The Difference Between Hardwoods and Softwoods (I Swear, More Interesting Than It Sounds)
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Perhaps the most important and misunderstood aspect of defining wood as either hard or soft is that it has absolutely nothing to do with the individual qualities of the harvested wood itself. The most famous and oft used example of this concept is that of balsa wood which, despite being literally one of the least dense (and hence softest) woods of all, is technically classified as hardwood. Likewise, the wood of the yew tree, which is classified as being a softwood, is a great deal tougher than many hardwoods including several types of oak. So what’s going on here?
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Today I Found Out Topic suggestion - why certain woods are preferred in manufacture of pool cues (not straight rail billiards cues). Thank you for your consideration, Simon. Best regards.
working on a farm, I found out all wood is hard wood when you drop it on your foot.
lmao😂😂
From my own experience, a waterlogged softwod is a lot harder on the foot then any dry hardwood.
Stefan Butz the more simple explination, is a tree that keeps its leaf all year i.e. fir are soft wood. trees that loose leaf in winter i.e. oak is hardwood, which often sells for more because it takes longer to grow
tomyourmom, Admittedly, I was taught (in school) the deciduous/conifer version, too... But apparently, the explanation in the vid' here makes better sense when scrutinized historically...
So... Maybe you would care for a question... What about the Pinion Pine... It's my understanding (though I've never personally gone foraging them myself) that it's a conifer (pine in the name and all) but it's seeds are the famous "pinion nuts" sold practically all over the world... Hardwood, by the reckoning in the vid'... But which would you say?
Just curious... :o)
LMFAO!
*unknowingly clicks on old video
"Holy crap! What happened to..."
*sees it's 2 years old
"Ah."
My reaction: "Where the hell is your beard, sir?"
Brady Postma his head looks so small
I didn't even recognize him.
I had about the same reaction as a bikini bottom citizen looking at king Neptune’s “thinning” hair.
it's over 3 years old now. scary how much time flies. 2016 seems much closer than it is
Nothing is harder than morning wood.
You mean nothing is harder to relieve yourself with. Man if you have to take a dump with it, forget about it.
Did you embed a steel ball in it to make sure?
Alec Hogerland twice
Ouch!
When the seed is covered, it's hardwood, but it becomes softwood, when the seed is exposed to the elements ;-)
Probably the only Video with Wood, Sperm and Hard in the same sentence without being porn.
And a author named Wang being mentioned.
And the Janka hardness test
"Naked" also being said
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AHAHAHA-
OMG-
😂😂😂😂
Is that so??
The amazing part is that you managed to get through this entire video without using the words 'deciduous' & 'coniferous'.
No surprise. He cannot even pronounce "et cetera" correctly.
ExBruinsFan that's a wrong but far far more normal way to pronounce it in Britain. It would only suggest his social class and absolutely not his level of intelligence or even type of education.
Rave Biscuits
If he knows "ex cetra" is wrong and still says it, then he is being willfully ignorant.
+ExBruinsFan
And you have no concept of what it means to be "willfully ignorant". We all have our flaws.
ExBruinsFan Oh dear, if you want to sound intelligent (and it's clear by your stance that you do) then it's probably best to look up the definition of a phrase before using it...
Willfully ignorant would mean that he is going out of his way to not learn something, it doesn't mean 'someone who chooses not to implement a piece of knowledge'. He already knows as most do in Britain but is unable to, or sees no benefit to, catching himself every time he uses the phrase, when everyone will understand him and only wanna-be intellectual, purist twats like you will get upset.
one video i have to turn up my speakers to almost full, the next its shaking my fucking house.
One wood think there'd be a more log-ical reason.
(sorry, I couldn't resist)
fir heaven's sake, Some of these puns are so old I sawdust on them. I'm knot joking.
Ach Shetty I can knot believe I just saw that.
These puns are so 'plane'.
Debries That was so angiosperm! Wait...
@snlbitchluva wood you like to try again?
