Play it again and again.
    Country before party!
    🗳💙💙💙💙🇺🇲🌊🌊🌊🌊

  • @jimcallahan448
    @jimcallahan448 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Happened again in Elon Musk interview. Had law and order discussion ignoring:
    1. Central Park Five
    2. Jan. 6 Capitol police officers attacked and painfully wedged in door

    • @alenaadler8242
      @alenaadler8242 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also they discussed the economy and inflation without discussing corporate greed or his ridiculous tax kickbacks for his billionaire buddies. Even his tax-free tips proposal is actually a terrible idea that's going to bankrupt the government by allowing all sorts of rich folks to reclassify major parts of their income as tips and avoid taxes. Don't know why Harris isn't calling it out for the sham it is instead of jumping on a bad bandwagon.

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He insists no one died on Jan 6. The dead cops stopped existing for him.

  • @seanyoung9014
    @seanyoung9014 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is a classic tactic of scammers and con men. When you find the mark, don't tell a small and believable lie. Instead, you tell the most outlandish and easily debunkable lie possible. The reason being if they'll accept that, they'll be susceptible to pretty much anything.

  • @steve-onewm-o9297
    @steve-onewm-o9297 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    No "sugar coating" here, the GOP is nuts! Thanks a lot, Russia

  • @Dan-ud8hz
    @Dan-ud8hz 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    At this rate, watching the Grievances Only Party parade Declining Donald around his safe-spaces makes me think that by November, watching this presidential race will be like a screening of a new Weekend at Bernie's sequel. Really freaking weird how anybody around him could think that what they're doing is a good idea but I guess they haven't heard the news that the emperor wears no clothes. Joke's on them!

    • @krishadyn5211
      @krishadyn5211 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe their plan is to try to win, then put DonOld out to pasture via the 25th Amendment.

  • @RamessesIX
    @RamessesIX 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Like mud pies made from flat earth. 🤔

    • @nebtheweb8885
      @nebtheweb8885 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dixonmopar2129 I see your panties are still in a bind. You mad, bro?

  • @crisrockzz6892
    @crisrockzz6892 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Suspended Reality 😂😂😂

  • @eljook
    @eljook 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It is tragic that the GOP read "1984" and view it as a "how-to manual" and not as a terrible warning

    • @allthingswavy6420
      @allthingswavy6420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Guaranteed they didn't actually read the book.

    • @patkennedy2620
      @patkennedy2620 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They have banned it in schools!

  • @GINGERALERR
    @GINGERALERR 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Humpty Trumpty sat on a wall.
    Humpty Trumpty had a BIG FALL.
    And all the kings horses and all the kings men
    Voted blue and saved democracy.

  • @flynngames4703
    @flynngames4703 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    They are using the Jedi mind trick. If you wear the red hat, you’ve been tricked.

  • @kenjones102
    @kenjones102 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    So good that these tactics are being documented for future generations to study and look to for discernment.

  • @user-uq3lm2jg9i
    @user-uq3lm2jg9i 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Before 2025 was 1984

  • @colombomofo
    @colombomofo 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WOW! All Rachel Maddow segments are impressive, but this one is extraordinary. Thank you STEVEN BENEN.

  • @deborahneale7048
    @deborahneale7048 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    People will believe what they want to if they are given permission to do that even in the face of the facts.

  • @mihi4719
    @mihi4719 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    Trump for Prison 2024!

    • @lafayettemitchell9979
      @lafayettemitchell9979 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I agree ...20-24 years. behind bars.

    • @MetalRainbow999
      @MetalRainbow999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@dixonmopar2129...that's not..

    •  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NO! win the elction and move on u babys...im so tired of this guy and im so far right i might as well b german....u jin up charges that 50%+ ppl think its bs youll undermine the entire system...win and move on....woke mob at its pincacle...spoiled babys!

    • @user-pr7bw4ke4u
      @user-pr7bw4ke4u 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would be very nice. But he is immune. It is never going to happen. He sold top-secret, and the case got dropped. 2:01

    • @MetalRainbow999
      @MetalRainbow999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-pr7bw4ke4u he isn't immune to EVERYTHING. His other cases are moving forward look it up.

  • @Opihi575
    @Opihi575 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    GOP will have a long journey in recovering from the Orange Bozo!

    • @allthingswavy6420
      @allthingswavy6420 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Honestly, more than just the GOP will need to recover from the distrust that has taken hold over the past 9 years 😢.

  • @user-pw3qm9yb4x
    @user-pw3qm9yb4x 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    He has to sit in his interview with Elon because he can’t stand very long periods like he has to at his rallies. I think he’s losing his ability to walk and stand very well and he’s having other issues that would explain why he hasn’t done much lately.

  • @h20bp
    @h20bp 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It's Lost Cause mythology.

