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- Rachel Maddow reviews the remarkably sparse qualifications J.D. Vance offers both as a campaign partner and as a potential vice president (and even a senator), and points out Vance's interest in changing the American system of government, which is the qualification that most appeals to Donald Trump, confident of a win.
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#RNC #JDVance #Trump
I'm still so confused on why the media keeps talking like Trump is a mastermind or making the decisions. 2016 Trump did not pick Pence, the Heritage Foundation did. Trump did not pick 3 Supreme Court Justices. Trump did not pick any federal judges. The Heritage Foundation did. Trump did not write Project 2025. The Heritage Foundation did. Trump did not pick Vance. The Heritage Foundation has made every single choice for Trumps campaigns and presidency, and they will continue to fo just that.
You got it friend, spread your word every day. THANKS!
Is that after birth behind your ears?
Very good point; absolutely correct.
The absolute truth.
Wow! Good point! 😠
It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled - Mark Twain
Oh, that's beautiful.
@@GFW-np5jx Whereas you believe that we're all...where?
@@GFW-np5jx if you own a home, check where you pay your property tax, that's the circle you're living in.
Total fools totally fooled by a totally corrupt histrionic drama Queen, Trump. So disgusting. 🤢
Which of us is the fool?
America, get money out of politics!! This ain’t democracy! Not even close!
And get the Russians out as well.
Exactly!!
Soros, Gates?
💯 That is the problem!!!
AMERICA HAS NEVER BEEN A DEMOCRACY.WE ARE A REPUBLIC ITS IN THE CONSTITUTION
Thank you, Rachel!
My Dad said - many years ago - that the US is the only country that went from infancy to senility without first going through puberty. I can't find where he got the quote from, but it has been jumping to mind lately. 😢
Sounds like a Will Durant quote possibly.
Uh, Carole, obviously, your dad was a smart dude and involved in govt. and national affairs. So much about your dad. You have any opinions of your own?
Victor Davis Hanson
@@conradbulos6164 It's not an opinion. She was wondering who said the quote that her dad had requoted. I don't know how you worked out so much about carolesaunders9890 dad when all she said was that he quoted someone else's quote.
Carole ...
"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." -- Oscar Wilde.
"I no longer think freedom and democracy are compatible:" Whose freedom is Peter Thiel talking about? It sounds like he is talking about his freedom to take away the rights other people.
Pretty much the reich-wing definition of "freedom". Freedom for me none for thee.
From the Party engaging in Lawfare and political show trials.
@@patriciamccormick9321 So the GOP. Trump is VERY guilty of everything he is charged with.
Peter Thiel is a perfect example of how money corrupts
LOL!!! Wow, I know we are fes
Yay for Diversity and Inclusion for friends of $Billionaires 🙄
Get money out of politics.
Maddow is friends with billionaires, in fact they pay her to lie to you
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At least those that are buying politicians without shame.
I have to admit that this woman frightens me…in a good way. The way she exposes the idiocy in the politics of this country is amazing. It further amazes me that people can honestly, in their little minds, say that she is “way out there.” If she is, then it is not a bad place to be. Rachel, keep up the good work.
She says whatever she's paid to. There is not a single belief in that head
You are very confused😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Money RULES in the U.S., not democracy!
conservatives are okay with it as long as the guys with money hate the right people
I thought we lived in a Republic?
@Ralph-mq1gx we do and so do they but they want to change it so desperately. They are the type of people that think if they tell a lie enough it becomes truth😂😂😂😂
Blame it on Citizens United.
@@krisrob648 The US democratically elects its representatives, and is therefore a representative democracy. Whether you like it or not.
In other words, Peter Teal purchased the Vice Presidential nomination for JD Vance.
He purchased the gov, of 2024 and beyond..
The way of American politics however refined it has become
Sounds like he is giving Trump a big donation to take Vance as running mate. Seems a set up for failure….
Thiel
Wait, you believe MSNBC reporting?
Per Peter Thiel's quote that "Freedom is not compatible with democracy" he means "freedom for billionaires to do as they please is not compatible with democracy" because democracies have those pesky rules and laws that consider, at least in theory, everyone equal. Thiel thinks he is some kind of superhman ordained by providence and should be treated like a demigod. Thiel, Musk, Trump - they are all narcissists. Their success, rather than being something that instills gratitude in them, makes them believe they are superior in basic dignity and worth than anyone else. They obviously are more talented. They obviously are more successful. But they believe this translates as superior intrisic worth.
Thiel and others are not more talented he is just way more obsessed about having money, huge thirst for power and has no conscience unlike the average human.
Exactly.
Good to know your accept the Christian principle of the dignity of every human being.
Perfectly said. I agree 100%.
@@tracymorgan5386
You are % right. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This is the ballot we get as a result of worshiping money.
or worshipping DEI. the first Trans-woman president. first Black, Asian , Trans , Intellectually impaired, and first to get the most money. Do not believe the lies of the other side.
Don’t know much about Vance but watched the Netflix movie about him. I always find it odd how the movie depicts his mother as a pill stealing nurse but when speaking as a politician blames her addiction on open borders. No mention of big pharma handing out OxyContin like it was candy.
According to the book that Vance wrote himself, he said that the reason his family was in such a sad state, was NOT due to Joe Biden, (as Vance said at that Convention) but because of other factors not related to Biden nor the Dems. So the statements told by Vance at that Convention (eg: blaming Dems and Joe for all BAD things) do not match what he said in his own book.
It's always someone else's fault.