I really appreciate this explanation. As an aspiring homesteader, the hardness of different woods makes a big difference in which trees I will want to plant, so it is good to know not to assume much based on the classification.
the differance between hardwood and softwood is: if one lasts for more then 4 hours you should consult a doctor immediately
That simple definition fails with Ginko trees. They are gymnosperms but have a fleshy covering on their seeds. A better definition is simply that softwoods come from non flowering trees like conifers and ginkos and hardwoods come from flowering trees like apple, oak etc.
The female reproductive structures of gymnosperms do not contain ovaries and because of this they are not considered to be flowers (an example is the male and female cones on pine trees). They do have a seed coat but it's not ovary derived tissue. In the case of a Ginko the "fruit" it's actually a seed with a fleshy seed coat and not a true fruit.
This is like the HPC, outa no where, a decent channel arrives.
Thanks!
What is the difference between the Brinell test and the Janka test?
+VicariousReality7 the names are different
Janka measures the amount of force it takes the steel ball to penetrate a defined depth into the wood, brinell has a defined force and measures the depth it was able to reach. Same same but different.
WHAT THA FAAAK.
This is one of my favorite videos today that you guys have produced I would love to see a part two version to give more details into different what hardnesses and what some good/ common uses for them would be
Love what your doing Simon, love your videos when they come out, thanks for putting your work in these, and for feeding my curious mind.
That really was surprisingly interesting. you never dissapoint
Simon, I love your channel. I consider it a great source of reliable, factual knowledge. That being said, there seems to be some dispute on the janka hardness of the Australian Buloke. The wood database has the janka hardness at 3,760 lbf (16,740 N), whereas wikipedia quotes the 5,060 lbf (22,500 N). Im not really sure if this info is strong enough for an edit to the video or not.
A response to the title. I found it interesting even before I read the " I swear bit"
That example at 3:58 wasn't a Hickory, but Quercus alba - the White Oak.
I like your channel,it's not long winded and I find the topics are interesting to me
You videos are always interesting and very informing. Thank for the work you do.
I loved this video Simon. Very interesting 👍
I wish I could double-like !! Fascinating info that I, a notorious smartypants, did not know! Big thumbs up!
(Does Beavis and Butthead impression) Heh! He said wood! :) Well, I also learned something new. I always thought they were hardwood or softwood based on their tensile strength. Now I know better. The older I get, the more I realize how much I don't know! Well done, TIFO team!
+Corky Schillinger Thanks!
Thhettle down Beavithh.....
Not sure why you qualified, at the beginning of the video, that ‘this (video) is actually interesting’. Simon, your posts are ALWAYS interesting! You are, hands down, one of my favourite TH-camrs. Please keep up the great work! 👏👏👏👏👏
Thank you. This is something I've always been vaguely curious about. Can you do an equivalent video for rocks and minerals?
Who's this clean shaven non-spectacled young man?
Chris H Behold past Simon. Kinda like we're time traveling but not going anywhere. Maybe this is time travel. I mean we can see it just can't touch it
Everyone is a time traveler. We just all travel through time at approximately the same rate.
Brady Postma Yeah.. Not at all what I'm referring to. Viewing a window of the past
Informative and engaging too! thx.
The title made me laugh, and worth the thumbs up. Keep it up friend!
I like how he showed a pinecone with the description of an unprotected seed....a pinecone is the definition of a covered seed....some only open when lit on fire...
Sam What you're referring to are serotinous cones. Not all pine cones exhibit this behavior. Two that I can think of are Jack Pines and Table Pines. There are many more that don't behave in this manner.
This is incorrect. Hardwood and softwood refers to cells in the wood, not to the classification of the tree. Softwoods have only one type of cell (tiny tracheids) so their wood appears "soft" or bland-monotonous to the eyes. Hardwoods mix two cells (big vessels and little tracheids) in different proportions so their wood patterns are jumbled-irregular or hard on the eyes. Yes, all softwoods are gymnosperms but not all angiosperms are hardwoods. The wood taken from magnolias and other magnoliid trees are softwoods.
This seems like a much more reasonable and useful way to classify wood, but alas, after about a half hour of research from 12 different sources, i could not find a single one that supported this claim.
Try looking in standard, American, Botany texts under secondary growth or mature growth. In fact, the timber of certain flowering trees (magnolia) are classified as softwoods because the xylem lacks vessels. One wonders if this is an American vs. European distinction?