  • @TheQueenRulesAll
    @TheQueenRulesAll 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    They just dig deeper and deeper only to try worse and worse methods of conning people. Too bad they can not put all that energy and creativity toward working for the country instead of solely for themselves...smdh

  • @LouiseWallman
    @LouiseWallman 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hope the book does well. Persistent reality checks like this must continue just as relentlessly as the lies.

  • @steelguitarunionhall
    @steelguitarunionhall 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If Republicans had actually held a primary and forced Trump to debate Niki Haley, you may have caught the fact that he has clear dementia issues and is unelectable. Should have gone with Haley instead of the coronation Trump

  • @williamrogers8574
    @williamrogers8574 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Lock him up 😊

  • @adjamidestan7279
    @adjamidestan7279 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Nice to meet Steve! Bravo Rachel 🎉 As a European who appreciates woman leaders, this is why... they're goof balls 😂 vote Harris 🌊💙🌊 ... they're team players!

  • @LR-mh8hs
    @LR-mh8hs 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I feel unburdened by what has been. Bye-bye "Christian" trumpers. No more lies and hatred.

  • @yveeriksson7437
    @yveeriksson7437 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Don't believe your lying eyes!

  • @terrynance7554
    @terrynance7554 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Every audacious thing he did, said, implied or whatever is burned in my memory. Sometimes I wish I could wash all of that out but ultimately it is serving me as he and his cohorts bully forward.

  • @cherylbartlett-buettner4160
    @cherylbartlett-buettner4160 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think this method also essentially breaks down our sense of right and wrong.

  • @billrasmussen4716
    @billrasmussen4716 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Great job

  • @obscuripesnation8458
    @obscuripesnation8458 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What a strange tactic in a time when we can all google and re-watch all that recent history!

  • @richardhawes3374
    @richardhawes3374 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    The reason I believe people buy into the lies is because most are working hard to get by and don't read or listen to news. They don't keep up with politicians as they don't have time for it. I was this way. Some one could ask me who the governor was and I did not have a clue, there had been time where working 2 jobs I did not know who the president was. My job was to see my wife and kids were fed and had clothes to wear and a warm bed to sleep in. I did try to keep up, but it was not a priority. My family was.

  • @jandenijs7337
    @jandenijs7337 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    that's the GOP for you: Gaslight. Offend. Project.

  • @Bluewater9
    @Bluewater9 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    ⚓️💙🇺🇸 It’s a matter of time for Justice for every American citizen voting true blue ⚓️💙🇺🇸

  • @cyndaluclaire1801
    @cyndaluclaire1801 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It’s called “crazy making”. This is what abusive people do, they make you feel crazy, after awhile you start believing what they say is true and what u thought was true was just your imagination. You r the crazy one!

  • @tamaradiana2431
    @tamaradiana2431 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Rachel Maddow is the best!❤😊

  • @kangsa387
    @kangsa387 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Please stop calling Trump former or Mr. President but Mr. Liar - the liar president.

    • @fnjesusfreak
      @fnjesusfreak 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I prefer 45* - Forty-Five Asterisk

  • @MissRed92837
    @MissRed92837 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Everyone check your voting registration. It seems some counties and states changed the rules. We all want to be able to vote for Harris-Walz and have our votes counted! 🗳️🗳️🗳️

  • @jeannewilson5355
    @jeannewilson5355 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I remember trump telling people during a speech not to believe what you see or hear for yourself.

  • @lafayettemitchell9979
    @lafayettemitchell9979 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wait...mexico paid for the wall. What you mean he didn't finish it?

  • @SamSolasdonSaol
    @SamSolasdonSaol 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    And heavy on the side of the ol' gish gallop (which was his tactic the night of the debate). These cons are excellent at their craft.

  • @bonniedrasco8166
    @bonniedrasco8166 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Shameful, the world is laughing not just at him but all of you

    • @MetalRainbow999
      @MetalRainbow999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tell them this all the time...😂

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Keep making things up on behalf of the world.

    • @MetalRainbow999
      @MetalRainbow999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @redrick8900 it's been a well known fact that other countries have seen us as a joke because of Trump...for years..

    • @MetalRainbow999
      @MetalRainbow999 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@redrick8900 oh and because of you..

    • @redrick8900
      @redrick8900 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MetalRainbow999 Yeah that's a myth. What you are saying is that you are gullible and you don't travel.

  • @Tracy81258
    @Tracy81258 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    What documents were in all those “Top Secret” file folders he had scattered around his Florida home and who did he sell them to?

    • @justinriquier7689
      @justinriquier7689 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well joe had all strategic plans in an during Afghanistan and many suspected someone was feeding intell as secret ops were met with insurgency a.k.a a set up soooooo joe had no authority no clearance to uphold any of those documents period yet he is still free 😞