He lies just like Trump, that’s why Trump picked him. Obviously he contradicted in his speech what he wrote in his own book regarding his mother’s addiction. Oh my!
Because it doesn’t fit the narrative?
@@jungleland7478 ---That's correct!
Here in New Zealand we still want to know why our government fast tracked Mr Thiel's NZ citizenship application. No reason was ever made public.
Money changed hands?
What's he done for NZ?
@@rob3539Nothing. He's bought a large property as his bolthole, so when the billionaires destroy other parts of the world, he can move here and be safe. It's disgusting.
@@thekapiticoasterand of course he didn't give up his Americsn citizenship - or did he?
@@ursibeutler It's not a legal requirement to give up other nationalities to be a U.S. citizen, so, no. Anyhow, Thiel is originally German of birth, so he sure gets around... :P
It couldn't have happened had it not been for oxymoronically named Citizen's United.
That STILL IS THE RNC (with a different label) It does not unite the country (left & right) to a common middle ground.
What are y’all talking about?
I would say rather, it was an Orwellian name choice.
@@Eevle1 hilarious
@@bunzeebear2973
Especially persons who have negative thoughts and follow negative people.....🙄
"There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this treachery" J.R.R. Tolkien.
When did Elvis curse people?
@@YouAreStillNotablaze When he called someone a dog.
I get the quote, But ....Tolkien's works deserve better than to be used in politics in any way shape or form.
You pick JD Vance if you want Peter Thiel's millions of dollars.
Yeah, I don’t like the guy but acting like this is anything more than a money grab is pretty shortsighted
No, it's billions.
@@nking516 Thiel would fund Trump with or without Vance.
@@JimBalter Yes, but installing a puppet at the seat of power to get your agenda enacted is a great return on your money if you are driven by a desire to control society. Further, Trump is 78 and may not live 4 years so Vance could take over the entire operation. Also, if he does live, Vance would be in prime position to get elected to the Presidency as the incumbent VP.
JD Vance is a part of the Heritage Foundation and project 2025.
"When President Trump has spoken of the country as
trapped in a losing game of international trade
or decried the carnage on so many American
streets, he has earned criticism for painting
an overly pessimistic view of his own country.
Yet that pessimism struck a chord with many
Americans, including those who did not vote
for him." - JD Vance - Heritage Foundation 2017
Vance wrote this just a year into Trump's presidency, already showing he had changed his mind about him. Vance is not "part" of the Heritage Foundation. I checked, but has written for their publications. And why not? In 2017 The President of the Heritage Foundation was a Black Woman, Kay Coles James, the current VP is an Afro-Latino from Columbia. Weirdest collection of white nationalists i've ever heard of.
Just beacuse you say it enough doesnt mean its true
I was already going to vote for him and Trump, you don't need to make him sound even more based.
Did he also make a cameo in the notorious Trump Pee tape?
Maddow will surely get to the bottom of this caper 😂
@josephthomssen4049 that's just how these people operate. They thought Biden was sharp she on his game when they were told so. Then when that same media a week later said he's old and mentally unfit they agreed. They have no cognitive thought, no independent research, they have been raised to parrot the opinion of someone else. Conditioned, one night even say indoctrination, they believe what they want to believe regardless of facts and will ignore actual facts if need be to protect their own psych from the thought that their opinion could be wrong or that the voice leading them may not have their best interest at hand. However, surprisingly I've met many who , well I didn't think was possible, woke up so to speak. One way for another they saw a lie or disagree and it caused them to did, and digging led them to more lies they once believed.
Thiel, who is also a self-loathing homosexual who intentionally destroyed gawker after they outed him, must have a big huge crush on J.D. Vance.
You do realize Rachel is a "homosexual" ?
Talents best kept hidden?
Even Thiel would have better taste. 😂
@@emzywillrich7243$15M? Obviously not.
User-dl1yc8cb41? Well that would explain a lot wouldn’t it? Well well well
Soooo what you are saying is Vance is the real DEI hire. He’s the one that’s not qualified to be VP.
I'm totally insulted on behalf of J.R.R. Tolkien & his magnificent literary works. 🤬
Same!! Appalled! 🤯🤯🤯
It's crazy how many right wing bigots enjoy sci-fi and fantasy.
I still can't figure out why sci-fi and fantasy appeals to bigots.
It was irresponsible of Maddow to make that association without putting it into context. It's almost as bad as using the term "Christian" Nationalists without explaining that they don't have anything to do with Christ or his teachings --- they're just using the name because they think it makes them look cool.
Absolutely. The elvish rings were kept hidden and used for good. The ring Narya was given to Gandalf to use to help save Middle Earth.
Citizens United led to this. They knew it would.
They sure did. Now we have a far better idea of why this was so!
Just think , if we repeal citizens united , the right will have to win elections to be in congress instead of just buying them !
How does that effect your day to day life
@@MrSpencerportpeople being able to buy/coerce the people in power, thereby including laws and regulations for their benefit and not the country as a whole.
@@rrsrrs04exactly. These type of individuals shouldn’t be anywhere near any type of power on earth jeezzzz
Why do I feel like everything I know about J. D.Vance has been against my will? He came out of nowhere.
Maybe youre not just paying attantion my guy
The day after the soothing! Vetted by Blackstone! But Rachel know that because she is paid by them!
Maybe, you should read some books and watch some movies and you would know who he is. Even if you don't follow politics.
" J. D. Vance has been against my will? " What does that mean and what is your will ?
Fascists are sometimes hard to find and JD Vance fills the bill. He's a White man who was more than happy to carry the water for Peter Tiel and other wealthy Fascists. Read Rachel Maddow's book, "Prequel" - it's all there.