Peter Bernhardt
It would appear that some texts do mention wood grain and color as properties of wood as related to it being soft or hardwood, but the way they classify it is angiosperm vs gymnosperm. And as always, America may be an island in this and everything else, so that is not far fetched.
Peter Bernhardt
Peter Bernhardt
www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/design/resistantmaterials/materialsmaterialsrev1.shtml
I got this from the BBC website which is taught in English schools
when i learn something new as in this video, it is always interesting. thanks
I'm happy that you posted this as it seriously just helped my hobby out a ton. I make wooden swords and shields and I'm constantly looking for wood that is durable enough to handle kids. Thank You
Best exploration of hard wood i ever heard, greate thanks to you 👍👍👍
Great video mate, I've cut a lot and I'll be cutting up some more Buloke very soon. I have lots of it as I live in the Buloke Shire in Victoria Australia lol. It is very hard so you have to cut very slowly but it's managable
Why do you need to swear it's good? All your videos are good. Good interesting presentation, not too long not too short and easily understandable. Keep up the good work!
Very useful video on hard wood and soft wood
Thank you
Thanks. That was much more interesting than I thought it would be.
Difference between hard wood and soft wood: one is more noticeable in your pants.
It’s nice to have a Today I found out video when I have a random question that I type in out of curiosity
Great video. Great channel. Well done!
really, really interesting. I can't remember having heard that in my botany lectures at university, back when mushrooms still were plants.
Seriously, not one joke about doing the "Janka" test on your hard wood?
I'm disappointed in you, TH-cam.
Jack X looks like you ummm... "Handled" it.
Jack too mature for u I guess lol
I’m not.
Besides, TH-cam doesn’t make jokes, it just hosts videos and comments from stupid ppl with nothing better to do with their lives then be dirty.
Considering that in some parts of the world "Janka" would be pronounce "Yanka" gives new meaning to testing procedures.
0MindSwept0 ...somebody isn’t a very fun individual...
Simon is so cool. comes across so professional
thanks that was really useful
I have no idea why but this was actually freaking fascinating
Learn something new everyday. I never knew this.
Nice vid!
I'm a carpenter when doing my training we were taught that there is different cell structures to hard and soft woods.
I would think that is true.
As a carpenter, what are your thoughts on rubber wood? Also, would it make a good salad bowl?
Great Video, but I do love all your vids ❤️🇨🇦🥰
Definitely not clickbait
Totally interesting 👍
I love this channel
I had to repeat this atleast five times due to the loud t.v..
But when I finally watched it, understanding it,
I rewatched it five times again from liking the video.
Thanks, this WAS interesting, just like you said it would be! :)
From the Wood Database, regarding Quipo: ..."the purported hardness seems highly questionable, especially in light of the fact that Quipo seems to be very susceptible to rot, and on one USDA test, it was remarked that “the results for quipo may have been influenced by the presence of considerable decay.” Furthermore, when comparing Quipo with Balsa, it has been shown that the two woods are virtually identical in hardness, with the absolute lowest recorded Janka hardness values, in the range of 20-35 lbf (89-156 N), were actually from Balsa, and not Quipo."
Very good and scientific
Can't be a coincidence that I googled the difference between these two things the other day and find this in my feed :)
Love the content. I felt like this clip is 20 mins long hot news.
what about morning wood?.. oh, that would be hardwood...
The seed from morning wood is exposed and not contained in a shell. So softwood
Trivia, thank you.
Yes, the Yanker test IS the the best way to test the hardness of your wood.
This was actually very interesting
that was interesting. thanks.
Angiosperm, gymnosperm, hard wood, soft wood, Xin Wang, Janka (pronounced 'Yank-a'), and I swear I though he said 'the hardest wood is said to come from the Australian 'bloke' (actually said 'buloke')...I have a feeling that this is a scientific topic in colleges with a decent amount of giggles. The comments posted previously to this one supports that theory, it seems.
I've been doing some woodworking projects lately, and been wondering this same thing. Thanks for the information!