Don't you just love Rachel maddow 👍🥰💯!!!
Not really
YES ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I do not love or admired biased puppets. TRUMP 2024
She participated in the lie that getting the jab meant the you couldn’t spread Covid. She participated in the lies about Hunter’s laptop. She’s an overpaid propagandist
These kinds of people don’t represent anyone but themselves
I know the DNC is all about themselves ask Pelosi she does inside trading. She knows what bills will pass and banks on them using her husband to make the trades
They represent him so disrespectfully
The democrats right?
More than half the US says it does
Exactly
how much did thiel pay trump to choose vance.... everything is transactional for trump so he got paid to make the choice of vance
it comes in the form of campaign donations. Musk has pledged $45M a month
Font forget Musks possible contribution. Musk & Thiel as well as Vance are cut of the same cloth.
Probably paying his legal fees/penalties
I don't believe one thing that spews out of your mouth Rachel !
@@westho7314 Birds of the same feather flock together.
Interesting / vile. In 2011, Peter Thiel obtained New Zealand citizenship. We live in NZ, don't like this but are so grateful for all the courageous people standing up against trump and the authoritarian republicans.
Sure you do bwhahaha I live by the Svalbard Seed Vault :)))
@@Bouddica2 Strange comment.
Under very controversial circumstances he obtained NZ ' citizenship'
but doubt he'll become a true 'kiwi' with that mindset .
The democrats are also very authoritarian.
so U'r ok with what the dems have done to the world??
Thank you Rachel for the honest background on J D Vance!!!! He isn't who he pretends to be and his backers are scary.
Thank you, for exposing them
Junior Senator for Ohio voted against American workers and factories in Lima Ohio manufacturing Abrams tanks that have benefited from Ukraine funding. You can't make this stuff up.
We love jd. 💙💙💙
@@kelperdude Hey kluelessdude long time no speak
@@kelperdude you'll love whoever you're told to love, we know
@kevinmichael9482 scripture says, in the end of times we will see good as bad, and bad as good.
Looks like that time is coming.
@@KeepMoving4wrd But what do the Harry Potter books say?
The real question is why did Mr. Thiel help Vance so much? Why keep putting him forward to new jobs when he failed at the earlier ones? What is the deal between these two?
Loyalty to $$$
There obviously was and is a plan....
remember Mr Trump embracing JD. Vance and nie imagen Mr. Trumps favored story about the poisonous snake....
Lovers? 😮
Vance is now a paid for senator. He can't oppose anything Thiel wants. I wonder how many other congressmen "belong" to Thiel. Thiel is a smart man. He is protecting his financial future. His savings are the political figures he has invested on. He probably was influential in getting Usha Vance's clerkships with Supreme Court justices Roberts and Kavanaugh. There is definitely deep political debt in Vance's family.
I kinda think that n.b.4125 has the goods...
What is it with all these American men being so against abortion?
Because they do not believe women should have any rights, even the vote.
@@brianhill5009 Why do you LIE? How is it that the left makes so many accusations of _others_ lying, when leftist LIE more than anyone. And the entire world knows it. The US is either going to return to a more MORAL foundation or it’s doomed to fall.
Maddow is a LIAR and immoral.
How is it women get pregnant then wonder how? More pills available now than ever before! You really don't want to get pregnant? Lazy maybe? Whats the motive? Can they really be that stupid? Are there other motives?
Oh I’m sure he’s paid for an abortion or two like most republicans it’s all hypocritical.
They listen to weekly propaganda in church so someone else can do their thinking for them.
How many millions of dollars did Thiel give trump to select Vance as his running mate. trump doesn’t do anything that he doesn’t know there is something financial in it for him. Between Thiel and Elon Musk, how much is trump now pocketing every month?
michaelj8460 - We are so fkd as Americans. God help us
You guys need help
Mental help 😅
Madock doesn't get her information but thru hateful
...Thiel offered SSTrumf a free pass from justice indictments: JD Vance, as vice-president running mate. And, this is what the worst political system in the world is about!
Looks like Mr. Thiel is trying to buy himself a President. Well done, Peter. Well done. Outrage anyone, anyone?
No more than say George Soros is....
nah
No, im perfect! Trump/Vance 2024
Yes, a true Manchurian candidate
Is that the correct spelling, “Peter Thiel?”
A billionaire bought and paid for a politician! No way!
I see little Geo. Soros waiving his pitifully old claw.
Is there any politicians not bought and paid for these days? The list is very small on both sides.
@@robertkennedy5374 ok...fidesz (victor orban) lover...you made your 'point'.
I thought they only bought supreme court judges. Oh, wait. They ALSO buy supreme court judges.
@@honestgenuinefierce2637 what bureaucrat isn't?
A failed businessman picking another failed businessman. Sounds about right.
You're kidding right? Kamala stepped down running against the man that just stepped down.
@@nickwhite5675 liberals can never see how dumb they sound!! Think they’re holier than God!
@@nickwhite5675 So she could come back now and kick the crap out of FATFK.
failed businessmen don't have hit TV shows or own billions of dollars in real estate assets. But ya know, you sound like a leftist, and truth is not your strong suit
@@dragonslayer5306 like we did with Biden? Or Obama? Or Bush? Or Clinton? Or Old Bush? Or Reagan? Or Carter? Do you want me to keep going? SO SO VITAL, you're right
Bleak times we live in. 😢
Yeah, that's what happens when you vote Democrat.
Can you remind any better Tim's in history? All history!
Pretty bleak for the Democrats the rest of the country on the other hand is looking pretty good
Vote
Cry more
No point in trying to pin Vance’s previous statements on him.
He has no problem saying that yesterday he was wrong, but today he is right.
When your soul is missing, anything goes.
WELL ONE THING FOR SURE, THE TRUMPERS IS NOT BUYING WHAT HE SAID THEN AND WHAT HE SAYING NOW! THEY SAID THEY WILL NOT VOTE FOR THEFELON AS LONG AS HE IS THE VP! YEA RIGHT!
He is silly putty. Formed by the person near him.
You've never changed your mind?
@@llars1559 About Orange Hitler? Nope.
Not even if he offered me the job of VP.
You've never changed your mind on anything and it shows.
I audibly gasped when i heard vance for vp. Im from ohio, he is absurd.
Agree
Ah, THAT's why he got the call...
I had no idea how unqualified Vance was. Shame on my ignorance.
You and I both; there's this thing that happens to cultures near the apex - advertisement of the facade of success. Its why Kings put on parades - instead of battle scars they say, 'here check out ersatz courage'
You have no idea how unqualified Kanala is. She know nothing about doing business like Trump. No nothink about geopolitics - listen what she talk about war in Ukraine. She cant make difficult decision. She only now how put same amout of woman everywhere. Every child could do this. She cant protect USA border. How she want protect world from WWIII? She cares more about climat and at the same time she ignore that she make USA week and china strong.
That's not merit, it's nepotism. Let's call it what it is.
Do you get sarcasm?
They call Kamala the DEI presidential nominee but Trump can’t even read or write. And Trump hid his grands when journalist went looking for them.
Now remember he also wanted to see Obama’s grades.
Vance is a relative??
Dems need to air ads filled with Vance’s previous remarks not liking Trump every day, every hour, everywhere.
Totally agree, need to bring up Ted Cruz and Lyndsay Graham as well. These flip flippers need to be exposed to these people following Trump that have a bad case of ADD!
Touche!!!
There was a statement by Stephen King, its hilarious.
Did you not listen! The fix must already be in!
What for?? Vance changed his mind when he got to actually work with Trump and saw he was the real deal.
Why is Peter Thiel so inured with Vance? Kind of weird.
Stop crying 😂
Probably because Theil owns Vance the way Crow owns Clarence.
Not weird when you consider that he want's Vance to take over after Trump and he'll have his kept man in the White House. Even as VP he will have a lot of influence. But it's the long game he and Heritage are playing for.
@@genghiskhan5158 so interesting how you right wingers complain about politics being overrun by the deep state and money interests but you'll whitelist silver spoon elites and their benefactors as long as they spew some MAGA buzzwords here and there
Only MAGA nuts whine!😎💙👍@@genghiskhan5158
The REAL reason is that Vance and Trump both love their make-up - Vance wearing all of his mascara, is fine with an orange face and just like Giuliani and his running hair dye. Yet they all seem to be against Drag Queens.
You can't help but think a lot of Slave owners in the confederate states would have suggested that democracy and freedom weren't compatible as well.
I know right!!
The Confederacy were Democrats by the way.
@@cchcch-jw9dw right, we all know that the parties switched at some point in history
@@in2blueoblivion The Democrats went from the party of being physically enslaved to the party of being enslaved by the government.
@@cchcch-jw9dw yawn. Times change dufus.
A lot of Southerners have never accepted the abolition of slavery and the end of Jim Crowe laws. They want their revenge. Keep that in mind.
The struggle between good and evil coming to the surface, not service
The baby killers are on the evil side right???
With Trump and his ilk...service is not even a whisper on the agenda for them. They go for the money and the power..that's all they want...oh, plus the 'under the sheets' entertainment.
@@mrbiglicks8267yes the tru baby killers. Gop
It's like a scene from The Devils Advocate.
Elon Musk and Peter Thiel go way back. It is no wonder that they always team up to buy their President. The more things change the more they remain the same.
Don't forget that they both have links to Pootler!
Musk a south african, thiel from new zealand?
It's the Pay Pal mafia that is running politics.
Nobody listens to madcow
@@user-ip5dm6jf8k Thiel is American who paid large for NZ citizenship. Musk and he were in business together when they formed what became known as Pay Pal. They go way back to the early 90s.
Unbelievable, a looser making a career because of knowing the right person. Or blackmailing him?
In worse case scenario he could be president.
He will be, just 4 short year after Trump and the woke mind virus will be dead.
Trump and Vance are good people not like that brain-dead Biden and come to la Harris
Wow, didn’t realize he was that incompetent, but connected.
Requirements of maga.
Yeah Yale law is very incompetent
He's not incompetent. Rachel completely misrepresents him. He made to Yale with Zero connections. He only made connections once he got to Yale, and he deserved those connections in part because he came from such a hard life. Read his book and watch his pre-nomination interviews yourself. He is nuanced. He understands structural problems in the US and the difficult balance between offering help vs. creating a culture of learned helplessness. He understands that solving these problems is difficult. He leans right, but he listens and understands the left. I find it refreshing that we on the left will finally have someone intelligent to debate these issues with.
@@mweschHe is smart. He's saw how Trump's populism was appealing to authoritarian followers and even denounced it. Then he saw how successful Trump was, and decided to emulate that strategy. But unlike Trump, Vance is very calculating and intentional.
He's also a convert to an extremely reactionary version of Catholicism. He literally thinks that orthodox Catholic dogma should be integral to US law... A particular form of extreme Christian Nationalism called Catholic Integralism.