Cheers, Simon. That is incidentally a question I’ve always pondered. Up until now, the prospect of Balsa wood being a hardwood made absolutely no sense to me at all!!?? Lol
I always thought that the classification was by how long the wood burned. Hardwoods would typically burn for longer than softwoods. Learned something new.
There is also a substantial difference in the ratio of cellulose to hemi-cellulose(softwoods have very little hemi-cellulose) and notable difference in their respective strengths profile such that soft woods tend to be fibrous and stringy while hardwoods chip and fracture in a more chunky fashion.
So, soft seeds equal hardwood, and hard seeds equal softwood? That totally makes sense...not.
As a luthier, the difference in woods make a world of difference in tone.
Its not 'cue-po' but 'kwee-po'. Minor flaw but as you are so spot on normally I thought I'd mention it.
I've heard hardwood is like a bunch of drinking straws stuck together vs softwood which are fibers. When the tree takes up water, it's straws vs wicks.
4:03 the tree is Quercus Alba (White Oak) not a Hickory.
I can decide what's interesting and what isn't for myself perfectly fine thanks.
Heck, you only see that part of the title after you've clicked the video...
Hi, well done - does growth rate have any affect on hardness - oak trees grow much slower than aspen so oak should be harder?
I can't watch Simon without thinking about his hardwood.
Hey you should do a video about the different burning temperatures of different types of wood it's very interesting topic
Ron Swanson is proud of you.
In the Netherlands a hardwood is classified as wood from a broad-leaved tree and a softwood as a wood from a conifer. So it differs slightly from the definition given in the video. But using the definitions to describe the characteristics of the timber is pointless anyway.
So, if you keep using the Janka test over and over through the years does the wood get harder?
Strangely it was more interesting then it sounded. I would not have guessed the real difference. Also, the Janka Hardness Test is interesting. It is similar to the Brinell Hardness Test and Rockwell Hardness Test for metals and other dense materials.
Smiles when he says naked seed,it looks like he laughed right after that
should plant more of those Australian trees and turn them into sky scrapers.
Swear I just learned!!! Wow based on the seed,,,,,uh who knew
So let me get this straight the way we tell softwood from Hardwood is with the Yanker test? (Does Beavis and Butthead laugh). I feel the same way that's how I test my wood too LOL
Colin Wells nope. Watch the video again.
Another reason to hate humanity's madness.
The softest wood ever tested was not cuipo, it was balsa. The book in which this report was included ("Strength and related properties of Balsa and Quipo woods") had a typo.
Hardwoods, especially the more common nut and fruit bearing tree varieties in northern western cultures, are also generally considered safer and more desirable to use for cooking, grilling, and barbecuing/smoking.
Cheers.
FYI, lbf is "pound-force", it's the imperial equivalent of the Newton as it is a measure of force, not mass. Great content btw
How and why did Janka settle on a steel ball that was .444" (11.28mm) in diameter? Is this a standard ball bearing size? Did he do it to sell a specialized piece of equipment?
He found the repetition of the digit 4 entrancingly mesmerizing.
To get an area of 100 mm^2. Easier to perform stress/strain calculations.
easy to get ball bearing size.
It’s so strange looking at you from years ago. I like your look now :)
Fiber size is also important. Larger fiber sizes make softer woods.
You should have gone into details of the wood itself like amount of lignified tissue, or xylem vs tracheates for conveying water.
what are the characteristics of softwood and hardwood (separately) and how would you draw it? I got this question in my D.T booklet for homework, and cant find anything about it online. I was wondering if maybe you would phrase characteristics differently? Thanks!
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The Australian Ironbark tree is insanely hard and is so dense it will sink in water. It takes a nice polish though.
For the love of everything holy. He looks absolutely outstanding with a beard.
all your videos are interesting.
Hi.
What is the cheapest and strong and and water resistant wood for making barrel?the barrel is for being in sea water
Have you ever wondered why it is called a quarterstaff?
Because the trunk of the tree is quartered before it is turned on the lathe.
I still like my definition best ( bear in mind that I'm from Oz, where there are many plentiful types of wood too hard to easily use ) . . . . ' If it floats it's softwood. ' Try it for yourself.