PS: Trump's success might well have pushed him into his views against representative government. Trump has gotten a lot of liberals questioning if the US will survive as a democratic republic too. Heck, Ben Franklin's "a Republic, if you can keep it" quote is relevant. Well, Vance apparently thinks we can't... But that's a good thing (or at least good for him)
There's no nuance in Project 2025 and his beliefs about a woman's place
Peter Thiel's Freedom is to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, wherever he wants, to whomever he wants. That's not Freedom. That's not Democracy ...
He sounded like Trump!
@@yannip2083 Same school I guess.
Really professor????? Do tell us what Democracy is....by the way...we live in a Constitutional Republic....
@johnp1366 Of course cancelling RFK is mainstream media democracy
@@bryanlongshore6198 Yes, we already know Republican are anti American traitors who hate freedom and democracy. You don'have to convince anybody with your constitutional republic BS.
Aotearoa New Zealands ex prime minister John Key gave Peter Thiel citizenship to our country after 12 days, a process that normally takes 2 yrs. The whole deal was so sleazy. So sad that so many people in the US are falling for this level of celebrity delusion
Sounds like new Zealanders are falling for it too. 🤷
😂
Probably because LOTR was filmed in NZ
John Key is quite seriously rightwing ( once said he would have voted for Bolsonaro and for Trump)and a total fanboy for rich powerful people; a stupid suckup wannabe.
@@billyyank5807 the NZ public had no say. He bought the then Prime Minister Teflon John.
@@billyyank5807 No we are not. Most of the NZ population was disgusted at the ease that Thiel was granted citizenship, especially when considering much more deserving cases were regularly denied NZ citizenship.
It not like an decent human being was going to be Trump VP anyhow.
Ya gotta point there, Shad. Ya gotta point.
Luckily literally anyone would be better than Kamala.
@@hideousruincope
Money and corruption are its finest!
Through all of Man's recorded history..
Money at it's worst is the Biden family LLC's.
I think it's at its finest
Ask the Trump family when it comes to defeauding their own charity. @@WendyMarshall-rz4fn
@@WendyMarshall-rz4fn "no you" seriously thats all you magaturds got?
This is an absolutely outstanding journalistic report and a professional presentation by Rachel Maddow - Please continue in this line - I'm sure your I'm sure many more people highly appreciate your outstanding, journalistic work. Your excellent journalistic work and dedication to democracy deserve appreciation and recognition.
“Nary a” = “Aryan”. Great journalism???? Are you serious? No doubt you enjoyed voting for the senile fool that botched the withdrawal from Afghanistan (including the killing of children in a car) and has saddled the US with supporting a corrupt regime run by an actor for at least one decade.
Found the sheep
Thank you Rachel for calling out JD Vance. All this information needs to b out there for the public.
Info, or MIS info.
The fact that you people h8tes Vance is a great thing for voters 😂
@@hallandra9754why?
@@hallandra9754JD Vance said (I’m paraphrasing) that basically if you don’t have kids you shouldn’t have a stake in the future of our country and society. I don’t care who you are or what political ideology you hold, it’s completely bs to disenfranchise any group of people.
Are you slow???? You know that people voted for him right
"There is no curse in elvish, entish or human tongues for this ignorance " 3:09
I can't believe Rachel is dismissing Lord of the Rings. Narya was one of the three rings of power (Fire) given to the elves by Sauron. Ian McKellen even wears Narya in Return of the King! Geez. Takes five seconds to look that up. How dare she call herself a nerd! 🤓
@@williamyoung9401 welp any of elvish rings was made by Sauron
@@williamyoung9401Not to be that nerd (lol) but none of the Elven rings were forged by Sauron. The 3, including Narya, were forged in secret by the Elves once they discovered Annatar’s evil influence. But, yes, very sad that anyone is politicizing such a great story and giving it a label that it clearly rises above!😊🤓
None of this is surprising....America is in absolute disarray .
@@KjellJansson Wrong, as usual.
@@stephenstjohn5239
Correct! As usual. 😅
The GOP is in complete disarray.
Maddow and others like her have continuously spewed hatred for President Trump and are complicit in the recent assassination attempt.
@@user-yb8vr2ip2t Maddow and others like her have continuously spewed hatred for President Trump and are complicit in the recent assassination attempt.
As my grandma would say: This man is bought and paid for.
THATS MEE-MAW YOU COMMIE!!!!! /s
And she would surely know Maddow is too!
well when trump wins you can go to your safe place and cry
Trump is a loser - his pick of JD Vance (bought and paid for) will ensure he loses big time. 😂
Just like Clearance Thomas.Peace
A drunk nation will soon be forced to sober up
@@stkane102 and what’s with the eyeliner. Does he forget to take it off after his playtime
How dare you refer negatively to America's drug of choice!
Why does nobody ever ask JD Vance about his permanent mascara?
@@marisamichelle2522 suuuure
Honestly there are bigger issues to discuss that they're not going to answer if asked either so why bother? Surely you jest with that question?
Yes - it is very odd that the anti - trans party wants a guy with eye liner as # 2.
....We thought George Santos was bad.
He has gorgeous eyelashes.
@neilmarshall5087 you really sound ignorant.
I find it interesting that Peter Teel didn't hire JD Vance. He just pushed him off on his friends
What a god-awful country America must be.
There are good people in the USA, but the *ssh*les are louder. Good people don't feel the need to tell everyone how wonderful they are.
It's the absolute worst.
America is a great country. Listening to radical left lies makes us look bad, but it’s just the left that needs to leave.
It must not be but is thanks to the republikkkan party it is and will go full blown fascist if Dickless Don the Con retakes the Oval Office!
@@user-ms9xn9rm6t we're very troubled. So much hatred from both sides. That isn't something I would have thought before 8 years ago. Everyone is crazy and at each other's throats.
It ALSO seems that being a billionaire and having democracy is also not compatible....
Truth.
Elon Musk out there buying 2024 elections dumping 45 million a month into the GOP until the Election Day! How is this lawful 😮
And sadly IF trump gets elected our economy will boom and separate the classes, and extinct the middle. We will look like a hunger games district by 2030 if we are even still around.
Republicans and democracy are not compatible...
He's not even close to being a Billionaire (w/ 5 bankruptcies), rather a BILLIONAIRE WANNABE!!!! (Meaning DJT, not Vance).
Roy Cohn is to Donald Dump as Peter Thiel is to Jd Vance……..catch my drift?
Or maybe I should say Donald Dump is to Roy Cohn what JD Vance is Peter Thiel….. now do you get it?
That helps me to understand why he took such a heal turn after his book came out. Because the guy from his book who did interviews with NPR and talked about Trump being a bad person is not the same guy that we have with us now. Essentially he was bought and paid for by Peter theil and now he’s happy to just be his dog.
Bought and paid for. Mr Thiel and Elon Musk . Wonder what Mr Trump promised them in return.
Everything, anything, so long as it's not his! DUH!
a sense of belonging
Or what dirt he has on them...
Less tax payable
Some photocopies of stolen secret documents they can onsell?
Tolkien is rolling in his grave. He was against industrialism, advancement for the sake of advancement and power were toxic to him. His work is about equality, healthy masculinity, and standing up for the small guy. Wow! 😢
Agreed
They co-opt everything to fit their narrative.
When a german publisher mailed Tolkien for the purpose of translating and publishing his recent Book Bilbo in 1938, they asked whether or not Tolkien was a jewish name. Tolkiens replied that "Sadly no. Jews are a great people and I am sadly not one of them"
Yes, a lot of accomplished writers have liberal ivory tower views...they have that luxury. Meanwhile, because of the industrial revolution, world poverty has shrunk. From 1980 to present, world poverty has been cut in half. I love Tolkein and creative people, but they sometimes live in a parallel universe.
Flip flopper Vance called Trump the ""cynic American Hitler"" now the hypocrite wants to be his successor.
Tolkien now is rolling in his grave after hearing this :(
He is dead so he will not be rolling Narya, also known as the Ring of Fire.
@@KerewinHWhat you wrote makes no sense.
You mean by Rachel saying he was a fascist?
@@hideousruinjak najbardziej ma sens, a ta „ dziennikarka „ nie dość, że nie zna książek Tolkiena to jeszcze wprost uderza w Aryjczyków poprostu ich obrażając. Jeśli ktoś tu jest rasistą to właśnie ona.
@@czarnyformal. Rachel is a nationally recognized journalist.
If the media wants to drive a wedge between Trump and Vance, start talking about how much more attractive, young, educated, well-spoken Vance is.
Lol! So true!
I've never actually heard him speak, separate from this video. He's been a nothing burger until this last week.
Unlike Obama , who picked an old washed up career politician.... Trump chose someone who is exactly that .... younger smarter better looking .... it shows that he isn't scared of anyone ...
@@alexandrawallner8814 plus his military serve although overseas was a desk job and got him enough points to be able to go to Yale with the GI bill. So he's gotten where is using the system to advance himself and knows a billionaire.
LOL, that’s what Biden said about Obama!
I can tell ya this…..If these men are successful, I give it 6 months…if that…and this pawn will be POTUS. I’m an old woman, but I have five sons and 5-1/2 ☺️ grandchildren (two granddaughters) and I’m very anxious. I became an evangelical fundamentalist in CA in ‘81, early on in this current CN movement. I got out years ago, and when I saw which “christian” leaders were by *his* side, it made me ill. It really was going to happen. I wish people had listened to me and others in 2015, instead of calling us overly dramatic. But they didn’t, so we are here now and we’ll see how it goes. It all seems very coordinated as events have unfolded over the past three weeks thereabouts (and I mean including some Dems, as well).
I will also say that, as a native hillbilly, I didn’t appreciate Vance’s fraudulent “memoir” and couldn’t stomach more than 15 minutes of that awful movie (wth Ron Howard?). It was insulting to many of us.
Isn’t Vance his maternal grandparents’ name? I hear he’s changed his name a couple of times. Idk if that’s true, but it would be in keeping with these conmen and their puppet masters.
Yes. He changed his name several times.
But he doesn’t like it when a trans person wants to change names.
@@coastalartistlivingonislan8395 He’s a fraud coming and going.
Why are you lefty catting about his name??? If he had changed his gender what would you say.?
Who wants this. USA not Russia or England. Love all countries but that is not in our foundation. Or not wanted. You have to much money and too much time to think against the population. Stop the corruptive deeds & actions. Make America Respectable, Honest & Loving.❤❤ The joy of this life God gave each of us should be our own choice not the 1%.
@@marieabraham8319I'd say "hi everyone, this is Mrs. jd vance."
Peter Thiel sound's like a sugar daddy...lol
JD does have a bit of a cub look to him.
Yes he does. What do you have to do for a sugar daddy? Let's think.
I couldn't agree more with you.
Didn’t want to go there… but…🤔
Exactly!
J.D. Vance is nothing more than a professional loser. In fact, he was chosen by Peter Thiel, his longtime supporter, who gave him all the jobs in his would-be career. Because Vance failed miserably in all these jobs, he is now completely dependent on Peter Thiel, a veritable puppet.
Thiel very likely expects Trump to fail in one way or another (mentally or physically) during his time in office and Vance will have to take over the job. Then Thiel would be the unelected but extremely influential president in the background, because he has Vance completely in his hands.
Gee, i am 68, hungry, everything is hundred dollars, i dont make enough money, medication, constantly needing doctors. All because someone didnt get their shots when my mom was pregnant with me German measles 1956...stay healthy, get your shots to help elderly and pregnant women kids. I am the lucky one to live this long. Thank you Jesus
Blame Biden! He is the worst president in history!
Im sorry to hear about your health issues regarding the German measles. Please read up on the mrna vaccines. Dr. John Campbell right here has a fantastic channel with medical research from various countries (not the USA though) that proves how dangerous the covid vaccine has been. Be well and God bless you.
What a kind and thoughtful person you are would you run for office that's what we need @@barbj9785
In 1956 there was no regular vaccine against measles.
I wish you would have mentioned Vance net worth when he joined the Senate and what he's worth now due to the insider trading
Yup like Pelosi worth 250 million
Wonder how much MTG was worth after trading all that stock in the pharma companies she bought when the vaccine was being developed (which she was so against btw. She didn’t buy the stocks because she was for it)
Vance got rich being a crook
Did they say that Vance said he was a never trumper and that Trump was unfit to run a country and he was the American Hitler, so why did they give him the VP job none of Trumps fans like Vance something is not right.
maybe he was mentored by Crime Boss Nancy Pelosi and Mad Maxine Waters ohhhhhhhh and who can forget good ol Billy Clinton and his visits to Epstein's Young Love Island
J. D. Vance has literally reversed All of his political "beliefs" from a ridiculously short time ago.
Its Called waking up to the BS of the Democrat party.
That's what narcissists do. They do SELF. Whatever advances THEMSELVES is all they care about. Not honor, not character, not honesty, not sacrifice. SELF. SELF. SELF.
Eventually you people learn what is real and what is not like Vance has
meanwhile, Kamala is out here in these streets 😂
@@violahamilton782 True. The turning point was when Trump got into office in 2016 and did a good job, which was powerful enough to change Vance's view.
Madcow should play video of Kamala calling Joe a racist during the last election.
How much money was he paid by Vance’s sugar daddy, to choose him as VP?
Putin has deep pockets. So, I suspect a lot of money.
How much did Barrack wire joe to hire Kamala?
Kamala referred to joe as: ol' white racist that was against BUSSIN' colored across town....member?
How old are you Andy? 12
Looks like trump got the billion dollars he asked for from his guest at mar a logo .
Excuse me, do you renember who said: "I can't stomach Trump", "He is nauseous", "He is leading the white working class to a very dark place", "I am a never Trump guy", "Trump can be the America's Hitler"....
Do you remember now little VP?
Noxious, not nauseous.
Do you remember who said she believed the stories by women who said Biden sexually assaulted them?
And then he stopped listening to msnbc and mainstream media.
@@droughttolerant9334 Yeah, Vance seems like a big MSNBC fan back in 2015.
@@mile_high_topher His wife is a Democrat.
J.D. Vance went to the Lindsey Graham School Of Flip-Floppery and was class valedictorian.
Your comment is the Best and. Funniest one i read tonight.
tRump gave him an A for best fluffer.
😂😂😂
typical hater, thats all😂
@@Vrie. JD Vance? Yes, he is.
Thanks again, Rachel for being on top of everything❤
How long do you figure until J.D. Vance is either thrown under the bus by Trump or he goes to prison?
I’m sure the Dems are already conniving something to charge him with.
Six months tops
Lol I was thinking the same way!!!!
He's protected by MAGA Supreme Court judges.
Before Election Day.😀😄
Money talks, democracy walks.
remember: democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.
Soros's money? Gates Money?
@@Lightning613 No it's not, it's mostly the opposite of that! Except corporations and billionaires have the most influence and are allowed to do so by the "citizens united" case they won due to the "conservatives" in the supreme court.
@walterfristo: Wow. You put it perfectly.
@@walterfristoe4643 Indeed the case in most countries including in USA, and when the corporations and billionaires have the supreme court on their side.
Supreme courts should be balanced but mostly or in many cases they are not, especially when the justices get always picked by whichever party is in govt and pushed through instead of through equal bi-partisan ways.
Remember, Biden and Trump are elderly. Either Harris or Vance could become president at a moment's notice.
Forget parties.... Which is more qualified to step in at a moment's notice and run our country?
Hmmm, accomplished former senator and AG vs nepobaby that failed upwards
Certainly not Harris
I remember Kamala Harris as an attorney locking innocent black men in jail so her win rate went up. JD Vance brought jobs to small towns that needed it.
@@nathanlevesque7812 Nepobaby? A man born and lived in poverty, a man who came from nothing and made himself rich and helped thousands of others over a woman who got every promotion by getting on her knees and blowing her way to the top?
@@nathanlevesque7812 Vance wasn't AG but he's still very qualified. Harris was the governor's side piece.
I am so proud of Republicans. I thought they were against drag queens, but they picked a guy who rocks eyeliner everyday.
@@marissa32 I also use eyeliner most days .... because I'm a lady...but Vance is maybe trying to look like Keith Richards....oh wait... Richards is actually talented
Their cult leader wears make up and heels. So it’s basically on brand
Funny isn't it, they say one thing and do another thing.
Omg you are right! After your comment I was thinking yes what’s up with his eyes??? Omg
And wears a thong from Victoria secret
J.D. Vance is no more of a "hillbilly" than Buddy Ebson was.
😂😂😂
That's falee and easily fact check. He came from that place, lived that life, and the people of Ohio who voted for him know it.
Why are democrats so dishonest?
Buddy could dance, too. I'd vote for Buddy before the 2 cruddies if he was still here.
@@nuqwestr Ohio and "hillbilly" are an odd pairing anyway. He was poor growing up. No big deal. Peter Thiel gave him a big tech job in California and now he's on top of the world. Venture capitalists like him very much. Not so much real hillbillies.
Vance didn't work out in all of the three jobs that were handed to him?? Oh boy, that doesn't sound very good.
That's what the right calls merit.
But it is consistent with a RNC president elect that bankrupted many companies including casinos.
Sounds like he worked out great at being a boy toy
He's not so much a running mate, more a slithering mate.
He goes hand in hand with Trump
When it comes to the republican party, it's not about your life's accomplishment, it solely about who's willing to be a "yes sir/yes ma'am" to Trump!
This from the "vote blue no matter who" side?:))))
Bow down to Jesus, not Trump. You should only worship Jesus.
Biden once bragged about writing 60 new death penalties.
@@honeyhorse4597AMEN
JESUS JESUS JESUS 🙌🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾
so, what IS the relationship between Theil and Vance that Theil keeps giving him opportunities like that?
my first thought, too. where are the hard hitting investigative journalists to unearth the secrets
Vance is a political opportunist. He was very vocal against trump last time around, and now he’s all in favor of trump? If the RNC turned on trump, Vance would dump him in a heartbeat.
Well said Rachel Maddow 😊👍
Looks like mostly all of them are political opportunists
He is a Lindsey Graham clone, just younger.
Ksmala was as agsinst Joe yet he chose her.. not because of competence but because of colour ans she has been cackling ever since.
@@MikeBrown-ex9nhlady Lindsay is the consummate RINO fronting butch
JD is America First, through and through
Perfectly stated! He will dump Trump at the first opportunity it benefits him! Someone like him cannot be trusted! Once a betrayer, always a betrayer! He called Trump the American Hitler, but he is now VP to the American Hitler, at least until he dumps the American Hitler!
Protégé? It sounds like JD Vance has a sugar daddy, just like Clarence Thomas.
Yes, and he bought old JD the VP seat. Trump does NOTHING for free. He chose Pence based on a guarantee of the RW evangelical vote.
hahaha I thought about it, but didn´t voice it
Well to be fair to Thomas...he had a chance to have a new sugar daddy in John Oliver but refused. He prefer sugar daddies that allow him to makes the most evil possible. The man has principles.
Was thinking the same thing.
My thoughts exactly
RACHEL YOU ARE GREAT AT REPORTING THE NEWS . TRUST YOU TO TELL THE TRUTH!!!
😂
You listen to this crap???
vance is a perfect VP for the right wing... please stop advising them on fixing their mistakes.. .encourage them to keep doing what they are doing
Good to see journalism is still alive, I appreciate you SO much Ms Maddow❤
That wasn’t journalism. It was another Biden hit job.
You mean Mr 🤔
BLUE MAGA channel
@@josephthomssen4049 explain exactly what vi0lence “blue MAGA” has provoked. What is the definition of “blue MAGA?”
This is journalism 😂
You forgot the health insurance system that Vance started in Ohio that also closed without paying out for any insurance people had bought from this company.
Oops
Really?
so that's something trump would admire
A Trumpski prototype, loyal & greedy.
What a doofie. Look at California raising fast food prices and now they’re SOL. Now the fast food workers are getting fired
The Supreme Court and all government should be totally neutral.
True democracy
Taxpayer dollars
dont you think the media should too.. msnbc pays for guys like this one to spread hatred in the nation. you okay with that?
Including the liberal media but if they lose their funding from the Democratic party there wouldn't be an MSNBC anymore
Yup, it should. But it hasn't been. Somehow either side only only notices when that bias went against them.
@@lilliagajewski7817 what bias against maga ever existed
There is no such thing as a lack of bias I’m afraid.
Sounds like Vance is Teals boyfriend..
J.D.Vance will be a 'heartbeat' away from being President... scary times America . 🇦🇺💙🇺🇸⛪
So is Kamala...downright frightening.
Giving uberlibertarian Thiel free rein
@@marieabraham8319 Kamala likes Yellow School buses....so you did to stop
Desk jockey marine. MAGADONIA hates combat arms as soldiers
@@katherinegray5086 bla bla bla Democrats are so 😭😭😭😭😭
JD Vance is the guy you pick because he will do what Pence refused to do.
Where is Mike at now days anyway?
@@steveyates1136 Church probably
@@steveyates1136
Ask his mother 😂
Vance would be willing to be assisted by a mob of rabid Trump supporters?
pence had balls...
Just when you think it cannot get any worse, it does!
😂
I figured one reason for the Vance pick was that Vance would choose Trump over the Constitution which Pence wouldn't do.
He has already said that is exactly what he would do!
Try thinking for yourselves. You may like it. The media is paid to brainwash you. You all must like high prices, open borders, crime, wars, etc. Maddow doesn’t care about you. She has her high paying gig.
Vance has no platform. He is only loyal to Trump. Like Stalin picking Georgy Malenkov as his deputy. He is not a threat.